Re: virus
Maybe keep spamming the list like this and someone will send you another game... I really need to re-institute my email killfile, but you really just provide too much popcorn, I cannot fathom losing such entertaining posts as these. r. On Fri 9 November 2012 10:17:29 Michael Havens wrote: > Well... back in 96 (before I ran linux) someone sent me a 'game'. I opened > the 'game' and my computer locked up and had to be restored. That is > actually what I wanted :) Also, I would never send it to a US based scammer. > > How do I discover where 'phx.gbl'. traceroute gets to 10 hops then gives me: > >* * * > > the last 'real' return I get is: > >10ge-ten1-2.mia-89p-cor-2.peer1.net (216.187.124.129) 153.151 ms > 153.577 ms > 154.080 ms > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Kevin Fries wrote: > > Michael, > > > > You are thinking far too one dimensionally. What you really need is the > > routing and account numbers for an account owned by Alcida. Then let them > > steal away. Let the jerks explain how they illegally obtained this > > information to Homeland Security. Ha ha ha ha > > > > I got your humor, guys ease up and stop taking thing so seriously. > > > > Kevin > > > > On Nov 9, 2012 5:54 AM, "Michael Havens" wrote: > >> could someone send me a virus that I could 'share' with all the thieves > >> that try to scam me? > >> > >> :-)~MIKE~(-: > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix http://rix.si --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Reiserfs
On Thu 18 October 2012 08:49:34 Derek Trotter wrote: > I noticed when I installed the latest kubuntu a couple of weeks ago that > reiserfs was one of the options to use for formatting the partition. > Does it have some advantage over newer filesystems? Or is it there > because it's been around for several years? I never really saw the purpose of Resiser since ext4 stabilized. However! ReiserFS is murderously fast and has tons of killer features http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/so-i-married-a-kernel-programmer -- Ryan Rix http://rix.si --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: gimp 2.8
Michael asking questions without researching? I'm shocked. /s On Wed 10 October 2012 09:15:09 Dazed_75 wrote: > Why do you always do things the hard way and seem not to bother researching > your question? Try doing a google search on "gimp 2.8 mint" (without the > quotes) and you will get lots of hits. If you do want to compile it look > at > http://www.noobslab.com/2012/08/install-latest-gimp-282-in-ubuntu.html > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > > okay I want to install gimp 2.8 (I run mint... not ubuntu). I ran > > configure and it hung saying babl isn't installed. I go to a webpage and > > it > > says that it is kept in a git repository. HOw do I install it into the > > directory it is supposed to be installed in? hm i just ran 'find > > bal|grep babl' and found where babl is installed is installed. How do I > > tell it to do what I need to tell it? > > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > -- > Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry > > Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to > multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or > CC:. Remove all addresses from the message body before sending a Forwarded > message. This can prevent spy programs capturing addresses from the > recipient list and message body. -- Ryan Rix http://rix.si --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I'm moving to be with my wife and baby!
This mailinglist is such a great popcorn provider. *chomps* r On Sat 8 September 2012 18:57:32 Michael Havens wrote: > already been and am now back. It took four yearas but I finally figured out > that when she went to Peru the first time she abandoned me. Everything > after was just me wishing. > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > Wow ! I will miss you. > > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> This is going to be a BIG move. About four times further than my Florida > >> move. I'm going to Peru:) I even already bought my plane ticket. I'll be > >> leaving April 4th. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> :-)~MIKE > >> > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > > (503) 754-4452 Android > > (623) 239-3392 Skype > > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice > > ** > > it-clowns.com > > Chief Clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix http://rix.si --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: konqueror errors
If you can't ignore debug messages, run ``` $ kdebugdialog ''' And click de-select all. That should mute most, if not all of those, without having to deal with shell redirection hackery. r On Sat 9 June 2012 15:51:26 j...@actionline.com wrote: > When I do (from the command line): firefox lb.htm ... it works perfectly. > No complaints. > When I do (from the command line): konqueror lb.htm ... it works fine, > > but I get the series of complaints listed below. > > Any idea how to stop those complaint messages? > > Also, how can I execute either a firefox or konqueror activation of a > named 'htm' file from the command line without the terminal window having > to stay open? > > $ konqueror lb.htm > konqueror(9218)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction "konqbrowser" with > KXMLGUIFactory! > konqueror(9218)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction "firefox" with > KXMLGUIFactory! > konqueror(9218)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction "" with > KXMLGUIFactory! > QPainter::begin: Widget painting can only begin as a result of a paintEvent > QPainter::translate: Painter not active > QPainter::setClipRect: Painter not active > QPainter::hasClipping: Painter not active > QPainter::setPen: Painter not active > QPainter::setBrush: Painter not active > QPainter::hasClipping: Painter not active > QPainter::setPen: Painter not active > QPainter::setBrush: Painter not active > QPainter::hasClipping: Painter not active > QPainter::setPen: Painter not active > QPainter::setBrush: Painter not active > QPainter::hasClipping: Painter not active > QPainter::setPen: Painter not active > QPainter::setBrush: Painter not active > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix -- http://rix.si == OpenSource.com: Where Open Source Happens! == _ \/"/_ All Hail the Beefy Miracle! /_/ \ \ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: This Saturday (June 9): HeatSync Labs 1 year anniversary and Fedora 17 Beefy Miracle release cookout
Derpaherpderp. We're thinking afternoon, noon until whenever. I'll update the blogpost to say that. Thanks :) On Wed 6 June 2012 08:13:49 James Finstrom wrote: > Ryan, > > Is there a time block for this or just during normal hours... > > > James Finstrom > Rhino Equipment > <http://rhinoequipment.com> > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Ryan Rix wrote: > > Heya all, > > > > This saturday we'll be having a get-together at heatsynclabs, in Mesa: > > > > http://www.heatsynclabs.org/sat-jun-9-hotdoggin-at-heatsync-labs/ > > > > You should come! We'll be cooking hot dogs! > > > > -- > > Ryan Rix -- http://rix.si > > == OpenSource.com: Where Open Source Happens! == > > > > _ > > > > \/"/_ All Hail the Beefy Miracle! > > /_/ > > \ \ > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix -- http://rix.si == OpenSource.com: Where Open Source Happens! == _ \/"/_ All Hail the Beefy Miracle! /_/ \ \ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
This Saturday (June 9): HeatSync Labs 1 year anniversary and Fedora 17 Beefy Miracle release cookout
Heya all, This saturday we'll be having a get-together at heatsynclabs, in Mesa: http://www.heatsynclabs.org/sat-jun-9-hotdoggin-at-heatsync-labs/ You should come! We'll be cooking hot dogs! -- Ryan Rix -- http://rix.si == OpenSource.com: Where Open Source Happens! == _ \/"/_ All Hail the Beefy Miracle! /_/ \ \ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Soldering and Arduino workshop with Mitch Altman
Hey y'all http://www.heatsynclabs.org/arduino-for-total-newbies-with-mitch-altman/ Huge chance to get in to the world of electronics for anyone who's been interested but doesn't know where to start. I know there has been some fairly large interest in soldering classes, now you have the chance to learn from one of the best. Mitch is sort of the leader of the hackerspace movement in the US (cofounded Noisebridge in San Francisco along with Jacob Appelbaum, one of the largest and most successful spaces) and is a great teacher. The cost of the class is literally just the cost of a BoArduino and the parts to make a TV-B-Gone from it, nothing on top of that. Ryan PS. for those of you who don't know me or don't remember me, I'm Ryan Rix, one of the board members for HeatSync Labs, Arizona's Hackerspace. We're located on Main Street in Mesa and we do awesome stuff. :) I've been in and out of the PLUG community over the last few years, expect to see more of me in the future. :) -- Ryan Rix -- http://rix.si == OpenSource.com: Where Open Source Happens! == _ \/"/_ All Hail the Beefy Miracle! /_/ \ \ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: [CLOSED] Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser
On Mon 1 February 2010 8:27:51 pm Ryan Rix wrote: > and Alan in IRC Oops, scratch that part; talked with Hans though. -- Ryan Rix == http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://rix.si/ == signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
[CLOSED] Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser
On Mon 1 February 2010 4:53:08 pm Lisa Kachold wrote: > You might do well Sean to set up vigilance when you are motivated to > become argumentative over abstract details, since this is a clear red > flag that you don't understand the subject matter. It very well might > be a learning disability, which you can overcome. Hey all, At this point, after talking things over with Hans and Alan in IRC, we think it's best if this thread is closed. It is getting no where productive very fast, regardless of who is the cause of this. Sean has his mentor and will be reporting his progress on the mailing list (might I also suggest documenting it in a wordpress.com or blogger.com blog?); at this point, the rest of this thread should not dissolve into argument or name calling from -anyone,- whether it is Sean or Lisa or Craig or -anyone else- on the plug-discuss mailing lists. Sean has made his interest in learning about GNU/Linux and moving his business from a completely Microsoft environment into an integrated environment completely clear in past posts to the list. As a result of this thread, even after receiving the help he requested, he is considering (or has) unsubscribed from the mailing list. This is _not_ the kind of message we want to send to newer Phoenix LUG members. I have no time for a full analysis of this situation, only enough to see that this thread is doing nothing productive and only making _everyone_ involved look fairly silly. As a result, we (Hans and I) are asking that this thread be closed. Please don't reply to this message or any others in this thread. Note, the "Project Update" thread is not under moderation at this time. :-) Thanks and best, Ryan THREAD CLOSED -- Ryan Rix == http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://rix.si/ == signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Install Fest
On Fri 29 January 2010 12:46:25 pm m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: > Is there an install fest tomorrow? I received a cancellation notice email. There is an installfest tomorrow. I don't know who sent that mail, or why it's on the list. UAT tomorrow, details at http://plug.phoenix.az.us/node/158 -- Ryan Rix == http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://rix.si/ == signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Phoenix KDE SC 4.4 release party -- interested?
