[pinhole-discussion] Websites that I can contribute to...?
Hey Everyone, I was wondering if you all knew of a website that is dedicated to pinhole photography that i can upload my images to. i've got some images that i'm pretty proud of that i would like to share with others. any info would be appreciated. thanks, Steve --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- We have...become our own thought police; but instead of calling the process by which we limit our own expression of dissent and wonder 'censorship', we call it 'concern for commercial viability'. -David Mamet
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: pinhole IR
that print is absolutely stunning! i love it! so now i have to ask, you said you used and opaque IR filter? did you mount it in front of the pinhole? or behind? i'm going to assume that you didn't move it about in front of the pinhole if you rated the film at 3? it must have been a lengthy exposure. please impart your knowledge. i've recently crafted a pinholga myself, and i'm really interested in trying this IR business. congratulations on the wonderful image. and making a cyanotype was a great idea. cheers, Steve [Original Message] From: ColdMarblePhoto coldmar...@dgbn.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 12/10/2002 11:15:19 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: pinhole IR on 12/10/02 , Ed Nazarko wrote: I've been craving pinhole with infrared imaging capability, difficult with Kodak now only producing 35mm infrared film. I've had fun with the Maco IR820 film which is available in 35mm, 120 and 4x5 (Yippee!) It's slow as my mind in the morning before coffee. I usually rate it about 3 (the film, not my mind) and you will need an opaque IR filter such as a Wratten 87 or a Hoya R72. I just uploaded a cyanotype IR pinhole made with a pinHolga to the gallery. http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?pic=jhb_ir_c yano092902.jpg John Bolgiano -- ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- We have...become our own thought police; but instead of calling the process by which we limit our own expression of dissent and wonder 'censorship', we call it 'concern for commercial viability'. -David Mamet
RE: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space
I think we all need to stop reading theory altogether. but i just can't help it, it's so interesting. anyway, i just responded to someone's previous email, but i figure i will reiterate. and i hope you all don't think that i'm copping out by making this statement, but in my thought progression with this idea, i've decided to define authentic space by my photographs only. i originally thought to myself 'diners, industry, etc. these things are authentic'. but then i started noticing things that i felt were authentic, but didn't fit into my strict definition. so i've decided to just shoot and print what makes me feel what i feel, and in the end, we will have a more introspective reflection of authentic space. i do feel like a lot of this has to do with class conciousness. class conciousness is something that i've thought about for years. i'm only 19, but since i can remember it's been on my mind. i grew up in an upper middle class environment. relatively privileged. certainly not suffering. not ultra rich. but we were definitely comfortable. when i was about 14 i started noticing the world around me and how most of the people in it certainly lack the privileges which i had so long taken for granted. it made me feel really guitly. that guilt is something i still deal with. what happened was i got into punk rock, which was originally a very working class thing, and i certainly rebelled against my upbringing. when i was 16 i dropped out of school and moved across the country to california in order to abandoned the privilege that i had. i know all of this is so dramatic and blah blah, but i'm going to relate it to authentic space so be patient. so i tried to connect myself to the working class. i tried to connect myself to poverty. i tried to understand what the rest of the world was going through, by living on the streets, basically. since then i have certainly calmed down regarding my ideas and such. i think these things will be hugely reflected when i'm finished with this authentic space thing. because now that i'm letting myself shoot without definition, it will be a study on me, and how i am from the upper middle class, white privileged upbringing, and how i feel that these certain things are authentic. and the more i think about it, the more i think that the reason these things are authentic to me, is because they are something i never really was able to connect with, but i wanted to so desperately. i hope this email wasn't too wishy washy or far fetched. we'll see how things turn out. steve [Original Message] From: Tom Harvey harv...@aracnet.