Re: H1B Visa

[Lyle Tuttle]

Yes, and it was in AUGUST 2015  and I did not bring it up again

At 09:16 AM 12/12/2016, der.hans wrote:

Am 12. Dec, 2016 schwätzte Lyle Tuttle so:

moin moin,


No - who SHARED that FACT.


It was completely off-topic when it was posted. It has nothing to do with
Free Software, *NIX or technology whatsoever. Additionally, speculation
about someone's private life is bad form for this list.

ciao,

der.hans


At 12:22 AM 12/12/2016, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 23:12:45 -0700 Lyle Tuttle 
 wrote: > No, they are 
beginners in their life; learning how to work, 
building > their skills in order to earn 
more. > > And now, back to PLUG Says the 
always on-topic l.tut...@cox.net who started 
the infamous "no wedding band" Obama critique 
on 8/29/2015: 
http://lists.phxlinux.org/lurker/message/20150829.125443.e1624a60.en.html 
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Re: H1B Visa

[Lyle Tuttle]

No - who SHARED that FACT.

At 12:22 AM 12/12/2016, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 23:12:45 -0700 Lyle Tuttle  
wrote: > No, they are beginners in their life; learning how to work, 
building > their skills in order to earn more. > > And now, back 
to PLUG Says the always on-topic l.tut...@cox.net who started the 
infamous "no wedding band" Obama critique on 8/29/2015: 
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Re: H1B Visa

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 10:45 PM 12/11/2016, David Schwartz wrote:


On Dec 11, 2016, at 8:58 PM, l.tuttle  wrote:
Well Shucks what are we waiting for let's raise the minimum wage to 
$200 an hour


People who make a non-living wage are basically slaves.


No, they are beginners in their life; learning how to work, building 
their skills in order to earn more.


And now, back to PLUG



So why not just call a spade a spade, and bring back slavery instead?
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Re: H1B Visa

[Lyle Tuttle]

OOPS:  RE:  test scoresnever listen to guesses!!

"Jeffrey S. Raikes School students are selected from the nation's top 
high school graduates. The average ACT score for a student at the 
Raikes School is a 33.5 (SAT a 1480 for combined two tests of 
Critical Reading and Math). "



At 10:07 AM 11/8/2016, Keith Smith wrote:
Hi, While at the polls I talked with a man running for Chandler City 
Council who told me the H1B Visa was necessary because there are not 
enough qualified Americans to fill those positions. I do not 
agree.  And if it is true then why, for example, is there no 
Microsoft University that finds those with the talent and help 
develop them into the qualified employee they are looking for?  It 
is my understanding M$ is one of the biggest users of the H1B Visa 
program. This is an example of there not being an 
shortage.  -->>  McDonald's lays off 70 American accountants from 
Ohio and gives their jobs to foreign workers as part of cost-cutting 
exercise 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3800381/McDonald-s-lays-70-American-accountants-Ohio-gives-jobs-foreign-workers-cost-cutting-measure.html 
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Re: H1B Visa

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 10:07 AM 11/8/2016, Keith Smith wrote:
Hi, While at the polls I talked with a man running for Chandler City 
Council who told me the H1B Visa was necessary because there are not 
enough qualified Americans to fill those positions. I do not 
agree.  And if it is true then why, for example, is there no 
Microsoft University that finds those with the talent and help 
develop them into the qualified employee they are looking for?


I'll know more soon, I hope - our grandson (HS Junior) is looking 
hard at this:  http://raikes.unl.edu/?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1


I think you need a SAT of >30?

 It is my understanding M$ is one of the biggest users of the H1B 
Visa program. This is an example of there not being an 
shortage.  -->>  McDonald's lays off 70 American accountants from 
Ohio and gives their jobs to foreign workers as part of 
cost-cutting exercise 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3800381/McDonald-s-lays-70-American-accountants-Ohio-gives-jobs-foreign-workers-cost-cutting-measure.html 
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Re: An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 12:46 PM 8/30/2016, Steve Litt wrote:
and sleazy little extortionists
(the guy who registered coke.com). 
Maybe he was not (I don't know) a 'sleazy little extortionist", but
someone like me, who, as a franchised Culligan Dealer, begged and pleaded
with Culligan, Inc to register their domain nameand finally, they
told me to go ahead and do it if I thought it was important, which I
didI then asked them to have their legal dept taker a look at my
website for my business to make sure they were comfortable with
it...at that time, they could not FIND the internet, let
alone take a look at my site..
You may wonder why we shed the Culligan name/Franchise not too long
after...
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Re: Cox Business Internet

[Lyle Tuttle]

I am in Park City, Utah and having my first experience with
Comcast...visualize me puking!!

At 09:18 AM 7/13/2016, Michael Butash wrote:
All the incumbent MSO's (cable)
and LEC's (ma bell) across the country are.  Cox won the first round
getting SRP as a Cox customer to NOT give fiber to Google in Phoenix with
backdoor negotiations, which caused Google's initial delay after
fanfare.  

Cable companies are doing this everywhere, trying to keep Google from
getting in on their game, from getting city permitting denied to Google
construction, to fighting to keep them off the telephone poles and deny
common carrier status.  It's all dirty delay tactics, your tax
dollars and subscription fees put to good work...
Milo Medin, the head of Google Fiber, started the Cable Modem technology
market and was responsible for @Home in the 90's that brought it to the
masses.  He saw the MSO's single-handedly kill off @home in their
greed, so he has a special interest in making them sweat and silently
subvert them for revenge.  Sadly, Google is the only one that can,
seeing they and Comcast co-own the FCC and government in their pockets
these days.
-mb

On 07/12/2016 08:30 PM, Carl Parrish wrote:
So looking forward to Google
Fiber hitting Tempe but it sounds like Cox is taking Tempe to court in
hopes of stopping it. 
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Re: SSD & Linux

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 05:26 PM 6/22/2016, Steve Litt wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:08:07 -0700
Lyle Tuttle  wrote:

> Got a new SSD to update my laptop.Samsung 850 EVO -- looks like
> the software is not compatible w/Linux Mint 17.3.anyone have a
> solution?
>
> TIA
>
> lyle

That's a mystery. I'm sitting here with Void Linux on a 256GB SSD root
partition (and some mounts on spinning disks). I didn't have to do
anything out of the ordinary.

When you say "looks like the software is not compatible w/Linux Mint
17.3", what observable phenomina lead you to that conclusion?


The message displayed plus the phone call to Samsung SSD 
supportwho told me that Linux was difficult to work with, 
etc.I told him I did not appreciate his comments; I just wanted 
the solution - no help - we can't troubleshoot/repair/diagnose etc.


Was not supportive at all!

I have now went to an older HD I still had that was a dual boot with 
Windows 7 prof on it - will try to do it from there...



 What
messages and beeps (if any) do you see and hear? How far does it get
into the boot?

SteveT

Steve Litt
June 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother?
http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb
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SSD & Linux

[Lyle Tuttle]

Got a new SSD to update my laptop.Samsung 850 EVO -- looks like 
the software is not compatible w/Linux Mint 17.3.anyone have a solution?


TIA

lyle

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Re: hd and internet and HD antenna

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 06:41 AM 11/14/2015, Michael Havens wrote:
I was wondering: if we can do TV over the air in 
HD at the full 1080 why can't we do high speed 
internet through an antenna as well? Oh wait a 
second... my parents were doing that but it 
really sucked but that was only a cottonwood 
company so quality wasn't their main focus as 
the options were really limited. I think there 
should be like a PBS for the internet free internet for EVERYONE.Â


THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH -- ANYWHERE!  They may be 
putting them out on consignment, but someone always pays!