Hey all, So, I'm throwing a KDE SC 4.4 release-party/get-together February 20th at the Matador Coffee Roasting Company[1], a nice little coffee house on the North side of town (32nd St and Union Hills) which has pretty damn good coffee and pretty damn good food. It's kind of a small joint though, because I'm not overtly sure how many people we would have interested in attending such a get together. I need some help probably; I know there are a few KDE users, and maybe a contributor or two on the list. I need your halp :D even if you aren't a contributor, events like this are a great way to get involved in the KDE community and Phoenix LUG as a whole. Please let me know if you are interested in attending and/or helping out, either on list, or offlist. I was hoping that we could have a presentation or two (sans projector, if it's at matador) and some demoes. If Matador isn't up to hosting the event, or we have too many folks, I may contact some folks at PVCC across the street from Matador with some dedicated space. I am also thinking of using this to spearhead a stammtische for the North side. I know that we have the Tempe and Avondale stammtisches but that's often too far a drive for the northerners. Location/date time suggestion for future north side get togethers is much appreciated :) Thanks and best [1]: http://www.matadorcoffeeroastingco.com/index.html -- Ryan Rix == http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://rix.si/ == signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: West Side
On Mon 25 January 2010 4:54:19 am Lyle Tuttle wrote: > PLUG meeting is set for the 4th Wednesday of every month, effective > 1/27/2010, in classroom 209 @ DeVry, 2149 W. Dunlap Ave, Phoenix, > 85021. (Classroom # may change from month to month) > > Come in through the courtyard openings where the flag poles are - go > immediately up the stairs - go through the glass doors to the north > and look for the classroom number. And _BRING_AN_ETHERNET_CABLE_ :-) No open wifi access and I only brought two cables (just in case), and I don't want someone from DeVry cutting my hands off for setting up a private network with the router I brought. I'm weird, I know. :) -- Ryan Rix == http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://rix.si/ == signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
West Side
Hey all, West side meeting. Wednesday. DeVry. http://plug.phoenix.az.us/node/347 Start: 2010 Jan 27 - 19:00 End: 2010 Jan 27 - 22:00 Timezone: Etc/GMT-7 Presentations This Month Presentation 1 Discussion regarding how Infusionsoft implements open source solutions within a corporate environment, This discussion will include how Linux, and other open source tools are used within a corporate environment to efficiently and effectively replicate costly solutions. These topics will include: Setting up an automation system across the back-end with bash; how to configure a fully redundant set of Tomcat web nodes, and MySQL database nodes, with easily activated fail-over capabilities; remote management, and installation; feasible backup solutions; and routing capabilities with Iptables. Presentation 2 Overview of new features in KDE SC 4.4, the upcoming release of the KDE Software Compilation. Ryan Rix will go over some of the new capabilities of the desktop and will be on hand with live USB images for installation. Topics: Various topics ranging form beginner's to advanced, user to administrator. When: Fourth Wednesday of each month at 7:00PM Where: DeVry, 2149 W. Dunlap Ave., Phoenix, AZ 85021 See you all there :-) -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: off topic
On Sat 23 January 2010 3:33:04 pm mike havens wrote: > what do you all think of all the rain we've gotten? I got the brunt of it twice :P Once in San Diego and once after I got back to Phoenix... Pretty intense, given, you know, it's Phoenix. :) Ryan -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RSVP for Saturday??
On Fri 22 January 2010 8:11:39 pm Eric Shubert wrote: > Ryan Rix wrote: > > On Fri 22 January 2010 1:31:37 pm Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> Just drag him to Ryan Rix's birthday party (crash it) and make Ryan help > >> him? > > > > I don't know Skype from Adam, so I can't really help on that front. I can > > probably guess it's not playing correctly with PulseAudio, though. > > > > I'll try to make it to the instalfest tomorrow if I decide to not sleep > > in ;) With Fedora 12 media! But no swag :< > > Isn't the IF, like, next weekend? As in the 30th of January? > (tomorrow/this weekend being 23rd) Me == DUMB. brb, fixing calendar. :D Probably won't be making it then. -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RSVP for Saturday??
On Fri 22 January 2010 1:31:37 pm Lisa Kachold wrote: > Just drag him to Ryan Rix's birthday party (crash it) and make Ryan help > him? I don't know Skype from Adam, so I can't really help on that front. I can probably guess it's not playing correctly with PulseAudio, though. I'll try to make it to the instalfest tomorrow if I decide to not sleep in ;) With Fedora 12 media! But no swag :< -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: IRC planning mtg tonight
On Sun 17 January 2010 12:33:35 pm der.hans wrote: > just a reminder that we'll have our kickoff planning meeting in IRC > tonight at 20:00. I'd love to attend, but I've got a birthday dinner of my own to attend. Plz fill me in on the details after I return!! -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Distro Release: BackTrack 4
Hey, Everyone's favorite hack-n-slash security distro's been updated. http://www.offensive-security.com/blog/backtrack/backtrack-4-final-release/ It's a LiveDVD now, and based on Ubuntu, rather than the Slax livecd scripts. Have fun! -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: quiet
On Sun 10 January 2010 9:43:56 pm mike havens wrote: > I can't disconnect the keyboard laptop. > I can on my thinkpad :^) -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: quiet
On Sun 10 January 2010 8:56:56 pm mike havens wrote: > i'M NOT A GEEK AND i DON'T HAVE A LIFE. > 1) press caps lock key 2) press back space until previous message is gone 3) retype message 4) disconnect keyboard 5) ??? 6) profit! -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: quiet
On Sun 10 January 2010 5:56:18 pm mike havens wrote: > what evil plots are being schemed! > planning epic troll, brb. -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: O.T. iPod question?
On Mon 28 December 2009 8:05:04 pm mike Enriquez wrote: > > Dead iPods go somewhere but where? > hell :) -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: west side mtg?
On Sat 19 December 2009 9:02:19 pm Lyle Tuttle wrote: > At the October meeting, those in attendance agreed that we would not > hold any meetings until January 2010 due to the meeting dates falling > so close to Thanksgiving and Christmas..I can't seem to get a > reply from anyone to change the posting on the calendar. > > As per our agreement in October, I contacted Jeff @ DeVry and advised > him of this..and was surprised when I saw two or three went to > the meeting location and got in ok. > > I can't seem to get reply or contact with whoever does the calendar > to advise them.?? > > The next meeting will be January 27th @ DeVry, and we would take one > or both of you up on your offer to present - based on time, of course > > lyle tuttle > > At 07:00 PM 12/19/2009, you wrote: > >I was planning to attend the meeting, but after last month's no show, I > >would ask that if the meeting is cancelled, somebody post that here. > > > >Thanks! > > > >Sean Parsons > > > >-Original Message- > >From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of > > der.hans Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:48 AM > >To: quatsch > >Subject: west side mtg? > > > >moin moin, > > > >will DeVry be open for us on Wednesday? > > > >If so, do we want to have a meeting? I can do a presentation. > > > >ciao, > > > >der.hans > >-- > ># http://www.LuftHans.com/Classeshttp://www.TwoGeekTechs.com/ > ># Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. > ># "Printing and publishing has been a big industry in the city since the > ># early 1800s, when New York publishers were the first American printers > ># with access to pirated English best sellers." > ># -- New York Magazine, 2007Jun04 > >--- > >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > >--- > >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > Updated the RSS and the main page; we'll have to change it to remove it next month, though; it's an ugly hack because I don't know enough about Drupal to edit only one occurance -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: west side mtg?
On Sat 19 December 2009 9:02:19 pm Lyle Tuttle wrote: > I can't seem to get reply or contact with whoever does the calendar > to advise them.?? > I just remembered™ that I have admin on the drupal. let me do that for ya. -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: west side mtg?
On Sat 19 December 2009 10:48:01 am der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > will DeVry be open for us on Wednesday? > > If so, do we want to have a meeting? I can do a presentation. > > ciao, > > der.hans > As can I. -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com -> r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Two Questions
Mark Jarvis wrote: > 2) A friend has a Canon Pixma IP 1500 printer that he's trying to get > working on his Ubuntu 9.04 installation. Although the IP 2000 is > supported, the 1500 is not. He's managed to find, download, and install > drivers for it (quite impressive for someone that is very new to Linux) > but is now stumped by a "missing filter" message. I've never had to jump > through the hoops that he's already done and don't really know what sort > of a filter could be missing. Any suggestions? > > From the specs, the (unsupported) IP 1500 seem to be the same basic > engine as the (supported) IP 2000, just degraded slightly in speed & > memory. I've faked out systems before by telling the add printer wizard > that I really had a similar--but supported--printer, but that was with an > LPT connection. How does one do something similar with a USB connection? > (I'm hampered here in that I'm trying to help via phone and haven't > actually seen his box or the choices on his screen.) This should be the > easiest way to get him up & running. http://rix.si/?ip1500 -or- http://www.canon- europe.com/Support/Software/Linux/2005/download.asp?ComponentID=369142&SourcePageID=312227#1 it's a SUSE RPM but it should be easily convertable to deb using alien. Or you can extract it and find any of a thousand guides online to install printer filters manually. Enjoy -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: [Advocacy] iTWire - Taking the Ubuntu gospel to the Anime nation
Stephen P Rufle wrote: > http://www.itwire.com/content/view/29691/1141/ > > Thought it was interesting the "Ubuntu Massachusetts Local Community " > is trying to get a booth at a non tech event to expose people to Ubuntu. > Seems like a cool idea and they have a funding drive. > > http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2009/11/can-ubuntu-reach-over-16000- anime.html > http://linuxfund.org/projects/ubuntu/ > > I gave my $20 to the cause :) Ubuntu == religion? -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Leaked Climate Emails
Alan Dayley wrote: > Marked off-topic: Check > Interesting: Check > Will produce productive result in this forum (Linux list): Nope > If it were the right forum (climate change or political list), will > produce productive result in this medium (email): Nope > > Alan And 100 replies later, Alan remembers that PLUG can be a political hotbed when subjects like these come up. -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: DNS
Say you have domain foobar.org and a mailserver mail.foobar.org, if you add an MX entry to foobar.org, the MX will say "yo, relay this mail to mail.foobar.org" (top posting due to laziness) mike havens wrote: > > yeah... I kinda thought that ns =name server but what about mx? > -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: loading fresh system from rpm list?
Steven A. DuChene wrote:
> I have been requested to load a duplicate system based on the
> list of rpms present on the original system. This is a CentOS
> based system so I looked at the kickstart file but rather than
> working with a list of rpms it uses a list of higher level
> packages that then reference groups of rpms to make up each
> package.
>
> Does anyone know of a tool that would allow me to do a fresh
> load of a bare system based on a list of desired rpms?
On source:
rpm -qa --qf "install %{name}\n" > file.out
On target:
yum shell file.out
as root.
You can trim that list to fit. It's how I did a complete reinstall of my
system when I switched harddrives, and if I understand your issue, that
should work for you.
>
> I have used systemimager in the past to pull an exact image
> of a system for cloning but this idea has been shot down
> by the person who requested this.
>
> Any other tools out there that would do this?
