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David A. Desrosiers wrote: I asked some people about this at last year's Palmsource, specifically around borrowing code in POSE (which supports the pseudo VFS api to write to these devices) in pilot-link, and I was threatened with lawyers. They said that I am *NOT* allowed to hijack Palm's code in my open source projects... and I reinforced my claim by declaring, to the amazement of the person I spoke with (whose name escapes me, but he was doing one of the talks) that POSE was GPL'd, as was pilot-link, and I could use the code in pilot-link. Is this sort of idiocy representative of Palm's attitude? It really amazes me - I've owned 3 different Palm handhelds, and would not have bought any of them without the Linux support provided by pilot-link. Are they really so stupid that they can't see what you're doing adds value to their platform?? Mike. ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix
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On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 13:48, Mike Brodbelt wrote: Is this sort of idiocy representative of Palm's attitude? It really amazes me - I've owned 3 different Palm handhelds, and would not have bought any of them without the Linux support provided by pilot-link. Are they really so stupid that they can't see what you're doing adds value to their platform?? I think it's safe to say that Palm has come around a lot in the last few months -- they are starting to listen to their most important asset: their users. They've helped set up a set of discussion boards at http://discussion.brighthand.com/palmhandhelds -- and I can assure you that there are Palm employees reading them. A discussion group for Unix Palm users probably isn't a bad idea... I'll see about getting one added... -- Ben Steeves -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign ICQ: 15105093 X against HTML e-mail PGP ID: DE06162D / \ ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix
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Many big companies have come to realize that more money is made in software then in hardware, if for no other reason then because the variables costs are *much* less. So when they see free development potentially replacing their software divisions, big business cringes. Terry Fielder Network Engineer Great Gulf Homes / Ashton Woods Homes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Brodbelt Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (no subject) David A. Desrosiers wrote: I asked some people about this at last year's Palmsource, specifically around borrowing code in POSE (which supports the pseudo VFS api to write to these devices) in pilot-link, and I was threatened with lawyers. They said that I am *NOT* allowed to hijack Palm's code in my open source projects... and I reinforced my claim by declaring, to the amazement of the person I spoke with (whose name escapes me, but he was doing one of the talks) that POSE was GPL'd, as was pilot-link, and I could use the code in pilot-link. Is this sort of idiocy representative of Palm's attitude? It really amazes me - I've owned 3 different Palm handhelds, and would not have bought any of them without the Linux support provided by pilot-link. Are they really so stupid that they can't see what you're doing adds value to their platform?? Mike. ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix
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A discussion group for Unix Palm users probably isn't a bad idea... I'll see about getting one added... Let's be careful not to fracture this list. How about just adding a mention here and there about the pilot-unix mailing list on the main forum and point to the archives in your .signature file? I'd hate to see the Unix Palm user community get spread too thin across multiple lists. Plus it's one more list I'd have to subscribe to =) I'll subscribe anyway though, good pointer. /d ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix
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** Reply to note from Ben Steeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29 Nov 2001 14:06:25 -0400 A discussion group for Unix Palm users probably isn't a bad idea... I'll see about getting one added... ahem, don't narrow it to just *nix users, how about for non-windoze users; I use Palm Link on OS/2 Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt.net.au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix
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On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:45:27AM +, Voytek Eymont wrote: ** Reply to note from Ben Steeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29 Nov 2001 14:06:25 -0400 A discussion group for Unix Palm users probably isn't a bad idea... I'll see about getting one added... ahem, don't narrow it to just *nix users, how about for non-windoze users; I use Palm Link on OS/2 Me too! Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt.net.au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 -- John ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix
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** Reply to note from John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:57:18 + A discussion group for Unix Palm users probably isn't a bad idea... I'll see about getting one added... ahem, don't narrow it to just *nix users, how about for non-windoze users; I use Palm Link on OS/2 Me too! though, David's suggestion to 'don't fragment, keep it here' is perhaps 'a better idea', me too doesn't want to join too many groups Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt.net.au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix
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It does not have to be pilot-link. Maybe there is some other software doing this. Only requirement is to run under unix. I even thought about writing myself simple pilot application with linux part which will upload fies over serial/IR and save them to memory stick. I asked some people about this at last year's Palmsource, specifically around borrowing code in POSE (which supports the pseudo VFS api to write to these devices) in pilot-link, and I was threatened with lawyers. They said that I am *NOT* allowed to hijack Palm's code in my open source projects... and I reinforced my claim by declaring, to the amazement of the person I spoke with (whose name escapes me, but he was doing one of the talks) that POSE was GPL'd, as was pilot-link, and I could use the code in pilot-link. In any case, in order to do this we need VFS support in pilot-link and in libpisock. It's in the plans, since I'd love to be able to back up CF and SD cards from the desktop with pilot-xfer and friends. If someone with removable storage/filesystem experience wants to take point on coming up with a good design, I'm open to ideas. jpr and I are cranking away at fixing the userspace tools and the protocol recipes for per-device protocol stacking in pilot-link's library subsystem. /d ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix
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perhaps cfzap is sort of like what you're looking for? (app that works on the trgpro, and lets beamed stuff go directly to CF card. Not sure how portable those APIs are.) ___ Pilot-unix mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu/mailman/listinfo/pilot-unix
