[pinhole-discussion] Pinhole camera plan+instructions
I know many here subscribe to the cameramakers list, but for those who don't, here is the copy of a recent message: I found this while surfing around today. It's free instructions and plans for a wooden pinhole camera that takes a 4x5 sheet film holder. http://www.popularwoodworking.com/features/fea.asp?id=1048 Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] Pintoid and Celestial Seasonings Teas
I'm hoarding an Altoid's tin and a Celestial Seasonings tea tin too. There are some French bon-bon hard candies that come in a round can, although some have switched to plastic cans. I was too busy lately to read the digests - I saw a message about Who we Are, and later Pintoid... I assumed Pintoid was a nickname for Pinhold enthusiasts until I took the time to read the messages. Murray
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Electrical Tape
Here is an idea that i used on my mini-altoids tin camera(which i believe was the first ever altoids camera,btw) anyways, a 3/4 flat magnet that can be purchased really cheap, is the very best possible shutter..imho for any of you out there who are interested in an interesting story..i asked altoids if they had any interest in this altoids camera that i built,almost a year ago..i only asked if they had an interest because they promote themselves as very interested in the arts in general..they even promote some young artists from what i understand. Funny thing is ,they had zero interest in even hearing about the camera,let alone the number of people that might buy their mints to make cameras..just thought you all might get a little kick out of this little tid bit.. Harry www.figurefoto.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond.....................
- Original Message - From: Ricardo Wildberger Lisboa wildber...@svn.com.br Can I find that Ilford reciprocity failure table on the web? If it is Ilford film tables you are looking for, yes you can find them at www.ilford.com If what you are looking for is reciprocity tables for ilford paper, you can find the table I use in an article I wrote about pinhole exposures: http://members.home.com/penate/pinhole.html (link is almost at the end of the page) ? Is there a similar table for T-max 100 ? That one is at www.kodak.com Reciprocity failure is really a problem. If you are into pinholing, just learn to live with it! or shoot Ilford delta 3200 and push it to 25000, it will give you exposures of 1/100th of a sec under sunny skies with a pinhole camera f/256.forget about the electric tape shutter, though! :-) What if I'm working with lith film for half tone development later on ? Thank you for any help. You got me here, my guess is that reciprocity may be close to what for ilford paper emulsion is, but that is just a guess. Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] Needle size for pinholes
Hi, I'm looking for some basic information on making pinholes. Which size needle to use in relation to focal length. I know there is a book called ,The Hole Thing, which has this info, unfortunately my local library doesn't carry it. Does anyone know of a website that has this info? Kelly
[pinhole-discussion] Re: new to the list
Hello , I'm 42 , live in New Jersey USA , run a picture framing shop in the NYC Metro area and in my free time indulge in pinhole and toy camera photography. This forum has been so very helpful in many ways , technically and artistically, and I enjoy reading the posts from pin-heads all over the world. Some examples of the kind of stuff i do are on my website, see link below. Godspeed to all in these difficult times. Gina http://home.ix.netcom.com/~ginabell/index.html
Re: [pinhole-discussion] simple enlarger question - red filter?
I made a cheap easel for each size of paper I wanted to use by cutting a window mat in mat board, the window just a little smaller than the size of the paper. Then I hinged the window mat to a solid piece of matboard, and put masking tape on the backing board to mark where the paper should go. The window mat holds the paper down and creates a border as well. For contact printing, you could either put the negative under the window mat, or you could omit the window mat and just use the solid matboard with the tape on it. I offer this suggestion as someone who has some masking tape stuck eternally to the stage of her enlarger, which I have never been able to remove with any kind of solvent. Katharine Thayer Bill Erickson wrote: I'm pretty sure you can use it to line your paper up, but you can also just line up the empty easel, if you're using one. If not, just line up a piece of paper and mark the edges with masking tape and put subsequent pieces of paper inside the tape lines.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond.....................
