RE: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-04 Thread BARNARD

Jon: 
 I dunno about that quite recent - Dudley's hit was in '63 - but I'm sure
 lots of American bands were performing it.

Ah, in my head I had '66 as a date for Dudley's hit, oh well.  And yes, of
course I was talking about "crossover" performances for rock audiences...

--junior



RE: Move over Blodwyn Pig, Here comes Dave Dudley..

1999-02-04 Thread Matt Benz



 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Weisberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 I dunno about that quite recent - Dudley's hit was in '63 - but I'm
 sure
 lots of American bands were performing it.
 
 Oh, you meant American *rock* bands g.
 
Tho I'm sure more country bands than rock bands in the mid 60's
covered Dave Dudley, I'd also argue that Dudley's versions of both 6DOTR
and Truck Drivin Son of A Gun have little to do with country musically,
and alot to do with rock and roll, once again muddying the country
waters...

I'll stand on the proverbial coffee table in Jeremy Tepper's
living room and say that.

Matt, longtime Dave Dudley Appreciation Society member   





RE: Move over Blodwyn Pig, Here comes Dave Dudley..

1999-02-04 Thread Matt Benz



  I'll stand on the proverbial coffee table in Jeremy Tepper's
  living room and say that.
 
 Geez, how many other coffee tables does he have in there?
 
[Matt Benz]  Well, aside from the Proverbial, which is actually
neo-Proverbial, he has a nice Colonial in dark Cherry.. 



Blodwyn Pig (was Re: Now Enrolling)

1999-02-03 Thread Jim_Caligiuri

Old Tom writes:Good grief! What's the deal on that live one?

I don't have it with me, but i think it's a UK import that I found used for
cheap. Sound quality is fair, but I thought it was an interesting pick up
for the price. A Head Rings Out was definitely one of my faves of the 70's
and not just cos of the pig's head on the cover. g
Jim, smilin'




Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread stuart



Ph. Barnard wrote:

 Ooooh!!!
  I don't have it with me, but i think it's a UK import that I found used for
  cheap. Sound quality is fair, but I thought it was an interesting pick up
  for the price. A Head Rings Out was definitely one of my faves of the 70's
  and not just cos of the pig's head on the cover. g

 Oh man, I *loved* Blodwyn Pig!!  Alas, last I heard, the great Mick
 Abrahams was driving a bread truck g.  Such is glory A Head
 Rings out was a very cool album indeed.  I'd love to hear it again.

 You can see Mick Abrahams, of course, in the Stones' Rock n' Roll
 Circus video, back when he was the first guitarist for the dreaded
 Jethro Tull (yuck!).  He was only on their very first album, but that
 still leaves a bad taste in my mouth thinking about it!!

 Phew, what a blast from the past!
 --junior

  Yes yes yes.  I've been looking for a head rings out for years, since my
original disappeared (I blame a certain Carbondale junkie).  I loved Abrahams
mixed with that guy who played two saxaphones at once.  The first Tull album is
actually pretty good, mainly because of Abrahams doing a kind of blues meets Wes
Montgomery thing as I recall. Havent heard it in years.  I recall finding an
aritcle about Abrahams somewhere on the web.  He apparantly has some newer stuff
out on some little indy lable in England or something.  Cant remember exactly,
but I was probably searching for Blodwyn Pig records.

Stuart



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread Jon E. Johnson

Junior writes:

You can see Mick Abrahams, of course, in the Stones' Rock n' Roll 
Circus video, back when he was the first guitarist for the dreaded 
Jethro Tull (yuck!).  He was only on their very first album, but that 
still leaves a bad taste in my mouth thinking about it!! 

 Um...that's actually Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi on guitar with Tull
in the Circus; his only performance with the group during his infamous
2-week stint with the group.
--Jon Johnson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Wollaston, Massachusetts



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread BARNARD

Omigod

Jon tells me:

  Um...that's actually Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi on guitar with Tull
 in the Circus; his only performance with the group during his infamous
 2-week stint with the group.

Good lord...g.  I always assumed that had to be Mick A.!!  I'm gonna
rent and watch it tomorrow to see.  All I can say is, it serves Tull
right, seeing as Mick was great and they were obnoxious, etc

I'm renting it asap to check this out.  Thanks Jon!,
--junior



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread BARNARD

And now Stuart!:
 
   Yes yes yes.  I've been looking for a head rings out for years, since my
 original disappeared (I blame a certain Carbondale junkie).  I loved Abrahams
 mixed with that guy who played two saxaphones at once.  The first Tull album is
 actual

I think we're close to critical mass on this one, people g.  A Blodwyn
Pig thread does my little heart good.

They wrongly *precisely* that sort of band that nailed it and disappeared
wrongly.  So that decades later the very name makes you grin and wonder,
"What the hell *did* happen to my copy of that one??"  Lost in the ozone,
they are...  Wow, what a band.  Now I'm gonna be on the lookout for a
copy.

--junior



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread BARNARD

You mean how can you tell stylistically, or how can you tell by their
respective haircuts?? g

Oboy, I'm gonna rent a video and worry about whether the guitarist is Tony
Iommi or Mick Abrahams g,
--junior

NP:  buck sings harlan howard (Mick A. didn't play on this disc...)



