Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin
Many thanks for the continuing developments. I'm assuming it's probably best for ordinary mortals to await the release of 2.2. I look forward to that. What would be really really nice would be the ability to use a custom format string :D MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109624 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin
bz31 wrote: > Sorry. > I can also see composer, artist on the screen "Playing": 'image' > (https://ibb.co/WVQtNw8) My question was about conductor not composer MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109624 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin
bz31 wrote: > Settings, My Music, Settings That just affects browsing, not Now Playing as far as I can see. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109624 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin
This is a really super skin - very sophisticated and excellent as a mobile app. There's one thing I'm puzzled about - I've done a pretty thorough search of this thread and I can't understand what is supposed to display in the now playing (expanded) view. I thought, if it was a classical genre, I would get conductor as well as composer/artist etc. However, it never seems to appear, even though the genre is defined under "conductor" and the tags (under more...) show that it's there. More generally, is there any way to customise the display text for "Now playing" - e.g. COMPOSER:TITLE, ARTIST, BAND (CONDUCTOR) - or some such? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109624 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
Same problem here - live is OK, but not Listen Again "There was an error loading the remote feed for : (404 Not Found)" (LMS 7.9.1) MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa wrote: > I don't understand what you mean. > > > At a guess there is a conversion happening which depend on the source > alsa and the output file format. Try to match output file format so > that no conversion from source format and see if sound is OK. Sorry for the shorthand. What I mean is that if I select the mic and speaker on the AlsaMixer, it plays OK, but if I use the capture mic and record to a file, then play back the file, it is distorted. The input format is S16_LE (rate 44100) and I am recording to a .wav file. (I have reduced the input level and the volume peaks at 80%) MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
hmm - something wrong with ALSA - straight through mic-speakers is OK but arecord to file is not. PulseAudio is NOT installed. Any suggestions what to look for? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
Any ideas what might be causing this problem? I have been using WaveInput very successfully for over a year. Now the sound is always distorted/warbling. LMS is running on a Raspberry Pi and I have made no changes to the configuration. The warbling has always occurred if the Pi is working too hard (CPU% >50%) but now it happens all the time, even when the CPU is only running at 1-5%. I am using a Pluggable USB audio card and have tested that directly through the ALSAMixer and it is working fine - the problem is only occurring when recording into LMS via WaveInput. All outputs from LMS are affected, not just the Pi. Thanks. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
pippin wrote: > That's that standard way iOS presents buttons side by side in these > slide menus since iOS 8, I'm not going to invent something new here. The > one thing I'm going to improve in the next update is the swipe > detection, currently it requires some motion. > > Regarding the size: iPeng should request unscaled images but I'll > doublecheck. > > I'm aware the sizing is not perfect. Using a modal full-screen view is a > bit complex because iPeng has some more of those but I'm aware of the > cut-off issue and should probably fix it. It felt like nobody EVER used > that feature (this bug has been around for more than two years now > without ANYBODY ever reporting it) so I didn't care until now. > > To show it on the NowPlayiong screen is difficult. This is a feature > probably very, very few users will ever use and I am not going to add > confusion or complexity for all the others for a feature only few have > access to. Context menu is fine. Full screen would be great. Just to clarify, I'm happy with the combination of ipeng and MH's plugin now. As a classical music lover, which i admit may be a minority, I find that quite a few download albums (eg those from Hyperion) have PDFs attached, so this functionality is really useful. I have also taken to scanning my ripped cd booklets using tinyscanner and saving them as PDFs - it's quite quick to do. My guess is that there will be more call for this feature in the future, so any marginal improvements would be good. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Gazjam wrote: > Sure thing, > Thanks Pippin. > > Reply from Michael: > > > I know that can view full screen album art in Ipeng, fantastic. > > What about sleeve notes etc? > > Yes, the plugin would allow you to display pdf, txt, html files in > iPeng. The files should be stored in the same folder as the music files > > themselves. > > -- > > Michael Great! I hadn't spotted that possibility before. It all seems to work provided the PDFs are in the lowest level music folder. So, where I have a 2 disc album in separate folders, the sleevenotes need to be in one of those folders, not the album folder that contains them. However, I'm not sure how to get them to display in full screen on the iPad. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
pippin wrote: > I have to try that out. Usually with graphics in iPeng you can get a > large view through the context menu or - if they are presented as a > slide show - by simply tapping them. It's not completely full screen > (the controls and main menu icons stay) but pretty close. You can get the PDFs fairly large by minimising the menu to icons, but full screen would be better. The forward/back controls at the top don't seem to work with PDF pages. Also, is there an easy way to access this from the now playing screen or is the context menu only available from the main screen / playlist? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Gazjam wrote: > > > Song is playing and I touch the artwork thumbnail in top left corner. > This opens up full screen mode and I swipe to bring up context menu. > I select "Local Artwork" and I can access stored images. > I must admit I don't tend to do the second swipe right as I've clumsily hit delete too many times (maybe more and delete should not be adjacent like that?). Thanks for reminding me. The PDFs are perfectly sharp. The scanned images (also saved as PDFs) are not bad either. I use tinyscanner on the iPad. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Gazjam wrote: > Been an Ipeng user for a long time now, it's the best reason I bought an > IPad and it's worth every penny! > Just wondered if this "killer feature" is possible through a plugin or > some such? > > You can view full screen album art in Ipeng, fantastic. > What about sleeve notes etc? :) > For most of my albums I have this is an "artwork" folder, how cool would > it be to be able to browse through the sleeve notes, scans of booklets > etc whilst listening to the album? > > Do-able at all? > Thanks. Seconded. I have my sleevenotes as PDFs in the same album folder as the music. It would be great if I could browse these from within ipeng when playing the album. As far as I am aware there isn't an LMS plugin for this. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa wrote: > A mistake which hasn't been noticed because the ecasound > custom-convert.conf file was really an example. > > There is an additional space after the "# R" on the line after "wavin > flac * *" - it the "# R " should be "# R". The letter "R" must be the > last character on the line. Can you edit the file on the system and > remove the spare space ? That's it! I've also played around with the WAV type and got that working too (changed to PCM). Fully working copy of custom.conf attached (with extra .txt suffix) in case it helps anyone else. Thanks for the help. I'll feedback how ecasound compares with arecord on the Pi after I've had time to evaluate it. +---+ |Filename: custom-convert.conf.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19376| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa wrote: > Can you attach the ecasound conf file to a post - you'll have to add > extension .txt to it. > Attached +---+ |Filename: custom-convert.conf.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19354| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa wrote: > enable logging player.source to DEBUG, start waveinput and you will see > in the server.log how LMS arrived at the decision which transcoding > chain to use. The log is reproduced below. I am a bit mystified. It seems to imply that no transcoding command was found, yet it is playing (via MP3): [15-11-29 14:34:05.6068] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerTrackStarted (2189) 00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6232] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-alc-fab4-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6246] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-alc-*-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6259] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-alc-fab4-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6271] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-alc-*-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6282] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wma-fab4-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6294] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wma-*-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6305] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wma-fab4-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6318] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wma-*-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6332] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wmap-fab4-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6344] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wmap-*-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6356] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wmap-fab4-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6367] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wmap-*-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6378] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wmal-fab4-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6388] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wmal-*-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6400] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wmal-fab4-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6413] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-wmal-*-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6427] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-aac-fab4-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6438] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-aac-*-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6449] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-aac-fab4-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6460] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-aac-*-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6473] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-ogg-fab4-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6484] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-ogg-*-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6495] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-ogg-fab4-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6506] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-ogg-*-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6518] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-flc-fab4-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6528] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-flc-*-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6539] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-flc-fab4-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6550] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-flc-*-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6560] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (209) Checking to see if wavin-flc-*-* is enabled [15-11-29 14:34:05.6571] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (217) There are 1 disabled formats... [15-11-29 14:34:05.6582] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (223) Testing wavin-wav-*-* vs wavin-flc-*-* [15-11-29 14:34:05.6593] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (250) enabled [15-11-29 14:34:05.6604] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (252) Found command: [ecasound] -q -z:db -b:4096 -f:16,2,44100 -i:alsa,$FILE$ -o stdout | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=44100 --compression-level-0 - [15-11-29 14:34:05.6622] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (373) Rejecting [ecasound] -q -z:db -b:4096 -f:16,2,44100 -i:alsa,$FILE$ -o stdout | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=44100 --compression-level-0 - because no available stream mode supported: R [15-11-29 14:34:05.6635] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: wavin-aif-fab4-00:04:20:22:5a:cd [15-11-29 14:34:05.6646] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa wrote:
> What OS ?
