Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On 2017-03-28 06:55, Michael wrote: > On 2017-03-27 21:15, John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> Today I got a postcard in the mail from CenturyLink saying that I >> needed to go to their website to claim my prepaid VISA card bonus. I >> did, and they're sending me a VISA card worth $200. No one at the >> 'store' or here said anything about this, so I thought I'd mention >> that >> if you sign up the way I did you can get enough to pay for more than a >> couple months service. >> >> Getting unexpected money is always fun. :) > > They're still doing that? Great! > I recently received an email confirming that I've met all the > requirements and the card is in the mail. I wrote too soon. The card is now in my wallet. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On 2017-03-27 21:15, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Today I got a postcard in the mail from CenturyLink saying that I > needed to go to their website to claim my prepaid VISA card bonus. I > did, and they're sending me a VISA card worth $200. No one at the > 'store' or here said anything about this, so I thought I'd mention that > if you sign up the way I did you can get enough to pay for more than a > couple months service. > > Getting unexpected money is always fun. :) They're still doing that? Great! I recently received an email confirming that I've met all the requirements and the card is in the mail. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:56:32 -0700 Russell Senior dijo: >Nope, no additional hardware. It plugs into the ethernet run that >comes from the optical network terminal thing they probably attached >to the side of your house. It just replaces the device they are >renting to you, and that they sell to other suckers (like me) for $100. > >I'll dig one out of my pile and build an image for it. It'll take a >couple days. I'll contact you off-list. Russell's efforts worked perfectly, and we had fun poking around the mess that I call my home network. And I learned some stuff during all the changeover from Comcast to CenturyLink. And a couple days ago I returned the CenturyLink router and got documentation, plus I took pictures of the box with the UPS label that the staff put on it to send it back to wherever these things come from. So far my experience with them has been very good. Today I got a postcard in the mail from CenturyLink saying that I needed to go to their website to claim my prepaid VISA card bonus. I did, and they're sending me a VISA card worth $200. No one at the 'store' or here said anything about this, so I thought I'd mention that if you sign up the way I did you can get enough to pay for more than a couple months service. Getting unexpected money is always fun. :) ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: >> It's not terribly likely that the VLAN on the WAN port is supported >> by the stock firmware of any off-the-shelf router. It isn't clear >> why CenturyLink even does that, except to try to lock you in to their >> hardware. Considering your help with the table saw a few months ago, >> I'd be happy to build a D-Link DIR860L gateway to do the trick for >> you. John> The D-Link DIR860L needs hardware of some kind, I assume. Let me John> know what you need for me to take you up on your offer. Nope, no additional hardware. It plugs into the ethernet run that comes from the optical network terminal thing they probably attached to the side of your house. It just replaces the device they are renting to you, and that they sell to other suckers (like me) for $100. I'll dig one out of my pile and build an image for it. It'll take a couple days. I'll contact you off-list. -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:08:09 -0800 Russell Senior dijo: >John> From what Russell et al. have said here, and from what I can see >John> myself, it appears that the 'modem' is not a modem as we normally >John> think of a modem, rather, it appears to function more as a >John> router. I haven't used its wifi because the Netgear has wifi >John> (only used for my phone and laptop, although the laptop is >John> normally wired). Russell says I need pppoe and VLAN and that >John> these might be doable with the Netgear. I logged into the >John> Netgear router and found a VLAN / Bridge Settings page, which >John> had a big checkbox for 'Enable VLAn / Bridge Setup.' It was not >John> checked and I left it unchecked for now. I didn't find anything >John> that said pppoe, but probably I just don't know what to look for. >It's not terribly likely that the VLAN on the WAN port is supported by >the stock firmware of any off-the-shelf router. It isn't clear why >CenturyLink even does that, except to try to lock you in to their >hardware. Considering your help with the table saw a few months ago, >I'd be happy to build a D-Link DIR860L gateway to do the trick for you. The D-Link DIR860L needs hardware of some kind, I assume. Let me know what you need for me to take you up on your offer. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: John> From what Russell et al. have said here, and from what I can see John> myself, it appears that the 'modem' is not a modem as we normally John> think of a modem, rather, it appears to function more as a John> router. I haven't used its wifi because the Netgear has wifi (only John> used for my phone and laptop, although the laptop is normally John> wired). Russell says I need pppoe and VLAN and that these might be John> doable with the Netgear. I logged into the Netgear router and John> found a VLAN / Bridge Settings page, which had a big checkbox for John> 'Enable VLAn / Bridge Setup.' It was not checked and I left it John> unchecked for now. I didn't find anything that said pppoe, but John> probably I just don't know what to look for. It's not terribly likely that the VLAN on the WAN port is supported by the stock firmware of any