Need recommendation for niece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread Nancy Butts

Hi everyone,

I need some advice from all you Mac wizards. My sister, who has never 
used a Mac in her life, has commissioned me to buy a used Powerbook 
for her eleven-year-old daughter. Her requirements are simple:

1) Cost $100 or less
2) Simple and reliable
3) Can run some version of PowerPoint

Internet connectivity is not an issue (my sister allows supervised 
Net access only via her PC with cable modem). So what Powerbook would 
you recommend? What version of the OS?

My niece loves to do two things: write, and play with PowerPoint. 
I've got every word processor known to man, so I thought I could 
install WordPerfect, which is free, and an old copy of Word 5.1 that 
I no longer use. These would integrate smoothly with Windows-versions 
on my sister's PC, so my niece could copy a file to a PC-formatted 
floppy and print via the PC.

What I don't know about is PowerPoint. I don't know anything about 
its version history and compatibility with various versions of the 
Mac OS-and I don't know where to get my hands on a vintage version.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Nancy Butts


-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Need recommendation for niece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread bmgu3

A 540c with rev c pcmcia holder/ But that is more then 100.00 If the hd has
been upgraded to the at/scsi setup that is nice as well.



-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Need recommendation for niece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread Tom W.

I would recommend a 540C with OS 8.1. You can upgrade it to ppc later if you
wish. It is a good laptop with a nice color screen.
Tom

- Original Message -
From: Nancy Butts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PowerBooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 11:45 AM
Subject: Need recommendation for niece's 1st Powerbook


 Hi everyone,

 I need some advice from all you Mac wizards. My sister, who has never
 used a Mac in her life, has commissioned me to buy a used Powerbook
 for her eleven-year-old daughter. Her requirements are simple:

 1) Cost $100 or less
 2) Simple and reliable
 3) Can run some version of PowerPoint

 Internet connectivity is not an issue (my sister allows supervised
 Net access only via her PC with cable modem). So what Powerbook would
 you recommend? What version of the OS?

 My niece loves to do two things: write, and play with PowerPoint.
 I've got every word processor known to man, so I thought I could
 install WordPerfect, which is free, and an old copy of Word 5.1 that
 I no longer use. These would integrate smoothly with Windows-versions
 on my sister's PC, so my niece could copy a file to a PC-formatted
 floppy and print via the PC.

 What I don't know about is PowerPoint. I don't know anything about
 its version history and compatibility with various versions of the
 Mac OS-and I don't know where to get my hands on a vintage version.

 Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Nancy Butts


 --
 PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

   Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
   -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

   Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

 PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
   -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
 Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

 Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com



-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Need recommendation for niece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread Hardy Menagh

I can also recommend a 540c. you can get a good used one on eBay for
around $65. You should also upgrade the RAM, if it hasn't been. A used
32MB module usually goes for under $40. If it's not going on the Web,
you can get by with a 24MB module.

Before you decide, you should go to EveryMac.com and check out the
PowerBook specs. for each model.   

===
Hardy,  Hard's Disk Ltd., Freehold NY. A branch of the Abandoned
Computer Shelter. Apple and Mac parts gratefully accepted. Systems
charitably donated.  http://www.jmug.org/acs  for a branch near you.


-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Need recommendation for niece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread Scott Holder

Depending on exact needs, one of the Duos would be about perfect. 
Especially with Internet not being an issue, as the primary problem with 
Duos is the lack of external connectivity. Their primary advantage is being 
small and cheap. Even a PowerPC 2300c can be had for ~$50, which leaves 
extra for a minidock or floppy microdock. The lack of external connectivity 
means no built-in floppy, but it also makes extended lap use a lot more 
pleasant because they weigh practically nothing. I've had a 280c as my 
primary laptop for awhile now and wouldn't trade it for a TiBook (okay.. 
maybe I would... but I'm trying to make a point). The various docks and 
things may sound complicated, but they aren't. More or less plug and play.

If she needs any PPC software (would let her run a much newer versoin of 
Powerpoint), a 2300c would work. Otherwise, I'd recommend a 280c as 
well-written 68k code can run as fast or faster than PPC code on a 2300c.

The other relatively cheap but still decently powerful option would be the 
500 series. My only complaint is they're a bit big, but since I'm used to a 
Duo just about everything else feels huge. Unlike the duo, however, they 
have a floppy drive and a whole mess of ports on the back.

