Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Persistent mode did not solve my stuttering problem, Tidal on a receiver (plays on a touch fine). Doesn't happen that frequently, maybe 10% of the time. Back to the transcode on LMS, can we revisit which settings to alter?... ...or, I can just live with it, skipping to the next selection or a different album usually resolves it. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Redrum wrote: > @bpa, I played this track in persistent with a receiver synced with a > touch. No issues. I then turned persistent to "normal", restarted LMS, > and played the track again, and again it was fine. > > I think you are right that we experienced different abnormalities. Sorry > I could not be of any help replicating yours. Regarding mine, I think I > will leave my streaming in "normal" and see if I experience mine on a > specific song/album/sitation, see if I can replicate it, then switch to > persistent and see if it resolves. Yes. The problem I had would happen with the CORE32 based LMS (i.e. NXP i.MX6 ARM processor, 512Mb memory, custom RTOS PolyCORE) but not an Ubuntu LMS (i.e. iCore7 processor, 16Gb RAM). So I think memory allocated to network buffering is part of my issue. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
bpa wrote: > No. 2nd item in playlist "Classical at the movies" under > Genres/Classical. Also on Hifi Trial so no access to MQA. > > 36968 > > @bpa, I played this track in persistent with a receiver synced with a touch. No issues. I then turned persistent to "normal", restarted LMS, and played the track again, and again it was fine. I think you are right that we experienced different abnormalities. Sorry I could not be of any help replicating yours. Regarding mine, I think I will leave my streaming in "normal" and see if I experience mine on a specific song/album/sitation, see if I can replicate it, then switch to persistent and see if it resolves. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Redrum wrote: > I am wondering if we are hearing the same thing. I can't recall exact > tracks, but I have heard stutter on shorter tracks (say under 5min). > What I have heard can start immediately in the beginning of a song. I'm pretty sure it NOT hearing the same symptoms. The symptoms I heard 1. Somewhere mid track (usually after 5 mins) - player will skip to next track. 2. Skip a chunk in the middle of a track but not replaced by silence - as if a chunk of music was lost. 3. At end of track usually between last 45-15 secs - silence but time clock counts down at x secs to go, then at zero resets back to x secs to go and counts down again & again. With this issues, occasionally player may eventually progress to next track. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
bpa wrote: > No. 2nd item in playlist "Classical at the movies" under > Genres/Classical. Also on Hifi Trial so no access to MQA. > > Sorry I wasn't clear, I am on Hifi "Plus" Trial. I'll try this track later this morning. I am wondering if we are hearing the same thing. I can't recall exact tracks, but I have heard stutter on shorter tracks (say under 5min). What I have heard can start immediately in the beginning of a song. Having said all that, running persistent for about 3 hours yesterday - no problem. Since if was a Tidal assembled "playlist" it was all different media. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Redrum wrote: > was this the track you had problems with? No. 2nd item in playlist "Classical at the movies" under Genres/Classical. Also on Hifi Trial so no access to MQA. 36968 I think the main issue is the duration - it is 17 mins long. "Persistent Mode" solves similar problems for users with podcast (i.e. long continuous track). A secondary issue is probably encoding - which also affects the memory required for buffering (these are TCP/network buffers). I had problem often shortly after 5mins - perhaps with m4a track it might happen at 10-15mins. If that is the case probably a track longer than 25 mins would be needed. +---+ |Filename: RhapsodyinBlue.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36968| +---+ bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
bpa wrote: > Repeated test this morning. The Rhapsody in Blue track consistently had > problems on DAC32 using LMS on CORE32, no problem with DAC32 with LMS on > Ubuntu - LMS 8.2.1 version. Problems often started after about 5 min. > > No problems on CORE32 after Settings/Network/Streaming mode for HTTP(S) > set to "Persistent Mode" was this the track you had problems with? 36967 If so, I try later this morning, both normal and persistent (receiver and touch on pcP). To be clear, I am on a "HiFi" trial in case that's relevant. I wondered if this was related to tracks that are "Masters" (MQA - up to 24/96) but I believe I have played quite of few of these selections with no problems Jim +---+ |Filename: 2022-01-21 07_32_46-TIDAL.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36967| +---+ Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Repeated test this morning. The Rhapsody in Blue track consistently had problems on DAC32 using LMS on CORE32, no problem with DAC32 with LMS on Ubuntu - LMS 8.2.1 version. Problems often started after about 5 min. No problems on CORE32 after Settings/Network/Streaming mode for HTTP(S) set to "Persistent Mode" bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