off-the-shelf router. It isn't clear why CenturyLink even does that, except to try to lock you in to their hardware. Considering your help with the table saw a few months ago, I'd be happy to build a D-Link DIR860L gateway to do the trick for you. -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 23:26:44 -0800 Russell Senior dijo: >John> The bill was actually $86.76 because I signed up for their $9.99 >John> a month modem rental, intending to return it and buy my own as >John> soon as I can figure out what to buy. The paperwork says their >John> modem is a Model Number: C2100T. There is another device in >John> addition to the modem, but I don't know what it is. Someone here >John> posted that they had bought a modem for CenturyLink gigabit for >John> $50 somewhere, but I can't find the message now. Advice would be >John> appreciated. >>> >>> You need a router that can do a vlan and pppoe. The CenturyLink >>> device is just a wireless router with those features, no fancy >>> demodulator like a cable modem. I have set up a few gateway routers >>> on CL fiber, and I could help. One person got a D-Link DIR860L-B1 >>> (about $30 on amazon) and put LEDE (OpenWrt) on it, with a >>> configuration I helped the with. Works pretty well. > >You are using the router features of the CL "modem" but you don't >really need to. That's the point I am trying to make. For $30, with >some added elbow grease, I can make your CL "modem" go away. > >The only special things their "modem" is doing is the VLAN (201) and >the pppoe configuration, both things that are duplicatable with a $30 >router. Reflashing the Netgear 6250 might also be an option, though >support for the wireless interfaces might be problematic (not sure, >actually, but they are broadcom radios, which make me nervous). There >is an outside chance that the stock firmware supports VLAN, in which >case it might just be configurable to work. OK, let me start by describing the equipment in my house installed by CenturyLink (probably more detail than is necessary): The 'ADTRAN': There is a white plastic device about the size of a DVD case, except about twice as thick. The fiber from the street plugs into it, as does its power cord from the wall wart, and one ethernet cable. If I recall correctly, the installer guy said its purpose was to translate the signal from the fiber to ethernet. It has a label that says: ADTRAN Model NameI:NDOOR SFU GEN3 Model No.: TA324 Power Rating: 12V 1.5A P/N 1287735G3 Rev B FSAN : ADTNAA 100ABB MAC 00:19:92:B2:31:B5 Manuf. date 2016-03-03 The other end of the ethernet cable plugged into the ADTRAN is plugged into the 'modem.' The 'modem' is twice the size of the Netgear modem that I used with Comcast. On the front it has the following blinkenlights (all lit up or blinking except those with *): Power DSL 1 * DSL 2 * Internet WAN/LAN 1 2 * Ethernet 3 * 4 * HPNA * USB WiFi 2.4 GHz WiFi 5 GHz VOIP-1 * VOIP-2 * WPS It has a label which says: SSID - 2.4 GHz CenturyLink1080 SSID - 5 GHz CenturyLink10805G Security type: WPA2-AES Key Passphrase *** WPS Pin ** GUI Address 192.168.0.1 Admin Username: admin Admin Password: *** The installer left the box that the 'modem' came in because I told him that I would be returning it as soon as I get my own. There is a label on the box: CenturyLink SN: CP1640ABA5R1080 CPRO: C2100TV4 Gw: BAC2100TV4 MAC: 10:13:31:07:02:7E Inside the box are a couple of papers for the license agreement, safety instructions and regulatory notices, all from an outfit called 'technicolor' www.technicolor.com In the back of the 'modem', in addition to a power cord from its wall wart, are ethernet jacks; one has the cable from the ADTRAN, and the other has a cable to the WAN jack on my Netgear router. The latter cable used to go to the back of the Comcast modem. >From what Russell et al. have said here, and from what I can see myself, it appears that the 'modem' is not a modem as we normally think of a modem, rather, it appears to function more as a router. I haven't used its wifi because the Netgear has wifi (only used for my phone and laptop, although the laptop is normally wired). Russell says I need pppoe and VLAN and that these might be doable with the Netgear. I logged into the Netgear router and found a VLAN / Bridge Settings page, which had a big checkbox for 'Enable VLAn / Bridge Setup.' It was not checked and I left it unchecked for now. I didn't find anything that said pppoe, but probably I just don't know what to look for. Any thoughts? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: John> On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 19:17:24 -0800 Russell Senior John> dijo: >>> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: >> John> The bill was actually $86.76 because I signed up for their $9.99 a John> month modem rental, intending to return it and buy my own as soon John> as I can figure out what to buy. The paperwork says their modem is John> a Model Number: C2100T. There is another device in addition to the John> modem, but I don't know what it is. Someone here posted that they John> had bought a modem for CenturyLink gigabit for $50 somewhere, but John> I can't find the message now. Advice would be appreciated. >> >> You need a router that can do a vlan and pppoe. The CenturyLink >> device is just a wireless router with those features, no fancy >> demodulator like a cable modem. I have set up a few gateway routers >> on CL fiber, and I could help. One person got a D-Link DIR860L-B1 >> (about $30 on amazon) and put LEDE (OpenWrt) on it, with a >> configuration I helped the with. Works pretty well. >> >> Despite the speed claims and speed tests, downloads from actual >> services tend to be much lower. I rarely see more that 30 Mbps, >> although a few times I saw 200-300 Mbps. I'm not sure why, if it is >> just bad peering, the other end-point not feeding fast enough, or >> some kind of active throttling. John> I neglected to say that the