Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Napster working?

[Michael Herger]

> It doesn't help at mysqueezebox.com though.

Did you try it and it didn't help, or didn't you find the options? It's in a 
slightly different place (Player settings).

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WiMp in Denmark

[Michael Herger]

> It is now possible to get WiMp as a music service in Denmark, but
> when/how will I be able to use it on my Squeezeboxes?

No, unfortunately we're not allowed yet to make WiMP available on the SB. 
Please ask WiMP about it. We'll enable it as soon as they allow us to do so. 
The code is waiting to be used...

> My account on mysqueezebox.com is set to be in Norway to get access to
> the WiMp plugin

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

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gharris999;594340 Wrote: 
> A bigger problem, as I see it, involves updating the plugin.  I'm not
> sure exactly what happens when SBS tries to update the plugin while the
> "old" sleep-inhibit is executing.  I'm going to have to figure out an
> approach for this one.
Actually, I should probably just try doing a system call to killall any
gsession-inhibit or sleep-inhibit processes when the plugin's
shutdownPlugin() function gets called.  That ought to do the trick. 
Now..can that be accomplished by the squeezeboxserver user on linux
without yet another addition to /etc/sudoers?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

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mrw;594326 Wrote: 
> @gharris999
> 
> A thought occurs to me:
> Should sleep_inhibit register for the "system will now sleep" call-back
> and shut itself off on that event as well as timer expiry ? 
> I'm not sure how the timer survives system sleep, and there might be
> unexpected results if sleep_inhibit is still running when the system
> next wakes.Presumably, the system won't sleep while the timer is waiting 
> since the
'NoSleep' assertion isn't released until after the timer has fired. 
But what you suggest would be a fail-safe.  The only unexpected result
if the timer never did fire would be an 'orphaned' instance of
sleep-inhibit idling in the background that would have to be manually
killed.  No biggie, as far as I can anticipate.  It's not like it would
be chewing up memory or CPU cycles.

mrw;594326 Wrote: 
> As a longer term project it might even undertake the "on sleep" task
> that SleepWatcher is currently doing for you...It's hard for me to imagine 
> being able to improve on SleepWatcher.  Even
if I were to extend it by adding sockets processing code so that the
daemon could communicate with SBS via the CLI, it hardly seems like it
would be worth the effort.  I don't imagine that the results would be
any better than what can be accomplished with scripts.

I think it would be useful, however, to include a setup script with
SrvrPowerCtrl that would configure SleepWatcher to make the
srvrpowerctrl setwakealarm request on sleep.  Making that easy to set
up will be the only way that this feature will ever get used by more
than 1 or 2 people.

mrw;594326 Wrote: 
> I'm not sufficiently familiar with SrvrPowerCtrl [1]. My off the cuff
> thought would be to go with two separate plug-ins and keep the
> functionality and coding split. Presumably the plug-ins could talk to
> each other if some small communication were to be useful ?
Plugins can easily communicate with each other via the $client->request
mechanism or by calling Slim::Control::Request::executeRequest() which
is the same thing.  It's basically intra-SBS CLI.

mrw;594326 Wrote: 
> I do use it to reboot my Plug computer from time to time. I am planning
> to see if I can get it to initiate a few other system admin 
> tasks.SrvrPowerCtrl's EOD function needs will probably fill your needs.  EOD
needs one final tweak in it's functioning, I think.  It ought to be
such that, if the EOD idle-timeout is set to 0 and if a custom script
is set as the EOD action, and if the custom script, among other chores,
reboots the system, SrvrPowerCtrl ought to be smart upon on reboot to
execute the selected combo-box action as a "secondary" action. 
So...your custom script does lots of chores and ends by rebooting the
system.  SrvrPowerCtrl, when it finishes initializing, realizes that
it's still in the EOD period and when thus immediately suspends the
system, or whatever action is selected in the combobox.

SrvrPowerCtrl already treats the EOD action as an alarm and schedules a
system-wakeup if the EOD action is a custom script.

As it stands, EOD mostly works this way...except it doesn't currently
take that "secondary" action.  It's just smart enough to know that it
shouldn't endlessly repeat the custom script upon reboot. But until I
code that final last tweak, set the EOD period from, say 2:00 am to
2:05 am, set the idle time-out to 0 and set the action to your own
custom script.  Remember, you'll probably need to give the
squeezeboxserver user passwordless permissions to run the script in
/etc/sudoers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

[mrw]

@gharris999

A thought occurs to me:
Should sleep_inhibit register for the "system will now sleep" call-back
and shut itself off on that event as well as timer expiry ? 
I'm not sure how the timer survives system sleep, and there might be
unexpected results if sleep_inhibit is still running when the system
next wakes.

