Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Shelley]

Yes, it's quite nice actually. I used it once.
And I am using vim on Linux platform now.
I am feeling quite easy with it.

Maybe you have noticed the survey I made on http://phparch.cn.
A lot of people just look at the result. I really want people to choose
their option first.
Because that's helpful for future visitors.
Anyway, everybody is free to make his own choice.


On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Carlos Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Thodoris schrieb:
>
>>
>> O/H It flance ??:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What do you think is the best php editor for linux.
>>>
>>> I'm using the Debian distribution.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I surprisingly use PSPad editor which is quite neat solution and support
>> some basic regexps.
>>
>> http://www.pspad.com/
>>
>> I think I'll probably move to vim since nothing seems more powerful but
>> yet so nerdish.
>>
>> It was nice talking for this all boring, again-and-again issue because I
>> got some very good ideas and I will totally try eclipse.
>>
>>  Hi,
> PHPed is nice
>
> Regards
>
> Carlos
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Björn Bartels]

hello...

i am using kde's 'quanta+' (os-x & opensuse).
it comes with most linux/kde distributions and
has an acceptable set of code-editing features (IMO ;) )


cheers
bb

Am 14.08.2008 um 19:05 schrieb It flance:


Hi,

What do you think is the best php editor for linux.

I'm using the Debian distribution.

Thanks





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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Carlos Medina]

Thodoris schrieb:


O/H It flance ??:

Hi,

What do you think is the best php editor for linux.

I'm using the Debian distribution.

Thanks


 

  
I surprisingly use PSPad editor which is quite neat solution and support 
some basic regexps.


http://www.pspad.com/

I think I'll probably move to vim since nothing seems more powerful but 
yet so nerdish.


It was nice talking for this all boring, again-and-again issue because I 
got some very good ideas and I will totally try eclipse.



Hi,
PHPed is nice

Regards

Carlos

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Thodoris]

O/H It flance ??:

Hi,

What do you think is the best php editor for linux.

I'm using the Debian distribution.

Thanks


  



  
I surprisingly use PSPad editor which is quite neat solution and support 
some basic regexps.


http://www.pspad.com/

I think I'll probably move to vim since nothing seems more powerful but 
yet so nerdish.


It was nice talking for this all boring, again-and-again issue because I 
got some very good ideas and I will totally try eclipse.


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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Mario Guenterberg]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 07:32:13PM -0400, Eric Butera wrote:
> What sort of plugins do you use with vim?  For a while I was
> interested with it after seeing some presentations on it.  I never
> could figure out how to get it to do code completion based on methods
> of a class, it sort of jumbled all of them from a project together.  I
> also felt like it was a bit clunky jumping between files.  Using MVC
> means at least 3 files per uri so that got to be very tedious for me
> jumping between so many different files.  Any tips there?
> 
> One of my favorite parts of pdt is the fact that I can code complete
> any class in my current project or anything that I specify in my
> include path.  Also you can jump to the exact class/method by control
> clicking on it too which is a huge time saver.  Is there anything like
> this?

Hi

I use vim + some plugins and a custom configuration. It works fine
in cli and as vim-gtk under debian/ubuntu.

The Plugins are NERDTree, PDV and debugger. This and a little own
vimrc makes we wonder how powerfull vim is.

The vim installation is a standard apt-get install way installation.

You can open mutliple files with NERDTree if you use the the tab-key. 
It is easy to handle more than 3 files recently, but a bigger 
resolution on your desktop is needed ;-)

So i can coding some lines or files, press CTRL-L for syntax
checking and have a wonderfull customizable syntax highlightning.

The autocomplete function works also very well. I have downloaded
the php5 funclist from rasmus and extend it if needed. Variables and
contants defined in the file that i edit are also autocompleted.

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Lester Caine]

Boyd, Todd M. wrote:


i used to use php-eclipse + subclipse all the time; i never had to 'install 
from source' or had issues installing subclipse on top of php-eclipse...
---
Ahh... but you're in Linux. I was referring to the Windows distribution of 
Eclipse. It's Java, so I guess it wouldn't matter... but when I installed 
PHPEclipse on top of Eclipse, it broke. Big-time.


Depends on the Linux distribution.
I have matching copies of phpeclipse on my Windows and Mandriva Linux boxes. 
Mandriva had it in the distribution and I then updated via Eclipse without a 
problem.
It's nice to have a development environment that I don't have to think which 
machine I'm on - until it comes to a file path.


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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Ross McKay]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:46:05 -0400, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

>I use geany and Quantum

+2 for geany (SWMBO uses it too). It's a good general-purpose text
editor and simplified IDE. Build it from SVN, as it has been moving
fairly quickly and distro packages often haven't kept up.
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Michael S. Dunsavage]

On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 10:05 -0700, It flance wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What do you think is the best php editor for linux.
> 
> I'm using the Debian distribution.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 

I use geany and Quantum
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Eric Butera]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i used to use php-eclipse + subclipse all the time; i never had to 'install
> from source' or had issues installing subclipse on top of php-eclipse...
>
> just my 2c,
>
> vim + cli + protoeditor(as needed)
>
> -nathan
>

What sort of plugins do you use with vim?  For a while I was
interested with it after seeing some presentations on it.  I never
could figure out how to get it to do code completion based on methods
of a class, it sort of jumbled all of them from a project together.  I
also felt like it was a bit clunky jumping between files.  Using MVC
means at least 3 files per uri so that got to be very tedious for me
jumping between so many different files.  Any tips there?

One of my favorite parts of pdt is the fact that I can code complete
any class in my current project or anything that I specify in my
include path.  Also you can jump to the exact class/method by control
clicking on it too which is a huge time saver.  Is there anything like
this?

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RE: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Boyd, Todd M.]

From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:00 PM
To: Boyd, Todd M.
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Boyd, Todd M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: Micah Gersten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux
>
> I use Eclipse with PHPEclipse.  I think you have to install from
source
> to get PHPEclipse to work right.
---8<--- snip

> It flance wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > What do you think is the best php editor for linux.
> >
> > I'm using the Debian distribution.
> Yep, PHPEclipse will be all sorts of fudged if you add it in
> after-the-fact. I learned that the hard way. :(

i used to use php-eclipse + subclipse all the time; i never had to 'install 
from source' or had issues installing subclipse on top of php-eclipse...

just my 2c,

vim + cli + protoeditor(as needed)

---

Ahh... but you're in Linux. I was referring to the Windows distribution of 
Eclipse. It's Java, so I guess it wouldn't matter... but when I installed 
PHPEclipse on top of Eclipse, it broke. Big-time.


Todd Boyd
Web Programmer

Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Nathan Nobbe]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Boyd, Todd M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Micah Gersten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:20 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux
> >
> > I use Eclipse with PHPEclipse.  I think you have to install from
> source
> > to get PHPEclipse to work right.
>
> ---8<--- snip
>
> > It flance wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > What do you think is the best php editor for linux.
> > >
> > > I'm using the Debian distribution.
>
> Yep, PHPEclipse will be all sorts of fudged if you add it in
> after-the-fact. I learned that the hard way. :(


i used to use php-eclipse + subclipse all the time; i never had to 'install
from source' or had issues installing subclipse on top of php-eclipse...

just my 2c,

vim + cli + protoeditor(as needed)

-nathan

RE: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Boyd, Todd M.]

