Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Smart Mix plugin

2015-03-09 Thread Michael Herger

So, why is it, that if I let SmartMix search for tracks, then grab the
track and throw it at the Qobuz Plugin search engine I get useful
results, and when the SmartMix Plugin does it it fails???


Because you know what you are looking for, even if it is not in the 
exact fields the software is expecting the data to be. You know a 
composer's work even if the composer isn't in the artist field. The 
software isn't that smart. It checks the title, and it checks the 
artist. If they match: well done. If not? What should it do?


There's a reason why "artificial intelligence" still is the future.


To query the Qobuz Search Api, I'd just throw it a line of text (like
the aformentioned "Maurice Ravel La Valse"), but the Plugin seems to
split up the query into several parts ("artist" "name" "performer" etc.)


I explained that to you before. I can't do that because it often throws 
up rubbish. Eg. stuff like "Sledgehammer (karaoke version as known by 
Peter Gabriel)". Do you really think that's what you want to get when 
searching for Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer? I prefer not to get anything 
(because his catalog is not available online :-() Trust me when I say 
that I've spent hours and days trying to find an algorithm which does 
this job decently, without mixing in too much crap.


As you can use the API without any software development involved, feel 
free to play around with titles and artists as you like. SmartMix needs 
to get a track ID. Try to find an algorithm (or flow) which does work 
not only for your classical taste, but for popular searches, too. Create 
some random mix using SmartMix and one of the supported services. Write 
down the _exact_ title and artist names, and use them for the 
evaluation. Draw a flow chart and send it to me. I'll be happy to give 
it a try. But please verify it with dozens of tracks.



if I'm reading it correctly. I'd like to know what the Qobuz Plugin
sends to the API in order to get the "Track" result and try to duplicate
that for the SmartMix thingy. Will search throught the repo now...


Enable debugging for the Qobuz plugin. I think it's logging all API calls.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-03-09 Thread Michael Herger

I'm not sure why the transcoding framework would be involved, though.
 From the looks of it, seeking has directly been disabled from Qobuz
plugin's ProtocolHandler.pm.


It's not really involved, in that flac can be streamed directly to the 
player. But the transcoding helper would still need to read the 
configuration to figure this fact out. Plus even when streaming 
directly, there are certain details defined in the convert.conf.



 From their source code, it looks like the Pandora and Rhapsody plugins
would support seeks in regular streams (i.e. not radio stations).


I would say so, yes. But they're not streaming flac.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

Anybody else noticed that the LA lists are not up-to-date - eg. BBC 6
Music shows Today - Monday - etc. while BBC 4 just shows Monday -
Sunday.  Similar for other channels.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread monarca

mick_w wrote: 
> expectingtofly
> 
> Thanks for the quick fix - Listen Again fully restored and working again
> - hopefully it will buy us some time.
> 
> Again thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

Updated the Lua file in Post #1 to cope with latest BBC change.

It seems to work and can play Listen Again RTMP files - while BBc still
puts them up.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
> I was planning to do an update over the weekend - good thing I didn't.
> I'll try to get around to it tomorrow.
> However I created a replacement Lua file to support listen Again for
> Radio/Touch users (they missed out on the Jan Mtis 5 change) but that
> now needs to be updated after just 12hrs.
> 
> All these changes just to stand still. Time is what is needed.

Just want to say thanks to you and others for your dedication and work
in all this.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

bpa wrote: 
> I was planning to do an update over the weekend - good thing I didn't.
> I'll try to get around to it tomorrow.
> However I created a replacement Lua file to support listen Again for
> Radio/Touch users (they missed out on the Jan Mtis 5 change) but that
> now needs to be updated after just 12hrs.
> 
> All these changes just to stand still. Time is what is needed.

Indeed it is a never ending task keeping up with the BBC's pointless
changes.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

Owen Smith wrote: 
> All this discussion of editing files is fine for some people. But it is
> beyond the majority of users. An updated version of the plugin is
> required.
I was planning to do an update over the weekend - good thing I didn't.
I'll try to get around to it tomorrow.
However I created a replacement Lua file to support listen Again for
Radio/Touch users (they missed out on the Jan Mtis 5 change) but that
now needs to be updated after just 12hrs.

All these changes just to stand still. Time is what is needed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

All this discussion of editing files is fine for some people. But it is
beyond the majority of users. An updated version of the plugin is
required.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread nitram

...and the fix works!  Fantastic, and many thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread nitram

JohnB wrote: 
> If you have already copied over bonze's replacement menu.opml file you
> should find the BBCXMLParser.pm file in the same folder (at least that
> is where it is on Windows 7). You can find the location of the Cache
> folder by looking in LMS/Settings/Information and then (at least on W7)
> the location is  ...Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCiPlayer/.
> 
> Make sure you make a backup copy of the file before you edit it - just
> in case!

Oops, sorry for the repeat post: this thread is moving so fast I didn't
see my own post!