As for OS, generally as low a version as you can get away with running. 8.1 
may run on the 68k Duos and 9.2.2 might be hackable to run on a 2300c, but 
they'd be slow. I've run 7.1 on my 280c for awhile now and not run into 
anything major that won't run without some updates. Even software like 
Netscape 4.0.8 that claims to need at least 7.6.1 runs fine on it. 
Otherwise, 7.5.5 or 7.6.1 would probably run everything you need without 
going to 8.1 on the 68ks. If you do get a 2300c, 8.1 would work well, and 
so would 8.6. Head over to http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 for some info 
on 7.1 and recommended updates. With a bit of intial work you can get it 
running and looking just about like 8.1 anyway.

Hope this helps :)

Scott Holder

At 11:45 AM 6/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Hi everyone,

I need some advice from all you Mac wizards. My sister, who has never
used a Mac in her life, has commissioned me to buy a used Powerbook
for her eleven-year-old daughter. Her requirements are simple:

snip


-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Need recommendation for niece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread william ahearn

Scott Holder wrote:
 Depending on exact needs, one of the Duos would be about perfect. 
 Especially with Internet not being an issue, as the primary problem with 
 Duos is the lack of external connectivity. Their primary advantage is being 
 small and cheap. Even a PowerPC 2300c can be had for ~$50, which leaves 
 extra for a minidock or floppy microdock. The lack of external connectivity 
 means no built-in floppy, but it also makes extended lap use a lot more 
 pleasant because they weigh practically nothing. I've had a 280c as my 
 primary laptop for awhile now and wouldn't trade it for a TiBook (okay.. 
 maybe I would... but I'm trying to make a point). The various docks and 
 things may sound complicated, but they aren't. More or less plug and play.
 
 If she needs any PPC software (would let her run a much newer versoin of 
 Powerpoint), a 2300c would work. Otherwise, I'd recommend a 280c as 
 well-written 68k code can run as fast or faster than PPC code on a 2300c.
 

I -- more or less -- completely agree 
with the above. I think the 500 series 
would be a mistake. A color Duo -- like 
the 2300c -- would be ideal.

William


-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Is this a good Deal on a PB G3/233?

2002-06-30 Thread Paul Nelson

At 10:27 PM -0400 6/29/02, Craig wrote:
a friend has offered me a Powerbook G3/233 for somewhere between $450-$500.
Here's what he's got:

It is a G3 Wall Street,
233 MHz, 13.3 TFT screen, 128 Megs RAM, 2 Gig Hard Drive, 20x internal
cd rom, internal iomega zip drive, floppy drive, 56k internal modem,
ethernet port and 2 really good portable batteries. It also comes with
all the original documentation, a nice sumdex pleather case, s-video
adapter, ethernet cable and external video adapter.

I've read that the 233 are one the worst PB ever fro various reasons:
http://www.insanely-great.com/features/010806.html
What's everyone think?  I recently subscribed to sort watch to see what
everyone had to say about various models and have asked a few ?'s about
1400's.  I first wanted a 1400 but the USB issue kind of killed that.

The 233 processors may or may not have an L2 cache.  Even with it,
that's too much money, and without it you'd HAVE to change the processor to
one with.
Paul



-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Is this a good Deal on a PB G3/233?

2002-06-30 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx

apparently the passive matrix screens on these earlier G3 Powerbooks are
very prone to fading and washing out... a very cheap 233 much like you
describe came up for sale a few weeks ago, and that was reason. I quick call
to my local AppleCentre confirmed that they'd fixed 3 in the last week or
so, and, oh yeah, a new 12.1 PSTN screen would be AUD$800... which was $200
more than the 'Book itself!!! That said, complete active matrix 14.1
screens can be found on eBay for under US$150, which probably wouldn't be
such a bad upgrade to consider, bad screen or not.

Ben.

 The 233 processors may or may not have an L2 cache.  Even with it,
 that's too much money, and without it you'd HAVE to change the processor
to
 one with.
 Paul



-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Need recommendation for niece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 6/30/02 10:45 AM, Nancy Butts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I need some advice from all you Mac wizards. My sister, who has never
 used a Mac in her life, has commissioned me to buy a used Powerbook
 for her eleven-year-old daughter. Her requirements are simple:
 
 1) Cost $100 or less
 2) Simple and reliable
 3) Can run some version of PowerPoint
 
 Internet connectivity is not an issue (my sister allows supervised
 Net access only via her PC with cable modem). So what Powerbook would
 you recommend? What version of the OS?

I would echo some of the comments made by others regarding the Duos.
However, there is one thing in your list that you may have some problems
with and that is item #2.