CenturyLink modem connects to my John> Netgear 6250 gigabit router, and from the Netgear to a couple John> switches that then connect to my computers, laser printers, and John> other devices. In other words, I am not using the router features John> of the modem. You are using the router features of the CL "modem" but you don't really need to. That's the point I am trying to make. For $30, with some added elbow grease, I can make your CL "modem" go away. The only special things their "modem" is doing is the VLAN (201) and the pppoe configuration, both things that are duplicatable with a $30 router. Reflashing the Netgear 6250 might also be an option, though support for the wireless interfaces might be problematic (not sure, actually, but they are broadcom radios, which make me nervous). There is an outside chance that the stock firmware supports VLAN, in which case it might just be configurable to work. -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
> > > I thought all computers, printers and other devices were all going > through the Netgear. How can something that is 192.168.0.1 (the CL > modem) be working on the same network as 192.168.1.x ? > > simple: the device with IP address 192.168.1.1 has a default gateway defined of 192.168.0.1. if it works, great. don't touch it. it's far from ideal, but also far from uncommon. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:17:36 -0800 Larry Brigman dijo: >On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:48 PM, John Jason Jordan >wrote: >> I neglected to say that the CenturyLink modem connects to my Netgear >> 6250 gigabit router, and from the Netgear to a couple switches that >> then connect to my computers, laser printers, and other devices. In >> other words, I am not using the router features of the modem. >Check the WAN side of you Netgear router. If it is using 192.168.X.X >then you are using both routers since the CenturyLink router is also >doing NATing >of all your internet traffic - actually dual NAT Netgear and CL. I am completely lost. When the CenturyLink installer dude plugged in my Netgear router to the new modem he failed to tell me that the new modem had been set to 192.168.0.1 at the factory. Unfortunately, 192.168.0.1 is what my Netgear router had been set to. The Netgear popped up a message on my laptop that it had discovered a conflict with another device so it had changed itself to 192.168.1.1, whereupon half my devices could no longer connect - some, like the laptop, automatically changed to . . 1 ., but others did not. It took a couple days, but I finally got all devices set to 192.168.1.x, so now everything is working again. I thought all computers, printers and other devices were all going through the Netgear. How can something that is 192.168.0.1 (the CL modem) be working on the same network as 192.168.1.x ? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:48 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > I neglected to say that the CenturyLink modem connects to my Netgear > 6250 gigabit router, and from the Netgear to a couple switches that > then connect to my computers, laser printers, and other devices. In > other words, I am not using the router features of the modem. > Check the WAN side of you Netgear router. If it is using 192.168.X.X then you are using both routers since the CenturyLink router is also doing NATing of all your internet traffic - actually dual NAT Netgear and CL. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 19:17:24 -0800 Russell Senior dijo: >> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: > >John> The bill was actually $86.76 because I signed up for their $9.99 >John> a month modem rental, intending to return it and buy my own as >John> soon as I can figure out what to buy. The paperwork says their >John> modem is a Model Number: C2100T. There is another device in >John> addition to the modem, but I don't know what it is. Someone here >John> posted that they had bought a modem for CenturyLink gigabit for >John> $50 somewhere, but I can't find the message now. Advice would be >John> appreciated. > >You need a router that can do a vlan and pppoe. The CenturyLink device >is just a wireless router with those features, no fancy demodulator >like a cable modem. I have set up a few gateway routers on CL fiber, >and I could help. One person got a D-Link DIR860L-B1 (about $30 on >amazon) and put LEDE (OpenWrt) on it, with a configuration I helped >the with. Works pretty well. > >Despite the speed claims and speed tests, downloads from actual >services tend to be much lower. I rarely see more that 30 Mbps, >although a few times I saw 200-300 Mbps. I'm not sure why, if it is >just bad peering, the other end-point not feeding fast enough, or some >kind of active throttling. I neglected to say that the CenturyLink modem connects to my Netgear 6250 gigabit router, and from the Netgear to a couple switches that then connect to my computers, laser printers, and other devices. In other words, I am not using the router features of the modem. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: John> The bill was actually $86.76 because I signed up for their $9.99 a John> month modem rental, intending to return it and buy my own as soon John> as I can figure out what to buy. The paperwork says their modem is John> a Model Number: C2100T. There is another device in addition to the John> modem, but I don't know what it is. Someone here posted that they John> had bought a modem for CenturyLink gigabit for $50 somewhere, but John> I can't find the message now. Advice would be appreciated. You need a router that can do a vlan and pppoe. The CenturyLink device is just a wireless router with those features, no fancy demodulator like a cable modem. I have set up a few gateway routers on CL fiber, and I could help. One person got a D-Link DIR860L-B1 (about $30 on amazon) and put LEDE (OpenWrt) on it, with a configuration I helped the