As a longer term project it might even undertake the "on sleep" task
that SleepWatcher is currently doing for you...

I'm not sufficiently familiar with SrvrPowerCtrl [1]. My off the cuff
thought would be to go with two separate plug-ins and keep the
functionality and coding split.
Presumably the plug-ins could talk to each other if some small
communication were to be useful ?


[1] I do use it to reboot my Plug computer from time to time. I am
planning to see if I can get it to initiate a few other system admin
tasks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

[gharris999]

danco;594316 Wrote: 
> I've just tried ReallyPreventStandby on my Core 2 Duo iMac, and it seems
> to be working fine.
> 
> I've only done a limited amount of checking, but I have listened to an
> hour of BBC iPlayer without my machine going to standby, and with the
> display sleeping. Further, the computer did go to sleep after the time
> set in EnergySaver once the Squeezebox was put into standby, I wasn't
> entirely sure if the latter would work as, because of some oddities in
> the way EnergySaver works on my machine, I use a third party utility to
> force sleep.
I was also just pleasantly surprised by my mac-mini waking up for a
mid-afternoon test alarm I had set.  The player was squeezeplay, the
mac-mini had been put to sleep by EnergySaver, SleepWatcher had caught
the sleep request and the OnSleep script had CLIed SrvrPowerCtrl to
schedule the next wakeup.  It all came off without a hitch.

I guess one question is this:  

If one is using ReallyPreventStandby, it only makes sense to disable
SrvrPowerCtrl's idle monitoring. I.e. EnergySaver keeps it's role as
the primary system power manager and SrvrPowerCtrl doesn't attempt to
fill those shoes. The other SrvrPowerCtrl functions, e.g. pushing and
pulling players from mysqueezebox.com, scheduling machine wakeups for
alarms, forcing sleep or shutdowns or reboots from the webUI or from
Jive, etc...all that stuff still remains useful.  So, the question is:
should I bloat up ReallyPreventStandby will all the same functions
found in SrvrPowerCtrl so users in this scenario only have to use one
plugin?  Or is it enough to yank the now redundant "not-idle" code from
SrvrPowerCtrl and assume that folks will want to run both plugins?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Napster working?

[asdti]

There's a thread on this in the Logitech forum, and another one on the
mysqueezebox.com forum here. the consensus seems to be overload at
Napster. A workround for squeezebox server is to increase the timeout
setting. I tried 15 (and then 30 secs) which has helped a lot. Default
timeout is 5 seconds, and I noticed that even the native napster web
app takes more than 5 seconds a lot of the time.

It doesn't help at mysqueezebox.com though.

If anyone needs help on locating the timwout setting, then hit reply.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

[eg1l]

I cannot get spotify to start. I'm currently running Ubuntu 10.10
64-bit. It worked with 10.04 and the previous version of the plugin. 

This is what i get when squeezeboxserver is started:

[10-12-12 23:39:29.7299] main::init (323) Starting Squeezebox Server
(v7.5.1, r30836, Tue Jun  1 05:57:28 PDT 2010) perl 5.010001
[10-12-12 23:39:39.9960] Slim::Utils::PluginManager::load (330)
Warning: Couldn't call Plugins::Spotify::Plugin->initPlugin:
/usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver: exec failed: No such file or directory
at
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Spotify/Spotifyd.pm
line 39

The only thing I can tell is that /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver does
exist.

I tried to install via apt-get and also download squeezeboxserver deb
package, however I cannot get the plugin to start. If i manually try to
start the plugin in
"/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Spotify/Bin/i386-linux"
i get "-bash: ./spotifyd: No such file or directory".

I have also tried to create a symlink to the flac lib.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

[danco]

I've just tried ReallyPreventStandby on my Core 2 Duo iMac, and it seems
to be working fine.