> --
> Steven DuChene
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Re: Nix geek humor
Joshua Zeidner wrote: > looks like xkcd does not have a good technical manager. If any web > site managers want to prevent this sort of thing from happening, > http://www.vbseo.com/f34/hotlink-protection-tutorial-apache-server- htaccess-files-6456/ > > -jmz > Except that's not a hotlinked image ;) > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Why do people not want to credit the original source? >> >> http://xkcd.com/149/ >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Stephen wrote: >>> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/11/sudowich_01_01.jpg >>> >>> work safe >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Fedora firestorm and thoughts
Dazed_75 wrote: > There seems to be a firestorm going on with regard to a change in the > newly released Fedora 12. > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/11/18/2039229/Fedora-12-Lets-Users- Install-Signed-Packages-Sans-Root-Privileges?art_pos=1 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534047 > > How much this has blown up from being "slashdotted" is not an issue IMHO. > And I agree that it was a horrible decision to make that change be the > default. I do hope they revert it. My belief is that if they wanted such > a change it is important enough they should have retained the old behavior > and made an option to implement the new only by someone having root > privileges and proving it. > > But the real reason for this post is that I have noticed what might be a > trend in recent releases. It feels like a trend to me and I find that > bothersome. The trend I am talking about is for new releases to change > defaults and content in ways that so many reviews and tips are focussed on > how to revert the "improvements" to the prior art. > > For example, there are many positive reviews for Karmic Koala (ubuntu > 9.10) > along with the usual problem reports. But it seems that many of the > problem solutions and tips being published are how to "fix" Karmic back to > the way > ubuntu used to work. Now this thing with Fedora 12. I get concerned when > it seems like we risk our advantages of better security and stability. > I'm all for ease of use and innovation but I wonder if some changes are > going too far and too fast. > > I have also noted that many changes are made to make things easier for new > users (a good thing) but along the Microsoft model of assuming users must > be > stupid ... errr don't need/want to know. Is that bothering anyone > else? > This was never a decision discussed by the Fedora project as a whole. It was never a decision that anyone besides Richard Hughes chose to implement[1], and refused to revert when all this exploded. This is not a security issue, or an issue of Fedora dumbing itself down for its users. It's a matter of communication, or lack thereof: 1) This should have been discussed beforehand, either in a Fedora Release Engineering meeting, or in the fedora-devel mailing list. 2) if it was chosen to be implemented by default it should have been in the release notes along with explicit details on how to disable this. Neither of these things happened, and we (Fedora's developers and contributors) are already working to revert this and make sure things like this don't happen in the future. [1] Hughes felt that PackageKit was something to be used by Desktop systems only not server/multiuser systems, and 99% of desktop systems run only one or two users, all trusted with root access already. It was a convenience addition for Desktop users. Also, this policy was only enabled for LOCAL users running on a LOCAL terminal installing packages from the trusted Fedora repos. If you look at it this way, you have physical access to the box, you basically own it already. -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Fwd: Announcing Fedora 12
es are available at: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ * * * Even as we continue to provide updates with enhancements and bug fixes to improve the Fedora 12 experience, our next release, Fedora 13, is already being developed in parallel, and is open for active development now. We have an early schedule for an April 2010 release, with many new features slated. Refer to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule and: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/FeatureList - -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLArnPrNvJN70RNxcRAqFjAJ4vBIVYdMTjVyERVrpG5VIWuD/F2QCfWaqm ztdy61Hp4L6sc5XiPBQ= =NlI9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list --- -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: nano nitpick (triple negative) (was: Re: OT, ACTA, Secrecy and free software)
Vim > Nano Mike Schwartz wrote: > OK, > [0] hard time, > times > [1] "not reading" > is -- "so far" -- a double negative. > > I have no problem (ain't got no un-problem) with lots > of negatives, but I just think you meant the meaning, > that goes with an EVEN number of them here. > > So, I think it should be >> with a grain of salt. > instead of > [2] without a grain of salt. > because IMHO, [2] makes it a triple negative which -- has > the meaning 180 degrees from what it should be. > > Don't get me wrong -- a quadruple negative would be fine here. > Just not an "ODD" number of negatives, since that has > the meaning off by a "power of minus one" > from what it should be. > Just my 0.02 (or, micro 2.0E+4), -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT, ACTA, Secrecy and free software
Hi, The **ONLY** source of said leak so far has been one Micheal Geist, with absolutely no other sources. EVERYTHING links back to him. As such I have a very hard time not reading this without a grain of salt. Ryan Technomage wrote: > I found this site > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement) to be > rather illuminating, > especially with regard to free software. > > However, this part scares me more than anything: > " > > > United States > > Knowledge Ecology International > also filed a Freedom of > Information Act (FOIA) > request in the > United States but had their entire request denied, with the United State > Trade Representative's FOIA office stating it was withheld for being > material "properly classified in the interest of national security." > However, a recent leak has shown that the Obama administration intends > to start an undisclosed internet chapter.^[41]" <#cite_note-HuffPo-40> > > ^Comments? -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Fedora 12 Constantine goes gold, Anyone need Fedora 11 Media?
Hey guys, To much fanfare, Fedora 12 Constantine is about to be officially released, like real soon now. As I'm Phoenix's ambassador for the project, I have a ton of media (live CDs and installer DVDs) that I get to give out at events and whatnot and all sorts of other fun stuff (which I havent bothered to restock on since ABLEconf). I gave out a huge amount of media at ABLEconf, but unfortunately I still have quite a bit of media left, i386 Live Desktop Edition media (GNOME) and Installer DVDs. Now, with Fedora 12 about to be release, I am only supposed to be distributing Fedora 12 media at events. Which leaves me with about over 9000 media that I need to get rid of. Does anyone (teachers/business folks) want a grab at them? I have about 20 x64 Installer DVD and 20 i386 live media. I have three mailers, but I'm not sure how much media I can stick in each, but if anyone wants some media and has a good (read: not frisbie) use for them, feel free to call me up. 623-826-0051. If you're somewhere on the north side you can swing buy wherever I'll be, or I can mail you a couple of em. They'll end up at a local library or coffee shop if nothing happens to them by the end of the day, so yeah. I was gonna shlep my way down to the RedSeven Ubuntu party with them and all my awesome swag, but I hear they carry brown baseball bats these days. ;-) -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Why has my Firefox quit working?
Jason Spatafore wrote: > Drop to a command line and type links www.google.com > > Is that working? Uhhh, I don't mean to sound like the "i told you so" guy, but he said that konqi and ftp both work... firefox -safe-mode or alternately just stick with konqi :) > > > On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 14:59 -0600, Josef Lowder wrote: >> Why has my Firefox quit working? >> >> While I have a solid Internet connection and I can connect >> with either ftp or with my Konqueror browser, I just started >> getting the following error message from Firefox: >> >> Server not found >> Firefox can't find the server at www.google.com. >> * Check the address for typing errors such as >> ww.example.com instead of >> www.example.com >> * If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network >> connection. >> * If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make >> sure >> that Firefox is permitted to access the Web. >> >> I have double-checked that the URL addresses I am trying are correct. >> My network connection is fine. >> I've made no changes in Firefox. >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: OT: Security Lesson
David Demland wrote: > Correct. > Not to defer this conversation but this would be an AWESOME topic for our -devel list! -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT-ish: In need of DNS hosting
Ryan Rix wrote: > Eric Shubert wrote: > >> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears to me that OpenDNS >> provides only DNS Resolver (aka recursive, caching) services. I believe >> that Ryan's looking for Authoritative DNS service, which I don't see >> OpenDNS providing. Am I missing something here? >> > > Yes, this is what I need; apologies for not clearing that up. Afaict both > FreeDNS and OpenDNS did this :( > I lied; just set up FreeDNS. Just have to wait for my registrar to properly delegate the entries. Thanks Ryan -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT-ish: In need of DNS hosting
Eric Shubert wrote: > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears to me that OpenDNS > provides only DNS Resolver (aka recursive, caching) services. I believe > that Ryan's looking for Authoritative DNS service, which I don't see > OpenDNS providing. Am I missing something here? > Yes, this is what I need; apologies for not clearing that up. Afaict both FreeDNS and OpenDNS did this :( -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT-ish: In need of DNS hosting
Hey guys, I finally registered a domain in my own name for the purpose of lulz and filehosting. Unfortunately I decided I wanted a trendy domain name, not a .com or anything like that, so I registered rix.si via the domain registrar COBIT in Slovenia, since that's apparently the ONLY .si domain registrar with an English site. So I did it, whew, 25$ a year. And then they told me they didn't host DNS. Now, I'm cheap. :) My friend who hosts my irssi screen session lovingly offered up a spot on his virtual server for my site, which is basically awesome because I have shell access to the box, on top of many other benefits. :-) But, his domain is registered via a different, more sensible, registrar, who actually provides DNS service for the domains they register, so he doesn't have to dick around setting up bind9 or dnsmasq. Which leaves me in a pickle. I feel bad asking him to go through all the work to set up a bind9 server after he offered up space on his server for free, but I cannot seem to find a service that ONLY hosts DNS entries. I don't really need all of the services that DynDNS provides, but I'm willing to use that if nothing else comes up. One would think DNS hosting could be done incredibly cheaply, but I have found no real solutions, and any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks, Ryan -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: GoogleOS
Carl Parrish wrote: > Sorry if this has already been brought up. > Does it really serve us the community and / or does it really serve > Google to have two Linux based Operating Systems? (Android / Milestone, > and ChromeOS). Do you think Chrome will just be a rebranded Android or do > they really plan to support two? How can Linux best gain from the mountain > of new users this will bring? ChromeOS is bastardized GNU/Linux designed to deliver non free software. The way they are playing their cards, it shouldn't need much support besides a working gecko or webkit backend. Here's my two cents on the whole matter from way back when. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/why-chromeos-scares-me-or- open-standards-open-source/ Ryan -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
ABLEconf Media