with. Works pretty well. Despite the speed claims and speed tests, downloads from actual services tend to be much lower. I rarely see more that 30 Mbps, although a few times I saw 200-300 Mbps. I'm not sure why, if it is just bad peering, the other end-point not feeding fast enough, or some kind of active throttling. -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 20:46:13 -0800 Michael Rasmussen dijo: >All in all I'm very happy with the switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. >If you live in Portland and go to the CL store to place your order you >can currently get free installation, free setup, and a screaming great >price. You do need to sign up on a two year contract and agree to >auto-billing and paperless statements. If you don't want to spend the >extra $$$ for 1G, the 100Mbps service is available with the same >conditions for a little more than half the price. >This deal is certainly available to anyone who had those CenturyLink >door to door sales folks visit. So far I am happy with the switch too, although it took me some effort to get my home ethernet working properly after the installation - but that was mostly due to my own lack of knowledge of networking. Soon I will have a Netgear CM600 that I used with Comcast to give away, but I want to hang onto it for a bit just in case the CenturyLink connection blows up. I don't trust new things right away. :) I am getting ~750 down and ~900 up, using the speedtest web browser GUI. CenturyLink told me they guarantee at least 85% of what I am paying for, so I could call and bitch about the ~750 down, but it isn't a big enough deal to me. I just paid my first bill. I thought I needed to agree to autopay in order to get the promotional price ($70 + recovery fee $3.99), but in today's mail I got a paper statement. I just paid it with my bank's bill pay feature. The bill was actually $86.76 because I signed up for their $9.99 a month modem rental, intending to return it and buy my own as soon as I can figure out what to buy. The paperwork says their modem is a Model Number: C2100T. There is another device in addition to the modem, but I don't know what it is. Someone here posted that they had bought a modem for CenturyLink gigabit for $50 somewhere, but I can't find the message now. Advice would be appreciated. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 00:03:51 -0800 Bill Barry dijo: >> Still can't get the desktop to see the internet. :( >You could at least temporarily set the network up on the desktop to >use DHCP and see if that fixes the problems. If you later want to >switch it back to static ip addresses you can use the settings it >gets via DHCP as a guide. Success! Previously, from advice found on Ubuntu forums I had added the following lines to /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.146 gateway 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 It didn't seem to make any difference, so this morning I #'d them out. Then I searched all over for the correct command on 14.04 to restart the network. I finally found the right command 'sudo service network-manager restart.' After issuing the command Firefox was able to go places and Banshee was able to stream internet radio, so all is right with my world again. Many thanks to all who helped! ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:56 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 10:03:12 -0800 > John Jason Jordan dijo: > >>On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 20:50:01 -0800 >>wes dijo: >> >>>You should remove the Netgear from the network. Once you do that, set >>>your laptop back to 192.168.0.x and everything should work again. >> >>That is not clear to me. If I remove the Netgear from the network, >>nothing will go anywhere. It has a patch cord to the new modem, and >>patch cords to a 16-port and an 8-port switch, into which are connected >>both computers, the HDHomeRun, and several printers. Looking at the >>Admin page with Firefox it lists 'connected devices' as: >> >> 192.168.1.25 Brother desktop printer >> 192.168.1.126 Laptop wireless >> 192.168.1.136 Laptop eth1 >> 192.168.1.148 HDHomeRun >> 192.168.1.100 Android phone > > Partial success: I succeeded in getting the Synology working by > downloading and installing the .deb file for "Synology Assistant" > provided on Synology's web site. This allowed me to reset its IP > address, so now the router sees it. I still couldn't mount it until I > remembered that I had entered it in /etc/fstab and, sure enough, the > setting in fstab still had the . . 0 . address. I changed in fstab et > voilà! > > Still can't get the desktop to see the internet. :( You could at least temporarily set the network up on the desktop to use DHCP and see if that fixes the problems. If you later want to switch it back to static ip addresses you can use the settings it gets via DHCP as a guide. Bill > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 10:03:12 -0800 John Jason Jordan dijo: >On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 20:50:01 -0800 >wes dijo: > >>You should remove the Netgear from the network. Once you do that, set >>your laptop back to 192.168.0.x and everything should work again. > >That is not clear to me. If I remove the Netgear from the network, >nothing will go anywhere. It has a patch cord to the new modem, and >patch cords to a 16-port and an 8-port switch, into which are connected >both computers, the HDHomeRun, and several printers. Looking at the >Admin page with Firefox it lists 'connected devices' as: > > 192.168.1.25 Brother desktop printer > 192.168.1.126 Laptop wireless > 192.168.1.136 Laptop eth1 > 192.168.1.148 HDHomeRun > 192.168.1.100 Android phone Partial success: I succeeded in getting the Synology working by downloading and installing the .deb file for "Synology Assistant" provided on Synology's web site. This allowed me to reset its IP address, so now the router sees it. I still couldn't mount it until I remembered that I had entered it in /etc/fstab and, sure enough, the setting in fstab still had the . . 