Re: help

[Joost van de Griek]

On 2003-03-10 02:56, "Malcolm Cornelius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 10/03/03 01:48, J. Wrobel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone know of this:  I have a PB 1400c and its hard drive crashed while
>> SCSI disked to my G4.  I have tried everything to get this thing to start up.
>> It starts with a happy mac and then goes to a disk/question mark.  I have
>> tried to mount it in OS 9 (originally I mounted it in OS X jaguar) with no
>> luck (I even used "Mount Everything").  I then was frustrated, took out the
>> hard drive and hooked it to my PM G4 directly (with a 2.5 adapter) without
>> any other disks hooked into the bus.  I then tried to start with a NORTON U.
>> disk (holding C key down) but it would NOT start up from the CD!  HELP
>> PLEASE!
> 
> CTL+OPT+SHIFT+DEL on a 1400 IIRC

Almost. Command-Option-Shift-Delete is the one you're looking for.

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Re: help

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 10/03/03 09:16, Joost van de Griek at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> CTL+OPT+SHIFT+DEL on a 1400 IIRC
> 
> Almost. Command-Option-Shift-Delete is the one you're looking for.

Oops late night typing !

Malcolm


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Re: help

[Joost van de Griek]

On 2003-03-10 11:28, "Malcolm Cornelius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 10/03/03 09:16, Joost van de Griek at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>> CTL+OPT+SHIFT+DEL on a 1400 IIRC
>> 
>> Almost. Command-Option-Shift-Delete is the one you're looking for.
> 
> Oops late night typing !

Yes, we all desperately need brand new PowerBooks with backlit keyboards.
:-P

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Re: help

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 10/03/03 10:44, Joost van de Griek at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CTL+OPT+SHIFT+DEL on a 1400 IIRC
>>> 
>>> Almost. Command-Option-Shift-Delete is the one you're looking for.
>> 
>> Oops late night typing !
> 
> Yes, we all desperately need brand new PowerBooks with backlit keyboards.
> :-P

I dream ...

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Re: help

[Justin Stewart]

We all dream...   :-(
--- Malcolm Cornelius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Yes, we all desperately need brand new PowerBooks
> with backlit keyboards.
> > :-P
> 
> I dream ...
> 
> Malcolm


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Bugbear virus and LEM lists

[Dan Knight]

A former member of the PCI PowerMacs list was alerted to the presence of 
a virus on a message purportedly sent from pci-powermacs. He emailed the 
following:

>This morning I received an email (apparantly) from 
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>Our virus scanning software, carefully updated by our professional 
>paranoids, alerted me to the fact that it contained a bugbear a virus in 
>an attachment (filename cotter.dat.scr)
>
>The email message itself seems real enough, until you look at the dates; 
>look at the bottom of this mail.

A little research on the bugbear virus turns up the following:

1. It installs itself in the Startup folder of any version of Windows 
later than 3.1.

2. It attempts to use any SMTP (email sending) resources on the infected 
computer to create mass mailings.

3. It attempts to install itself on other computers on the network.

4. It attempts to create a backdoor on the infected computer that the 
worm's creator could use to access the computer in the future.

5. It will send emails from "safe looking" bogus email addresses (such as 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of @maclaunch.com) to addresses it 
finds. It also seems to quote part of an email from that user ID to make 
the message look more authentic.

You may be tipped off by a strange date, an unusual return address, or 
your virus checker going off (Windows users should always run virus 
checking -- users with other operating systems cannot be infected by this 
and most other viruses).

These messages are not from our lists or our server; the bugbear worm can 
only be propagated by Windows computers. However, at first glance they 
may appear to come from us, so Windows users should be careful when 
checking list messages.

And we can all wonder when Microsoft is going to get serious about secure 
computing. The level of insecurity that gave birth to tens of thousands 
of worms and viruses in simply unacceptable, yet over 90% of all computer 
users take it in stride as something normal they have to deal with.

Thank goodness we only use Macs for production and *nix servers for our 
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Re: help

[COCCORP]

In a message dated 3/10/03 5:16:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Almost. Command-Option-Shift-Delete is the one you're looking for.

For those of us who are uninitaited/uninformed/clueless, what exactly does 
this command allow?

Crazy Craig W.