Hello everyone, So ABLEconf was this weekend and I want to extend a HUGE 'thanks' to everyone involved and attending the event. It was a pretty awesome day for everyone, and barring a few mixups in scheduling it was a good show. I'd like to extend special thanks to Lisa and everyone else who volunteered to record presentations. If anyone with recordings of the presentations could contact me offlist at this address, that would be awesome. I would like to have the presentations available via an ABLEconf blip.tv channel so that anyone can see some of the awesome presentations we had at the event. Other than video, I noticed that many folks were taking photography. ABLEconf has an official facebook 'fan' page at http://www.facebook.com/pages/ABLEconf/35748074360 which we use as one of our public faces. Unfortunately this page is pretty lacking of photos, even from our 2008 event. If you took any photos, it would be awesome if you could become a fan of us on facebook and upload some photos, and tag them if possible. Thanks a lot, Ryan Rix ABLEconf Presentations Committee Chair -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Cheapy Mc Cheap Cheap cell phone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks everyone for the feedback; I'll be pointing my dad at this thread tomorrow evening to see what he thinks. Ryan Ryan Rix wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey guys, > > So, my dad had his cell phone service through Qwest for quiet a while > now... A 15$/month 30 minute plan with the cheapest phone they had > available, basically just to use in emergencies or to call me when he is > driving to pick me up from somewhere. > > A little while ago, my dad got a letter from Qwest saying they were > discontinuing their cellular service and he'd have to go elsewhere for > cellular. > > Basically, he wants to pay as little as humanly possible to use his > cellphone. I think last month he racked up a whopping four minutes of > cellular usage, so having a plan with OVER 9000 minutes a month is simply > unnecessary. We looked at a few pre-paid plans, specifically verizon's > plans, but after doing the math, it seemed that there was no way to simply > say 'I want to only pay .25$ for every minute I use' without preloading, > at minimum, 400 minutes. Which expire every 30 days. > > I also suggested that he just get one of those cheap-o phones they sell at > drug stores and grocery stores, but we kind of worry what the cellular > service would be like. He travels up north fairly often (show low, > pinetop, etc) and often is in areas where his Qwest phone did not get a > signal, whereas my Verizon phone did. > > Where could he get a working cell phone, preferably free or less than 100$ > with a pay per minute plan with minutes that either don't expire or can be > loaded (or billed automatically!) in tiny increments? > > This is probably a hopeless cause given how MaBell-ish cell phone > companies have become lately... :< > > - -- > Ryan Rix > Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer > > Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing > via GMane NNTP. Thank you. > > http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash > XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com > AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash > IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and > countless other FOSS channels. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkrcxXkACgkQqbqTmzp42OHIQQCfTtSc1szevNMbswO+K7t4vN8j > XWUAniRUfyiRr3AFGIZZWW6H3+SHQ6iG > =sdVW > -END PGP SIGNATURE- - -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrf/TQACgkQqbqTmzp42OGDrQCaAsxtkfMmoEv8BrL1lQEXae+z OqgAn19FyIpedmF1VAlPuzD3Cy96AIwh =609U -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Fwd: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
w volume control application, first seen in Fedora 11, has been improved to restore some of the popular functionality from earlier releases without making the interface too complex. * GNOME Shell preview - Fedora 12 includes an early version of GNOME Shell, which will become the default interface for GNOME 3.0 and beyond. To try it, install the gnome-shell package, and use the Desktop Effects configuration tool to enable it. It will only work correctly from the GNOME desktop environment, not others such as KDE or Xfce. This is a preview technology, and some video cards may not be supported. * KDE 4.3 - The new KDE features an updated "Air" theme and fully configurable keyboard shortcuts in Plasma, improved performance and new desktop effects in the window manager, a new bug reporting tool, and a configuration tool for the LIRC infra-red remote control system. * Cool new stuff for developers beginning with Eclipse Galileo, which includes more plugins than ever before. Perl 6 is now included, along with PHP 5.3. For Haskell developers, the Haskell Platform now provides a standardized set of libraries and tools. But one of the biggest changes for developers is that most of the nice new features of Fedora 12, from Bluetooth to WebCams is implemented through underlying libraries, and many of the improvements will be included simply by relinking your application. Also available in this release are SystemTap 1.0 for improved instrumenting and debugging of binaries, complete with Eclipse integration, and the newest NetBeans IDE for Java development. * Cool new stuff for sysadmins includes added functionality for clustered Samba services (including active/active configurations) over GFS2; and the ability to boot a cluster of Fedora systems from a single, shared root file system. * Multi-Pointer X - The update to X.Org server 1.7 introduces the X Input Extension version 2.0 (XI2), with much work contributed by Red Hat's Peter Hutterer. This extension provides a new client API for handling input devices and also Multi-Pointer X (MPX) functionality. MPX functionality allows X to cope with many inputs of arbitrary types simultaneously, a prerequisite for (among others) multitouch-based desktops and multi-user interaction on a single screen. This is low-level work that applications and desktop environments will incrementally take advantage of in future releases. More details are available in the Release Notes and in the XI2 tag of Peter Hutterer's blog at http://who-t.blogspot.com/search/label/xi2 A full feature list is available on the wiki at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/FeatureList OK, go get it. You know you can't wait. http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease Draft release notes and guides for several languages are available at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts.html -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating --- -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Cheapy Mc Cheap Cheap cell phone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey guys, So, my dad had his cell phone service through Qwest for quiet a while now... A 15$/month 30 minute plan with the cheapest phone they had available, basically just to use in emergencies or to call me when he is driving to pick me up from somewhere. A little while ago, my dad got a letter from Qwest saying they were discontinuing their cellular service and he'd have to go elsewhere for cellular. Basically, he wants to pay as little as humanly possible to use his cellphone. I think last month he racked up a whopping four minutes of cellular usage, so having a plan with OVER 9000 minutes a month is simply unnecessary. We looked at a few pre-paid plans, specifically verizon's plans, but after doing the math, it seemed that there was no way to simply say 'I want to only pay .25$ for every minute I use' without preloading, at minimum, 400 minutes. Which expire every 30 days. I also suggested that he just get one of those cheap-o phones they sell at drug stores and grocery stores, but we kind of worry what the cellular service would be like. He travels up north fairly often (show low, pinetop, etc) and often is in areas where his Qwest phone did not get a signal, whereas my Verizon phone did. Where could he get a working cell phone, preferably free or less than 100$ with a pay per minute plan with minutes that either don't expire or can be loaded (or billed automatically!) in tiny increments? This is probably a hopeless cause given how MaBell-ish cell phone companies have become lately... :< - -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrcxXkACgkQqbqTmzp42OHIQQCfTtSc1szevNMbswO+K7t4vN8j XWUAniRUfyiRr3AFGIZZWW6H3+SHQ6iG =sdVW -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ABLEconf 2009 FOSS Gaming Day ISO images -- plz2b seeding
Nevermind... I'm just going to bring a machine to ABLEconf for installing the live images. Faster and less bandwidth. Ryan Rix wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > For those of you who don't know, Sunday October 25th will be gaming day at > ABLEconf 2009. SlickMcRunFast and I will be managing this event. Expect > some info on the ABLEconf homepage tonight. > > http://rrix.fedorapeople.org/ABLEconf%202009%20FOSS%20Gaming%20Day%20ISOs.torrent > > That is a torrent to two iso images for ABLEconf 2009's Sunday FOSS Gaming > Day.. I created them in the event that some participants want a live image > for security's sake, or simply for not having to download and install > packages on their production system. > > It also makes it easier for us to bum/zombify machines for folks who show > up without a machine suitable for gaming. > > Could any interested party download and seed? It's on my laptop so I'm > kind of afraid I won't be able to seed enough. Having a bigger pool of > users will help out. I'm limited to 100kbit up or so I'm pretty sure any > other seed will be faster. it's a 3.3g torrent. You can probably get away > with just downloading/seeding the live image and the README file. > > These are Fedora respins, there's nothing illegal in the torrents, even > the data files are under a Free license. > -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat Writer Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
ABLEconf 2009 FOSS Gaming Day ISO images -- plz2b seeding
Hello Everyone, For those of you who don't know, Sunday October 25th will be gaming day at ABLEconf 2009. SlickMcRunFast and I will be managing this event. Expect some info on the ABLEconf homepage tonight. http://rrix.fedorapeople.org/ABLEconf%202009%20FOSS%20Gaming%20Day%20ISOs.torrent That is a torrent to two iso images for ABLEconf 2009's Sunday FOSS Gaming Day.. I created them in the event that some participants want a live image for security's sake, or simply for not having to download and install packages on their production system. It also makes it easier for us to bum/zombify machines for folks who show up without a machine suitable for gaming. Could any interested party download and seed? It's on my laptop so I'm kind of afraid I won't be able to seed enough. Having a bigger pool of users will help out. I'm limited to 100kbit up or so I'm pretty sure any other seed will be faster. it's a 3.3g torrent. You can probably get away with just downloading/seeding the live image and the README file. These are Fedora respins, there's nothing illegal in the torrents, even the data files are under a Free license. -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Horked-up system, Fedora 11
Vaughn Treude wrote: > Hello all: > Recently I upgraded my main Linux desktop to Fedora 11. Everything was > great, until a couple nights ago I was woken by a frantic beeping coming > from my office. It was my Fedora machine, which was spewing out weird > "SELinux troubleshoot" messages. I rebooted the machine, and it was > running very slowly, so I shut it down. > Today I got time to look at it. The first thing I encountered was an > ominous error at login, something about "Gnome power management > configuration" being invalid. Then I discovered X would not start; it > went to a black screen and appeared to be hung. I could, however, log in > in console mode. > The first thing I noticed was that my "messages" file in /var/log had > become humungous. > About the time of the incident, there were several thousand messages of > this form: > > Oct 8 07:41:48 vaughn kernel: [drm:r128_cce_stop] *ERROR* r128_cce_stop > called > without lock held, held 0 owner f50efd20 f50efd20 > Oct 8 07:41:48 vaughn kernel: [drm:r128_cce_reset] *ERROR* > r128_cce_reset called without lock held, held 0 owner f50efd20 f50efd20 > Oct 8 07:41:48 vaughn kernel: [drm:r128_cce_start] *ERROR* > r128_cce_start called without lock held, held 0 owner f50efd20 f50efd20 > Oct 8 07:41:48 vaughn kernel: [drm:r128_cce_idle] *ERROR* r128_cce_idle > called > without lock held, held 0 owner f50efd20 f50efd20 > > I googled this problem and discovered that (duh!) r128_cce refers to my > ATI Rage 128 driver. I wondered if this card was getting ready to give > up the ghost. (Previously I'd had occasionally lockups when in the > screensaver which I decided were probably video-related - when I turned > of the screen saver, the problems went away.) So I decided to try > rebooting the machine and logging in under my old Centos install > (luckily I'd saved that partition.) Centos booted OK, I logged in, and X > came up fine. So apparently the card is still working, though perhaps > the driver (in Fedora) got hosed. > > So once again I checked out the /var/log/message file in the Fedora root > partition. In today's entry, the message file contains a bunch of error > messages of this type: > Oct 10 20:09:43 vaughn gdm-simple-greeter[4745]: WARNING: could not get > gconf key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages': Failed to contact > configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable > TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system > crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - > 1: Could not send message to gconf daemon: Process /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 > received signal 6) > > Followed by some of these: > Oct 10 20:09:56 vaughn setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing > console-kit-dae (consolekit_t) "sys_resource" consolekit_t. For complete > SELinux messages. run sealert -l 20147317-bf50-4d55-819f-465501e5db55 > Oct 10 20:10:22 vaughn sedispatch: AVC Message for setroubleshoot, > dropping message > > and then a whole boat load of these: > Oct 10 20:31:49 vaughn kernel: Xorg:3937 freeing invalid memtype > e0196000-e019a000 > > So I don't know if I have a video problem, a network problem, a security > problem, an X problem, or if the machine's just totally hosed. > Interestingly enough, I had just tried to run a security update on the > system the night before the Incident. For some unknown reason, it > aborted. I saved the bug report but it appears to be mostly memory dumps > which mean nothing to me. > Unfortunately I usually don't bother to back up the root partition on a > new install until I've gotten everything configured just right. I'd > finally gotten there a few days before, but hadn't gotten around to > actually doing the backup. > > So, any suggestions? Does it sound like it's so badly hosed I have to > reinstall? > I suppose I could try the "repair" utility on the Fedora install disk, > but haven't had much luck with it in the past. > I guess I could go back to the console login and try to do a yum update > manually. (Yum was working fine for configuring all my media players, so > I don't know why the recommended security update failed.) > I'd appreciate any suggestions on the best course of action! > Thanks! > > Vaughn T Sorry for the late reply. Busy hashing out ABLEconf stuff... :] Did a yum upgrade help anything? what is the output of doing that? That bug report you sent me off list didn't really clear anything up, unfortunately :< Does disabling SELinux or forcing a relable help, as some other posters suggested? Ryan -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Please refrain from ma
Re: needed: west side mtg representative