> -Original Message-
> From: Micah Gersten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux
> 
> I use Eclipse with PHPEclipse.  I think you have to install from
source
> to get PHPEclipse to work right.

---8<--- snip

> It flance wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > What do you think is the best php editor for linux.
> >
> > I'm using the Debian distribution.

Yep, PHPEclipse will be all sorts of fudged if you add it in
after-the-fact. I learned that the hard way. :(


Todd Boyd
Web Programmer




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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Eric Butera]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:05 PM, It flance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What do you think is the best php editor for linux.
>
> I'm using the Debian distribution.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Eclipse with PDT.

http://www.zend.com/en/community/pdt#all

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Micah Gersten]

I use Eclipse with PHPEclipse.  I think you have to install from source
to get PHPEclipse to work right.

Thank you,
Micah Gersten
onShore Networks
Internal Developer
http://www.onshore.com



It flance wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What do you think is the best php editor for linux.
>
> I'm using the Debian distribution.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>   
>
>
>   

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor for linux

[Dan Joseph]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:05 PM, It flance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What do you think is the best php editor for linux.
>
> I'm using the Debian distribution.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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You should search the archives, there are dozens of discussions on this one.

I think you'll find a lot of people recommend the Zend IDE, I personally use
PhpED, both are good.  Kate is pretty good if you don't want to buy anything
(apt-get install kate -- if its not there...)

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Cem Kayali]

You should give a chance to Quanta Plus on Linux/BSd and Mr. Soysal's free
edition of PhpEd, if you can find it.

Regards



Frank Lopes wrote:
> 
> Being very new to PHP (empahsis on VERY...), I wonder what most of you use 
> to develop in PHP?
> 
> I have experimented with DreamWeaver, UltraEdit, phoDesigner, Eclipse etc.
> 
> What would you recommend that I use?
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Børge Holen]

On Sunday 11 November 2007 22:31:29 Jochem Maas wrote:
> Børge Holen wrote:
> > On Sunday 11 November 2007 20:36:39 Jochem Maas wrote:
> >> Jay Blanchard wrote:
> >>> [snip]
> >>> Being very new to PHP (empahsis on VERY...), I wonder what most of you
> >>> use
> >>> to develop in PHP?
> >>> [/snip]
> >>>
> >>> Search the archives, there was a discussion on IDE's just last week.
> >>
> >> and pretty much every week before that :-)
> >>
> >> when beginning your most valuable tool is not the IDE but ...
> >> http://php.net/ as in
> >> http://php.net/
> >>
> >> and when your really stuck, a well thought out question to this list
> >> will usually result in "something helpful"[tm].
> >
> > WHAT... whenever did that happen?!!?
>
> no sure about the well thought out question.
> with regard to "something helpful" you have to remember it's something
> akin to microsoft's "innovative software and fair market practices"

oh... well that makes it ok =D



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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Jochem Maas]

Børge Holen wrote:
> On Sunday 11 November 2007 20:36:39 Jochem Maas wrote:
>> Jay Blanchard wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>> Being very new to PHP (empahsis on VERY...), I wonder what most of you
>>> use
>>> to develop in PHP?
>>> [/snip]
>>>
>>> Search the archives, there was a discussion on IDE's just last week.
>> and pretty much every week before that :-)
>>
>> when beginning your most valuable tool is not the IDE but ...
>> http://php.net/ as in
>> http://php.net/
>>
>> and when your really stuck, a well thought out question to this list
>> will usually result in "something helpful"[tm].
> 
> WHAT... whenever did that happen?!!?

no sure about the well thought out question.
with regard to "something helpful" you have to remember it's something
akin to microsoft's "innovative software and fair market practices"


> 
> 
> 

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Brendon Van Heyzen]

Combo of Zend neon and vim (macvim).
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On Nov 11, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Frank Lopes wrote:

Being very new to PHP (empahsis on VERY...), I wonder what most of  
you use to develop in PHP?


I have experimented with DreamWeaver, UltraEdit, phoDesigner,  
Eclipse etc.


What would you recommend that I use?

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Børge Holen]

On Sunday 11 November 2007 20:36:39 Jochem Maas wrote:
> Jay Blanchard wrote:
> > [snip]
> > Being very new to PHP (empahsis on VERY...), I wonder what most of you
> > use
> > to develop in PHP?
> > [/snip]
> >
> > Search the archives, there was a discussion on IDE's just last week.
>
> and pretty much every week before that :-)
>
> when beginning your most valuable tool is not the IDE but ...
> http://php.net/ as in
> http://php.net/
>
> and when your really stuck, a well thought out question to this list
> will usually result in "something helpful"[tm].

WHAT... whenever did that happen?!!?



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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Jochem Maas]

Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> Being very new to PHP (empahsis on VERY...), I wonder what most of you
> use 
> to develop in PHP?
> [/snip]
> 
> Search the archives, there was a discussion on IDE's just last week.

and pretty much every week before that :-)

when beginning your most valuable tool is not the IDE but ... http://php.net/
as in http://php.net/

and when your really stuck, a well thought out question to this list
will usually result in "something helpful"[tm].

> 

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Daniel Brown]

On Nov 11, 2007 11:23 AM, Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank Lopes wrote:
>
> > Being very new to PHP (empahsis on VERY...), I wonder what most of you
> > use to develop in PHP?
>
> Personally I use vi or kate.

Specifically, ViM (Vi iMproved) for me.  It's rare that I do much
with the OS GUI I'm much more comfortable in a command-line
environment.

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Per Jessen]

Frank Lopes wrote:

> Being very new to PHP (empahsis on VERY...), I wonder what most of you
> use to develop in PHP?

Personally I use vi or kate. 


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RE: [PHP] PHP editor

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
Being very new to PHP (empahsis on VERY...), I wonder what most of you
use 
to develop in PHP?
[/snip]

Search the archives, there was a discussion on IDE's just last week.

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Timothy Murphy]

On Fri 13 Apr 2007, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> Just showing my ignorance, probably,
> but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?
>
> Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts,
> or an editor written in PHP?
> [/snip]
>
> Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny

I wasn't trying to be funny -
I'm not very knowledgeable about PHP,
but it doesn't seem to me its syntax is sufficiently complicated
to warrant using a special editor.

I'm interested (slightly) in any editors written in PHP,
as I use WordPress (WP), and am not particularly enamoured
of any of the WP editors I have seen.


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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Richard Lynch]

On Fri, April 13, 2007 10:11 am, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Just showing my ignorance, probably,
> but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?
>
> Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts,

Usually means this, and that's been answered a few zillion times.

> or an editor written in PHP?

Seldom means this, but even so, you're pretty much looking at PHP-GTK,
or you're not looking at a PHP question...