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you are still not safe

[Lyle Tuttle]

Not only with windoz 10 now.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/30/windows-10-spying-on-windows-7-and-windows-8/

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Re: give-a-way

[Lyle Tuttle]

Sorry Eric; it is gone.

At 02:58 PM 7/25/2015, Eric Oyen wrote:
I could certainly use that here. I have a bunch of older drives and 
need a cage for them. you may have to drop it by here, I can't drive 
and the bus would take too damned long in this heat.


-eric
(623)399-5635


On Jul 25, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote:

> Anyone interested in this?  Free to a good home...
>
> http://www.overclockers.com/vantec-nexstar-3i/
>
> Near 117th Ave and Bell Rd
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give-a-way

[Lyle Tuttle]

Anyone interested in this?  Free to a good home...

http://www.overclockers.com/vantec-nexstar-3i/

Near 117th Ave and Bell Rd

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OT - sort of

[Lyle Tuttle]

OK, the hard drive on my windows box is getting old, and every now 
and then during startup, I hear a short burst of "chattering"..no 
such problem on my Linux laptop, but it does not get as much use, either...


I want to replace my aging hard drive with a solid state unit.

Suggestions?  Advice?  Personal experiences to share?

My Dell System was purchased in December 2010 (I but them heavily 
loaded, and hope they will still be good for a long time, 
hardware-wise.), and runs all day, every day I am home, which is most 
of the timeI started it shortly b4 5am today and will shut down 
about 10pmtypical day.I consider it pretty heavy use.


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part needed

[Lyle Tuttle]

Looking for the on/off microswitch for a HP Pavilion - anyone have one?

lyle

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Vulnerable??

[Lyle Tuttle]

https://gigaom.com/2015/01/28/severe-ghost-flaw-leaves-linux-systems-vulnerable-to-takeover/

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Re: Why have HackFests been Dropped from the PLUG Schedule?

[Lyle Tuttle]

Gee Lisa, I'm not sure I understand all of this, but at
least it written in English!!
At 08:22 AM 11/30/2014, Lisa Kachold wrote:
Hans/(All),
PLUG (aka Hans [since actually no leadership was ever allowed] is going
to have to state the rules under which you are "dismissing" via
schedule removal a healthy regular popular venue. 
PLUG (aka Hans "Luft") Â is going to have to reference when
those rules were published and when they were delivered to me. 
EVERYONE has historically had their own website, because PLUG does not
allow:
1) Specific wording in announcements.
2) Submitting additional announcements and extensive innovative
content.
3) Presentation postings.
Examples of other historic users (in good standing) with their own
websites to support their presentations and community endeavors
include:
Ryan Rix
Alan Dayley
Joseph Sinclair
Brian Cluff
Alexander Henry
The PLUG (lack of structure and rules/guidelines) consistent with other
cities of comparable sizes (specific examples are Seattle, Los Angeles
and Portland) has kept the group from becoming all that a LUG can be. Â

Older retired penguins have devoted thousands of hours and dollars each
year purchasing their own equipment for community venues like Installfest
without anyone in PLUG "leadership" even getting a 501(c)3
rider under another PLUG to allow income tax relief.
Here's a long list of past discussions that echo these limitations and
issues:




http://208.77.223.83/lurker/message/20100205.085425.dbace92f.en.html


http://208.77.223.83/lurker/message/20130508.020509.d70d1744.en.html


http://208.77.223.83/lurker/message/20090806.163922.37c4d455.en.html


http://208.77.223.83/lurker/message/20101108.063046.7219d889.en.html

The ramifications of PLUG (aka Hans "Luft") limiting
announcements and venues (like the HackFest) that promote continuing
educational schools (other than Mesa Community College [where he has been
adjunct teacher]) are obvious.
The ramifications of PLUG (aka Hans "Luft")
"dropping" a 7 year successful event like the HackFest is
HUGE.
I have been long contacted by members active for many years who want
support to backup recommendations to disband the PLUG (or remove
"Presidential dictatorship") Â with a long laundry list of
reasons from sexual harassment (Example: Hans raising his wedding ring
clad finger to women as they wait to speak with him about PLUG matters
during public community events [which I have experienced twice myself]) Â
to outright misuse of funding ( [tee shirts and donations from local
businesses] and PLUG interns/students raising money for sister project
ABLEConf) as well as inappropriate steering to classes at Mesa Community
College during "OpenSource" community venues.
I have stayed out of escalation of those issues to other authorities, but
"Silence is DEATH" and a Linux Users Group where membership
live in threat of social ostracism and promote via "inner circle
relationships" (or make decisions like drop a healthy venue without
written rules or warning) is nothing more than a "GANG" and is
destined to die.
1) Please show me the rules under which removal of the HackFests from the
calendar was made?  If there was a scheduling issue, why was I not
called or allowed to reschedule?  Our security community and active
interns have been historically very changeable and this could be easily
arranged at DeVry University who also provide a rack at OneNeck.
  
2) Please show me the rules that state posting a discussion to more than
one mailing list with the same content is disallowed?   It is not
on any of the mailing list phxlinux.org
pages? Â 
3) And while we are talking about it, please show me the rules (in any
PLUG) that state that we can't have TWO PLUG EVENTS on the same
day?  Is that because the website php CMS software won't allow it?
[/LAUGH]
I have a HackFest iPhone and Android app ready (which can be released in
the next week) to submit to Google Play and Apple Store. I will happily
leave the phxlinux.org and PLUG name
out of that code.
Thanks for "allowing me" to continue to announce the HackFests
on the mailing lists. Â 
Happy ThanksGiving
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 1:08 AM, der.hans

wrote:


Am 29. Nov, 2014 schwätzte Lisa Kachold so:

moin moin Lisa,


I was curious as to why you have removed the Hackfests (2nd Saturday
of

every month) afrom the PLUG Calendar?



You've been acting as a seperate group for years. You have your own
web

site and mailing list for your group.

 



You may continue announcing your events on the list, but please
stop

cross-posting to multiple lists.

ciao,

der.hans



Hackfests have been going strong since 2008 and have students from
ITT and

strong support from DeVry where instructors provide extra credit to
their

security students for attendance.

DeVry University provides a rack for PLUG use (providing it is
actually

used in context with student related open source activities) at
OneNeck

which is populated with a VMWare ESXi 5.5 serve

Re: off topic for help

[Lyle Tuttle]

Got it resolved - Thanks Rusty and all who
responded.
At 09:34 AM 11/5/2014, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
I have a couple of questions
about plain old telephone service -- anyone have any working
knowledge?  Please contact me off-list.
TIA
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off topic for help

[Lyle Tuttle]

I have a couple of questions about plain old telephone
service -- anyone have any working knowledge?  Please contact me
off-list.
TIA
lyle


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aircraft info

[Lyle Tuttle]

Do you want to build your own FlightAware PiAware ADS-B Ground
Station?
Interesting - Pi


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Re: Question About System 76 Hardware

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 12:34 PM 8/31/2014, Brian Cluff wrote:
I was going to write a long
reply to this message, but Joseph wrote almost exactly what I was going
to say.
If you treat your laptop well and carry it in a padded bag and don't run
it in harsh environments, you'll almost certainly not need it.

snip, snip
, and the money
I've saved from not paying for the extended warranty would more than pay
for a couple of laptops.
Brian Cluff
On 08/31/2014 11:27 AM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:
I've never purchased an extended
warranty for a computer.
It's a form of insurance, so you can guarantee that, statistically, the
cost is greater than the predictive (actuarial) cost of repair or
replacement.
given that gross margins on extended warranties for electronics
(particularly computers) run in the 80%-90% range (which is why sales
pushes them so hard), you can bet that your chances of needing that
coverage are slim indeed.
I recall many years ago I attended a seminar for servicing/repairing
household appliances..(I was a young Culligan Dealer at the
time)and an attendee from Calgary, Canada shared with us how he sold
a warranty contract every time he could - then put that money into an
escrow account that was used to "pay" him whenever he provided
warranty service for his customers..as I recall, he told us that
escrow account had just under $1,000,000 in it at the time.now I do
not know how large his business was, but so what - just add or subtract
the zeros.
lyle tuttle