I've only done a limited amount of checking, but I have listened to an
hour of BBC iPlayer without my machine going to standby, and with the
display sleeping. Further, the computer did go to sleep after the time
set in EnergySaver once the Squeezebox was put into standby, I wasn't
entirely sure if the latter would work as, because of some oddities in
the way EnergySaver works on my machine, I use a third party utility to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

[pippin]

Let me guess: you also configured receiver with Net::UDAP?
It's a known issue that the receiver doesn't reconnect in some
configuration when it loses the server.
I don't have a solution other than leaving WiFi on or wiring the
Receiver.
I'm just experiencing myself how much the SBs dislike changing WiFi
environments.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

[Squeezemenicely]

pippin;594251 Wrote: 
> 
> Do you shut down WiFi overnight or something?
> 
yes my wifi shuts down over night.
in the webinterface of my router it still is visible the next morning,
but not on the servers webinterface.

so, is the wifi switchoff over night the problem?
How can I go about it? I still want to shutoff wifi and would like to
use my receiver the normal way - being able to switch it off over night
- without having to physically disconnect it from the power.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

[mrw]

gharris999;594254 Wrote: 
> Thanks for that.  Because this was my *first ever* compiled OSX
> binary...well, I only had a vague idea of what I was doing.
Don't be fooled into thinking that I have much more of a clue.
> I believe that you are right that sleep-inhibit will only work on
> Leopard or newer.
When I looked 2/3 years ago in the context of 10.4 I recall learning
that the (UpdateSystemActivity ?) api would not allow granularity
between system sleep & display sleep. I can't pin-point the reference.
That's when I learned about the IOPM hook, and discovered that
SleepWatcher had done it for me.
> I would, however, like to try my hand at compiling a universal binary. 
> Would you be willing to post your changed version of the source?
No changes to source required, XCode handles it through the build
settings. In fact I probably ended up with a Universal binary by
mistake !
Project/Edit project settings is the place to go. Mine currently looks
like:
Architecture  Standard 32-bit Universal
Base SDK   Mac OSX 10.5
Build Active Architecture Only   - No tick (gives universal
binary)

Can be set for all configurations, or individually -
release/debug/whatever... endless scope for inadvertent error.

Take a look at SDK Compatibility Guide - Configuring a Project for
SDK-Based Development.
I suspect that you do not need to build 32/64 bit universal unless Snow
Leopard requires it. (But recall my first comment).
There's probably a simpleton's guide, somewhere.
> Re: The 'default action in the face of no args' approach.  What do you
> think?  Is this a mistake?
I think it's a feature. My natural response was to expect some terminal
output when I provided no args to the tool.
If that's a common response then perhaps the "try to read the cookie
file" could be switch driven as well.


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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Thank you, Pippin, for bringing us Party Mode!

[GeeJay]

This is a shameless plug for iPeng.  

Despite an outcry from a fair number of folks, Logitech ceased
development of Party Mode after briefly toying with it in Beta release
several years ago.  Pippin just brought it back in the latest iPeng
release, and I must say that it thus far appears to work as it should. 
In fact, it's the first version to my knowledge that is compatible with
Dynamic Playlists, a serious drawback in the original.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!  I can once again allow guests access
to my SBs!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

[gharris999]

@mrw:

Thanks for that.  Because this was my *first ever* compiled OSX
binary...well, I only had a vague idea of what I was doing.

I believe that you are right that sleep-inhibit will only work on
Leopard or newer.  There is the UpdateSystemActivity() api that should
be able to be used with older version of OSX.  But I couldn't find any
real documentation for that.  The only arg I've seen used is:
UpdateSystemActivity(OverallAct).  Presumably, there are others so
that, for instance, system sleep could be inhibited while display sleep
is allowed.  But again, I can't seem to find the documentation.  I still
don't know my way around Xcode.

I would, however, like to try my hand at compiling a universal binary. 
Would you be willing to post your changed version of the source?

Re: The 'default action in the face of no args' approach.  What do you
think?  Is this a mistake?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

[pippin]

Does the server's web interface still show it?
Do you shut down WiFi overnight or something?
The "Power" you switch in iPeng just switches the audio outputs and
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP: newbie questions

[Phil Meyer]

>I found this happened with multi-valued id3 tags.  e.g. if you have several 
>ARTIST or GENRE tags, rather than use a separator character in a single tag 
>value, then it is likely that only the first artist/genre would be kept.
>
I take this back.  I just tried this again with id3v2.4 tags (previously I had 
used id3v2.3 tags), and it seemed to be okay with multiple artist tags.  I 
definitely noticed some tag loss in the past - possibly only with id3v2.3 tags?