> What model Pi ?
> What version of LMS ?
> Is ALSA native or is Pulse audio installed ?
> What transcoding have you setup for waveinput ?
> The custom-convert.conf files being used for arecord and ecasound
>
Raspbian (Debian - EN - utf8)
Pi 2 B
LMS 7.9.0 Build 1434024570
ALSA native. I have a USB soundcard which is configured as "default".
Transcoding: I assume you mean the filetype setting in LMS? Only one is
offered - arecord (/flac or /lame as appropriate) if the normal .conf is
used - or ecasound (/flac or /lame as appropriate) if the ecasound .conf
is used. The only alternative is disabled. BTW: for arecord, FLAC, MP3
and PCM are offered; for ecasound the filetypes are FLAC, MP3 and WAV
(presumably relates to the .conf files below).
custom-convert.conf files are those supplied with the plugin -
reproduced below:
arecord:
#
# wavin
#
wavin pcm * *
# R
[arecord] -d0 -c2 -f S16_LE -r 44100 -traw -D $FILE$
wavin mp3 * *
# RB:{BITRATE=-B %B}
[arecord] -d0 -c2 -f S16_LE -r 44100 -twav -D $FILE$ | [lame] --silent
-q $QUALITY$ -v $BITRATE$ - -
wavin flc * *
# R
[arecord] -d0 -c2 -f S16_LE -r 44100 -twav -D $FILE$ | [flac] -cs
--totally-silent --compression-level-0 -
ecasound:
#
# wavin
#
wavin wav * *
# R
[ecasound] -q -z:db -b:4096 -f:16,2,44100 -i:alsa,$FILE$ -o stdout
wavin mp3 * *
# RB:{BITRATE=-B %B}
[ecasound] -q -z:db -b:4096 -f:16,2,44100 -i:alsa,$FILE$ -o stdout |
[lame] --silent -r -x -q $QUALITY$ -b $BITRATE$ - -
wavin flc * *
# R
[ecasound] -q -z:db -b:4096 -f:16,2,44100 -i:alsa,$FILE$ -o stdout |
[flac] -cs --totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed
--bps=16 --sample-rate=44100 --compression-level-0 -
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa wrote: > Are you transcoding to Flac or lame ? Aha! This has been an enlightening discussion. I thought LMS was transcoding to FLAC as my understanding was that this was the default for for all players (SB touch and squeezelite) which are set to "no limit" in the player->audio settings. However, disabling each of the file types in turn identified that in fact they were using the MP3 stream! > > Are you transcoding to Lame with ecasound ? If so depending on version > of lame being used - the "-x" can cause white noise. So I removed the "-x" and it works! > > what version of ecasound ? > 2.9.0 It would seem (from playing around a bit) that the transcoding to MP3 is only happening with ecasound. Using arecord, each of the options (FLAC, MP3, PCM) work with the other two disabled, and with FLAC being the default if all are enabled; disabling FLAC causes PCM to be the default (which might help to reduce stress on the Pi a bit). Presumably there is something in the FLAC and WAV entries in the ecasound custom-convert.conf which is preventing them from working, resulting in MP3 being the only usable method? I've tested ecasound with the Pi working hard and it still warbles a bit, but less than with arecord. However, as it is (unecessarily) transcoding to mp3, I wonder if fixing that will reduce the stress. Thanks very much for your help in this (and for the excellent plugin). MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa wrote: > OK - LMS goes through the loop of matching formats a number of times so > may not have posted the right section. Do the following > > 1. Enable player.source to DEBUG > 2. Note the time > 3. Play a wavin stream > 4. wait until sound and note time. > 5. stop LMS > 6. Copy ALL (no editing or cutting out because it "seems" to be a repeat > etc) log message between time noted in step 2 and time noted in step 5 > into a text file. Zip text file > 7. Attach text file to a post. Attached as per instructions. Thanks. +---+ |Filename: LMS_log_29-11-15.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19353| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
Thanks for the quick response. I'm afraid I don't know exactly what info I would need to give for a diagnosis. I have just used the ecasound custom-convert.conf supplied with the plugin. This shows (for flac) endian=little bps=16 sample-rate=44100. What other settings do I need to look at? The general set-up is max2play on raspberry pi with squeezelite, SB touches and iPeng as players. The Pi is running ALSA and all the ALSA and ecasound commands seem to work fine when executed from the command line. As I said, the standard custom-convert.conf (for arecord) works without modification - just occasionally I need to restart squeezelite as it loses the sound and also the sound has a tremolo effect if the cpu usage is 40% or more (and the whole thing stops after about 3.5 hours, which I remember reading somewhere relates to the arecord buffer). Playing files over LMS does not suffer from these problems (even at quite high cpu usage), which is why I was wondering the different buffering in ecasound might help. Previously I was using Butt and Icecast on a laptop to stream the line-in, but that was proving to be a pain as the laptop is not permanently connected. I guess I could try and install a similar "broadcast" set-up on the Pi, but it seems like overkill and the Waveinput approach seems so much neater. Apologies if this is still inadequate information, but I don't know what else is "specific" about my set-up. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
Hi. I've just installed Waveinput for Linux, having moved all my audio processing onto a Raspberry Pi. It works (sort of) fine using the ALSA arecord, but it does stop after a while (3.5 hours) and occasionally stutters if the Pi is a bit busy. I'm wondering if using ecasound would improve things. I've got ecasound working, but when I switch to the ecasound custom-convert.conf all I get is white noise. I tested separately the commands in the conf file and I can record and replay OK. Firstly, would ecasound be more robust than arecord? Secondly, if so, what should I try to get it working with waveimput? Many thanks. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Custom Clock applet for Touch/Radio/Controller
erland wrote: Have you selected it in Custom Clock Helper plugin settings page by selecting Various Settings in the Clock styles dropdown and then specifying it in the Title formats section of the page shown ? The Title formats specified in Custom Clock Helper/Various Settings section is used to forward non standard titelforward keywords to Custom Clock. You might also have to restart the Radio/Touch where Custom Clock runs to refresh any caches. I set up all the title formats as suggested. I haven't tried rebooting the devices, so will see if that does anything. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68269 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Custom Clock applet for Touch/Radio/Controller
erland wrote: You don't need my Information Screen plugin but you might need Michael's Music Information Screen plugin for some functionality. I installed Michael's plugin as well, but it seemed to do nothing as I only have SB touch devices. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68269 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Custom Clock applet for Touch/Radio/Controller
radioactive wrote: Add CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_WORK in title format on LMS interface Tab. Then add CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_WORK in the Custom Clock Helper various settings. Thanks, but I'd done that - it worked in the playlist (rhs of web interface) but not on the lhs. Custom clock just shows the tag name. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68269 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Custom Clock applet for Touch/Radio/Controller
MDE wrote: Update: I've fixed the [part of the] problem - that was just a permissions issue. I also found an old post that implied you need Information Screen to make this work. So I installed Information Screen (plugin and applet). However (and despite restarting everything) the Title Formats still do not appear on the screen. Further update: The tags CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_OPUS and CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_MOVEMENT can now be added in the Custom Clock Helper various settings, as mentioned in the update post. However, other Title Formats which have been successfully added in the Custom Scan various settings (e.g. CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_WORK) cannot be added in Custom Clock Helper various settings - after clicking apply it just disappears from the list. If anyone is watching this thread and can shed _any_ light on the problem, that would be helpful. I have tried all the obvious restarts etc. I have also inspected the persist.db and can see that the tags are there and have values. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68269 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Custom Clock applet for Touch/Radio/Controller
MDE wrote: I am trying to use Custom Tags in Custom Clock. The tags CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_OPUS and CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_MOVEMENT are defined as Title Formats in the Custom Scan various settings. I can see that these are working OK by selecting and viewing them in the Web Interface. In Custom Clock Helper, I have tried to set them as Title Formats in various settings. When I click apply it says that the settings are saved, but does not display the Title Format in the list. Attempting to use the Title Format in a tracktext item just results in the words CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_OPUS etc being displayed. Any ideas what is going wrong here? Update: I've fixed the problem When I click apply it says that the settings are saved, but does not display the Title Format in the list. - that was just a permissions issue. I also found an old post that implied you need Information Screen to make this work. So I installed Information Screen (plugin and applet). However (and despite restarting everything) the Title Formats still do not appear on the screen. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68269 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Custom Clock applet for Touch/Radio/Controller
I am trying to use Custom Tags in Custom Clock. The tags CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_OPUS AND CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_MOVEMENT are defined as Title Formats in the Custom Scan various settings. I can see that these are working OK by selecting and viewing them in the Web Interface. In Custom Clock Helper, I have tried to set them as Title Formats in various settings. When I click apply it says that the settings are saved, but does not display the Title Format in the list. Attempting to use the Title Format in a tracktext item just results in the words CUSTOMSCAN_MIXEDTAGS_OPUS etc being displayed. Any ideas what is going wrong here? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68269 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes2 plugin - Airtunes on your LMS
