RE: cryptic messages in old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-17 Thread Walker, Jason

The weirdest runout groove messages I ever found are on the Triffids EP
"Fields Of Glass" - they read: "Pope Guilty of Intercourse", "Papal Semen
Identified". 
Others I can recall reading are "Hooley Dooley", "I've got a twelve-stwing
Wickenbacker", "John, call me - 691 8413".
These are all on Australian records, by the way. The sort of people that
must work in vinyl pressing plants...tsk tsk.
Junior Walker

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 Well, my favorite "scribe" comes courtesy of the Minutemen--I think 
 all of the SST bands of the 80's did this--who write "Arena Rock is the
 New 
 Wave on side d. of Double Nickels on the Dime. This is followed by side 
 mike's "Punk Rock is the New Nostalgia." Any chance to bring up this
 album, 
 and I'm there.
 
 Whoo-hoo! says me, who will also do the same. :)
 I think every Minutemen album has "scribes": e.g., Ballot Result ("You
 choose a hero's kingdom"(side one) "...or a mean democracy?"(side
 two)..."Want to focus?..." (side three)..."Bofus?" (side four)) or
 Project:Mersh ("Full Circle--The Concept becomes reality--now deal with
 it!!") 
   
 Lance, wondering if he wants new wave, or if he wants the truth . . .
 
 Actually, have you ever heard Dos' version of that song?? Maybe even
 better than the original...
 
 Steve Kirsch (who still thinks "Dreams Are Free, Motherfucker" is the
 best song title of all time, even if it isn't a very good song:))
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 np: John Strohm--"Caledonia" (anyone ever seen this guy live?...he's
 playing SXSW and I'm wondering what to expect) 
 
 
 
 
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Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-16 Thread Mike Woods



On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, William F. Silvers wrote:

 John Wendland wrote:

   I still remember
  the noise it made when the LP was dropped from the spindle and the grooves
  of one album rubbed against the grooves of another.
 
 Yeah, me too. Didn't they mold a thicker "lip" around the edge though, to
 prevent that rubbing?

I don't THINK so...
 

 ...thought about it the other night when BR5-49 covered "Battle Of New
 Orleans". Flip side on that old 45 was "Sink The Bismarck".

Then you don't have a very old 45.  I'm pretty sure that was a reissue
pressed in the 60's or 70's.  Going on a *really* old memory here, I think
the original B-side was "All for the Love of a Girl."  The original had a
cool sleeve with little cartoons depicting the story of the battle.
Sadly, all my 45's were ripped off by an ex-roommate so I can't check.

-- Mike Woods




RE: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-16 Thread Jon Weisberger

  ...thought about it the other night when BR5-49 covered "Battle Of New
  Orleans". Flip side on that old 45 was "Sink The Bismarck".

 Then you don't have a very old 45.  I'm pretty sure that was a reissue
 pressed in the 60's or 70's.

"Battle Of New Orleans" - Columbia 41339 (1959)
"Sink The Bismarck" - Columbia 41568 (1960)

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Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-16 Thread Bill Silvers

At 10:01 AM 1/16/1999 Mike Woods wrote:

 ...thought about it the other night when BR5-49 covered "Battle Of New
 Orleans". Flip side on that old 45 was "Sink The Bismarck".

Then you don't have a very old 45.  I'm pretty sure that was a reissue
pressed in the 60's or 70's.  Going on a *really* old memory here, I think
the original B-side was "All for the Love of a Girl."  The original had a
cool sleeve with little cartoons depicting the story of the battle.
Sadly, all my 45's were ripped off by an ex-roommate so I can't check.

Mebbe not. I was just a kid, early 60's, so I can't even remember the
label. Didn't matter a bit to me then, and wouldn't matter much now, since
that old portable flip-top record player wasn't exactly kind to records.
That 45 probably got used for pellet gun practice way back when. Kids- what
you gonna do?

b.s.

"The truth ain't always what we need, sometimes we need to hear a beautiful
lie." -Bill Lloyd




Re: cryptic messages in old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-16 Thread Matt Cook

You've missed some great Neil Young, then.

--Matt Cook

"Splendid isolation, I don't need no one"--Warren Zevon

Geffry King wrote:
 
 I recall a Neil Young album of some kind that had "Hello Waterface"
 etched into side 1 and "Goodbye Waterface" etched into side 2.
 
 Don't ask me which one - the last Neil Young I heard was on a Warren
 Zevon album.




RE: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-15 Thread Nicholas Petti



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 Yeah, does make ya feel old g.  All sorts of multi-disc albums were
 sided that way--operas, for instance, and other classical sets.
 
 --junior

 Hey man, my KISS Alive II double set wasn't marked that way... what gives?

They didn't know how to count.

Nicholas



cryptic messages in old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-15 Thread Jeanne Berrong

Good morning all,

Just when this thread is dying out, I'd like to throw out another vinyl
query:  what's up with the funky sayings inscribed in the smooth part of
the vinyl at the end of an album side?

(as I typed this question, my better half looked over my shoulder, mumbled
a quasi-answer, then went and grabbed a copy of an album from one of his
old bands.   There, etched in the vinyl are the words, "Smell this.")