bpa wrote: > Then tested with recent 8.3.0 on Ubuntu - same track - no issue with > Receiver or Muse. If the issues was only compression, this shouldn't be > the case. > > I'll try to test with 8.2.* on Ubuntu. Test of Muse & receiver with 8.2.1 on Ubuntu - no problems. So my issue is probably not compression. My problem track is 17min long which perhaps "forces" the problem on my smaller CORE32 system which short track avoid. I'll retest tomorrow to see if issue is reproducible as it was this evening. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
I've just been testing Tidal Flac with new Muse speaker on an CORE32 8.2.0 system (default File Types settings) and I got jumps and other issues with a track (Rhapsody in Blue 17min). Jumps and funny silent loop 45 sec before end. Problems were reproducible (i.e. no clean playback of track) and so I tested with Receiver and Squeezeamp - same sort of problems. Then tested with recent 8.3.0 on Ubuntu - same track - no issue with Receiver or Muse. If the issues was only compression, this shouldn't be the case. I'll try to test with 8.2.* on Ubuntu. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Redrum wrote: > Yes they are (Tidal -> FLAC). > > I was surprised when "persistent" was suggested (thank you again btw), > because the previous posts in this thread inferred the issue was the > inability of the receiver, et all, to handle the transcoding, so having > LMS do it was the answer. > > Having said that, I have streamed tidal for a few hours in persistent > and the receiver has not stuttered. But, it didn't happen all the time > anyhow...it seemed it could be media dependent. > > Jim If this is that compression problem, it is totally media dependent and some have been, for no reason, compressed using high ratio which uses blocking methods that are probably not implemented on older players. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
philippe_44 wrote: > Isnt that rather the issue with high compression rate of flac that does > not work well with SB3, diet and Boom? We added a forced transcode > option that plugins could set, but AFAIR, we activated it in Deezer > only. I might be wrong, but isnt tidal doing flac as well now ? Yes they are (Tidal -> FLAC). I was surprised when "persistent" was suggested (thank you again btw), because the previous posts in this thread inferred the issue was the inability of the receiver, et all, to handle the transcoding, so having LMS do it was the answer. Having said that, I have streamed tidal for a few hours in persistent and the receiver has not stuttered. But, it didn't happen all the time anyhow...it seemed it could be media dependent. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Isn’t that rather the issue with high compression rate of flac that does not work well with SB3, diet and Boom? We added a “forced transcode” option that plugins could set, but AFAIR, we activated it in Deezer only. I might be wrong, but isn’t tidal doing flac as well now ? Oh, that could be true, too... See https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/pull/466/files - but that's for TIDAL, not WiMP. TIDAL actually was the first of the "official" services to support FLAC. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
mherger wrote: > > You could have fooled me, understood. Sorry to be persistent, but I > was > > trying to resolve since 12/25 and there were "crickets" (not the > sport, > > bug noise) :) > > > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111370-Tidal-stutter-using-LMS=1041298=1#post1041298 > > Oops... sorry... I'm currently a bit busy - in between vacations :-). > > > I was familiar with persistent mode as a successor to reliable (for > > podcasts), but are you suggesting that this should address Tidal > stutter > > on only a receiver, rather than the transcoding via LMS as suggested > > earlier? > > Yes, I think so. There's no direct streaming anyway, as the players > don't support https. Isnt that rather the issue with high compression rate of flac that does not work well with SB3, diet and Boom? We added a forced transcode option that plugins could set, but AFAIR, we activated it in Deezer only. I might be wrong, but isnt tidal doing flac as well now ? LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
You could have fooled me, understood. Sorry to be persistent, but I was trying to resolve since 12/25 and there were "crickets" (not the sport, bug noise) :) https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111370-Tidal-stutter-using-LMS=1041298=1#post1041298 Oops... sorry... I'm currently a bit busy - in between vacations :-). I was familiar with persistent mode as a successor to reliable (for podcasts), but are you suggesting that this should address Tidal stutter on only a receiver, rather than the transcoding via LMS as suggested earlier? Yes, I think so. There's no direct streaming anyway, as the players don't support https. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Redrum wrote: > You could have fooled me, understood. Sorry to be persistent, but I was > trying to resolve since 12/25 and there were "crickets" (not the sport, > bug noise) :) > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111370-Tidal-stutter-using-LMS=1041298=1#post1041298 > > I was familiar with persistent mode as a successor to reliable (for > podcasts), but are you suggesting that this should address Tidal stutter > on only a receiver, rather than the transcoding via LMS as suggested > earlier? > > oops, I just looked, I was in normal mode, now how did that happen? > :confused: > > Thank you! > Jim Yes, that's what he is saying. Try the persistent mode (ignore my filetypes suggestions!) *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
