Re: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, this is interesting; is he a big pro-gun dude? And what's the deal with military stuff? I have none of his stuff but all of the talk about him around here of late has really peaked my interest... I suspect he is simply fascinated with the Hunter S Thompson/Duke persona and likes to write about that type of character. I doubt that he has any experience as a globe trotting drug running gun for hire. But I could be wrong. Bill Lavery http://villagerecords.com/
Re: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)
Carl Abraham Zimring wrote: Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 27-Jan-99 Re: Zevon (was Re: other vo.. by "William T. Cocke"@serve including what may be his only straight country song (the name of which escapes me now), a duet with Dwight Yoakum. "Heartache Spoken Here." Mr. Bad Example, as good as anything he ever did. Way underrated. Can usually be found in the used sections of your favorite indie store for almost nothing. Take a chance. Bill Lavery http://villagerecords.com/
Re: SV: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)
Reply to: Re: SV: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt) One of the Zevon websites (http://members.aol.com/zevonfan1/private/zevon.htm) has a great interview culled from Goldmine. A lengthy, and fascinating look at the Excitable Boy. Can't remember if it covers Stravinsky but it's still fascinating as are Warren's recollections of being a studio musician in the 60's. Warren couldn't play a lick (then) but he had a 12 String just like Roger McQuinn so he got hired for a lot of dates. Funny stuff. Check it out. CD Geffry King wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Geir Nyborg wrote: Some years ago I read an article about Zevon at the age of 12 or 13, and how his music teacher got him an audience with Igor Stravinsky at his home in So. Cal. Won't even try to quote it or name the source but it was fascinating.
Re: Other voices - Linda Ronstadt
Linda Ronstadt - another great voice, full of quivering vibratto, but devoid of sincerity and emotion. You got that right! Especially obvious on that song she did about the windstorm, "Blew By You". At least it sounded like that's what she thought it was.
Re: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)
Carl wroteth; That viewpoint might be considered right-of-center, if gun ownership and military content are relevant variables to you. I think Zevon's written more gun songs than Ted Nugent has, and some of the percussion on "Jungle Work" consists of him shooting a pistol into a garbage can full of gravel. Hmmm, this is interesting; is he a big pro-gun dude? And what's the deal with military stuff? I have none of his stuff but all of the talk about him around here of late has really peaked my interest... Dan == == "We're not about to forgot that the core of our fans are people who get up in the morning and bake a lot of biscuits" (Earl Scruggs)
Re: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)
Reply to: Re: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt) The Zevon stuff picqued my interest as well. $60 later...well you know the story. I'm not sure that Warren a freak of Nuge sized proportions (ie "I'm my own miltia"), I think he just likes to shoot guns. There's a picture on the back of the booklet from Sleep When I'm Dead, his best-of, of he and Hunter S. Thompson shooting guns. As far as the military stuff goes, once again, I think he just likes sleazy characters like mercenaries and gun runners. Anyway, if that hasn't scared you off and if you're still curious Sleep When I'm Dead is probably the best way to go. Made a believer out of me. In addition to writing great stories of desperate characters (check out Rottweiler Blues off Mutineer) he writes some lovely ballads as well. In fact, as the "Excitable Boy"-type songs have diminished there's been a lot more ballads to enjoy. Anyway, pass the ammo! Aaa-whooo! Chaco Danlee2 wrote: Carl wroteth; That viewpoint might be considered right-of-center, if gun ownership and military content are relevant variables to you. I think Zevon's written more gun songs than Ted Nugent has, and some of the percussion on "Jungle Work" consists of him shooting a pistol into a garbage can full of gravel. Hmmm, this is interesting; is he a big pro-gun dude? And what's the deal with military stuff? I have none of his stuff but all of the talk about him around here of late has really peaked my interest... Dan
Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] quoted : Influence? Linda Ronstadt - another great voice, full of quivering vibratto, but devoid of sincerity and emotion. and wrote: Devoid of sincerity or emotion??? Hmm...I wouldn't say that as much as guilty of overcooking it, but I haven't heard as much of her stuff as I probably should. I'm fairly ambivalent about Linda Ronstadt. I think when I discovered her, I was going through that little thing called adolescence, and she was going thru her girl guide outfit / skateboarder pads and shorts look, and I think my judgement was clouded somewhat g there are some great performances scattered across albums like Heart Like a Wheel, hasten down the wind and prisoner in disguise. Simple Dreams is pretty much a stone classic altogether. I am even perverse enough to enjoy Mad Love - her generally adjudged as misguided new wave phase. These days, though, I find the bits I like are her duets. Specifically, things like "Star of Bethlehem" with Neil Young and quite a lot of the Trio album. But the over-emoting / overcooking criticism seems to me to be a valid one a lot of the time. She sometimes seems to foghorn it when something more subtle is what the song is gently pleading for. Stevie
Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt
a few more great performances off the top of my head with the foghorn turned down - maybe I'm right my blue tears I never will marry belting it out and it actually works - think it's gonna work out fine willin how do I make you I'm hoping that Trio II delivers the goods. And is there talk of an emmylou/linda duets album too?
Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt
Jon Weisberger wrote: Stevie confessed: I am even perverse enough to enjoy Mad Love - her generally adjudged as misguided new wave phase. Isn't that the album that has her version of "Poor Pitiful Me?" Love that cut... It's a good one, a great arrangement that improves on Zevon's original (which is darn good itself). But I believe it crops up on the Simple Dreams album, the one with Linda sitting in a flimsy nightgown in front of the mirror... Ooops. Just reverting to adolescence again for a moment there... Stevie Should Terri Clark be introducing this as a Linda Ronstadt song or as a Warren Zevon one? g Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt
It's on Ronstadt's Sweet Dreams album. I'm not sure which one of Warren's its on but it really is a ZEVON cut. Give him what credit he is due is my motto. I've played the Ronstadt Version a couple of time with an intro something to the likes of and here Linda Ronstadt coverin Warren Zevon's Poor Pitiful Me. Iceman Jon Weisberger wrote: Stevie confessed: I am even perverse enough to enjoy Mad Love - her generally adjudged as misguided new wave phase. Isn't that the album that has her version of "Poor Pitiful Me?" Love that cut... Should Terri Clark be introducing this as a Linda Ronstadt song or as a Warren Zevon one? g Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt
"Doug Young aka \"The Iceman\"" wrote: It's on Ronstadt's Sweet Dreams album. I'm not sure which one of Warren's its on but it really is a ZEVON cut. Give him what credit he is due is my motto. Pretty sure it's simple dreams but wouldnt swear to it. And I agree Zevon needs every due he's due. I understand he's without a label right now - that right? Crying shame. Stevie
Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt
Oh, good, a Linda Ronstadt thread. Go back and check out her first Capital record (I believe) with "Birds," "I Fall to Pieces," "I Still Miss Someone," and a bunch of other good songs. That's the record when I first discovered her, around the fall of 73, and it's still a minor classic in my book. Also, the record that came immediatly after that, and the one or two preceding it (one titled "Silk Purse," I believe) were very good. She did the Loudermilk tune Break My Mind on one of them, if I remember correctly. -- terry smith ps Cisco's great. A cross between Steve and Dwight. Cool tattoos, too.
RE: other voices - Linda Ronstadt
Pretty sure it's simple dreams but wouldnt swear to it. And I agree Zevon needs every due he's due. I understand he's without a label right now - that right? Crying shame. [Matt Benz] No, it is Simple Dreams, now that I think of it; with Tumblin Dice, Blue Bayou, etc on there. Zevon's the whip. Or one of em, anyway. That whole EL LAY sound of the 70's, early 80's needed a good shot of cynical (before it was used for Miller Beer commercials) morbid humor to give a bitter taste to the sweet n lite, and WZ was just the man to deliver. The fact that he got so many of his songs covered by Rondstadt is interesting, considering his left of center viewpoint and edgy songs.
Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Jan-99 RE: other voices -
Linda Ro.. by Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zevon's the whip. Or one of em, anyway. That whole EL LAY sound
of the 70's, early 80's needed a good shot of cynical (before it was
used for Miller Beer commercials) morbid humor to give a bitter taste to
the sweet n lite, and WZ was just the man to deliver. The fact that he
got so many of his songs covered by Rondstadt is interesting,
considering his left of center viewpoint and edgy songs.
That viewpoint might be considered right-of-center, if gun ownership and
military content are relevant variables to you. I think Zevon's written
more gun songs than Ted Nugent has, and some of the percussion on
"Jungle Work" consists of him shooting a pistol into a garbage can full
of gravel.
Zevon just celebrated a birthday, is perhaps the only songwriter to have
ever namechecked the SEC ("Seminole Bingo", cowritten by Carl Hiaasen),
sang "Lawyers, Guns, and Money" at Jesse "The Governor" Ventura's
inauguration, and is on tour as we speak. I'm going to try to catch him
Saturday in Pittsburgh (Amy Rigby opens).
don't the sun look angry at me,
Carl Z.
Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Stevie Simkin wrote: I'm hoping that Trio II delivers the goods. And is there talk of an emmylou/linda duets album too? I can confirm that this is in the can, so to speak. My inside source was telling me over New Year's, that it is one fine piece of work. She thought it was even better than the new Trios CD. Her enthusiasm was most certainly infectious. So, I'm looking quite forward to it. However, I'm a bit biased in that I've always loved Linda Ronstadt's output top to bottom. Ok, count me out on that recent lullabies fiasco. Her 70's lite country-rock stuff fit me to a T. However, you all know about my affection for lite country-rock and how that adds to my *questionable* tastes g. Regarding Zevon. I used to work with a woman that dated a fishing guide from South Florida. This guide fellow is great friends with Carl Hiassin, who just so happens to be great friends with Zevon. The long short, is that she's been on fishing expeditions with this guide, Carl, and Warren. Se definitely has some stories to tell and is quite fond of Zevon. Very very dry biting wit supposedly. This woman I used to work with by the way was supposedly the inspiration for the main protaganist character in _Striptease_. Yeah, the character played so clumsily by Demi Moore. This was never confirmed though. JC Jerry Curry - Spectre Booking Independence, Oregon [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the Top 40, half the songs are secret messages to the teen world to drop out, turn on, and groove with the chemicals and light shows at discotheques. -- Art Linkletter
RE: other voices - Linda Ronstadt
I've only heard one cut from Trio II ("High Sierra" a song that I am
incredibly tired of that has become some sort of required cover tune over
the past few years...
Interesting comment, as I'm not aware of that many versions; there's
Ronstadt's and Chesapeake's, and I seem to remember an Eddie Adcock-related
one, but after that...?
For those who haven't heard the writer's recording - it's from Harley
Allen - this is yet another advisory to secure a copy of The Big Dogs Live
At The Birchmere (Strictly Country). I haven't heard a version yet that can
hold a candle to his.
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