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Re: help

[Joost van de Griek]

On 2003-03-10 15:28, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In a message dated 3/10/03 5:16:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>> Almost. Command-Option-Shift-Delete is the one you're looking for.
> 
> For those of us who are uninitaited/uninformed/clueless, what exactly does
> this command allow?

It doesn't allow anything. It prohibits booting from the internal hard
drive.

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dream (was: re: help)

[A. Dishinger]

LOL ;-P

Yes... we all dream... but I know we also still all love our dear little 
5300/1400/290/180/170/100 machines... ;-)  I admit it, I drag out the 170 every 
now and again just to say "hi" and type a little on that
keyboard...

I saw, while in transit thru the student union a few days ago, this sweet-looking 
*tiny* little Mac laptop with yes, a backlit keyboard (or glow in the dark or 
something "hip" about its vibe) and I asked the young man behind
the counter a little about the machine...

...coming away from that short conversation I knew it was just a little G3, maybe it 
had twice the RAM I do, but big deal...

One of our 1400cs machines took a spectacular fall a few weeks ago, a heartwrenching 5 
foot curving plummet onto a concrete floor that we only heard, not saw (thank the 
cats) and -- no damage. None.

Amazing.

~Aly + 1400cs/G3/xtraRAM = *love*

Justin Stewart wrote:

> We all dream...   :-(

> --- Malcolm Cornelius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Yes, we all desperately need brand new PowerBooks
> > with backlit keyboards.
> > > :-P



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Re: 5300 OS's

[Andrew Kershaw]

>Just as a BTW, I've a copy of SpeedDoubler 2 that I'm running on a IIci,
>with 7.5.5. It's only 156K--I could send it attached, or upload it to
>my website as a self-extracting archive. I really can't see that it's
>faster than the other IIci running next to it without SD.
>

Well, that makes sense.  Speed Doubler doesn't do much for 68k macs 
(ok, it does make an attempt at multithreading - like emptying the 
trash can in the background, copying files in the background, etc.  I 
guess it also has that "smart copy" feature...).  It's biggest 
benefit is for low end PowerPC Macs.  Speed Doubler has a more 
efficient 68040 emulation routine than earlier PowerPCs/System 7/OS 
8.1.  System 7 and OS 8.0/1, I believe, emulate a 68020 (for 
compatibility) on PowerPC.  And they do it inefficiently.  Installing 
Speed Doubler on something like a 61xx, 71x0, 81x0, 62xx, 6300, 
LC52xx, LC53xx, 5300, 1400, or 2300 should increase the speed of 68k 
apps when running System 7.x or OS 8 prior to 8.5.  Some say that the 
difference is dramatic.

I can't see any reason why you need to run Speed Doubler on a IIci. 
Unless, of course, you like painstakingly slow file copies.

OS 8.5 has an updated 68k emulator that implements a 68LC040 (IIRC) 
and is far faster than it's predecessors.  On macs with this OS, the 
benefit of Speed Doubler is essentially nil.

In any case, your OS choice is as subjective as your choice of 
favorite color.  It's no surprise that system 7.6.1 is faster than OS 
8.5.  I choose 8.6 because I can live with the relatively slower boot 
times, app launch times, and certain finder operations.  OTOH, I find 
myself MUCH more happy with a multithreaded operating system, pretty 
icons, menu clicks that you don't have to hold down, pop-up windows, 
spring loaded folders, Apple-Delete trashing of files, and the 
ability to run modern applications.  OTOOH, I don't go to OS 9 
because I'm happy with the 8.6 feature set and don't want the added 
speed hit that OS 9 would bring.  So, picking an OS is like picking a 
toothbrush ;-)  Get the one that does the job and feels best. 
Whether it's a new-fangled "sonic" toothbrush or one made of wood, it 
still cleans your teeth.  Or something.  I'm tired... ;-)

Peace,
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Re: Apple's Warning to ATA/IDE users

[Bruce Johnson]

Joost van de Griek wrote:

> Actually, it's not all that weird. Using a regular SCSI cable, the PowerBook
> would indeed see (and mount) all the Quadra's drives on the SCSI chain.
> However, the fact that both motherboard SCSI controllers will be set to SCSI
> ID 7, would cause some serious ID conflict issues. This might explain all
> the I/O and data corruption errors.