mherger wrote: > > > I am... but sometimes I don't read in real time! > > You could have fooled me, understood. Sorry to be persistent, but I was trying to resolve since 12/25 and there were "crickets" (not the sport, bug noise) :) https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111370-Tidal-stutter-using-LMS=1041298=1#post1041298 I was familiar with persistent mode as a successor to reliable (for podcasts), but are you suggesting that this should address Tidal stutter on only a receiver, rather than the transcoding via LMS as suggested earlier? oops, I just looked, I was in normal mode, now how did that happen? :confused: Thank you! Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Right, that is what I was trying to get clarification on, what exactly is meant by "disable native FLAC playback" in Michael's message? I was hoping he was listening :) I am... but sometimes I don't read in real time! They quote garym posted already is outdated :-). Philippe subsequently did even more work to improve the streaming reliability. Please check Settings/Advanced/Networking where you'll find three options for the http streaming mode. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
garym wrote: > Also, in another thread, @mherger noted that he had "added a flag" to > LMS8 to solve stuttering. Where is this 'flag' setting in LMS > > Settings? Is that the "prefer native format (decode on player)" option > I mention in post above? Thanks. Right, that is what I was trying to get clarification on, what exactly is meant by "disable native FLAC playback" in Michael's message? I was hoping he was listening :) Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Also, in another thread, @mherger noted tht he had "added a flag" to LMS8 to solve stuttering. Where is this 'flag' setting in LMS > Settings? Thanks. > > I'm never sure about the alternatives when native flac gets disabled. > > This might be related to "type" I think standard flc rules "PCM" and > > "MP3" are just "F" and no "I". Maybe need to add the Flac PCM "I" to > > convert.conf > > I added the I flag to LMS8. You should be able to transcode to PCM, and > it certainly solved the stuttering for aforementioned tracks. Please > updated to the latest LMS8 build and disable native FLAC playback. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
mherger wrote: > > Could someone walk me through inserting a custom conf file in the > > appropriate place to solve this for me. > > The latest LMS8 should have the necessary changes which would allow you > to transcode to PCM. > > > -- > > Michael I'm not sure exactly what Michael is referring to here. I don't use Tidal, don't use a custom_convert, and use the default settings on filetype. But perhaps the answer is in the LMS > Settings > Advanced > Filetypes, the user would set FLAC to "disabled" instead of "native" and PCM to disabled. Not sure, but if that causes any issues, just set them back to FLAC > native and PCM > FLAC. You won't break anything trying. See picture.(other thoughts are useful from someone more knowledgeable about this). 36944 +---+ |Filename: Capture.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36944| +---+ *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Redrum wrote: > I read a variety of posts in two threads on this and hope someone can > summarize a solution. > > I am new to Tidal, trying a tidal hi-fi+ trial. I am running 8.2.0 - > 1627922070 > > I have been running a few tidal "mixes" on a touch synced with a > receiver. Occasionally a song song will stutter, primarily on the > receiver, but the sync might trip up the touch a bit. It's the typical > strawberry jam on the CD sound. > > my current solution is just to skip to the next track. > > Best way to address? Saying "ditch the receiver" is an acceptable > solution :) Perhaps the fix is in 8+ but it a setting I have to tweak? > > Jim Sorry to bump this. I am having tidal stuttering on a receiver, touches play fine. I am assuming that I have to change a setting in LMS (per one of Michael's previous posts), and am guessing that it's on settings->advanced->file types, but I am unclear what the change? There are alot of buttons and knobs on this page. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
mherger wrote: > > Could someone walk me through inserting a custom conf file in the > > appropriate place to solve this for me. > > The latest LMS8 should have the necessary changes which would allow you > > to transcode to PCM. > > > -- > > Michael I read a variety of posts in two threads on this and hope someone can summarize a solution. I am new to Tidal, trying a tidal hi-fi+ trial. I am running 8.2.0 - 1627922070 I have been running a few tidal "mixes" on a touch synced with a receiver. Occasionally a song song will stutter, primarily on the receiver, but the sync might trip up the touch a bit. It's the typical strawberry jam on the CD sound. my current solution is just to skip to the next track. Best way to address? Saying "ditch the receiver" is an acceptable solution :) Perhaps the fix is in 8+ but it a setting I have to tweak? Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
