Re: free for parts, 5300cs

[J Worgan]

I didn't see the next email which already asks for it - sorry.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:05 AM
Subject: free for parts, 5300cs


> Greetings,
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> Been away for a few years, but used to frequent this list. Anyway,
> I've got a powerbook 5300cs that I'm offering for the price of
> shipping. Rumor has it was working just fine shortly before I
> acquired it. However, someone managed to snap the screen off. May
> have been stiff hinges. Most -- perhaps even all -- of the working
> parts are fine. My preference is to give the machine to somebody
> who's trying to keep an old workhorse alive, not to feed the ebay
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Re: free for parts, 5300cs

[J Worgan]

is this still available? I have been working on a couple of 5300cs for my
daughters for college and could use the spare parts.

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Subject: free for parts, 5300cs


> Greetings,
>
> Been away for a few years, but used to frequent this list. Anyway,
> I've got a powerbook 5300cs that I'm offering for the price of
> shipping. Rumor has it was working just fine shortly before I
> acquired it. However, someone managed to snap the screen off. May
> have been stiff hinges. Most -- perhaps even all -- of the working
> parts are fine. My preference is to give the machine to somebody
> who's trying to keep an old workhorse alive, not to feed the ebay
> parts market.
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> Cheers,
>
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Re: free for parts, 5300cs

[Krow Magnum]

Hi Erik,

I've been looking for a Powerbook for a hack project and the 5300 you
have sounds perfect sonce I will be removing the display and mounting
the whole thing inside an old Apple III monitor case.

PLMK if it's still available and what it would take to get it to me
here in Florida (32905).

Thanks,

Ron

On 10/18/05, Erik Ness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Been away for a few years, but used to frequent this list. Anyway,
> I've got a powerbook 5300cs that I'm offering for the price of
> shipping. Rumor has it was working just fine shortly before I
> acquired it. However, someone managed to snap the screen off. May
> have been stiff hinges. Most -- perhaps even all -- of the working
> parts are fine. My preference is to give the machine to somebody
> who's trying to keep an old workhorse alive, not to feed the ebay
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>
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free for parts, 5300cs

[Erik Ness]

Greetings,

Been away for a few years, but used to frequent this list. Anyway, 
I've got a powerbook 5300cs that I'm offering for the price of 
shipping. Rumor has it was working just fine shortly before I 
acquired it. However, someone managed to snap the screen off. May 
have been stiff hinges. Most -- perhaps even all -- of the working 
parts are fine. My preference is to give the machine to somebody 
who's trying to keep an old workhorse alive, not to feed the ebay 
parts market.


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Re: 5300cs battery

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On Monday, June 6, 2005, at 09:02  AM, Wanda K. wrote:




I  have a 5300cs that I have got loaded with OS 8.5 and I chareged the
battery and it was showing full all bars and 2 hours and a half in the
control strip and it suddenly flashed a no reserve power remains and 
shut

off. How does that work?

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Re: 5300cs battery

[Geoffrey Davis]

How does that work?

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Obviously, not very well...ha.
How old is the battery? Has it been holding its full charge up until now?

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5300cs battery

[Wanda K.]

I  have a 5300cs that I have got loaded with OS 8.5 and I chareged the
battery and it was showing full all bars and 2 hours and a half in the
control strip and it suddenly flashed a no reserve power remains and shut
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Re: 5300cs battery question

[Yersinia]

Andy Dunn writes,



Well -- when it comes to my Powerbook (5300c, but I have a 190 too), I 
like that old cliche, "better safe than sorry." Which means -- not only 
wouldn't I leave a dead battery in my PB, but I'd get rid of them 
outright if I were you. Battery acid is nasty stuff, you know.

Since you say BOTH your batteries are dead, GOOD batteries for 5300/190 
Powerbooks (Model No. M3254, NiMH) can be had cheap from Nexcomp: 

http://www.nexcomp.com

And since my 190 is semi-retired on the count of having gotten a 5300c, 
I'm storing it (battery bay empty) in a bedside drawer which normally 
stays closed to keep it clean.

~Yersinia.



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Re: 5300cs battery question

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On Sunday 05 June 2005 01:52, Andy Dunn wrote:
> I have a 5300cs with two completely dead batteries (one was used up, the
> other I received when I purchased a refurbished unit and won't work because
> of its age). I'm just wondering if I'm going to wreck my PB if I leave a
> dead battery in the bay; it never gets warm and there's no sign of leaking.
>  I'm leaving it in to keep dust and other debris out of the computer.

I have a 190 that I do that with, and I haven't had any problems, yet. Of 
course, I also have a good battery to put in it when I'm about to leave the 
house, but I don't see any harm in that, as long as you check to make sure it 
isn't leaking, occasionally. 

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5300cs battery question

[Andy Dunn]

I have a 5300cs with two completely dead batteries (one was used up, the other I
received when I purchased a refurbished unit and won't work because of its 
age). 
I'm just wondering if I'm going to wreck my PB if I leave a dead battery in the 
bay;
it never gets warm and there's no sign of leaking.  I'm leaving it in to keep 
dust
and other debris out of the computer.