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 10/28/2002 4:09:41 PM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space Steve Bell wrote: Hmm, well let's see. i originally began with the idea of places where people go to reclaim the past. for example, diners. i go to diners all the time, and a friend of mine started talking to me about the idea of authentic space. like, in the 50's diners were kind of this ideal for the future. all stream lined and chrome and neon. now diners are this ideal of the past. this space where people feel like they are part of something authentic. we also talked about how yuppie artist types get apartments in more urban areas, and nouveau bourgoise people buy industrial type buildings and turn them into living spaces so they can feel more conntected to the working class that they've left behind. this is all architectural theory that she had been reading. Well, she should probably quit reading architectural theory! But an interesting line of thinking nonetheless. I am not clear if diners are authentic (storefront restaurants might be more so); if converted warehouses are like -- or not like -- diners (old, scarcity, nostalgia); if old barns, quarries, cars with carburetors . . spaces left over where real work has moved to more modern methods are any more real than what replaces them. But they are more photogenic. I am reminded of Brooks Jensen's photographs (not pinhole) of traditional machine shops and the people who work there. http://www.lenswork.com/mos.htm That's authentic! At least the subject matter is. But are we all, when exploring authentic space or activity, just yuppie artists trying to be connected to the working class? Pinhole photography doesn't seem too proletariat to me. To be clear -- I do not mean to sound critical. It really is an interesting line of thought as I contemplate why I (and others) take pictures at all, what we take pictures of, who we expect to be interested in our pictures (perhaps to the point of purchasing them), and whether critical theory is of any use at all beyond employing college professors -- and prompting discussions like this! (Disclosure: working class upbringing, now a college professor, too old to be a yuppie, too underpaid to qualify as a typical urban professional -- and an urban warehouse district
Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space
i think i kind of began this project with that idea, but as i've progressed, i've decided to really just shoot whatever feels to me authentic space. i used these definitions as a kind of starting point and have let things develop from there. so i'm hoping that when i'm finished it will be less a documentary on authentic space, and more a personal, subjective study on myself and how i see the world. hope that makes sense. steve [Original Message] From: erick...@hickorytech.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 10/28/2002 6:59:18 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space It seems to me that what you are describing is spaces with a history, and a funky history at that. The remembrance of things past, to steal a phrase. - Original Message - From: Steve Bell veracity...@earthlink.net To: Pinhole List pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space So far i've done a lot of shooting in diners and also in thrift stores. i look at thrift stores as a kind of attempt for some people to reclaim this idea of the past. friends of mine go to them looking for vintage type clothing. i go there to buy every old camera in sight (it's really ridiculous, even the broken ones, gotta have those instamatics). i've also done some industrial/urban landscapes. i think i've stopped defining authentic space by other people's standards, and started defining it by my own, which i'm happy about. that was this series of photos becomes documentary, but also very personal. the one thing i'm really struggling with is the process i'm using. you see i'm doing this all for my color photography class, but i think in the end it would be better if the prints were something like pt/pd or maybe even salt prints or something like that. something that is more on the alternative process tip, simply because i think the subject matter would lend itself well to such a look. whatever are everyone elses thoughts on authentic space? steve [Original Message] From: Gregg Kemp gregg@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 10/27/2002 7:26:02 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 06:43 PM, Steve Bell wrote: Hmm, well let's see. i originally began with the idea of places where people go to reclaim the past. for example, diners. i go to diners all the time, and a friend of mine started talking to me about the idea of authentic space. like, in the 50's diners were kind of this ideal for the future. all stream lined and chrome and neon. now diners are this ideal of the past. this space where people feel like they are part of something authentic. we also talked about how yuppie artist types get apartments in more urban areas, and nouveau bourgoise people buy industrial type buildings and turn them into living spaces so they can feel more conntected to the working class that they've left behind. this is all architectural theory that she had been reading. it got me very interested. so i've been shooting authentic space. i started off just doing diners and thrift stores, but i've now started relying more on my instincts, shooting whatever feels like authentic space, rather than defining it by these specific criteria. I find this very interesting Steve - the idea of how the perspective of a place changes over time. What places, or types of places have your instincts taken you to (if you don't mind my asking)? And thank you Rosanne, for asking about the meaning of authentic places. I just assumed I had simply missed out on something else. - Gregg ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion
Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space