callesoroe wrote: > I had that issue too. I am using Tidal with LMS. It seems like some > tracks after about March 2019 is getting compressed at too high level. > Many squeezebox devices don't like that, and make stuttering sound. I > fixed this using SOX to transcode. > Make a custom-convert.conf file containing this: > > flc flc * * > [sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t flac - > > That solved the problem for me. Worked for me. Many thanks. mcgeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=204 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Kevmil55 wrote: > I think that's done it. Although has this downgraded the quality of the > file I'm hearing in any way? > > Thanks a Million if not! > > Kev won't change quality. The file was always being converted to PCM to play, it is just now it is being converted to PCM at the server side rather than the player side. *Home:* VBA2.5 4TB -or- rPi4B/pCP6.1/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B/pCP6.1/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet except Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dbpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
sota748 wrote: > Another solution in this 'tread' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112300-Attention-TIDAL-users-changes-ahead!/page33) > from p33 middel and forward > I use that and no stutter more I think that's done it. Although has this downgraded the quality of the file I'm hearing in any way? Thanks a Million if not! Kev Kevmil55's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70861 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Could someone walk me through inserting a custom conf file in the appropriate place to solve this for me. The latest LMS8 should have the necessary changes which would allow you to transcode to PCM. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Kevmil55 wrote: > Could someone walk me through inserting a custom conf file in the > appropriate place to solve this for me. Another solution in this 'tread' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112300-Attention-TIDAL-users-changes-ahead!/page33) from p33 middel and forward I use that and no stutter more Dan RPI newbie sota748's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
callesoroe wrote: > Hi > > First you can try to see if changing sound settings to "Stream through > Proxy" does the trick. If not you can create the custom-convert file as > described. It shall be placed here : > > 29148 Could someone walk me through inserting a custom conf file in the appropriate place to solve this for me. Many Thanks Kevmil55's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70861 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
CJS wrote: > Are you playing Tidal AAC streams? I'm playing FLAC (I think) as I have a TIDAL HiFi account. Not all TIDAL content exhibits this problem, just some. The stuttering seems to happen at the same places(s) in the affected tracks on each play. For example at the start of My Own Soul's Warning by The Killers. This shows as 1059kbps 44.1kHz, FLAC. While the stuttering is happening, the LMS Server (an HP Microserver) shows less than 10% CPU usage. I have tried with wifi and wired connection to both the Booms and the Duet with the same results. The Pi plays great just using its on board wifi. I have tried the custom-convert.conf mod using sox (although I'm not exactly sure what that does) and that fixes the stuttering, but I can't use that because it stops me from being able to fast forward within tracks. bitsubatsu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
bitsubatsu wrote: > I also found that I experienced stuttering with some TIDAL content. I > have 3 Booms and a Duet, and all had the same problem with some tracks. > I recently set up a Raspberry Pi with PiCorePlayer 6.1.0 and a HiFiBerry > Dac+ Pro to see if that made any difference and lo and behold the tracks > that stutter when playing on the Booms/Duet do not stutter on the Pi. Are you playing Tidal AAC streams? Reason for asking is that the Boom and AFAIK also the Duet cannot play AAC streams natively, while piCorePlayer 6.1.0 can. When playing Tidal AAC streams on the Booms and the Duet, transcoding from AAC to FLAC (or MP3) is done on LMS, while pCP does not need transcoding. So the stutter that you experience with Booms and Duet may have something to do with the transcoding. Possible explanations may be that the hardware on which LMS runs is not powerfull enough, or that the bandwidth of the Wifi connection is not sufficient for reliable streaming of FLAC streams. | LMS 8.0 | Squeezebox Boom | RPi0W + pCP 6.1.0 + HiFiBerry DAC Zero | SqueezeAMP | CJS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
I also found that I experienced stuttering with some TIDAL content. I have 3 Booms and a Duet, and all had the same problem with some tracks. I recently set up a Raspberry Pi with PiCorePlayer 6.1.0 and a HiFiBerry Dac+ Pro to see if that made any difference and lo and behold the tracks that stutter when playing on the Booms/Duet do not stutter on the Pi. bitsubatsu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
You can add an "I" to have both LOCAL/TIDAL working (TIDAL from STDIN). *Caveat*: LOCAL will allow "search", but Tidal won't. Could you please try with the very latest LMS8 nightly build? The logs say something about "wimp://" so these mechanics should go somewhere else. WiMP (yes!) was the music service developed in Norway before it got a new American management, which decided to rename it to TIDAL before going international, for obvious reasons :-) -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
PiF wrote:
> AH! BEWARE!
