Re: [PLUG] Good video capture card

[Nat Taylor]

huh, the OBS forums has a link to the
https://www.elgato.com/en/gaming/game-capture-hd60 which says it takes
unencrypted hdmi, that should work, it's a little cheaper than the DHgate
IPTV solutions I posted earlier, although I still think that's a slick way
to go about it.   The blackmagic intensity is more expensive than the IPTV
solutions mentioned earlier.  I don't know about performance.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:

> By way if you need to get rid of the HDCP here is the device, still on good
> ol'
> Amazon...
> https://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Powered-Splitter-1080P-Model/dp/B004F9LVXC
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > I am actually using OBS-Studio, we are feeding a streaming service, and I
> > am
> > using OBS-Studio as the interface from the A/V system. I have a HDMI
> output
> > S-Video, and composit plus audio to play with. I would like to use the
> > HDMI out
> > and feed it into a HDMI input let OBS-Studio do it's thing (that part
> work
> > we have
> > great video and audio on YouTube when CrudCast does not drop the ball. I
> > have
> > to look into that because they are paying good money for that connection.
> > But
> > that is another story, MTR shows some funnies down stream from us.
> >
> > I just need to get that video stream into the OBS-Studio computer and
> from
> > there
> > I am good. I have tested it with USB cams at 1080P plus audio, it sounds
> > and
> > looks good. This is a live stream so need it to be as near as possible to
> > real time.
> >
> > All the parts are working just have to get the bits from the older system
> > into the
> > OBS-Studio system. Turns out the DVD player receives the A/V stream and
> it
> > puts it on the HDMI output port so I figured that would be the
> > quickest/cleanest
> > way to get it from one machine to the other.
> >
> > I saw the page about MythTV, I do not think I will have any issues with
> > the HDCP
> > on this one, besides I have a little box that strips it out, and since we
> > are not
> > running anything that is DRM  protected there is no issue there. I use
> the
> > little
> > box to plug a HDMI to video converter into a regular monitor, without the
> > box
> > the monitor does not see the video stream coming from something that has
> > DRM
> > on it, but once the box is in place I can view it on the monitor just
> fine.
> >
> > I am hoping that they see the qualities in OBS-Studio, it is a lot more
> > powerful
> > than the stack of video gear that they have now. I figure that if I can
> > start out
> > this way I can ease it in little by little.
> >
> > They have already asked about using the OBS machine to do some other
> mixing
> > I may have to get a frame grabber card for some older cameras, but I we
> are
> > trying to get it all to go 1080P, so need to replace several cameras, and
> > in the
> > end projectors. Monitors are all HD, so we are good there. Old console is
> > still
> > 4:3, that is what is making OBS-Studio attractive.
> >
> > I figure if I can just find a card with two fulldux HDMI ports on it that
> > would be
> > a good start. (try to keep cost down if can)
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:
> >
> >> Here are 2 of the devices mentioned for sale on DHgate:
> >> http://www.dhgate.com/product/mine-mv-e1002-hd-video-encoder
> >> -h-264-hdmi/373348863.html#s1-0-1b;searl|3343559327
> >> http://www.dhgate.com/product/v-receivers-radio-tv-broadcast
> >> ing-equipment/374514031.html#s1-4-1b;searl|4226391069
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:
> >>
> >> > The IPTV solution would be pretty slick, you could use VLC to write it
> >> to
> >> > a file, or whatever other software should support an mpegts stream
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Nat Taylor 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Here is some useful information: https://www.mytht
> >> >> v.org/wiki/Video_capture_card#Digital_Capture_Cards
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chuck Hast 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Folks,
> >> >>> I need to capture video/ from a video system. This is the common
> >> stream
> >> >>> off
> >> >>> of a switcher, it can be pulled from a HDMI port (probably the best)
> >> or
> >> >>> there is
> >> >>> RGB and audio, and I believe there is S-Video too.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Any suggestions as to what is a good device at a good price? This
> >> will of
> >> >>> course
> >> >>> be on a Linux box. It is Ubuntu Mate 16.04.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> >> >>> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better.
> >> >>> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on.
> >> >>> ___
> >> >>> PLUG mailing list
> >> >>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org
> >> >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> 