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Re: 5300cs shell

[Jennifer Worgan]

anyone have a 5300 for parts only, no valueable working parts like drives or
modems or LCD screens for that matter, what I need is a good case with good
hinges and no cracks? cheap?

thank you,



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Re: PowerBook 5300CS power cord?

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--- Clarence Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What AC adoptor power cords are compatible 
> with the PowerBook 5300CS?

The whole adapter or just the cord?  All the AC side
power cords fit.  The 45W adapter is M3037.  I have an
extra one if you need it.



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Re: PowerBook 5300CS power cord?

[Jared Noska]

A 45w which works with a 190 & 5300. Not the 3400's power adapter. 
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PowerBook 5300CS power cord?

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What AC adoptor power cords are compatible with the
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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

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Used computer stores or ebay for dongle

Any scsi external that will work with Mac system CD software in external
box; maybe it doesn't need a box?

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> i have a Powerbook 5300cs, with a Powerport Platinum Pro 28.8kbps 
> /10base-T ethernet without the dongle .. i wonder where to get it? ... 
> other thing is since u can't load any other OS on the powerbook 
> without a cdrom .. can someone tell what other powerbooks cdrom's r 
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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

[Jonathan Calderon]

Jonathan Calderon wrote:
i have a Powerbook 5300cs, with a Powerport Platinum Pro 28.8kbps 
/10base-T ethernet without the dongle .. i wonder where to get it? ... 
other thing is since u can't load any other OS on the powerbook 
without a cdrom .. can someone tell what other powerbooks cdrom's r 
compatible with this one?


thanks guys for the replies.. now i wanna know if  linux fits on this 
laptop .. if it does wich one?

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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

[Manfred]

> >> i have a Powerbook 5300cs, with a Powerport Platinum Pro 28.8kbps
> >> /10base-T ethernet without the dongle .. i wonder where to get it? ...
> >> other thing is since u can't load any other OS on the powerbook without
> >> a cdrom .. can someone tell what other powerbooks cdrom's r compatible
> >> with this one?
> > 
> > The cdroms from 190, 3400, 3500 should fit.
> 
> No such thing as a 190/5300 internal CD and the 3400/3500 won't fit, the
> slot isn't big enough.

Uhm, sorry for the wrong information. I confused something...

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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

[Jeff Hubatka]

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 08:42:25 +0100
From: Manfred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: about Powerbook 5300cs
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 02:57:44AM -0400, Jonathan Calderon wrote:
i have a Powerbook 5300cs, with a Powerport Platinum Pro 28.8kbps
/10base-T ethernet without the dongle .. i wonder where to get it? ...
other thing is since u can't load any other OS on the powerbook 
without
a cdrom .. can someone tell what other powerbooks cdrom's r compatible
with this one?
The cdroms from 190, 3400, 3500 should fit.
But you can install another os without a cdrom drive. Make a
boot-floppy with network access and install over the net.
Of course you will need a network and a second machine for this.
I installed my 540c and my LC this way.
The 190 and 5300 did not have CDROM. The only choice is an external 
through the SCSI port. If you get an Apple-branded model it will work 
fine, if you have another type you might need the CDROM driver from 
System 7.5.3 to recognize it.

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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

[J Sand]

Check around for the different prices on the SCSI adapter.  They range from 
about $30 to $15 depending on where you look.  I don't remember who I got 
mine from.


The easiest way to put a CD-ROM on a 5300 is to use an HDI-30 SCSI adapter 
and an external SCSI CD-ROM.

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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

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At 2:57 AM -0400 12/3/04, Jonathan Calderon wrote:
i have a Powerbook 5300cs, with a Powerport Platinum Pro 28.8kbps 
/10base-T ethernet without the dongle .. i wonder where to get it? 
... other thing is since u can't load any other OS on the powerbook 
without a cdrom .. can someone tell what other powerbooks cdrom's r 
compatible with this one?
No PowerBook CD-ROM drive will fit, the 5300 can't take an internal 
CD-ROM drive.  You'll need to hook up an external drive.
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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

[Howard R. Katz]

The easiest way to put a CD-ROM on a 5300 is to use an HDI-30 SCSI adapter 
and an external SCSI CD-ROM.  There's several of the CD-Rom's for sale on 
ebay--here's one that's going for under $15 (the auction ends in just a 
few hours, but there's more listed):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11149&item=5144247864&rd=1
I've used the same setup on my 520c and 5300c without any problems.
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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

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I sure would like to know what a 190 internal CD-ROM is!
The 3400 and 3500s are quite a bit larger than the 5300.  The only 
appear to be the same in photographs.

Lets not forget that you can install Mac OS 7.5.3 using floppy disks 
(19).  And it's free to download from Apple's website.