>
> My above workaround has shown the issue that Tidal Plugin did stop
> working with that :(
> Will need to find another workaround that do match in all cases.
You can add an "I" to have both LOCAL/TIDAL working (TIDAL from STDIN).
*Caveat*: LOCAL will allow "search", but Tidal won't.
As in:
Code:
flc flc * *
# IFT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
[flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ -
Not sure what's being done behind the curtain.
STDIN would imply that someone else orders the "search/skip" from Tidal,
and [flac]/[sox] break because STDIN is killed.
But who?
The logs say something about "wimp://" so these mechanics should go
somewhere else.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
PiF wrote: > > As sox isn't able to cut out subsections of a file this fix uses flac > itself to re-encode the data. > AH! BEWARE! My above workaround has shown the issue that Tidal Plugin did stop working with that :( Will need to find another workaround that do match in all cases. PiF's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70191 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
callesoroe wrote:
> I had that issue too. I am using Tidal with LMS. It seems like some
> tracks after about March 2019 is getting compressed at too high level.
> Many squeezebox devices don't like that, and make stuttering sound. I
> fixed this using SOX to transcode.
> Make a custom-convert.conf file containing this:
>
> flc flc * *
> [sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t flac -
>
> That solved the problem for me.
Thanks for the workaround to re-encode the flac files, that worked well
and eleminated the stuttering for me :)
There is just one side effect, I wasn't able to play a subsection of a
flac file anymore.
In my use case this means I have single flac files that contains a
complete album or livesets. Additional files with cue sheets are used to
navigate to each song individually. With the above fix I wasn't able to
play a specific song anymore, instead squeezebox server stopped playing
and I got bored with silence.
So I have adopted the re-encoding fix to allow playing of subsections
again:
Code:
flc flc * *
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
[flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ -
As sox isn't able to cut out subsections of a file this fix uses flac
itself to re-encode the data.
I didn't measure if flac might costs more CPU cycles compared to sox ;)
have phun
Phil
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
didjean wrote: > Yes, I have created a custom-convert.conf with Notepad++, copy pasted > the code; saved it and dropped it in the folder, restarted the server, > it didn't work. Of course, I am not sure if the file is set up 100% ok. > > By any chance is there any library of custom-convert files available > somewhere? Try to write the code line in notepad++ . NOT copy paste. As I mentioned. I did experience strange things, when it was not coded as a linux file. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter - Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Guestroom: Touch - Bencmark DAC1, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
didjean wrote: > Yes, I have created a custom-convert.conf with Notepad++, copy pasted > the code; saved it and dropped it in the folder, restarted the server, > it didn't work. Of course, I am not sure if the file is set up 100% ok. > > By any chance is there any library of custom-convert files available > somewhere? I don't think there is a library. The custom-convert.conf file is only meant to contain changes from convert.conf file. I don't know Max2Play so maybe it is related to this, since it don't work for you. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter - Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Guestroom: Touch - Bencmark DAC1, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
callesoroe wrote: > You have changed the name to custom-convert.conf ??? Is the convert.conf > in the same folder ?? I don't if Max2Play works different... It works on > both LMS on Netgear ReadyNas and Picoreplayer. Regarding the stream to > your Transporter. I have two Transporters and there > is no change in sound quality using SOX. Just better as there is no > stuttering anymore Yes, I have created a custom-convert.conf with Notepad++, copy pasted the code; saved it and dropped it in the folder, restarted the server, it didn't work. Of course, I am not sure if the file is set up 100% ok. By any chance is there any library of custom-convert files available somewhere? Transporter, Cambridge Audio 651R + Q Acoustics Concept 40 --- Touch + Onkyo TX-SR309 + Morel Applause MKII --- SB2, SB3, Duet, 2 Booms, 7 Radios --- Ipeng & Material --- LMS 7.9.3 - 1579448956 on Pi4 4GB - Max2Play --- Qobuz didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