Thanks, I've found the file!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread nitram

Where is the BBCXMLParser.pm file (on a Mac)?  And where is the
BBCiplayer plugin file?

thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

expectingtofly wrote: 
> ..
> That gets you the RTMP streams.
> For the HLS streams there is a slightly different hack.  But we really
> ought to do this properly
Thanks very much indeed. Works perfectly. We are very fortunate in
having skilled people such as yourself around to keep our show on the
road.

To do things properly we need some stability from the Beeb.  This
currently seems to be in, how can I put this, 'short supply'?  We also
need to establish a line of communication with them, and it isn't clear
that they would be willing to do so.

If anyone does get completely stuck, or we can't disentangle yet more of
the Beeb's future unannounced changes, the vlc method I proposed in
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)&p=811006&viewfull=1#post811006
should work providing you have a pc/mac that still supports the streams.
I know it's horrible, but needs must.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread JohnB

nitram wrote: 
> BBCXMLParser.pm
> 
> Where is this file (on a Mac)?  And is it this I modify, rather than the
> BBCiplayer plugin - which I cannot find, so maybe it's the same file??
> 
> Thanks in advance...

If you have already copied over bonze's replacement menu.opml file you
should find the BBCXMLParser.pm file in the same folder (at least that
is where it is on Windows 7). You can find the location of the Cache
folder by looking in LMS/Settings/Information and then (at least on W7)
the location is  ...Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCiPlayer/.

Make sure you make a backup copy of the file before you edit it - just
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

expectingtofly wrote: 
> Sorry about the lack of clarity.
> 
> A few days ago I reported on a hack I had done to the Iplayer applet out
> of curiosity to prove that we will be able to access the Listen Again
> HLS streams.   This was useful knowledge as we expect the RTMP streams
> to disappear at some point.  Some people have kept that hack out of
> preference, however it is not something you need to do, or is
> particularly advisable.   In the above post I was describing to Castalla
> the fix required to keep the HLS access after the recent BBC breaking
> change.
> 
> To restore the (normal) RTMP streams you need to perform the fix
> described here :
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-%28UK-only%29&p=810999&viewfull=1#post810999

I reverted to the original rtmp files!  Couldn't find where to edit the
hls modified file!

Expect the Audio Factory clowns will break it all again soon!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread nitram

BBCXMLParser.pm

Where is this file (on a Mac)?  And is it this I modify, rather than the
BBCiplayer plugin - which I cannot find, so maybe it's the same file??

Thanks in advance...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread expectingtofly

slartibartfast wrote: 
> Sorry, I think I am losing track of all the new developments. Which
> previous post are you referring to? Thanks.

Sorry about the lack of clarity.

A few days ago I reported on a hack I had done to the Iplayer applet out
of curiosity to prove that we will be able to access the Listen Again
HLS streams.   This was useful knowledge as we expect the RTMP streams
to disappear at some point.  Some people have kept that hack out of
preference, however it is not something you need to do, or is
particularly advisable.   In the above post I was describing to Castalla
the fix required to keep the HLS access after the recent BBC breaking
change.

To restore the (normal) RTMP streams you need to perform the fix
described here :
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-%28UK-only%29&p=810999&viewfull=1#post810999



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread JohnB

TheLastMan wrote: 
> Make the edits, save the file and restart LMS.
> Writing this post has taken me longer!
> 
> :)

Always, always, always make a backup copy of any file are going to edit!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread slartibartfast

expectingtofly wrote: 
> Sure,
> Just do this :
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > $entry->{'url'} =~ s/redir/select/ig;
  > 

> > 
> 
> and leave out this bit :
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > 
  > my $_find = "audio-syndication/proto/http";
  > my $_replace = "pc";
  > $_find = quotemeta $_find;
  > $entry->{'url'} =~ s/$_find/$_replace/g;
  > 

> > 
> 
> 
> EDIT :
> Sorry, for the benefit of others, I should have mentioned for the hls
> streams to play you need to make further changes to another file
> (described in a previous post)
Sorry, I think I am losing track of all the new developments. Which
previous post are you referring to? Thanks.





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread JohnB

Thank you for the  RTMP hack - great news.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread StephenC

expectingtofly wrote: 
> Sure,
> Just do this :
> 

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread TheLastMan

expectingtofly wrote: 
> Yes, in BBCXMLParser.pm
> 
> Remove :
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > if ($entry->{'url'} =~ 
/http:\/\/www\.live\.bbc\.co\.uk\/mediaselector\/4\/mtis\/stream\/(.*)/) {
  > $entry->{'url'} = 
"http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/$1";;
  > }
  > 

> > 
> 
> Replace with :
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > 
  > $entry->{'url'} =~ s/redir/select/ig;
  > 
  > my $_find = "audio-syndication/proto/http";
  > my $_replace = "pc";
  > $_find = quotemeta $_find;
  > $entry->{'url'} =~ s/$_find/$_replace/g;
  > 
  > 
  > 

> > 
> 
> That gets you the RTMP streams.
> For the HLS streams there is a slightly different hack.  But we really
> ought to do this properly
Brilliant!  Thanks mate, you've made my day.  As an addict of R4, R4E,
R3, R5L and R6M the Squeezebox BBC iPlayer plugin Listen Again streams
changed my life.  I was beginning to worry that it was all over. 
Hopefully one day somebody will make a version of the plugin that does
not need to be hacked.  Not interested in going the HLS route just yet
as the RTMP streams work fine.