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Fwd: Re: Ransom Virus

[Lyle Tuttle]

Someone should have told the IRS about backups.
well, I wish your friend a lot
of luck. The encryption is very difficult to break and would likely take
longer than its worth.
This is why I strongly recommend daily backups of important data. I have
already seen this on my windows laptop. Fortunately, I had already made a
backup of the entire system. So, It was easy for me to erase using a
Linux rescue disk and then put the old OS back in place. THe only reason
for me to have windows at all around here is for some of the windows
specific applications that are able to be used with JAWS (screen reader
for the blind). All the rest of the time I spend on either the Linux
partition on this mac, or OS X (where I do all my mail).
So, there you have the lesson. Backup, backup, and more backup (even make
a backp of the backup).
-eric
On Jun 19, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Ralph Prowell wrote:
> Just recently a friend of mine opened an outlook message that asked
her to download a program that turned out to be a ransom virus and has
encrypted all of her Microsoft office files and are wanting her to pay a
ransom of $500 to get her files back.  
> 
> Has anyone had any success in retrieving these ransom files from an
infected machine?  If so please contact me if you have any ideas how
to retrieve these files.
> 
> Thank you,
> Ralph
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Is anybody there ?

[Lyle Tuttle]

X-AuthUser: l...@softwater.com



But until these two today, nothing for several (or more)
days..at least, in my mailbox?
At 09:48 AM 5/18/2014, Stephen Partington wrote:
there have been email messages
all week last week.

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:46 AM,

wrote:


Is anybody still there?

Haven't seen any PLUG messages since I posted

this a week ago ???


 Original Message 

Subject: Libre Office fonts ??

From:   
j...@actionline.com

Date:    Sun, May 11, 2014 1:53 pm

To: 

plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org

Where might I find some nice hand-writing font options

to install on Libre Office?



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MS buy Canonical?

[Lyle Tuttle]

Interesting thoughts..http://tinyurl.com/m9o4a2r

The times they are a changing..


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Re: question - Thunderbird

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 11:36 AM 4/28/2014, Ed wrote:
IF you are using Gnome3, parts
of your menu may be relocated out of the app and on to the top bar.

I could not find what they directed me to anywhere
I don't know how
far Mozilla has gone in adopting the new gnome3 libraries.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Lyle Tuttle
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wrote:


At 08:42 AM 4/28/2014, Stephen Partington wrote:

Hrmm Up to date Ubuntu 14.04, and TB 24.4.0.

Me too.


I am still using unity at this moment, and have made a few other
minor tweaks that made the whole thing happy. Taking a peek i have the
same method you do as an option, it was just not the first one i found.
Do you have an "Account Settings" on your edit
menu?

Yes.and I had tried to "manage Identities", but while
it will allow me to edit or add, I can't
delete...?

lyle



On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Stephen Partington
<cryptwo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Sorry, too many email clients at once today.

At the top: Edit -> Account Settings, the rest should be the
same.


On 04/28/2014 08:00 AM, Lyle Tuttle
wrote:
At 07:38 AM 4/28/2014, Stephen Partington
wrote:
HAH, i should read the subject first.

In Thunderbird: Go to Edit ->
Properties
No "properties" found

Click on your Account (top on your email address)
at the bottom use account actions and then remove account

This is the ubuntu 14.04 default thunderbird
install.


That is what I have:  Ubuntu 14.04; default Thunderbird
install; on Dell latitude E6500

Here is how I finally removed it:

Thunderbird; edit; preferences; advanced; config Editor...then (I
had 8 email accounts set up, counting the one I did not want - it was the
last one #8); scroll down the mail.account.account8.server; reset - do
that for all of the #8 entries PLUS delete that account from the value
line of mail.account.manager.accounts

that did it..

Now, WHY is mine different than yours?  T-bird ver 24.4.0 ;
up-to-date Ubuntu 14.04 

Curious lyle, the slow learner



On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Stephen Partington
<cryptwo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Go to "Online Accounts" click on the account you want to
remove, in the lower right there is a "Remove Account Button".
I just typed Accounts into the main search area. (this was in 14.04)

On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Lyle Tuttle
<l.tut...@cox.net> wrote:

Yes, I saw that - problem is, those instructions must be for an
earlier versionnot fount in 14.04.
I did some looking around, then did some re-config - got rid of it on
the second try..so now problem is solved.only took 1.5
days
Thanks, lyle
At 08:24 PM 4/27/2014, keith smith
wrote:
Click on the account on the left.  Then click on "view
settings for this account" in the center area.  A form will
appear, at the bottom of the left column there will be a drop down, use
it to delete an email account.

 

Keith Smith 


On Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:25 PM, Lyle Tuttle
<l.tut...@cox.net> wrote:


OK, running 14.04while trying to assist a friend, I set up a new


email account (not dominant) on my system.  Now I can't find
any info 

on how to delete that account in 14.04...and the solutions given in


earlier versions are not compatible.

Anyone have any ideas?  I do NOT want to delete his account
from the 

server; just OFF my system!! 

TIA

lyle tuttle 

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Re: question - Thunderbird

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At 08:42 AM 4/28/2014, Stephen Partington wrote:
Hrmm Up to date Ubuntu 14.04,
and TB 24.4.0.
Me too.

I am still using
unity at this moment, and have made a few other minor tweaks that made
the whole thing happy. Taking a peek i have the same method you do as an
option, it was just not the first one i found. Do you have an
"Account Settings" on your edit menu?
Yes.and I had tried to "manage Identities", but while it
will allow me to edit or add, I can't delete...?
lyle

On Mon, Apr 28,
2014 at 8:20 AM, Stephen Partington
<cryptwo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Sorry, too many email clients at once today.

At the top: Edit -> Account Settings, the rest should be the
same.


On 04/28/2014 08:00 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote:

At 07:38 AM 4/28/2014, Stephen Partington wrote:

HAH, i should read the subject first.

In Thunderbird: Go to Edit -> Properties

No "properties" found

Click on your Account (top on your email address)

at the bottom use account actions and then remove account

This is the ubuntu 14.04 default thunderbird
install.

That is what I have:  Ubuntu 14.04; default Thunderbird install;
on Dell latitude E6500

Here is how I finally removed it:

Thunderbird; edit; preferences; advanced; config Editor...then (I
had 8 email accounts set up, counting the one I did not want - it was the
last one #8); scroll down the mail.account.account8.server; reset - do
that for all of the #8 entries PLUS delete that account from the value
line of mail.account.manager.accounts

that did it..

Now, WHY is mine different than yours?  T-bird ver 24.4.0 ;
up-to-date Ubuntu 14.04 

Curious lyle, the slow learner



On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Stephen Partington
<cryptwo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Go to "Online Accounts" click on the account you want to
remove, in the lower right there is a "Remove Account Button".
I just typed Accounts into the main search area. (this was in 14.04)


On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Lyle Tuttle
<l.tut...@cox.net> wrote:

Yes, I saw that - problem is, those instructions must be for an
earlier versionnot fount in 14.04.

I did some looking around, then did some re-config - got rid of it on
the second try..so now problem is solved.only took 1.5
days

Thanks, lyle

At 08:24 PM 4/27/2014, keith smith
wrote:
Click on the account on the left.  Then click on "view
settings for this account" in the center area.  A form will
appear, at the bottom of the left column there will be a drop down, use
it to delete an email account.