So far i've done a lot of shooting in diners and also in thrift stores. i look at thrift stores as a kind of attempt for some people to reclaim this idea of the past. friends of mine go to them looking for vintage type clothing. i go there to buy every old camera in sight (it's really ridiculous, even the broken ones, gotta have those instamatics). i've also done some industrial/urban landscapes. i think i've stopped defining authentic space by other people's standards, and started defining it by my own, which i'm happy about. that was this series of photos becomes documentary, but also very personal. the one thing i'm really struggling with is the process i'm using. you see i'm doing this all for my color photography class, but i think in the end it would be better if the prints were something like pt/pd or maybe even salt prints or something like that. something that is more on the alternative process tip, simply because i think the subject matter would lend itself well to such a look. whatever are everyone elses thoughts on authentic space? steve [Original Message] From: Gregg Kemp gregg@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 10/27/2002 7:26:02 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 06:43 PM, Steve Bell wrote: Hmm, well let's see. i originally began with the idea of places where people go to reclaim the past. for example, diners. i go to diners all the time, and a friend of mine started talking to me about the idea of authentic space. like, in the 50's diners were kind of this ideal for the future. all stream lined and chrome and neon. now diners are this ideal of the past. this space where people feel like they are part of something authentic. we also talked about how yuppie artist types get apartments in more urban areas, and nouveau bourgoise people buy industrial type buildings and turn them into living spaces so they can feel more conntected to the working class that they've left behind. this is all architectural theory that she had been reading. it got me very interested. so i've been shooting authentic space. i started off just doing diners and thrift stores, but i've now started relying more on my instincts, shooting whatever feels like authentic space, rather than defining it by these specific criteria. I find this very interesting Steve - the idea of how the perspective of a place changes over time. What places, or types of places have your instincts taken you to (if you don't mind my asking)? And thank you Rosanne, for asking about the meaning of authentic places. I just assumed I had simply missed out on something else. - Gregg ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
RE: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space
Hmm, well let's see. i originally began with the idea of places where people go to reclaim the past. for example, diners. i go to diners all the time, and a friend of mine started talking to me about the idea of authentic space. like, in the 50's diners were kind of this ideal for the future. all stream lined and chrome and neon. now diners are this ideal of the past. this space where people feel like they are part of something authentic. we also talked about how yuppie artist types get apartments in more urban areas, and nouveau bourgoise people buy industrial type buildings and turn them into living spaces so they can feel more conntected to the working class that they've left behind. this is all architectural theory that she had been reading. it got me very interested. so i've been shooting authentic space. i started off just doing diners and thrift stores, but i've now started relying more on my instincts, shooting whatever feels like authentic space, rather than defining it by these specific criteria. so there you have it. more sociological than truth in pinhole relations of time and space. cheers, steve [Original Message] From: ethereal art ethereal...@mindspring.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 10/27/2002 6:27:58 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space From: Steve Bell veracity...@earthlink.net so after almost a year on this list, i finally made a pinhole camera. it was absolutely necessary for this project i am doing (authentic space) So Steve, define your term authentic space. Inter-dimensional photography? Truth in pinhole relations of time and space? Reality check through a pinhole? ;-) Rosanne ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Back for Pinhole?
Hey everyone, I've another question. I'm really interested in making a pinhole camera with a 4x5 polaroid back. does anyone have any information or tips for me? my main question would be, does it matter how old the 4x5 back is? i've looked on ebay and found some, but they all say 'this is a very old, but working product'. will it still take film? secondly, i'm assuming the best material to make it out of would be wood? also, again any tips would be very welcome. thanks, --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films
Thanks for the advice. in regards to having a lot of the NPH, i use that with my regular holga anyway, so i haven't really commited it, so to speak, to the pinhole holga. i am certainly not attempting to emulate ansel adams. i will be doing my own printing, as i'm presently taking a color photo class. i was recommended to use NPL, so maybe i'll try that. i plan on doing some night color pinhole work, as i feel like this project i'm working on will call for such. in regards to my friends work, he printed them himself. they are something like 16x20 prints, so the color shift at the edges is very apparent. i don't plan on printing so large, possibly only up to 11x14, so maybe it won't be so apparent. i'll post my results when i work everything out. thanks, Steve [Original Message] From: Michael Healy mjhe...@kcnet.