A bit of extra info for those running LMS on a Raspberry Pi using
Max2play (Squeezeplug), but accessing from a Windows PC, have a look at
'WinSCP' (http://winscp.net/eng/index.php).  I did not know where LMS
and its plugins were saved on the Pi, but WinSCP has a simple search
function that scanned the entire Pi in seconds to find the file. It also
allowed me to edit it using a simple GUI text editor using cut and
paste.

The BBCXMLParser.pm file is located in this folder
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCiPlayer
Make the edits, save the file and restart LMS.
Writing this post has taken me longer!

:)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread florca

expectingtofly wrote: 
> Yes, in BBCXMLParser.pm
> 
> >>> CODE <<<
> 
> That gets you the RTMP streams.
> 

Working perfectly - massive thanks!

Phil



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

expectingtofly wrote: 
> The BBC have changed the XML that supplies the meta data for the listen
> again streams.
> 
> This has broken this plugin.
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > 
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/b054pj65/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http
  > 

> > 
> 
> This breaks the Iplayer app in 2 ways
> 
> 1. It only supplies the HLS streams
> 2. the "redir" part means it supplies it supplies it as a redirect
> (for browsers) not as direct response
> 
> Coincidentally (or not) this is the format that Pure uses on its "the
> lounge" website.  (Read into that what you will)
> 
> Anyway, the RTMP streams still work and you can hack the app to make
> it work again quite easily.  However, it needs somebody to actually
> create a properly maintained version, as it is actually broken now.

Does this mean your HLS 'fix' can't be fixed?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

Just had a confirmation from a Pure user that LA is working on his
radio.

I smell a degree of collusion  but then I'm also paranoid.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread expectingtofly

castalla wrote: 
> Any chance we could get the HLS hack - I don't fancy having to go back
> and restore rtmp from hls?

Sure,
Just do this :

Code:


  $entry->{'url'} =~ s/redir/select/ig;
  



and leave out this bit :

Code:


  
  my $_find = "audio-syndication/proto/http";
  my $_replace = "pc";
  $_find = quotemeta $_find;
  $entry->{'url'} =~ s/$_find/$_replace/g;
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

One of my solutions to get the sound back on my lounge hifi is to play
the stream from the BBC website on my wireless laptop.  I then monitor
the output and use vlc to stream that (wirelessly again) to a favourite
stored on LMS and then play that on my hifi.  It's a bit of a palava,
and trying it tonight needed a further strange hack.  I used to be able
to play the stream to a linux 'null' device and monitor that.  Tonight
that didn't work for the BBC stream, so I resorted to an old faithful
that even the BBC cannot stop.  Play the sound on my laptop audio,
monitor that, and plug a headphone adaptor into the headphone socket to
switch the sound off on the laptop.

Of course the BBC will claim that they know how I am using their stream
- firefox on a laptop.  Not quite the whole story.

I don't know what quality the source stream is using this method, but
I'll find out somehow.

Gr.

To anyone wishing to try something so daft, the vlc command I am
currently using is:

Code:


  cvlc pulse://null.monitor 
:sout='#transcode{vcodec=none,acodec=mp3,ab=320,channels=2,samplerate=44100}:http{dst=:8081/laptop.mp3}'
 :no-sout-rtp-sap :no-sout-standard-sap
  


I'm aware this isn't quite as good as it could be, but it is working.

And my favourite is:

Code:


  http://w.x.y.z:8081/laptop.mp3
  


where w.x.y.z is the IP address of my laptop.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

expectingtofly wrote: 
> Yes, in BBCXMLParser.pm
> 
> Remove :
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > if ($entry->{'url'} =~ 
/http:\/\/www\.live\.bbc\.co\.uk\/mediaselector\/4\/mtis\/stream\/(.*)/) {
  > $entry->{'url'} = 
"http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/$1";;
  > }
  > 

> > 
> 
> Replace with :
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > 
  > $entry->{'url'} =~ s/redir/select/ig;
  > 
  > my $_find = "audio-syndication/proto/http";
  > my $_replace = "pc";
  > $_find = quotemeta $_find;
  > $entry->{'url'} =~ s/$_find/$_replace/g;
  > 
  > 
  > 

> > 
> 
> That gets you the RTMP streams.
> For the HLS streams there is a slightly different hack.  But we really
> ought to do this properly

Any chance we could get the HLS hack - I don't fancy having to go back
and restore rtmp from hls?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread mrw

expectingtofly wrote: 
> The BBC have changed the XML that supplies the meta data for the listen
> again streams.
> 
> This has broken this plugin.
> 

> 
> 
> Anyway, the RTMP streams still work and you can hack the app to make it
> work again quite easily.  However, it needs somebody to actually create
> a properly maintained version, as it is actually broken now.