Though I guess with enough effort, one could write something not
unlike 'vi' in PHP CLI for a specific OS with the right control codes
to re-draw the screen...  [shudder]

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RE: [PHP] PHP editor

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> -Message d'origine-
> De : Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Envoyé : vendredi 13 avril 2007 18:19
> À : 'Philip Thompson'; 'php General List'
> Objet : RE: [PHP] PHP editor
> 
>  
> 
> > -Message d'origine-
> > De : Philip Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Envoyé : vendredi 13 avril 2007 17:35
> > À : php General List
> > Objet : Re: [PHP] PHP editor
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> > 
> > > [snip]
> > > Just showing my ignorance, probably,
> > > but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?
> > >
> > > Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts, or an 
> > editor written 
> > > in PHP?
> > > [/snip]
> > >
> > > Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny
> > 
> > 
> > LOL! I don't know why this was so funny, but I laughed at 
> > Jay's comment (I can just see the light bulb turn on). 
> > Nonetheless, this "ignorant" user brings up a thought - are 
> > there any editors written in PHP?
> 
 0)) {
$file_path = '/tmp/' . $_POST['filename'];
if(!file_put_contents('/tmp/' .
$_POST['filename'],$_POST['php_editor'])) {
$content .= 'Error writing to ' . $file_path . '';
}
$file_content = $_POST['php_editor'];
} elseif (strlen($_POST['php_editor'] == 0)) {
if (file_exists($filename)) {
$file_content = file_get_contents($filename);
} else {
$content .= 'Error reading from ' . $file_path .
'';
}
}
}
$content .= '';
$content .= 'Filename:';
$content .= 'PHP:$file_content';
$content .= '';
$content .= '';
echo $content;
?>

Sorry, i couldn't leave that up.. I must redeem myself..

:D

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RE: [PHP] PHP editor

[Tim]

 

> -Message d'origine-
> De : Philip Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Envoyé : vendredi 13 avril 2007 17:35
> À : php General List
> Objet : Re: [PHP] PHP editor
> 
> On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> 
> > [snip]
> > Just showing my ignorance, probably,
> > but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?
> >
> > Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts, or an 
> editor written 
> > in PHP?
> > [/snip]
> >
> > Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny
> 
> 
> LOL! I don't know why this was so funny, but I laughed at 
> Jay's comment (I can just see the light bulb turn on). 
> Nonetheless, this "ignorant" user brings up a thought - are 
> there any editors written in PHP?

 0) {
  $file_path = '/tmp/' . $_POST['filename'];
  if(!file_put_contents('/tmp/' . $_POST['filename'],$_POST['php_editor']) {
$content .= 'Error writing to '/tmp/' .
  }
  $file_content = $_POST['php_editor'];
}
If (isset($_POST['filename'] && strlen($_POST['php_editor'] == 0) {
 $file_path = '/tmp/' . $_POST['filename'];
 if (file_exists($filename)) {
   $file_content = file_get_contents($filename);
 }
}
$content .= '';
$content .= 'Filename:';
$content .= 'PHP:$file_content';
$content .= '';
$content .= '';
?>

There is now :P

Regards,

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RE: [PHP] PHP editor

[Buesching, Logan J]

Komodo, written in python and XUL (yes, the firefox extention engine).

-Original Message-
From: Jarrel Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:08 PM
To: Tijnema !
Cc: M. Sokolewicz; Philip Thompson; php General List
Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP editor

No, C is not a scripting language.  There probably are some editors
written in python though...which is a scripting language.

On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 4/13/07, M.Sokolewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Philip Thompson wrote:
> > > On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> > >
> > >> [snip]
> > >> Just showing my ignorance, probably, but what exactly is meant by

> > >> a "PHP editor"?
> > >>
> > >> Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts, or an editor 
> > >> written in PHP?
> > >> [/snip]
> > >>
> > >> Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL! I don't know why this was so funny, but I laughed at Jay's
> comment
> > > (I can just see the light bulb turn on). Nonetheless, this
"ignorant"
> > > user brings up a thought - are there any editors written in PHP?
> > >
> > > ~Philip
> > I sure hope not. Editors should never be written in 
> > scripting-languages in my opinion.
> >
> > - tul
>
>
> Uhm, C is a scripting language too right?
>
> Most editors are written in C :)
>
> Tijnema
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Jarrel Cobb]

No, C is not a scripting language.  There probably are some editors written
in python though...which is a scripting language.

On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 4/13/07, M.Sokolewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Philip Thompson wrote:
> > On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> >
> >> [snip]
> >> Just showing my ignorance, probably,
> >> but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?
> >>
> >> Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts,
> >> or an editor written in PHP?
> >> [/snip]
> >>
> >> Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny
> >
> >
> > LOL! I don't know why this was so funny, but I laughed at Jay's
comment
> > (I can just see the light bulb turn on). Nonetheless, this "ignorant"
> > user brings up a thought - are there any editors written in PHP?
> >
> > ~Philip
> I sure hope not. Editors should never be written in scripting-languages
> in my opinion.
>
> - tul


Uhm, C is a scripting language too right?

Most editors are written in C :)

Tijnema

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Tijnema !]

On 4/13/07, M.Sokolewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Philip Thompson wrote:
> On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
>
>> [snip]
>> Just showing my ignorance, probably,
>> but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?
>>
>> Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts,
>> or an editor written in PHP?
>> [/snip]
>>
>> Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny
>
>
> LOL! I don't know why this was so funny, but I laughed at Jay's comment
> (I can just see the light bulb turn on). Nonetheless, this "ignorant"
> user brings up a thought - are there any editors written in PHP?
>
> ~Philip
I sure hope not. Editors should never be written in scripting-languages
in my opinion.

- tul



Uhm, C is a scripting language too right?

Most editors are written in C :)

Tijnema

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Stut]

M.Sokolewicz wrote:

Philip Thompson wrote:

On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:


[snip]
Just showing my ignorance, probably,
but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?

Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts,
or an editor written in PHP?
[/snip]

Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny



LOL! I don't know why this was so funny, but I laughed at Jay's 
comment (I can just see the light bulb turn on). Nonetheless, this 
"ignorant" user brings up a thought - are there any editors written in 
PHP?


~Philip
I sure hope not. Editors should never be written in scripting-languages 
in my opinion.


So you have an issue with every web-based CMS on the planet? IMHO it 
doesn't matter what language/tool/technology is used to write software, 
as long as it does the job and meets customer requirements.


-Stut

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[M.Sokolewicz]

Philip Thompson wrote:

On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:


[snip]
Just showing my ignorance, probably,
but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?

Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts,
or an editor written in PHP?
[/snip]

Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny



LOL! I don't know why this was so funny, but I laughed at Jay's comment 
(I can just see the light bulb turn on). Nonetheless, this "ignorant" 
user brings up a thought - are there any editors written in PHP?


~Philip
I sure hope not. Editors should never be written in scripting-languages 
in my opinion.


- tul

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Philip Thompson]

On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:


[snip]
Just showing my ignorance, probably,
but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?

Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts,
or an editor written in PHP?
[/snip]

Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny



LOL! I don't know why this was so funny, but I laughed at Jay's  
comment (I can just see the light bulb turn on). Nonetheless, this  
"ignorant" user brings up a thought - are there any editors written  
in PHP?


~Philip

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RE: [PHP] PHP editor

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
Just showing my ignorance, probably,
but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?

Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts,
or an editor written in PHP?
[/snip]

Something to edit PHP with...unless you're trying to be funny 

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Timothy Murphy]

Just showing my ignorance, probably,
but what exactly is meant by a "PHP editor"?

Does it mean an editor for editing PHP scripts,
or an editor written in PHP?

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[David Robley]

Robert Cummings wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 10:30 -0500, Philip Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Obviously some people think this is NOT "in the realm of php."
>> Nonetheless, I think it's a relevant question and others have
>> answered it well.
> 
> Relevant sure... but the answers are in the frickin' archives several
> times over.
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob.

s/several/several thousand/


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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Tijnema !]