I've spent a lot of years working on Macs for a living. I'm not Apple
certified; I'm an independent consultant. In those years I've worked on just
about every Mac there has been. More importantly, I've supported users
during that time using a wide variety of PowerBooks.

I love the Duos. The suggestions that you have gotten that you should look
at a 280c or a 2300c are all good suggestions. I would add the 270c to the
list, but truly, any of them would be fine. I gave each of my daughters (one
was 6 and one was 9 at the time) a nicely equipped 2300c. They love 'em.
Just the right size and since they don't need the capabilities of the newer
machines, they can do everything they need to do and pretty much everything
they want to do on a computer. They can even hook them into the network at
home and get DSL service to the 'net.

However... the Duos have some issues. In general, they tend to be not quite
as stable as the 500 series PowerBooks. You don't want to run anything newer
than 8.1 on a Duo, but I recommend at least 8.1 due to stability issues. It
will be a little slower than 7.x, but more stable. If you need a bit more
speed than you will get with 8.1, then 7.6.1 is a pretty decent incarnation
of the OS as well. 7.1 is also incredibly stable, but since it is pretty
old, it does lack some features.

The Duos and the 500 series PowerBooks both have problems with the
batteries. They are all at the age now where they have started to die
natural deaths from old age and it is hard to find one that works anymore.
If battery power is an issue for her, you need to be aware of that and you
need to be aware that replacement batteries, even on ebay, can be kind of
expensive. If you buy a Duo or a 500 series PowerBook, unless you are
getting a new battery with it, you should just count on either getting a
battery that doesn't work or one that is going to die on you within a year.
You might get lucky, but like I said earlier, they (unfortunately) don't
last forever it is just near the end of the life cycle for these batteries.

The 500 series PowerBooks are great. They are like tanks; nearly
indestructible. The keyboards feel great, the screen is beautiful and you
have all the ports built in vs. the Duo where they have to be added. They
are stable and run just about anything. You can upgrade them if you want to
PPC. (Well, you can do the same with the Duos, but it isn't as easy.) If
your niece is a touch typist and has built up any speed, the keyboard should
be a consideration. (Hey, it happens... they taught my oldest last year when
she was 9...) She can fly on the 500 series, but she will have some problems
with the Duos. They weren't built for speed. On the other, other hand, the
duo keyboard is smaller and easier sometimes for little hands to navigate.

Then again, you need to consider how she is going to output the data. If she
plans to print, you'll need to get a serial cable for the Duo and be able to
connect somehow to a serial connection (LocalTalk network or direct to
serial printer). Or, you'll need to get her an external floppy and some type
of dock that will allow her to connect it to the Duo. Or... well, you get
the idea. Lots of options. The 500 series PowerBooks of course come with the
floppy installed and have all connectivity options built in: ethernet,
serial port as well as an ADB port.
 
 My niece loves to do two things: write, and play with PowerPoint.
 I've got every word processor known to man, so I thought I could
 install WordPerfect, which is free, and an old copy of Word 5.1 that
 I no longer use. These would integrate smoothly with Windows-versions
 on my sister's PC, so my niece could copy a file to a PC-formatted
 floppy and print via the PC.

Word 5.1 would be great. I used it years ago and loved it. You may find that
you will want to choose one or the other, since the disk space is going to
be a bit limited on these older models. There are lots of freeware programs
for productivity and entertainment they she may want to get as well.
 
 What I don't know about is PowerPoint. I don't know anything about
 its version history and compatibility with various versions of the
 Mac OS-and I don't know where to get my hands on a vintage version.

The one that came with the version of 

Re: Re-celling 500 series batteries... Re: Need recommendation forniece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread Brian


given that 500 series batteries can cost up to US$150 each (and they take
two for decent battery life) I'd be really interested in giving it a go. if
anyone's got any first hand experience or idea, please tell.

http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro/520_Fixes/520__540.htm

might have been the page you found?

B

--



-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Re-celling 500 series batteries... Re: Need recommendationfor niece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 6/30/02 1:52 PM, b e n  w e l l s  |  headwerkx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 just as a side question from Jim's comments about old the condition of old
 Powerbook batteries these days and their hellish replacement cost, I've read
 in a few places that, quite cheaply, Powerbook batteries can have new
 battery cells wired into their specific casings for a fraction of the cost
 of a replacement battery unit.
 
 basically it is supposed to involve splitting open the case and soldering in
 the cells with whatever equivalents you can find at your local
 Tandy/RadioShack. Sounds simple enough. i remember reading one site about a
 week ago on it (when I was looking for something else), didn't bookmark it
 (stoopid!) and now can't find it.
 
 given that 500 series batteries can cost up to US$150 each (and they take
 two for decent battery life) I'd be really interested in giving it a go. if
 anyone's got any first hand experience or idea, please tell.
 