Re: [PLUG] Good video capture card

[Chuck Hast]

By way if you need to get rid of the HDCP here is the device, still on good
ol'
Amazon...
https://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Powered-Splitter-1080P-Model/dp/B004F9LVXC


On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:

> I am actually using OBS-Studio, we are feeding a streaming service, and I
> am
> using OBS-Studio as the interface from the A/V system. I have a HDMI output
> S-Video, and composit plus audio to play with. I would like to use the
> HDMI out
> and feed it into a HDMI input let OBS-Studio do it's thing (that part work
> we have
> great video and audio on YouTube when CrudCast does not drop the ball. I
> have
> to look into that because they are paying good money for that connection.
> But
> that is another story, MTR shows some funnies down stream from us.
>
> I just need to get that video stream into the OBS-Studio computer and from
> there
> I am good. I have tested it with USB cams at 1080P plus audio, it sounds
> and
> looks good. This is a live stream so need it to be as near as possible to
> real time.
>
> All the parts are working just have to get the bits from the older system
> into the
> OBS-Studio system. Turns out the DVD player receives the A/V stream and it
> puts it on the HDMI output port so I figured that would be the
> quickest/cleanest
> way to get it from one machine to the other.
>
> I saw the page about MythTV, I do not think I will have any issues with
> the HDCP
> on this one, besides I have a little box that strips it out, and since we
> are not
> running anything that is DRM  protected there is no issue there. I use the
> little
> box to plug a HDMI to video converter into a regular monitor, without the
> box
> the monitor does not see the video stream coming from something that has
> DRM
> on it, but once the box is in place I can view it on the monitor just fine.
>
> I am hoping that they see the qualities in OBS-Studio, it is a lot more
> powerful
> than the stack of video gear that they have now. I figure that if I can
> start out
> this way I can ease it in little by little.
>
> They have already asked about using the OBS machine to do some other mixing
> I may have to get a frame grabber card for some older cameras, but I we are
> trying to get it all to go 1080P, so need to replace several cameras, and
> in the
> end projectors. Monitors are all HD, so we are good there. Old console is
> still
> 4:3, that is what is making OBS-Studio attractive.
>
> I figure if I can just find a card with two fulldux HDMI ports on it that
> would be
> a good start. (try to keep cost down if can)
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:
>
>> Here are 2 of the devices mentioned for sale on DHgate:
>> http://www.dhgate.com/product/mine-mv-e1002-hd-video-encoder
>> -h-264-hdmi/373348863.html#s1-0-1b;searl|3343559327
>> http://www.dhgate.com/product/v-receivers-radio-tv-broadcast
>> ing-equipment/374514031.html#s1-4-1b;searl|4226391069
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> > The IPTV solution would be pretty slick, you could use VLC to write it
>> to
>> > a file, or whatever other software should support an mpegts stream
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here is some useful information: https://www.mytht
>> >> v.org/wiki/Video_capture_card#Digital_Capture_Cards
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Folks,
>> >>> I need to capture video/ from a video system. This is the common
>> stream
>> >>> off
>> >>> of a switcher, it can be pulled from a HDMI port (probably the best)
>> or
>> >>> there is
>> >>> RGB and audio, and I believe there is S-Video too.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any suggestions as to what is a good device at a good price? This
>> will of
>> >>> course
>> >>> be on a Linux box. It is Ubuntu Mate 16.04.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
>> >>> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better.
>> >>> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on.
>> >>> ___
>> >>> PLUG mailing list
>> >>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org
>> >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> ___
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>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better.
> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on.
>
>
>


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Re: [PLUG] Good video capture card

[Chuck Hast]

I am actually using OBS-Studio, we are feeding a streaming service, and I am
using OBS-Studio as the interface from the A/V system. I have a HDMI output
S-Video, and composit plus audio to play with. I would like to use the HDMI
out
and feed it into a HDMI input let OBS-Studio do it's thing (that part work
we have
great video and audio on YouTube when CrudCast does not drop the ball. I
have
to look into that because they are paying good money for that connection.
But
that is another story, MTR shows some funnies down stream from us.

