RE: Remember, its Denver
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of harris_w Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 1:17 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Remember, its Denver While I agree with Alex that Boulder is pretty cool, lived ther for 6 years, Man, I don't know where in Boulder you people were because there was nothing cool there for the year + I lived there (well actually I lived in Nederland which is even worse) except possibly the public library. In fact, I'd venture to say Boulder was one of the most obnoxious places I'd ever lived near. Denver has a great and I mean great Salvation Army. There's also a good Vietnamese restaurant called New Saigon there. Nicholas
Re: Remember, its Denver
I lived in Denver when I was a little kid -- near downtown on Grape Street -- and, man, it was a cooler than hell place to live at that time (1958-62). Great Mexican food, "Our Gang" style gang wars with the kids down the alley, plenty of lick em aide, fireworks galore if your older brothers would agree to ride their bikes to the "city limits," and the biggest sandbox in the world, across the street at the Herrera's. -- Terry Smith ps watched the Johnny Cash tribute last night; once again realized what a great man and musician Cash was and is. Couldn't make heads nor tails of Dylan's mailed-in performance, though I appreciated the gesture. pps switched to CMT late Saturday, and discovered an hour-long program they have where the videos are all alt.country and/or Southern-style rock, with country influences. eg Emmy Lou and Buddy Miller on "Love Hurts," the Georgia Satellites, Billy Burnette, etc. What a find.
Re: Remember, its Denver
Cash eclipses Dylan .. and every politically charged rapper (and any other outspoken musician), and every artist who defied their own musical definition and followed his or her own muse, quite likely owes a debt to the Zim. Funny. Wycliffe (sp?) sings at Cash tribute. Dylan sits in Wycliffe videos. Koufax is God. Wait. That makes him Eric Clapton. Nevermind. np Chris Cacavas - Tonight's The Night
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Todd Larson wrote: On another subject, a couple of month ago I picked up the essential Ray Price disc after hearing the raves from others on list. Question: who is the high harmony singer on those amazing shuffles on the second half of the disc? Wow, does he sound frickin great singing along with Ray's big baritone... I think it's Ray Price, doing the old (pre-multitrack) overdub technique whereby you sing as the original master rolls and record the mixed result onto a new master. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Remember, its Denver
Cash eclipses Dylan. Cash is one of only two musicians in both the country and rock halls of fame. Cash has Dylan in decades o' influence, five to four. Cash helped *found* rock roll, for chrissake. I'll still disagree with you Dave. First off, who gives a rat's ass about how many halls of fame Cash is in compared to Dylan. Are you really gonna give creedence to an organization (rock) that inducts Billy Joel as a member? Pshaw. You know better than to use that as an argument. Plus, in this here day and age, every singer-songwriter who ever picked up an acoustic guitar, every folk-rocker, every punk rocker and every politically charged rapper (and any other outspoken musician), and every artist who defied their own musical definition and followed his or her own muse, quite likely owes a debt to the Zim. Where's the obvious examples of modern-day repercussions of Cash's work? And if Cash *found* rock roll, does that mean Elvis didn't? Hmm... guess I've got my musical references all wrong. Neal Weiss
Re: Remember, its Denver
Neal: I'll still disagree with you Dave. First off, who gives a rat's ass about how many halls of fame Cash is in compared to Dylan. Are you really gonna give creedence to an organization (rock) that inducts Billy Joel as a member? Pshaw. You know better than to use that as an argument. You shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater -- the point is that Cash is idolized by important artists on both the country and rock sides of the fence, and I don't think as strong an argument can be made for Dylan. Plus, in this here day and age, every singer-songwriter who ever picked up an acoustic guitar, every folk-rocker, every punk rocker and every politically charged rapper (and any other outspoken musician), and every artist who defied their own musical definition and followed his or her own muse, quite likely owes a debt to the Zim. Where's the obvious examples of modern-day repercussions of Cash's work? In all the above: Cash was an iconoclast star when Dylan was still wetting himself in Hibbing. Cash blazed the trail, Dylan followed it. No, many of the types you mention might not cite Cash as an explicit influence, but then again, a lot of them might not cite Dylan either. And if Cash *found* rock roll, does that mean Elvis didn't? Hmm... guess I've got my musical references all wrong. I said he *helped* found rock and roll. Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Re: Remember, its Denver
Cash is one of only two musicians in both the country and rock halls of fame. Is this still true? Because Bob Wills just went into the Rock 'n' Roll HOF a few weeks ago, and I've gotta believe that he'd already made the cut for the Country Music HOF. Unless the Opry's still pissed about that drum thing g. Lance . . .