For those who can 'hack the app', here's a patch file that's working for
me. 

Code:


  cd 'to the Plugins directory, wherein lies the BBCiPlayer directory'
  patch -p0 http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17575|
+---+


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread mick_w

expectingtofly

Thanks for the quick fix - Listen Again fully restored and working again
- hopefully it will buy us some time.

Again thanks!



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Playing WMA Lossless files on OSX Squeezebox 7.7.5

2015-03-09 Thread JPatten

interested to know if WMA Lossless files can be played on an OSX
installation of LMS v 7.7.5? I saw some posts from 2009 which mention
using mplayer which I have installed. This seems to be fine for WMA
streaming but not for local files. I can convert to FLAC using
DBpoweramp on a Windows PC but end up loosing album artwork on the way.
Any guidance on how it might be done (if possible) would be appreciated.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

Owen Smith wrote: 
> Don't want something with a large display that sticks up, don't need
> anything that complicated. I use a Receiver at present, this is ideal
> for my needs in every way except it doesn't do 24/96. I was hoping the
> John Swenson project would provide a replacement for it, but JackOfAll
> metaphorically coshed that on the back of the head. And Triode last
> posted that day or a day later. Coincidence? You decide.
squeeze2upnp might solve your problem. It isn't zero effort to get it
going, but it does work.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread expectingtofly

majones wrote: 
> Do you have the hack? Worth a try to keep the wheels on?

Yes, in BBCXMLParser.pm

Remove :


Code:


  if ($entry->{'url'} =~ 
/http:\/\/www\.live\.bbc\.co\.uk\/mediaselector\/4\/mtis\/stream\/(.*)/) {
  $entry->{'url'} = 
"http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/$1";;
  }
  



Replace with :

Code:


  
  $entry->{'url'} =~ s/redir/select/ig;
  
  my $_find = "audio-syndication/proto/http";
  my $_replace = "pc";
  $_find = quotemeta $_find;
  $entry->{'url'} =~ s/$_find/$_replace/g;
  
  
  



That gets you the RTMP streams.
For the HLS streams there is a slightly different hack.  But we really
ought to do this properly



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Smart Mix plugin

2015-03-09 Thread CommanderROR

Sorry about the monologue...

I'm cross with myself, because I can't figure this out on my own.

So, why is it, that if I let SmartMix search for tracks, then grab the
track and throw it at the Qobuz Plugin search engine I get useful
results, and when the SmartMix Plugin does it it fails??? 
I just don't see where it goes wrong. I'm currently trying to understand
the SmartMix.pm in the Qobuz Plugin folder, but since I have no prior
experience I'm pretty confused.

To query the Qobuz Search Api, I'd just throw it a line of text (like
the aformentioned "Maurice Ravel La Valse"), but the Plugin seems to
split up the query into several parts ("artist" "name" "performer" etc.)
if I'm reading it correctly. I'd like to know what the Qobuz Plugin
sends to the API in order to get the "Track" result and try to duplicate
that for the SmartMix thingy. Will search throught the repo now...

It'll probably fail, but I might learn something useful.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

mick_w wrote: 
> Listen Again has stopped working this evening. Have they pulled the
> plug?
> 
> The HLS live streams are OK.

It need a look but I guess RTMP versions are gone and only HLS Listen
Again is online



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

StephenC wrote: 
> Is the situation completely without hope? Is it the case that the feeds
> needed won't be available to Squeezebox users? Or is it the case that
> there are feeds, but the plugin needs to be changed? I'm not up to speed
> with the finer points of the technicalities. Has the BBC said that they
> won't allow Squeezeboxes to access the streams?

At the moment a probably quite simple update is needed to the iPlayer
plugin to restore the RTMP streams. It is unclear how long they will
last, but the easiest thing to do is use them while we have them as the
code exists.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

majones wrote: 
> Do you have the hack? Worth a try to keep the wheels on?

A proper updated plugin is required. Many people aren't up to hacking
the plugin. I count myself as borderline for those purposes. I know
several people at work who keep asking me how all this is going as they
rely on iPlayer Listen Again, and I keep telling them: "dreadfully,
Triode is absent, no-one else is stepping up as yet, lots of hacks,
nothing easy to use".



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

PasTim wrote: 
> As a matter of interest, what's wrong with a Touch?

Don't want something with a large display that sticks up, don't need
anything that complicate. I use a Receiver at present, this is ideal for
my needs in every way except it doesn't do 24/96. I was hoping the John
Swenson project would provide a replacement for it, but JackOfAll
metaphorically coshed that on the back of the head. And Triode last
posted that day or a day later. Coincidence? You decide.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

There is a piece of open source software the BBC don't like that still
works.  It also supplies Radio 3 (at least - I haven't tried others) in
320kbps AAC format.  I will listen and then delete the program, which I
believe is quite legal and above board.  

They are forcing me to do this.  I don't want to.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

PasTim wrote: 
> I do not have much faith in parliament or its MPs.  They can make a
> noise, but that's it.