Dear friends, Can I find that Ilford reciprocity failure table on the web? On which sites ? Is there a similar table for T-max 100 ? Reciprocity failure is really a problem. What if I'm working with lith film for half tone development later on ? Thank you for any help. Ricardo. - Original Message - From: Guillermo pen...@home.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Determining exposure beyond. - Original Message - From: Rune Tallaksen tall...@alfanett.no Can anybody help me with how to determine exposure when correcting for resiprosity failure when the measured esposuretime exceeds that of the table from the filmvendor? For instance when using Ilford HP5 Plus, the film data sheet gives the added time for resiprosity failure until initial measured 35 secs(corrected for pinhole f stop). How can I calculate the correct exposure time beyond this point? Tiral and error until now has not been satisfactory for me. One way to do it is by extrapolating the curve Ilford is giving you. You can do that mathematically or graphically. I usually do it graphically. Take the Ilford curve and reproduce it on a piece of paper, extend the X or horizontal axis to read the maximum uncorrected time you want and then extend the curve with pencil trying to follow the same tendency, then is just a matter of extending the Y axis and graduating both axis. I just did that very quickly and the resulting extended curve gives me the following values, for 60, 90 and 120 secs of uncorrected exposure: 60 secs uncorrected = 475 secs corrected 90 secs = 925 secs 120 secs = 1900 secs Once you have the extrapolated curve, use it and if you get consistently somewhat overexposed film, that means the curve was done a bit to steep. If film is underexposed consistently then the curve needs to be re-done a little more steeper. One thing for sure, extrapolating the curve would give you better reciprocity corrections than trial and error. Hope it helps. Guillermo ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] simple enlarger question - red filter?
I'm pretty sure you can use it to line your paper up, but you can also just line up the empty easel, if you're using one. If not, just line up a piece of paper and mark the edges with masking tape and put subsequent pieces of paper inside the tape lines. - Original Message - From: R Duarte ra...@rahji.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:07 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] simple enlarger question - red filter? hi everyone, i guess this isn't necessarily a pinhole question but i've only been using my enlarger for pinhole contact prints so far so actually i guess it is a pinhole question. :) anyway, i have this red filter that i think goes where the negative carrier goes. can i really use this to line up paper on the board? or is this more just so you don't really have the hide the paper that you have out on the other side of the darkroom? i'd think that even with the red filter in there, the paper would get fogged since the light is so bright. thanks for any info... rob ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Electrical Tape
Dear All, My 2 cents on electrical tape... Mostly I've used electrical tape for shutters, mounting pinholes and sealing the edges of box and can cameras. I've used the cheap stuff and stopped using it. It would lose its sticking ability within a few exposures and leave glue on the pinholes and can rims. It gets stiff in winter making it hard to get the shutter back on in sub-freezing temperatures. I started using 3M electrical tape, which costs 2 - 6 times as much (depending on sale prices v. full retail). Its worth it, though: I use way less of it. It is easy to work with, maintains its elasticity in winter with and can be used repeatedly. I've used the same long strip of tape for many exposures over many months to light-seal the lid on large popcorn cans. Tom
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Electrical tape for pinhole purposes
I used strapping tape to make this camera.. http://www.rahji.com/images/composinglines.jpg then used gaffer's tape over all of the joints just to make it light tight. the strapping tape makes a really strong box though. rob From: George L Smyth glsm...@yahoo.com Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:45:03 -0700 (PDT) To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Electrical tape for pinhole purposes --- Nick Dvoracek dvora...@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu wrote: About 10 years ago I got the same idea about cheap electrical tape. Tried it out and it seemed to work great, so I ordered about 100 rolls for a project to provide pinhole cameras to schools. Most of it hardly stuck at all and the rest came loose pretty quick. Maybe it's OK for making metal pintoids light tight, but I wouldn't recommend it for assembling foamcore or matboard cameras. A physicist I know also told me it's not opaque in the infrared if you're into that! This is correct. I use electrical tape to amke my foamcore cameras, but then, they've always been designed with the expectation that I'll eventually sit on them and destroy them anyway. It is true that electrical tape is not infrared opaque, but then I rather doubt that foamcore or matboard is either, so that's a moot point. OTOH, although different types of wood have different degrees of infrared opacity, I have used pine (which is probably about the least opaque wood) with infrared with success, so thickness probably enters into the scene. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://members.home.net/hmpi/ __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] simple enlarger question - red filter?