 

Keith Smith 
On Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:25 PM, Lyle Tuttle
<l.tut...@cox.net> wrote:
OK, running 14.04while trying to assist a friend, I set up a new 
email account (not dominant) on my system.  Now I can't find any
info 
on how to delete that account in 14.04...and the solutions given in 
earlier versions are not compatible.

Anyone have any ideas?  I do NOT want to delete his account from
the 
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Re: question - Thunderbird

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 07:38 AM 4/28/2014, Stephen Partington wrote:
HAH, i should read the subject
first.
In Thunderbird: Go to Edit -> Properties
No "properties" found
Click on your
Account (top on your email address)
at the bottom use account actions and then remove account
This is the ubuntu 14.04 default thunderbird
install.
That is what I have:  Ubuntu 14.04; default Thunderbird install; on
Dell latitude E6500
Here is how I finally removed it:
Thunderbird; edit; preferences; advanced; config Editor...then (I had
8 email accounts set up, counting the one I did not want - it was the
last one #8); scroll down the mail.account.account8.server; reset - do
that for all of the #8 entries PLUS delete that account from the value
line of mail.account.manager.accounts
that did it..
Now, WHY is mine different than yours?  T-bird ver 24.4.0 ;
up-to-date Ubuntu 14.04 
Curious lyle, the slow learner


On Mon, Apr 28,
2014 at 7:35 AM, Stephen Partington
<cryptwo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Go to "Online Accounts" click on the account you want to
remove, in the lower right there is a "Remove Account Button".
I just typed Accounts into the main search area. (this was in
14.04)


On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Lyle Tuttle
<l.tut...@cox.net>
wrote:


Yes, I saw that - problem is, those instructions must be for an
earlier versionnot fount in 14.04.

I did some looking around, then did some re-config - got rid of it on
the second try..so now problem is solved.only took 1.5
days

Thanks, lyle

At 08:24 PM 4/27/2014, keith smith wrote:

Click on the account on the left.  Then click on "view
settings for this account" in the center area.  A form will
appear, at the bottom of the left column there will be a drop down, use
it to delete an email account.


 

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<l.tut...@cox.net>
wrote:

OK, running 14.04while trying to assist a friend, I set up a new


email account (not dominant) on my system.  Now I can't find any
info 

on how to delete that account in 14.04...and the solutions given in


earlier versions are not compatible.

Anyone have any ideas?  I do NOT want to delete his account from
the 

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TIA

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Re: question - Thunderbird

[Lyle Tuttle]

Yes, I saw that - problem is, those instructions must be for
an earlier versionnot fount in 14.04.
I did some looking around, then did some re-config - got rid of it on the
second try..so now problem is solved.only took 1.5
days
Thanks, lyle
At 08:24 PM 4/27/2014, keith smith wrote:
Click on the account on the
left.  Then click on "view settings for this account" in
the center area.  A form will appear, at the bottom of the left
column there will be a drop down, use it to delete an email
account.

 

Keith Smith
On Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:25 PM, Lyle Tuttle
 wrote:
OK, running 14.04while trying to assist a friend,
I set up a new 
email account (not dominant) on my system.  Now I can't find any
info 
on how to delete that account in 14.04...and the solutions given in 
earlier versions are not compatible.
Anyone have any ideas?  I do NOT want to delete his account from the

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TIA
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question - Thunderbird

[Lyle Tuttle]

OK, running 14.04while trying to assist a friend, I set up a new 
email account (not dominant) on my system.  Now I can't find any info 
on how to delete that account in 14.04...and the solutions given in 
earlier versions are not compatible.


Anyone have any ideas?  I do NOT want to delete his account from the 
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Re: (OT) I urge everyone to oppose TPP

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Can you tell us who is the author of the legislation and who
has signed on as supporters?  and the id#?
At 02:31 PM 1/29/2014, Dazed_75 wrote:


https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/as-free-software-users-we-need-to-speak-out-against-the-tpp
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Looks like an opening for LINUX education and assistance to
me.YOU can help save them money and at the same time increase the
number of LINUX users here in Phoenix.  

Veterans -Thank You
For Your Service To Our Country: Effective January 2014
Optical-IP-Networks will provide Disabled Veterans in the Phoenix metro
area with complimentary help desk services on an “as-available” basis for
their personal Windows® or Mac OS®, LAN and MAN devices. Call
480-381-2380 for a discussion of your performance problems or issues and
we will work together on a needs assessment, or email


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Re: Don't hold your breath

[Lyle Tuttle]

Bob, the HTML was not mine - it was in the message to the
list that I was replying to.look again!!  And my
"content" was well above that link - you could not see
it?
lyle
At 10:27 PM 11/2/2013, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at
04:53:54PM -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
Why do you insist on posting with no content except pointers to html
attachments? I assume you're aware that html is heavily frowned on in
mailing
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Re: Don't hold your breath

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At 08:30 PM 10/31/2013, Michael Butash wrote:
More like the idiot contractors
screwed up.
Yep.

Probably some
senator's nephew owns the "consulting firm",

I think the CEO is Michelle's college roommate -- and she and her husb
spent Christmas with the OBAMAs.
didn't know what
they were doing, or understanding of the expected load on their
application.  Probably didn't know what a load-balancer was, load
testing, or understand the concept of scalability.
More perfect example of governmental waste.
Absolutely!!
  Withhold
their payment for botching the job as contract failure.  Now
corporations supporting linux have to get involved to show it was just a
debauchery of wasted tax dollars and morons milking the
system.
I just hope that no fingers are pointed at Linux.but I am sure they
are looking for scapegoats!  I've bee happy with the BMW, Navy, etc
announcements - this could be a big setback for Linux.

-mb

On 10/31/2013 07:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
Tux  sweeps in to save the
day!
:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Derek Trotter
 wrote:


Says here



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/31/top-tech-experts-from-google-red-hat-oracle-sent-to-save-obamacare/


that RedHat is now involved in fixing the Obamacare website. 
Somehow I can't help but think that bringing in the odd penguin will fix
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Re: Phones With Carrier IQ Spyware Installed

[Lyle Tuttle]

Thks
At 12:13 PM 8/21/2013, George Toft wrote:
There's an app for Carrier IQ
detect.  I ran this on all my smartphones.

One of my phones was on the list, but did not have IQ installed, so I
think the list is outdated.
Regards,

George Toft
On 8/20/2013 1:53
PM, Derek Trotter wrote:

Is there a way to remove it?
On 08/20/2013 01:15 PM, eric oyen wrote:

that is definitely old news. there is a way to disable it (at least
on the iPhone). I do know that AT&T caught some flack over this and
no longer allows access by default. not sure if this is the case for
other brands of smart phone or not.

-eric


On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Dazed_75 wrote:



Carrier IQ is old news, but the current state of the investigation
was news
to me (except for it being slower than molasses in a North Dakota
winter).


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Re: Switched off Ubuntu

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At 06:02 AM 7/31/2013, Ted Gould wrote:
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 13:43
-0700, Matt Graham wrote: 


Hear hear!  I don't understand the "make everything look like
an 
iKindlNexusPad" trend.  I think it's because somebody somewhere
decided 
that tablets are the awesome hip cool thing, so everything must look 
like them,

Heh, I think those somebody somewheres were consumers that have basically
stopped buying desktops and laptops, and most surveys say that they don't
have plans to.  There still is corporate usage, and
engineers/programmers/specialists will likely always have them.  But
that's not a growth market, servicing it is likely to lead to being a
minority platform.
Case in point, my kid's old school bought a bunch of iPads so that the
kids could "learn the Apple interface."  They have no idea
what OSX is.
My question is "What did you do to educate his school that there are
other systems out there?"
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Re: I got a zip file from the government but it won't unzip properly

[Lyle Tuttle]

Might be the new update today on Libre..?  Have you
applied it?  

www.libreoffice.org/default/ 
At 02:09 PM 7/25/2013, Michael Havens wrote:
It seems to unzip fine but the
document that opens freezes libre writer and when I try to open it with
a  text editor it complains about encoding. here is the
file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q5x24uzhyrv3mo1/az-foiarefund-list.zip

Any ideas how to open it?
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Re: OT: PR Opportunity?