Neither do I  but a well-placed parliamentary question can scare the
living daylights out of civil servants (I've experienced it!).

Failing that, we could ask Charlie Booker to do a Philemina Cunk
investigation - oh, I forgot he does TV only.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread StephenC

Is the situation completely without hope? Is it the case that the feeds
needed won't be available to Squeezebox users? Or is it the case that
there are feeds, but the plugin needs to be changed? I'm not up to speed
with the finer points of the technicalities. Has the BBC said that they
won't allow Squeezeboxes to access the streams?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread ModelCitizen

For what its worth I made a complaint too...  more a letting off of
steam though...

"I have 7 Logitech Squeezebox devices littered around the house. 90% of
my listening pleasure had been provided via the iPlayer WMA streams. The
BBC have ended these and have not provided a replacement that works with
these devices.  This is criminal, and the way the process has been
handled incompetent.

Along with many others i know find myself having to replace my
whole-house audio system. For me the cost will be around £4k.

To finance this I have decided to cease paying my BBC licence fee and so
today I terminated my direct debit.

Up until this debacle I was a staunch defender of the BBC, but not any
longer. You lot need a wakeup call. You are over-paid and complacent and
the organisation a dinosaur."


Simon Turner
Barcombe, Lewes



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread rmgalley

On Squeezebox Radio my HLS streams, via LMS, are still working. As
previously noted, using Triode's 'BBC iPlayer' plug-in, the 'Listen
Again' is returning a message 'Can't open file ...' but proceeds to
'play' a silent file. Looking at 'More Information' shows it has
defaulted to my lowest priority WMA format and has bypassed the AAC
formats, which are now also non-existent.

Trying BBC 'iPlayer Extras' also resulted in broken streams for the
first dozen or so I tried. However a few are still working. For example,
as of 21:30 GMT, I found: 'BBC iPlayer Extras/Radio 4 A-Z/H
programs/Happy Birthday, Neptune' played normally although it took a
long time to load. The file formal was confirmed as AAC 128kbps. Make
what you will of this. I suspect it will be only a matter of time before
the BBC breaks these to.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

castalla wrote: 
> Not necessarily - there are named MPs on the committee (and will be
> after the fiasco of an election in May!)
> 
> See:
> 
> http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/culture-media-and-sport-committee/contact-us/
> 
> http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/culture-media-and-sport-committee/membership2/
I do not have much faith in parliament or its MPs.  They can make a
noise, but that's it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

PasTim wrote: 
> & get a pro-forma reply from a drone :(

Not necessarily - there are named MPs on the committee (and will be
after the fiasco of an election in May!)

See:

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/culture-media-and-sport-committee/contact-us/

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/culture-media-and-sport-committee/membership2/



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

castalla wrote: 
> Appreciate your action, but it's futile.  You'll just get a pro-forma
> reply from a drone.
> 
> Write to the Chair of the Culture, Media and Sport Committee at
> Parliament.
& get a pro-forma reply from a drone :(



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Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  Minimserver (server) & upplay (control
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SharkPlay plugin - radioSHARK player

2015-03-09 Thread doubleugk

bpa wrote: 
> Can't see any reason why not ? ...

Thx for the quick answer, I just figured out that I'm already fine with
your WaveInput plugin. Perfect, because my preferred radio station
stopped streaming and now I had to get the terrestrial signal into my
LMS. 

It's always amazing what LMS with its individual plugins is able to
leverage - best multi what ever solution - ever ;-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

moletteuk wrote: 
> I've submitted my complaint to the BBC.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/
> 
> It's all a bit over my head, but I'm pretty upset about this, I use the
> iplayer plugin for at least an hour every day...well I did.
> 
> Anyway, I want to say thanks in advance and that I really appreciate the
> work that the technical people here do to keep my squeezeboxes working.
I suspect your complaint will get the same bland response some of us
have had before.  I also have tried again even though I know it is a
waste of time.  I have also sent emails to Mr Hall and Mr Scott, no
doubt with zero response.

My feelings about the license fee are, for the very first time,
changing.  A private company wouldn't get away with this sort of
unannounced change.  They'd get people to pay to stay compatible, but
wouldn't just drop them with no recourse.

My only solution now is to use my laptop to select the listen again feed
and play it to my null device, and stream that using vlc to squeezebox. 
A pain in the posterior, if I can get it to work at all.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

moletteuk wrote: 
> I've submitted my complaint to the BBC.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/
> 
> It's all a bit over my head, but I'm pretty upset about this, I use the
> iplayer plugin for at least an hour every day...well I did.
> 
> Anyway, I want to say thanks in advance and that I really appreciate the
> work that the technical people here do to keep my squeezeboxes working.

Appreciate your action, but it's futile.  You'll just get a pro-forma
reply from a drone.

Write to the Chair of the Culture, Media and Sport Committee at
Parliament.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread moletteuk

I've submitted my complaint to the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

It's all a bit over my head, but I'm pretty upset about this, I use the
iplayer plugin for at least an hour every day...well I did.