0 . address. I changed in fstab et voilà! Still can't get the desktop to see the internet. :( ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 20:50:01 -0800 wes dijo: >You should remove the Netgear from the network. Once you do that, set >your laptop back to 192.168.0.x and everything should work again. That is not clear to me. If I remove the Netgear from the network, nothing will go anywhere. It has a patch cord to the new modem, and patch cords to a 16-port and an 8-port switch, into which are connected both computers, the HDHomeRun, and several printers. Looking at the Admin page with Firefox it lists 'connected devices' as: 192.168.1.25 Brother desktop printer 192.168.1.126 Laptop wireless 192.168.1.136 Laptop eth1 192.168.1.148 HDHomeRun 192.168.1.100 Android phone I should have added that the new modem came preconfigured with an address of 192.168.0.1. It also has wireless capability at 2.4GHz and 5GHz with WPA2-AES, but I have never connected to either of them. Only the laptop and my phone use wireless and they are configured for the wireless in the Netgear. The laptop is also connected to eth1. Looking at the list of connected devices above, it is interesting that I did not have to change the IP address of any of them - somehow the Netgear must have done that for me, because all were originally '0.' And all are currently working fine. The only problems are the desktop and the Synology. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces file on the desktop because it just had 'auto lo' and 'iface li inet loopback.' Everything after those lines were added yesterday from advice on Ubuntu forums: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interfaces # From Ubuntu Help, added 2/28/2017 auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.146* gateway 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 *In my message yesterday I said I had set it to . . .1, but that was mistyped - should have said . . .146. The Ubuntu instructions said to restart the network with 'sudo service networking restart,' but that just gave me an error. After fiddling with the command for a few minutes I gave up on it and just rebooted the computer. Afterwards the desktop can connect to everything on my network (except the Synology), but it can't get to the internet. As for the Synology, as far as I can tell the only way to change its settings is to use the Synology web based administration tool. You start by typing 'find.synology' in the URL bar, and the tool is supposed to find the NAS and let you configure it. Unfortunately, this fails because the Synology is still '0.' There is also a problem with the Netgear. I can successfully get into the admin page with Firefox, but some of the tools don't work, specifically anything that will tell me what its settings are. This is kind of maddening. According to the manual I need to select the Advanced tab, then Setup > Lan Setup, which will give me a page with what it is set to. But when I do that the page remains blank. I have to leave now for PSU and I won't be back until after 6:00, so all this will have to wait. In the meantime, if anyone has any genius suggestions, I'm all ears ... er, eyes. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:13 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > With the command line I succeeded in > setting the desktop to 192.168.1.1, which succeeded in getting it to > see other devices on my own network, but it still can't get to the > internet. > Did you change only the desktop IP address to 192.168.1.x or did you also change the Default Gateway and possibly DNS if it was set to 192.168.0.1 previously? NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
You should remove the Netgear from the network. Once you do that, set your laptop back to 192.168.0.x and everything should work again. -wes On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:13 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:24:39 -0800 > John Jason Jordan dijo: > > >Alea jacta est. Today I went to the 'store' in Hollywood and signed up. > >(It's not a store, there's no merchandise for sale there, but I didn't > >argue with them.) The 1 GB service is $70 a month, plus 3.99 for a > >'recovery fee,' whatever that is, and installation is free. And I opted > >to lease the modem for the time being, so the total comes to $83.97, > >less $9.99 after I get my own modem. Installation is Tuesday 2/28. > > > >Can't wait to tell Comcast to go suck eggs. > > The installer came today. The appointment was for a window of 10 am to > 2 pm, and at 10:15 he called and said he needed another 45 minutes at > his current job and then he would be here. I thought it was nice of him > to let me know, even though he had no obligation to do so. > > When he arrived we surveyed the layout of the house, the current > Comcast line, and what the best options were. He was very considerate > of my desire to keep my house looking like a house and not a structure > with a web of wires hanging all over it. The decision as to where and > how to install the connection was mutual. And now that it is finished I > am happy to say that it is not very visible. > > I had a lot of issues with the paperwork that I got from the Hollywood > office (a few notes scribbled on the back of a business card) and the > PDF file that came in an e-mail that I didn't receive until yesterday. > There was nothing about data limits, guarantees of speed, and several > other issues. An old lawyer saw is 'if it's not in writing it's not > worth the paper it's printed on.' So this morning I called to cancel the > installation, knowing that this would get me to someone with some > facts. It did, and the gentleman who I spoke to said that the installer > would bring the real contract. And indeed, he did, although it was on > an IPad and the only option was to accept or reject. And the installer > did not bring this to me until after the installation was complete. I > wondered what he would do if I refused. The document was 16 pages long > and it was impossible to digest it fully under the circumstances, but I > did get one fact straight: I can cancel the service anytime in the > first 30 days without penalty, although there are severe cancellation > fees if you cancel after the first 30 days (it's a two-year contract). > So I spent five minutes trying to skim through the legal stuff and then > agreed to it. > > Then, with the installer standing by, the new modem connected and the > router reset, I sat down at my laptop (my main computer) to see if it > all worked. It did, so I opened a Firefox tab to speedtest.net to see > what I would get. I got about 750 down and about 900 up. Not bad > compared to the 55 down and 5-6 up from Comcast. And I should add that > the gentleman I spoke to this morning said that CenturyLink guaranteed > 85% of the rate that I was paying for. I haven't finished reviewing the > contract, so I'm not sure if that is in there. > > Now for the annoying news. My laptop works fine with the new modem, but > I have problems with other devices. The new modem was set to > 192.168.0.1, which is the address that my Netgear R6250 router was > already set to. On encountering the conflict the router graciously > reset itself to 192.168.1.1. This seems to have solved the problem with > the laptop, but my desktop computer was still set to '0', so it was > unable to connect to anything. With the command line I succeeded in > setting the desktop to 192.168.1.1, which succeeded in getting it to > see other devices on my own network, but it still can't get to the > internet. > > Also, my Synology DS216j NAS is apparently still set to '0' and nothing > on the network can see it. Synology has a web-based too for configuring > it, but the tool can't find the Synology because it is still on '0' > when everything else is on '1.' I tried to reset the Netgear to '0' > temporarily in order to fix the Synology, but the Netgear 'Genie' web > based configuration tool allows me no options to change its IP address > manually. The manual says 'click on this' and displays what the screen > is supposed to show, including boxes for manually entering IP addresses, > but when I 'click on this' absolutely nothing happens - the screen > that is supposed to appear does not appear. There must be a way to > change its settings without the tool. I'll call them tomorrow. > > That's enough for today. Suggestions to solve my problems will be > welcome. I will report more later as I figure out how to get everything > working. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > _
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:24:39 -0800 John Jason Jordan dijo: >Alea jacta est. Today I went to the 'store' in Hollywood and signed up. >(It's not a store, there's no merchandise for sale there, but I didn't >argue with them.) The 1 GB service is $70 a month, plus 3.99 for a >'recovery fee,' whatever that is, and installation is free. And I opted >to lease the modem for the time being, so the total comes to $83.97, >less $9.99 after I get my own modem. Installation is Tuesday 2/28. > >Can't wait to tell Comcast to go suck eggs. The installer came today. The appointment was for a window of 10 am to 2 pm, and at 10:15 he called and said he needed another 45 minutes at his current job and then he would be here. I thought it was nice of him to let me know, even though he had no obligation to do so. When he arrived we surveyed the layout of the house, the current Comcast line, and what the best options were. He was very considerate of my desire to keep my house looking like a house and not a structure with a web of wires hanging all over it. The decision as to where and how to install the connection was mutual. And now that it is finished I am happy to say that it is not very visible. I had a lot of issues with the paperwork that I got from the Hollywood office (a few notes scribbled on the back of a business card) and the PDF file that came in an e-mail that I didn't receive until yesterday. There was nothing about data limits, guarantees of speed, and several other issues. An old lawyer saw is 'if it's not in writing it's not worth the paper it's printed on.' So this morning I called to cancel the installation, knowing that this would get me to someone with some facts. It did, and the gentleman who I spoke to said that the installer would bring the real contract. And indeed, he did, although it was on an IPad and the only option was to accept or reject. And the installer did not bring this to me until after the installation was complete. I wondered what he would do if I refused. The document was 16 pages long and it was impossible to digest it fully under the circumstances, but I did get one fact straight: I can cancel the service anytime in the first 30 days without penalty, although there are severe cancellation fees if you cancel after the first 30 days (it's a two-year contract). So I spent five minutes trying to skim through the legal stuff and then agreed to it. Then, with the installer standing by, the new modem connected and the router reset, I sat down at my laptop (my main computer) to see if it all worked. It did, so I opened a Firefox tab to speedtest.net to see what I would get. I got about 750 down and about 900 up. Not bad compared to the 55 down and 5-6 up from Comcast. And I should add that the gentleman I spoke to this morning said that CenturyLink guaranteed 85% of the rate that I was paying for. I haven't finished reviewing the contract, so I'm not sure if that is in there. Now for the annoying news. My laptop works fine with the new modem, but I have problems with other devices. The new modem was set to 192.168.0.1, which is the address that my Netgear R6250 router was