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There just aren't many artists in any genre as influential as Cash. Dylan maybe. Dylan *maybe*? How about: "There just aren't many artists in any genre as influential as Dylan. Cash maybe." But I doubt it. Bob Dylan's the single most influential pop musician in the 20th century. Hands down. Either him or Mark Linkous in Sparklehorse, that is. Neal Weiss
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There just aren't many artists in any genre as influential as Cash Not to begrudge Cash his due, but I can think of at least a half-dozen country performers who have been more influential, at least as far as country music is concerned: Jimmie Rodgers, Bob Wills, Bill Monroe, Hank Williams, George Jones and Merle Haggard. As for Dylan's influence on pop music, I'd bet Bob would choose the Big E. over himself any day.--don
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Neal: Dylan *maybe*? How about: "There just aren't many artists in any genre as influential as Dylan. Cash maybe." But I doubt it. Bob Dylan's the single most influential pop musician in the 20th century. Hands down. Cash eclipses Dylan. Cash is one of only two musicians in both the country and rock halls of fame. Cash has Dylan in decades o' influence, five to four. Cash helped *found* rock roll, for chrissake. Don't get me wrong -- I love His Bobness, but Cash vs. Dylan is a blowout. And I bet Bob would agree. Dave, surprised that the rockcrit in Neal didn't nominate Zack "Frenzy" Sanders of the Tiny Rocket Men From Idaho -- who we all know had a very important garage rock single in 1965 that briefly charted in Greenland -- as the most influential pop musician of the 20th century *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Re: Remember, its Denver
There is absolutely nothing cool to do in Denver. Boulder is the extreme opposite...possibly one of the coolest places I have ever been to. It's less than an hour away and an easy drive. Non music related, if you want the BEST, and I mean absolute BEST hamburger, Go to a little bar in Denver called the Cherry Cricket, it's across the street from the Cherry Creek shopping mall. It's an alt.country friendly place from what I remember of the juke box and the burgers were incredible. I ate there 4 times in three days it was so good. Also, if you get a chance and the Rockies are home, Coors Field looked like a splendid place to take in a game...they put it right in the city and there are quite a few bars in the surrounding neighborhood. Otherwise, it's one of those cities that are pretty much one big suburb...like most landlocked cities. The people seemed pretty laid back and everyone was really cool from what I saw. Alex "who seeks out the cool in every city he visits and reports back per your request" Millar On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Christopher M Knaus wrote: Hey there, So I'm headed to Denver for a smattering of days during May and if I recall, there isnt squat for a music scene there. Any suggestions? Later... CK trying to remember if that's where Deb wound up *shudder* ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
RE: Remember, its Denver
While I agree with Alex that Boulder is pretty cool, lived ther for 6 years, Denver does have *some* redeaming qualities. However, if you want the real scoop, look for the Westword on-line (sorry I'm not an adept addressprovider). "LoDo" has a few good restaurants, there's good ethnic food - Soeul Food comes to mind, Sushi Den has excellent sushi and the Westword can tell you what music is in either Boulder or Denver. And if you do go to Boulder, the Fox is THE place for live music. Wynn
Re: Remember, its Denver
In a message dated 4/16/99 9:11:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CK trying to remember if that's where Deb wound up *shudder* no actually Deb didn't wind up but she's in nashville this weekend. athens will remain home DAS