I did go to the site (and yes, it is the one someone else just sent) and
found it to be somewhat informative. I was hoping for something a little
more detailed for those of us who are electronic component challenged, but
I still found it to be pretty helpful.

I've done some extensive searches on google looking for sites with
advice/instructions about rebuilding all sorts of PowerBook batteries
(especially for Duos and 500's), but I haven't had any luck. I guess I'm
going to end up just trying to crack one open and see what happens from
there. If anyone has *any* links to items like this, please post.

Thanks,

Jim


-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Re-celling 500 series batteries... Re: Need recommendation forniece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx

that's the one... ta!

doesn't look too difficult... will probably give it a shot soon, I don't
think my batteries are charging at all, and I can't do all the
conditioning/EMMpathy stuff until I get the HD working.
Ben.


- Original Message -
From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PowerBooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: Re-celling 500 series batteries... Re: Need recommendation
forniece's 1st Powerbook



 given that 500 series batteries can cost up to US$150 each (and they take
 two for decent battery life) I'd be really interested in giving it a go.
if
 anyone's got any first hand experience or idea, please tell.

 http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro/520_Fixes/520__540.htm

 might have been the page you found?

 B

 --



 --
 PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

   Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
   -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

   Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

 PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
   -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
 Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

 Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com



-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




PB1400 - GW Solo 2100

2002-06-30 Thread Tom Lisa P


I thought this was kind of interesting.  I was looking over  a 
Gateway Solo 2100 portable computer that  friend had.  Because he had 
several and he is also a mad scientist, he let me take it apart. 
While doing so I noticed some really incredible similarities to the 
apple PB1400.

The batteries are almost identical.  The only difference that I cand 
find in the NiMH batts is that the gateway battery has a slightly 
different front lip which just barely prevents the battery from 
locking into the PB1400.  A little knife work might fix that.  Some 
of the later solos came with Li-ion batts - I wonder if those would 
work

The Gateway layout is very close to the mac.  The PCMCIA card bay is 
in the same place, the CD/floppy bay is in the same place, and 
_almost_ fits an apple CD ROM (probably the casing, not the 
mechanism).  The CPU is in the same spot, and you get into the guts 
of the book by pulling off the top grill.

The gateway I saw had a 12.1 active matrix screen, and did not look 
to be compatible with the PB1400. However, some Solo 2100 come with 
11.3 passive matrix screens, which just might be the same as with 
the apple.

Thats a whole lot of coincidence

Mad Dog

-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Need recommendation for niece's 1st Powerbook

2002-06-30 Thread vicki

If you don't need the ppc processor why not go for a 1xx series or if 
you want colour go for the 190cs these wher very nice powerbooks and 
good for kids to use.

vicki

william ahearn wrote:

 Scott Holder wrote:
 
 Depending on exact needs, one of the Duos would be about perfect. 
 Especially with Internet not being an issue, as the primary problem with 
 Duos is the lack of external connectivity. Their primary advantage is being 
 small and cheap. Even a PowerPC 2300c can be had for ~$50, which leaves 
 extra for a minidock or floppy microdock. The lack of external connectivity 
 means no built-in floppy, but it also makes extended lap use a lot more 
 pleasant because they weigh practically nothing. I've had a 280c as my 
 primary laptop for awhile now and wouldn't trade it for a TiBook (okay.. 
 maybe I would... but I'm trying to make a point). The various docks and 
 things may sound complicated, but they aren't. More or less plug and play.
 
 If she needs any PPC software (would let her run a much newer versoin of 
 Powerpoint), a 2300c would work. Otherwise, I'd recommend a 280c as 
 well-written 68k code can run as fast or faster than PPC code on a 2300c.
 
 
 
 I -- more or less -- completely agree 
 with the above. I think the 500 series 
 would be a mistake. A color Duo -- like 
 the 2300c -- would be ideal.
 
 William


-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: PB1400 - GW Solo 2100

2002-06-30 Thread vicki



Hi Mad dog

First do you pull everything to bits.

There are a lot of similarities i acer notebooks of the extensa 355 
range also.

The screen is the same just different mounting holes(same connectors on 
screen and motherboard), the pcmcia cage is also the same and the track 
pad. i also used the floppy from an acer to replace the floppy inside 
the moduale of my 5300c before i sold it.

