Re: [pinhole-discussion] Camera backs
Guy, Thanks for the quick response. I went to the website and found the bellows repair kit, only $12.50! I should be up and running real soon. John
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Camera backs
John, I used a "Bellows Patch Sealer" kit from Bostick & Sullivan http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/ It works really well. You can either patch tiny holes or worn out creases by applying several layers of the sealer. Or you can patch larger holes, since the kit contains also some patching material. I can't remember how much I paid but it is relatively inexpensive. I tried to look in their catalogue but could'nt find it. You will probably have to email them. They are very friendly people. Cheers, Guy jmm1...@aol.com wrote: > Guy, > What did you use to patch the holes in your bellows? I have a Scovill > > Waterbury which takes 5x8 plates or film and the lens is removable, > making a > great pinhole camera. > > John McAdam
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Guy, What did you use to patch the holes in your bellows? I have a Scovill Waterbury which takes 5x8 plates or film and the lens is removable, making a great pinhole camera. John McAdam
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"G.Penate" wrote: > I said to the guy I'll give you > $15 CDN and to my delight he answered: "DEAL". Well done! > > BTW, the same day I bought an 11x14 back! unfortunatelly the guy I bought the > 8x10 from 6 years ago, had purchased the two 11x14 holders the seller had, he > told he payed $90CDN each!!. Good price!! I'm pretty well done patching all the tiny holes in the bellows of my 11x14 view camera. I still have to tighten up the back to make it perfectly light tight and I'm off an running with the camera. If the snow finally melts down, I'll get out and shoot! It really a BIG camera! I only have 1 holder for the moment (plus parts to make one, perhaps 2 more), which is not much if I go out some distance away from my darkroom. I see holders every once in a while on eBay. They sell anywhere from US$100 to $200. > Go to your nearest home improvement center and buy "T" nuts, this is what they > look like: > http://members.home.com/penate/nut.GIF > If you can't find them, I could buy some I send them to you. > I've never seen one before, but I'll print the image and bring it to the hardware store and ask for some. Many thanks for the info. If I can't find any, perhaps I'll call on you then. P.S. There is a hight probability that I show some work at Eight Elm in May during Contact 2001" I'll know better by the end of this week. Perhaps we could get together with Tina. I suppose that Lonsdale Gallery will have Pinhole work on their walls as usual. Cheers, Guy
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- Original Message - From: "Guy Glorieux" > > If you are not extremely "handy", the best is to buy the actual backs of > > cameras. In the past and at photo fairs I have purchased an 8x10 metal back > > w/o GG for $5 and very recently a 5x7 metal back with GG for $10 > > Hm. This must have been some years ago. Or you have been particularly > lucky, Guillermo. It seems that on eBay, these things sell for something more > like US$100. The 8x10 I bought 6 years ago, I payed $10 Canadian and included a well used but light tight 8x10 film holder! I think that could qualify as my best bargain-purchase ever!!The 5x7 I bought in January/2001 is not that far though. I asked how much and the guy said: I don't know, my uncle is the owner and he just left for a moment, pls comeback. I came back twice more and the uncle still wasn't there, I cameback the last time before leaving the photo fair and still no uncle but this time there was a price tag fot the 5x7 back, the guy said "the price is $20 CDN", I was absolutely surpriced, I was willing to pay up to $80. I said to the guy I'll give you $15 CDN and to my delight he answered: "DEAL". BTW, the same day I bought an 11x14 back! unfortunatelly the guy I bought the 8x10 from 6 years ago, had purchased the two 11x14 holders the seller had, he told he payed $90CDN each!!. > I do have an 8x10 back that looks vey much like the one you show. It is > installed on a homemade pinhole box in wood. Looks really nice. I like the way > you use a washer as a focussing tool before putting on the real pinhole or > zoneplate. I will most likely do something similar to my camera. 8x10 film is > not cheap and it's really nice to be able to frame your image before shooting. In case it was not obvious, I glued a square flat magnet at the back of the camera, the metal washer is then magnetically held in place, centered on the hole or right at one corner of the square. With the pinhole, you just glue it to another smaller piece of flat magnetic material that you place on top of the hole and held magnetically in place -of course-. > What I find difficult is to fit a nut securely on the camera to connect to the > screw on a tripod. Have you found a good way to handle that? Go to your nearest home improvement center and buy "T" nuts, this is what they look like: http://members.home.com/penate/nut.GIF If you can't find them, I could buy some I send them to you. Guillermo
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"G.Penate" wrote: > If you are not extremely "handy", the best is to buy the actual backs of > cameras. In the past and at photo fairs I have purchased an 8x10 metal back > w/o GG for $5 and very recently a 5x7 metal back with GG for $10 Hm. This must have been some years ago. Or you have been particularly lucky, Guillermo. It seems that on eBay, these things sell for something more like US$100. I do have an 8x10 back that looks vey much like the one you show. It is installed on a homemade pinhole box in wood. Looks really nice. I like the way you use a washer as a focussing tool before putting on the real pinhole or zoneplate. I will most likely do something similar to my camera. 8x10 film is not cheap and it's really nice to be able to frame your image before shooting. What I find difficult is to fit a nut securely on the camera to connect to the screw on a tripod. Have you found a good way to handle that? Cheers, Guy P.S. I noticed that someone has a Robert Boudreau print for sale on eBay (11x14 print, contact print from negative, from glass). He is a great photographer from Ottawa who is represented by Jane Crokin in Toronto. Have you seen any of his work? Really nice work. Reserve price for the print is US$1300. Hmmm... I wonder if it will sell?