Never having done this, I'll trust your experience...myself, I would 
have thought they simply wouldn't work at all (due to 2 ID 7's on the bus)

Also, a regular SCSI cable would have to go through a gender changer to 
do this.

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Re: 5300 OS's

[Donn Haven Lathrop]

>>I can't see any reason why you need to run Speed Doubler on a IIci. 
Unless, of course, you like painstakingly slow file copies.<<

Used machine.  It was there, and I couldn't see that it made much of a
difference on or off.

>> Get the one that does the job and feels best. <<

Quod erat demonstrandum.

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Bootable CDs and CD drives

[Dan K]

Robert Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Subject: Re: Clearing up an old argumentfinally spelled right
>
>>  ...my external CD-ROM's software operates as an extension...how
>>  on earth could I use it to install software? Would not the OS
>>  CD-ROM have to be used as the startup disc?
>
>  So, hold down the c key and use the OS CD as the startup disk.

This is one of those persistant misunderstandings relating to Apple's 
closed CD driver. Whether Apple's CD driver may or may not work with your 
third party CD drive is almost entirely irrelevant when booting from a 
bootable CD.

Definitions:
 CD - the shiny disk itself, including commercial 'stamped' CDs,
  and CD-R and RWs
 CD reader or drive - the box plugged somehow into your Mac
  that spins and reads the CD
 CD driver - the software the Mac uses to access the CD reader 
hardware
and the information on the CD itself

A CD is not bootable unless it has a disk driver written to its 
bootblocks, an area of the CD which nearly all CD drives can read before 
any driver has loaded. The driver in the CD's bootblocks is not visible 
on the CD itself but _is_ there (else the CD wouldn't be bootable.) This 
driver is almost totally make-model-ROM agnostic. It doesn't care if the 
CD drive is an Apple mechanism or not, but will load and boot from most 
any CD reader. The few times I've been unable to boot from a CD mechanism 
have all been caused by problems other than the CD drive's 
make-model-"ROM"s, including defective drives, bad cabling, scsi ID and 
term problems, incompatible CD-R media etc.

The CD's driver is not the driver inside a bootable CDs System Folder, 
it's located in the CD's bootblocks and doesn't care a whit if Apple's 
"ROM"s are present in the reader's hardware or not.

If one is unable to boot from a known-good bootable CD, the chances are 
extremely good the problem is _not_ the make, model or "ROM"s of the CD 
drive. To boot from a _known_good_bootable_ CD (some already mentioned by 
others):

* hold down the "C" key immediately after startup chimes. Implimented in 
most
 models from the LC III onward, the Mac tries to boot from the 
default CD device 
 address. In Macs which shipped with scsi CD drives the default 
address is
 scsi bus 0: ID 3, Macs with atapi CD drives boot from ATA bus 1: 
master (IIRC).

 As noted, atypically for Macs of its era, the PB1400 cannot be 
booted from
 its internal CD drive using the "C" key, why this is so I'd like to 
know. I wonder
 if it will boot from an external scsi CD at ID3? I'll have to test 
this sometime . . .

* hold down cmd-option-shift-delete, which forces the Mac to 
 disregard the previously chosen boot _device_ (NOT volume) and 
search for other 
 bootable devices. However if bootable disks or devices other than 
the CD drive are
 present the Mac may boot from one of those before it finds the CD.

* Physically disconnect any other devices, bootable and otherwise, 
usually not easy on a PB, but as 
 with all troubleshooting, the simpler the configuration the easier 
the TSing.

* Ensure the CD reader is actually functional, including the cabling,
 jumper settings (ID or master/slave), and termination (if scsi). 
 It's surprisingly easy to overlook this basic troubleshooting step.

* Some CD readers have trouble reading some CD-R or (RW) media
 brands and/or types, so knowing a CD-R will boot one Mac
 does not ensure it will boot in any Mac's CD reader. Generally 
however
 if the CD-R _media_ is readable in the suspect configuration, it 
will be
 bootable as well (assuming it's been correctly made.)

Any questions?

Dan K

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PB 5300cs Questions?

[Jason White]

Hi all,

I just installed a 32M RAM module into my 5300cs (had a 16M module 
before) and wanted to do some more stuff to it.