On Dec 3, 2004, at 1:42 AM, Manfred wrote:
The cdroms from 190, 3400, 3500 should fit.
But you can install another os without a cdrom drive. Make a
boot-floppy with network access and install over the net.
Of course you will need a network and a second machine for this.
I installed my 540c and my LC this way.

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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

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>> i have a Powerbook 5300cs, with a Powerport Platinum Pro 28.8kbps
>> /10base-T ethernet without the dongle .. i wonder where to get it? ...
>> other thing is since u can't load any other OS on the powerbook without
>> a cdrom .. can someone tell what other powerbooks cdrom's r compatible
>> with this one?
> 
> The cdroms from 190, 3400, 3500 should fit.

No such thing as a 190/5300 internal CD and the 3400/3500 won't fit, the
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Re: about Powerbook 5300cs

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On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 02:57:44AM -0400, Jonathan Calderon wrote:
> i have a Powerbook 5300cs, with a Powerport Platinum Pro 28.8kbps 
> /10base-T ethernet without the dongle .. i wonder where to get it? ... 
> other thing is since u can't load any other OS on the powerbook without 
> a cdrom .. can someone tell what other powerbooks cdrom's r compatible 
> with this one?

The cdroms from 190, 3400, 3500 should fit.


But you can install another os without a cdrom drive. Make a
boot-floppy with network access and install over the net.

Of course you will need a network and a second machine for this.

I installed my 540c and my LC this way.

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about Powerbook 5300cs

[Jonathan Calderon]

i have a Powerbook 5300cs, with a Powerport Platinum Pro 28.8kbps 
/10base-T ethernet without the dongle .. i wonder where to get it? ... 
other thing is since u can't load any other OS on the powerbook without 
a cdrom .. can someone tell what other powerbooks cdrom's r compatible 
with this one?

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Re: 5300cs question

[Daniel De L'eau]

Listers,
Still working with my new to me 5300cs and was wondering about
something..
Are the 100mhz versions of this laptop plagued by the same un-Godly
slowness of the 1400cs?
I ask, because my 280c starts up almost twice as fast as the 5300
running the same os (7.6.1), and I've stripped 7.6.1 on the 5300 to reflect
what I have on the 280c..
Any ideas?
-Tia
-nathan

Get SpeedDoubler for any 5300 running anything less than 8.5.  You'll 
need SpeedDoubler 8 if you're using 8.1, SpeedDoubler 2 if you stick 
with 7.6.1.  Older versions don't work with 7.6.

SpeedDoubler's emulation of non-PPC software, especially the OS, is 
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Re: 5300cs question

[Bruce Johnson]

On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, at 06:18 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga 
wrote:

I am quite puzzled concerning the 5300. I have a 190 and a 5300ce side 
by
side.

I feel the 190 faster, at least for menu scrolling, and the feedback. 
The
the 5300 is faster for converting PowerPoint presentations or scroll 
huge
Word files, but in general I feel the 190 more responsive.

It is quite interesting because in 1995-96 the 5300 was described as a 
vast
improvement over the 68040.
It really depends on the OS you're using on each, the disk speed, and 
memory. Always remember percieved speed is due to a number of factors: 
Processor type, processor speed, OS version, memory, bus speed and 
video.

7.6.1 is going to run slower on a PowerPC system than a 68040; this was 
about midway between Apple's switch to the PPC architecture.

8.1 is where PPC systems started running faster, 8.6 is PPC only.
Also, what you're seeing between the 190 and 5300 with menu scrolling 
is the difference in video card, not processor. The processor is coming 
into play when you do conversion, memory and bus speed (for VM) is 
coming into play when you do the scrolling of large documents.

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Re: 5300cs question

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

I am quite puzzled concerning the 5300. I have a 190 and a 5300ce side by
side.

I feel the 190 faster, at least for menu scrolling, and the feedback. The
the 5300 is faster for converting PowerPoint presentations or scroll huge
Word files, but in general I feel the 190 more responsive.

It is quite interesting because in 1995-96 the 5300 was described as a vast
improvement over the 68040.



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> 
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Still working with my new to me 5300cs and was wondering about
> something.. 
> Are the 100mhz versions of this laptop plagued by the same un-Godly
> slowness of the 1400cs?
> I ask, because my 280c starts up almost twice as fast as the 5300
> running the same os (7.6.1), and I've stripped 7.6.1 on the 5300 to reflect
> what I have on the 280c..
> Any ideas?
> 
> -Tia
> -nathan
> 




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5300cs question

[nathan]

Listers,

Still working with my new to me 5300cs and was wondering about
something.. 
Are the 100mhz versions of this laptop plagued by the same un-Godly
slowness of the 1400cs?
I ask, because my 280c starts up almost twice as fast as the 5300
running the same os (7.6.1), and I've stripped 7.6.1 on the 5300 to reflect
what I have on the 280c..
Any ideas?

-Tia
-nathan


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5300cs won't wake up

[Robert S. Rowan]

Dear List,
Could a corrupted Power Manager cause the PB not to wake up after 
being put to sleep?