didjean wrote: > Thx very very much! > > Unfortunately the approach is too geeky for me :-) Have found the > location on Max2Play (\etc\squeezeboxserver), have followed the steps > above and doesn't seem to work yet. > > Have plenty of questions linked to this custom file: how can I check if > the file is being taken into account? Would I see it via the "more info" > e.g. less kbps? Or I need to check in logs > > I understand SOX still lossless? But would like to make sure I get the > stream untouched for my Transporter. Is it possible to assign this to a > player only e.g. a Boom? You have changed the name to custom-convert.conf ??? Is the convert.conf in the same folder ?? I don't if Max2Play works different... It works on both LMS on Netgear ReadyNas and Picoreplayer. Regarding the stream to your Transporter. I have two Transporters and there is no change in sound quality using SOX. Just better as there is no stuttering anymore Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter - Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Guestroom: Touch - Bencmark DAC1, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
callesoroe wrote: > As you are on a Linux OS, I will recommend using notepad++ and use these > settings, as recommended from Paul. I had some strange issues because I > used notepad in windows to create the file. > > Here what Paul wrote to me: > > "Try editing with Notepad++ (download it) not notepad. > Then check the setting for Line Endings for the file and set it to Unix > (not Windows) and the format to be ANSI/ASCII not Utf-8 and not with a > BOM (will be clear from the menus)." > > Then place the file in the folder. That should work. Thx very very much! Unfortunately the approach is too geeky for me :-) Have found the location on Max2Play (\etc\squeezeboxserver), have followed the steps above and doesn't seem to work yet. Have plenty of questions linked to this custom file: how can I check if the file is being taken into account? Would I see it via the "more info" e.g. less kbps? Or I need to check in logs I understand SOX still lossless? But would like to make sure I get the stream untouched for my Transporter. Is it possible to assign this to a player only e.g. a Boom? Transporter, Cambridge Audio 651R + Q Acoustics Concept 40 --- Touch + Onkyo TX-SR309 + Morel Applause MKII --- SB2, SB3, Duet, 2 Booms, 7 Radios --- Ipeng & Material --- LMS 7.9.3 - 1579448956 on Pi4 4GB - Max2Play --- Qobuz didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
didjean wrote: > Thanks for your answer! I tried the Proxy options already but for the > Boom, it didn't change a thing. I'll have a look on my Pi/Max2Play and > try to find that folder. Last time I had a look, I found a convert file > but in another folder... > > Regarding the custom file, 2 questions: > - do I only need to create a notepad file with the code inside: > > flc flc * * > [sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t flac - > > - I understand that * could be replaced with the type of player, right? > And if yes how shall I do that (mac address? Type of player?), knowing I > would like to apply conversation to my Radios and Booms only. > > Thx!! As you are on a Linux OS, I will recommend using notepad++ and use these settings, as recommended from Paul. I had some strange issues because I used notepad in windows to create the file. Here what Paul wrote to me: "Try editing with Notepad++ (download it) not notepad. Then check the setting for Line Endings for the file and set it to Unix (not Windows) and the format to be ANSI/ASCII not Utf-8 and not with a BOM (will be clear from the menus)." Then place the file in the folder. That should work. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter - Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Guestroom: Touch - Bencmark DAC1, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
callesoroe wrote: > Hi > > First you can try to see if changing sound settings to "Stream through > Proxy" does the trick. If not you can create the custom-convert file as > described. It shall be placed here : > > 29148 Thanks for your answer! I tried the Proxy options already but for the Boom, it didn't change a thing. I'll have a look on my Pi/Max2Play and try to find that folder. Last time I had a look, I found a convert file but in another folder... Regarding the custom file, 2 questions: - do I only need to create a notepad file with the code inside: flc flc * * [sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t flac - - I understand that * could be replaced with the type of player, right? And if yes how shall I do that (mac address? Type of player?), knowing I would like to apply conversation to my Radios and Booms only. Thx!! Transporter, Cambridge Audio 651R + Q Acoustics Concept 40 --- Touch + Onkyo TX-SR309 + Morel Applause MKII --- SB2, SB3, Duet, 2 Booms, 7 Radios --- Ipeng & Material --- LMS 7.9.3 - 1579448956 on Pi4 4GB - Max2Play --- Qobuz didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
I'm also having this issue with stuttering and jittering sound from Tidal, but going through mysqueezebox.com (using FLAC). It appears only with newer albums or tracks, and I first noticed the problem sometime beginning of 2019. Strangely enough it does not happen with all tracks from newer albums - sometimes it is hardly noticable and sometimes tracks will just stutter really badly. It's happening a lot more frequently with new albums. Will I need to give up my squeeebox? Can we expect Tidal to survive in squeezebox, or is it simply passing due date slowly with Tidals updates to their encoding...?? Is anyone looking into this? Anyone knows what is going on? -- Daniel daniellj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61845 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