I currently have OS 7.6.1 on it. I have OS 8 (and the 8.1 updater), but 
was wondering if it would be wise to update. The machine currently has 
48M in it, with the stock 770M HD. Pretty much all I use it for is Office 
98, and a few games. 

Also, I have Speed Doubler 1.32 (?) on it now. If I upgraded to 8, would 
this program still work, or would I have to find a newer version? It made 
a noticeable difference with 7.6.1.

And finally, when I first installed the 16M card about a year ago, I 
realized one of the keyboard screws (the three on the bottom of the case) 
was stripped, and decided not to replace it after the trouble I had 
getting it out. Does anyone know what what type of screw this is 
(diameter and thread) so I may be able to buy a new one at my local 
hardware store? Or does anyone know where I could buy one (or even all 
three if I had to)? The one place I saw that had them had a $25 minimum 
order and the screws were only a buck or two. I tried a wanted to buy on 
the swaplist, but got no replies.

Thanks,



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Re: PB 5300cs Questions?

[Bruce Johnson]

Jason White wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed a 32M RAM module into my 5300cs (had a 16M module 
> before) and wanted to do some more stuff to it.
> 
> I currently have OS 7.6.1 on it. I have OS 8 (and the 8.1 updater), but 
> was wondering if it would be wise to update. The machine currently has 
> 48M in it, with the stock 770M HD. Pretty much all I use it for is Office 
> 98, and a few games. 
> 
> Also, I have Speed Doubler 1.32 (?) on it now. If I upgraded to 8, would 
> this program still work, or would I have to find a newer version? It made 
> a noticeable difference with 7.6.1.

I don't know about speed doubler, but 8.1 will be a bit slower, but, 
imo, much more reliable and usable than 7.6.1, given that this is a PPC 
system.

I have 8.6 running on one right now, and it's quite usable; I'd had 9.1 
on it and it was horribly slow, but that could well have been because 
the HD was flaky...when I tried to re-format it, it wouldn't, and when I 
looked at it in Drive setup it had three partitions where there had only 
been one before

Replaced the drive and it's much better. before it would take 45 seconds 
to a minute to start up programs. Much faster now.


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Re: help

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In a message dated 3/10/03 11:21:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>>> Almost. Command-Option-Shift-Delete is the one you're looking for.
>> 
>> For those of us who are uninitaited/uninformed/clueless, what exactly
>does
>> this command allow?
>
>It doesn't allow anything. It prohibits booting from the internal hard
>drive.

Great. Then it "allows" you to skip the internal HD when booting. Thanks...

(sar)Castic Craig W.

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PB 1400 screen (looking for)

[Richard Skipp]

Hi All,

I'm searching for a new screen for my PB 1400c. The original was active
matrix. I'd prefer another one like it of course, But the passive matrix
will do fine.

I'm up in Canada if that matters. Anybody know of any good deals around?

Thanks,


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Re: help

[Jason White]

 Almost. Command-Option-Shift-Delete is the one you're looking for.
>>> 
>>> For those of us who are uninitaited/uninformed/clueless, what exactly
>>does
>>> this command allow?
>>
>>It doesn't allow anything. It prohibits booting from the internal hard
>>drive.
>
>Great. Then it "allows" you to skip the internal HD when booting. Thanks...

I just resubscribed to this list and didn't catch any of this thread, but 
from what I read here it may be something I'm interested in as well.

I'm thinking of upgrading my OS on my 5300cs from 7.6.1 to 8.1. Can I put 
the 8.1 install on en external HD and boot from it to see how I like it 
before I install it on the internal HD? Is the SCSI bus roughly the same 
speed as the internal IDE(?) bus? If it matters the drive will probably 
be a 1.2G Quantum pulled from an 8500.

Thanks,


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Re: PB 1400 screen (looking for)

[DavidWedge]

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In a message dated 3/10/03 7:02:42 PM, you wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I'm searching for a new screen for my PB 1400c. The original was active
>matrix. I'd prefer another one like it of course, But the passive matrix
>will do fine.
>
>I'm up in Canada if that matters. Anybody know of any good deals around?
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Richard
>

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Re: PB520 line-in port

[Tom kW.]