[Lyle Tuttle]

Just what it says in the info at the locationsexpanding
horizons - like possibly getting acquainted (or more connected) to
Linux..or PLUG
At 08:05 AM 7/9/2013, Michael Havens wrote:
what is gigaom? It just looks
like a news site. Why would they be 'visiting?'
:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Lyle Tuttle
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Why not here?  Why not by PLUG?

Expose others to PLUG

http://tinyurl.com/m6ghaqf


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OT: PR Opportunity?

[Lyle Tuttle]

Why not here?  Why not by PLUG?
Expose others to PLUG

http://tinyurl.com/m6ghaqf


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Re: OT: Secret spying on your Internet activity?

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 01:25 PM 7/3/2013, Sam Kreimeyer wrote:
Eric, I'm in the Army, so, in
part, I represent that force. I would never be complicit in any operation
against US citizens. 
Sounds like what the thought was in 1932..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sNOsIB5VMSQ


I would take
my chances being locked up in Ft. Leavenworth if it came down to it.
Force is definitely real, but the authority to use it exists only in our
minds.
See above.
 If nobody is
willing to pull the trigger in the hypothetical scenario you posited, and
I know that I am far from the only one whom would refuse such orders,
then there is no threat. If we raise children that believe in reason over
superstition and trust in ethics over authority (and live that way
ourselves when we can), eventually there will be no thugs left. While it
isn't fast or glamorous change, it is something we can work towards that
makes a positive difference.
Most of the killing, waterboarding, etc. are only possible because
Muslims have been so dehumanized in military culture (and in US culture
at large).
and are you aware that the good old USA just purchased 30,000
guillotines???  15K stored in Ga (who just passed legislation that
allows exicutions by them) and the other 15K in Montanawhat are they
for - especially when they have over 600 million rounds of hollow point
ammo???



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Re: Linux News

[Lyle Tuttle]

http://tinyurl.com/5r3nsly
At 08:00 AM 6/20/2013, Michael Havens wrote:
"Cumulus, which is building
a Linux operating system for switches that use merchant silicon,
"

What is 'merchant silicon'?
:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Lyle Tuttle
<l.tut...@cox.net>
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When it comes to a new networking OS, Linux is the Linux of
networking


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Linux News

[Lyle Tuttle]

When it comes to a new networking OS, Linux is the Linux of
networking


http://tinyurl.com/qbdgqs8 


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Re: Looking for Linux Equivalent Program

[Lyle Tuttle]

This "might" be better after looking at the
comments...I use it, and it does not "map", but does tell me
what is available and how strong the signal is, and the SSID:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ
..
At 03:43 PM 6/19/2013, James Finstrom wrote:
looks like this android app does
this

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hogdex.WifiMapMakerFree
 Wifi Map maker 
DISCLAIMER: Haven't tried it.

ಠ_ಠ


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, James Finstrom
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jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:


Seems like something easily done in python. Â This does require gps
so thinking it would be better as an android app.

James Finstrom

Rhino Equipment

http://rhinoequipment.com

Twitter:

http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment

Facebook:

http://facebook.com/RhinoEquipment


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On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Dazed_75

wrote:


Lisa,

I did not try it in WINE.  I am just enough of a bigot to look
for a pure Linux solution first since I do not have a work project I need
to complete.


https://github.com/cyberpython/WifiScanAndMap seems to indicate
something far from having a polished GUI and looks to be at a
significantly lower map resolution (though worth a look if nothing else
turns up).

The Meraki FAQ (

http://meraki.cisco.com/products/wireless/wifi-mapper#faq ) says
"A: WiFi Mapper requires Java support and does not currently support
Linux."

Michael,

Yep on the corner on the market.  Makes one thonk it could be a
great opportunity for a FOSS project.  :)




On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Michael Butash

wrote:


I've been working on a wireless project for months, and looked around
for things oss like heatmapping, rtls function, etc, and there's nothing
too well baked to use production-wise aside from some half-baked,
minimally existing projects on sourceforge.

Seems commercial software like Aruba Airwave, Cisco WLS/Prime,
Ekahau, etc have the lock on things from that
perspective.

-mb



On 06/19/2013 09:00 AM, Dazed_75 wrote:


I ran across this article:



http://www.howtogeek.com/165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-heatmap-for-network-analysis-better-coverage-and-geek-cred-galore/


which shows doing a very nifty wifi map of your space. Â
Unfortunately it

uses a windows only program from Ekahau called HeatMap. Â I did a
little

web searching for a Linux equivalent program but have not found
anything

that included the mapping function. Â Does anyone know of
one?

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Re: AMD vs Intel memory managemement

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 08:16 AM 6/13/2013, Eric Cope wrote:
what year was
that?
1968 or so

On Thu, Jun 13,
2013 at 7:01 AM, Lyle Tuttle
<l.tut...@cox.net>
wrote:


In the 'old' days, I worked for the Atomic Energy Commission
designing, building and maintaining computer controlled experiments using
radiation from and located on the face of the reactor.our SDS
"mainframe"  ran ALL experiments (including some x-ray
diffraction projects in remote locations) in real-time..that computer
had 16K core memory...and people came from all over the world to see
what we were doingnow a watch has more memory.

Time flies, and the only constant is change..    


At 10:26 PM 6/12/2013, Derek Trotter wrote:

Anyone remember the old days when
we thought 64k RAM and a 5MB hard drive was a fast machine?

On 06/12/2013 06:12 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:

Yes - I am not saying my entire farm has that much ram. You can get
away with much, much less, but I have servers that go that high.


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:49 PM, keith smith
<klsmith2...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Did I read that right you have 768GB of RAM?



Keith Smith

--- On Wed, 6/12/13, Bryan O'Neal

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From: Bryan O'Neal

 

Subject: Re: AMD vs Intel memory managemement
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
<
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Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 5:45 PM 


This is kinda new to me - Just so I am clear - unganged systems would
perform better if I have say - a caching system with limited threads each
pined to a specific core (we do this for processor cache anyway) while
ganged systems would perform better it I was spinning up a new thread for
each request and had a large amount (say 768GB) of ram running something
like PostgreSQL where threads are being fired up and down many thousands
of times a second but the data they seek is mostly in main memory.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Stephen
<
cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

On-board bios usually will not allocate that much however. And by
usually will not I mean I have never sen it do so, even in the days of
ghetto ram thieving by graphics chip-sets.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Eric Shubert
<e...@shubes.net>
wrote:

On 06/03/2013 01:46 PM, Nathan England wrote:

But why does CentOS not register all of my memory? Why less than 3/4
of it?



Perhaps the bios has allocated a chunk of it to onboard
video?

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Re: AMD vs Intel memory managemement

[Lyle Tuttle]

In the 'old' days, I worked for the Atomic Energy Commission
designing, building and maintaining computer controlled experiments using
radiation from and located on the face of the reactor.our SDS
"mainframe"  ran ALL experiments (including some x-ray
diffraction projects in remote locations) in real-time..that computer
had 16K core memory...and people came from all over the world to see
what we were doingnow a watch has more memory.
Time flies, and the only constant is change..    