For win i'm using Macromedia Dreamwaver, it's not free, but it has
great interface with servers not on your own PC, i'm using several
different servers, and i have them all listed in Dreamwaver. I click
on a file on one of the servers, and it loads, and when i press save,
it saves directly to the server (even if the server isn't in the LAN,
it can save through FTP automatically).

For linux i prefer Kdevelop :), nice free and buitlin with KDE, which
a lot of distributions use...

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Susana Carrasco]

For Win, I use either Notepad++ or PHP Designer (www.mpsoftware.org). For
Linux I use Joe.

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Zoltán Németh]

I use jEdit
http://www.jedit.org/

and I like it ;)
it's not specifically for php but for any kind of programming, and has
nice plugins for several programming languages you might edit with it

greets
Zoltán Németh

2007. 04. 11, szerda keltezéssel 10.12-kor Jonathan Kahan ezt írta:
> Hi all,
> 
> I beleive this is in the realm of php (I have learned my lesson from last 
> time). Does anyone have recomendation for any free (I.E. permanently free 
> not 30 day trial) of a good php editor. The ones i am seeing all only allow 
> usage for a limited time.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Jonathan Kahan
> 
> Systems Developer
> Estrin Technologies, inc.
> 1375 Broadway, 3rd Floor, New York, NY, 10018
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web: http://www.estrintech.com 
> 

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Jochem Maas]

Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 10:30 -0500, Philip Thompson wrote:
>> Obviously some people think this is NOT "in the realm of php."  
>> Nonetheless, I think it's a relevant question and others have  
>> answered it well.
> 
> Relevant sure... but the answers are in the frickin' archives several
> times over.

ditto. (hey let's frak not frick - as in 'do me one of those blond cylon 
chicks' ;-)

> 
> Cheers,
> Rob.

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[afan]

> On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Jochem Maas wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Kahan wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I beleive this is in the realm of php (I have learned my lesson from
>>> last time). Does anyone have recomendation for any free (I.E.
>>> permanently free not 30 day trial) of a good php editor. The ones
>>> i am
>>> seeing all only allow usage for a limited time.
>>
>> STFA, STFW, notepad, textpad, whateverpad.
>>
>> look what I find after googling for 5 seconds:
>>  http://www.php-editors.com/review/
>>
>> *you* have to decide if you like an editor, nobody else can do it
>> for you.
>>
>> this topic comes almost weekly and it's rather boring - go search
>> and find *lots* of totally abitrary, rose-tinted opinions about what
>> the best freaking editor is.
>
> Obviously some people think this is NOT "in the realm of php."
> Nonetheless, I think it's a relevant question and others have
> answered it well. It's up to you to decide which suits you best...
> and Google, can probably help you with that.
>
> For Mac (my main platform), I use TextMate, but it's not free.
> For PC, I use Crimson Editor, and it is free.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> ~Philip
>
>
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Jonathan Kahan
>>> 
>>> Systems Developer
>>> Estrin Technologies, inc.
>>> 1375 Broadway, 3rd Floor, New York, NY, 10018
>>> 
>>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Web: http://www.estrintech.com
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On both Win and Linux I use Zend Studio. Not free but it's worth every cent.
Before I used HomeSite. Great tool too.
If you use Linux Quanta+ is great tool too.
Download EVERY editor you think and try it. What I like doesn't mean it's
ok with you. Try even not free editors - it's worth testing, and you will
find what do you really want from an editor.

-afan

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Robert Cummings]

On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 10:30 -0500, Philip Thompson wrote:
>
> Obviously some people think this is NOT "in the realm of php."  
> Nonetheless, I think it's a relevant question and others have  
> answered it well.

Relevant sure... but the answers are in the frickin' archives several
times over.

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Philip Thompson]

On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Jochem Maas wrote:


Jonathan Kahan wrote:

Hi all,

I beleive this is in the realm of php (I have learned my lesson from
last time). Does anyone have recomendation for any free (I.E.
permanently free not 30 day trial) of a good php editor. The ones  
i am

seeing all only allow usage for a limited time.


STFA, STFW, notepad, textpad, whateverpad.

look what I find after googling for 5 seconds:
http://www.php-editors.com/review/

*you* have to decide if you like an editor, nobody else can do it  
for you.


this topic comes almost weekly and it's rather boring - go search
and find *lots* of totally abitrary, rose-tinted opinions about what
the best freaking editor is.


Obviously some people think this is NOT "in the realm of php."  
Nonetheless, I think it's a relevant question and others have  
answered it well. It's up to you to decide which suits you best...  
and Google, can probably help you with that.


For Mac (my main platform), I use TextMate, but it's not free.
For PC, I use Crimson Editor, and it is free.

Hope that helps.

~Philip



Kind Regards
Jonathan Kahan

Systems Developer
Estrin Technologies, inc.
1375 Broadway, 3rd Floor, New York, NY, 10018

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Robert Cummings]

On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 10:12 -0400, Jonathan Kahan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I beleive this is in the realm of php (I have learned my lesson from last 
> time). Does anyone have recomendation for any free (I.E. permanently free 
> not 30 day trial) of a good php editor. The ones i am seeing all only allow 
> usage for a limited time.

You should really search the archives... but I personally recommend:

joe ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/joe-editor/ )

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Jochem Maas]

Jonathan Kahan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I beleive this is in the realm of php (I have learned my lesson from
> last time). Does anyone have recomendation for any free (I.E.
> permanently free not 30 day trial) of a good php editor. The ones i am
> seeing all only allow usage for a limited time.

STFA, STFW, notepad, textpad, whateverpad.

look what I find after googling for 5 seconds:
http://www.php-editors.com/review/

*you* have to decide if you like an editor, nobody else can do it for you.

this topic comes almost weekly and it's rather boring - go search
and find *lots* of totally abitrary, rose-tinted opinions about what
the best freaking editor is.

> 
> Kind Regards
> Jonathan Kahan
> 
> Systems Developer
> Estrin Technologies, inc.
> 1375 Broadway, 3rd Floor, New York, NY, 10018
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web: http://www.estrintech.com

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[jgodish]

Check Out Easy Eclipse

http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/home/

Quoting Jonathan Kahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi all,
>
> I beleive this is in the realm of php (I have learned my lesson from last
> time). Does anyone have recomendation for any free (I.E. permanently free
> not 30 day trial) of a good php editor. The ones i am seeing all only allow
> usage for a limited time.
>
> Kind Regards
> Jonathan Kahan
> 
> Systems Developer
> Estrin Technologies, inc.
> 1375 Broadway, 3rd Floor, New York, NY, 10018
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web: http://www.estrintech.com
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RE: [PHP] PHP editor

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
I beleive this is in the realm of php (I have learned my lesson from
last 
time). Does anyone have recomendation for any free (I.E. permanently
free 
not 30 day trial) of a good php editor. The ones i am seeing all only
allow 
usage for a limited time.
[/snip]

Eclipse
Notepad 2 

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor suggestion?

[Merlin]

Robert Cummings schrieb:
On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 12:26, Merlin wrote:
Hi there,
I am now using Homesite 4.5.x  since a few years since I found it the 
most relieble editor arround.

Now I would like to have a look around to see if there are better 
solutions nowadays.

I am looking for a relieable, stable and quick PHP/HTML editor.
Can anybody suggest a good one? I tried phpdesigner, but it seems to 
have lots of bugs and is quite slow.