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 10/27/2002 1:34:23 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films Steve, if you've got that much NPH, why not just shoot some. See what happens. You've committed yourself to a camera that runs as far from high-end, high quality images as you can get. So push that. Just shoot the stuff. I have not shot NPH, and I haven't shot any color at all in pinhole. All my pinhole work has been in bw. But I have done color night work. My films were NPL, NPS, Reala, all exposed for 10-15 minutes or even more. Results can be gorgeous, even with 10 and 15 minute exposures. I've even used, very long exposures. Those results were weird, and also pretty cool. With night work, you do a lot of bracketing anyhow, so one is going to turn out. Always works that way. It doesn't necessarily look like what you plan, but again, if you're trying to emulate Ansel Adams, pinhole is not exactly your best choice of medium. I would just try it, bracket, then try it again. And either scan yourself or do your own printing. I wouldn't judge the results by the lab's prints. Your friend's problem is hard to address. Are the images from negs? What film, and what conditions? Who printed them, a one-hour shop? One thing about printing your own color is that you can correct (or manipulate) the color locally, using small color-correcting filters like burning/dodging tools. Labs can do that too, but it will cost you, and it's hard to convey explicit instructions from the front desk. Sounds like your friend got a straight print. That sort of thing can be altered in all kinds of ways in the printing process. Mike Healy - Original Message - From: Steve Bell To: Pinhole List Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films Hey Everyone, so after almost a year on this list, i finally made a pinhole camera. it was absolutely necessary for this project i am doing (authentic space), and so i justified taking up schoolwork time to make it (the project is for school, so it works out ok). so i have a question. what color films does everyone use? i'm presently using fuji NPH, as i've got a bunch of it and i've been using it in my holga. oh, i should mention the pinhole camera i made is a pinholga. so i went to fuji's website to check out the reciprocity chart, and they say 'exposure of longer than 16 seconds is not recommended'. so there was no chart, and i'm kind of flying blind, which is kind of fun, but it makes me think there might be a better film for me to be using. so what films do you all use, color-wise, for pinhole photographs? oh yeah, one more question, a friend of mine was showing me his color pinhole shots, and there was a slight magenta shift on the edges of the image, is there any way to correct this? thanks, --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection
[pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films
Hey Everyone, so after almost a year on this list, i finally made a pinhole camera. it was absolutely necessary for this project i am doing (authentic space), and so i justified taking up schoolwork time to make it (the project is for school, so it works out ok). so i have a question. what color films does everyone use? i'm presently using fuji NPH, as i've got a bunch of it and i've been using it in my holga. oh, i should mention the pinhole camera i made is a pinholga. so i went to fuji's website to check out the reciprocity chart, and they say 'exposure of longer than 16 seconds is not recommended'. so there was no chart, and i'm kind of flying blind, which is kind of fun, but it makes me think there might be a better film for me to be using. so what films do you all use, color-wise, for pinhole photographs? oh yeah, one more question, a friend of mine was showing me his color pinhole shots, and there was a slight magenta shift on the edges of the image, is there any way to correct this? thanks, --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #776 - 12 msgs
Would the title be: 'Primitive Photography: A Guide to Making Cameras, Lenses, and Calotypes'? Steve [Original Message] From: MARK POWER mpo...@coventry.ac.uk To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 10/13/2002 9:33:20 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #776 - 12 msgs --__--__-- Also does anyone know of any designs for making a 4x5 pinhole camera, or have any advice I don't want to buyone, but I want one that produces good quality images and is reliable. Ben, There's also a book which shows how to make large format cameras which could obviously be scaled down a bit to your requirements. The book also shows how to make various development equipment. Unfortunately, although I have I have it at home, I can't for the life remember the title etc. but it's available from Focal Press. Their web site should have it. If you're interested, e mail me and I'll get the details. Regards, Mark --__--__-- --__--__-- Anyone has tried converting a 35 mm camera to pinhole ? Zami, I've converted quite a few too, including a Zenit and a Pentax. I did so for ease of film carriage and the for experimentation of film as you suggest. I've used brass, fixed with gaffers tape, but also very cheap tin foil which has never failed me. I like to keep it basic! I've had some creditable results and, occasionally, some very good ones. I'd like to have a crack at some wild types of film but expense prohibits. I've used the more expensive films but more often used out of date and no brand film from cheapo £ shops. Works just as well. As for pinhole size - I just guessed. Regards, Mark --__--__-- ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
[pinhole-discussion] (OT) Enlarger help?