already set to. On encountering the conflict the router graciously reset itself to 192.168.1.1. This seems to have solved the problem with the laptop, but my desktop computer was still set to '0', so it was unable to connect to anything. With the command line I succeeded in setting the desktop to 192.168.1.1, which succeeded in getting it to see other devices on my own network, but it still can't get to the internet. Also, my Synology DS216j NAS is apparently still set to '0' and nothing on the network can see it. Synology has a web-based too for configuring it, but the tool can't find the Synology because it is still on '0' when everything else is on '1.' I tried to reset the Netgear to '0' temporarily in order to fix the Synology, but the Netgear 'Genie' web based configuration tool allows me no options to change its IP address manually. The manual says 'click on this' and displays what the screen is supposed to show, including boxes for manually entering IP addresses, but when I 'click on this' absolutely nothing happens - the screen that is supposed to appear does not appear. There must be a way to change its settings without the tool. I'll call them tomorrow. That's enough for today. Suggestions to solve my problems will be welcome. I will report more later as I figure out how to get everything working. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
joh...@gmx.com said: > The 1 GB service is $70 a month, plus 3.99 for a 'recovery fee,' whatever that > is, and installation is free. And I opted to lease the modem for the time > being, so the total comes to $83.97, less $9.99 after I get my own modem. > Installation is Tuesday 2/28. Is that a promotional price? If so, what's the term and what's the normal price? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 21:52:14 -0800 John Jason Jordan dijo: >On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 20:46:13 -0800 >Michael Rasmussen dijo: > >>All in all I'm very happy with the switch from Comcast to >>CenturyLink. If you live in Portland and go to the CL store to place >>your order you can currently get free installation, free setup, and a >>screaming great price. You do need to sign up on a two year contract >>and agree to auto-billing and paperless statements. If you don't >>want to spend the extra $$$ for 1G, the 100Mbps service is available >>with the same conditions for a little more than half the price. >>This deal is certainly available to anyone who had those CenturyLink >>door to door sales folks visit. > >Thanks for the heads up about going to the store to get free >installation, setup and a screaming great price. A couple weeks ago >their web site offered 1GB service for $130 a month, but yesterday I >noted that it was $110 a month, always with $60 for installation. > >They came to my door last week and I'm planning to make the move in a >week or two. Alea jacta est. Today I went to the 'store' in Hollywood and signed up. (It's not a store, there's no merchandise for sale there, but I didn't argue with them.) The 1 GB service is $70 a month, plus 3.99 for a 'recovery fee,' whatever that is, and installation is free. And I opted to lease the modem for the time being, so the total comes to $83.97, less $9.99 after I get my own modem. Installation is Tuesday 2/28. Can't wait to tell Comcast to go suck eggs. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 20:46:13 -0800 Michael Rasmussen dijo: >All in all I'm very happy with the switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. >If you live in Portland and go to the CL store to place your order you >can currently get free installation, free setup, and a screaming great >price. You do need to sign up on a two year contract and agree to >auto-billing and paperless statements. If you don't want to spend the >extra $$$ for 1G, the 100Mbps service is available with the same >conditions for a little more than half the price. >This deal is certainly available to anyone who had those CenturyLink >door to door sales folks visit. Thanks for the heads up about going to the store to get free installation, setup and a screaming great price. A couple weeks ago their web site offered 1GB service for $130 a month, but yesterday I noted that it was $110 a month, always with $60 for installation. They came to my door last week and I'm planning to make the move in a week or two. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
Lots of snippage. On 2017-01-27 14:53, RParr wrote: > 1) Speed is way better than my old line BUT it is not as fast as > advertised. > Using a variety of speed tests I get... As Russel pointed out, only run speed tests over wired connections. WiFi will be a bottleneck. iperf3 is a solid test and with iperf.he.net being a test target. speedtest-cli is not reliable at 1G speeds. I consistently show 500+ MB up and down. As Russell pointed out there's really no place to connect to at a full 1G While typing this my wife started watching an HD moving on Netflix. And I ran three parallel iperf3 sessions to three different targets: iperf3 -c cave.michaelrpdx.com > ip1 & \ iperf3 -c iperf.he.net > ip2 & \ iperf3 -4 -c iperf.scottlinux.com > ip3 The aggregate of the three sessions was 921Mbytes/sec cave.michaerpdx.com is a Seattle based Ramnode VM I use. The lesson is you can do alot in parallel. I've also noted my download speeds when running pacman, the Arch Linux package manager, locally match what I get on my VMs. cave gets 800+Mbytes on an iperf3 test to iperf.he.net. in all, you now can get as much as any current provider will send and you can do it to multiple sites simultaneously. Another interesting tidbit, when I do run Speedtest from a browser I frequently see upload speeds greater than download speeds. All in all I'm very happy with the switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. If you live in Portland and go to the CL store to place your order you can currently get free installation, free setup, and a screaming great price. You do need to sign up on a two year contract and agree to auto-billing and paperless statements. If you don't want to spend the extra $$$ for 1G, the 100Mbps service is available with the same conditions for a little more than half the price. This deal is certainly available to anyone who had those CenturyLink door to door sales folks visit. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