flysurfer wrote: Great Plugin! Just tested Shairtunes2 compared to the Shairtunes Plugin we used until now in the Max2Play-Image for Rasbperry and ODROID and it works much better espacially with the ODROID hardware! I will replace the current one with your Shairtunes2 in the next version. It can be installed just by clicking Install Shairtunes on our Max2Play webinterface (on Squeezebox Server tab). Thanks again! Coincidentally, I have just (today) installed Shairtunes on my Max2Play RPi. However it does not seem to work: max2play comes up as a selectable option on the iPad AirPlay menu, but nothing gets to the SB players. I am assuming that this is the old version of Shairtunes, however, since (despite updating max2play) I do not see an option to install Shairtunes2. The max2play version is given as 2.13. Any ideas how to fix the problem and/or to get Shairtunes2? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103783 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes2 plugin - Airtunes on your LMS
I've now got it all working. However, to do so I installed it directly in LMS, rather than via the Max2Play interface which didn't seem to install Shairtunes (previous version) properly. I must say it is a really neat and useful piece of software. Many congratulations and thanks! MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103783 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Oh dear. This is phpbb, supposedly the best. What is it, the catchpa thingy? EDIT: Have changed it to a simpler one. Registration worked OK for me. I have had problems with spam registrations on a phpbb I run. Otherwise it is good, albeit the admin panel is not entirely intuitive. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: oo-er. Let me know if there are any odd sequences of characters in the tags - a view of all the column values for the album from the grid may be needed. It was caused by using a pipe symbol | in the filter box (shorthand for OR). I was trying out various filters - I often find this the quickest way of finding a piece. It would be helpful to confirm what the syntax is for these. For example, if you type bach sonata it is treated as bach AND sonata and will filter all albums with both words appearing. This is great 90% of the time and I prefer it to many search engines that default to OR. However, it does not seem possible to use any conjunctions. I think if you put in bach OR sonata it will find albums with all 3 words. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Yes I intend to do some work in that area, currently you cannot enter OR conditions - it's on my TODO list (quite high up). If you enter two words it will show you albums which match both (ie. AND condition) as you correctly state. If you enter two words in quotes though it will match that exact string (though I think will ignore case differences). Does the pipe symbol exist in that album's tags somewhere? It tries to highlight in an album the words which match the current filter, I think that's where its gone wrong here. There are no pipes in my tags (confirmed by just filtering on |) MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: That shall be my priority now then - no more UI enhancements for the time being. I would have expected this to have been escalated with more urgency than all the UI tweaks I've been asked for, this seems more important. If anyone can capture logs when this occurs I'd appreciate it. I just did as you suggested and re-selected the player when it happened - which fixed it. So not a big problem, except that re-selecting the player now clears the Queue (which is unnecessary I think, since it can be cleared manually). Also it is an intermittent problem. I will try and get a log file next time it happens. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
Morbeas wrote: This is off-topic but I'd like to know (from you classical fans) which albums you feel are must-have CDs in your collections. If you could just list your top 3 recommendations, that'd be great. Otherwise this might turn into a whole discussion about classical music, and I'm not sure everyone would appreciate that in a support thread. ;) Have a good Sunday everyone. :) Well, it is very off-topic, but this Sunday I've been digging out and diverting a stream, which had washed a load of mud down to my house and was threatening to flood it, then clearing all the mud away :( , which is really off-topic, so I have to just say Bach's Well-tempered Clavier (particularly the Angela Hewitt version) to restore peace and order to the chaos. To bring things back vaguely to topic, I must echo all the comments about Muso being the best music management software. In fact it is the only software that properly handles classical music and makes it a joy rather than a frustration to stream it. On top of that, one of the most thoughtful and responsive of developers. If I had just one wish it would be to have completely flexible mapping of all custom and standard tags into Muso. This would enable classical music lovers to set up the right tags for Muso to use and then to define the standard tags in such a way that the players (such as LMS/SBT) display what is required. I think this is on the ToDo list, but not sure how far up. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: I have changed the telnet timeout from 2 seconds to infinity, and added two levels of auto-recovery/auto-connection if some other disconnection does occur. So hopefully this will fix it - if not I will need debug logs to tell me what is occurring. I am surprised that it was timing out at 2 seconds for some people though, I would have thought the CLI would have been more responsive. Regret that (with v 1.5.12) it just happened again. This time I was streaming to iPeng (away from home). After 1 album had finished, played another after a little while, but it still showed the last track of the 1st album in Now Playing and the Now Playing screen wouldn't open. I don't know if this was connected with the iPod sleeping. Reselected the player and Now Playing updated OK (and cleared the queue...). This should all be at the end of the (rather long) log I am sending by email. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: If iPeng on iPod is your squeezebox device, I would think the iPod sleeping would prevent communication with it - but what do you mean by sleeping? Can the web interface on the same machine as muso communicate with it? I should have said that I woke the iPod and that the music queued and played OK. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: I suspect that even LMS can't communicate with it if it's sleeping. ;) What I meant was that I woke it first, then queued the music which played, but the the Now Playing didn't update. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: I have an ipod with ipeng - I rarely use it as a player but could to try this out. Now, when you talk about it sleeping, do you mean when you close the ipeng app, or when the screensaver comes on and you have to slide to unlock, or what? The log file should help - just received it - I'll look at it in detail in the morning. I just mean that the screen went off so you need to press the button and unlock. iPeng was left open. I got fed up with the iPeng player but the new version seems to work much better. Useful where I am now as it is plugged into the hifi and the laptop can control from a distance. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
Not sure why this happened. Not seen it before, but it did repeat when I reselected the album. Went back to the full gallery and tried again and it was OK. +---+ |Filename: Franck.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14344| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Pretty big release just done: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?81685-ANNOUNCE-muso-%28production%29p=734594viewfull=1#post734594 Not mentioned in the announcement, but I'm pleased to see that the queue now has a total playing time and an ability to clear it. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
MDE wrote: Looks like you fixed both issues. Many thanks. Spoke too soon! It fixed the problem for some of the albums, but not all. See image below - There is no Album Artist, Artist is Pro Cantione Antiqua or Pro Cantione Antiqua;English Medieval Wind Ensemble (varies by track). Composers are various. Muso has picked up Pro Cantione Antiqua as being the artist common to all tracks and placed this under the album header, but described them as Composer. I'm also slightly curious as to why, having identified Pro Cantione Antiqua as being the artist for the album, Muso has not treated them as being the Titled Artist. +---+ |Filename: Xmas.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14272| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Looks a weird one. Is the genre directing Muso to assume this is a classical album? Looks like it isn't. Will look into this today though... it certainly shouldn't be taking Artist to be Composer! Genre is a classical one. I had cut off the top of the screen which shows classical mode. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: This is 1.5.08 ? Tried to reproduce it but am having trouble. The appending composer in brackets after each track name indicates this isn't being treated as a classical album. Is there perhaps a mixture of genre tags? I'd need to see all the tags I think to work this one out. NB. Of course the answer is to set Album Artist, but I am still interested in why Muso is making certain assumptions (possibly wrongly) in the absence of album artist. Definitely 1.5.08 (checked the about). Database reproduced below if it helps. As you can see- I am in classical mode. Both the Genres are defined as classical. +---+ |Filename: Xmas2.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14273| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Christmas and Song are classical genres? I'm only part-way through re-tagging - just trying to focus on Albums Artists and Composers for now. Fortunately I don't have any recordings of White Christmas :) Hmm OK, I think I sorted out most things with this oddly tagged album, but note that if it's classed as classical and Composer is present, as it is in this example, it will never derive titled artist from the Artist tags, which are considered secondary to Composer (even if these are the only consistent tags across the album) - but of course you can specify the titled artist via Album Artist tag. In the next build though it should give correct secondary billing to the common artist however, and produce track listings consistent with the categorisation of classical at the album level. EDIT: I haven't created a new version to include this fix, it's just a new build to the existing version 1.5.08 - so please download build 1 from the muso page and re-install over the top. That fix seems to work. However, here is the current head-scratch: Best practice seems to be to only use Album Artist when strictly necessary and this works nicely in Muso. However, if you omit Album Artist and just use Artist (being the performer) and Composer, then the SB Touch does not display the composer. If you omit Artist and put the performer in as Album Artist, then the SB Touch displays the composer alongside the artist. So what is recommended and works in Muso does not work on the SB Touch. Any thoughts? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