Thank you for any suggestions,
Merlin

Let me recommend something far better: A SEARCH ENGINE
If that should fail: A BRAIN
At the very least: RTFA
This topic spams the list every week or two. It was just on last week.
At least have a little self respect and try to find an answer for
yourself before posting the same old off topic crap.
Cheers,
Rob. 
It seems like you did have a very bad day. Maybe you should consider not 
to spoil the good spirit that this nice php list offers. There are lots 
of great people on here. To bad that such answers also find its way to 
the board.

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor suggestion?

[The Disguised Jedi]

jEdit is one of the bestdownloadable PHP parser to check for
errors, recognizes syntax perfectly, and is free.

www.jedit.org

I LOVE IT!


On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:41:55 -0800, Christopher Fulton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [quote]
> > I am looking for a relieable, stable and quick PHP/HTML editor.
> >
> > Can anybody suggest a good one? I tried phpdesigner, but it seems to
> > have lots of bugs and is quite slow.
> > 
> [/quote]
> 
> Just a suggestionA mailing list may not be the best place to find
> the answer for this question.  A person's choice in an editor is going
> to be different depending on who you talk to.  One person may love vi,
> whereas another person may love Dreamweaver.  If you read the
> archives, you'll see several responses going many different ways as to
> what editor is the best.  My suggestion would be to decide what are
> the most important things you want in an editor (ie...syntax
> highlighting, speed, a built in code debugger, cross platform
> compatibility, etc...).  Then, once you have decided what is
> "essential" for you, do a google search for editors with those things.
>  Try a few out, and decide what works best for you.
> 
> Happy Searching,
> Chris
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor suggestion?

[Christopher Fulton]

[quote]
> I am looking for a relieable, stable and quick PHP/HTML editor.
> 
> Can anybody suggest a good one? I tried phpdesigner, but it seems to
> have lots of bugs and is quite slow.
> 
[/quote]

Just a suggestionA mailing list may not be the best place to find
the answer for this question.  A person's choice in an editor is going
to be different depending on who you talk to.  One person may love vi,
whereas another person may love Dreamweaver.  If you read the
archives, you'll see several responses going many different ways as to
what editor is the best.  My suggestion would be to decide what are
the most important things you want in an editor (ie...syntax
highlighting, speed, a built in code debugger, cross platform
compatibility, etc...).  Then, once you have decided what is
"essential" for you, do a google search for editors with those things.
 Try a few out, and decide what works best for you.

Happy Searching, 
Chris  

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor suggestion?

[Robert Cummings]

On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 12:26, Merlin wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I am now using Homesite 4.5.x  since a few years since I found it the 
> most relieble editor arround.
> 
> Now I would like to have a look around to see if there are better 
> solutions nowadays.
> 
> I am looking for a relieable, stable and quick PHP/HTML editor.
> 
> Can anybody suggest a good one? I tried phpdesigner, but it seems to 
> have lots of bugs and is quite slow.
> 
> Thank you for any suggestions,
> 
> Merlin

Let me recommend something far better: A SEARCH ENGINE

If that should fail: A BRAIN

At the very least: RTFA

This topic spams the list every week or two. It was just on last week.
At least have a little self respect and try to find an answer for
yourself before posting the same old off topic crap.

Cheers,
Rob. 
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Re: [PHP] PHP editor suggestion?

[trobi]

Merlin  wrote / napísal (a):
Hi there,
I am now using Homesite 4.5.x  since a few years since I found it the 
most relieble editor arround.

Now I would like to have a look around to see if there are better 
solutions nowadays.

I am looking for a relieable, stable and quick PHP/HTML editor.
Can anybody suggest a good one? I tried phpdesigner, but it seems to 
have lots of bugs and is quite slow.

Thank you for any suggestions,
Merlin
phpeclipse?
trobi
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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Daniel Lahey]

I use Dreamweaver and I absolutely love it.  It's a bit pricey, though. 
 In the latest newsletter from Apple Developer Connection, there is a 
notice about skEdit, which is only $20.  It looks pretty nice, though I 
haven't tried it.  Eclipse is very good, too, and it's free (phpEclipse 
is an extension for Eclipse).  Not terribly easy to get set up, though. 
 At least, I found it to be so.  Here's the URL for skEdit:  
http://www.skti.org/skEdit.php

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[M Saleh EG]

Zend Especialy with Zend 4.0 beta and Zend platform wow...
that's all i'm gonna say. I had day on Zend 3.5 where I used to see
.Net programmers openning Visual Studio.net and playing with their DB
on their left hand panels on the same IDE and I used to say
man..god help me with mySQLCC and Query Browser now with Zend
4.0 (beta) i'm experiencing the magic of having all the stuff
together
Profiling, Debugin, Code Completion and Syntax highliting, mn it's
just what I needed to have. Abit expensive but realy worth it! I
wouldnt like programming on any programming language if I had a poor
IDE or Editor n maybe that's me.

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Benjamin Edwards]

Or you could get phpeclipse for free which is a php IDE.  It all depends on 
weather you are a web designer or a php developer.  If you are both you will 
still want an IDE (Integrated Development Enviroment) and Probably a debugger 
(see my previous email about phped).  If you can aford to throw your money 
around why dont you get Zend Studio and Dreamwever, or I can send you my paypal 
details...  

>>> David Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/14/05 01:53pm >>>
I've been using Dreamweaver (currently MX) since I started writing PHP 
and I would defintiely recommend it if you can get hold of it.

You can download a trial from
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William Stokes wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
>php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?
>
>Thanks
>-Will
>
>  
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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Jochem Maas]

Greg Donald wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:47:14 +0100, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
in addition there is the xdebug extension by Derick Rethans its at
version 2 but I might suggest starting with 1.3 as its alot simpler to
use than 2 (then again if you have experience of things like
valgrind/dbg on linux you should have little problems).

I just don't see the need.  PHP explodes right on the screen for me. 
I can usually find and fix an error in a few seconds of seeing it in
my browser or in my terminal.  Lines numbers always accompany the
error messages, and you can even go the extra mile and link the error
messages back into the PHP manual for faster lookups when required.
actually I agree with you when it come to bug hunting/fixing. especially 
with PHP5 and the nice stacktraces you get as part of an Exception.

but (there always a 'but' hey!)...
where I found xdebug to be very handy is in code profiling. - it helped 
me shave 30% (time) per request in a (way too!) generic data editing 
framework I wrote with a friend of mine. (we run it on a slow test 
server and some of the _really_ heavy pages were taking 10-15 seconds to 
display - 40,000 calls to strtolower()!!! for instance - and that wasn't 
even the 'bad' part).

thats also the reason I mentioned going for xdebug1.3x - it lets you 
basically dump different kinds of profiling info onto the screen in HTML 
format (or into a file for later viewing) where as xdebug 2.x requires 
using something like cachegrind to analyse the data - which is little 
over my head to just setup and go (i.e. too much effort to figure it out 
right now :-).

I haven't even look at the actually debugger functionality of xdebug!
so I reckon its overkill for most people - but nice to know its there if 
you ever need it.

Granted if you have a long running PHP app that's acting funky then
you might want to analyze it in more depth.. but at that point you
gotta ask yourself should you even be using PHP for the task at hand? 
Could this task or even part of the task be better handled better with
another language?


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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Rick Fletcher]

I had been using Zend Studio, but I've just about made the switch to 
Eclipse with the TruStudio PHP plugin.