At 10:26 PM 6/12/2013, Derek Trotter wrote:

Anyone remember the old days when we
thought 64k RAM and a 5MB hard drive was a fast machine?
On 06/12/2013 06:12 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
Yes - I am not saying my entire
farm has that much ram. You can get away with much, much less, but I have
servers that go that high.

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:49 PM, keith smith

wrote:



Did I read that right you have 768GB of RAM?




Keith Smith

--- On Wed, 6/12/13, Bryan O'Neal

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From: Bryan O'Neal

 

Subject: Re: AMD vs Intel memory managemement

To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
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plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>

Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 5:45 PM 


This is kinda new to me - Just so I am clear - unganged systems would
perform better if I have say - a caching system with limited threads each
pined to a specific core (we do this for processor cache anyway) while
ganged systems would perform better it I was spinning up a new thread for
each request and had a large amount (say 768GB) of ram running something
like PostgreSQL where threads are being fired up and down many thousands
of times a second but the data they seek is mostly in main
memory.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Stephen
<
cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:


On-board bios usually will not allocate that much however. And by
usually will not I mean I have never sen it do so, even in the days of
ghetto ram thieving by graphics chip-sets.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Eric Shubert

wrote:


On 06/03/2013 01:46 PM, Nathan England wrote:


But why does CentOS not register all of my memory? Why less than 3/4
of it?



Perhaps the bios has allocated a chunk of it to onboard
video?

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Re: An Apology

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 03:54 PM 6/12/2013, Nathan England wrote:
Lyle Tuttle - for the email I
wanted to write to you, but in the end chose to bite my tongue, I
apologize.
You can always email me privately..no need to bite your
tongue.and no apology needed..
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Re: Off Topic Discussions

[Lyle Tuttle]

I stayed out because so many are politically clueless- just too busy earning a 
living to pay attention or so dismayed @ what is going on they have given up.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

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From: "Ted Gould" 
To: 
Subject: Off Topic Discussions
Date: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 7:58 am
I would say that it is a list of Linux and related topics.

Things like programming in PHP, that'd be OT, but still fine on the list.  Even 
stuff that is political in nature, but related, like security and privacy, is 
relevant but OT.

Where I think it goes from OT to Off-List is when blame is being placed on a 
particular organization/person or a specific remedy is recommended.  For 
instance: "We can't have e-mail privacy because Nixon is a weenie" or "If 
Carter could speak Cuban better we could have more H1B visas."  Examples of 
specific actions would be: "You should join my political party so we can fight 
for..."

To be clear, this means that in previous situations 80% of the mail was fine 
and relevant.  But people stayed out of the conversation because they didn't 
want to be associated with that other 20%.  Let's cut that 20% up front and 
have conversations that everyone can participate in, which is probably more 
likely to educate on the issues too!

Thanks,
Ted

On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 17:15 -0700, keith smith wrote:




Ok,  let's get serious.  I think maybe we should define what this list is all 
about.

This list is about Linux and Linux related topics.

No politics - Ok.  Can be talk about H1B visa's?  Or would that be prohibited?

What else is prohibited?

What would be allowed but OT?

Installing PHP on a Linux box would be on-topic and programming in PHP could be 
allowed but off topic?

I'm being 100% sincere.  We all know I have posted lots of stuff that was 
political and about God.  And I know we have gotten to this point before.  We 
have even had people leave the list because they did not like other peoples 
political views or they did not want to hear about God.

PLUG is part of the community I live in.  So I often say what is on my mind. 

The sad thing is our Gov is imploding right in front of our eyes and some or 
most on the list do not want to talk about it.  If you do not want to talk 
about it I understand.  Not another peep from me.

So lets talk Linux.  Who wants to start?


Keith Smith




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Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger...

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 01:40 PM 6/7/2013, Nathan England wrote:


That assumes the constitution is
still the supreme law of the land. Does the federal government even have
a copy of it anymore? They haven't followed it for years! Sorry Keith,
but I think we are beyond that.
Can you say "Agenda 21"?  Heard of it?  Do your
research - we are toast!  Sorry to my grandkids.


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Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger...

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 01:11 PM 6/7/2013, Richard Daggett wrote:
If you really want to keep the
tinfoil hat on, lets add that all Medical records will be online and the
government will have access to them.  
I think your hat slipped down over your eyes and ears..med
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Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger...

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 12:50 PM 6/7/2013, Daniel Stasinski wrote:
The lack of privacy is only the
first step.  Next comes identifying and targeting of political
enemies based on nothing more than their
associations.
Uhhh, can you say IRS?

Daniel

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM,

wrote:


I just received a phone call from a friend

who began talking with this announcement:

"As we speak, please keep in mind that the NSA

is recording, scrutinizing, and analyzing every word."

Sadly, it seems that is the inescapable reality

of the world that we now live in: every phone call,

every text message, and every transmitted document.


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Re: Arizona Internet Speed Test

[Lyle Tuttle]

I reported it to Netflix, but my guess is Cox.and then
this came (you most likely saw), which I DO believe:
==
Cox has had a full circuit between here and their peering to LA for
probably 6+ months, so this accounts for why you're seeing the latency.
Run an mtr to google and you'll see a good 60-90% packet loss at their
peering hop to LA. Their useless support says it's not real, but it
is.
I've been yelling at someone internally there to fix it and upper mgt
wouldn't, so I suggest you call them too. I heard internally they lit a
fire to fix it just this week when Game of Thrones pirating and legit
streamers killed it on sunday.

Just watched a 1.75 hr Netflix movie - no hickups...go
figure
lyle

At 08:23 PM 5/9/2013, keith smith wrote:
Could it be Netflix not
Cox?

Keith Smith
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From: Lyle Tuttle 

Subject: Re: Arizona Internet Speed Test

To: jjma...@jjmacey.net, "Main PLUG discussion list"


Date: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 1:49 PM

I got 63.14 down & 12.93 up, but do not believe itcox, and
Netflix 'stutters'!!!

lyle

At 01:33 PM 5/9/2013, John J. Macey wrote:

Hi All,

I get D/L 17.35 mps, and U/L 11.97 mps speeds.

John

On 05/09/2013 01:05 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

I got a 1.06 down and .54 up. It sucks up here.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


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PLUG - take the test

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View this email on the web here. You can also forward to a
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Arizona Telecommunications and Information Coucil

Digital Arizona Program Internet Speed Test

Take The Test

http://www.digitalarizona.gov/speedtest/

On behalf of the Digital Arizona Program (DAP) ATIC is encouraging
you to
take the Internet Speed test today. DAP created an Internet Speed
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(commonly used nationwide) with a display indicating connection
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The combination of data from large quantities of speed tests along
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The Digital Arizona Project is a federally funded grant program in
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across
the state.

Need For Speed

High speed Internet is the new essential infrastructure for this
century’s
job creation, educational and healthcare transformation, and
economic
development like highways, railroads, canals, and electricity were
for
previous generations.

Take The Test Here
[FYI - the survey is over]


http://php.a-d-w.com/limesurvey/index.php?sid=81357&lang=en

We invite you to participate in this effort at home, work and
anywhere you
connect to the Internet. For the results to be statistically
significant we
need as many people doing the test in as many locations and on as
many
devices as possible. We hope it goes viral and we very much
appreciate your
participation and distribution of the information and request to
utilize it
among your stakeholder community.

Contact ATIC

602-254-5887

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Re: Arizona Internet Speed Test

[Lyle Tuttle]

I got 63.14 down & 12.93 up, but do not believe
itcox, and Netflix 'stutters'!!!
lyle
At 01:33 PM 5/9/2013, John J. Macey wrote:
Hi All,
I get D/L 17.35 mps, and U/L 11.97 mps speeds.
John
On 05/09/2013 01:05 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
I got a 1.06 down and .54 up. It
sucks up here.
:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Ed
 wrote:


PLUG - take the test

-- Forwarded message --

From: AZ Telecom and Info Council


Date: Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Subject: Arizona Internet Speed Test


View this email on the web here. You can also forward to a
friend.