hi everyone, i guess this isn't necessarily a pinhole question but i've only been using my enlarger for pinhole contact prints so far so actually i guess it is a pinhole question. :) anyway, i have this red filter that i think goes where the negative carrier goes. can i really use this to line up paper on the board? or is this more just so you don't really have the hide the paper that you have out on the other side of the darkroom? i'd think that even with the red filter in there, the paper would get fogged since the light is so bright. thanks for any info... rob
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Black Paper tape
Just to let people know if interested since ther is a chat abou tape: I have always used black paper tape most of the time. (I still use the black electrical too, I have not had problems) I used to get the paper tape from a professional camera shop when I lived in Pittsburgh but I have moved to Georgia and live in a small town so I have to order from afar. The tape is 1 inch thick. Its made by a company called TESA www.tesa.com / but I think they are just wholesale. I have When I was in LA, CA I went to Freestyle camera (Freestylesales.com) and got more black tape but they did not have it in the 1 they had 1/2 inch. I also have another brand of 1 black paper tape as well. Although Lightimpressionsdirect.com may have this product or Calumet.com Wendy Garfinkel - Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] teacher Gordy Emery
Thank you so much. This will be a part of the class I teach. Be sure to look at: www.shsw.wisc.edu/sites/bennett I do some guiding there. Sincerely, Gordy Emery 643 LaValle St. Reedsburg, Wi. 53959-1554 geme...@hotmail.com Home: 608-524-3841 From: Kosinski Family zin...@telenet.net Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] teacher Gordy Emery Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:10:37 -0400 Hi Gordon, I'll get a camera out to you soon! (now, wasn't that easy...) other info can be found on the websiteon the website www.paintcancamera.com Thanks Jim K - Original Message - From: Gordy Emery geme...@hotmail.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] teacher Gordy Emery I am a photography teacher for Madison Area Tec. Collage-Reedsburg, Wisconsin. My name and address is: GORDON EMERY M.A.T.C. P.O. BOX 419 300 ALEXANDER AVE. REEDSBURG, WI.53959-0419 O. 608-524-4386 H. 608-524-3841 FAX 608-524-8424 I would like information as to the free camera, as well as supplies and prices for the class room. Thank you, GORDY EMERY E-MAIL: geme...@hotmail.com From: Kosinski Family zin...@telenet.net Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:46:27 -0400 In a message dated 9/16/01 6:20:18 PM, tricks...@aol.com writes: Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? I'm Jim K and live in Cherry Valley, NY, a very beautiful place in the northern Catskill mountains, right near Cooperstown. In the fall spring I teach photography at Hartwick College... am middle aged, haha (to quote leezy). I make pinhole cameras and give one to a teacher every week, the website is www.paintcancamera.com A new camera that you put the chemistry in and develop the pictures anywhere you happen to be is coming out this fall. All you need is a black changing bag and a few containers to work in the field or classroom. Am very close to solving all the difficulties of making bw prints without a darkroom, using a few simple tools, even in broad daylight! This will allow anyone to undertake a complete introductory course in bw photography without an enlarger or special room... will let you know as things progress. We all work hard and like to have fun while we're at it! Good luck. and thanks again to everyone for the great support in recent events... ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Electrical tape for pinhole purposes
Most of it hardly stuck at all and the rest came loose pretty quick vinyl tape is pretty strong, if you stretch it out and put it on an object it will shrink back and the adhesive will let go... the trick is to let it relax back to its original size after you pull it off the roll, then apply it of course, if it's just bad tape there's nothing you can do about it jim k
Re: [pinhole-discussion] teacher Gordy Emery