Anyway, I want to say thanks in advance and that I really appreciate the
work that the technical people here do to keep my squeezeboxes working.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Krisbee

It's the f***ers at the Beeb who should be neutered.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread ModelCitizen

This is dire. 2 radios, 1 touch, 1 boom, 1 receiver and an SB+ all
neutered by the f*# BBC. I've just cancelled my direct debit for the
licence fee.


Simon Turner
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

Owen Smith wrote: 
> Probably not by enough for me to buy a Transporter. All I want is
> something simple that plays 24/96, and a Touch isn't it.
As a matter of interest, what's wrong with a Touch?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

The RTMP streams now don't work on my Internet Radios (Marantz and MF),
and display a message saying the format was changed today.  How helpful.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread majones

expectingtofly wrote: 
> Anyway, the RTMP streams still work and you can hack the app to make it
> work again quite easily.  However, it needs somebody to actually create
> a properly maintained version, as it is actually broken now.
Do you have the hack? Worth a try to keep the wheels on?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread florca

expectingtofly wrote: 
> 
> 
> Anyway, the RTMP streams still work and you can hack the app to make it
> work again quite easily.  However, it needs somebody to actually create
> a properly maintained version, as it is actually broken now.

Any chance you can point to where to patch the plugin and how? Happy to
hack this until  Triode returns ...

Phil



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread expectingtofly

The BBC have changed the XML that supplies the meta data for the listen
again streams.

This has broken this plugin.


Code:


  
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/b054pj65/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http
  



This breaks the Iplayer app in 2 ways

1. It only supplies the HLS streams
2. the "redir" part means it supplies it supplies it as a redirect (for
browsers) not as direct response

Coincidentally (or not) this is the format that Pure uses on its "the
lounge" website.  (Read into that what you will)

Anyway, the RTMP streams still work and you can hack the app to make it
work again quite easily.  However, it needs somebody to actually create
a properly maintained version, as it is actually broken now.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread majones

bpa wrote: 
> No a HDS stream (HDS is Adobe's version of chunked HTTP competes against
> Apple's HLS).
> 
> The issue is RTMP (which is what Flash/AAC uses) is implemented in
> BBCiPlayer plugin and Applet to deliver Listen Again. The question I had
> was BBC couldn't move to HLS because PC browsers support Flash and not
> HLS.  It looks like BBC now have a Flash player which can play HDS
> streams so BBC could move from RTMP to HDS for Listen Again on PC
> browser and so break plugins and applet.
I have loads of questions that I could ask, but probably the most
significant is whether we'll need a "PlayHDS" plugin?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread majones

bpa wrote: 
> Making their promise of no more rebuffering come true.
Is it possible that BBCiPlayer routings via mediaselector/5 are now
pointing to HDS streams (ie not RTMP or HLS)? I think this is what you
came across earlier today when you modified the Applet?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread danco

For what it's worth (not much, but surely a little) I succeeded in
downloading today's Start the Week using a program I have on my Mac,
even though the BBC iPlayer plugin did not work.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

StephenC wrote: 
> I suspect that the eBay resale prices for Squeezeboxes in the UK just
> took a hit.

Probably not by enough for me to buy a Transporter. All I want is
something simple that plays 24/96, and a Touch isn't it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

StephenC wrote: 
> Is there anything else at all that has similar usability as the
> Squeezebox family? I have about seven SB3s, two Radios, a Boom, a Touch,
> and four Raspberry Pis running PiCorePlayer. They're used locally, and
> remotely, and I always take a Radio when I travel. They are all
> exclusively used for BBC, live and Listen Again. Mainly Listen Again. If
> this functionality is now permanently broken, then they're all largely
> useless to me. This is a real shame. I suspect that the eBay resale
> prices for Squeezeboxes in the UK just took a hit.

No!

Anybody got a Pure?  Is LA down on that too?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread StephenC

castalla wrote: 
> I'm certainly not buying a slave-labour Apple to listen to the BBC.

Is there anything else at all that has similar usability as the
Squeezebox family? I have about seven SB3s, two Radios, a Boom, a Touch,
and four Raspberry Pis running PiCorePlayer. They're used locally, and
remotely, and I always take a Radio when I travel. They are all
exclusively used for BBC, live and Listen Again. Mainly Listen Again. If
this functionality is now permanently broken, then they're all largely
useless to me. This is a real shame. I suspect that the eBay resale
prices for Squeezeboxes in the UK just took a hit.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Nick_G

Owen Smith wrote: 
> Yes we're all in the same boat.

And it's going up the creek without a paddle...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

ilainftw wrote: 
> The BBC stopped providing (or began hiding) the R3 LA 320k HLS versions
> 2-3 weeks ago.  Seemed a bit like rubbing salt in the wound.
So, as usual, no one seems to know that the BBC's plans are, least of
all probably the BBC itself.

If it wasn't so irritating I'd find it rather sad.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

netim3 wrote: 
> A few systems support Airplay, so let you stream from any apple device.

