Re: jerry curry vs. portland

1999-03-02 Thread Lianne McNeil

I've been off in some "never-never land" and have not been reading P2 for awhile,
but I woke up long enough to notice this:

At 02:53 PM 3/2/99 -0800, Jerry wrote:
...
Let's see, no traditional country scene, that's particularly disappointing
when I read about the stuff Honky Tonk Confidential is doing.  Small
bluegrass community.  Horrible radio.  Perhaps our Low Power FM project
will help ease that Jones.

Yes, I knowmove back East, East Tennessee boy.  I hear ya.
I do like it here though and really wasn't trying to slag the entire
scene at all.  The sheer number of quality clubs never ceases to amaze.
Need an acoustic, singer-songwriter place to hang on though.

I'd prefer being neck deep in the Nashville or Austin scene than up here.
Those scenes just offer more opportunity to enjoy the kind of music I
really enjoy than Portland.  I'm most certainly NOT knocking Portland
for developing musical directions that differ from my own interests.  It's
a truly wonderful area (to visit...g).  And to live.

Well, Jerry, I think you're partly right.  The Portland music scene excels in
other areas than P2-ish type of music, IMHO.  I do believe the good stuff
is there -- you just have to dig for it.  (And I haven't done a huge amount
of digging, I admit.) There's not much traditional country here. (I can give 
you a names a couple of traditional country bar bands that are reasonably 
decent, if that would be of interest to you.)

If you're bored with the alt country music, why not try Portland's jazz?
I've been working at KMHD about once a week, and I've got to tell you that
there's some really great jazz stuff out there in Portland.  (For example:
Stan Boch is probably the best trombone player you'll've ever heard.  I love 
it when he's on the show!)  Last week there was no Home Grown Jazz live show,
but the week before, it was a great group, Groove Revelation, that blended jazz 
and rock into a rather fascinating sound.  The week before that was the Portland
State University Jazz Band, and they were great.  If you're interested, check 
out the schedule at http://www4.kmhd.org/kmhd/music/specialty.html  (The show 
plays at 4 PM on Saturdays on 89.1 FM, or they simultaneously broadcast it on the 
web site via streaming audio. I'll try not to make any serious audio boo-boos 
this week!)

But for something more country-ish, I suggest you check out Dave Carter  Tracy 
Grammer.  I heard them at PSA (Portland Songwriters Association) and again 6
weeks ago at the Greg Brown concert in Corvallis.  I'd say they're sort of
country-singersongwriter-folk blend.  IMHO, their faults are that some of Dave's
songs are too "redneck," and sometimes, too "new age" (in subject matter).  But 
they have a real nice acoustic sound and their voices blend wonderfully.  Tracy 
plays fiddle, mandolin and more, and she has a beautiful voice; and Dave does banjo 
and guitar and has an OK voice.  I've got their cd if you want to hear it...  

Back to hibernating...
Lianne




Re: K.D. Lang

1999-02-05 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 01:16 PM 2/5/99 EST, Slim wrote:
In a message dated 2/5/99 12:10:09 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Frankly, I don't believe that soliciting homosexual sex for drugs is quite
 the same thing as being a homosexual...) 

According to the report, Herndon had a baggie of crystal meth that he offered
to share with the cop before they did whatever it is that two men do together.

Oh?  Interesting.  I have only had second or third-hand reports on the incident, 
so from all that I read I had gotten the impression he was trying to GET drugs.

Lianne



Re: Line-d@#*@

1999-01-22 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 07:25 PM 1/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
Stuart
who promised the missus he'd start on the taxes tonight

No wonder you're so verbose!  g



Re: why we hate line-dancing

1999-01-22 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 02:43 PM 1/22/99 -0600, Bob wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Tom Smith wrote:
 radio.  Furthermore, they don't drink much, which has led to 
 the scene being half the size it was 5 years ago (clubowners 
 are going to put up with that low profit margin for only so 
 long).

This isn't just line dancers, though. Johnny D's in Boston has swing
dancing on Sunday and Monday nights (and had Cajun dancing on Monday
nights for years) and charged a pretty high cover because most of both of
those crowds drink only water.

Yes -- drinking and dancing don't mix very well.  (My observations 
have been that after 2 beers a person is a dance floor hazard.  I
think that's why most dancers seem to stick to non-alcoholic drinks.)  
So if they are offering dancing at the clubs they need to plan on 
making their profit some other way, such as cover charges or higher 
drink prices (including for water) or whatever works.

Lianne



Re: RIP Charles Brown

1999-01-22 Thread Lianne McNeil

Charles Brown Passes

Well, that's sad.  He was "too young" to die already!  I saw him in 
concert in that 1995 Bonnie Raitt tour -- glad I did.  I loved the
way he played the piano!

Lianne
np:  Road Tested (the live album from that tour) 



Re: why we hate line-dancing

1999-01-22 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 03:54 PM 1/22/99 +, you wrote:
Lianne:
 Yes -- drinking and dancing don't mix very well.

Ummm, except in Texas, where drinking and dancing are both 
obligatory, preferably at the same timeg.  Thank god for Texas. 

--junior

And here I always thought Texans were polite, good dancers!  g

Lianne



Re: Just a thought!

1999-01-22 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 04:41 AM 1/23/99 -0500, Fred forwarded:
The people who started college this year were born in 1980.
 ...
 Do you feel old now?  Remember, the people who don't know
 these things are in college this year, and get to vote knowledgeably
 about your future.