Hi Gordon, I'll get a camera out to you soon! (now, wasn't that easy...) other info can be found on the websiteon the website www.paintcancamera.com Thanks Jim K - Original Message - From: Gordy Emery geme...@hotmail.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] teacher Gordy Emery I am a photography teacher for Madison Area Tec. Collage-Reedsburg, Wisconsin. My name and address is: GORDON EMERY M.A.T.C. P.O. BOX 419 300 ALEXANDER AVE. REEDSBURG, WI.53959-0419 O. 608-524-4386 H. 608-524-3841 FAX 608-524-8424 I would like information as to the free camera, as well as supplies and prices for the class room. Thank you, GORDY EMERY E-MAIL: geme...@hotmail.com From: Kosinski Family zin...@telenet.net Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:46:27 -0400 In a message dated 9/16/01 6:20:18 PM, tricks...@aol.com writes: Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? I'm Jim K and live in Cherry Valley, NY, a very beautiful place in the northern Catskill mountains, right near Cooperstown. In the fall spring I teach photography at Hartwick College... am middle aged, haha (to quote leezy). I make pinhole cameras and give one to a teacher every week, the website is www.paintcancamera.com A new camera that you put the chemistry in and develop the pictures anywhere you happen to be is coming out this fall. All you need is a black changing bag and a few containers to work in the field or classroom. Am very close to solving all the difficulties of making bw prints without a darkroom, using a few simple tools, even in broad daylight! This will allow anyone to undertake a complete introductory course in bw photography without an enlarger or special room... will let you know as things progress. We all work hard and like to have fun while we're at it! Good luck. and thanks again to everyone for the great support in recent events... ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Electrical tape for pinhole purposes
--- Nick Dvoracek dvora...@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu wrote: About 10 years ago I got the same idea about cheap electrical tape. Tried it out and it seemed to work great, so I ordered about 100 rolls for a project to provide pinhole cameras to schools. Most of it hardly stuck at all and the rest came loose pretty quick. Maybe it's OK for making metal pintoids light tight, but I wouldn't recommend it for assembling foamcore or matboard cameras. A physicist I know also told me it's not opaque in the infrared if you're into that! This is correct. I use electrical tape to amke my foamcore cameras, but then, they've always been designed with the expectation that I'll eventually sit on them and destroy them anyway. It is true that electrical tape is not infrared opaque, but then I rather doubt that foamcore or matboard is either, so that's a moot point. OTOH, although different types of wood have different degrees of infrared opacity, I have used pine (which is probably about the least opaque wood) with infrared with success, so thickness probably enters into the scene. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://members.home.net/hmpi/ __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: new to this list
- Original Message - From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net so you've mounted your PH's on the inside.I've been using 35mm slide holders for pretty much the same thing. what diameter is your composing washer? This was something I was thinking of trying. Washer hole is 1/8, image is very fuzzy, but I am interested in recognizing shapes not in details. Guillermo
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: new to this list
so you've mounted your PH's on the inside.I've been using 35mm slide holders for pretty much the same thing. what diameter is your composing washer? This was something I was thinking of trying. This is such a wonderful side of the photographic arts thanks for the help andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Guillermo Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:49 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: new to this list - Original Message - From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net Neat camera Gill...even a real back on it. What is the focal length do you get much vinetting with it? Andy, I have had good luck in finding real backs, that 8x10 cost me like $7 US, it is metal and has two thumbscrews that allow me to flip it to vertical or horizontal composition. At the front I installed a filter ring that allows me to use filter on it. Focal length is 90mm, no real vignetting. Here is the back alone: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/back.JPG Here is the back sans GG: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/backback.JPG See the square in the middle, it is a flat magnet. I mount a small washer that I use as my composing lens and then I mount the pinhole (non-magnetic) and keep it in place by putting a big (magnetic) washer on top. Since I needed to have easy access I removed the GG and mounted it to a cardboard frame, I also mounted a plastic fresnel reading lens on the GG, that helps me have a brighter image: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/fresnel.JPG Here are couple of pictures showing the front of the camera and the filter ring, you can also see the composing aperture (AKA washer): http://members.home.com/penate/camera/front.JPG http://members.home.com/penate/camera/filter.JPG I also have a very nice 5x7 metal back I bought for $10! at a photo fair (some vendors have no idea what they are selling!! I am not complaining though!). I have yet to turn it into a pinhole camera. Guillermo ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Japan Introduces Pin-hole Camera Kit