Hey everyone, I know another off topic post, but it's kind of on topic, right? i mean, enlargers are often times used with pinholed negs! anyway, my question is, can anyone give me some advice regarding enlargers? i'm building a darkroom in my basement. I'm not exactly sure where to begin when it comes to enlargers. i will be enlarging both color and black and white 35mm, 120, and hopefully other medium format negs. can anyone let me know what their favorites are. i am on somewhat of a budget, but i can afford a semi expensive piece of equiptment. thanks in advance, Steve --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
Re: [pinhole-discussion] (OT) Scanning Slides
Going digital is a great idea, unfortunately i've not got $5000 to spare to pick up a nice camera. I've already purchased the slide film, though i do have a bunch of negative film too. hopefully i will be able to persuade the security people to hand check my bag. i do plan on using the slide film, so the question remains, where can i get it scanned? cheers, Steve [Original Message] From: William Erickson erick...@hickorytech.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 7/13/2002 1:05:45 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] (OT) Scanning Slides Why use slide film? Use negative film and have the negs put on a photo CD. Slide film can be treacherous if you're not used to it, because of the narrow exposure latitude.If you need it for publication purposes, find a friend with a 35mm negative scanner and get them to scan your slides. You can also get it done commercially, but it costs more. You may or may not get the guy at the airport xray machine to had examine it, so use less than 400 ISO film. Or go digital and solve all your problems at once. - Original Message - From: Steve Bell veracity...@earthlink.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] (OT) Scanning Slides Hey everyone, i know this is off topic, but i figure you all may be of some help. Tomorrow i leave from Baltimore to go to Belize for two weeks. A group of students and a couple of teachers are going down to a village called Big Falls. Our purpose is to organize and run a day camp for kids there. We will be educating them as well as playing games, etc. to help them keep learning during the summer when school is out. The village is impoverished and education there isn't extremely good. Although, the teachers they have are very passionate individuals. We will be bringing them school supplies as well, to help their school year this coming semester. So, as i'm a photography student, i have been one of two from our group who have been chosen to be in charge of photography(the other happens to be a woman who has her BA in photo already, so i hope to learn a lot from her). It's important that we document it well so we can better publicize it in the future, i.e. to make pamphlets, etc to solicit donations. So i've decided to use slide film, which i haven't much experience with. i have enough experience to use it adequately, and i figured slide film would be a good choice. Therein lies my question. I haven't a scanner, and i will certainly want these slides scanned, so where do i go? I'm pretty sure Kinkos doesn't have slide scanning capabilities. are there places that i can have this done? Also, any tips on travelling anyone might want to give me will be greatly appreciated. I do have some 1600 film in my bag (fuji Neopan 1600, to be precise, i figured some black and white won't hurt), and i will certainly want that to be hand inspected. Hopefully i won't have too much trouble. please excuse me for the long, off topic email, but from all of the responses i've read on this list, everyone seems to be very helpful and caring, so i figured you all would have some good advice. thanks for your time. cheers, Steve ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
[pinhole-discussion] (OT) Scanning Slides
Hey everyone, i know this is off topic, but i figure you all may be of some help. Tomorrow i leave from Baltimore to go to Belize for two weeks. A group of students and a couple of teachers are going down to a village called Big Falls. Our purpose is to organize and run a day camp for kids there. We will be educating them as well as playing games, etc. to help them keep learning during the summer when school is out. The village is impoverished and education there isn't extremely good. Although, the teachers they have are very passionate individuals. We will be bringing them school supplies as well, to help their school year this coming semester. So, as i'm a photography student, i have been one of two from our group who have been chosen to be in charge of photography(the other happens to be a woman who has her BA in photo already, so i hope to learn a lot from her). It's important that we document it well so we can better publicize it in the future, i.e. to make pamphlets, etc to solicit donations. So i've decided to use slide film, which i haven't much experience with. i have enough experience to use it adequately, and i figured slide film would be a good choice. Therein lies my question. I haven't a scanner, and i will certainly want these slides scanned, so where do i go? I'm pretty sure Kinkos doesn't have slide scanning capabilities. are there places that i can have this done? Also, any tips on travelling anyone might want to give me will be greatly appreciated. I do have some 1600 film in my bag (fuji Neopan 1600, to be precise, i figured some black and white won't hurt), and i will certainly want that to be hand inspected. Hopefully i won't have too much trouble. please excuse me for the long, off topic email, but from all of the responses i've read on this list, everyone seems to be very helpful and caring, so i figured you all would have some good advice. thanks for your time. cheers, Steve
Re: [pinhole-discussion] longggggg exposure upon a child
I went to the link, but there were no images linked from the page. i would really like to see these, anyone know what's wrong with the site? or my computer? steve [Original Message] From: dalf...@aol.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 4/21/2002 8:05:14 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] longg exposure upon a child In a message dated 4/21/02 7:25:19 PM Central Daylight Time, ethereal...@mindspring.com writes: Hi Dennis I think you are referring to http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/ and go to Image 63 by Annalee Bloomfield. She did the all night photo of her invisible self. And Image 76 by Gregg Kemp, the Electric Picnic is the picnic. Rosanne Ah yes, thats the ones, much thanks Roseanne, I knew someone here would recall the photographer(s) better than I would, but the images were power filled ones for me, nonetheless... Dennis ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net / http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
[pinhole-discussion] Film Storage
Hey, I've a question hopefully some of you will be able to answer. Recently i've realized that buying film in bulk is a whole lot cheaper than buying individual rolls(i know, this is more a 35mm question, than pinhole, but it is pertanent). i'm sure you've all realized this a long time ago, but i'm young, i have an excuse. so i was wondering what the best way to store film is. should i freeze it? any help would be appreciated. thanks, --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net / http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened.--Michael Lydon
Re: [pinhole-discussion] The Wyndham Montreal Hotel Giant Pinhole Camera Proj...