G Gambill wrote: > Do we have a schedule for this month. and What exactly are the > deliverables on my part? Sorry for the delay... Basically, we wait until the last minute to do schedules. Like, Tuesday night, some times... As for what you'll have to do "Hi, i'm so and so representative for PLUG WSM. Uhm, yesh, tonight, we're having presentation on such and such by so and so. Here's some announcements Hans asked me to give. Tiem for presentation. " and I think you're responsible for keeping track of some PLUG stuff, projector, router, etc, but I'm not so sure on that. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. Fortune: Avoid the Gates of Hell. Use Linux -- unknown source http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Horked-up system, Fedora 11
Hello Vaughn, Please see my comments and suggestions below... Vaughn Treude wrote: > Hello all: > Recently I upgraded my main Linux desktop to Fedora 11. Everything was > great, until a couple nights ago I was woken by a frantic beeping coming > from my office. It was my Fedora machine, which was spewing out weird > "SELinux troubleshoot" messages. I rebooted the machine, and it was > running very slowly, so I shut it down. > Today I got time to look at it. The first thing I encountered was an > ominous error at login, something about "Gnome power management > configuration" being invalid. Then I discovered X would not start; it > went to a black screen and appeared to be hung. I could, however, log in > in console mode. > The first thing I noticed was that my "messages" file in /var/log had > become humungous. > About the time of the incident, there were several thousand messages of > this form: > > Oct 8 07:41:48 vaughn kernel: [drm:r128_cce_stop] *ERROR* r128_cce_stop > called > without lock held, held 0 owner f50efd20 f50efd20 > Oct 8 07:41:48 vaughn kernel: [drm:r128_cce_reset] *ERROR* > r128_cce_reset called without lock held, held 0 owner f50efd20 f50efd20 > Oct 8 07:41:48 vaughn kernel: [drm:r128_cce_start] *ERROR* > r128_cce_start called without lock held, held 0 owner f50efd20 f50efd20 > Oct 8 07:41:48 vaughn kernel: [drm:r128_cce_idle] *ERROR* r128_cce_idle > called > without lock held, held 0 owner f50efd20 f50efd20 oh noes! This sounds like a problem with the DRM kernel module... NOTE that it has nothing to do with Digitial Rights (or restrictions :-) ) management. It's Direct Rendering Modules for graphics. > > I googled this problem and discovered that (duh!) r128_cce refers to my > ATI Rage 128 driver. I wondered if this card was getting ready to give > up the ghost. (Previously I'd had occasionally lockups when in the > screensaver which I decided were probably video-related - when I turned > of the screen saver, the problems went away.) So I decided to try > rebooting the machine and logging in under my old Centos install > (luckily I'd saved that partition.) Centos booted OK, I logged in, and X > came up fine. So apparently the card is still working, though perhaps > the driver (in Fedora) got hosed. This is how it sounds to me... > > So once again I checked out the /var/log/message file in the Fedora root > partition. In today's entry, the message file contains a bunch of error > messages of this type: > Oct 10 20:09:43 vaughn gdm-simple-greeter[4745]: WARNING: could not get > gconf key '/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/recent-languages': Failed to contact > configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable > TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system > crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - > 1: Could not send message to gconf daemon: Process /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 > received signal 6) > > Followed by some of these: > Oct 10 20:09:56 vaughn setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing > console-kit-dae (consolekit_t) "sys_resource" consolekit_t. For complete > SELinux messages. run sealert -l 20147317-bf50-4d55-819f-465501e5db55 > Oct 10 20:10:22 vaughn sedispatch: AVC Message for setroubleshoot, > dropping message > > and then a whole boat load of these: > Oct 10 20:31:49 vaughn kernel: Xorg:3937 freeing invalid memtype > e0196000-e019a000 > > So I don't know if I have a video problem, a network problem, a security > problem, an X problem, or if the machine's just totally hosed. > Interestingly enough, I had just tried to run a security update on the > system the night before the Incident. For some unknown reason, it > aborted. I saved the bug report but it appears to be mostly memory dumps > which mean nothing to me. Please either attach that to a post here, pastebin it, or mail it to me offlist. This is probably the root of your issue. If it aborted during the install phase (which it most likely wouldn't do, but you never know) you have a good chance of hosing your system. Also a copy of /var/log/yum.log would help as well > Unfortunately I usually don't bother to back up the root partition on a > new install until I've gotten everything configured just right. I'd > finally gotten there a few days before, but hadn't gotten around to > actually doing the backup. > > So, any suggestions? Does it sound like it's so badly hosed I have to > reinstall? > I suppose I could try the "repair" utility on the Fedora install disk, > but haven't had much luck with it in the past. > I guess I could go back to the console login and try to do a yum update >
Re: needed: west side mtg representative
Lyle Tuttle wrote: > .let's not "let George do it" all.. Got your back. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. Fortune: Comedy, like Medicine, was never meant to be practiced by the general public. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: needed: west side mtg representative
G Gambill wrote: > What is the schedule on these meetings That's usually decided closer to the date of the meetings. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. Fortune: "I'd love to go out with you, but I'm staying home to work on my cottage cheese sculpture." http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Bulk HTML mailing
Craig White wrote: > I have a customer that thinks he wants to try bulk e-mail to generate > sales. I had nothing to do with this. > > He hired some graphic artist who of course creates a single jpg file > which is useless. > > Now I have to create an html file that we can mail. > And we hear the collective screams of the internet... NO! NO! NO!!! MAKE IT STOP OH NO!!! -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. Fortune: People say I live in my own little fantasy world... well, at least they *know* me there! -- D.L. Roth http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OCTOBER Foundation for Blind Children Security Series LAB
Lisa Kachold wrote: > in addition to the great opportunity to > return to the Pacific Northwet and take a road trip in my cash for > clunker 35 mph car. How long did it take to get there??? *ducks* Hope you have a lot of fun, and learn some fun stuff to take back to the Hackfests. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. Fortune: Newton's Law of Gravitation: What goes up must come down. But don't expect it to come down where you can find it. Murphy's Law applies to Newton's. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
JD Austin wrote: > From my understanding changing the number in /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/K* or > /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/S* changes the order. If two have the same number they go > alphabetically. THis is correct. > -- > JD Austin > Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC > j...@twingeckos.com > 480.288.8195x201 > http://www.twingeckos.com > > > Jonathan > Swift<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/jonathan_swift.html> - > "May you live every day of your life." > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Eric Cope wrote: > >> Hello all, >> Does anyone know how to change the order in which services are started >> using the rc script? My particular system is FreeBSD, but Linux is >> similar (right?)? >> Eric >> >> -- >> Eric Cope >> http://cope-et-al.com >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. Fortune: Sic transit discus mundi -- From the System Administrator's Guide, by Lars Wirzenius http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Off-topic-ized Re: On-topic gag. A good one.
Jim March wrote: > http://imaletyoufinish.com/kanye-will-let-computers-finish/ http://twitpic.com/hza49 -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. Fortune: A gift of a flower will soon be made to you. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Texting Solution
Nathan England wrote: > I have verizon - verizon texts, but I have to pay 10 cents per message > or I can spend 10 bucks and get a block. Or go with the more expensive > InPulse plan, but I don't use the phone enough to justify that. I mostly > use skype or GV. Right. You might want to check with them anyways. I have 1500 texts a month, and free verizon->verizon texts, for example. You may check to see if that is just "automagic" (as it, IMO, should be, but that's a flamebait for another day) -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Well, I think Perl should run faster than C. :-) -- Larry Wall in <199801200306.taa11...@wall.org> http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Texting Solution
Nathan England wrote: > I use google talk a lot. Google Talk -> jabber chat messaging, NOT google Voice, though that may work, too, on thinking about it... > I use it as my primary phone number now. I have > a verizon cell phone, but I got the InPulse pay as you go service, so > text messaging costs me 10 cents a pop. I also use skype and Gizmo, so I > added my cell, skype and gizmo numbers to my google voice account and I > love it! I send sms through that as well, but using the google interface > isn't any different than my current squirrel mail setup. Verizon (InPulse MAY) have free Verizon->Verizon texts, you should check at the verizon store/online. > > Or is gtalk different? I have a google talk jabber account... Now > you've got me curious, can I add her as a contact in my gmail and have > sms sent back and forth... oh the possibilities!!! There is a gmail labs feature that will allow you to send sms through the GMail chat interface, which is routed to a PTSN number that she can text back (which appear as IMs) I'm not sure if enabling the feature in gmail labs will let it work in gtalk or direct through jabber, though. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Sigh. I like to think it's just the Linux people who want to be on the "leading edge" so bad they walk right off the precipice. (Craig E. Groeschel) http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Texting Solution
Nathan England wrote: > My sister and I text eachother quite a bit. Except I do not have a texting > plan, so I email her phonenum...@vtext.com like all verizon phones work. > When she sends me an email the message go to a specific imap folder for > only her messages. > > I would love to find a small app, such as kopete or pidgin, that would let > me send messages to her as simply as clicking on a contact name, and have > her messages show up the same as an instant message. > > Anyone know of something like this for email? Or another solution that > might work better, other than me getting a texting plan on my phone...? Got a gtalk account? Add your sister as a contact on it, add her phone number to the contact and enable the GMail labs feature to send sms through gtalk. I think you can only do it via gmail UI, not xmpp or gtalk, but that is a solution. You will even get a dedicated phone number she can add to her phone book. It's google, it's not perfect, but it works. is your phone verizon? Ryan -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: // Minor lesson: don't fuck about with something you don't fully understand -- the dosdoom source code http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: "Pulsectomy" howto?`
Alan Dayley wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Jim March<1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: >> It's VERY easy to give Ubuntu a "Pulsectomy". >> > > Got a pointer for doing that on Kubuntu 9.04? It may solve my Flash > and audio problem. > Just apt-get remove it :) KDE's system settings should automatically use the next device down (presumably your ALSA device) when it realizes that the pulseaudio device is broken. The only trick comes when your hardware doesn't support mixing, when you should try dmix. Googling around will find you a quick howto for dmix. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: * wichert_ imagines master without a MTA wichert: ehm? that might hinder peformance of the BTS :p http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KDE 4.X
wayne wrote: > Hey Ryan, Thanks for the reply. > Specifically, the things that are bugging me right now are: > > A: I use PANELS on dual monitors. Lower AND upper panels on both. In > 3.x, I could position a icon on the panel EXACTLY where I wanted it it. > 4.x appears to stack them against each other and that SUCKS for grouping > stuff. I think that there is a fix for this in 4.3; you can have a different 'activity' for each monitor, which allows you to do this, and more, pretty easily. > B. I had a "widget" that gave me a bunch of terminal options like LINUX, > ROOT, etc. That tool appears to no longer be available AND its apparent > replacement, "Konsole profiles" blows chunks. If you out it in a panel > it takes up all the open space across the whole panel. Give KRunner a try, it has a profile launcher. KRunner in general is amazing. Alt-F2 by default. > > > C: along those lines, it used to be easy to create a icon on the > desktop, then just drag it to a panel. NO CAN DO anymore. > > I STILL cannot figure out what good "DESKTOP" view is, as opposed to > FOLDER view, which is closer to what I expect. WHAT GOOD IS IT??? KDE4's widget layout will make it somewhat different. having a Folder View that points to ~/Desktop accomplishes, in essence, the same thing that a 'regular' desktop does, so I don't see the point in this argument, tbh. > Guys, I gotta say: If I didn't know any better, I would SWEAR a M$ > person got on the dev team and is trying to hose KDE. I MEAN IT. It is > THAT bad, to me. I ___completely___ disagree, but YMMV i guess... -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: The greatest productive force is human selfishness. -- Robert Heinlein http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KDE 4.X
