Re: [PLUG] streaming tomorrow's meeting ?
On 5/2/18 5:34 PM, J. Hart wrote: I was wondering if tomorrow's meeting was to be streamed. I'm out in the wilds of Western NY near the Canadian border where Microsoft reigns supreme, civilization is only a rumor, and Linux is pretty much unknown. I'm considering a move to Portland in the future, and am looking for Linux groups out that way. I'd like to follow the meeting if possible, and get a feel for the activity in your user group. Well, probably, but my speaker cancelled. It will be free-form short of my offer of a talk or two. You've had plenty of me. Maybe we do lightning talks... Michael Dexter PLUG Volunteer ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors
Same here good old Thinkpad with a dock and you are good, I have tried several other laptops and always come back to the Thinkpad for all of my doin's. On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > I use Thinkpad + dock for exactly that setup. > > It works without any trouble, does not need discrete graphics - saving > power and weight, external monitors + headset + ... stays connected, no > messing with cables, just positives. No drivers, no Linux problems. > > My office HP elite book with dock works similarly well. > > Tomas > > On Wed, May 2, 2018, 5:06 PM Matt McKenzie wrote: > > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:56 PM c wrote: > > > > > If it would only take you a few minutes to see if the external monitors > > > worked on the 7450 with a mint usb stick, I would definitely appreciate > > it. > > > > > > I thought Dell wasn't making anything but the usb-c and thunderbolt > docks > > > now and I read some pretty bad reviews that led me to believe I needed > to > > > give up on using a dock and just get something with 2 decent video outs > > on > > > it. > > > > > > Purcell > > > > > > > > OK I put the 7450 on a dock with 2 monitors connected by DVI, and booted > a > > live Linux Mint USB. > > All 3 screens (including the built in) work normally, with extended > display > > so I could put program windows on all 3. > > So basically, Linux report on 7450, it works like a champ :) > > > > You are correct, Dell does not *currently* make any more e-docks or > > computers that support them. > > Thus my caveat if you were OK to get something "pre-owned". > > > > The 7450 is not a current model but is still new-ish, it has available i5 > > 5300 CPU, I think maxes out at 16GB DDR3 RAM, SSD capable, and lots of > > ports including ethernet. > > Plus it has the important e-dock connector as mentioned. They can be had > > on eBay or other second hand sources. > > Since this is a Latitude it is the "business" line instead of the "home > > user" line so is built to last a bit better IMHO. > > > > Also as a point of reference, the new models like 7480, which use USB-C > > dock, work well enough. With our Windows users, yeah there are issues > here > > and there. > > But then the older style docks weren't 100% perfect either. But like many > > others I do personally prefer the real dock with the PCI-connected > e-port, > > instead of the USB-C port replicator. > > > > I have tested a 7480 with Linux (worked fine) but not with the dock yet. > > > > If I were in the market for a good reliable laptop, a slightly older > > Latitude like a 7450 would be my choice, since it can still use the > e-port > > dock, has many built in ports, etc. > > YMMV, my $0.02 etc. > > > > Matt M. > > LinuxKnight > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Matt McKenzie > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:19 PM c wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm starting to research laptop options for my new work machine. I > > like > > > > to > > > > > run ubuntu and I really want to get a laptop that I can connect to > > my 2 > > > > > desktop monitors for most of my use. (yes I basically want > something > > > that > > > > > functions like a docked machine/desktop, except for the ability to > > take > > > > it > > > > > to meetups, travelling, etc.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For this kind of use case, I would suggest look into a laptop that > can > > > use > > > > a dock. > > > > You mention Dell Precision, that is one way to go. > > > > > > > > I would also suggest looking into Dell Latitude, if you are not > opposed > > > to > > > > used models. > > > > The current Latitudes no longer have the Dell e-port that supports > the > > > > hardware dock (that connects directly to the motherboard PCI bus, not > > > USB). > > > > The last e-port capable Latitudes I think are 7470 or somewhere > around > > > > there. > > > > Our current issue laptops at $work are 7480s and have USB-C for > > docking, > > > no > > > > more e-port dock. > > > > > > > > But if you go with say a 7470, or 7450, and an e-dock, you can > connect > > > dual > > > > monitors with DisplayPort or DVI, and its connected directly to PCI > bus > > > and > > > > not USB. > > > > > > > > I have a 7450 here with dock and monitors, I can throw a live Fedora > or > > > > Mint USB stick on it and test if you would like the results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that as long as I get something with a discrete video > card, I > > > > > should be fine with connecting 2 external monitors with one rotated > > 90 > > > > > degrees. I tried with a laptop with onboard graphics and rotated > > > monitors > > > > > would never work. From some research it looks like. Other people > have > > > had > > > > > luck with multiple external monitors and rotation on linux as long > as > > > > they > > > > > were using nvidia cards. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone on the LUG running a Dell precision laptop with multiple > > > external > > > > > monitors? Just curious if anyone ha
Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication
I'm using FreeIPA here at home; As a product, it's really just a bunch of scripts and a web interface for LDAP+Kerberos+Certificate management+Samba; It aims to be a complete identity management system, a product designed to compete with (Or at the very least, perform an analogous set of tasks to) ActiveDirectory. It is completely open source, developed by Red Hat, for Fedora, and I use it on CentOS, but it is available for a number of other distros. (Full disclosure: I do happen to use ActiveDirectory to store my user accounts, and FreeIPA authenticates through an AD Interforest Trust, but that's far from a requirement, and it probably causes me more grief than many admins would tolerate) As for reading, I learned everything I know from their documentation: https://www.freeipa.org/page/Documentation On Wed, May 2, 2018, 20:01 Thomas Groman wrote: > Do you have any book or other resource recommendations for setting these > up? I already do sysadmin work, just never done centralized auth before. > > > On 05/02/2018 07:53 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > > The easiest is to pick LDAP or NIS, both work very well on Linux. With or > > without Kerberos for local small setup. > > > > NIS with NFS for file sharing would be probably the simplest setup, but > you > > will eventually wish you had LDAP for integration with various other > > services. > > > > LDAP + Kerberos + NFS is probably the most common and extensible > solution. > > You will absolutely need local DNS and NTP to get it going, but it is > well > > integrated extensible solution. > > > > Another option would be to uses Samba - it combines LDAP + Kerberos, so > it > > has less moving parts and can accept Windows hosts without much headache, > > compared to LDAP and Kerberos. > > > > For both solution, you might need some enterprise admin to help setting > it > > up. If well and simply setup, it is not difficult to maintain and manage. > > IMHO > > > > Tomas > > > > On Wed, May 2, 2018, 5:36 PM Smith, Cathy wrote: > > > >> There used to be dns, ldap, kerberos, nis. These are open source > >> protocols and not restricted to Microsoft. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Cathy L. Smith > >> IT Engineer > >> > >> Pacific Northwest National Laboratory > >> Operated by Battelle for the > >> U.S. Department of Energy > >> > >> Phone: 509.375.2687 > >> Fax: 509.375.4399 > >> Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org] On > >> Behalf Of Thomas Groman > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 5:16 PM > >> To: plug@pdxlinux.org > >> Subject: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication > >> > >> Has anyone ever made a 100% UNIX/BSD/Linux network with centralized > >> authentication? Using native protocols not some sort of strange > Microsoft > >> AD mesh thing. > >> I wanted to build a hacker-space for a school and since it would be > >> starting from scratch there's no reason to get locked in to a Microsoft > >> product from the start. Also the Microsoft's protocols are not open > source > >> and hard to debug. They never really work well with UNIX like operating > >> systems requiring id/group mapping and such. > >> ___ > >> PLUG mailing list > >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org > >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >> ___ > >> PLUG mailing list > >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org > >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >> > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication
Do you have any book or other resource recommendations for setting these up? I already do sysadmin work, just never done centralized auth before. On 05/02/2018 07:53 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > The easiest is to pick LDAP or NIS, both work very well on Linux. With or > without Kerberos for local small setup. > > NIS with NFS for file sharing would be probably the simplest setup, but you > will eventually wish you had LDAP for integration with various other > services. > > LDAP + Kerberos + NFS is probably the most common and extensible solution. > You will absolutely need local DNS and NTP to get it going, but it is well > integrated extensible solution. > > Another option would be to uses Samba - it combines LDAP + Kerberos, so it > has less moving parts and can accept Windows hosts without much headache, > compared to LDAP and Kerberos. > > For both solution, you might need some enterprise admin to help setting it > up. If well and simply setup, it is not difficult to maintain and manage. > IMHO > > Tomas > > On Wed, May 2, 2018, 5:36 PM Smith, Cathy wrote: > >> There used to be dns, ldap, kerberos, nis. These are open source >> protocols and not restricted to Microsoft. >> >> >> -- >> Cathy L. Smith >> IT Engineer >> >> Pacific Northwest National Laboratory >> Operated by Battelle for the >> U.S. Department of Energy >> >> Phone: 509.375.2687 >> Fax: 509.375.4399 >> Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org] On >> Behalf Of Thomas Groman >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 5:16 PM >> To: plug@pdxlinux.org >> Subject: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication >> >> Has anyone ever made a 100% UNIX/BSD/Linux network with centralized >> authentication? Using native protocols not some sort of strange Microsoft >> AD mesh thing. >> I wanted to build a hacker-space for a school and since it would be >> starting from scratch there's no reason to get locked in to a Microsoft >> product from the start. Also the Microsoft's protocols are not open source >> and hard to debug. They never really work well with UNIX like operating >> systems requiring id/group mapping and such. >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication
The easiest is to pick LDAP or NIS, both work very well on Linux. With or without Kerberos for local small setup. NIS with NFS for file sharing would be probably the simplest setup, but you will eventually wish you had LDAP for integration with various other services. LDAP + Kerberos + NFS is probably the most common and extensible solution. You will absolutely need local DNS and NTP to get it going, but it is well integrated extensible solution. Another option would be to uses Samba - it combines LDAP + Kerberos, so it has less moving parts and can accept Windows hosts without much headache, compared to LDAP and Kerberos. For both solution, you might need some enterprise admin to help setting it up. If well and simply setup, it is not difficult to maintain and manage. IMHO Tomas On Wed, May 2, 2018, 5:36 PM Smith, Cathy wrote: > There used to be dns, ldap, kerberos, nis. These are open source > protocols and not restricted to Microsoft. > > > -- > Cathy L. Smith > IT Engineer > > Pacific Northwest National Laboratory > Operated by Battelle for the > U.S. Department of Energy > > Phone: 509.375.2687 > Fax: 509.375.4399 > Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov > > > > -Original Message- > From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org] On > Behalf Of Thomas Groman > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 5:16 PM > To: plug@pdxlinux.org > Subject: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication > > Has anyone ever made a 100% UNIX/BSD/Linux network with centralized > authentication? Using native protocols not some sort of strange Microsoft > AD mesh thing. > I wanted to build a hacker-space for a school and since it would be > starting from scratch there's no reason to get locked in to a Microsoft > product from the start. Also the Microsoft's protocols are not open source > and hard to debug. They never really work well with UNIX like operating > systems requiring id/group mapping and such. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors
I use Thinkpad + dock for exactly that setup. It works without any trouble, does not need discrete graphics - saving power and weight, external monitors + headset + ... stays connected, no messing with cables, just positives. No drivers, no Linux problems. My office HP elite book with dock works similarly well. Tomas On Wed, May 2, 2018, 5:06 PM Matt McKenzie wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:56 PM c wrote: > > > If it would only take you a few minutes to see if the external monitors > > worked on the 7450 with a mint usb stick, I would definitely appreciate > it. > > > > I thought Dell wasn't making anything but the usb-c and thunderbolt docks > > now and I read some pretty bad reviews that led me to believe I needed to > > give up on using a dock and just get something with 2 decent video outs > on > > it. > > > > Purcell > > > > > OK I put the 7450 on a dock with 2 monitors connected by DVI, and booted a > live Linux Mint USB. > All 3 screens (including the built in) work normally, with extended display > so I could put program windows on all 3. > So basically, Linux report on 7450, it works like a champ :) > > You