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5300cs Won't Wake Up

[Robert S. Rowan]

Dear List,
When I put my 5300cs to sleep, it won't wake up and I have to do a 
keyboard restart to get it up and running again. I have 40 megs of 
RAM for a total of 56 megs of RAM and the OS is 8.1.

I have tried zapping the PRAM x 10, trashing the finder preference 
file and rebuilding the desk top. I have run Norton Disk Doctor and 
the Doctor says we're fine. I have tried zapping the PRAM again with 
Tech Tool 1.2.1. No dice.

Then I thought, perhaps I was having a conflict with an extension or 
two so I started up with the extensions off. Shuzbutt! The 5300 still 
died in its sleep. I brought out the heavy guns, Conflict Catcher 8, 
and still the 5300 fell into the Big Sleep.

OK I thought, I'll subject the PB to intervention therapy, i.e. a 
clean install. Aarrugh! (No need to translate).

My last hope, Reset The Power Manager. So I started up the lap top 
with the Command, Option, P & R keys depressed and when the 5300 went 
blank and the sleep button shown steady, I restarted with the reset 
button on the back. OK, one more time. I pulled the battery, 
disconnected the AC power pushed the reset button in the back for 30 
seconds plus and reconnected the AC power and I am right back where I 
started from in the beginning (except for a new system folder).

Does anyone have any other ideas? My next step is to pop the hood and 
remove the PRAM battery (how long should it be disconnected?). 
Failing all of this, the Power Book gets wrapped in garlic, I drive a 
wooden stake through its CPU and I bury it in the back yard!

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5300cs external cd-rom drive problems

[Ben]

Hello! I have a PB 5300cs 56mb ram, 750mb hd, os 9 and a external 56 pin
apple cd-rom in a external case. The cd-rom will read everything except
cdr's and cdrw's. When the cd-rom was in the 7100/66 it read them fine. Does
anyone have any ideas?? Please help!! ~ Ben ~

P.S: I don't know the model of the cd-rom, but I know it is 24x.



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Re: what to do with a 5300cs

[Howard R. Katz]

Shreve systems DOES have the 5300/190 power adapters for $10!  However,
that $18 shipping and handling charge they want to tack on to that makes
this not a very good deal after all.


Later.Howard


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> > > Hello! I just got a 5300cs. It's power adapter broke, so I'm in the
> > > proccess
> > > of getting a new one. Is this a good idea or no? If I do get a power
> > > adapter, is there a lot of things i could do with the pb??? Or is it
> > > not
> > > worth the $10?

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Re: what to do with a 5300cs

[Ben]

Ok will do!! Thanks, Ben
- Original Message - 
From: "Shaun Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: what to do with a 5300cs


> on 4/6/04 8:03 PM, Ben at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hello! I just got a 5300cs. It's power adapter broke, so I'm in the
proccess
> > of getting a new one. Is this a good idea or no? If I do get a power
> > adapter, is there a lot of things i could do with the pb??? Or is it not
> > worth the $10?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Ben
> >
>
> If you already know for a fact that it works, then Yes, you'll get your
> $10.00 worth. A good word processing and e-mail machine, with no backside
> cache internet stuff would be slower than Congress. Slip the battery out
and
> look inside the bay. If you can see dates stamped on the metal, then this
> machine has gone through Apple's refurbish program and has fewer chances
of
> future troubles. I have 2 of these things and have grown to love them.
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Re: what to do with a 5300cs

[Ben]

The only power adapters they had were for the 5300/190. I dunno if it will
work with the 1400 though. The site is www.shrevesystems.com. Thanks for
your help!!! Ben
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Subject: Re: what to do with a 5300cs


> Just out of curiosity, where'd you find an adaptor for $10? Any idea if
> they have 'em that cheap for a 1400C?
>
> I have a 5300C that I'm currently using (but I need the AC adaptor to
> upgrade to the 1400!), you can use wireless cards with it, like I do,
> or light email, typing and surfing. I'd load up on ram if you're gonna
> do anything somewhat intensive though. I thikn the limit is somewhere
> in the neighborhood of 48MB(?). Try the swap list if you need stuff
> like that. Connectix Speed-Doubler and RAM-Doubler help, but not a
> whole lot, I've found.
>
> My biggest complaint is the weight and the lack of CD drive. I know the
> 1400 isn't much better, but it came to me with a G3 upgrade, though I
> don't think you can get them for a 5300.
>
> All in all, they're a good machine if you don't do a whole lot other
> than typing and light internet stuff, but if you want to run more than
> one or two progs at a time, I'd say sell it and get a 1400 or better.
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> Peace,
>
> Jason
>
> On Apr 6, 2004, at 9:03 PM, Ben wrote:
>
> > Hello! I just got a 5300cs. It's power adapter broke, so I'm in the
> > proccess
> > of getting a new one. Is this a good idea or no? If I do get a power
> > adapter, is there a lot of things i could do with the pb??? Or is it
> > not
> > worth the $10?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Ben
>
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Re: what to do with a 5300cs