I want the 600 P/N film they alluded to. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Guillermo Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:28 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Japan Introduces Pin-hole Camera Kit - Original Message - From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca I just read your release on Pinhole Visions. Is this you behind this initiative? I thought that there was too much reciprocity/color shift problems with polaroid to be really successful material for pinhole. When are we going to see it in Canada? SEE IT that's as far I'd go, the concept is very interesting but I can't get myself to pay $100 for it. I bought a Polaroid back accepting 600 film at eBay couple of weeks ago for $10 with the intention to transform it into a polaroid pinhole camera, eventually. Nevertheless, I'd like to tell my Japanese friends or anybody else: Whenever in doubt, Go for it!, I don't have doubts, though!. Guillermo ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Electrical tape for pinhole purposes
About 10 years ago I got the same idea about cheap electrical tape. Tried it out and it seemed to work great, so I ordered about 100 rolls for a project to provide pinhole cameras to schools. Most of it hardly stuck at all and the rest came loose pretty quick. Maybe it's OK for making metal pintoids light tight, but I wouldn't recommend it for assembling foamcore or matboard cameras. A physicist I know also told me it's not opaque in the infrared if you're into that! Guy wrote: . How did you get them light tight? Did you wrap some tape around to seal the light away? I suppose that you loaded them in a light-tight bag. How many would you carry around with you on a typical day? . That got expensive. I've found electrical tape on sale ... three rolls for a buck. I made over one hundred Pintoids. Marcy Merrill Photographer www.merrillphoto.com -- Nick Dvoracek dvora...@uwosh.edu Director of Media Services Voice: 920-424-7363 University of Wisconsin OshkoshFax: 920-424-7324 http://idea.uwosh.edu/media_services/home.html
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Japan Introduces Pin-hole Camera Kit
- Original Message - From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca I just read your release on Pinhole Visions. Is this you behind this initiative? I thought that there was too much reciprocity/color shift problems with polaroid to be really successful material for pinhole. When are we going to see it in Canada? SEE IT that's as far I'd go, the concept is very interesting but I can't get myself to pay $100 for it. I bought a Polaroid back accepting 600 film at eBay couple of weeks ago for $10 with the intention to transform it into a polaroid pinhole camera, eventually. Nevertheless, I'd like to tell my Japanese friends or anybody else: Whenever in doubt, Go for it!, I don't have doubts, though!. Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Japan Introduces Pin-hole Camera Kit
Hey Ed, I just read your release on Pinhole Visions. Is this you behind this initiative? I thought that there was too much reciprocity/color shift problems with polaroid to be really successful material for pinhole. When are we going to see it in Canada? Cheers, Guy Peace on earth to goodwill men and women
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Really-large format pinhole
Guillermo wrote: You won't believe it but I got one of those. Actually, these come up every once in a while on eBay. Three years ago, I bought a 16x20 bellows with the intent of turning it into a huge pinhole camera. The intent is still there, but there's been other things around to prevent me from doing it. How about we get together one weekend and work on this? Of course, we'll need a couple of beers to get us started... -:)) Guy Peace on earth to goodwill men and women
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
- Original Message - From: Markus Birsfelder b...@active.ch Hello Marcy Your pictures are great and I would like to try making some of my own. Being a Swiss, I have not the faintest idea what an Altoid container is. Could you give me a hint. Here is a hint: altoids.com Isn't it the web wonderful!! Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
- Original Message - From: Marcy Merrill ma...@merrillphoto.com made over one hundred Pintoids. I knew about people eating Quaker cereal like crazy to have pinhole camera material, but 100 Altoid boxes is a lot of mint! :-) Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Really-large format pinhole