are correct, Dell does not *currently* make any more e-docks or > computers that support them. > Thus my caveat if you were OK to get something "pre-owned". > > The 7450 is not a current model but is still new-ish, it has available i5 > 5300 CPU, I think maxes out at 16GB DDR3 RAM, SSD capable, and lots of > ports including ethernet. > Plus it has the important e-dock connector as mentioned. They can be had > on eBay or other second hand sources. > Since this is a Latitude it is the "business" line instead of the "home > user" line so is built to last a bit better IMHO. > > Also as a point of reference, the new models like 7480, which use USB-C > dock, work well enough. With our Windows users, yeah there are issues here > and there. > But then the older style docks weren't 100% perfect either. But like many > others I do personally prefer the real dock with the PCI-connected e-port, > instead of the USB-C port replicator. > > I have tested a 7480 with Linux (worked fine) but not with the dock yet. > > If I were in the market for a good reliable laptop, a slightly older > Latitude like a 7450 would be my choice, since it can still use the e-port > dock, has many built in ports, etc. > YMMV, my $0.02 etc. > > Matt M. > LinuxKnight > > > > > > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Matt McKenzie > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:19 PM c wrote: > > > > > > > I'm starting to research laptop options for my new work machine. I > like > > > to > > > > run ubuntu and I really want to get a laptop that I can connect to > my 2 > > > > desktop monitors for most of my use. (yes I basically want something > > that > > > > functions like a docked machine/desktop, except for the ability to > take > > > it > > > > to meetups, travelling, etc.) > > > > > > > > > > > For this kind of use case, I would suggest look into a laptop that can > > use > > > a dock. > > > You mention Dell Precision, that is one way to go. > > > > > > I would also suggest looking into Dell Latitude, if you are not opposed > > to > > > used models. > > > The current Latitudes no longer have the Dell e-port that supports the > > > hardware dock (that connects directly to the motherboard PCI bus, not > > USB). > > > The last e-port capable Latitudes I think are 7470 or somewhere around > > > there. > > > Our current issue laptops at $work are 7480s and have USB-C for > docking, > > no > > > more e-port dock. > > > > > > But if you go with say a 7470, or 7450, and an e-dock, you can connect > > dual > > > monitors with DisplayPort or DVI, and its connected directly to PCI bus > > and > > > not USB. > > > > > > I have a 7450 here with dock and monitors, I can throw a live Fedora or > > > Mint USB stick on it and test if you would like the results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that as long as I get something with a discrete video card, I > > > > should be fine with connecting 2 external monitors with one rotated > 90 > > > > degrees. I tried with a laptop with onboard graphics and rotated > > monitors > > > > would never work. From some research it looks like. Other people have > > had > > > > luck with multiple external monitors and rotation on linux as long as > > > they > > > > were using nvidia cards. > > > > > > > > Anyone on the LUG running a Dell precision laptop with multiple > > external > > > > monitors? Just curious if anyone had found they had an easy or a > > > miserable > > > > time with them. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Purcell > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt M. > > > LinuxKnight > > > ___ > > > PLUG mailing list > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Darkness spoons with you. > > ___ > > PLUG ma
Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication
There used to be dns, ldap, kerberos, nis. These are open source protocols and not restricted to Microsoft. -- Cathy L. Smith IT Engineer Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Operated by Battelle for the U.S. Department of Energy Phone: 509.375.2687 Fax: 509.375.4399 Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov -Original Message- From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Groman Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 5:16 PM To: plug@pdxlinux.org Subject: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication Has anyone ever made a 100% UNIX/BSD/Linux network with centralized authentication? Using native protocols not some sort of strange Microsoft AD mesh thing. I wanted to build a hacker-space for a school and since it would be starting from scratch there's no reason to get locked in to a Microsoft product from the start. Also the Microsoft's protocols are not open source and hard to debug. They never really work well with UNIX like operating systems requiring id/group mapping and such. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] streaming tomorrow's meeting ?