I just need to get that video stream into the OBS-Studio computer and from
there
I am good. I have tested it with USB cams at 1080P plus audio, it sounds and
looks good. This is a live stream so need it to be as near as possible to
real time.

All the parts are working just have to get the bits from the older system
into the
OBS-Studio system. Turns out the DVD player receives the A/V stream and it
puts it on the HDMI output port so I figured that would be the
quickest/cleanest
way to get it from one machine to the other.

I saw the page about MythTV, I do not think I will have any issues with the
HDCP
on this one, besides I have a little box that strips it out, and since we
are not
running anything that is DRM  protected there is no issue there. I use the
little
box to plug a HDMI to video converter into a regular monitor, without the
box
the monitor does not see the video stream coming from something that has DRM
on it, but once the box is in place I can view it on the monitor just fine.

I am hoping that they see the qualities in OBS-Studio, it is a lot more
powerful
than the stack of video gear that they have now. I figure that if I can
start out
this way I can ease it in little by little.

They have already asked about using the OBS machine to do some other mixing
I may have to get a frame grabber card for some older cameras, but I we are
trying to get it all to go 1080P, so need to replace several cameras, and
in the
end projectors. Monitors are all HD, so we are good there. Old console is
still
4:3, that is what is making OBS-Studio attractive.

I figure if I can just find a card with two fulldux HDMI ports on it that
would be
a good start. (try to keep cost down if can)


On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:

> Here are 2 of the devices mentioned for sale on DHgate:
> http://www.dhgate.com/product/mine-mv-e1002-hd-video-
> encoder-h-264-hdmi/373348863.html#s1-0-1b;searl|3343559327
> http://www.dhgate.com/product/v-receivers-radio-tv-broadcasting-equipment/
> 374514031.html#s1-4-1b;searl|4226391069
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:
>
> > The IPTV solution would be pretty slick, you could use VLC to write it to
> > a file, or whatever other software should support an mpegts stream
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:
> >
> >> Here is some useful information: https://www.mytht
> >> v.org/wiki/Video_capture_card#Digital_Capture_Cards
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Folks,
> >>> I need to capture video/ from a video system. This is the common stream
> >>> off
> >>> of a switcher, it can be pulled from a HDMI port (probably the best) or
> >>> there is
> >>> RGB and audio, and I believe there is S-Video too.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions as to what is a good device at a good price? This will
> of
> >>> course
> >>> be on a Linux box. It is Ubuntu Mate 16.04.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> >>> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better.
> >>> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on.
> >>> ___
> >>> PLUG mailing list
> >>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org
> >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Good video capture card

[Nat Taylor]

Here are 2 of the devices mentioned for sale on DHgate:
http://www.dhgate.com/product/mine-mv-e1002-hd-video-encoder-h-264-hdmi/373348863.html#s1-0-1b;searl|3343559327
http://www.dhgate.com/product/v-receivers-radio-tv-broadcasting-equipment/374514031.html#s1-4-1b;searl|4226391069

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:

> The IPTV solution would be pretty slick, you could use VLC to write it to
> a file, or whatever other software should support an mpegts stream
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:
>
>> Here is some useful information: https://www.mytht
>> v.org/wiki/Video_capture_card#Digital_Capture_Cards
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>> I need to capture video/ from a video system. This is the common stream
>>> off
>>> of a switcher, it can be pulled from a HDMI port (probably the best) or
>>> there is
>>> RGB and audio, and I believe there is S-Video too.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions as to what is a good device at a good price? This will of
>>> course
>>> be on a Linux box. It is Ubuntu Mate 16.04.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
>>> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better.
>>> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on.
>>> ___
>>> PLUG mailing list
>>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org
>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [PLUG] Good video capture card

[Nat Taylor]

The IPTV solution would be pretty slick, you could use VLC to write it to a
file, or whatever other software should support an mpegts stream

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Nat Taylor  wrote:

> Here is some useful information: https://www.
> mythtv.org/wiki/Video_capture_card#Digital_Capture_Cards
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>> I need to capture video/ from a video system. This is the common stream
>> off
>> of a switcher, it can be pulled from a HDMI port (probably the best) or
>> there is
>> RGB and audio, and I believe there is S-Video too.
>>
>> Any suggestions as to what is a good device at a good price? This will of
>> course
>> be on a Linux box. It is Ubuntu Mate 16.04.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
>> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better.
>> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on.
>> ___
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Re: [PLUG] Good video capture card