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread Jim_Caligiuri

Just another reason to love P2, other folks who remember the joys of
Blodwyn Pig. g
I kinda think A Head Rings Out came out on CD on some small, re-issue
oriented label in the early part of this decade. Never picked it up though.
I have the the disc in my hot little hands right now though and here's the
info on it: The Modern Alchemist  was released in 1997 on the Indigo label
in the UK, marketed by Trojan Sales, which sounds like a mailorder house.
There is very little other info on the CD book other than a brief history
of the band and some quotes from Abrahams. I picked it up for 6 bucks at
Cheapos late last year.
Jim, smilin'
NP: BP-The Modern Alchemist- Dear Jill (ah the memories) G




Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread Geff King

BARNARD wrote:
 
 You mean how can you tell stylistically, or how can you tell by their
 respective haircuts?? g

I mean Tony Iommi plays left handed.

He also had a couple of fingers destroyed in an accident, but I doubt
you're gonna see that on the video.

Geff King
NP:  Whose Line Is It Anyway / wife laughing



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread stuart

Twang content:  second sentence of the Beat Instrumental quote..

The link at the bottom is:
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a8904593/blodwyn.pig.html

the page is outdated, but is shows him and the pig still playing around
England as late as last December.

Mick Abrahams:

   Blodwyn Pig bossman!

   Quote from "Beat Instrumental", February 1971:
   "Unlike most guitarists, Mick Abrahams'
playing, blending
   sophisticated chord work with dazzling
single-string breaks,
   goes beyond the distinction between lead and
rhythm
   playing. You can hear echoes of many forms -
Mick has a
   wide-ranging style drawing from jazz, country
and western,
   rock'n'roll (ancient and modern) and he is also
one of the
   most imaginative and sensitive exponents of
bottlenecking.
Mick made his decision to go professional at the fitting age of 21, when his
mother asked him
whether he wanted a big party or a guitar to launch him into manhood; he chose
the guitar, a Gibson
SG that he still uses six years later, and shortly after formed his own band,
the Original Hustlers, who
played mostly Chuck Berry and Little Richard songs and what Mick laughingly
refers to as "our own
arrangements of Beatles' numbers".

His step into a national group came when he joined Neil Christian's Crusaders,
who had just lost
Jimmy Page, but he left after a three-month stint. "We had to dress up in
orange shirts, tight black
trousers and white boots and wiggle our asses. If you saw how fat I was then
you'd know why I
didn't fancy it", he admits. But after an ill-fated venture with a band called
the Goodtimers with,
amongst others, Graham Waller, Dave Cakebread and Bernie Etherington - "We
rehearsed
every night for five months and folded after six gigs. It wasn't a bad band,
either. We had a big fat,
bluesy sound" - Mick found himself back with the Crusaders, and, having played
"a few gigs" with
the magnificient Screaming Lord Sutch's Savages, went on to join a Luton group
called Jensen's
Moods, where he played with Clive Bunker and Andy Pyle.

His next band was McGregor's Engine with Clive (on drums), Pete Benson (or
Fensome? on
vocals) and Andy (on bass. Ex-Victor Brox's Blues Train) again."

Referring to McGregor's Engine, Pete Frame says in his "Rock Family Trees,
Vol. 2".
"Jan '67 to Nov. '67. A Luton Supergroup; all had played around the area since
Beatles days. This
was a power blues band, Cream inspired. Hot locally."

Back to "Beat Instrumental":
Rehearsing in an adjoining room at Caesar's Palace one day, however, was a
band called the John
Evans Smash who had been told by their managers to get "a blues guitarist".
Mick joined, and
managed to persuade Clive to go with him rather than work for Commer Motors;
the new group
included Ian Anderson and Glenn Cornick and was called Ian Anderson'sBag of
Blues. Agent
Dave Robson suggested Jethro Tull for a name, and their first record, one of
Mick's songs, came
out on MGM; "Sunshine Day", by Jethro Tull. Some time later, after Jethro's
triumphant appearance
at the Kempton festival of 1968, he was at last in a successful band."

Mick left Jethro Tull after one album ("This Was") and formed Blodwyn Pig.
Made two albums
with them - and then established Mick Abrahams Band (initially called Mick
Abraham's Pig or
Wommet). And swore to never play "Cat's Squirrel" again.

Mick Abrahams Band issued two albums: "Mick Abrahams" CHRYSALIS ILPS 9147
(1971)
and "At Last" CHRYSALIS CHR 1005 (1972). Jack Lancaster returns on sax on
number two.

In 1975 he recorded "Learning Guitar With" on SRT SRTM 73313. He should
know...

Cover above from "Mick's Back" album - still another one.

Mick keeps on recording infrequent comeback albums. Check out eminent link
below.
You can't keep a good man down, can you?

Links:
 The Blodwyn Pig Fan Page

BARNARD wrote:

 You mean how can you tell stylistically, or how can you tell by their
 respective haircuts?? g

 Oboy, I'm gonna rent a video and worry about whether the guitarist is Tony
 Iommi or Mick Abrahams g,
 --junior

 NP:  buck sings harlan howard (Mick A. didn't play on this disc...)





Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread BARNARD

Ah, left-handed!!!  Well done Geff!  I was worrying, cause as I recall
Abrahams played an SG too... g

--junior, who cannot *wait* to hear the original Blodwyn Pig playing "Six
Days on the Road"  Talk about ALT-country g



Re: Blodwyn Pig plays Truck-drivin' music

1999-02-03 Thread Jim_Caligiuri

Junior writes: Dig this: in the track listings for the live album, we have
a
smattering of BP standbys, plus some *Truck-Drivin'* songs!!!  Track 1 is
"Dunstable Truck-Drivin' Man" (I'm laughing as I type this) and Track 9
is, I kid you not, "Six Days on the Road."

Wow, this is not the disc I have. There's nothing it remotely like that
even. What I have is pretty much from AHRO, It's Only Love, Dear Jill, See
My Way and Ain't Ya Coming Home, Babe? along with a killer version of Cat's
Squirrel.

Now what the hell is that URL that you were looking at?
Jim, smilin'




Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread Jim_Caligiuri

.who cannot *wait* to hear the original Blodwyn Pig playing "Six
Days on the Road"  Talk about ALT-country g

I dunno. It *could* sound like Foghat, not that should bother Jerry. g
JC




Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread BARNARD

Jim says: 
 I dunno. It *could* sound like Foghat, not that should bother Jerry. g

That's a possibility.  But just to think that they were a Brit band
performing this number in the 69-71 moment when it was still quite recent,
etc., is impressive.  I mean, this is when the Burritos were the only
*American* band performing it, right?  

Way to go, Mick!
--junior



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread Jerry Curry


Man, to hear some Blodwyn Pig playing country tunes while in
my car taking a "Slow Ride".  Man, life couldn't get much better...

Jer
NP: Stonewall Jackson - All The Best

On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 .who cannot *wait* to hear the original Blodwyn Pig playing "Six
 Days on the Road"  Talk about ALT-country g
 
 I dunno. It *could* sound like Foghat, not that should bother Jerry. g
 JC



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread stuart

http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a8904593/albums.html

The liner notes for A Head Rings Out, written my Mick.  Check it out. .A
sample:

"SING ME A SONG THAT I KNOW" - Has the quality of hard rock and blues with
heavy
  accentuation on drums and bass from "vulture" Ron Berg and "budgerigar"
Andy Pyle. Vocal
  from yours truly who thought he was Elvis Presley at the time. (A song
to squash budgies by).

Jerry Curry wrote:

 Man, to hear some Blodwyn Pig playing country tunes while in
 my car taking a "Slow Ride".  Man, life couldn't get much better...

 Jer
 NP: Stonewall Jackson - All The Best

 On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  .who cannot *wait* to hear the original Blodwyn Pig playing "Six
  Days on the Road"  Talk about ALT-country g
 
  I dunno. It *could* sound like Foghat, not that should bother Jerry. g
  JC


As soon as you find this 6 days one, let us know.  A must have.  As soon as I
get that CD release of a Head.



Re: Blodwyn Pig plays Truck-drivin' music

1999-02-03 Thread BARNARD

Yow, Stuart!!!  At least "Six Days" is only 5 and a half minutes!! g

All those 7 and 10-minute tracks are kinda scary...

--junior



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread Jon E. Johnson

I wrote:

  Um...that's actually Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi on guitar with
Tull
 in the Circus; his only performance with the group during his infamous
 2-week stint with the group.

Junior responded:

Good lord...g.  I always assumed that had to be Mick A.!!  I'm gonna
rent and watch it tomorrow to see.  All I can say is, it serves Tull
right, seeing as Mick was great and they were obnoxious, etc

I'm renting it asap to check this out.  Thanks Jon!,

 A word of warning.  I can't remember what the credits say on the
video, but on the CD Mick A. is listed as the group's guitarist, in spite
of the fact that the guitarist in the pictures is clearly Iommi
(pre-moustache, but playing a leftie white SG).  In fact, when the CD was
first released I e-mailed "I.C.E." about the error (since they love to
follow these things and embarass the guilty parties in print...) and they
wrote back saying they had been told the same thing by a couple of other
people and would follow up on it.
 As for the plastic fingertips on Iommi's right hand, you can see
them in some Sabbath footage, though I didn't really look closely the one
time I saw the Tull footage.  You're on your own here.  
 Other suggested threads on long-obscure acts:  Lindisfarne,
Stackridge, Hatfield and the North, Mud, Budgie, and Greenslade.
--Jon Johnson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Wollaston, Massachusetts



Re: Blodwyn Pig

1999-02-03 Thread Jim_Caligiuri

Jon writes: Other suggested threads on long-obscure acts:  Lindisfarne,
Stackridge, Hatfield and the North, Mud, Budgie, and Greenslade

Never really got into any of those for some reason. Though I did like
Strawbs, Family and Passport.
Jim, feeling really old and my still birthday's two weeks away
ObTwang-Heard the Damnations on KGSR today, woo hoo!