Eclipse: http://www.eclipse.org
TruStudio: http://www.xored.com/trustudio/
Mostly running it in Linux (Fedora Core 3), but I've used that 
combination in Windows and OSX, too.

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Jochem Maas]

Greg Donald wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:11:05 +, Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is there a Debugger for PHP?

php -l filename.php for basic syntax check.
If you need more than that you can turn of full error reporting and
view the errors directly on the screen:
error_reporting( E_ALL );
ini_set( 'display_errors', 1 );
But later when you go to a production environment I'd go with:
error_reporting( E_ERROR | E_WARNING | E_PARSE );
ini_set( 'display_errors', 0 );
ini_set( 'log_errors', 1 );

in addition there is the xdebug extension by Derick Rethans its at 
version 2 but I might suggest starting with 1.3 as its alot simpler to 
use than 2 (then again if you have experience of things like 
valgrind/dbg on linux you should have little problems).

obviously you need to be able to compile the extension on/for you server 
(or have someone do it for you) which may not be possible for you (e.g. 
because its sharedhosting)

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Greg Donald]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:47:14 +0100, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in addition there is the xdebug extension by Derick Rethans its at
> version 2 but I might suggest starting with 1.3 as its alot simpler to
> use than 2 (then again if you have experience of things like
> valgrind/dbg on linux you should have little problems).

I just don't see the need.  PHP explodes right on the screen for me. 
I can usually find and fix an error in a few seconds of seeing it in
my browser or in my terminal.  Lines numbers always accompany the
error messages, and you can even go the extra mile and link the error
messages back into the PHP manual for faster lookups when required.

Granted if you have a long running PHP app that's acting funky then
you might want to analyze it in more depth.. but at that point you
gotta ask yourself should you even be using PHP for the task at hand? 
Could this task or even part of the task be better handled better with
another language?


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Re: [PHP] php editor

[David Green]

I've been using Dreamweaver (currently MX) since I started writing PHP 
and I would defintiely recommend it if you can get hold of it.

You can download a trial from
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=dreamweaver

William Stokes wrote:
Hello,
I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?
Thanks
-Will
 

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[eoghan]

Since I do Java, Python etc. on OSX/windows/Linux, I'm using Eclipse 
with the PHPEclipse (PHPEclipse.de), I'm just starting PHP, but I'm 
pretty happy with it so far. One thing I am wondering about is the 
situation which Debugging in PHP4 / PHP5. Is there a Debugger for PHP?

http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/downloads.php
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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Greg Donald]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:37:24 -0800 (PST), welly limston
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i'm usually use Dreamweaver to edit php code
> and debug in it
> it's very help ones us
> why don't u try

Why don't you mail me $399 and I will.  :)


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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Bostjan Skufca @ domenca.com]

1. Does anybody know an editor that supports Smarty tags natively or via some 
sort of custom extension/configuration?

2. Does anybody use Scite (for Un*x) or SciteFlash (for Windows)? I prefer 
it's clean and lightweight interface (once properly configured)...


Regards,
Bostjan


On Thursday 13 January 2005 17:02, William Stokes wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind
> of php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?
>
> Thanks
> -Will

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[zerof]

http://www.maguma.com/

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Zouari Fourat]

I used PHPedit 0.6, PHPDesigner 2005, PHPed and Zend on windows.
and vi, eclipse and zend on linux.
Here's what i prefer :
if u'r looking for a free editor try eclipse/linux or PHPDesigner 2005/windows
and if u can afford the licence try the Zend, am using it by now and
it's magic ! plus it runs on windows/linux !


On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:29:30 -0500, GH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On linux I use thee KDE IDE program...
> 
> 
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:17 -0600, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:02:12 +0200, William Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind 
> > > of
> > > php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?
> >
> > vim.org
> > editplus.com
> >
> > Both support PHP syntax highlighting.
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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Greg Donald]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:11:05 +, Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a Debugger for PHP?

php -l filename.php for basic syntax check.

If you need more than that you can turn of full error reporting and
view the errors directly on the screen:

error_reporting( E_ALL );
ini_set( 'display_errors', 1 );

But later when you go to a production environment I'd go with:

error_reporting( E_ERROR | E_WARNING | E_PARSE );
ini_set( 'display_errors', 0 );
ini_set( 'log_errors', 1 );


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Re: [PHP] php editor

[GH]

On linux I use thee KDE IDE program...


On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:02:17 -0600, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:02:12 +0200, William Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
> > php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?
> 
> vim.org
> editplus.com
> 
> Both support PHP syntax highlighting.
> 
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RE: [PHP] php editor

[welly limston]

i'm usually use Dreamweaver to edit php code
and debug in it
it's very help ones us 
why don't u try
 
HTH

phpninja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Know any goog ones?"

funny you should mention goog.. if you google'd "php editor" youd have
your answer by now..

cheers
phpninja

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To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: [PHP] php editor

Hello,

I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?

Thanks
-Will

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Justin]

Bret Hughes wrote:
I am interested to hear what other folks are using.
Bret
Since I do Java, Python etc. on OSX/windows/Linux, I'm using Eclipse 
with the PHPEclipse (PHPEclipse.de), I'm just starting PHP, but I'm 
pretty happy with it so far. One thing I am wondering about is the 
situation which Debugging in PHP4 / PHP5. Is there a Debugger for PHP?

Thanks
J
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RE: [PHP] php editor

[Chris W. Parker]

Bret Hughes 
on Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:02 AM said:

> I assume windows by your mailer.  html-kit was good when I used
> windows on a day to day basis several years ago.

I'll second HTML-Kit. It's an excellent program (once you customize the
way it handles the tab key).

www.chami.com



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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Greg Donald]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:02:12 +0200, William Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
> php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?

vim.org
editplus.com

Both support PHP syntax highlighting.


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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Danny Brow]

On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 18:02 +0200, William Stokes wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
> php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?
> 
> Thanks
> -Will
> 

I like Komodo.

Dan.

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Jochem Maas]

doh, I hit reply again by mistake.
(I'm sure TBird keeps moving the reply-all button when I'm not looking  :-)

William Stokes wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some 
kind of

goog == good? me thinks yes! wonderful little freudian slip (i.e. maybe 
you should GOOGle for it ;-)

> php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?
this depends on what you are looking for, some people prefer fully 
integrated IDE environments, other people (like me) often prefer 
standalone editors (e.g because its often easier to combine with 
existing tools you use etc):

I really like Textpad on windows (29 Bucks to register - which I think 
is worth it), its simple, fast, robust, lots of plugins/addons/etc, 
custom syntax highlighting, integrate your own tools (e.g. I have CTRL+4 
setup to do a 'php -l' on the current file - 'php -l ' does syntax 
checking).

On *nix I tend to use 'nano' for quick stuff (I am slowly learning Vi, 
but its a tricky beast to control ;-) when in a shell.

On the IDE front - I'm actually really impressed with the Eclipse IDE, I 
keep firing it up and liking it more and more - its not PHP specific at 
all but has plenty of PHP related addons/customizations available for 
it, pretty amazing stuff + its available on both Windoze and Linux and 
its free :-)

At the end of the day once you get comfortable with PHP and you've 
memorized a bunch of the most used functions, you won't have much 
trouble writing it whatever tool you happen to have available!

hope you enjoy PHP as much as I do.
>
> Thanks
> -Will
>
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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Bret Hughes]

On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 10:02, William Stokes wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
> php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?

