i think i kind of began this project with that idea, but as i've progressed, i've decided to really just shoot whatever feels to me authentic space.
i used these definitions as a kind of starting point and have let things develop from there. so i'm hoping that when i'm finished it will be less a documentary on authentic space, and more a personal, subjective study on myself and how i see the world. hope that makes sense. steve > [Original Message] > From: <erick...@hickorytech.net> > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > Date: 10/28/2002 6:59:18 AM > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space > > It seems to me that what you are describing is spaces with a history, and a > funky history at that. The remembrance of things past, to steal a phrase. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Bell" <veracity...@earthlink.net> > To: "Pinhole List" <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:00 AM > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space > > > > So far i've done a lot of shooting in diners and also in thrift stores. i > > look at thrift stores as a kind of attempt for some people to reclaim this > > idea of the past. friends of mine go to them looking for vintage type > > clothing. i go there to buy every old camera in sight (it's really > > ridiculous, even the broken ones, gotta have those instamatics). i've also > > done some industrial/urban landscapes. i think i've stopped defining > > authentic space by other people's standards, and started defining it by my > > own, which i'm happy about. that was this series of photos becomes > > documentary, but also very personal. > > > > the one thing i'm really struggling with is the process i'm using. you see > > i'm doing this all for my color photography class, but i think in the end > > it would be better if the prints were something like pt/pd or maybe even > > salt prints or something like that. something that is more on the > > alternative process tip, simply because i think the subject matter would > > lend itself well to such a look. > > > > whatever are everyone elses thoughts on authentic space? > > > > steve > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Gregg Kemp <gregg@p at ???????> > > > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > > > Date: 10/27/2002 7:26:02 PM > > > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 06:43 PM, Steve Bell wrote: > > > > > > > Hmm, well let's see. > > > > > > > > i originally began with the idea of places where people go to reclaim > > > > the > > > > past. for example, diners. i go to diners all the time, and a friend > of > > > > mine started talking to me about the idea of authentic space. like, in > > > > the > > > > 50's diners were kind of this ideal for the future. all stream lined > > > > and > > > > chrome and neon. now diners are this ideal of the past. this space > > > > where > > > > people feel like they are part of something authentic. we also talked > > > > about > > > > how yuppie artist types get apartments in more urban areas, and > nouveau > > > > bourgoise people buy industrial type buildings and turn them into > > > > living > > > > spaces so they can feel more conntected to the working class that > > > > they've > > > > left behind. this is all architectural theory that she had been > > > > reading. > > > > > > > > it got me very interested. so i've been shooting authentic space. i > > > > started > > > > off just doing diners and thrift stores, but i've now started relying > > > > more > > > > on my instincts, shooting whatever feels like authentic space, rather > > > > than > > > > defining it by these specific criteria. > > > > > > I find this very interesting Steve - the idea of how the perspective of > > > a place changes over time. What places, or types of places have your > > > instincts taken you to (if you don't mind my asking)? > > > > > > And thank you Rosanne, for asking about the meaning of "authentic" > > > places. I just assumed I had simply missed out on something else. > > > > > > - Gregg > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? > > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > > http://www.???????/discussion/ > > > > > > --- Steve Bell > > --- veracity...@earthlink.net > > --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / > > http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection > > --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be > > achieved within the capitalist structure, is > > an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, > > deceive those whom it oppresses...So > > effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of > > optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly > > hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of > > youthful frustration, has been ignored > > and softened. --Michael Lydon > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???????/discussion/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???????/discussion/ --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
