Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Ndubb


  And since I'm not at all cautious about leaving my email
 address around the planet, I don't understand why I don't get more, while
 Mark Wyatt is apparently on every porn mailer in the U.S. and Denmark. 

AOL being the difference. 

NW, who is against anything that makes my e-mail addy even more available to
spammers.



Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Bob Soron

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, stuart wrote:

 And since I'm not at all cautious about leaving my email
 address around the planet, I don't understand why I don't get more, while
 Mark Wyatt is apparently on every porn mailer in the U.S. and Denmark.

Well, *someone* has to run them.

Bob



OT: Spam and e-mail addresses (was Re: Query:Archive this list?)

1999-01-14 Thread Lianne McNeil

At 06:35 AM 1/14/99 -0800, Stuart wrote:
You can get free email accounts all over the place now of course, which
is one solution to this.  And I can see where spam might be a problem, although to 
date, I've really never had much of problem.  Once in a 
while something comes through.  And since I'm not at all cautious 
about leaving my email address around the planet, I don't understand 
why I don't get more, while Mark Wyatt is apparently on every porn 
mailer in the U.S. and Denmark.

The key to receiving spam, it seems, is to post to newsgroups with an unmunged e-mail 
address.  I inadvertently did that a few weeks ago and 
now my spam quotient is up from once or twice a week to once or twice 
a day.

But as I understand it, the spam-bots have also been scanning web sites
for valid e-mail addresses... so I, too, don't want my e-mail address
available on a web site where anyone can get ahold of it.

Also, sometimes when you visit a web site they're using tools that
can find your address and other information about you, and later may 
send you unsolicited e-mail...

If you want to see what web sites are able to find out about you
when you visit, click here:  http://www.consumer.net/analyze/
See also http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy
This anonymous web surfing site tells some of the same information:
http://www.anonymizer.com/cgi-bin/snoop.pl
And for another revealing look (about security)... 
http://www.coriolis.com/webpsychos/wpfiles.htm

Lianne



Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Amy Haugesag

Herr Listmeister writes:


I haven't explored the site enough to give you a definitive answer.  Does
anyone know if it's possible to easily access the P2 archives through that
website?  Does anyone even know who built and maintains the dang
thing?--don


I don't have a clue who built it, but it's maintained by someone or other
at Emory, apparently. It stores only a couple of days' worth of posts, or
in particularly high-traffic times, one days' worth; I think the limit is
on the number of messages rather than the number of days, and it seems to
top out at around 500.

I'm in favor of archiving the whole history of p2 somewhere, as long as
access is limited somehow so that we don't all start getting endless
amounts of Spam. A password might be kind of complicated to implement, but
it would be great if our e-mail addresses could somehow be deleted.

--Amy

"If I said I don't want what I don't have/And all the answers are in
love/If I said I believed in myself and that's enough/I'd be lying"--Sam
Philips




Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Bob Soron

At 8:21 PM -0600  on 1/13/99, Christopher M Knaus wrote:

I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web
pages. So if you can strip that off, or slap a password on the front of
the whole thing that would be cool. Also remember that there is a web
site or two out there (cant remember the URL) that has p2 postings (you
can read them, but cannot actually post) but I dont know how far back
they go.

I'm with Chris -- I don't mind being in the archives, but I don't want
my email address exposed. (I'm paying for two email accounts, and this
is the private one.) It's essential that whoever's volunteering for
this effort understand that.

As far as I know, the archives are all still available from the
listproc at U Washington, so this should all be moot. List members who
want them can retrieve them from there. (And that includes the current
month, too.)

Bob




Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread stuart



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 1/13/99 9:56:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:

 
  I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web
  pages. 

 I have to agree with CK on this one.  I get enough mail from nuts as it is.

 Deb

  Hey! I haven't sent you any mail in months now.  And my therapist said I'm
making remarkable progress.

But... This is one reason for multiple e-mail accounts.  The other is that it
allows one's alternative personalities to also vote for Mike Ireland.

Stuart
among others



Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread stuart



Bob Soron wrote:

 At 8:21 PM -0600  on 1/13/99, Christopher M Knaus wrote:

 I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web
 pages. So if you can strip that off, or slap a password on the front of
 the whole thing that would be cool. Also remember that there is a web
 site or two out there (cant remember the URL) that has p2 postings (you
 can read them, but cannot actually post) but I dont know how far back
 they go.

 I'm with Chris -- I don't mind being in the archives, but I don't want
 my email address exposed. (I'm paying for two email accounts, and this
 is the private one.) It's essential that whoever's volunteering for
 this effort understand that.

 As far as I know, the archives are all still available from the
 listproc at U Washington, so this should all be moot. List members who
 want them can retrieve them from there. (And that includes the current
 month, too.)

 Bob

You can get free email accounts all over the place now of course, which is
one solution to this.  And I can see where spam might be a problem, although
to date, I've really never had much of problem.  Once in a while something
comes through.  And since I'm not at all cautious about leaving my email
address around the planet, I don't understand why I don't get more, while
Mark Wyatt is apparently on every porn mailer in the U.S. and Denmark.

But the original question was is there a searchable archive.  Can the
archive at U.Washington be easily searched by topic or key word or some
combination of key words?

Stuart




Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-14 Thread Geffry King

 
 As far as I know, the archives are all still available from the
 listproc at U Washington, so this should all be moot. List members who
 want them can retrieve them from there. (And that includes the current
 month, too.)

Any way to do this via FTP? If I try to get the listproc to send me a
2MB text file by E-Mail, my mailer will ROTF and LIAO.

-- 
 Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/
"We were having trouble getting a good clean bass sound. So instead 
 of going with a standard 2/4 beat, I said, `Let's try a 4/4 bass 
 and a shuffle rhythm,' and it cut. It cut clean through."
 -- Ray Price, on recording 'Crazy Arms'






Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-13 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Jamie has an idea...
 I have an idea that I wanna get out before it dies of loneliness...
 Would it be desirable to have this list and its archives "webbified" 
and searchable? 

I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web
pages. So if you can strip that off, or slap a password on the front of
the whole thing that would be cool. Also remember that there is a web
site or two out there (cant remember the URL) that has p2 postings (you
can read them, but cannot actually post) but I dont know how far back
they go.

My 2 cents

Later...
CK NP Zappa, Gourds
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Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-13 Thread Debnumbers

In a message dated 1/13/99 9:56:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 
 I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web
 pages. 

I have to agree with CK on this one.  I get enough mail from nuts as it is.

Deb



Re: Query:Archive this list?

1999-01-13 Thread Shane S. Rhyne

Howdy,

CK:  I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha
web pages. 


Deb: I have to agree with CK on this one.  I get enough mail from nuts as
it is.

Fortunately for Deb, Jeff Wall is shipping out to sea in April... Badum-bum.
Thank you, thank you very much.

Seriously though, I think part of the beauty of this list is that it isn't
necessarily publicly available. I think most of us feel a little freer to
express ourselves with the knowledge that whatever missives we send will
find its way to a limited audience, rather than the entire internet system.

Of course, there's always the possibility of publicizing the fluff
channel...

Take care,

Shane Rhyne, working late
Knoxville, TN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

NP: Lone Justice, "Don't Toss Us Away"