> "RParr" == RParr writes: RParr> Located in NE Portland. I have a Century Link DSL business line RParr> (static IPs, etc.). I've had this line for over 10yrs. It's RParr> dead slow and getting worse. I also have a Comcast business RParr> line. RParr> I recently installed Century Link 1G fibre. It's up. It's RParr> working. I have my statics configured and working. My hope is RParr> to have the fibre replace both the DSL and the Comcast. RParr> I am seeking the groups opinions as to if, and how best, to RParr> proceed before switching my main connection to the 1G. RParr> 1) Speed is way better than my old line BUT it is not as fast as RParr> advertised. Using a variety of speed tests I get... RParr> Google test to Seattle server 42Mbs down / 194Mbs up / 5ms RParr> (several other speed tests gave similar results) RParr> Ookla test to Portland server 336Mbs down / 736Mbs up / 8ms RParr> DSLReports test 310Mbs down / 799Mbs up / 45ms RParr> Century Links own diagnostic speed test shows 200Mbs down / RParr> 660Mbs up RParr> Both systems currently using the Century Link fibre line see ping RParr> latency of 6ms +/- RParr> Both I and the installer were a little surprised at the down RParr> always being 1/4 to 1/2 the upload speed. He said "give it a RParr> little time and it will get faster". RParr> The upload seems great at (up to) 80% of advertised. The upload RParr> seems to indicate the line/equipment is capable. RParr> Does anyone else here have Century Link fibre? What are you RParr> seeing? Yes. Be sure you are doing speedtests on a wired connection, not wifi. >From gateway to gateway over 4 hops of CL's network (that is, a gigabit to gigabit service) using iperf3, I see upper hundreds of megabits. RParr> Would you'all complain about the "slow" download or just shut up RParr> and "be happy"? Complaining can't hurt. I think they do have peering issues. The more noise there is, the more likely it is to be corrected. RParr> 2) My plan is to switch one of my current routers, a Netgear RParr> WDNR3700 running OpenWRT, to be the router/firewall. RParr> The Century Link fibre comes into a Calix router/modem then to a RParr> ZyXEL C1100Z router. The Calix is a black box which even the RParr> installer/techs can not access (lack of access concerns me but RParr> different topic). I am assuming it is configured in bridge RParr> mode. Century Link insists the ZyXEL has to be "in the chain" so RParr> they can enter the account username/password. I can put the RParr> ZyXEL in bridge mode and connect it to my OpenWRT router. RParr> My concern is starting out with 3 routers in a chain with 2 of RParr> them in bridge mode. Is this a practical performance problem or RParr> just a theoretical problem? The Calix is what's called an ONT. You don't replace that, but you can replace the router they sell. You do pppoe on a VLAN (201). I've done that at several locations now. The WNDR3700 is probably not going to be able to route at wire-speed, based on my experience, because of inadequate CPU speed. However, there are options. The more expensive version is a PCEngines APU, which is a single board computer. A cheaper option is a router based on a MT7621. One example is the D-Link DIR860L (hw version B1). I've found them on Amazon for ~$30. -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
Located in NE Portland. I have a Century Link DSL business line (static IPs, etc.). I've had this line for over 10yrs. It's dead slow and getting worse. I also have a Comcast business line. I recently installed Century Link 1G fibre. It's up. It's working. I have my statics configured and working. My hope is to have the fibre replace both the DSL and the Comcast. I am seeking the groups opinions as to if, and how best, to proceed before switching my main connection to the 1G. 1) Speed is way better than my old line BUT it is not as fast as advertised. Using a variety of speed tests I get... Google test to Seattle server 42Mbs down / 194Mbs up / 5ms (several other speed tests gave similar results) Ookla test to Portland server 336Mbs down / 736Mbs up / 8ms DSLReports test 310Mbs down / 799Mbs up / 45ms Century Links own diagnostic speed test shows 200Mbs down / 660Mbs up Both systems currently using the Century Link fibre line see ping latency of 6ms +/- Both I and the installer were a little surprised at the down always being 1/4 to 1/2 the upload speed. He said "give it a little time and it will get faster". The upload seems great at (up to) 80% of advertised. The upload seems to indicate the line/equipment is capable. Does anyone else here have Century Link fibre? What are you seeing? Would you'all complain about the "slow" download or just shut up and "be happy"? 2) My plan is to switch one of my current routers, a Netgear WDNR3700 running OpenWRT, to be the router/firewall. The Century Link fibre comes into a Calix router/modem then to a ZyXEL C1100Z router. The Calix is a black box which even the installer/techs can not access (lack of access concerns me but different topic). I am assuming it is configured in bridge mode. Century Link insists the ZyXEL has to be "in the chain" so they can enter the account username/password. I can put the ZyXEL in bridge mode and connect it to my OpenWRT router. My concern is starting out with 3 routers in a chain with 2 of them in bridge mode. Is this a practical performance problem or just a theoretical problem? Thanks for you help R.Parr, RHCE, Temporal Arts, Portland, OR ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