Morbeas wrote: This is part of the reason why I think proper tagging is the most important thing in library management. It is very nice (and appreciated) that muso has built in intelligence to group things together nicely despite tagging errors, I would very much appreciate a toggle switch to turn off that built-in intelligence so that muso displays the music directly as tagged. This would expose every tagging error for those of us who wish to correct them. Actually, it'd be even better if muso could point out the tagging errors/inconsistencies while in this intelligence off mode. Agreed. The other thing that it seems to indicate to me is, given that the SB touch will not change, that Muso needs to be able to map any tag (standard or custom) from the music file to any tag (standard or custom) used by Muso. That way, the tagging can be set up with any necessary peculiarities to ensure that the player works, while allowing Muso to display the right tags. For example, a lot of classical music fans use Album to represent a specific work or opus. This displays nicely on the player, but in Muso you want to see the original disc as the album. If you have a custom tag such as CDName, it would be nice to map that to Album in Muso and to map Album to Work or Groupheader. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
In trying to make my tagging flexible and future-proof (as if), my approach is becoming one where custom tags hold all the component pieces of data. Thus I can have Movement and Opus tags and then concatenate them to produce Title. It occurs to me that the same approach should be used for other standard tags that can cause difficulty, such as Artist. This allows the Artist tag to be built (using mp3tag for example) from the custom tags, including Composer. I mentioned in a previous post that, if there is an Artist tag, the Composer does not get shown on the SB Touch display. Concatenating artist and composer into the Artist tag solves that problem (as does having an Album Artist and no Artist, if the circumstances permit). The only (slight) problem with having both in the Artist tag is that Muso then shows (in classical mode) the composer twice (as composer and artist) - see screenshot below. Would it be a good idea to eliminate multiple references to the same artist/composer etc. at the same level? I don't know whether this might have unforeseen consequences, but it would make for a cleaner view (especially if there are other contributing performers/ ensembles etc., which there aren't in the example given). BTW, the two-composer attribution works perfectly for albums like this. +---+ |Filename: Chopin.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14275| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
MDE wrote: I have a similar album as shown below. Vanessa-Mae is Album Artist. It seems that if there are different composers then it works OK, but not if the composer is the same for all tracks. I suspect this is because Muso wants to display Composer at the album level, but there it gets overridden by Album Artist. I think what should happen if it is overridden in this way is that Composer is displayed below the Album header along with other common tags such as performer, conductor and band. (BTW I have not yet entered Band for this album). jezbo wrote: Ah OK that may be it. EDIT: Found it, will be fixed in next release. Just been looking at this in the new release. Composer is displayed in the album header OK. However, (1) if the album is a classical album and there is only one artist but several composers and no album artist, it gets treated like a compilation whereas it should be attributed to the sole artist as Titled Artist. Also, (2) if there is an album with only one artist (set as Artist tag) and composer (set as Composer) and I set the Album Artist to be the artist, then the composer does get displayed below the header in the album view, but as Composer: composername/artistname; in other words it is treating the artist as if they were a composer. It should just display Composer: composername, or maybe Composer: composername Artist: artistname if there is a different artist to the Album Artist. I suspect this all derives from trying to treat composers as artists for classical albums: this is a great idea but obviously gets a bit more complex as you try and fine tune it. The work-round I have to (2) is to name the artist as performer and album artist and to leave artist blank. This then displays Composer: composername Performer: artistname The conclusion I derive from both (1) and (2) is that with Muso as it is currently designed, if you want a classical (performer) artist to appear as the Titled Artist, it is best to name them as Album Artist and Performer and to leave the Artist tag blank. Otherwise, leave Album Artist blank and name them as Artist. This displays the artist on the SB touch either way round, although I'm not sure that all player software does this. Whether this is the right answer or not, I don't know. It would be nice if it was a tad more intuitive; also, if you change your mind and remove the artist from Album Artist, they will only appear as a performer which will not appear on the player. Nevertheless, the main thing as far as I'm concerned is that a logical and consistent approach is taken by Muso and that the user is not faced with frequent re-tagging in order to optimise the display. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: (1) I think that's the situation I already address in 1.5.07 (2) Not sure I understand regarding the display of Composer: composername/artistname, could you post a screenshot? (1) I think so too. (2) See screenshot below. Hewitt named as Album Artist and Artist (as well as performer). If I remove the Artist tag the problem goes away. +---+ |Filename: Hewitt2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14271| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
oyvindo wrote: Sorry for butting in, but I think this issue illustrates some of my points as well. Why should Muso have to guess it's way around just because you don't bother to fill all tags with correct contents? Fill everything in properly as part of your maintanence responsibility, and there will be no neeed to for Muso to compensate for lack of information by doing guesswork. If you choose not do fill in a certain tag, then accept that the resulting display is unpredictable Did that make sense, or am I way off? :-) Rgds Viking There are obviously different philosophies here. Personally I think the Muso approach is the right one. No-one has their files tagged perfectly, and certainly most cannot be bothered. I think once the bugs are fixed that the intelligent approach will prove its merits. After all, since the way it is agreed that Muso should work is that full and accurate tagging overrides Muso's assumptions, then everyone should be happy. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: What do you have in the Composer tags? EDIT: Ah I see, it's a simple bug. Will fix it now. EDIT 2: Fixed in 1.5.08 Looks like you fixed both issues. Many thanks. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
Any idea why sometimes the now playing does not update (I'm using LMS)? It seems to happen when I come back to Muso after a little while and it just seems to stick at the now playing from the previous session. It may be something to do with having hibernated the PC in the meantime. Problem is solved by closing and restarting Muso. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: It will probably lose connection with the player if it hibernates yes. You could just re-select the same player rather than closing and restarting muso, that will probably re-establish connection, but I'll see if anything else can be done to automatically re-connect. Actually I's just done it again when I paused the player. But reselecting the player fixed it, thanks. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
Just a minor addition to my previous suggestion on this (to be able to delete the list). Could there be a display of the total playing time of the queue - very handy when putting together an evening's listening? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Morbeas wrote: Proper tagging is absolutely key. You also have to be consistent. I've always put the composer in the COMPOSER tag and never had a problem. http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Encouraged_Tag_Standards Just to show how I tag my classical albums, I'm posting 2 screenshots. One of the actual tags (extended tags view from MP3tag) and the other of how it's displayed in muso. Question for you is how do you get your group headers displayed like that? OK, thanks for that, but I'm not sure why Muso replaces Composer by Album Artist in these circumstances. Re the Groupheaders, my scheme is as follows. Every (classical music) track has an Opus tag (which has the full title of the work, plus the opus number). Tracks are generally named like this: Opus: Movement. In the custom tag options (I use LMS), Opus is mapped to Groupheader. This achieves the CD insert appearance in the browser, and makes the SB touch display the Opus in the title - this is necessary because I am making my album tags match the actual albums, not the works (which I have found can get very messy). Ideally what I would like is to customise the SB touch display, but this seems infeasible. I should add that I am also making Movement tags (using mp3tag actions to extract from Title) This gives me flexibility to reconstruct Title tags in a different format if the need arises. For similar reasons, I have CDName tags which hold the original album name. That way I can name Album to be Opus or CDName using an mp3tag action. Hopefully this will future-proof the tagging. Perhaps I should consider a similar approach to Album Artist since, given the rule you have referred to, it will be required in some cases if Album=CDName but not if Album=Opus, however I can't see how to do this in mp3tag since it requires the context of other tracks in the same album to determine the result, whereas mp3tag operates on a track by track basis. I should probably also split Opus into Work + Opus Number: this would have the benefit of not having to use exactly the same words in the Opus tag if I want Muso to group two versions of a work in the hierarchy. Overall then, the approach I am leaning towards is to have custom tags holding each significant metadata element and then automatically (in mp3tag) constructing the standard tags in the way that optimises use by the software I have at any time. Software may change over time, but I don't want to re-tag again! MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: I can't see whether Composer is set in the Composer column - is it? But I do see you have Alfred Brendel as the Album Artist (and the performer possibly). So this is why the titled artist of the album is him. Can't you see it if you scroll across? - I can on my screen :) Anyway the answer is that Ludwig van Beethoven is listed as Composer for every track. As Morbeas has suggested, if I remove the Album Artist tag them he magically appears in the Muso browser screen. In other words, Muso infers LvB as being the Titled Artist in preference to Alfred Brendel, unless AB is listed as Album Artist. I would expect them to get joint billing in the latter case. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Correct. If you wanted them to get joint billing in Muso then you can specify Ludwig van Beethoven; Alfred Brendel in the Album Artist column for all tracks, as I've said the Album Artist column allows you to control who gets top billing (ie. titled artist), overriding any intelligent logic, and I wouldn't want to change this rule. Thanks, I understand that now, but I would still expect LvB to be listed against tracks (or groupheaders). MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: I don't know actually, since your album is no different to this as far as I can tell, and this outputs composer before each group heading: Martha Argerich here is the Performer and the Album Artist, since I want her credited as the titled artist rather than the composers. I have a similar album as shown below. Vanessa-Mae is Album Artist. It seems that if there are different composers then it works OK, but not if the composer is the same for all tracks. I suspect this is because Muso wants to display Composer at the album level, but there it gets overridden by Album Artist. I think what should happen if it is overridden in this way is that Composer is displayed below the Album header along with other common tags such as performer, conductor and band. (BTW I have not yet entered Band for this album). +---+ |Filename: Mae2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14246| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: It's not that it SHOULD be left blank, but it CAN be left blank - it doesn't matter if they are set to the same. . The Artist column for classical albums shouldn't really be used at all in my opinion, since there are all the necessary attributes for specifying the artistic roles: Composer, Conductor, Ensemble, Performer. Artist is treated as just another secondary artistic (supporting) role if it is filled in though. If Album Artist and Artist are left blank and just Composer and Performer are used, then Muso splits the Album into separate Albums for each composer, unless the compilation flag is set. I have been using Album Artist to make sure the Album is collated properly. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Do you keep your albums arranged in folders? If so ensure that the Albums are generally grouped into their own folders option is ticked under Options/Album Collation. Then ensure that the album has the Album Organisation flag set to keep the album together by folder: (or use the 2nd option if it's to be collated by parent folder, eg. for an album separated into multiple disk folders) (the 3rd option is where the tracks may be scattered around - only when this is used does it collate by Artist/AlbumArtist/Composer/Compilation-flag). It should set this flag correctly on importing once you have the above option set, but you may need to change it for albums which already exist - if so choose the Edit Tracks option for an album, then control-A then click the Edit link to edit all an album's tracks in ine go. I've re-imported and now it's OK when I delete the Artist tags, so maybe I had the 3rd option selected. I must confess the descriptions of how these operate (with or without the Album Collation Option) are a bit unclear to me. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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I've noticed a few oddities as I've been using the software more: (1) Where the Title is set as Opus: Movement (which I do for classical music in order to get the SB touch to display the details) and Opus is mapped to Groupheader, then the browser looks fine - just like the CD insert, as it strips out the Groupheader from the Title. However, the Now Playing screen does not strip it out - it gets duplicated in that display. (2) Where Artist, Conductor and Performer tags are used, then if someone appears in more than one category (e.g. artist and performer), then they get listed twice against the track in the browser. (3) The sort order in the hierarchy doesn't always seem to work properly. It seems to work fine for Composer, but not for Performer or Conductor (most of them are sorted properly, but some appear consistently out of sequence for reasons I cannot identify). For example: Simon Rattle is shown as Rattle, Simon but is listed in the B's! MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Does Simon Rattle appear in the Sorting tab under Options with some strange namesort that would put it with the Bs? So he does! He has Alfred Brendel's name against him. How does this sort list get populated - I didn't put it there deliberately? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Morbeas wrote: Check your extended tags with MP3Tag. Also, if they're FLAC files, ensure that it says FLAC(FLAC) under the Tag column in MP3Tag. If it says anything else (IDv3 etc), then select all the files and do a CTRL+X immediately followed by a CTRL+V. Tags look OK. I think it is something to do with Muso picking up the Artist Sort tag from LMS. In one album, Simon Rattle and Alfred Brendel are both listed as Artist, but only Brendel, Alfred is listed as Artist Sort. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: It pulls them in from LMS. According to this page LMS pulls this in from an ARTISTSORT ogg-vorbis tag, or from TSOP in an id3v2.4 tag: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SlimServerSupportedTags (though it still says SlimDevices in the title of this page, I believe it's still accurate). If you remove the tag from the file and re-scan LMS, you will probably have to remove it from the Muso Sorting table too - or just clear the table completely before the next synch (Control-A while focused on the table, followed by the Delete key). Thanks. I'm spending quite a bit of time tag-tidying, so I'll add that to the list. I have noted that if there are multiple artists, it is very important to list them in the same order in the sorted field as in the main field (now Brendel and Rattle are swapped!). Another thing I'm scratching my head over is the display of composers when browsing an album. Sometimes they get listed just before the work, but as far as I can make out, they do not get listed unless they are also an artist in some capacity, in which case they then get listed as an artist as well. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: I think I'd need to see some example screenshots. Unless the album is classical, the composer should be output at track level after the track name. Classical albums are different, since Composer is considered the primary Artist key rather than Artist. As you can see, this album does not display the composer name anywhere (except as part of the album name, which is irrelevant). I have also shown the database, naming the composer. BTW Genre Instrumental is a classical type (under options) and as you can see we are in classical mode. +---+ |Filename: Brendel2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14240| +---+ MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Morbeas wrote: I noticed you have identical values in both ARTIST and ALBUMARTIST tags. My understanding is that if you only have one ARTIST for the entire album, the ALBUMARTIST tag should be left blank. You're right! I changed that in the Muso database and now it is as expected. I assume if I change the underlying tags and re-sync then that should work too. However, I don't understand the logic of it at all. I notice that using the composer in artist tags also creates problems (duplications). This is a shame as it is a very common feature of many classical music databases as a work-round for (inferior) software. Are there other obscure (to me at least) semantic rules of which I should be aware? I haven't worked through all the implications of this yet (bedtime in UK), but it seems that to get the composer to take priority I can't list the performing artist for the album as album artist - rather they have to be listed as artist on each track. Also, this could create some awkward restrictions and problems with other (player) software. However, I think that the SB touch is OK as it lists composer as well as artist on the now playing screen. I am attempting to re-tag all my albums and would prefer not to do the job over again! MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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I reported earlier some problems with duplications when changes were made to the underlying music file tags, rescanned in LMS and synch'd. After further investigation, I believe this to be a problem with LMS in that it does not always delete changed tracks/albums from the database when rescanning. The way to resolve this is to do a complete rescan in LMS, rather just doing new and changed files. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Is this after moving files physically (or renaming files or folders) ? The chief cause of the problem on this occasion seems to be renaming album tags. I was careful not to rename files/folders for this test as I was aware that can cause problems. However, when renaming the album tags, it appeared that LMS kept a record of the old album in the database, which then replicated across to Muso. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Is there any way of clearing the queued music list? I understand that it operates independently of the playlist (in LMS, say), in which case clearing it should be possible as it is only a presentational matter and does not result in any actions. Or does it serve some subtle purpose of which I am unaware? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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oyvindo wrote: Agree - I found it. As I've been using MediaMonkey for years to manage my complete Album DB, I learned today that MM does not support the compilation tag. I guess that's why I never became aware of its existence. If I use Muso to set the compilation tag properly for 708 compilation albums - is Muso capable of actually writing this tag back to each MP3 file for me? I would suggest you use mp3tag to do that MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Yes, it's Album Artist if you have entered Album Artist, but it can be based on Artist too if you haven't. I think it would be just as confusing calling it Album Artist when it's not necessarily derived from the Album Artist attribute. I don't think Titled Artist is a term used all over the product (perhaps only in the artist view's category sub-title where it says As Titled Artist), I really only use it in some of my explanations because I thought it helped clarify things - but obviously not! I note that the terms supporting artist and supporting contributor are also used. These are no more real tags than titled artist. Rather they are inferred from the context. Personally, I think that this approach is helpful in that it enriches the data provided in the tags and by and large succeeds. To me one of the big advantages of Muso is this intelligent approach which is reflected elsewhere in the design. Taken too far, this could get a bit irritating (like some big software companies' attempts at intelligence), but I don't think that is the case here. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Mechanism to choose hierarchy levels is now by left-click only via new option New Hierarchy under Hierachy link. - Each option under New Hierarchy opens sub-menus for lower levels but you don't have to use sub-levels if you don't want to, just click on the level you want. - Each time a new hierarchy is chosen it adds to an MRU (Most Recently Used) list under the main Hierarchy link (up to 10 are shown per user). This is certainly a bit more intuitive than the previous right click method. Just a small suggestion, perhaps one could right-click on an existing hierarchy to given an option to delete it? Also, is there any way to clear the queued music listing, since clearing the playlist in LMS does not achieve this? Overall, the user interface is now looking really slick. I am still struggling a bit with the metadata interface to LMS. I appreciate that some of this, at least, may be an LMS problem, but I'd like to stick with it as I use it from the SB touches and iPod touch. For example, I have had a few issues getting the performer tag to populate in Muso. This is a really useful tag for classical music as it enables you to separate out orchestras (in the band tag) from named artists. Band works fine in that LMS recognises it and Muso imports it OK. Performer seems not to be recognised by LMS (still!). I have therefore scanned it as a Custom Tag. The only way I can then get it into Muso is to map it to soloist (BTW soloist may be a misleading title as not all performers are necessarily soloists). This then displays as Performer in the Muso user interface, which is a bit inconsistent, but the right end result. Any soloist tags in the underlying folders do not get mapped, however. I tried an alternative approach, of importing directly from the folders, rather than syncing with LMS. This imports data into performer, but the source is the soloist tag not the performer tag. I suspect there is a bit of history here and in any case people will have personal preferences for using the performer and soloist tags. Personally, I think I will stick with performer as it is more general, and I will move all my soloist tags to performer, so I am happy with the way it works now (aside from the apparent inconsistency of mapping via soloist). (BTW I want to stick with the LMS master sync , as that does the groupheadings nicely). In some future version, you might like to consider a more flexible approach to tag definition and mapping; also the ability to apply metadata changes to the underlying music files. However, I think the software works really well as it is now, and I would suggest that the main priority may be some better documentation. This would make it more accessible and attractive to more users. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Yes a right click option to delete a hierarchy from the MRU list is one I was thinking about anyway. At one time Muso used the term Soloist I think, but for the reason you state I changed this to Performer - does it still refer to it as Soloist somewhere? But the file import mechanism does read any SOLOIST/SOLOISTS (Ogg Vorbis) tags into this muso column, because I was led to understand it was more standard. If you have PERFORMER ogg vorbis tags instead, the custom tag mechanism from LMS should still be able to pull this into Muso's Performer column. I agree about the documentation, this is why I started the wiki - but it will take some time to complete. If you go to Options-Custom tag, then the pull-down under Track Attribute lists soloist not performer. Changing it to performer would remove any confusion. It seems to me that there is very little actual standardisation in Ogg Vorbis / Flac tags, hence the suggestion that ultimately user-defined tag naming and mapping (with a default) might make sense. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Eventually I'll make the custom tag configuration apply to reading Ogg Vorbis tags from files as well, currently it only applies to the LMS synch. That would have the added advantage that one could set up LMS tags to optimise the display (on SB touch etc) and the Muso tags to optimise browsing. Both would be sourced from the music files, which would remain the definitive record. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Exactly yes, which is what we should be aiming for. Muso does let you edit the database attributes but I think most people will want to get the tags correct and never have to rely on database editing in muso, because if the muso database is ever lost then the master data is gone (though muso takes two backups internally, it's still possible to lose all in the event of disk failure). By having the master data in your tags, it's more secure (people are more likely to backup their music externally), and easy to rebuild your muso database just as it is to clear and rescan LMS. The problem I have to face with reading tags on a file scan is that I have a tag library for reading any custom Ogg Vorbis tag (for flac/ogg files), but the ID3 tag reader (for mp3 files) is restricted to the standard tags so cannot currently read custom tags. Hmm. I don't have a lot of MP3 files and they are mostly popular music, which presents less tagging problems. Most of my library has been ripped from my own CD's to Flac (which seems to me to be the best format for this), rather than downloaded. There is no problem adding custom tags to MP3 files and then scanning via LMS. A work round for someone wanting to use custom tags directly (not via LMS) would be to convert MP3 files to flac (eg with dBpoweramp) which of course takes 3x as much space for no quality gain. Of course, Mp3tag both creates and reads custom tags on mp3 files somehow. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: I do have a Squeezebox Touch, but you're right - I don't normally do any browsing via this, since the album collation and metadata in muso is correct in my terms, but in LMS it's not - because I've edited attributes in muso and not the underlying tags. Most people will want to get the tags right and have both LMS and Muso reflect them, so won't be doing much (if any) attribute editing within muso. It's called a Synch with LMS because it can also push ratings back to LMS, but other than that you're right it's an Import. I'm puzzled how you get duplicate tracks in Muso after editing then synching - it uses the track file path/name as the key so unless you have moved tracks physically I don't see how this can happen - could you send me a screenshot with an example? I edit and synch all the time without issue. Ah - the duplicates may have occurred because I changed folder names as well as tags. In this case, deleting the album/tracks from Muso (only) seems to work. However, there seems to be a related issue in that if I edit some tags in the folder and then re-sync, the edit doesn't come over to Muso. I have edited album tags in this way and then needed to edit them again in Muso. Also, title tags. On the other hand, editing (in the folder) my custom Opus tags which are mapped to groupheader worked fine - Muso updated these. I have kept screenshots of this if required (probably best to email separately with a description as there are quite a few). MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: Well you have to ask LMS to update its library to get the new tags before pulling them from LMS into Muso. If you set the LMS is Master option, it will force the synch to always set the tags in Muso as pulled from LMS, even if the corresponding Muso attribute is set and different (otherwise it doesn't know if you have edited the tag in Muso and want to keep it). I had updated LMS and then Muso. However I hadn't spotted the LMS is Master option. Checked that and it all seems to have updated properly, thanks. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: I'll see what I can do to strip non-alpha characters as well as the group heading from track names. EDIT: Done in supplemental build 1.5.01.02. Group header can be displayed in the grid - if you tick it on Select Columns. And you can re-order columns in the grid by dragging the header (it's a built-in .NET feature, and sometimes requires more than one attempt - not sure why). It will remember the new column order. There's also a short-cut edit feature for group header - if you select multiple rows for which the group header is the same (or track names have a common prefix), it opens up a group header edit section at the bottom of the grid which (if edited) will affect the group header in all selected rows (quicker than going to the edit window). Thanks. Do you want me to test 1.5.01.02? In which case, how do I get it? Dragging columns always seems to require exactly 2 attempts but it does work. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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jezbo wrote: It's the same download link for 1.5.01 - just a later minor build (Help/About shows you the build number). Downloaded latest version from klarita.net. About shows build as 1.5.0.5. Colons still appear at start of title. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: # Strange. Is the msi name downloaded musoSetup1501.msi ? Looks like you ran musoSetup1500.msi. Refresh your page in case your browser has cached an old copy. OK, Chrome had cached the page, even though I reloaded. Cleared cache and now got the right version. Track names now working fine with leading colons removed. Also I like the new look with the hierarchy in the rh pane - this is more logical and consistent, plus the width is resizeable. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: If you input Group Header in Muso it doesn't get stored anywhere else (in track tags or pushed to LMS) so you do run the risk of losing this metadata if you are prone to clearing your database regularly. For me my muso database IS my master though so I never do this - the LMS database is secondary (I'm much more likely to clear this). Since reading this comment I've been doing a bit of playing around with Muso, but am still scratching my head. If I edit the tracks in Muso, then only Muso seems to know about it, in other words the sync with LMS seems to be more of an import than a sync. Furthermore, after editing tracks/albums in Muso and performing a sync, I often get duplicate tracks, which I have to manually edit in Muso (or make the changes in the original files, rescan in LMS, clear the Muso database and re-sync). Also, if I allow Muso to automatically create Group Headers (from custom Opus tag) and then make changes to the original folder tags, I again get duplicate tracks after sync'ing. One useful thing that Muso has helped me do is to clarify my thoughts on tagging conventions and to cause me to make my tagging consistent, so I am making quite a lot of ad-hoc tag changes when I play an album that needs tag improvements. Since I use LMS from Squeezebox Touches and an iPod touch as well as from a Windows PC, I need to maintain the underlying LMS db as well. So it seems to me that the only approach I can use is to get the tagging correct in the underlying files, scan into LMS and then synch into Muso. If this affects tracks for which Muso has already created its own metadata, then I either have to manually delete the duplicates or clear the database and re-sync. Maybe I am being stupid and missing something, but if you are using Muso as the primary db, then surely you can't be using LMS directly from any devices? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
I have just been spending a bit more time getting to learn how to use Muso. For classical music fans, it really is the best (Windows) software I've seen. For the first time in a long time, a piece of software made me laugh (with joy) when I discovered the group tracks feature. Having ripped a load of CD's and used the name of the work as part of the title of each track, this now gives me a great display of the album. In addition, for multi-CD sets, I have now worked out how to group the CD's into one album, so now I can see works grouped within CDs within albums. Now the display looks just like it is on the CD insert (you would have thought this would be an obvious requirement, but most software only contemplates tracks within (single CD) albums!). Hurrah! So happy, I have whizzed off my 20 Euros straight away. Just one question relating to this: how are the track groups stored? I assume that the original music file and LMS db are unchanged and that Muso holds some meta-data somewhere, in which case is there a risk of losing it on clearing and re-loading the database (I have had to do this once as it seemed to fail to pick up some changes in the normal LMS sync)? Also, once the software is in a reasonably mature state, perhaps a little more user documentation would help people get the best out of it quicker? Many thanks. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Indeed, the CD insert appearance was what I was going for, with tracks grouped by work (via Group Heading) with a nice title above, and the track-listing also divided by disks if the meta-data includes this. If you input Group Header in Muso it doesn't get stored anywhere else (in track tags or pushed to LMS) so you do run the risk of losing this metadata if you are prone to clearing your database regularly. For me my muso database IS my master though so I never do this - the LMS database is secondary (I'm much more likely to clear this). However, the Group Heading CAN be fed from any custom tag on an LMS synch, so you can adopt the approach of defining these in your track's embedded tags, configuring them in the LMS custom tag plugin and pulling these across to Muso (into Group Heading). If there was a standard embedded tag ID for this I could also read it from a file-scan, but this isn't there yet. I have mapped my Opus custom tag to groupheading and that works fine, except that, because each of my tracks is structured like this - Opus : Movement, Muso recognises Opus as the group heading and correctly removes it from the title, but it leaves the colon mark at the beginning of the title (movement). If I set the groupheading within Muso rather than mapping it , then the colon disappears and everything looks OK. Another slight niggle is that the group heading doesn't seem to appear in the edit tracks listing. My Opus field is listed, but some way off to the right and there is no way I can see of re-ordering the columns. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Good ideas there. I'm 80% of the way there in code to getting the panes approach working so can release that early Jan for comparison. I think there are merits of both - who knows maybe ultimately I'll support both. In the case of the panes approach, I think that Foobar does it quite well. Each filter has an all option. This means that, for example, if I set up 3 filters: composer, opus(work), album and want a work by a particular composer then I can see what album(s) it is on; then if I select that album and select all works, it gives me all that composer's works on the album; if I select all composers it gives me everything on the album (assuming this is a compilation album). Muso currently operates differently in that in every case the item filtered is the album, not the collection of tracks; this is less flexible (although arguably simpler), but it is worth noting that without this flexibility, the full benefit of the panes approach cannot be realised. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
dutchronnie wrote: I am using Muso for a long time now, and i am very pleased with muso. I have a total of 65.000 flac files in the library., But now muso don't display the album art anymore. Some albums i see album art and other not. I know that i had album art before, and in the album folder there is a musocover.jpg i have updated to the lates muso version Why i dont see this album art? Am i doing something wrong? I have noticed that only full albums seem to have the artwork. Perhaps your definition of full albums has changed? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
LMS sync still working, so here are some comments on the beta version. I think it is a great improvement for classical music lovers. Personally, I like the hierarchical view, it does take up a lot less space than the panel type of view and the + signs for expansion are reasonably intuitive. It does limit you to 2 levels - whether this is an issue or not will become apparent after a bit more usage (personally I would be inclined to go for 3 levels). At present I use Custom Browse with dynamic menus which effectively allows infinite levels, but I think that this approach is overly complex. However, I am having some data/indexing problems. For example, I have a 3 CD box set of 5 Beethoven Piano Concertos by Alfred Brendel. The tags for this are as follows: Each track has the opus and movement information. The album has the Composer and opus information, e.g. Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 1 in C, Op. 15 (this is for display purposes on squeezebox touch). There are custom tags for Opus, CDName (e.g.Beethoven:The 5 Piano Concertos [Brendel Rattle], Disc 1), and Instrument (Piano). The genre is Concerto, which is listed in options as a classical genre. The custom tags are also declared in options. The tracks are stored in folders (one for each CD) along with the cover art. Using the EditID from dbpoweramp verifies that all the tags are consistent for every track and that the cover art is linked to all the tracks. Using custom browse, I can drill down by composer, genre, opus, instrument etc and consistently get to any of the concertos, complete with cover art. Foobar works similarly well (with the panel-style drill-down). In Muso 1.5, however, if I select composer under the hierarchy and click on the Beethoven node, I can see all 5 concertos shown as albums, but No.s 1-4 (Discs 1 2) have no artwork, whereas No. 5 does have artwork. If I then drill down by, say genre or instrument or Opus, then only No.5 appears - No.s 1-4 are not listed. If I select No.5, then the others are shown under more by this artist. If I go to edit tracks then no data inconsistencies are apparent, so it would seem to be something to do with how the hierarchies are being indexed. It seems to make no difference whether I sync with LMS or import the folders directly. Hope that is reasonably clear, but happy to explain further or run more tests. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Thanks will look into that after the holidays, but just to note you aren't restricted to just two levels. It's a bit clunky in this beta version but you have to RIGHT-click on the first level (i.e left-click on Hierarchical then right-click on the first level, eg. Composer) to open up a menu to fix the second level, right-click again on the second level to set a third, etc. Early January I'll release the panels mechanism rather than the tree which will I think be more intutuive. Thanks. I didn't spot the right-click option, but it is very neat. I'm not completely convinced about the panels approach - it is easy to use, but does take up much more space. The nice thing about the tree approach is that it leaves plenty of space to display all the album information and associated links. What is needed is just a slightly more intuitive way of describing the required hierarchy. I'll give it a bit of thought. Also, I think I have found the reason for the problem I had described: it seems to be to do with whether Muso considers the album to be a full album. In other words, albums that Muso does not consider to be full do not appear in the hierarchy, regardless of whether or not Full Albums is checked. By reducing the definition of full albums to, say 1 track and 10 mins, this problem goes away completely - i.e. all artwork appears and the albums appear in the hierarchy. A lot of classical music fans use album for each opus in order for players such as iTunes and Squeezebox to display the information when playing; this can make for quite short albums and multiple albums on each CD (and thus no. of tracks in album total no. of tracks). Hope that helps. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Ah, well the Full Albums checkbox should influence that, but it's entirely possible that with this beta version you may have to check Full Albums and THEN pick your hierarchy - it's not gone through rigorous testing yet. Whether or not full albums is checked (or the sequence of operation) seems to have no effect. Albums which are not full albums do not appear in the hierarchy, regardless. The work-round is to change the album qualification definition so that everything you want to appear in the hierarchy meets the definition of a full album. A thought on the hierarchy interface (tree method). How about: if you click on hierarchy, the pop-down lists any previously defined hierarchies (e.g. Genre-Composer) plus an option to Manage hierarchies The Manage hierarchies... option brings up a dialog box allowing new hierarchies to be defined or existing ones to be deleted. That way the tree structure can be maintained and the selection of hierarchies is very simple. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
Hi - I've just downloaded Muso and it looks great - a much better interface for Squeezebox/LMS than the standard skins. However, I have a slight problem. I am running LMS (v7.7) on a networked PC running XP, which I am linking to from my laptop running Muso. In the options (Music sources/LMS tab) I have set up the link to this LMS and tested the CLI which is fine. However, when I put the remote squeezbox .db location in (Z:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache) and test SQLite I get an error message: Connection Failed: Some kind of disk I/O error occurred. I have set the folder to be fully shared and can't think what else to try. The rest of the functionality works fine if I import the database from the music folder - it is just the synch'ing with the LMS database that doesn't work. It also works completely if I set it up to use LMS on the local (laptop). Any ideas, thanks? MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: It does sound like a permission problem, but you might try UnBinding and UnLocking the db via the buttons on the Options tab. If this doesn't affect it, please try downloading SQLite Studio and trying to open the remote library.db file: http://sqlitestudio.one.pl/index.rvt Already tried the unbinding / unlocking / restarting LMS etc. Opened the library.db in sqlite studio (from the laptop) with no problems. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: I have noticed this error occuring very occasionally, perhaps when the db is busy in some internal activity. I assume it does occur for you every time you test the connection? It has happened every time I have tried to test the connection - over a period of two days. I have checked the server activity - no scanning is happening and everything appears to be OK. The server seems to be working fine and the music plays (having used the import file function, rather than the Sync). MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Hmm OK. Do you have files with extension .db-wal in the same folder? Quite a few: library.db-wal etc. Also files with .db-shm extension. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
Now seems to be working - very odd as I didn't change anything. I'll keep an eye on it and update if it fails again. Meanwhile there seem to be some data inconsistencies arising from the sync which I am looking into. Thanks for the help. MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Disappearing custom browse menu
Thanks for all the help, Erland. Everything is now working again except for the browse by selected classical dynamic menu which I set up following the method at the end of your wiki on dynamic tags (menu type Dynamic Tags for Song). Selecting this item from within browse for selected gives the menu, but it appears (on SB Touch) to be empty (even after restarts and rescans). Selecting it on the web interface gives the song info, but no dynamic tags (and no errors). Overall, I am very pleased with the plugins - they really help to make Squeezebox work for classical music fans. I find it works best with the iPeng controller (if not using the web interface). If you set up to include composer in artists on the my music tab of the web interface, then iPeng shows composer as the artist. Also, iPeng can be set to play all songs when selecting the first in a list, which means, for example, that a work (or other custom tag) can be selected to be played as a whole. Using the Touch directly (or via remote) is less good since it displays the song list with no method to play all of them. Ideally, it would be nice if custom tags could be made to operate like albums on the Touch (with play options given by hitting +). -- MDE MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92023 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Disappearing custom browse menu
OK, I'll try that, but now for what may seem a really stupid question. How do I update Custom Scan from within the plugins manager? The only way I can see of updating it is to download and unzip manually. -- MDE MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92023 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Disappearing custom browse menu
Updated CS to latest version and that's working fine, thanks. Still a bit confused about how plugin updates now work - I removed the old folder from plugins folder and then re-installed from extensions manager. That worked, but now I don't see any CustomScan folder in the plugins folder. -- MDE MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92023 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Disappearing custom browse menu
erland;675372 Wrote: Assuming you are using a 7.4 or later release of SBS, plugin updates should appear in the SBS user interface under SBS Settings/Plugins and be shown on the top of the page. Plugins installed through SBS Settings/Plugins will be stored in Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins folder, you will find the location of the cache folder through SBS Settings/Information page. Plugin updates appear at the top of the page for some plugins (noticeably iplayer, which updates regularly), but did not appear for custom scan. Maybe this is because it was in not in the cache folder. Now that it is in the cache folder, hopefully updates will work. Presumably I need to do the same fix for custom browse and multi-library (i.e remove from plugins and re-install) to get these to show updates too? -- MDE MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92023 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Disappearing custom browse menu
I've had this problem too. I think it was resolved by doing a complete rescan (i.e. clear and rescan from scratch). I've just upgraded to the latest Custom versions, which have solved some problems I had since upgrading to LMS, but I still have another problem in that the matching custom tag menu item in my classical dynamic menu doesn't work (and gives SQL errors in the web interface). The menu was set up following the Setup_dynamic_menu_to_browse_music_by_tags wiki and worked at first, before upgrading. -- MDE MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92023 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Disappearing custom browse menu
I've managed to get the matching custom tag menu to re-appear, but only by setting Show albums after level and Show custom tags after level both equal to 4 (any other combination seems not to work). However selecting the menu item does not work and I now get a slightly different SQL error (but still ambiguous column name: module) which is posted below. The custom tag is CDNAME, since I use Album for the name of the work that I want to appear on the SB Touch now playing screen (combination of composer and opus for classical music). Error message follows, thanks. Error: Running: select customscan_track_attributes.extravalue,customscan_track_attributes.value,substr(customscan_track_attributes.valuesort,1,1),ifnull(customscan_track_attributes.valuetype,'mixedtagCDNAME'),customscan_track_attributes.valuetype from customscan_track_attributes join tracks on tracks.id=customscan_track_attributes.track and module='mixedtag' and attr='CDNAME' join customscan_track_attributes currentattr on tracks.id=currentattr.track and currentattr.module='mixedtag' and currentattr.attr='OPUS' and currentattr.extravalue='Bach: Magnificat' join multilibrary_track on tracks.id=multilibrary_track.track and multilibrary_track.library=3 where tracks.audio=1 group by customscan_track_attributes.extravalue order by customscan_track_attributes.valuesort got error: ambiguous column name: module -- MDE MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92023 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Disappearing custom browse menu
Today's log attached. There doesn't seem to be much there, to my untutored eye, other than the Using an array as a reference is deprecated. I have re-checked everything this morning and it all still seems to be as I described - i.e. the classical music menu is present and operating on the SB touch itself, but not on Squeezeplay, Web interface, iPeng or Squeezbox controller, even with the SB Touch selected as the player. It's as if the SB Touch has cached the menu from before it disappeared. If it helps, I'm also attaching the menu xml. Thanks +---+ |Filename: classicalmusicdynamicmixedtags.cb.values.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12816| +---+ -- MDE MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92023 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Disappearing custom browse menu
Obviously the Touch was caching - I did a hard restart and it lost the menu too. The work-round (which is quite easy since I have the xml) is to re-create the menu by hand and then delete the old one (moving the xml file in and out of the folder with restarts in between had no effect). Very strange behaviour, but at least I have my menus back. Thanks -- MDE MDE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92023 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