I'll try with some other tags to get some more confidence before applying to 
everything though.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP: newbie questions

[Phil Meyer]

>Right click on the track in MIP after analysis and you will see the
>option to Archive the analysis to the file. It does add new tags to
>your files without changing any of the previous tags.
>
That's not my experience - I found that Archive Analysis sometimes lost content 
in tags.  It appears that it reads all of the tags in, adds its archive 
analysis/fingerprint tags, and then writes all of the tags back to the file.  
However, there are some tags that it can't read.  As it doesn't read them, it 
doesn't write them back again, and thus the data is lost.

I found this happened with multi-valued id3 tags.  e.g. if you have several 
ARTIST or GENRE tags, rather than use a separator character in a single tag 
value, then it is likely that only the first artist/genre would be kept.

Other tags that may be troublesome are things like the iTunes TCMP frame, which 
is a non-standard id3v2.3 tag that iTunes uses to indicate COMPILATION.  A lot 
of applications don't read this tag.

>You can make a copy of a few files and test if it is to your satisfaction 
>before you
>do it for your entire library.
Definitely a good idea.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

[Squeezemenicely]

pippin;594213 Wrote: 
> Do you physically unpower the receiver?

No, as I wrote I switch the receiver off via ipeng. I only have to
physically unplug the receiver to get it showing up on ipeng again,
since it does not work otherwise.

So the physical oart is only the remdy, I do not want to unplug the
receiver.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

[mrw]

gharris999;594173 Wrote: 
> mrw and other Mac users: If you would care to try the latest version of
> ReallyPreventStandby, I've got the OSX prevent sleep app working.  The
> app is:
> 
> ReallyPreventStandby/bin/mac/sleep-inhibit

That looks very neat. So I have to try it.

The ppc binary would not run on my 10.5 ppc system. So I recompiled
here and obtained a working  (universal) binary which does run. I'll
try it out.
I puzzled for a minute over the "cookie file" - I was assuming that
providing no arguments to the tool would provide a help missive, not a
default action.

It's worth remarking that this will never run on 10.4 or earlier
because the requisite system call only becomes available on 10.5.
(Apparently).
So the SleepWatcher approach may yet have legs for Tiger/Panther
systems.
I will run it on 10.4 to see what happens.

For reference, the error message:

dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: _fopen$UNIX2003
Referenced from:
/Users/martinwilliams/Desktop/ReallyPreventStandby/bin/mac/./sleep-inhibit.ppc
Expected in: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib

and the minimal changes that I made to get a working binary (XCode
3.14):

Changed Base SDK from Mac OSX 10.6 to Mac OSX 10.5 (project settings -
all configurations)
Changed the IOKit.framework to point at my system provided framework.
(Perhaps you installed an update ?)
Gave effect to a  __TIMESTAMP__ macro in main.c as follows:

Code:

#ifndef __TIMESTAMP__
  #define VERSION_TIMESTAMP __DATE__" "__TIME__"\x0"
  #else
  #define VERSION_TIMESTAMP __TIMESTAMP__
  #endif


In DispVersion - replaced __TIMESTAMP__ with VERSION_TIMESTAMP.
I don't know why I am not picking up a predeclared __TIMESTAMP__ macro,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Napster working?

[ericj]

Works, slowly on ipeng, but I get a 'failed to parse' message after some
time occasionally.   Other times I get the usual menus.   Seems quite
sluggish, perhaps overloaded servers?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

[pippin]

Do you physically unpower the receiver?


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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Search

[michael123]

1) I want to distinguish between 24bit and 16bit (e.g. high-res vs.
CD-quality)

2) I add to the title of an album its type (DAD), or (DVD-Audio),
(SACD) or (24bit), etc. All of these are 24bit files

3) While in 'Advanced Search':
a) Is it possible to scan title and populate 'Origin' type?
b) How can I use 'Sample Rate' & 'Sample Size' fields seen in 'Song
Info' ? 
Is it possible to add new fields here?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

[Squeezemenicely]

Hi,
I am using iPeng on my iPhone together with a SB receiver and the
server running on a Synology NAS.

I have the following problem: When I switch mx receiver off with ipeng
and want to use it again the next day, it does not switch on anymore.
Also it does not show up on ipeng. So I have to unplug it to get the
receiver recognized again.

I also have mysqueeze set up, but the receiver is actually always
connected to my discstation which runs all the time.

Any idea what is wrong? Hope I gave enough info.

the receiver is connected via wifi.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeIR Support Thread

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- Yes, I'd like to have IRoIP.
- No, I don't care.


The SqueezeIR repository has now 'officially' changed to
 as it
looks like Google had done something to their hosting services to stop
the old repo from working.  I just changed the repo in the SBS plugin
settings page and everythng continued to work as normal.