I'm certainly not buying a slave-labour Apple to listen to the BBC.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread netim3

Owen Smith wrote: 
> Did any of the various other hifi streamers or internet radios offer BBC
> Listen Again (before this debacle). I bought a SqueezeBox partly because
> it was the only one with a Listen Again offering that I could find.

A few systems support Airplay, so let you stream from any apple device.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

Did any of the various other hifi streamers or internet radios offer BBC
Listen Again (before this debacle). I bought a SqueezeBox partly because
it was the only one with a Listen Again offering that I could find.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
> Listen again gone?
> 
> Possible reasons:
> 
> 1. Kevin, the apprentice, has been left in charge, and pressed the wrong
> button?
> 
> 2. Somebody in management didn't sign off on this month's electricity
> bill?
> 
> 3. Audio Factory workers on strike?
> 
> 4. Malice?

Making their promise of no more rebuffering come true.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SharkPlay plugin - radioSHARK player

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

doubleugk wrote: 
> Hi bpa,
> 
> since the last post is from 2012, I'm wondering if your plugin would
> work with LMS 7.9?
> 
> Cheers wgk

Can't see any reason why not ? except possibly the plugin install.xml
file said 7.8 is the max version in which case it is a quick edit.

I assume you have a RadioShark - otherwise a SDR would be better
starting point.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

This posted earlier on  the blog:

'268. Posted by d6jg
on
2 hours ago
Well it seems what some of us suspected from the outset is indeed the
case. There are no manufacturers able to or perhaps prepared to update
existing systems to accommodate HLS wrapped AAC. More manufacturers are
now stating that they were misled.'

so,

5. Nobody can get the streams, may as well switch them off?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

Listen again gone?

Possible reasons:

1. Kevin, the apprentice, has been left in charge, and pressed the wrong
button?

2. Somebody in management didn't sign off on this month's electricity
bill?

3. Audio Factory workers on strike?

4. Malice?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SharkPlay plugin - radioSHARK player

2015-03-09 Thread doubleugk

Hi bpa,

since the last post is from 2012, I'm wondering if your plugin would
work with LMS 7.9?

Cheers wgk



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread danco

I don't know if this is a pure coincidence, but when I tried Listen
Again (as with everyone else, getting nothing playing) Little Snitch
(program that blocks outgoing connections until they are authorised)
reported that Perl was trying to connect to zdnet.com and (on another
try) to quantservere.com.

Can't see why trying to play a radio stream should want a connection
there, but I wasn't knowingly doing anything else involving perl at the
time.

Sometimes Little Snitch has blocked a genuine connection (on the
macromedia port 1935) and the stream only started playing when I allowed
this.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

ModelCitizen wrote: 
> I'm really fed up with this. They've made a mess of The Archers too.
> :-(
> 
> Simon Turner
> Barcombe, Lewes

The BBC don't care. They have their vision of the future, if the real
world doesn't fit with that well it's too late to change plan now,
admitting failure and backtracking is not allowed at the BBC.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread ModelCitizen

I'm really fed up with this. They've made a mess of The Archers too. :-(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread ChipMonk

mick_w wrote: 
> Listen Again has stopped working this evening. Have they pulled the
> plug?
> 
> The HLS live streams are OK.

Same here - LMS latest nightly on Raspberry Pi 2 with HLS plugin. Live
streaming OK, all Listen Again streams now dead. 

I think that my rage is now getting the better of my immense sadness at
this wanton, ignorant and arrogant vandalism. Unless the cavalry (AKA
Triode) rides in to salvage the day in the nick of time, the BBC will
have made this once devoted listener into a vociferous enemy for life.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

castalla wrote: 
> How the hell would anybody know?  The only interactive route to the Beeb
> is the fairytale BBC blog which is a sad tale of lies, misinformation
> and guff.

Someone who knows what they're doing runs wireshark watching a working
device and reverse engineers it. That's the only way it seems with the
BBC these days, in the brave new Audio Factory world.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

Owen Smith wrote: 
> Maybe you now need a Nitro key and they closed the loophole of it
> working without one?

How the hell would anybody know?  The only interactive route to the Beeb
is the fairytale BBC blog which is a sad tale of lies, misinformation
and guff.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

iPlayer Radio app (hideous thing that it is) listen again still working
on my iPad. Started playing The Early Music Show from Radio 3 yesterday.
No idea what bit rate but I got the expected audio.

EDIT: which means some form of HLS listen again is still working,
assuming that's what the world's most hideous radio app uses.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread StephenC

Sod it! I only just got it working again, thanks to BPA's sterling help,
over many hours, and several pages of this thread. I knew the streams
had been mooted for switch off, but didn't think it would be this
brutal.

I'm really, really, really disappointed about this. Fingers crossed that
there's a solution that'll give us back what we've been enjoying for
years.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

mick_w wrote: 
> I just tried the HLS Listen Again hack from post 2958 but that didn't
> work either.