John wrote: > Why do you think Fedora's packages are better? I'm having a horrible time > with Kubuntu 9.04 freezing, crashing, x crashing so I may make a change. > Well, for one it doesn't do any of that ;) IMO, Fedora also has a better relationship with upstream, more issues are fixed by the KDE Special Interests Group, and in general the entire Fedora project is more even on the GNOME/KDE debate than the Ubuntu camp so there is somewhat better support. it may also do you some good to run OpenSuSE, they also have good KDE builds (in the OpenSuSE build service, IMO the default packages they ship in the latest version are fairly ancient and have some KDE3 deps) -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: We were so poor that we thought new clothes meant someone had died. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KDE 4.X
Jerry Davis wrote: > I am not really sure anymore, but I have now gone over to gnome since the > kde 4 debacle. > > I wish the old konsole was back, I had a whole bunch of ssh terminals I > went into and automatically renamed the terminal tab. now NO ONE seems to > know how to do it - a LOT of ideas and theories on how it is supposed to > -- but no one with knowledge of how to do it. I have a script that can do this. Uses dbus. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. -- Mark Twain http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KDE 4.X
wayne wrote: > Is it me, or are others finding this version NON-user friendly too. > > 4 times I have put Kubuntu on my system, and 4 times... I HATE Kde4.x > > What other distro's can I go to that have a look similar to the old > KDE3.x? Hi, Kubuntu's KDE4 packages are, imo, garbage. I've been running KDE since 4.2 on Fedora 11 and am absolutely loving it. If you could give some specifics I'd love to help you out. If you still want KDE3 get an old distro. The rest have evolved. KDE4.3 is at the same point, or farther along than KDE3.5, imo, and now would be the perfect time to pick up KDE4. Ryan -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: A lot of people I know believe in positive thinking, and so do I. I believe everything positively stinks. -- Lew Col http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: rsync and deleted files
Photorec and luck. Nathan England wrote: > > I plugged my USB drive into my system, ran my backup script and went to > supper. My backup script contains > > rsync -avz --delete-after /home/naubrey/ /media/320GB/naubrey/ > > > Usually, it works great. Problem is my /home/naubrey/ directory on my > system was EMPTY and it wiped out my backup > > I just wiped my work laptop and reinstalled, but I had not copied my user > directory stuff back because I needed to make some additional changes. I > made the changes and wanted to back up the changes, forgetting my user > directory was included in my all_inclusive backup script... > > The USB drive is ext2 and when I came back I immediately unmounted and > mounted ro. > > This is a typical user directory with 60GB of text files, abiword files, > kword files, OpenOffice files, mp3, ogg, about 100 avi dvds, and thousands > of notes... Some files were only 2 k others were over 1GB. > > As I have never attempted recovery of deleted files because I am (99% of > the time) very vigilante about my backups. I design backup systems for > customers ha ha > > What utilities or programs are there that might automate this as I really > don't care to sit and tell the system to recover this inode, and yes, this > inode, and again y to this inode as there are well over 200,000 files. > > Thanks for any help, insights, condolences!!! > > nathan -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: ... I'm IMAGINING a sensuous GIRAFFE, CAVORTING in the BACK ROOM of a KOSHER DELI -- http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Network Manager & Keyring
Joseph Sinclair wrote: > The short answer is that, AFAIK, you cannot do what you want. Wait, what OS is this? Sure you can; patch it out and rebuild it :D -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Man belongs wherever he wants to go. -- Wernher von Braun http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
MediaWiki causes me to ragequit
Hey PLUGgers, Today the ABLEconf internal wiki was hit pretty hard by spammers. :( We looked at how to protect the pages so that only registered users can edit any part of the wiki. Unfortunately, according to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8796 that has been disabled, due to the fact that any user could then change the page so that only admin could edit it... or something. Obviously it has little bearing on our internal wiki, but still keeps us from protecting those pages. Outside of doing this by hand, what do you recommend to secure our mediawiki install? -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: She asked me, "What's your sign?" I blinked and answered "Neon," I thought I'd blow her mind... http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux losing stability?
Jim March wrote: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: >> What a load of horse puckey! >> >> Silly, silly, silly, silly! > > Well...not entirely. > > He uses Network Manager and it's WiFi setup as one example. And I'm > afraid he's right, or at least he was. Network Manager 7.x series as > used in Ubuntu Intrepid and Jaunty was a mess. Debian refused to go > there even in Sid and with good reason. > > The "release candidate 8" code found in Karmic is much more solid. > > We've also had a period of time lately when the "GUI stack" was in > flux. Jaunty shipped with badly screwed up Intel drivers for example > - it got about half of the upstream kernel/xorg/mesa/Intel parts it > needed and a VERY good case can be made that it should have been > delayed. Karmic is yet again going to sort all that out. > > HOWEVER, if you don't need the latest and greatest bleeding edge > stuff, it's always been possible to set up a stable system. In the > Ubuntu family, you went with Hardy. > > And that's what he's missing: if you know what to look for, there are > always stable options out there, either Debian or Centos or Ubuntu > LTS. > > The issues he does cite are pretty rapidly getting sorted out in the > "edgier" areas. And some of the issues that are cited have no bearing on other distros. *The non-buntu distros did not suffer from the Intel-hell that Ubuntu 9.04 shipped with. (you cited that, not the OP, but still) *"where people are assumed to not know their base from their apex," This is a load of horse puckey indeed. We all know that. How many boys in here stick to using only a command line? Anyone? The wording of this article at times seems to stipulate a negative point of view, a view somewhat attacking desktop linux, even if it isn't necessarily true: >Things like hardware detection, graphical setup, removable media control >and networking have had several attempts over the years to be automated so >the unwashed masses can wash their hands of those matters. Due to the >unimaginable amount of different configuration possibilities these are >enormous tasks. Some have been successful (relatively) and some not. Relative to what? Windows? BSD? DOS? What is wrong with the hardware detection? Most problems of non-detected hardware are the fault of the hardware vendors choosing to only ship proprietary drivers and firmware which distros cannot, and should not, support. What is wrong with the graphical setup? Same problem: vendors shipping non- free and buggy drivers (nVidia, I am looking at you!) What is wrong with networking? Okay, okay, network manager can be a little, ahem, messed up when dealing with encrypted wireless networks, but that is because that stack is constantly in flux and being improved upon. You can also in some cases, again, blame the vendors, for shipping in many cases, proprietary drivers, or forcing users to use ndiswrapper, which never really worked or performed well for me. What about remote media control? Explain that a little better, I'd ask the author. Of course, that isn't going to happen, because it is a one sided 'discussion.' All in all, I find this article borderline FUD. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: It's time to boot, do your boot ROMs know where your disk controllers are? http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Terribly OT: do you need a car...
James Finstrom wrote: > Hey all I know this is probably bad mojo and terribly off topic but I am > desperate... My birthday is tomorrow and I am going through a bit of a > mid-life crises ( I'm not that old so I will probably die young) anyhow my > goal for this birthday was to get a motorcycle and frankly the economy > sucks. I put my car up on craigslist as the proceeds from it's sale will > allow me to purchase said motorcycle. If you or anyone you know is looking > for a car let me know the CL ad is @ > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/bar/1356816100.html > > Sorry for the spam all and thanks for your time... > I've got about 3500$ going for a car right now if you are interested and willing. Give me a call, number's in the sig. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: crop circles in the corn shell http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Ryan Rix wrote: > >> I was making fun of the original statement of the declaration of >> independence "all men are created equal" in that women, african >> americans, poor people, etc, simply did not count. Sorry if anyone took >> it other than a joke as was obviously the case... :( >> >> Bob Holfmann got it, I suppose :) > > Did You mean Holtzman? Yes, I'm terribly sorry, Bob; i was typing from memory without the actual thread view open :( -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: We are all worms. But I do believe I am a glowworm. -- Winston Churchill http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Time to Trade in My Blackberry
Charles Jones wrote: > On 8/31/09 1:32 PM, "David Huerta" wrote: >> I've been anxiously looking forward to the n900; The prospect of a >> mobile browser with Flash support will be awesome for making iPhone >> users jealous. > > The n900 seems cool. I have a jailbroken iPhone and honestly I have no > desire for flash support, as most of the flash I see are stupid ads. As > for things like YouTube I'm sure the app works better than the flash > version would. True with flash it would open up more video content like > Vimeo, Hulu, etc. But I wouldn't be too jealous, since I can: > > * SSH/scp/ftp into my phone (access controlled of course) > * SSH/scp/ftp out of my phone > * VNC to my phone > * RDP from my phone to a winblows machine to remote admin > * run tcpdump on my phone > * run apache on my phone > * run python, bash, and perl scripts on my phone > * play video files on my phone (or even remote using VLC) > * schedule cron jobs on my phone > * use sqlite3 to access the phones sms, voicemail, and contacts databases > * use /etc/hosts on my phone to redirect known ad sites to 127.0.0.1 > * Run almost anything you can compile for arm on my phone > * Using a variety of pay, free, or roll-your-own apps to allow me to > remotely locate my phone, lock it down, or wipe it if necessary. > * Install any of the thousands of apps and games available, including > things like playstation/nintendo/c64 emulators, which open up thousands of > other games. > * Write software for my phone with the Iphone SDK > > I'm definitely not an "Apple fanboi", and personally I hate most of Apples > policies especially the ones where they decide exactly what your "user > experience" should be, and if you could not jailbreak the iPhone I > wouldn't recommend one at all. > > That being said, the main reasons that I like my jailbroken iPhone are: > * Its basically a little unix server, which allows you to do all of the > things I listed above plus all of the other things possible with such a > device. > * It has the best mobile web experience (using Safari including multiple > tabs) that I have found so far. The only thing missing is indeed flash, > but so far I have been just fine without it, and I'm not sure if I would > even want it, if I had to see stupid "punch the monkey" flash popups. > > P.S. I realize I made no mention of "making calls with my iphone". Of > course it does that too, but I seldom make or receive voice calls, but the > ones I have worked fine. It is basically having a tiny unix box in my > pocket that drew me to, and so far holds me to, having an Iphone. All of this an n900 would do, but without jailbreaking it, because it's more Free than an iPhone ever will be. You could develop GUI applications with the FOSS maemo toolkit and GTK, rather than the proprietary-wtf-that-is- Objective-C, etc... Oh and of course, it's a cool GNU/Linux phone 8-) -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: They also surf who only stand on waves. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Time to Trade in My Blackberry