These sort of threads are good every now and then I think.  Especially
since it has been so long since I read this list on a day to day basis.

I assume windows by your mailer.  html-kit was good when I used windows
on a day to day basis several years ago.  I wish there was an html-kit
for linux.. gvim is my old stand by on windows and linux and does a
pretty good job of syntax highlighting but no completion/options based
stuff. gvim in combination with a browser ready to hit the manual pages
is all I use nowadays.

I am interested to hear what other folks are using.

Bret

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[John Nichel]

William Stokes wrote:
Hello,
I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?
http://www.thelinuxconsultancy.co.uk/phpeditors/
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RE: [PHP] php editor

[phpninja]

"Know any goog ones?"

funny you should mention goog.. if you google'd "php editor" youd have
your answer by now..

cheers
phpninja

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From: William Stokes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:02 AM
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: [PHP] php editor

Hello,

I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?

Thanks
-Will

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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Leif Gregory]

Hello William,

Thursday, January 13, 2005, 9:02:12 AM, you wrote:
W> I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using
W> some kind of php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any
W> goog ones?

There are a few.

http://www.pspad.com is my favorite, and it'll syntax highlight a good
number of programming languages. Plus you can download the PHP
documentation in .chm format from php.net and use it from within
PSPad. It's freeware too.


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Re: [PHP] php editor

[Paul Marinas]

i use phpedit www.phpedit.com i think it's preaty good and also have a 
free personal licence

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I'm quite new with writing php code. I was considering of using some kind of
php editor program to help with the syntax. Know any goog ones?
Thanks
-Will
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Re: [PHP] php editor or php IDE for linux with autocompletion

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Steve Brown wrote:
> Eclipse: http://www.eclipse.org/
> PHPEclipse: http://www.phpeclipse.de/

What about Eclipse? Did anyone make it work?

How does it compare to Kdevelop?

I tried to install it, unsuccesfully, on Mandrake 10.1 CE. Apparently, one
library is missing (but the library does not exist).

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Re: [PHP] php editor or php IDE for linux with autocompletion

[Steve Brown]

> > Does anyboy know about a linux based php editor with autocompletion? Must
> > be open source free software (free as in speech, not beer).

I use the PHPEclipse add on for the Eclipse IDE.  Eclipse provides a
fantastic suite of tools for coding in almost any language.  The
PHPEclipse add-ons provide some things that are specific to PHP. 
Eclipse is java based, so it works on any platform.

Eclipse: http://www.eclipse.org/
PHPEclipse: http://www.phpeclipse.de/

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Re: [PHP] php editor or php IDE for linux with autocompletion

[Jason Wong]

On Tuesday 30 November 2004 23:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Does anyboy know about a linux based php editor with autocompletion? Must
> be open source free software (free as in speech, not beer).
>
> We like quanta and kate, but there is no autocompletion.

What version of quanta are you using? Autocompletion was available quite a 
while ago.

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Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

[Aaron Gould]

> i'm sorry you've had so much trouble with it! but in the hopes of not
> scaring off other users i feel it is my duty as an html-kit user to
> respond.
I'll back you up on this.  I've used HTML-Kit for quite some time... 
probably over three years now.  Great little program, especially for free!

> 1. i use spaces all the time so this is not a problem for me.
> 2. i admit it, there are a *ton* of options. most of which i have not
> even bothered to set.
> 3. until very recently i have worked exclusively with a local ftp
> server so a secure connection has not been a concern.
> 4. i've never wanted to set a block of text to all lowercase so
> i can't really comment on this one.
Same on all accounts for me. Changing the case of blocked text does 
indeed require an extension, but I regard this as a strength of 
HTML-Kit.  It is infinitely expandable with plug-ins/extensions.

> i thought html-kit did this based on the filename extension? i've
> never pointed html-kit to any php executable (considering it's not
> even on my local machine) and it recognizes functions fine. are
> you referring to something else?
Same here; it takes the appropriate colour scheme based on file 
extension.  You can point to help files for languages though, I believe...

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RE: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

[Chris W. Parker]

Chris 
on Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:56 PM said:

>> HTML-Kit (www.chami.com) will do this. I've been using HTML-Kit for
>> almost 2 years and I've never had a problem with a bad save.

> I use HTML-Kit as well and feel it is a bloated pile of crap.

i'm sorry you've had so much trouble with it! but in the hopes of not
scaring off other users i feel it is my duty as an html-kit user to
respond.

> Tab
> handling is broken (if you select "tabs" over "spaces", selected text
> will still indent with spaces if you press tab to indent the whole
> block of code).  It suffers from severe option overload.  It lacks
> the ability to use secure FTP.  It also lacks simple features like
> setting a block of selected text to all lowercase without a plugin.

1. i use spaces all the time so this is not a problem for me.
2. i admit it, there are a *ton* of options. most of which i have not
even bothered to set.
3. until very recently i have worked exclusively with a local ftp server
so a secure connection has not been a concern.
4. i've never wanted to set a block of text to all lowercase so i can't
really comment on this one.

> The only feature I actually like is the ability to edit files via FTP
> so that when I hit save, it uploads the new copy to the server.  So
> if that's all you really care about in an editor, HTML-Kit will do a
> fine job.

that pretty much sums it up for me. :)

> Also, if you tell it where PHP is found on your local
> machine, it will highlight all of the PHP function names.

i thought html-kit did this based on the filename extension? i've never
pointed html-kit to any php executable (considering it's not even on my
local machine) and it recognizes functions fine. are you referring to
something else?



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Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

[Chris]

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:35:42 -0800, Chris W. Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Peter Lauri 
on Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:42 AM said:
What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected
directly to the FTP?
I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future
to connect to the FTP.
HTML-Kit (www.chami.com) will do this. I've been using HTML-Kit for
almost 2 years and I've never had a problem with a bad save.
hth,
chris.
I use HTML-Kit as well and feel it is a bloated pile of crap.  Tab  
handling is broken (if you select "tabs" over "spaces", selected text will  
still indent with spaces if you press tab to indent the whole block of  
code).  It suffers from severe option overload.  It lacks the ability to  
use secure FTP.  It also lacks simple features like setting a block of  
selected text to all lowercase without a plugin.

The only feature I actually like is the ability to edit files via FTP so  
that when I hit save, it uploads the new copy to the server.  So if that's  
all you really care about in an editor, HTML-Kit will do a fine job.   
Also, if you tell it where PHP is found on your local machine, it will  
highlight all of the PHP function names.

I have tried Ultra Edit, which claims to have a similar feature and  
supports secure FTP, but has a horrible implementation compared to  
HTML-Kit.  EditPlus claims it can connect via secure FTP through an SSH  
tunnel, which simply does not work if the server it is connecting to does  
not allow FTP connections at all.

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RE: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

[Chris W. Parker]

Peter Lauri 
on Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:42 AM said:

> What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected
> directly to the FTP?
> 
> I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future
> to connect to the FTP.

HTML-Kit (www.chami.com) will do this. I've been using HTML-Kit for
almost 2 years and I've never had a problem with a bad save.


hth,
chris.

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RE: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

[Gryffyn, Trevor]

I use Crimson Editor which will save directly to an FTP location fairly
easily.   I'm not sure if they fixed this, but in earlier versions it
wouldn't save a local backup copy and I ran into problems where it would
fail to send via FTP, I'd have a zero byte file on the remote web server
and would close Crimson Editor without testing first or something.. So
I'd lose whatever edits I did since my last backup.   So I stopped using
the Save to FTP feature.