Maybe you now need a Nitro key and they closed the loophole of it
working without one?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Weystoner

Sorry if this is a numpty question, but is this the right thread to find
out how to get IPlayer Listen Again from now on? My LMS IPlayer settings
are for AAC, Flash AAC, Flash MP3 and Windows Media, and all I'm getting
is a voice message on the Listen Live channels saying that the format is
now deleted, or some such.  I've seen today's BBC blog pertaining to
Audio Factory, but I don't understand the implications for the Triode
software.  Will it be possible to get IPlayer again, particularly Listen
Again?  I've tried reading this latest part of the thread but the
technicalities have defeated me. Any enlightenment will be most
gratefully received.

Dave



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

mick_w wrote: 
> I just tried the HLS Listen Again hack from post 2958 but that didn't
> work either.
Confirm that HLS listen again is also not working.

Either the BBC-US mob have mashed it up (left Kevin in control?) or it's
deliberate 



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread mick_w

I just tried the HLS Listen Again hack from post 2958 but that didn't
work either.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

Listen Again dead here too (tried Radio 3 yesterday). We probably
shouldn't have told the BBC we were using RTMP, they might have
forgotten about it and left it running for longer.

So even if we get HLS Listen Again working, it seems there's no 320kbps
AAC for Radio 3? (based on previous posts). If that's the case it's back
to recording Radio 3 on my Freeview PVR, it sounds a bit better than
128kbps AAC.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread mick_w

Listen Again has stopped working this evening. Have they pulled the
plug?

The HLS live streams are OK.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread martinshaw

What have the arseholes done now? Nothing seems to work at the BBC



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

Just posted on the BBC blog

'@ proseak (259): The evidence would suggest that this is indeed the
case:

http://www.unified-streaming.com/company/news/bbc-selects-unified-streaming-video-factory/

Audio Factory is a spin-off of the Video Factory project.'

So, looks like Scott is no more than a snakeoil salesman for US - no
wonder there are no straight answers.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

majones wrote: 
> Presumably all programming post-RTMP will have HLS streams (assuming we
> can find them) so that we can play them courtesy of your PlayHLS plugin
> and ffmpeg. But it's going to get messy if BBCiPlayer defaults to HDS
> streams (that we can't play at present) - which is the problem that
> you've encountered.

Sort of.

As I see it - HLS is available for tablets and smart phones but not all
PC browsers. HDS is available (via Flash) for PC Browser but not all
tablets and smart phones.

So I think BBC will have to put all programming available in both
formats until a single format such as DASH is available on PC Browser,
tablets and phones.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

bonze wrote: 
> It's another term for AOD :)
> 
> Audio On Demand
or the "Alcohol and Other Drugs" (see
http://www.acronymfinder.com/AOD.html) which may be needed to help one
calm down about this fiasco.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread bonze

Owen Smith wrote: 
> What is LA in this context?
It's another term for AOD :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

utgg wrote: 
> I've seen 320kbs LA streams with the android mediaset. The url names may
> imply128kbps, but if you look at the HLS master playlist it does declare
> the higher bit rate alternative. Unless something has changed very
> recently... - I'm unable to look at the moment.
I used another program to see if I could test a higher quality Radio 3
LA using HLS, but 128kbps was all it could find.  The 320kbps LA version
still exists under the old protocol.



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Looking to replace old Qnap101 NAS

2015-03-09 Thread sharper9

Looking for some advice.

Need a - simple - cost effective replacement for my old Qnap 101.

Want to run squeezbox server - with as easier install as possible, to
store photos and maybe the odd movie. Dont need a two bay model and only
2TB storage. 

Thanks in advance



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Smart Mix plugin

2015-03-09 Thread CommanderROR

@Michael

Is there a way to force SmartMix to retry more often? It always seems to
give up after it hits the first roadblock...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread majones

bpa wrote: 
> Since BBC are the hunt for a format which cannot be played except by
> their players - I expect we'll need a PlayHDS except AFAICT ffmpeg, vlc
> and mplayer cannot play it - perfect for BBC but don't worry I expect
> Apple won't allow an Adobe format player on their system Presumably all 
> programming post-RTMP will have HLS streams (assuming we
can find them) so that we can play them courtesy of your PlayHLS plugin
and ffmpeg. But it's going to get messy if BBCiPlayer defaults to HDS
streams (that we can't play at present) - which is the problem that
you've encountered.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread PasTim

Owen Smith wrote: 
> What is LA in this context?
Listen Again

or Acronym Hell..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread StephenC

Listen Again was my interpretation of 'LA'



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-09 Thread Owen Smith

ilainftw wrote: 
> The BBC stopped providing (or began hiding) the R3 LA 320k HLS versions
> 2-3 weeks ago.  Seemed a bit like rubbing salt in the wound.

What is LA in this context?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

majones wrote: 
> I have loads of questions that I could ask, but probably the most
> significant is whether we'll need a "PlayHDS" plugin?

Since BBC are the hunt for a format which cannot be played except by
their players - I expect we'll need a PlayHDS except AFAICT ffmpeg, vlc
and mplayer cannot play it - perfect for BBC but don't worry I expect
Apple won't allow an Adobe format player on their system



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