Bob Elzer wrote: > By then maybe the 901 or 902, which will have even more capabilities for > you to look forward to. > > And time to save money for the hopefully dropping price :) > But, but... I want my goodies now :) I really wanted to get a Palm Pre, because I'm a palm whore and it's a beautiful device, but the thing was on Sprint, and the Simply Everything plan should be renamed the Simply Ridiculously Expensive plan... I couldn't afford it if I had two jobs :( I ended up with a Verizon feature phone. Ryan > > -Original Message- > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Ryan > [Rix > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:45 PM > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: RE: Time to Trade in My Blackberry > > Fail :/ I'm a Verizon-slave for the next two years :( > > Ryan > > Bob Elzer wrote: > >> Call features >> >> * Integrated hands-free stereo speakers >> * Call waiting, call hold, call divert >> * Call timer >> * Logging of dialed, received and missed calls >> * Speed dialing via contact widget >> * Virbrating alert (internal) >> * Side volume keys >> * Mute/unmute >> * Contacts with images >> * Conference calling with up to 3 participants >> * Internet calling >> >> Email & Messaging >> >> * Supported protocols: Mail for Exchange, IMAP, POP3, SMTP >> * Support for email attachments >> * Support for rich HTML >> * SMS and Instant Messages as conversations >> * Support for Nokia Messaging service >> * Instant messaging and presence enhanced contacts >> * Multiple number, email and Instant Messaging details per >> contact, contacts with images >> * Support for assigning images to contacts >> >> Web browsing >> >> * Maemo browser powered by Mozilla technology >> * Adobe FlashT 9.4 support >> * Full screen browsing >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of >> Ryan [Rix >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:22 PM >> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> Subject: Re: Time to Trade in My Blackberry >> >> David Huerta wrote: >>> >>> With ammo prices being what they are now, maybe a small box of .45mm? >>> >>> As far as the phone's overall price though, that's likely to be >>> subsidized by a carrier's contract, which can sometimes knock off >>> most of the phone's MSRP. Give away the razor, sell the blades... >>> >> >> Are iFoners afraid of razorblades? >_> Is this an actual -phone-? I >> got the impression that it was like a Palm Tungsten W with the 3G >> connection simply for data >> >> -- >> Ryan Rix >> (623)-826-0051 >> >> Fortune: >> Elbonics, n.: >> The actions of two people maneuvering for one armrest in a movie >> theatre. >> -- "Sniglets", Rich Hall & Friends >> >> http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash >> XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com >> AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash >> IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and >> countless other FOSS channels. >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > -- > Ryan Rix > (623)-826-0051 > > Fortune: > Smear the road with a runner!! > > http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash > XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com > AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash > IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and > countless other FOSS channels. > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: A pessimist is a man who has been compelled to live with an optimist. -- Elbert Hubbard http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Time to Trade in My Blackberry
Fail :/ I'm a Verizon-slave for the next two years :( Ryan Bob Elzer wrote: > Call features > > * Integrated hands-free stereo speakers > * Call waiting, call hold, call divert > * Call timer > * Logging of dialed, received and missed calls > * Speed dialing via contact widget > * Virbrating alert (internal) > * Side volume keys > * Mute/unmute > * Contacts with images > * Conference calling with up to 3 participants > * Internet calling > > Email & Messaging > > * Supported protocols: Mail for Exchange, IMAP, POP3, SMTP > * Support for email attachments > * Support for rich HTML > * SMS and Instant Messages as conversations > * Support for Nokia Messaging service > * Instant messaging and presence enhanced contacts > * Multiple number, email and Instant Messaging details per contact, > contacts with images > * Support for assigning images to contacts > > Web browsing > > * Maemo browser powered by Mozilla technology > * Adobe FlashT 9.4 support > * Full screen browsing > > > > -Original Message- > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Ryan > [Rix > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:22 PM > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Time to Trade in My Blackberry > > David Huerta wrote: >> >> With ammo prices being what they are now, maybe a small box of .45mm? >> >> As far as the phone's overall price though, that's likely to be >> subsidized by a carrier's contract, which can sometimes knock off most >> of the phone's MSRP. Give away the razor, sell the blades... >> > > Are iFoners afraid of razorblades? >_> > Is this an actual -phone-? I got the impression that it was like a Palm > Tungsten W with the 3G connection simply for data > > -- > Ryan Rix > (623)-826-0051 > > Fortune: > Elbonics, n.: > The actions of two people maneuvering for one armrest in a movie > theatre. > -- "Sniglets", Rich Hall & Friends > > http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash > XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com > AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash > IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and > countless other FOSS channels. > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Smear the road with a runner!! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Time to Trade in My Blackberry
David Huerta wrote: > > With ammo prices being what they are now, maybe a small box of .45mm? > > As far as the phone's overall price though, that's likely to be > subsidized by a carrier's contract, which can sometimes knock off most > of the phone's MSRP. Give away the razor, sell the blades... > Are iFoners afraid of razorblades? >_> Is this an actual -phone-? I got the impression that it was like a Palm Tungsten W with the 3G connection simply for data -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Elbonics, n.: The actions of two people maneuvering for one armrest in a movie theatre. -- "Sniglets", Rich Hall & Friends http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Time to Trade in My Blackberry
David Huerta wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Benjamin Francom > wrote: >> I've been keeping an eye on the Nokia N8x series of devices since they >> run Linux. They will be releasing the n900 soon, and it looks really >> interesting. >> >> From Wikipedia: >> >> "The Nokia N900 is Nokia's next Maemo device, superseding the N810, >> expected to become available in late 2009. Unlike its Internet Tablet >> predecessors it will include phone functionality with 3G/HSPA >> capabilities. It will run the Linux-based Maemo 5 and is the first >> Nokia device based upon the TI OMAP3 microprocessor with ARM Cortex-A8 >> core. It is expected to be revealed at the Nokia World event in >> Germany on September 2nd. >> >> The device will be available in selected markets starting October 2009 >> with an estimated retail price of €500 excluding sales taxes and >> subsidies." >> >> >> http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/ >> > > I've been anxiously looking forward to the n900; The prospect of a > mobile browser with Flash support will be awesome for making iPhone > users jealous. > You're way too trendy :P Honestly flash is the least I care about on the n900; it looks simply amazing *g* and would make even the n810 users jealous :P -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: "Why should we subsidize intellectual curiosity?" -Ronald Reagan http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
Lyle Tuttle wrote: > At 10:31 PM 8/30/2009, Ryan Rix wrote: > >> > I think only land oners should have the right to vote. I do not own >> > anything so I would not get to vote. >> >>White land owning men? :P > > > Ryan, I love 'ya, but: > > As a fat, white, land owner, Country Club Member & a Republican, I > find this very offensive. (And yes, I see the , but the statement > serves no purpose, and in itself could be construed to be a racist > remark - think about it.) > > Enough of the stereotyping of what some perceive to be truth. The > fact is, statements like these serve no purpose except to promote false > logic. > > I am certain of this: There are racists of all colors, but not all > people of color are racists. (And for you purists: white is the > absence of color, but is included in this statement.) > > lyle tuttle In my defense: I was making fun of the original statement of the declaration of independence "all men are created equal" in that women, african americans, poor people, etc, simply did not count. Sorry if anyone took it other than a joke as was obviously the case... :( Bob Holfmann got it, I suppose :) -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Catsup and Mustard all over the place! It's the Human Hamburger! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
mike havens wrote: > I think only land oners should have the right to vote. I do not own > anything so I would not get to vote. White land owning men? :P > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, James Lee Bell > wrote: > >> Jason Spatafore wrote: >> > Until the representatives are removed...we will constantly struggle >> > with this so-called Democracy. Technology has finally caught up to >> > where it can be used for a direct Democratic country with lower costs >> > than running elections every two years. Now is the time to start >> > implementing. >> I rarely get involved in these discussions, preferring to lurk, but this >> is a very intriguing concept that *might* actually be feasible and >> achievable. All we have to do is figure out how to accomplish absolutely >> unhackable authentication without violating every right to privacy we >> hold dear. Anybody want to hack that up by next Thursday? :-) >> >> > And yes, my first vote is to eliminate paper ballots and bar people >> > without access to computers from elections. Sorry, a computer is >> > available almost everywhere you go. It's time to grow with the times >> > and move on. >> I have to say I find this specific means-testing inappropriate just >> considering simple demographics. Have we even broken the 50% threshold >> of our eligible-to-vote citizens that could have access beyond dial-up? >> Hey, you want to computerize (*securely*) the collection of votes in >> such a way that folks in "flyover country (/sarcasm)" get to use the >> mechanism without owning the device and infrastructure, and without the >> yearly trip to Bethlehem, I'm right there with you. Give it 25 years, >> and maybe every citizen will have some level of computing device to >> participate. Until then... >> >> Just to take a philosophical hitch that'll probably generate a reaction >> to put me back in lurk mode, I absolutely think there should be a simple >> means test to earn voting rights: for the government entity in which you >> are about to vote (fed, state, city), have you paid taxes to that entity >> in x% of your eligible voting life (18+)? (asbestos underwear engaged >> :-)). ------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Been Transferred Lately? http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
I tried to label at as OT, guess I borked up. Lisa Kachold wrote: > Why do we have TWO threads? > > Who inserted the Re in the subject??? > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jason > Spatafore wrote: >> On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 16:30 -0700, Ryan Rix wrote: >>> The lobbyists take advantage of said jack asses' laziness. >> >> I can't disagree with that. But you gotta hit the root cause of a >> problem, not just the middle man. >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: This login session: $13.76, but for you $11.88. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT:Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
Jason Spatafore wrote: > Sorry that I can't believe in the lobbyists corruption theory. > If you're looking for somebody to blame, blame the American people for > being a bunch of lazy jack asses when it comes to elections, not the > lobbyists. The lobbyists take advantage of said jack asses' laziness. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. -- Eric Hoffer http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
Jason Spatafore wrote: > On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 15:20 -0700, Ryan Rix wrote: >> > The president is asking for permission...it is up to us to grant it. >> No, it's up to the people who the lobbyists elected. > > *YOU* had a direct vote in their election to office and your vote was > just as meaningful as the lobbyists with equal weight. Again, we can say > it's corrupt all we want but *WE* do have a say. We do get to vote. And > we all know that every representative does not represent all their > constituents. Who pays for the advertisements and the money that gives the people who run for office the power and the footprint to actually get elected? Not me or anyone else; the lobbyists who want those people elected, the lobbyists who then control those who are in office. Ryan > > Until the representatives are removed...we will constantly struggle with > this so-called Democracy. Technology has finally caught up to where it > can be used for a direct Democratic country with lower costs than > running elections every two years. Now is the time to start > implementing. > > And yes, my first vote is to eliminate paper ballots and bar people > without access to computers from elections. Sorry, a computer is > available almost everywhere you go. It's time to grow with the times and > move on. How do you deal with the security implications/identity crises that computer based voting introduces? -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: "Gee, Toto, I don't think we are in Kansas anymore." http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
Jason Spatafore wrote: > The president is asking for permission...it is up to us to grant it. No, it's up to the people who the lobbyists elected. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Respect is a rational process -- McCoy, "The Galileo Seven", stardate 2822.3 http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 2.6.31 kernel
Technomage wrote: [snip] > > lastly, linux has the "good enough" mentality. put it into operation and > fix the bugs later (which never happens > half the time) That's the entire idealogy of OSI tactics -- the bazaar over the cathedral. > > Of course, we cannot DEMAND that the developers fix these problems (as > they are unpaid, etc), but it > would help if they did. Most of the primary developers on the kernel, the guys who make the most patches, are employed by major GNU/Linux companies, as was recently discussed, here, slashdot and elsewhere. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: He who invents adages for others to peruse takes along rowboat when going on cruise. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Neighbors Leeching Off Your Wireless? "Try Upside-Down-Ternet"