Some people have experienced problems in that SqueezeIR fails to show
on the Controller's Apllet Installer list after the repo has been
changed although I haven't had that problem.  Performing a factory
reset on the Controller seems to get round the problem (which is
probably due to a bug in the Applet Installer).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

[Triode]

markturnip;594200 Wrote: 
> Ah I see, thanks for warning me. I guess I won't do this then. 
> I assume this doesn't apply for MP3's stored on the cloud?

No mp3 stored in the cloud will be streamed without conversion.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

[markturnip]

Triode;594069 Wrote: 
> You probably don't want to do that if you mean that the server is in the
> cloud as it means that spotify stream will be decoded to a flac stream
> in the cloud and then sent to your players - this means you need 1M or
> more of bandwidth for the 320k streams.  I am also not sure it stays
> within the restrictions of the spotify license - please try this with a
> local server instead.


Ah I see, thanks for warning me. I guess I won't do this then. 
I assume this doesn't apply for MP3's stored on the cloud?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

[Lord Arse]

Been using this for a while now.  Fantastic piece of coding.  Also,
combined with Squeeze Commander on my Android, I can control Spotify
over my sound system with my phone!

Here's my q...

Starting to run out of space on my 2TB hard drive - full of lossless
music and 720P movies - so was looking at getting a NAS to ease the
burden.

The Synology DiskStation DS410 seems to be a great place to start.  Do
you know if this plugin will work on this particular NAS?


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[SlimDevices: Plugins] WiMp in Denmark

[Mad-s]

Hi guys

It is now possible to get WiMp as a music service in Denmark, but
when/how will I be able to use it on my Squeezeboxes? 

I am running on 7.5.2 witch supports the WiMp plugin, but when I try to
enter my phone number and password for my account it says ''Invalid
phone number or password''.

Is it because I only can use a Norwegian phone number in WiMp for
Squeezebox?

My account on mysqueezebox.com is set to be in Norway to get access to
the WiMp plugin

I can use the iPhone app and the player on my Mac with my Danish
account without any issues.

Regards

Mads


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] MusicInfoSCR 4.3 - now with theOriginal Boom Booklet Layout

[wonder boy]

I love this plugin but am struggling at the moment. For some reason the
x_y isn't showing any numbers until I go into settings each time I
start sbs and try and play music. It the displays track of tracks no
problem all day without fault.

All other info works fine just the x_y bit, any thoughts? Using v 4.47


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeIR Support Thread

[hcanning]

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- Yes, I'd like to have IRoIP.
- No, I don't care.


I'm running a Windows server.  Tried changing the permissions to no
avail


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeIR Support Thread

[Pokersut]

A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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- Yes, I'd like to have IRoIP.
- No, I don't care.


hcanning;594180 Wrote: 
> I'm having the same problem... 'official' repo XML URL didn't work,
> temporary one was accepted, but it won't show up as an applet on the
> controller!

I solved my problem by doing a factory reset of the Controller. Also, I
had forgot to set the right permissions on the SqueezeIR folder in
Squeezebox Server (see one of my earlier posts in this thread).

I think you should mention the CHMOD/permission thing in your
installation notes, indifference_engine - otherwise I will keep
forgetting it every time I have to reinstall ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeIR Support Thread

[hcanning]

A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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- Yes, I'd like to have IRoIP.
- No, I don't care.


Pokersut;593849 Wrote: 
> That got rid of the error message in SBS - but SqueezeIR is still not
> showing on the list of applets on my Controller ... :-(
> 
> 

I'm having the same problem :-(... 'official' repo XML URL didn't work,
temporary one was accepted, but it won't show up as an applet on the
controller!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

[gharris999]

mrw and other Mac users: If you would care to try the latest version of
ReallyPreventStandby, I've got the OSX prevent sleep app working.  The
app is:

ReallyPreventStandby/bin/mac/sleep-inhibit

There are binaries for i386, x86_64 and ppc.  On my mac-mini running
snow leopard, the 32bit i386 version works fine.

The app will prevent system standby/sleep while allowing display sleep.
In this way, it is a little better for our purposes than either
caffeine or jiggler.  You can use the "--display" arg or the --type d
args to keep the display from sleeping too.

If you've already got a version of ReallyPreventStandby installed,
you'll need to reset the settings to the new defaults.  At the bottom
of the settings page, there is a link that will do this.

Full C source code to the app is included in the plugin.


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