- Original Message - From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca For anyone interested in really-large format pinhole camera making, there is a 20x24 bellows for sale on eBay. (US only) Current bid is at $66.00... This beats you 6x9 format, Guillermo! ...-:)) You won't believe it but I got one of those. Some years ago I bought at an auction a vertical copy camera, my main interest was 4 Schneider lenses it had (3 of them G-CLARON), I removed the lenses, the bellows and the vacumm easel+pump. Sold one of the lenses and the Vacumm easel+pump for more than what I paid for the whole camera! Couldn't keep the camera due to lack of space. One of this days I will make something out of it. Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
There used to be the sleaziest camel imaginable in the Bismarck zoo. But that's off-topic. - Original Message - From: Marcy Merrill ma...@merrillphoto.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids Guy wrote: . How did you get them light tight? Did you wrap some tape around to seal the light away? I suppose that you loaded them in a light-tight bag. How many would you carry around with you on a typical day? Yup. I loaded them in a changing bag. I wrapped black electrical tape around them. I taped the film inside with skinny Gaffer's tape. At first I was using Gaffer's tape to seal the outside of the containers. That got expensive. I've found electrical tape on sale ... three rolls for a buck. I made over one hundred Pintoids. I knew that if I had to re-load to make a shot, I probably wouldn't do it. I'm lazy. I probably used about thirty-some per day, on an average day. The rear main seal on my Jeep's engine blew out during the trip. So I had to stop every 45 miles or so to add another quart of oil ... I photographed what was there (at each stop), photogenic or not. Until Bismarck, where I dealt with the problem. Bismarck is actually a really cool town! I never would have stopped there, if I hadn't been in need of the services of Corwinn some-body-or-other's Jeep dealership. The Missouri River runs through Bismarck. Still gotta print those shots. The Pintoid page mentions the next trip, which is to the Alamo. The trip was planned before these latest events involving terrorism in our country. Still, I think now that I'll go. Guy, thank-you for your interest.-MM Marcy Merrill Photographer www.merrillphoto.com ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
AW: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
Hello Marcy Your pictures are great and I would like to try making some of my own. Being a Swiss, I have not the faintest idea what an Altoid container is. Could you give me a hint. Thanks Markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]Im Auftrag von Marcy Merrill Gesendet: Montag, 17. September 2001 23:57 An: Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? Betreff: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids Months ago, when the world was very different from what it is now ... I picked the brains of everyone on this list regarding the creation of pinhole cameras from Altoid containers. I'd like to thank everyone who answered my silly questions. I also want to let everyone know that I've posted some of the photos from a recent trip. Photos made with these Pintoids. http://www.merrillphoto.com/pintoidadventure.htm Again, thanks to all! -MM Peace. Marcy Merrill Photographer www.merrillphoto.com ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
Guy wrote: . How did you get them light tight? Did you wrap some tape around to seal the light away? I suppose that you loaded them in a light-tight bag. How many would you carry around with you on a typical day? Yup. I loaded them in a changing bag. I wrapped black electrical tape around them. I taped the film inside with skinny Gaffer's tape. At first I was using Gaffer's tape to seal the outside of the containers. That got expensive. I've found electrical tape on sale ... three rolls for a buck. I made over one hundred Pintoids. I knew that if I had to re-load to make a shot, I probably wouldn't do it. I'm lazy. I probably used about thirty-some per day, on an average day. The rear main seal on my Jeep's engine blew out during the trip. So I had to stop every 45 miles or so to add another quart of oil ... I photographed what was there (at each stop), photogenic or not. Until Bismarck, where I dealt with the problem. Bismarck is actually a really cool town! I never would have stopped there, if I hadn't been in need of the services of Corwinn some-body-or-other's Jeep dealership. The Missouri River runs through Bismarck. Still gotta print those shots. The Pintoid page mentions the next trip, which is to the Alamo. The trip was planned before these latest events involving terrorism in our country. Still, I think now that I'll go. Guy, thank-you for your interest.-MM Marcy Merrill Photographer www.merrillphoto.com
[pinhole-discussion] Really-large format pinhole