[Nat Taylor]

Here is some useful information:
https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_capture_card#Digital_Capture_Cards

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chuck Hast  wrote:

> Folks,
> I need to capture video/ from a video system. This is the common stream off
> of a switcher, it can be pulled from a HDMI port (probably the best) or
> there is
> RGB and audio, and I believe there is S-Video too.
>
> Any suggestions as to what is a good device at a good price? This will of
> course
> be on a Linux box. It is Ubuntu Mate 16.04.
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better.
> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on.
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[PLUG] Good video capture card

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
I need to capture video/ from a video system. This is the common stream off
of a switcher, it can be pulled from a HDMI port (probably the best) or
there is
RGB and audio, and I believe there is S-Video too.

Any suggestions as to what is a good device at a good price? This will of
course
be on a Linux box. It is Ubuntu Mate 16.04.

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Re: [PLUG] more desktop issues

[Dick Steffens]

On 11/20/2016 05:04 PM, Ken Stephens wrote:

> These vague errors all point to cabling. I would get into the desktop
> and unplug and replug ever cable you see.  Especially if this desktop is
> older than a few years.   While inside I would vacuum out all the dust
> and assorted other cruft, too.

I was taught never to run a vacuum cleaner over a circuit board since 
the air flowing through the vacuum nozzle could cause a buildup of 
static electricity, which could damage the electronics. Has that old 
rule changed?

Instead use canned air to blow the dust out. Also, if it's really dusty, 
take the box outside to someplace you won't mind the dust being blown. 
Of course, do this when it's not raining. :-)

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Re: [PLUG] more desktop issues

[Ken Stephens]

Roderick Anderson wrote:
> Denis,
>
> I didn't follow your first thread si may be offering something already
> suggested.
>
> Open the case and reseat all the cables and check that any jumpers on the
> HD are actually jumpering.
>
> Many years ago I had a bad jumper on a (SCSI) drive that caused all kind or
> odd errors and unseated cables have caused no end of head aches.
>
> Also check that the CPU heat sink and fan are not blocked. Cat fur and
> computers are not good house mates.
>
>
> Good luck,
> Rod
Dennis,

These vague errors all point to cabling.  I would get into the desktop 
and unplug and replug ever cable you see.  Especially if this desktop is 
older than a few years.   While inside I would vacuum out all the dust 
and assorted other cruft, too.

Good Luck,
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[PLUG] MURPHY's LAW????? - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions]

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/20/2016 6:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_
> *ONE* purpose.
> It is to transfer data to/from a Windows machine.
>
> When I plug one into my Debian machine I want totally unfettered
> read/write access.
> [when logged in as root or *ANY* user ID]
>
> /etc/fstab wants a specific label, UUID, or /dev/sdX.
> What I could find about pmount.allow did not address issue.
> After all FAT filesystems do not have concept of ownership.
> Help please.



Just now, using the "Places" entry on MATE's menu bar I was able to:
  1. mount the specific flash drive that triggered this 'plaint.
  2. edit the *SPECIFIC* text file that Pluma would only open as 
"READ ONLY".
 That had been "straw that broke the camel's back".

This has me wondering if the objectionable reaction was *before* 
OR *after* having run
  gsettings set org.mate.media-handling automount false

For another project, I was already intending to create a custom 
preseed.cfg .
That will allow me to do _functionally_ identical installs [only 
physical difference being the target partition of the 
installation procedure].

Is there a standard log file that will record *ALL* operator 
"GUI" *OR* "command line" actions *AND* the system's response?

I've the time but am short on test procedure design skills.





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Re: [PLUG] more desktop issues

[Roderick Anderson]

Denis,

I didn't follow your first thread si may be offering something already 
suggested.

Open the case and reseat all the cables and check that any jumpers on the 
HD are actually jumpering.

Many years ago I had a bad jumper on a (SCSI) drive that caused all kind or 
odd errors and unseated cables have caused no end of head aches.