i searched and found a site that has 4 prints of his. quite nice, i might add: http://www.robertkleingallery.com/contemporary/morr/morr.htm Steve [Original Message] From: dalf...@aol.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 4/17/2002 10:54:30 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] The Wyndham Montreal Hotel Giant Pinhole Camera Proj... Way to go.. sounds like a wa cool idea.. Not to rain in your creative parade Guy. but more as an adjunctive thought. There is a photographer who takes a slightly different approach in that he seals off a room, be it a hotel room , a conference room, what have you , and leaves a small aperature for a pinhole , , and records the inverted image projected upon the walls complete with whatever furniture is there too, He sets up a glassed camera opposite the image that appears projected. he has done rooms in Manhattan,, a hotel room in Las Vegas , a conference room somewhere, I forget off hand,.. If memory serves me well, I believe his glassed camera exposures are in the neighborhood of 8 hours , he simply trips the shutter and locks it on B, then leaves the room for that extended time.. Should anyone want to see his works, or have, his name is Abelardo Morrell . I want to say I have seen a couple of his images in a gallery website, just where , I cant recall at this moment , but I have seen his works in galleries for the most part, should I come across the URL site with his pictures , I will post the URL here . ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net / http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Epson Perfection 1250 Photo FlatbedScanner
http://www.virtualtraveller.org/epson2450.htm Check out this link. it has a nice review and isn't related to the company. Steve [Original Message] From: ragowaring ragowar...@btinternet.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: 3/21/2002 6:51:44 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Epson Perfection 1250 Photo FlatbedScanner I am thinking of getting an Epson Perfection 2450. Although more expensive, it does give greater possibilities particularly regarding negatives and slides. With the its resolution you can enlarge four times without loosing detail. This is a very big plus, particularly with 4x5 film where the prints start to approach a decent size. The printer is also very important. Alexis on 21/3/02 1:06 am, Michael Georgoff (SAL-US) at michael_georg...@trendmicro.com wrote: Anyone have any direct experience with an Epson Perfection 1250 Photo Flatbed Scanner? It comes with a 35mm Slide Adapter Unit which is basically a small handheld light source. (Sure, I'd like to get the Perfection 1650 Photo Scanner, but that's twice the cost. The 1250 is admittedly the low end... ) Most of what I want to scan is flat relfective stuff like photo prints, but I do have slides and negatives that I'd like to have the ability to scan. If you have experience with an Epson Perfection 1250 Photo Flatbed Scanner, let me know. Thanks, Michael Georgoff San Jose, CA ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net / http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
[pinhole-discussion] Favorite Cameras?
Hey Everyone, I haven't yet begun to construct my first pinhole camera. I'm so busy with school work and everything. I have a question for you all. What is your favorite type of pinhole camera? i know that there are tons of ways to construct one, so i'm interested in hearing what you all use. I've got an old Minolta XG-1 and i've been thinking about maybe converting it into a little pinhole camera, any tips? Sorry for the relatively general questions. thanks, Steve
Re: [pinhole-discussion] check my site!
Absolutely beautiful prints! I've just signed up to this list and this is the first email i've recieved and i must say its a warm welcome! I thought i would introduce myself. My name is Steve Bell, I'm 19 and live in Baltimore, Md, USA. I'm a photography student at Catonsville Community College. I've been interested in photography for years, and just recently have decided to really dedicate my time and money towards it. I haven't done very much pinhole photography at all(only once a few years back), but i really like the idea behind it. the simplicity and the constructive aspects really get my heart pumping. i'm hoping to learn something from this list, and maybe someone will learn something from me! who knows. i suppose that's it! thanks, Steve Please take a look! http://hem.passagen.se/pinhole /peter wiklund stockholm, sweden ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net / http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective --- Smash the stagnant paradigms of contemporary existence!