didjean wrote: > Hi guys, > > It seems I have the same issue with Qobuz on some of my Players - Radio > and Boom, with suttering and rebuffering (see > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111474-Qobuz-Dropouts=961183=1#post961183). > I would like to try the custom-config solution but how do I proceed? > Where is this config file located? > > Thx for the help ;-) Hi First you can try to see if changing sound settings to "Stream through Proxy" does the trick. If not you can create the custom-convert file as described. It shall be placed here : 29148 +---+ |Filename: custom-convert.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29148| +---+ Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter - Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Guestroom: Touch - Bencmark DAC1, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
Hi guys, It seems I have the same issue with Qobuz on some of my Players - Radio and Boom, with suttering and rebuffering (see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111474-Qobuz-Dropouts=961183=1#post961183). I would like to try the custom-config solution but how do I proceed? Where is this config file located? Thx for the help ;-) Transporter, Cambridge Audio 651R + Q Acoustics Concept 40 --- Touch + Onkyo TX-SR309 + Morel Applause MKII --- SB2, SB3, Duet, 2 Booms, 7 Radios --- Ipeng & Material --- LMS 7.9.3 - 1579195498 on Pi4 4GB - Max2Play --- Qobuz didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
bpa wrote: > If you edit convert.conf file then any changes in the file will be lost > after LMS update whereas custom-convert.conf will be kept after an LMS > update. Many thanks to both of you. I've created a custom-convert.conf file containing the text suggested by callesoroe. That has solved the problem. jazzguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12152 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
callesoroe wrote: > OR > > you can edit the convert.conf file : If you edit convert.conf file then any changes in the file will be lost after LMS update whereas custom-convert.conf will be kept after an LMS update. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
callesoroe wrote: > I had that issue too. I am using Tidal with LMS. It seems like some > tracks after about March 2019 is getting compressed at to high level. > Many squeezebox devices don't like that, and make stuttering sound. I > fixed this using SOX to transcode. > Make a custom-convert.conf file containing this: > > flc flc * * > [sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t flac - > > That solved the problem for me. OR you can edit the convert.conf file : 28872 +---+ |Filename: 2019-12-30 13_12_32-C__Program Files (x86)_Squeezebox_server_convert.conf - Notepad++.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28872| +---+ Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter - Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Guestroom: Touch - Bencmark DAC1, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
jazzguy wrote: > I'm getting stuttering on some, but not all, music streamed from TIDAL. > I think the problem is LMS. > > I'm using LMS 7.9.2 on a Windows 10 PC, streaming to three SB Classics. > My internet connection is stable and is adequate for music and video > streaming (36 mbps). > > I'm trying to stream TIDAL hi-fi content i.e CD quality in FLAC. I > encounter no stuttering at all when streaming from Quobuz (CD quality > also). > > To try and identify the problem, I've listened to the same music from > TIDAL on my PC - there is no stuttering. I've also streamed TIDAL from > my Samsung tablet (via bluetooth) to an ARCAM IR DAC connected to my > main hi-fi system. Again there is no stuttering (although the music > sounds somewhat tinny compared to streaming through LMS with its wi-fi > connection). > > Is there an adjustment I can make to LMS to get over this stuttering? > Many thanks. I had that issue too. I am using Tidal with LMS. It seems like some tracks after about March 2019 is getting compressed at to high level. Many squeezebox devices don't like that, and make stuttering sound. I fixed this using SOX to transcode. Make a custom-convert.conf file containing this: flc flc * * [sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t flac - That solved the problem for me. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter - Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Guestroom: Touch - Bencmark DAC1, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stutter using LMS
doctor_big wrote: > Stutter as in buffering? > > Sent from my SM-G975W using Tapatalk Not buffering. The music jitters and judders as if it's having difficulty with peaks of volume or frequency. My impression is that TIDAL is trying to send lots of data some of which is being choked off. jazzguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12152 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111370 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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