Also check that the CPU heat sink and fan are not blocked. Cat fur and 
computers are not good house mates.


Good luck,
Rod
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On November 20, 2016 09:14:07 Denis Heidtmann  
wrote:

> The desktop machine continues to fail in various ways.  All the
> observations and trials are too varied and random (or so it appears to me)
> that I do not know what to relate and what is a distraction.
>
> This AM on boot I got "error: attempt to read or write outside of hd0"
>  Press any key to continue."
>
> key presses ignored.  Reboot by button press.  Looked in the bios for
> clues. Voltages and temperatures look OK.  Reboot gets the same "error:
> att..."
>
> Reboot into recovery mode latest kernel (3.160-77 generic).  fsck ran w/o
> reporting errors.
>  dpkg: bus error, bus error, input/output error 4 times. System summary
> reports APT database bad.
>
> Reboot normally.  ran sudo dpkg --configure -a  No errors reported.
>
> Then I repeated the recovery mode and dpkg repair.  suggests apt-get
> autoremove.  also says unable to fetch some archives.
>
> Reboot normally.  Tried sudo apt autoremove --purge.  I get "--purge is not
> understood"  I think this indicates the command should be apt-get, but I
> believe I ran sudo apt autoremove --purge on the laptop with success.
>
> Ideas?
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Re: [PLUG] more desktop issues

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Denis Heidtmann wrote:

> Has the hardware messed up the software?  Sometimes it boots fine, esp.
> after I run the recovery mode. The "sometimes" nature points to hardware,
> but the repair of dpkg errors points to messed up sw. I will try your
> suggestion after running a memory check for a few hour--maybe overnight.

Denis,

   If I may offer a suggestion: first test to determine if the problem is
hardware or software. If hardware, then test memory. If it's software focus
on that and ignore the memory test.

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Re: [PLUG] more desktop issues

[Denis Heidtmann]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
>
> > Ideas?
>
>If this were my problem the first thing I'd do is separate hardware from
> software issues. You wrote that you have a live USB drive with some
> distribution on it. Try booting the problem host with that, or even another
> distribution.
>
>If the system boots and works normally you know it's the OS software and
> not the hardware. Otherwise, you know it's a hardware issue.
>
> HTH,
>
> Rich


Has the hardware messed up the software?  Sometimes it boots fine, esp.
after I run the recovery mode.  The "sometimes" nature points to hardware,
but the repair of dpkg errors points to messed up sw.   I will try your
suggestion after running a memory check for a few hour--maybe overnight.

-Denis
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Re: [PLUG] more desktop issues

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Denis Heidtmann wrote:

> Ideas?

   If this were my problem the first thing I'd do is separate hardware from
software issues. You wrote that you have a live USB drive with some
distribution on it. Try booting the problem host with that, or even another 
distribution.

   If the system boots and works normally you know it's the OS software and
not the hardware. Otherwise, you know it's a hardware issue.

HTH,

Rich
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[PLUG] more desktop issues

[Denis Heidtmann]

The desktop machine continues to fail in various ways.  All the
observations and trials are too varied and random (or so it appears to me)
that I do not know what to relate and what is a distraction.

This AM on boot I got "error: attempt to read or write outside of hd0"
 Press any key to continue."

key presses ignored.  Reboot by button press.  Looked in the bios for
clues. Voltages and temperatures look OK.  Reboot gets the same "error:
att..."

Reboot into recovery mode latest kernel (3.160-77 generic).  fsck ran w/o
reporting errors.
 dpkg: bus error, bus error, input/output error 4 times. System summary
reports APT database bad.

Reboot normally.  ran sudo dpkg --configure -a  No errors reported.

Then I repeated the recovery mode and dpkg repair.  suggests apt-get
autoremove.  also says unable to fetch some archives.

Reboot normally.  Tried sudo apt autoremove --purge.  I get "--purge is not
understood"  I think this indicates the command should be apt-get, but I
believe I ran sudo apt autoremove --purge on the laptop with success.

Ideas?
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Re: [PLUG] laptop error msg out of space for /boot

[Denis Heidtmann]

I appreciate your help.  Now watch for postings on my @#$% desktop.  It
seems to be having problems.  May also relate to packages.