[Shaun Howell]

on 4/6/04 8:03 PM, Ben at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello! I just got a 5300cs. It's power adapter broke, so I'm in the proccess
> of getting a new one. Is this a good idea or no? If I do get a power
> adapter, is there a lot of things i could do with the pb??? Or is it not
> worth the $10?
> 
> Thanks!
> Ben
>

If you already know for a fact that it works, then Yes, you'll get your
$10.00 worth. A good word processing and e-mail machine, with no backside
cache internet stuff would be slower than Congress. Slip the battery out and
look inside the bay. If you can see dates stamped on the metal, then this
machine has gone through Apple's refurbish program and has fewer chances of
future troubles. I have 2 of these things and have grown to love them. ^__^


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Re: what to do with a 5300cs

[Cowboyj]

Just out of curiosity, where'd you find an adaptor for $10? Any idea if 
they have 'em that cheap for a 1400C?

I have a 5300C that I'm currently using (but I need the AC adaptor to 
upgrade to the 1400!), you can use wireless cards with it, like I do, 
or light email, typing and surfing. I'd load up on ram if you're gonna 
do anything somewhat intensive though. I thikn the limit is somewhere 
in the neighborhood of 48MB(?). Try the swap list if you need stuff 
like that. Connectix Speed-Doubler and RAM-Doubler help, but not a 
whole lot, I've found.

My biggest complaint is the weight and the lack of CD drive. I know the 
1400 isn't much better, but it came to me with a G3 upgrade, though I 
don't think you can get them for a 5300.

All in all, they're a good machine if you don't do a whole lot other 
than typing and light internet stuff, but if you want to run more than 
one or two progs at a time, I'd say sell it and get a 1400 or better.

Just my $0.02

Peace,

Jason

On Apr 6, 2004, at 9:03 PM, Ben wrote:

Hello! I just got a 5300cs. It's power adapter broke, so I'm in the 
proccess
of getting a new one. Is this a good idea or no? If I do get a power
adapter, is there a lot of things i could do with the pb??? Or is it 
not
worth the $10?

Thanks!
Ben


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what to do with a 5300cs

[Ben]

Hello! I just got a 5300cs. It's power adapter broke, so I'm in the proccess
of getting a new one. Is this a good idea or no? If I do get a power
adapter, is there a lot of things i could do with the pb??? Or is it not
worth the $10?

Thanks!
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5300cs screen problem

[Ben]

Hello!! I have just accidentely purchased a powerbook 5300cs on ebay that
appearently has a non working display. The man told me that it boots and
everything, just the screen does not turn on. Does anybody have any
suggestions? Thanks alot!!! ~ Ben ~



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Re: 5300cs

[Junior Hart]

Sorry, I was just trying to get a smile from the group. :-)
I hope you did.

God Bless!
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> From: Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 5300cs
> 
>> I find when I don't plug in my 5300, or insert a battery it will not start
>> up.
> 
> Um, I find most things don't start up if I don't plug them in and don't
> have a battery. ;) Kidding aside, care to be more specific, or to give an
> example?


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Re: 5300cs Can't See Half of RAM

[Simon Horn]

Hi,

I have  a plain 5300 that I got with the 8 mb on the motherboard plus 
an 8 mb expansion for a total of 16 mb.

I later picked up a 16 mb memory expansion card, but when I add it, the 
total memory remains 16 mb. What is interesting is that Apple System 
Profiler says I have 16 mb: 0 mb (!) on the motherboard and the 16 mb 
expansion.

I haven't had the time to really try to figure this out, but I too 
would be interested if anyone knows what is going on.

--Simon Horn

On Jan 17, 2004, at 3:32 PM, PowerBooks wrote:

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:59:22 -0800
From: Tom Saecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 5300cs Can't See Half of RAM
Hi,

Here is the problem: This 5300cs only "sees" half of any RAM module
that you put into it with the exception of an 8MB module. It's
running OS 8.1.


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Re: 5300cs

[Cameron Kaiser]

> I find when I don't plug in my 5300, or insert a battery it will not start
> up.

Um, I find most things don't start up if I don't plug them in and don't
have a battery. ;) Kidding aside, care to be more specific, or to give an
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5300cs

[Junior Hart]

I find when I don't plug in my 5300, or insert a battery it will not start
up.
Anyone else having this problem?
TIA

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5300cs Can't See Half of RAM

[Tom Saecker]

Hi,

Here is the problem: This 5300cs only "sees" half of any RAM module 
that you put into it with the exception of an 8MB module. It's 
running OS 8.1.

History: It was given to my brother in Olympia, Washington who then 
gave it to me. He tried putting the 32MB RAM out of his 190 in this 
5300 and it could only see 16mb of it. It sees 8mb of the 16mb RAM 
that it came with. I purchased a 48MB RAM module and it only saw 24MB 
of it. (This PB has an 8MB motherboard).
When I received my 2nd Powerbook I tried the 8MB RAM chip out of it 
in the 1st Powerbook and it couldn't see it at all.