Arizona Telecommunications and Information Coucil

Digital Arizona Program Internet Speed Test

Take The Test


http://www.digitalarizona.gov/speedtest/

On behalf of the Digital Arizona Program (DAP) ATIC is encouraging
you to

take the Internet Speed test today. DAP created an Internet Speed
Test and

Survey on the Digital Arizona web portal to measure the upload and
download

(connection) speeds at tens of thousands of locations (i.e. homes,
offices,

etc.) around the State. The Speed Test is a simple “click here”
web-link

(commonly used nationwide) with a display indicating connection
speeds

(Mbps) at a particular location and moment in time.

The combination of data from large quantities of speed tests along
with

answers from the related survey questions will be analyzed by the
Digital

Arizona team to determine potential areas and/or communities that may
be

poorly served. Together with initial device and location type
questions,

after the Speed Test there are some optional questions to help us
learn

about what kind of Internet services folks are using and how those
services

are being used. This will assist us with our goal of facilitating
access to

better high-speed Internet service for ALL Arizonans, especially
those

residing in the rural areas of the State.

Digital Arizona Program

The Digital Arizona Project is a federally funded grant program in
the

Arizona Strategic Enterprise Technology (ASET) Office of the
Arizona

Department of Administration (ADOA). The program is focused on
facilitating

“better Internet” across Arizona, with better availability and
increased

adoption and use. Better Internet is an amplifier for job creation,
better

K-12 education, advances in Tele-health, and improving economic
development

in Arizona. Increased supply will also help lower Internet costs
for

everyone. We are asking for your assistance in helping us determine
the

current quality of Internet access actually experienced by citizens
across

the state.

Need For Speed

High speed Internet is the new essential infrastructure for this
century’s

job creation, educational and healthcare transformation, and
economic

development like highways, railroads, canals, and electricity were
for

previous generations.

Take The Test Here

[FYI - the survey is over]



http://php.a-d-w.com/limesurvey/index.php?sid=81357&lang=en


We invite you to participate in this effort at home, work and
anywhere you

connect to the Internet. For the results to be statistically
significant we

need as many people doing the test in as many locations and on as
many

devices as possible. We hope it goes viral and we very much
appreciate your

participation and distribution of the information and request to
utilize it

among your stakeholder community.

Contact ATIC

602-254-5887

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Best Regards,
John

John J. Macey
Tempe, Arizona
Phone: 480-242-1503
E-Mail:
jjmacey@jjmace
y.net or
jjma...@gmail.com
 
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Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate

[Lyle Tuttle]

flat tax - yesI hold in my hand a signed book authored
by Neal Boortz and Congressman John Linder on Flat Tax...as I
said:  We either follow the law or change it...
lyle
At 09:54 AM 5/8/2013, keith smith wrote:
I do not think creating a burden
on one person to force another into compliance is the solution.  The
government does this at all levels.
Payroll :  Companies have to collect and disperse payroll
withholding for the government to ensure the employee pays his or her
taxes.  SOLUTION: flat tax that requires the person not the employer
to make a monthly deposit.  Put the burden on the taxpayer.

Sales Tax :   When I had a sales tax license I had to collect
sales tax at the point of sale, do the reporting, and disburse the money,
as well as manage it until disbursed.  SOLUTION : No sales
tax.  A flat income tax paid to the fed, state, county, and local
gov by the taxpayer.
In the case of this bill, the gov is putting the burden on business not
the tax payer.  Why is it my responsibility to ensure someone else
pays their taxes.  And just because I sell someone something, it
does not make me a party to them not paying what the law says they
owe.  It is their responsibility.
I understand some restrictions like making sure the auto lub companies do
not dispose of used oil by pouring it in the alley.  HOWEVER do not
make me responsible for someone else's debt.   
These laws do more damage than good.



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--- On Wed, 5/8/13, Lyle Tuttle 
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From: Lyle Tuttle 

Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate

To: "Main PLUG discussion list"


Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 9:01 AM

At 05:16 AM 5/8/2013, JD Austin wrote:

I'm calling a little BS on your over simplification Bryan; you
certainly DID NOT have to deal with more than one one state's sales tax
rules unless you had a physical presence
there.

1.  I own a business that is head quartered in one state, but
does the majority of our business in a total of three statesand some
Nation-wide as well.  We do well over $1 Million/yr.

   There are even  different rates for different kind of
sales; it is not a simple thing at all and is disingenuous to pretend it
is.  Just having to deal with periodic tax updates alone on a
national level is a burden unless you're a huge company like Amazon.Â
  Imagine having to pay More than you collected because it wasn't
up to date.

2.  We have to deal with the
different State, City and other "Special" taxes depending on
where our customer lives - it is all sorted/calculated  by zip
code.  We have (and have for years!) software that adds the tax on
the customer's bill; tallys it up in a report for us, and even prints out
the paperwork required to submit the money...SOME OF WHICH WE GET TO
KEEP TO PAY FOR OUR 'WORK'..

   How would you send that money to each
state?

3.  Electronic
transfer...

   Would a business need a bank account for each State like
they do for just a single one?

4.  Why?  We have no
"special" bank account for the tax monies
collected...


5.  Please do not get the impression that I like these taxes; I
do not! (The taxis not as bad as what they spend it on!!!)  I am
merely pointing out that this is not an unsurmountable task - yes, it is
a pain, but it is just a part of doing business.  Remember, every
time you buy something from out of state, YOU are supposed to remit that
tax on your State form at tax time.but no one (ok, maybe one
person??) does.  How can we condone breaking the law on this? 
If we do not like it, then we should change the law; for us to encourage
breaking the law puts us in a position (IMHO) as partners with Eric
Holder.

I am more fearful that this might be the nose of the camel under the
edge of the tent, ie, once these bozos in DC find they can control/get
money from the internet - Katie bar the door!

lurker lyle


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Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 09:25 AM 5/8/2013, keith smith wrote:

Hi Lyle,
You are an online business? 
Not 100%, but some.
 If so I would
like to hear more about how you identify the taxing authority, how you do
your reporting, and how much it cost you to
comply.
How do you bill or ship to your customer?  We use their zip code for
tax assessment.  Cost is all in our accounts receivable package, ie,
not sure I could give you an accurate # for specific costs.we pay
taxes by electronic transfer, and the amount is all calculated by that
softwarereports tell us how much we collectedbut
that package does all of our accounting, etc - tax is just a small part
of what it does for us.
Frankly, I am more concerned about what I wrote in the last line of my
response than whether or not we should break the current laws on tax
collection - even tho I detest all of the regulations -- that's why I
'retired' at age 50
lyle 

Thanks,
Keith


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From: Lyle Tuttle 

Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate

To: "Main PLUG discussion list"


Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 9:01 AM

At 05:16 AM 5/8/2013, JD Austin wrote:

I'm calling a little BS on your over simplification Bryan; you
certainly DID NOT have to deal with more than one one state's sales tax
rules unless you had a physical presence
there.

1.  I own a business that is head quartered in one state, but
does the majority of our business in a total of three statesand some
Nation-wide as well.  We do well over $1 Million/yr.

   There are even  different rates for different kind of
sales; it is not a simple thing at all and is disingenuous to pretend it
is.  Just having to deal with periodic tax updates alone on a
national level is a burden unless you're a huge company like Amazon.Â
  Imagine having to pay More than you collected because it wasn't
up to date.