To record voice into a PB520 (from a microphone), do I need to run a
line-out from a tapedeck to the line-in of the 520, or does any kind of
microphone work directly plugged into the port? My Apple microphone does not
seem to work when plugged in here.
Thanks
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Re: PB 1400 screen (looking for)

[DavidWedge]

ooops.. sorry to post to the group.. : )

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SpeedDoubler/RamDoubler

[joelefstein11]

I am a PB5300ce user seeking SpeedDoubler and RamDoubler.  Anyone who might
have this for sale, please contact me. Thanks.


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floppy drive for 1400

[J . Wrobel]

Does anyone know where to get a decent (cheap) 3.5 floppy disk drive 
for a PB 1400c?  The replacement with exchange for the built in is $89. 
  External USBs are about $40, but I don't know if they make a drive 
that can plug into the back of a PB (SCSI 30  pin or ADB or something 
to make a USB port).  Is there a cheap USB adapter for the PC card slot 
or something?  HELP!

Thanks!
Jeff


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Drivers for EtherMac PB Adapter on PB 140

[Frost Back]

Hi. I'm trying to set up a PowerBook 140. I've had no
luck getting an Asante Mini EN/SC to work, but at
least I fournd drivers. I'm now trying to get a
Farallon EtherMac Mac/PB Adapter, part number
PN550C-ADB to work instead. However, there appear to
be no drivers for it available on the web. I've
checked Farallon's site, which is now owned by
Proxima, and they no longer have any old Mac software
drivers available. And all the download links I find
on the web point to ftp.farallon.com, which no longer
exists. I was hoping someone could let me know where I
might find the file "AdapterSetup2.2.hqx" which
appears to be the appropriate driver software.


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mac os 7.1.1 on floppy disk

[Justin C Rouzzo]

how can i install mac os 7.1.1 on a floppy or mabe get a boot disk for it?
(besides the disktools disk)

   any help appriceated

thanks

  justin rouzzo


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Re: floppy drive for 1400

[MW]

I would check out ebay.

-Original Message-
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Wrobel
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:02 PM
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Subject: floppy drive for 1400



Does anyone know where to get a decent (cheap) 3.5 floppy disk drive 
for a PB 1400c?  The replacement with exchange for the built in is $89. 
  External USBs are about $40, but I don't know if they make a drive 
that can plug into the back of a PB (SCSI 30  pin or ADB or something 
to make a USB port).  Is there a cheap USB adapter for the PC card slot 
or something?  HELP!

Thanks!
Jeff


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Re: Drivers for EtherMac PB Adapter on PB 140

[Dan K]

On 3/11/03 Frost Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi. I'm trying to set up a PowerBook 140. I've had no
>luck getting an Asante Mini EN/SC to work, but at
>least I fournd drivers. I'm now trying to get a
>Farallon EtherMac Mac/PB Adapter, part number
>PN550C-ADB to work instead. However, there appear to
>be no drivers for it available on the web. I've
>checked Farallon's site, which is now owned by
>Proxima, and they no longer have any old Mac software
>drivers available. And all the download links I find
>on the web point to ftp.farallon.com, which no longer
>exists. I was hoping someone could let me know where I
>might find the file "AdapterSetup2.2.hqx" which
>appears to be the appropriate driver software.

You need no driver, use the MacIP setting in the Network CP and the 
adapter does the converting to TCP/IP. IIRC, you'll need to set the IP 
manually when using MacIP (been awhile since I last used it.)

I've got a couple of these and they work dandy, though speed is of course 
limited to the serial port's slow pace. They're also a great solution for 
adding older AT printers such as LaserWriters to an ethernet network.

If you can, install the drivers for the EN/SC, as that device is much 
faster than any serial port solution. Note that you must use the 
installer, it places a resource into your System file.

hth,

Dan K

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Re: floppy drive for 1400

[David Allen]

Also ask on the LEM Swap list.

There are no options for USB on the 1400. (unfortunately) The USB cards
all require a newer version PCMCIA than is available on the 1400.

On occasion a deal can be had, but 1400s are such good little machines
that many horde their parts "just in case" they find another 1400.

I'm up to 2 now, fully set up except they are "cs" versions. (I even have
an original Apple Presentation System for each of them.) One day I'll find
some "c" screens really cheap and the upgrading will be complete. (of
course then I'll need some 1400s with bad screens so that the "cs" screens
get used and then it will start all over again.  But, honestly doc, I'm
not addicted!!?)

David Allen

MW wrote:

> I would check out ebay.


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