What would be the most likely cause of behavior like this?
I have noticed that the solder trails to the RAM connector in the 1st 
5300 are not as clean and bright as the ones in the 2nd 5300.
Is this a bad solder job or a bad motherboard or something else?

I have purchased a 2nd 5300cs through eBay which works well with the 
exception of the PRAM battery which is on order. So at this point I 
am viewing the 1st 5300 as parts unless it can be repaired cheaply.

Has anyone else run into this problem?

Thanks,

Tom Saecker
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Dayna Communicard Plus in 5300cs

[sirksd]

I have a PB5300cs running OS8.6.  I want to use a Dayna Communicard Plus
28,800/14,000 bps combo Ethernet/Modm card.  I get ethernet connections easily
but not modem connections.  I cannot get the card to work on dial-up modem in
any computer.  The message keeps coming back that the serial port is in use.  I
even trashed the Appletalk preferences.  Is it the wrong driver or the actual
hardware in the card?  I would appreciate the answer or a good driver to use.
(I use their 2.3 driver now)

Dan in AZ


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Fw: Re: 5300cs battery/power question

[Jim Scott]

I revived a 5300 that suffered a similar fate (dog ran into the thin adapter
cable, bending the male input plug and breaking the female AC adapter's
plastic housing and loosening the solder connections on the motherboard).

 Once I fixed the broken plastic housing and resoldered the three "legs"
that fit into the motherboard, the AC adapter still didn't work. Long story
short, I finally discovered that the braided wire "wrap" inside the outer
plastic wire, which becomes a wire that is soldered to the outer, negative
portion of the AC plug, had been broken right at the plug. Unfortunately,
after voltmeter testing confirmed my worst fears, I had to destroy the plug
to confirm my diagnosis.

 I removed the bad portion of the wire and the now-destroyed plug, bought a
right-size adapter from Radio Shack, and brought the laptop back to life via
AC. Your situation probably parallels mine in at least one out of the three
problems I solved.
Good luck!

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> From: "Danny Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:11 PM
> Subject: 5300cs battery/power question
>
>
> >
> > My 5300cs won't boot.
> >
> > The power supply has been screwy for some years ever since I had the
power
> > cord stretched across a path in the house and my wife came through
chasing
> > the cat, and... well, anyway...
> >
> > For some years now, the cord into the machine has had to be *just right*
> to
> > charge the battery.  It hasn't been too bad of a problem.  Whenever I
saw
> > that the battery was draining, I'd play with the power cord in just the
> > right way until I saw that the battery was charging.  If I had enough
> > battery to power up, I was okay.  Actually, if the battery couldn't boot
> the
> > machine, I could play with the power cord until I heard the very faint
> high
> > pitched whine that told me the machine (and battery) was getting AC
power.
> >
> > I've been using the 5300cs less and less.  When I tried to boot it this
> > month to get my Christmas card list, it was dead as could be.  Could not
> > wiggle the power cord to get it to do ANYTHING.
> >
>
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5300cs battery/power question

[Danny Jones]

My 5300cs won't boot.

The power supply has been screwy for some years ever since I had the power
cord stretched across a path in the house and my wife came through chasing
the cat, and... well, anyway...

For some years now, the cord into the machine has had to be *just right* to
charge the battery.  It hasn't been too bad of a problem.  Whenever I saw
that the battery was draining, I'd play with the power cord in just the
right way until I saw that the battery was charging.  If I had enough
battery to power up, I was okay.  Actually, if the battery couldn't boot the
machine, I could play with the power cord until I heard the very faint high
pitched whine that told me the machine (and battery) was getting AC power.

I've been using the 5300cs less and less.  When I tried to boot it this
month to get my Christmas card list, it was dead as could be.  Could not
wiggle the power cord to get it to do ANYTHING.

I took the battery to BATTERIES PLUS to have it reconditioned and recharged.
They told me the battery was in good shape and would hold a charge.  I
figured that would be enough to boot the machine, but still I get NOTHING.
:(

Someone suggested to me that I hold the reset buttion in on the back of the
machine for 15 or so seconds, but I get no response at all from the machine.

I could live without the machine, but I really, really want to get my
Christmas card info and genealogy info off the hard drive.

I figure the worst case scenario is that I buy a used, working 5300cs (I
think I've seen one somewhere online for $50-something) and swap my hard
drive into it.

Is there another way?

Thank you for any help you can offer.