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Camera backs
Metal picture frame kits have four pieces for the sides and hardware to hold them together, usually plus the small springs. I've also made wooden boxes and just either screwed or epoxied old 4x5 roll film adapters. You can also make a wooden support to which you attach at the front whatever you've put together and at the back, either permanently or with tape, a readyload holder or polaroid holder. The pre-anniversary model speed graphic has a perfect 4x4" lens board that you could do a lot with. They come with stops on the rails that limit bellows extension, but if you remove the stops you can get 12" extension. You're limited to a minimum of 3" extension. - Original Message - From: Colin Talcroft To: Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Camera backs > --- William Erickson > wrote: > > In addition to using the holders, you'll have to > > devise a method for > > securing them to your camera in a light tight > > fashion. I build wooden boxes > > and use a wood pressure plate sprung with the > > springy things you get in > > metal frame hardware kits. > > What exactly do you mean by "metal frame hardware > kits"? I've been looking for a way to create a > universal film holder for odd cameras. That is, I > enjoy building strange pinhole and zone plate "front > ends" but find the convenience of being able to use > roll film or my Polaroid 4x5 film holder for the "back > end" almost irresistable. It would be great to have a > reliable way to create a device for the back ends with > the usual sort of spring mechanism that holds a > Polaroid film holder (or the adapters that allow a 4x5 > camera to take 120 film--mine is made by Horseman) and > then reliably attach it to front ends made of wood or > cardboard or plastic or whatever interesting stuff is > at hand. > > Does anyone have any ideas? I wonder if my question is > comprehensible. > > To give one example, I have a small wooden front end > that I love (Tina, this is the camera I used for the > Sebastopol interiors), but use it less than I would > like to because I have so much trouble securing it to > a back end. I have used weather stripping, but that > squashes, I get light leaks (sometimes not), and it > slips around unless secured with big, awkward metal > clamps that make it impossible to use the tripod mount > I put on the bottom. I'd love to be able to just pop > holders onto the back of this thing. Here is a picture > of the front end, if anyone cares to look. You can se > the weather stripping at the bottom. > > http://www.sonic.net/~talcroft/camera.jpg > > Any help appreciated. I guess the long and the short > of it is, I want to take pictures, not fool with > rubber bands and clips and clamps > > Colin > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Camera backs
I have 2 pinhole cameras on wich I used Graphic backs. The great thing with the graphic back is that you can use roll fil or sheet film. They are on the market if you look around if you can find a photo fle market near you you might find one a a good price allso lookaroud for a beat up old crown graphic James > >> It would be great to have a reliable way to create a device for the back ends >> with the usual sort of spring mechanism that holds a Polaroid film holder (or >> the adapters that allow a 4x5 camera to take 120 film--mine is made by >> Horseman) and then reliably attach it to front ends made of wood or cardboard >> or plastic or whatever interesting stuff is at hand. Does anyone have any >> ideas? I wonder if my question is comprehensible. Another type of back you see from time to time at > eBay are graflok backs from Graphic cameras, those can be used with your > > Another idea would be to buy a inexpensive (compared to a Horseman) Graphic 23 > or 22 roll adapter and glue it with epoxy at the back of a pinhole camera. > > Guillermo > > > > > ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing > list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Camera backs
- Original Message - From: "Colin Talcroft" > What exactly do you mean by "metal frame hardware > kits"? I think it is: The spring you insert at the back of a aluminum frame and used to keep the mat/picture pressed against the glass of the frame. > It would be great to have a > reliable way to create a device for the back ends with > the usual sort of spring mechanism that holds a > Polaroid film holder (or the adapters that allow a 4x5 > camera to take 120 film--mine is made by Horseman) and > then reliably attach it to front ends made of wood or > cardboard or plastic or whatever interesting stuff is > at hand. > Does anyone have any ideas? I wonder if my question is > comprehensible. Absolutely! If you are not extremely "handy", the best is to buy the actual backs of cameras. In the past and at photo fairs I have purchased an 8x10 metal back w/o GG for $5 and very recently a 5x7 metal back with GG for $10 This is the 8x10 back: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/back.JPG This is the wooden box a friend made for me: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/tipod.JPG This is how back and box looks when together: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/camera.JPG minus GG it looks like this: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/backback.JPG This is the plastic GG together with a plastic fresnel on top: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/fresnel.JPG And finally this is the front that accept regular 67mm filters: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/filter.JPG That pinhole (a washer actually) is my viewing "lens"!! I compose the image using it and then place the actual taking lens pinhole before I make the exposure. BTW, before my friend made the wooden box for me, I used to just duct tape the back at the back of card board boxes. As for the 5x7 back, I just bought some film holders for it and will be making a box to attach it to. 4x5 (like this http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1226405490 ) and 5x7 backs are seen frequently at eBay. Usually you see 4x5 and 5x7 reduccion backs for 8x10 cameras. Another type of back you see from time to time at eBay are graflok backs from Graphic cameras, those can be used with your Horseman roll adapter, I think. > To give one example, I have a small wooden front end > that I love (Tina, this is the camera I used for the > Sebastopol interiors), but use it less than I would > like to because I have so much trouble securing it to > a back end. What kind of back end do you have: > I'd love to be able to just pop > holders onto the back of this thing. Here is a picture > of the front end, if anyone cares to look. You can se > the weather stripping at the bottom. Nice looking front end Colin! It looks as if the back is just a flat piece of wood with a rectangular opening. In any case, you should be able to construct something similar to what Bender does at the back of the Pinhole Camera Kit he sells, take a look here: http://www.benderphoto.com/pinkitr.htm As you can see, it is nothing fancy and the spring action of the wire should keep the holder securely in place. A much less fancy approach would be to substitute that spring wire with a rubber band. Another idea would be to buy a inexpensive (compared to a Horseman) Graphic 23 or 22 roll adapter and glue it with epoxy at the back of a pinhole camera. Guillermo