2.  We have to deal with the
different State, City and other "Special" taxes depending on
where our customer lives - it is all sorted/calculated  by zip
code.  We have (and have for years!) software that adds the tax on
the customer's bill; tallys it up in a report for us, and even prints out
the paperwork required to submit the money...SOME OF WHICH WE GET TO
KEEP TO PAY FOR OUR 'WORK'..

   How would you send that money to each
state?

3.  Electronic
transfer...

   Would a business need a bank account for each State like
they do for just a single one?

4.  Why?  We have no
"special" bank account for the tax monies
collected...


5.  Please do not get the impression that I like these taxes; I
do not! (The taxis not as bad as what they spend it on!!!)  I am
merely pointing out that this is not an unsurmountable task - yes, it is
a pain, but it is just a part of doing business.  Remember, every
time you buy something from out of state, YOU are supposed to remit that
tax on your State form at tax time.but no one (ok, maybe one
person??) does.  How can we condone breaking the law on this? 
If we do not like it, then we should change the law; for us to encourage
breaking the law puts us in a position (IMHO) as partners with Eric
Holder.

I am more fearful that this might be the nose of the camel under the
edge of the tent, ie, once these bozos in DC find they can control/get
money from the internet - Katie bar the door!

lurker lyle


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Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 09:21 AM 5/8/2013, JD Austin wrote:
I didn't say it was
insurmountable I sad it was an additional burden that increases overhead
and as a result the second and third order effects will result in lower
wages, job loss, and in some cases the business closing.  

It is great you dealt with it for THREE states; how about
50?
Please notice I said we do a smaller volume
nation-wide.even had requests for overseas, but choose not to go
there...

clip, clip


1.  I own a business that is head
quartered in one state, but does the majority of our business in a total
of three statesand some Nation-wide as well.  We do well over $1
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Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 05:16 AM 5/8/2013, JD Austin wrote:
I'm calling a little BS on your
over simplification Bryan; you certainly DID NOT have to deal with more
than one one state's sales tax rules unless you had a physical presence
there.
1.  I own a business that is head quartered in one state, but does
the majority of our business in a total of three statesand some
Nation-wide as well.  We do well over $1 Million/yr.
  
There are even  different rates for different kind of sales; it is
not a simple thing at all and is disingenuous to pretend it is. 
Just having to deal with periodic tax updates alone on a national level
is a burden unless you're a huge company like Amazon.   Imagine
having to pay More than you collected because it wasn't up to
date.
2.  We have to deal with the different State,
City and other "Special" taxes depending on where our customer
lives - it is all sorted/calculated  by zip code.  We have (and
have for years!) software that adds the tax on the customer's bill;
tallys it up in a report for us, and even prints out the paperwork
required to submit the money...SOME OF WHICH WE GET TO KEEP TO PAY
FOR OUR 'WORK'..
  
How would you send that money to each state?
3.  Electronic transfer...
  
Would a business need a bank account for each State like they do for just
a single one?
4.  Why?  We have no "special"
bank account for the tax monies collected...

5.  Please do not get the impression that I like these taxes; I do
not! (The taxis not as bad as what they spend it on!!!)  I am merely
pointing out that this is not an unsurmountable task - yes, it is a pain,
but it is just a part of doing business.  Remember, every time you
buy something from out of state, YOU are supposed to remit that tax on
your State form at tax time.but no one (ok, maybe one person??)
does.  How can we condone breaking the law on this?  If we do
not like it, then we should change the law; for us to encourage breaking
the law puts us in a position (IMHO) as partners with Eric
Holder.
I am more fearful that this might be the nose of the camel under the edge
of the tent, ie, once these bozos in DC find they can control/get money
from the internet - Katie bar the door!
lurker lyle


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Re: Books for Joomla (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 10:24 PM 3/1/2013, Derek Trotter wrote:

It seems odd to me it would be
available only to Maricopa county residents.
That is because Maricopa county Residents PAY for
it.as for driving to Glendale & availablilty,
they have several libraries; not just one in Glendaleand if you go to
your LOCAL Library, they can more than likely get the book(s) you want
'loaned' to them and then to you..many libraries have the capability
to 'send' you items via internet...
All free, using my (our) tax money.
lyle


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Re: OT : DROID DNA by HTC

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 09:05 AM 2/26/2013, Derek Trotter wrote:

Sounds like he's mistaken on two
points.  1. In Arizona it's the Motor Vehicle Division. 
2.  Neither the MVD or any other government agency has ever tried
to achieve a pleasant or even an improve customer
experience.
You must have forgotten how happy the illegals who bought 'back-door'
ID's from them were.
lyle



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Re: Raspberry Pi

[Lyle Tuttle]

I've had one since July, and have not had time to touch
it!  I think I should do SOMETHING with it..
At 08:28 PM 1/31/2013, Trent Shipley wrote:
Has anyone played with
these?
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OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your Cellphone

[Lyle Tuttle]

Yes, I agree.  The question is, "What are you
doing about it?"  An inch at a time.
At 11:00 AM 1/26/2013, Derek Trotter wrote:
I can't argue Keith.  This
is no longer a free country.  It's not even a republic.  It's a
bureaucracy.  People who are unelected and unaccountable to the
people are now making the laws and changing them anytime they feel like
it.

On 01/26/2013 08:28 AM, keith smith wrote:

I know some of you do not agree with my limited government position,
however this is what a run away government does.  We pay for our
phones with those two year contracts.  Our rates would be lower if
they did not "subsidize" our phones.  These phones are our
property.
Hold onto your seat.  This is just an example of how a run away
government is going to treat it's people.  
This is not freedom, this is bondage.
Th article says in part:
The worst-case scenario for an individual or civil offense could be as
much as a $2,500 fine. As for those planning to profit off of the act or
a criminal offense -- such as a cellphone reseller -- the fine could be
as high as $500,000 and include prison time. 

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518


 

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Re: A good viral video - Intro to the AED Heart Machine

[Lyle Tuttle]

Good video - I just had one on the 10th...so got another
stent installed
At 01:32 PM 1/24/2013, Ed wrote:


http://www.heartrescuenow.com/
I really want to press the "freak out" button..
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RE: Workstation Power Cord

[Lyle Tuttle]

Here is a WAG, but try Chuck @ (602) 244-0294don't
know his last name, and he is on Roosevelt @ about 33rd...he has a
garage/work area full of "stuff".

At 02:10 PM 1/8/2013, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
Wow! $20 for a power cable???
Ouch!  (I just finished a google search.  That's one
"interesting" connector...)
I think either go with Brian's idea or see if you can replace the socket
on the power supply with something a little easier to hook to... 
Shoot, or replace the whole power supply!
You could try the surplus places - there's one near 7th ave and
Washington or Jefferson or one of those other presidents.  And I'm
not thinking 'apache surplus', that's another kettle of worms you could
look into.
You could TRY Circuit Specialists...  But I'd be VERY surprised if
they had one.
Rusty
 
> -Original Message-
> Subject: Workstation Power Cord
> 
> Does anyone know a local supplier that would carry a NEMA 5-15P to
IEC
> 320-C19 power cord? I picked up a Leveno workstation with a
power
> supply with that C19 plug.
> 
> Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
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Re: OT: Figuring Sales Tax for Online Sales

[Lyle Tuttle]

At 11:40 AM 12/12/2012, keith smith wrote:
I've been meaning to
reply.  All my extra resources are going into building a hyper-local
news site which will soon be found at

http://www.ChandlerAzConservative.com/.

Keith Smith
OK, great...I did not intend for my email to you to go to the
list
Who is doing the site - I mean behind it?  Do I know them?
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Re: OT: Figuring Sales Tax for Online Sales

[Lyle Tuttle]

We are in Vegas at the NFR event, but wondered if you got my
earlier email about a co to donate and burn CD's?
lyle


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