Benjamin Francom wrote: > I came across this pretty amusing link about deterring your neighbors > from stealing your Internet. > It involved splitting the network, iptables, and some redirection. > > http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html I tried that last year... my parents were NOT happy :D -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: No one wants war. -- Kirk, "Errand of Mercy", stardate 3201.7 http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Re: 2.6.31 kernel
James Mcphee wrote: > Remember back when Billy said "*640K* is *more* memory *than anyone* will > ever *need" ? > > * For those of us that do, it really DID seem like a lot. You could fit > your ENTIRE program in memory. Why would you need such a thing? > > I'm gonna save this thread for 20 years from now I can add it to the Bill > Gates quote and that one in popular science about computers fitting in a > room. > Sorry for trying to keep things on topic, I'll never do it again. Deepest apologies, Ryan Rix -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: I also never expected Intel to dispose of themselves in such a cute way. - Rik van Riel on linux-kernel http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 2.6.31 kernel
Jim March wrote: >>>To put things back on firm earth and on-topicness... Why on earth would > Linus even waste his time on trying to get this much memory addressed in > the kernel? What is the rational behind it, besides being a publicity > stunt?<< > > It ensures Linux maintains dominance in supercomputing, and yeah, that > IS a publicity stunt...but what's wrong with that as long as it > doesn't hurt lesser systems? I didn't say it was wrong at all. I just think it's a little unnecessary. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Life -- Love It or Leave It. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 2.6.31 kernel
Jim March wrote: > Osama Yo Mama uses terrorbytes! > > Ah! Oh, uhm... I agree...? To put things back on firm earth and on-topicness... Why on earth would Linus even waste his time on trying to get this much memory addressed in the kernel? What is the rational behind it, besides being a publicity stunt? -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Fun Facts, #14: In table tennis, whoever gets 21 points first wins. That's how it once was in baseball -- whoever got 21 runs first won. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 2.6.31 kernel
Stephen wrote: > right next to the hash pipe and dreams jar. > > ill see you there after work :-) > Heck, am I invited? I'd like to get in on some of that action. My eee would fly with it. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: A friend is a present you give yourself. -- Robert Louis Stevenson http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 2.6.31 kernel
Dazed_75 wrote: > Something of an understatement? LOL > > *Architecture code:* > >- From > 2.6.31<http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=c898faf91b3ec6b0f6efa35831b3984fa3331db0>, >Linux will address 2^46 instead of 2^44 bytes of RAM on x86-64 CPUs – >however, this currently affects very few people, as systems offering 16 >to 64 Tbytes of RAM are still rather rare. > Now THAT is a useful patch. Twenty years from now. :D -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: "This isn't brain surgery; it's just television." - David Letterman http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
[Fwd: [PLUG-Devel] West Side Meeting - Tonight 19:00]
Somehow I managed to send this to devel twice, when I meant to send it to discuss once xD --- Begin Message --- Hi guys, Since no one has stepped up with a specific location for tonight's West Side Meeting, and I don't think we will be able to get any of the locations Mike suggested on such short notice, Hans has decided that we will meet at Arrowheade Towne Centre's main food court. We have no presentations scheduled right now, so unless anyone decides to come up with one before then, or wing one once everyone arrives, this will be more of a stamtische event. The food court has various fast food outlets, and there are a ton of different restaurants in the area should we decide to move to a different location, so it should be a nice relaxing evening of GNU/Linux and Free Software. I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it tonight, since I was a little off kilter last night and forgot to make plans, but Hans will be there, so hopefully we can expect the normal group of guys to show up :) See you tonight (maybe) Ryan Rix -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Half the world is composed of people who have something to say and can't, and the other half who have nothing to say and keep on saying it. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. ___ PLUG-devel mailing list - plug-de...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-devel --- End Message --- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: location for west side mtg tomorrow
On Tue 25 August 2009 2:02:40 pm der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > is there a location for tomorow's west side meeting? > > The library isn't available. > > We already knew that the school would not be available this month, but, as > I posted earlier, it will now not be available for at least one semester. > We need to find a new location if the west side meetings are to continue. If no one suggests anything else, Arrowheade Towne Center is free if a little noisy, and in the route of two busses, at least. The meetings could only go to nine, like at the library, but there is a HUGE selection of food in the area. -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: I never pray before meals -- my mom's a good cook. http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: hp scanjet 3400c
betty wrote: > What is a good site to check if this scanner will work with my Ubuntu > Hardy Heron desktop? My daughter has it as an extra that she doesn't > need and if it would work w/my computer I would take it off her hands. > > I have a lot of old family pictures i really should scan to save from > the '30s -80's. If this one wouldn't work well; does anyone know of a > scanner they can recommend for this distro? I have had good luck w/hp > printers but can never get scanners to work well even with the evil > empire computers. > > thanks for any ideas > http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi is where you should check. It's not in there, so a quick google search for "hp scanjet 3400c linux" without the quotes returns http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1250806397914+28353475&threadId=95459 which says, in essence, if you compile all sorts of software that isn't in RHL7 (yes it's that old, the post is dated November 2003) it will work. So, given that post was six years ago, for six year old software, I'd say it will work fine on your machine. Good luck, Ryan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: What laptop to get to replace my 15" macbook?
Nadim Hoque wrote: > For the laptop in question just make sure it uses a atheros or intel > wifi card in it. To find out in the store, ask someone who really knows > the hardware and sometimes it will say on the bottom. The centrino > laptops do contain the intel wifi, but make sure that it is not > extremely new because I don't know if those will work like their new N > card that supposedly runs faster than other N cards. As someone else who > mentioned, just bring a live distro and try all of them out. > Realtek rtl8180 and rtl8185 chips work flawlessly on GNU/Linux and the latest kernels are already patched for your aircrack-ng funtimes. :) > Sorry to hear that you do not like your mac. Me, I love the thing since > I had gotten it. It's just as stable as linux to me and I never was > forced to do a os wipe and definitely better than windows. I do > understand why someone might not like macs because everything is not for > everybody. Which macbook pro did you wind up getting and how much are > you selling it for. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Best way to remove gnome?
In the time it took for this reply you could have chvt'd to terminal and ran init 4 and done this ;) On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM, JD Austin wrote: >> >> Try logging all the way out of X, switch to console view (control-alt-f1), >> clear out temp as root (rm -rf /tmp/*), then reboot. > > > What do you mean log out of X? Just log out of my user account, or reboot > into another run level? > > Mark >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Mark Phillips >> wrote: >>> >>> Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application >>> did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the >>> reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. >>> >>> GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Thanks and best regards, Ryan Rix OnBoard-NG --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: What laptop to get to replace my 15" macbook?
Trent Shipley wrote: > Josef Lowder wrote: > >> 7. Most of the *nix command-line commands and utilities that I am used >> to using do not seem to work on Mac OS-X > > I have the impression that it is possible to put an X-Windowing system > and the *nix collection of utilities on OS-X and run all the goodies > natively. Is this possible? What keywords would you use to look for a > How-To? or if you are more comfortable with apt http://finkproject.org/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: What laptop to get to replace my 15" macbook?
Trent Shipley wrote: > Josef Lowder wrote: > >> 7. Most of the *nix command-line commands and utilities that I am used >> to using do not seem to work on Mac OS-X > > I have the impression that it is possible to put an X-Windowing system > and the *nix collection of utilities on OS-X and run all the goodies > natively. Is this possible? What keywords would you use to look for a > How-To? http://www.macports.org/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Best way to remove gnome?
apt does wildcards. apt-get remove gnome* apt-get install kde done. :) (sent from stupid feature phone, pardon the failness) On 8/18/09, Mark Phillips wrote: > gnome is a meta package. It does not remove dependencies. > Mark > --Original Message-- > From: Jason Spatafore > Sender: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To: Phoenix Linux Users > ReplyTo: Phoenix Linux Users > Subject: Re: Best way to remove gnome? > Sent: Aug 18, 2009 8:50 PM > > apt-get remove gnome ?? > > > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:21 -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: >> Since I can't get gnome to work with my existing user directories, >> what is the best way to remove all of gnome and then reinstall it on >> Debian squeeze? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Thanks and best regards, Ryan Rix OnBoard-NG --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic" Alpha4 and the Intel video drivers...
Michael Butash wrote: > I guess I'm lame in assuming or expecting that if they're going to offer > an upgrade function, that it work. Microsoft has punished people for 25 > years thinking such heretical thoughts even trying to use their > *upgrades* between os's, but it's nice to dream that one day it might > just be reality with some os. Ubuntu has been about as close as I've > found, though FreeBSD used to be really good about dist-upgrades too > when it was my choice in server os. > > -mb Here's a thought; Why do distros even need 'releases' at all? If a constant update cycle was used, rather than one huge dist-upgrade, these problems would hardly ever arise... And when they did, it would be with one or two components, hopefully NOT mission critical, and could be fixed with five minutes of hunting and updating an /etc config file. installer ISOs could be generated weekly or so, or just be netinst images I guess Distrowatch would be out of business in that case. Upgrades suck, I reinstall ;) Ryan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic" Alpha4 and the Intel video drivers...
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Jim March<1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > Folks, > > I have a laptop with the mediocre Intel 965/X3100 chipset. In Ubuntu > Jaunty it ran like a turd until major tweaks were applied, and the > results weren't 100% stable. Jaunty came out right as the Intel video > support was in flux and Jaunty basically caught about half of what was > needed between the kernel, xorg, Intel driver, Mesa and Compiz. > > Karmic has the whole package. I've been running it for five days now, > ever since alpha4 came out, and it's more solid (and FASTER) than I > ever got out of Jaunty. I did a full re-install with the alternate > installer (as I use whole disk encryption) and I went with Ext4 - it's > working great. > > On a lark I loaded the 64bit Adobe Flash "alpha" and it's rock solid > too - best flash Linux experience I've ever had, period, end of > discussion. > > I think Karmic is going to be a really sweet Ubuntu flavor when it > ships and the improvements in Intel video support are so amazingly > vast I'd say anybody with at least moderate technical chops able to > cope with minor pre-release glitches should switch NOW. I'm told the > fixes also apply perfectly to the Intel 4500 chipset found on the > newest el cheapo laptops. > > WARNING: this applies to all Intel video drivers except the GMA500 > chipset. That thing is a major turd and will remain so until the > Ubuntu distro post-Karmic at a minimum. The most common GMA500 > machine is the Dell "mini 10" I think it's called, and for some reason > that thing is an excellent Hackintosh candidate. While I'm not > normally a proponent of running Apple OSX on non-Apple hardware (as > Apple is actively trying to stomp your install with updates!), the > difference in support for the GMA500 between Linux generally and OSX > is severe enough I'd consider it, at least until Intel helps get the > driver situation under control. (The issue is, Intel recently bought > the GMA500 tech from another company that was very > Linux-hostile...Intel is getting it sorted out but it's just not done > yet. That company did do some OSX drivers for Apple...) Fedora never had these problems :) *ducks* -- Thanks and best regards, Ryan Rix OnBoard-NG --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