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Re: PowerBook 5300cs & Apple CD-ROM

[Illovox Media]

Worth about $20 shipped in current config

on 12/4/03 4:27 PM, Junior Hart at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> HI all,
> What is the value of my powerbook 5300?
> 24MB of ram; 500MB HD; 28.800 pmcia slot modem; power cord; no battery?
> It needs a new internal battery. Anyone know if this is hard to change? I
> never
> could find a 5300 manual on the net.
> Is the vram upgradable to thousands of colors, from hundreds?
> This is my biggest turnoff of this machine, is it's hundreds of colors limit,
> so
> far anyway.
> Thinking about selling it, unless the internal battery is easy to change,
> and/or
> the vram is upgradeable.
> So far it's a word processing machine.
> TIA
> God Bless!
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Re: PowerBook 5300cs & Apple CD-ROM

[Junior Hart]

HI all,
What is the value of my powerbook 5300?
24MB of ram; 500MB HD; 28.800 pmcia slot modem; power cord; no battery?
It needs a new internal battery. Anyone know if this is hard to change? I never
could find a 5300 manual on the net.
Is the vram upgradable to thousands of colors, from hundreds?
This is my biggest turnoff of this machine, is it's hundreds of colors limit, so
far anyway.
Thinking about selling it, unless the internal battery is easy to change, and/or
the vram is upgradeable.
So far it's a word processing machine.
TIA
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Re: PowerBook 5300cs & Apple CD-ROM

[The Calypso Organization]

> I just got a refurbed PB 5300cs (Apple refurb--sealed in box w/manuals).
It's
> a sweet little machine, with one problem. It won't recognize my external
> Apple CD-ROM drive. I am trying to upgrade to OS 8.1 from 7.5.2

Ours did the same thing - we had to upgrade stage by stage 7.5.5 then 7.6 .1
then 7.6.5 then 8.0 then 8.1 - we went up to 8.6. It worked eventually even
if it was the long way round ( and you need all the systems!)
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Re: PowerBook 5300cs & Apple CD-ROM

[Robert Eye]

I just got a refurbed PB 5300cs (Apple refurb--sealed in box w/manuals). It's
a sweet little machine, with one problem. It won't recognize my external
Apple CD-ROM drive. I am trying to upgrade to OS 8.1 from 7.5.2 via CD. I've
checked the connections, the extensions, the boot sequence, the SCSI ID, but
nothing seems to get the PB to recognize the drive. Any ideas? TIA, Heather
(My other PBs include: a 1400c (G3 333), a 190cs, 2 190s, a Duo 230, a 170
and a 100)
Heather,

1. Does the CD ROM drive work on the other PBs you have that can 
handle a SCSI CD ROM? And, assuming the CD ROM works with your other 
PBs, one can assume that the cable you are using is completely 
functional?

2. When you say it does not recogonize the CD ROM, does that mean 
that it does not recogonize it either by doing the 4-finger salute* 
at start-up to boot from the CD ROM drive (holdng down just the C key 
doesn't seem to work on my 5300cs, IIRC), or by booting from the HD 
and having the CD ROM display on the desktop?

3. Does the 5300cs recogonize any other attached SCSI device?

It's kind of hard for me to tell from your post as to what you have 
tried and what remains unknown.

I would think that if 1 and 2 are "yes", then 3 would likely be "no" 
and you have a bad SCSI connection on the 5300cs. If all three are 
"yes" (i.e., the CD works on other PBs, the CD ROM drive won't boot 
or show up on the 5300cs, and the 5300cs recogonizes other SCSI 
devices), beats me. :-) It may be a termination issue, but if the CD 
ROM drives works on the other PBs, it should show up on the 5300cs.

Regards,

Bob Eye
Dallas, TX
*holding down command-option-shift-delete during boot overrides the 
selected start-up disk and boots from the next available disk with a 
valid System Folder (you probably knew this, but I'm putting it here 
for completeness)

P.S. Where did you get a "new" refurb 5300cs?

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Re: PowerBook 5300cs & Apple CD-ROM

[Dana Collins]

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:23:30 EST
> To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PowerBook 5300cs & Apple CD-ROM
> 
> I just got a refurbed PB 5300cs (Apple refurb--sealed in box w/manuals). It's
> a sweet little machine, with one problem. It won't recognize my external
> Apple CD-ROM drive. I am trying to upgrade to OS 8.1 from 7.5.2 via CD. I've
> checked the connections, the extensions, the boot sequence, the SCSI ID, but
> nothing seems to get the PB to recognize the drive. Any ideas? TIA, Heather
> (My other PBs include: a 1400c (G3 333), a 190cs, 2 190s, a Duo 230, a 170
> and a 100)
Hello Heather,
Just a thought: presuming that you are connecting your external SCSI CD
drive via an HD-30 adapter, do you know for sure that this adapter is
known-to-be-good? Also, on the back of the CD drive itself, the following
pins should be jumpered:
"Parity" - "Term Power" - and 0 and 1 (totalling "3" in binary for your SCSI
ID; but you knew that ;-)
sometimes I have had trouble with a CD drive only to discover that the term
power jumper simply fell off - it's just a thought.
Best regards,
Dana


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PowerBook 5300cs & Apple CD-ROM

[Mousehurd]

I just got a refurbed PB 5300cs (Apple refurb--sealed in box w/manuals). It's 
a sweet little machine, with one problem. It won't recognize my external 
Apple CD-ROM drive. I am trying to upgrade to OS 8.1 from 7.5.2 via CD. I've 
checked the connections, the extensions, the boot sequence, the SCSI ID, but 
nothing seems to get the PB to recognize the drive. Any ideas? TIA, Heather
(My other PBs include: a 1400c (G3 333), a 190cs, 2 190s, a Duo 230, a 170 
and a 100)

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Re: Booting my 5300cs from a CF card - success!! (was Re: 5300 ???)