I am very glad to see that it is not only me that has to find out how 
things work before i use them.

Victoria.



-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: PB1400 - GW Solo 2100

2002-06-30 Thread Tom Lisa P

Hi Mad dog

First do you pull everything to bits.

There are a lot of similarities i acer notebooks of the extensa 355
range also.

The screen is the same just different mounting holes(same connectors on
screen and motherboard), the pcmcia cage is also the same and the track
pad. i also used the floppy from an acer to replace the floppy inside
the moduale of my 5300c before i sold it.

I am very glad to see that it is not only me that has to find out how
things work before i use them.

Victoria.


Was the screen compatible ?

It seems to be too much of a coincidence.

Mad Dog

-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: PB1400 - GW Solo 2100

2002-06-30 Thread vicki




 
 
 Was the screen compatible ?
 
 It seems to be too much of a coincidence.
 
 Mad Dog
YES.

It was the same screen 11.3 the only differances with it is the metal 
caseing that goes around the screen to bolt to the book cover.

even the connectors fit.

i still have a spare pcmcia cage from an acer and that looks identical 
to the one that is in my 1400 now i will check if that work also not 
this week though. i have sick babies in the house.

I know the track pad works as i used that in the 5300 also and then 
installed the clickpad software to make it tapable.

Victoria.



-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




PB 5300 Power Manager

2002-06-30 Thread Chuck

How do I reset the power manager?
I bought a 5300 and the battery has no charge. I put a known working
battery in the 5300 and the PB still won't start off the battery. After
starting from the power supply the known fully charged battery appears
uncharged yet when removed and put back in my 3400 it works fine. I've
left the battery which came with the 5300 in the unit for 72 hours with
the power supply attached and still no charge taking place.
I suspect the power manager needs a reset or else the battery charger
board is bad. I've checked the battery contact prongs and they're making
solid contact with the battery.
FYI: The PRAM battery is drained also as date/time corrections won't
retain after restart from the power supply.
Thanks for your time and, please, no 5300 jokes.
Chuck


-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




5300 Car Adaptor

2002-06-30 Thread Janice Freeman

I have been given a car adapter marked DLP-1033; HYOSUNG. It fits in my
5300, but does anyone know if it will work?
Thanks,
Janice 


-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: Seagate Barracude and 6100 and duo music

2002-06-30 Thread Frank Modica

I'm the original poster about the Seagate Barracuda, 6100, and an external
drive case. Actually, I meant to post the message to the Powermacs list
(opps!!!) and wondered why it wasn't showing up in the digest or archives.

Anyway, I have an old Mac hard drive case that originally held a Mac 20 mb
hard drive ( Apple Hard Disk 20SC). It is now working fine with my original
Quantum 2 GB drive after some judicious troubleshooting.  The SCSI ID for
that external drive is 4; I checked the settings from the Quantum web site.
However, I'm wondering if the power supply for that case powerful enough to
handle a 1/2 height 9.1 GB Seagate Barracuda?  I wanted that much storage
to back up information from my Duo, pb170, 540c (son's computer), and my
6100, so I can somewhat keep this thread about powerbooks.  I also have
been converting CD tracks from my home collection to MP3's.

BTW, I have been using my 2300 duo as a portable MP3 player. At home I
connect it to my home stero, though the sound comes out mono. However, when
I use headphones from a portable CD player, the sound comes out stereo. Is
there any way to  play the music on my duo through my car cassete player?
I have a portable CD player with one of those tape thingies that let you
use the car stereo. Is there any way to connect the duo to the CD player?
I'm using SoundAPP PPC to convert the tracks to AIFF and Blade ENC to
convert the tracks to MP3'S. SoundAPP also does a reasonable job of
creating playlists and playing those MP3'S.

Frank C. Modica
501 E. Green St.
Urbana, IL. 61802 USA
1-217-367-4133



-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Custom Painted PowerBook Wallstreet Gallery!

2002-06-30 Thread Christopher Kolp

Hey all!

I recently ran into this site that showcases customized PowerBook 
Wallstreet G3s.

This may be old news but I had yet to see them of this quality.

Has anyone had any experiences with painting theirs?

Here's a gallery of some AMAZING ones.

http://www.powerbook.org/soberay/Gallery-e.html

Any feedback is appreciated! I'll be calling the local auto paint shops 
to see
if they'll spray the case plastics if I take it apart and mask it!

-Chris Kolp


-- 
PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

  Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
  -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

PowerBooks list info:   http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com