I do believe that they do local backups now, but out of habit I don't
use the FTP Feature.

I bet Zend Studio will save remotely too.

-TG


> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:41:53 +0100, Peter Lauri 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What editor do you use when working with websites (php) 
> connected directly
> > to the FTP?
> 
> Editplus has this ability.
> 
http://editplus.com/


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Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

[Greg Donald]

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:41:53 +0100, Peter Lauri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly
> to the FTP?

Editplus has this ability.

http://editplus.com/


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Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

[Jason Wong]

On Thursday 18 November 2004 16:41, Peter Lauri wrote:

> What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly
> to the FTP?
>
> I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future to
> connect to the FTP.

Any KDE-aware editor would be able to take advantage of KDE's transparent file 
access over various protocols (ftp, ssh, etc).

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Greg Donald]

Richard Davey wrote:
Passing a potentially huge string through a replacement function for
every single page doesn't really = efficient in my shop. YMMV.
We use Turke MMCache so it's not every single page.

Besides that CPUs are way cheaper than bandwidth.

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Curt Zirzow]

* Thus wrote John W. Holmes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> From: "Chris Boget" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > > function cleanFinalOutput($html){
> > >   $return = eregi_replace("\n", "", $html);
> > >   $return = eregi_replace("\r", "", $return);
> > >   return eregi_replace("\t", "", $return);
> > > }
> >
> > Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above
> > to a single line function:
> >
> > function cleanFinalOutput($html){
> >   return eregi_replace("\n", "", eregi_replace("\r", "",
> eregi_replace("\t",
> > "", $html )));
> 
> Certainly don't need to fire up the regex engine.
> 
> return str_replace(array("\r","\n","\t"),'',$html);

and yet another way:

  return strtr($html, array("\t" => '', "\n" => '', "\r" => ''))

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Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

[Curt Zirzow]

* Thus wrote Arthur Radulescu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> PHP is one thing and HTML is another thing.. Check the google source code
> and you'll that this is how they have it... I assume the reason is to reduce
> the size of the page...

I very much doubt that, if they were so concerned about WS then
they wouldn't have idiotic things like:

Web



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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Curt Zirzow]

* Thus wrote Greg Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:57 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote:
> > ok, then: s/[\r\n\t]//m;
> >
> > either way, you're blindly removing white space, which *does* matter
> > in certain cases.
> 
> What case would that be?  The function I posted is completely safe.  I've been 
> using it for a long time without any issues.
> 
> View my efficient single line of html source code: http://destiney.com/.

actually, having *everything* on one line can make things
inefficient, depending on the browser implementation on reading
lines from the socket.

But my point is that there are cases where html is WS sensitive:

  
WS sensitive
  

  or
  
if ($ws ) {
  indent;
}
  

btw, you have a javascript on your homepage:

message: Statement on line 1: Expression evaluated to null or
undefined and is not convertible to Object: window.external
Backtrace:
  Line 1 of inline#1 script in http://destiney.com/
  window.external.AddFavorite("http://destiney.com/";,
  document.title);


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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Greg Donald]

On Thursday 15 April 2004 01:38 pm, John W. Holmes wrote:
> Certainly don't need to fire up the regex engine.
>
> return str_replace(array("\r","\n","\t"),'',$html);

Sweet, didn't know you pass it an array.  Thx!

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Greg Donald]

On Thursday 15 April 2004 01:49 pm, Richard Davey wrote:
> The browser doesn't give a
> monkeys about whitespace et all. Having said that, stripping it vs.
> leaving it is virtually irrelevant too and I'm shocked why so many
> skilled people on this list actually care-less about it :) There is no
> "right or wrong", it's down to personal preferences.

Well at my shop more efficient = right and less efficient = wrong.

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Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

[Arthur Radulescu]

> You are correct, but I believe the bandwidth savings is small.
>
> What I usually do for my apps is allow the admin to configure whitespace
> trimming.  If configured, I only remove whitespace from the beginning of
the
> line to the first non-whitespace character.  This reduces the code size
> somewhat, while still leaving the HTML human-readable (newlines are
intact).

I have checked on some pages and this is reduced with 15% to 40% usually...

But the discussion started from the PHP editor... I have forgot to mention
that another serious problem with the previous editors I have used was that
I have to develop a website in traditional chinese and it give me lot of
problmes with html editing... In fact I had no chances using Zend or
dreamweaver or homesite or phpeditor
The only chance was using notepad or dreamweaver MX... All the others were
messing the template files... I have even tried with Visuyal Studio and had
the same problems
Since I am developing another website in arabique at this moment I thought
that I should ask if anyone knows an editor to handle this kind of editing
in good conditions...




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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[John W. Holmes]

From: "Chris Boget" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > function cleanFinalOutput($html){
> >   $return = eregi_replace("\n", "", $html);
> >   $return = eregi_replace("\r", "", $return);
> >   return eregi_replace("\t", "", $return);
> > }
>
> Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above
> to a single line function:
>
> function cleanFinalOutput($html){
>   return eregi_replace("\n", "", eregi_replace("\r", "",
eregi_replace("\t",
> "", $html )));

Certainly don't need to fire up the regex engine.

return str_replace(array("\r","\n","\t"),'',$html);

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Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

[Travis Low]

You are correct, but I believe the bandwidth savings is small.

What I usually do for my apps is allow the admin to configure whitespace 
trimming.  If configured, I only remove whitespace from the beginning of the 
line to the first non-whitespace character.  This reduces the code size 
somewhat, while still leaving the HTML human-readable (newlines are intact).

cheers,

Travis

Arthur Radulescu wrote:
What I meant was that it is obiously that eliminating the spaces but not by
a blind replacement, the new lines characters and even the tabs will reduce
the size of the page which will result in a faster loading and less
bandwidth consumed... And the example was google... Am I wrong with anything
here?


[snip]
PHP is one thing and HTML is another thing.. Check the google source
code
and you'll that this is how they have it... I assume the reason is to
reduce
the size of the page...
[snip]
Your assumption about Google would be incorrect, it has nothing to do
with page size as most of their pages are predominately text.
See http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#whitespace for a more
detailed dissertation on white space in HTML.
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Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

[Arthur Radulescu]

What I meant was that it is obiously that eliminating the spaces but not by
a blind replacement, the new lines characters and even the tabs will reduce
the size of the page which will result in a faster loading and less
bandwidth consumed... And the example was google... Am I wrong with anything
here?



[snip]
PHP is one thing and HTML is another thing.. Check the google source
code
and you'll that this is how they have it... I assume the reason is to
reduce
the size of the page...
[snip]

Your assumption about Google would be incorrect, it has nothing to do
with page size as most of their pages are predominately text.

See http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#whitespace for a more
detailed dissertation on white space in HTML.

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Re: [PHP] PHP editor

[Greg Donald]

On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:57 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote:
> ok, then: s/[\r\n\t]//m;
>
> either way, you're blindly removing white space, which *does* matter
> in certain cases.

What case would that be?  The function I posted is completely safe.  I've been 
using it for a long time without any issues.

View my efficient single line of html source code: http://destiney.com/.

All the styles and javascript work fine.  HTML parsers don't give a rats ass 
about newlines, tabs, and carriage returns so why have them..  Makes the 
output easier to compress as well.

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