-Denis

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Tom  wrote:

> I am glad that it sorted your problem.
>
> All you need to do, what I do anyway, is to run the auto remove command
> every few months, or as often as you feel like in order to remove old
> packages and kernel versions. It took a while to fill your /boot
> partition, so you should have about the same time before seeing the
> problem again.
>
> When apt removes the unused kernel packages, it takes care of Grub
> configuration too.
>
> Enjoy the rest of the weekend, Tomas
>
> On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 14:54 -0800, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Richard England <
> > rlengl...@frontier.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/19/2016 09:50 AM, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Richard England <
> > > > rlengl...@frontier.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 11/18/2016 05:54 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Russell Senior <
> > > > > russ...@personaltelco.net>
> > > > > > > Denis> This is a recent install, so I expect that there may
> > > > > > > not be
> > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > Denis> kernels.  How do I see what older kernels I have?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I use aptitude for package management.  Look for packages
> > > > > > > named
> > > > > > > linux-image-* and the associated linux-image-extra-*.  You
> > > > > > > want to
> > > purge
> > > > > > > them, I think.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Russell Senior, President
> > > > > > > russ...@personaltelco.net
> > > > > > I looked using synaptic.  I see 4.4.0-42.62 both in generic
> > > > > > and extra.
> > > > > > There are 7 earlier, all listed as installed.  But I also see
> > > > > 4.4.0-47.68,
> > > > > > yet uname shows 42.68.  Is it possible that the install of
> > > > > > 47.68
> > > stalled
> > > > > > when I got that memory error?  But regardless, it seems I
> > > > > > have some
> > > older
> > > > > > stuff to get rid of.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But you said "..., I think."  That makes me reluctant.
> > > > > >  Someone as
> > > > > > incompetent as I am needs certainty to minimize the chance of
> > > > > catastrophe.
> > > > > > -Denis
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> > > > > I'm not adept at Ubuntu but if you are installing updates with
> > > > > apt-get
> > > > > can't you use
> > > > >
> > > > > sudo apt autoremove --purge
> > > > >
> > > > > to remove the old kernels as well as other unused packages?
> > > > >
> > > > It worked.  Why do you say that I "cannot use" ?  Or are you
> > > > asking a
> > > > question?
> > > >
> > > > -Denis
> > > > ___
> > > I use Ubuntu mostly on VMs so I am rarely concerned with removing
> > > SW.
> > > The machines don't last long enough to merit updating much less
> > > removing.
> > >
> > > I was questioning my understanding and the applicability in your
> > > environment.
> > >
> > > Hope that helped clean things up for your update.
> > >
> > > ~
> >
> >
> > Yes.  /boot has only two versions now: 4.4.0-42 and -47.  So it
> > worked.  I
> > had 8 before.
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Coercing sane file permissions

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Richard Owlett wrote:

> /etc/fstab wants a specific label, UUID, or /dev/sdX. What I could find
> about pmount.allow did not address issue. After all FAT filesystems do not
> have concept of ownership. Help please.

Richard,

   I have found that most of my USB flash drives are seen by the kernel as
/dev/sdb1 (one is seen as /dev/sdc1). You can determine how your machine
sees your drives by (as root) running 'tail -f /var/log/messages'. This
updates the display as things change.

   If you watch the display as you plug in your thumb drive you'll see a
bunch of activity that ends with something like, '/dev/sdb /dev/sdb1'. Using
this knowledge, edit /etc/fstab to provide a mount point (you'll need to
'mkdir /mnt/' first). These are from my desktop host:

/dev/sdc1/mnt/flashdrive  vfatauto,users,rw  0   0
/dev/sdb1/mnt/thumb   vfatauto,users,rw  0   0

   This should work for you, too.

Regards,

Rich
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[PLUG] Coercing sane file permissions

[Richard Owlett]

I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_ 
*ONE* purpose.
It is to transfer data to/from a Windows machine.

When I plug one into my Debian machine I want totally unfettered 
read/write access.
[when logged in as root or *ANY* user ID]

/etc/fstab wants a specific label, UUID, or /dev/sdX.
What I could find about pmount.allow did not address issue.
After all FAT filesystems do not have concept of ownership.
Help please.


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