It's alright.  When we were 18 there would have been equally as
scary long lists of things that we didn't know or hadn't experienced
then, too.  My son was born in '81, turns 18 this Spring, and has 
made his share of youthful mistakes, but on the whole I trust him to 
help take care of my future.  He's a good boy.  His friends are 
good boys.  Maybe they're in the minority... but I doubt it.

Lianne
(Wondering who writes these things, anyway.  I saw a similar one a
couple of years ago, when my daughter entered college.)



Re: Americana guesswork/line-d@#*@

1999-01-21 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 08:55 AM 1/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
this is an old discussion, so I brought up my old answer. you've seen it
before, but because I am holding the baby (baby says goo- i think that
means hi) i will repost this. 

Sorry Jeff, joking or not, you are just wrong about this.  

Reading all these anti-line dance rants reminds me of our parents 
(or grandparents, for some of you) who claimed that rock music was the 
devil's music.  You're sounding like a bunch of narrow-minded 
fuddy-duddies... Republican, even.

There are many forms of dance, and only a few of them involve cuddling
with your partner or flirting.  Those who define dance as only being 
those dance forms that require a partner have a very limited (and 
ignorant) view of dancing. Line dancing is similar to Broadway 
choreography, but whether or not you dance on Broadway has no bearing 
on the goodness or "badness" of line dance.  It's also similar to ethnic folk dance.  
I suppose you think that those guys dancing in "Fiddler on 
the Roof" aren't really dancing?!

If you don't see any individual expression/interpretation in line
dancing then you need to get out more, or else need to start paying
more attention. I'm sure there are some clubs where the dancers
perform like robots.  But most dancers who have progressed beyond
beginner's level tend to dance with "character."

The truth about LineDancing

...Is that it became very popular with people who got tired of waiting 
for partners to ask them to dance.  (What a bunch of lamers, those
"cowboys" bellied up to the bar!)

Lianne



Re: Fwd: [merlehaggard] VIRUS

1999-01-20 Thread Lianne McNeil

Shoot, even Haggard fans succumb to the gullibility virus!  g

See http://www.gtii.com/gtii/nuhoaxes.html for a humorous, relevant 
article. 

Lianne



Re: Americana guesswork

1999-01-20 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 06:39 PM 1/20/99 -0700, you wrote:
At 08:10 PM 1/20/1999 EST, LindaRay wrote:
I would just like to say that I do not understand what everybody has against line 
dancing.  I think it's a lot of fun.

Two-stepping, too.  Brings back fond memories of a sawdust covered floor in a bitty 
roadhouse with a jukebox outside Pinetop, AZ, circa 1970.

LR

Thank you, Linda!  I'm not overly fond of line dancing myself, but
I do enjoy some of them.  And the people I know who do it are great
people and fun to be with.  

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that place burned to the ground last
year in the middle of a packed floor lining up for "achy breaky heart".
Luckly, the only casualty was Billie Ray. 

Gong! (bad joke) g  The Achy Breaky Heart line dance went out of
fashion about 5 years ago.  And contrary to popular "opinion," Billy
Ray was not the originator of line dancing.  (Ex: The Electric Slide has
been around so long... it was probably being danced before Billy Ray
Cyrus was even born.)  g

Lianne



Re: Used CDs

1999-01-15 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 07:59 AM 1/15/99 -0600, Bill Lavery wrote:
I believe that there are no royalties paid on the 'come on' offers, the
buy ten for the price of one.  Royalties paid for the rest.  Now I don't
know if it is at the same rate.

I had hesitated to join a record club because I thought no royalties 
were paid.  But someone on rmcw who seemed knowledgeable told me that
royalties ARE paid on record club cds, though they are less than on
the ones sold in stores.

I just did a Deja News search to see if I could find that post, and
found some more current ones that spelled it out more thoroughly.
These posts were from the author of the CD Club FAQ; and in the FAQ
section about ethics:  http://www.blooberry.com/cdfaq/ethical.htm
he cites as his source:  Billboard Magazine ("Record Clubs: An Inside 
Look At An Evolving Enterprise", 30 March 1996.)

The FAQ also states:
"...generally an artist will receive no royalties for CDs sold as 
"free or bonus" selections and only one-half their normal royalty rate 
for CDs sold as full priced selections. (see Shemel, Syndey. "This 
Business of Music". 1990. 61)" 

Lianne



OT: Spam and e-mail addresses (was Re: Query:Archive this list?)

1999-01-14 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 06:35 AM 1/14/99 -0800, Stuart wrote:
You can get free email accounts all over the place now of course, which
is one solution to this.  And I can see where spam might be a problem, although to 
date, I've really never had much of problem.  Once in a 
while something comes through.  And since I'm not at all cautious 
about leaving my email address around the planet, I don't understand 
why I don't get more, while Mark Wyatt is apparently on every porn 
mailer in the U.S. and Denmark.

The key to receiving spam, it seems, is to post to newsgroups with an unmunged e-mail 
address.  I inadvertently did that a few weeks ago and 
now my spam quotient is up from once or twice a week to once or twice 
a day.

But as I understand it, the spam-bots have also been scanning web sites
for valid e-mail addresses... so I, too, don't want my e-mail address
available on a web site where anyone can get ahold of it.

Also, sometimes when you visit a web site they're using tools that
can find your address and other information about you, and later may 
send you unsolicited e-mail...

If you want to see what web sites are able to find out about you
when you visit, click here:  http://www.consumer.net/analyze/
See also http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy
This anonymous web surfing site tells some of the same information:
http://www.anonymizer.com/cgi-bin/snoop.pl
And for another revealing look (about security)... 
http://www.coriolis.com/webpsychos/wpfiles.htm

Lianne