For anyone interested in really-large format pinhole camera making, there is a 20x24 bellows for sale on eBay. (US only) Description: Offered are some very large camera bellows. These came off a 20x24 commercial/industrial camera. They are in fine condition. Large end measures just over 20x24 and the small end about 11x14. They extend out around 30 there are 10 folds. Lots of uses. Use your imagination. Offered with a $60 min. Buyer pays $10 postage. Payment in 10 days Check: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1276040906 Current bid is at $66.00... This beats you 6x9 format, Guillermo! ...-:)) All you need to do is build a decent front and rear standard and some kind of frame to keep them aligned together. Paper negatives on this one, I guess! Guy Peace on earth to goodwill men and women
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Hm . . . I just bought a 6x9 folder on eBay and when it arrived the bellows turned out to be litterally falling apart, which was not in the seller's description. The seller is refunding my money and said that I can keep the camera. I see a priject there! (Also a minor conversion to use 120 film -- the camera is a Kodak Monitor Six-20...) How soon can we expest to see some sample sxposures, Guillermo? Mike Vande Bunt Guy Glorieux wrote: Guillermo wrote: -My latest one, just finished it yesterday!, an Agfa 6x6 folder purchased at eBay for $9 converted to a 36mm pinhole camera, I still use the shutter that came with the camera, but removed some of the front stuff to avoid vignetting. http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/6x6.jpg Nice piece, Guillermo. How does 36mm on 6x6 compare with 35mm format focals? Would it be around 20mm? I like the way you've managed to keep the shutter and cable release. I think I'm going to search for an Agfa on eBay... -:)) On vignetting, I myself have come to build vignetting as a pictorial component of my images. Some people like it, others don't. I find it helps draw the viewer into the picture, whereas the conventional non-vignetted images leaves the viewer outside of the image. Perhaps this comes from my fascination for 'Gene Smith's picture Children in Paradise... Cheers, Guy Peace on earth to goodwill men and women ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
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- Original Message - From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/6x6.jpg Nice piece, Guillermo. How does 36mm on 6x6 compare with 35mm format focals? Would it be around 20mm? That is correct. (18.35mm to be more exact). I like the way you've managed to keep the shutter and cable release. I think I'm going to search for an Agfa on eBay... -:)) I am now looking for a 6x9! Don't outbid me pls!! :-) On vignetting, I myself have come to build vignetting as a pictorial component of my images. Although I have not been able to get real vignetting in any of my cameras, even with the 14mm (35mm format) I don't get too much (I guess my pinhole are just too good! ;-), I really like the effect in some circumstances. But, IMO there is a difference between mechanical vignetting and optical one. The kind of vignetting I am talking about on this camera was the mechanical one, sort of like when the filter ring gets in your picture when using wide angle lenses. Guillermo
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- Original Message - From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net Neat camera Gill...even a real back on it. What is the focal length do you get much vinetting with it? Andy, I have had good luck in finding real backs, that 8x10 cost me like $7 US, it is metal and has two thumbscrews that allow me to flip it to vertical or horizontal composition. At the front I installed a filter ring that allows me to use filter on it. Focal length is 90mm, no real vignetting. Here is the back alone: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/back.JPG Here is the back sans GG: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/backback.JPG See the square in the middle, it is a flat magnet. I mount a small washer that I use as my composing lens and then I mount the pinhole (non-magnetic) and keep it in place by putting a big (magnetic) washer on top. Since I needed to have easy access I removed the GG and mounted it to a cardboard frame, I also mounted a plastic fresnel reading lens on the GG, that helps me have a brighter image: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/fresnel.JPG Here are couple of pictures showing the front of the camera and the filter ring, you can also see the composing aperture (AKA washer): http://members.home.com/penate/camera/front.JPG http://members.home.com/penate/camera/filter.JPG I also have a very nice 5x7 metal back I bought for $10! at a photo fair (some vendors have no idea what they are selling!! I am not complaining though!). I have yet to turn it into a pinhole camera. Guillermo