Just wondering . . .

Jeanne




Re: cryptic messages in old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-15 Thread Shane S. Rhyne

Howdy,

Jeanne asks: what's up with the funky sayings inscribed in the smooth part
of the vinyl at the end of an album side?

From time to time folks would sign the master copy of the wax pressing.
Sometimes, it was the artist's signature, sometimes a little stranger...
(for example, "Smell this.")

At work and away from my collection, but I recall that a Bobby Darin album
of mine has some sort of inscription. And a tribute box set of Elvis stuff
that came out around 1986 or so included the King's signature embedded in
the vinyl.

I recall one of my albums at one time or another had an inscription along
the lines of "Turn this record over." Just merry pranksters in the days of
wax and vinyl.

Now, I'm off to lunch and continue previewing new music that arrived in my
mailbox this week-- The Bystanders, Buck Diaz, Hillbilly Idol, and Elena
Skye  the Demolition String Band. Woo hoo.

Take care,

Shane Rhyne
Knoxville, TN
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Strohm (Re: cryptic messages in old vinyl numbering systems)

1999-01-15 Thread Ndubb


 np: John Strohm--"Caledonia" (anyone ever seen this guy live?...he's
 playing SXSW and I'm wondering what to expect)  

I saw him live is LA a few months back Steve. Nothing extraordinary as far as
presence, just another alt-ish singer-songwriter in a sport coat, if I
remember correctly. But that's okay, cuz the songs are pretty decent,
somewhere between crunchy pop and Petty. And that's all that ultimately
matters, right? Then again, if he had that Parks gal from Nashville Pussy on
stage that would be something.

Never much of a fan of the sport-coat-in-rock look.

Neal Weiss



Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Jeff Weiss

At 02:18 PM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
Howdy,

Lance asks: Also--and on a completely unrelated note--can someone offer a
reason why record companies used to make double LP's with Side 1 backed with
Side 4?
Call me crazy, but wouldn't it make more sense to have Side 2 on the flip
since the record is already right there on the friggin turntable?

That way, when you put the antique vinyl discs on your hi-fi system, you can
stack the discs in the changer so that you can listen to the sides in
numerical order and only have to flip the discs once.

Some sort of demarcation has just taken place. Those old enough to remember
the stacking turntables and those who don't and, accordingly, are young 'uns. 

Stacking turntable spindle thingees those were the days

Jeff


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Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread BARNARD

Jeff says :
 Some sort of demarcation has just taken place. Those old enough to remember
 the stacking turntables and those who don't and, accordingly, are young 'uns. 
 
 Stacking turntable spindle thingees those were the days


Yeah, does make ya feel old g.  All sorts of multi-disc albums were
sided that way--operas, for instance, and other classical sets.

--junior



Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Derek

Yeah, does make ya feel old g.  All sorts of multi-disc albums were
sided that way--operas, for instance, and other classical sets.

--junior

Hey man, my KISS Alive II double set wasn't marked that way... what gives?

Derek
http://www.buckdiaz.com



Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Ndubb


 Yeah, Derek, that makes sense--because towards the end of the LP people
 pretty much gave up selling  spindled record changers...the word was out
 that you probably got a better (watch for antique term here) record player
 for the buck with a single-disc turntable as part of your swell new stereo
 component system.  So they started putting out multi-record sets ordered
 for flipping..one disc at a time. 

I seem to remember the switch from changers to single-LP turntables having to
do with preservation, mostly, eliminating unnecessary wear and tear that came
with an album making that four or five inch fall one too many times. At least
that was a main reason for my such investment. Got me one of them Technics
turntables with the belt motor and the stony strobe thing. And then I got me
the record cleaner brush thing with the liquid drops and special plastic
sleeves for that albums and different special plastic sleeves for the album
jacket. 

I think I gave all that up when I went to college and started dating. Being a
dork with a record cleaner isn't necessarily the best way to get laid. I
preferred twelvers of Coors Light, the bong and whatever she wanted to listen
to. But I digress. 

What were we talking about again?

Neal Weiss
np - Chuck E. Weiss - Extremely Cool



Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Shane S. Rhyne

Howdy,

Jeff Weiss, he say: Some sort of demarcation has just taken place. Those
old enough to remember the stacking turntables and those who don't and,
accordingly, are young 'uns. Stacking turntable spindle thingees those
were the days.

I loved the stacking turntable spindle thingees. As a young 'un, I'd put on
a stack of as many of my momma's Elvis records as the spindle thingee could
hold without getting too wobbly and I'd enjoy the rest of the day listening
to the King and working on my Elvis impersonation skills.

However, I really didn't care for those yellow insert thingees for 45s. You
never could seem to find one when you needed one...usually my sister was
turning them into strange future fashion headwear for Barbie dolls.

Take care,

Shane Rhyne
Knoxville, TN
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NP: Hillbilly Idol, Town and Country




Re: old vinyl numbering systems

1999-01-14 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Hey man, my KISS Alive II double set wasn't marked that way... what 
gives?

KISS didn't want to confuse their typical fan.

Later...
CK who opted for Brazilbilly of KISS on Jan 2, but had second thoughts
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