I was wondering if tomorrow's meeting was to be streamed. I'm out in the wilds of Western NY near the Canadian border where Microsoft reigns supreme, civilization is only a rumor, and Linux is pretty much unknown. I'm considering a move to Portland in the future, and am looking for Linux groups out that way. I'd like to follow the meeting if possible, and get a feel for the activity in your user group. Regards, J. Hart ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Linux centralized authentication
Has anyone ever made a 100% UNIX/BSD/Linux network with centralized authentication? Using native protocols not some sort of strange Microsoft AD mesh thing. I wanted to build a hacker-space for a school and since it would be starting from scratch there's no reason to get locked in to a Microsoft product from the start. Also the Microsoft's protocols are not open source and hard to debug. They never really work well with UNIX like operating systems requiring id/group mapping and such. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:56 PM c wrote: > If it would only take you a few minutes to see if the external monitors > worked on the 7450 with a mint usb stick, I would definitely appreciate it. > > I thought Dell wasn't making anything but the usb-c and thunderbolt docks > now and I read some pretty bad reviews that led me to believe I needed to > give up on using a dock and just get something with 2 decent video outs on > it. > > Purcell > > OK I put the 7450 on a dock with 2 monitors connected by DVI, and booted a live Linux Mint USB. All 3 screens (including the built in) work normally, with extended display so I could put program windows on all 3. So basically, Linux report on 7450, it works like a champ :) You are correct, Dell does not *currently* make any more e-docks or computers that support them. Thus my caveat if you were OK to get something "pre-owned". The 7450 is not a current model but is still new-ish, it has available i5 5300 CPU, I think maxes out at 16GB DDR3 RAM, SSD capable, and lots of ports including ethernet. Plus it has the important e-dock connector as mentioned. They can be had on eBay or other second hand sources. Since this is a Latitude it is the "business" line instead of the "home user" line so is built to last a bit better IMHO. Also as a point of reference, the new models like 7480, which use USB-C dock, work well enough. With our Windows users, yeah there are issues here and there. But then the older style docks weren't 100% perfect either. But like many others I do personally prefer the real dock with the PCI-connected e-port, instead of the USB-C port replicator. I have tested a 7480 with Linux (worked fine) but not with the dock yet. If I were in the market for a good reliable laptop, a slightly older Latitude like a 7450 would be my choice, since it can still use the e-port dock, has many built in ports, etc. YMMV, my $0.02 etc. Matt M. LinuxKnight > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Matt McKenzie wrote: > > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:19 PM c wrote: > > > > > I'm starting to research laptop options for my new work machine. I like > > to > > > run ubuntu and I really want to get a laptop that I can connect to my 2 > > > desktop monitors for most of my use. (yes I basically want something > that > > > functions like a docked machine/desktop, except for the ability to take > > it > > > to meetups, travelling, etc.) > > > > > > > > For this kind of use case, I would suggest look into a laptop that can > use > > a dock. > > You mention Dell Precision, that is one way to go. > > > > I would also suggest looking into Dell Latitude, if you are not opposed > to > > used models. > > The current Latitudes no longer have the Dell e-port that supports the > > hardware dock (that connects directly to the motherboard PCI bus, not > USB). > > The last e-port capable Latitudes I think are 7470 or somewhere around > > there. > > Our current issue laptops at $work are 7480s and have USB-C for docking, > no > > more e-port dock. > > > > But if you go with say a 7470, or 7450, and an e-dock, you can connect > dual > > monitors with DisplayPort or DVI, and its connected directly to PCI bus > and > > not USB. > > > > I have a 7450 here with dock and monitors, I can throw a live Fedora or > > Mint USB stick on it and test if you would like the results. > > > > > > > > > I think that as long as I get something with a discrete video card, I > > > should be fine with connecting 2 external monitors with one rotated 90 > > > degrees. I tried with a laptop with onboard graphics and rotated > monitors > > > would never work. From some research it looks like. Other people have > had > > > luck with multiple external monitors and rotation on linux as long as > > they > > > were using nvidia cards. > > > > > > Anyone on the LUG running a Dell precision laptop with multiple > external > > > monitors? Just curious if anyone had found they had an easy or a > > miserable > > > time with them. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Purcell > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > Matt M. > > LinuxKnight > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > -- > Darkness spoons with you. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors
If it would only take you a few minutes to see if the external monitors worked on the 7450 with a mint usb stick, I would definitely appreciate it. I thought Dell wasn't making anything but the usb-c and thunderbolt docks now and I read some pretty bad reviews that led me to believe I needed to give up on using a dock and just get something with 2 decent video outs on it. Purcell On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Matt McKenzie wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:19 PM c wrote: > > > I'm starting to research laptop options for my new work machine. I like > to > > run ubuntu and I really want to get a laptop that I can connect to my 2 > > desktop monitors for most of my use. (yes I basically want something that > > functions like a docked machine/desktop, except for the ability to take > it > > to meetups, travelling, etc.) > > > > > For this kind of use case, I would suggest look into a laptop that can use > a dock. > You mention Dell Precision, that is one way to go. > > I would also suggest looking into Dell Latitude, if you are not opposed to > used models. > The current Latitudes no longer have the Dell e-port that supports the > hardware dock (that connects directly to the motherboard PCI bus, not USB). > The last e-port capable Latitudes I think are 7470 or somewhere around > there. > Our current issue laptops at $work are 7480s and have USB-C for docking, no > more e-port dock. > > But if you go with say a 7470, or 7450, and an e-dock, you can connect dual > monitors with DisplayPort or DVI, and its connected directly to PCI bus and > not USB. > > I have a 7450 here with dock and monitors, I can throw a live Fedora or > Mint USB stick on it and test if you would like the results. > > > > > I think that as long as I get something with a discrete video card, I > > should be fine with connecting 2 external monitors with one rotated 90 > > degrees. I tried with a laptop with onboard graphics and rotated monitors > > would never work. From some research it looks like. Other people have had > > luck with multiple external monitors and rotation on linux as long as > they > > were using nvidia cards. > > > > Anyone on the LUG running a Dell precision laptop with multiple external > > monitors? Just curious if anyone had found they had an easy or a > miserable > > time with them. > > > > Thanks, > > Purcell > > ___ > > > > > Matt M. > LinuxKnight > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- Darkness spoons with you. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] BAH. Speaker Cancelled
Hello all, The speaker I had lined up needs to be back in Seattle by meeting time. Does anyone have a talk up their sleeve? I do but it's about Switching to BSD and... I see I gave the beta version two years ago after I last gave it at LFNW. Any hot topics to have an open discussion about? All the best, Michael Dexter PLUG Volunteer ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:19 PM c wrote: > I'm starting to research laptop options for my new work machine. I like to > run ubuntu and I really want to get a laptop that I can connect to my 2 > desktop monitors for most of my use. (yes I basically want something that > functions like a docked machine/desktop, except for the ability to take it > to meetups, travelling, etc.) > > For this kind of use case, I would suggest look into a laptop that can use a dock. You mention Dell Precision, that is one way to go. I would also suggest looking into Dell Latitude, if you are not opposed to used models. The current Latitudes no longer have the Dell e-port that supports the hardware dock (that connects directly to the motherboard PCI bus, not USB). The last e-port capable Latitudes I think are 7470 or somewhere around there. Our current issue laptops at $work are 7480s and have USB-C for docking, no more e-port dock. But if you go with say a 7470, or 7450, and an e-dock, you can connect dual monitors with DisplayPort or DVI, and its connected directly to PCI bus and not USB. I have a 7450 here with dock and monitors, I can throw a live Fedora or Mint USB stick on it and test if you would like the results. > I think that as long as I get something with a discrete video card, I > should be fine with connecting 2 external monitors with one rotated 90 > degrees. I tried with a laptop with onboard graphics and rotated monitors > would never work. From some research it looks like. Other people have had > luck with multiple external monitors and rotation on linux as long as they > were using nvidia cards. > > Anyone on the LUG running a Dell precision laptop with multiple external > monitors? Just curious if anyone had found they had an easy or a miserable > time with them. > > Thanks, > Purcell > ___ > Matt M. LinuxKnight ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors
Doubt you'll have any problems, I run a latitude with Ubuntu and a dual monitor setup (and have done so with other previous Dell laptops) and never had any. I do avoid things like plugging/unplugging while the laptop is asleep though, so can't speak to that. Might want to consider an Ubuntu blessed laptop just to let Dell know they're on the right track: http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop_us On Wed, May 2, 2018, 12:19 PM c wrote: > I'm starting to research laptop options for my new work machine. I like to > run ubuntu and I really want to get a laptop that I can connect to my 2 > desktop monitors for most of my use. (yes I basically want something that > functions like a docked machine/desktop, except for the ability to take it > to meetups, travelling, etc.) > > I think that as long as I get something with a discrete video card, I > should be fine with connecting 2 external monitors with one rotated 90 > degrees. I tried with a laptop with onboard graphics and rotated monitors > would never work. From some research it looks like. Other people have had > luck with multiple external monitors and rotation on linux as long as they > were using nvidia cards. > > Anyone on the LUG running a Dell precision laptop with multiple external > monitors? Just curious if anyone had found they had an easy or a miserable > time with them. > > Thanks, > Purcell > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors
On Wed, 2 May 2018 20:04:08 + "Smith, Cathy" dijo: >You may want to check out System 76. > https://system76.com/laptops +1 for System76. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors
You may want to check out System 76. https://system76.com/laptops -- Cathy L. Smith IT Engineer Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Operated by Battelle for the U.S. Department of Energy Phone: 509.375.2687 Fax: 509.375.4399 Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov -Original Message- From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org] On Behalf Of c Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 12:20 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: [PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors I'm starting to research laptop options for my new work machine. I like to run ubuntu and I really want to get a laptop that I can connect to my 2 desktop monitors for most of my use. (yes I basically want something that functions like a docked machine/desktop, except for the ability to take it to meetups, travelling, etc.) I think that as long as I get something with a discrete video card, I should be fine with connecting 2 external monitors with one rotated 90 degrees. I tried with a laptop with onboard graphics and rotated monitors would never work. From some research it looks like. Other people have had luck with multiple external monitors and rotation on linux as long as they were using nvidia cards. Anyone on the LUG running a Dell precision laptop with multiple external monitors? Just curious if anyone had found they had an easy or a miserable time with them. Thanks, Purcell ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Looking for a new ubuntu laptop to connect to 2 external monitors
I'm starting to research laptop options for my new work machine. I like to run ubuntu and I really want to get a laptop that I can connect to my 2 desktop monitors for most of my use. (yes I basically want something that functions like a docked machine/desktop, except for the ability to take it to meetups, travelling, etc.) I think that as long as I get something with a discrete video card, I should be fine with connecting 2 external monitors with one rotated 90 degrees. I tried with a laptop with onboard graphics and rotated monitors would never work. From some research it looks like. Other people have had luck with multiple external monitors and rotation on linux as long as they were using nvidia cards. Anyone on the LUG running a Dell precision laptop with multiple external monitors? Just curious if anyone had found they had an easy or a miserable time with them. Thanks, Purcell ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Resolved: Computer Name
On 04/30/2018 11:22 AM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: On 2018-04-29 22:28, Dick Steffens wrote: I understand that computer names are somewhat arbitrary. I know a group that named their computers after the seven dwarfs. I tend to name my by the brand/model of the machine since it is rare that I ever have two alike. My two most recent machines were built by ENU (R.I.P). I named them ENU-1 and ENU-2. When I installed Ubuntu MATE 18.04 on the box I call ENU-1 I tried to use that name. The complaint was that there was already a computer on the network with that name, so for the time being I named it ENU-1.1. Two questions. 1. How did the install process know there was a computer named ENU-1, if ENU-1 wasn't there? Did it find it through a table in the router? 2. If I change that table will everybody be happy? (I have a list of computers in the router so that they always get assigned the same IP address.) This sounds like the DHCP lease or configuration table. Yes you can change it and everyone will be happy. Names are completely arbitrary. The next time I powered up the machine it came up as ENU-1. I went to change it, but didn't need to. Somewhat odd, but I have what I want, now, so I'm happy. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