[Vince Luce]

I haven't tried timing boot-up, etc., to see if it made a difference, but
due to all the interest, I set up my 540c with a 128mb CF for the system,
and a separate 64mb CF for virtual memory. Didn't seem to boot OK until I
reduced VM to about 50+ mb (don't remember exact amount). Doesn't seem any
different from running w/ just 1 CF, but somebody more knowledgeable might
be able to use this info.

-VLPRO
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> What I think is crazy, mostly due to cost, is the 4GB CF card. That is
> 4X the HD in my 1400. Imagine an ulta light, thin PB based one a couple
> of those..



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Re: Booting my 5300cs from a CF card - success!! (was Re: 5300 ???)

[William Wiseman]

What I think is crazy, mostly due to cost, is the 4GB CF card. That is 
4X the HD in my 1400. Imagine an ulta light, thin PB based one a couple 
of those..

On Nov 21, 2003, at 10:02 PM, Winston Smith wrote:

On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 06:17  AM, Vince Luce wrote:

I have absolutely no clue if they're Mac-compatible, but 
compgeeks.com often
has (as they do now) CF microdrives.
Their stock right now is  2.2 Gb
MagicStor @ $199.99 US.


Sheesh!, That's twice the size of my PB 1400's HD!!

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Re: Booting my 5300cs from a CF card - success!! (was Re: 5300 ???)

[Winston Smith]

On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 06:17  AM, Vince Luce wrote:

I have absolutely no clue if they're Mac-compatible, but compgeeks.com 
often
has (as they do now) CF microdrives.
Their stock right now is  2.2 Gb
MagicStor @ $199.99 US.


Sheesh!, That's twice the size of my PB 1400's HD!!

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Re: Booting my 5300cs from a CF card - success!! (was Re: 5300 ???)

[Yersinia]

Bob Eye writes,



I can't resist commenting on this bit of information. Macintosh computer 
+ REAL Trek fan = pretty cool to me.

~Yersinia<-has two Macs: PB 190, 7200/120 and entire collection of 
TOS on DVD.

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Re: Booting my 5300cs from a CF card - success!! (was Re: 5300 ???)

[Vince Luce]

I have absolutely no clue if they're Mac-compatible, but compgeeks.com often
has (as they do now) CF microdrives.
Their stock right now is 340 mb IBM @ $59 US, 1 Gb IBM @ $187 US, and 2.2 Gb
MagicStor @ $199.99 US.

> Oh, well, the 128 MB CF can go into the camera ...
> perhaps I'll get a microdrive ... yeah, that's it ...



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Re: Booting my 5300cs from a CF card - success!! (was Re: 5300 ???)

[Brian]

On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 01:33 AM, Robert Eye wrote:
Anyway, my PB 5300cs now seems to be bootable from a CF card! Now to 
get a larger card than the 128 MB I have - it barley holds the 
stripped System Folder with no apps. I guess I misjudged the size I 
would need. Oh, well, the 128 MB CF can go into the camera ... perhaps 
I'll get a microdrive ... yeah, that's it ...

Glad your persistence paid off!

BTW you still have some system stuff to toss out, my minimal system 
plus Norton disk doctor and Speedtools fits in 64 megs :)  MacOS 8.6

B

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Booting my 5300cs from a CF card - success!! (was Re: 5300 ???)

[Robert Eye]

I had attempted an install of 8.1 after formatting the card as you 
would any other Mac HD. Maybe there's a problem with where it writes 
the driver on a newly formatted card? Perhaps I have to run DIsk 
Doctor and Speed Disk on it right after the install?

I may pull out the 5300cs tonight or tomorrow and try some more 
debugging. If I find out anything interesting, I'll post.

Regards,

Bob Eye
Answering my own post ...

I pulled out the 5300cs last night and tried to boot with the CF card 
in. Bus Error. 

I couldn't get the card out except to paper clip it out. I went ahead 
and booted the PB normally, then inserted the card. It was read just 
fine.

Next, I opened Drive Setup (version 1.7.3, under MacOS 8.1) and 
checked the CF card. It said there was a problem with the driver and 
the driver could not be upated but the disk could be formatted. Hmmm 
... Now we're getting somewhere ...

I went ahead and (re-)formatted the CF card as a HFS Mac disk, one 
partition. I then rebooted the PB withe CF card installed and ... NO 
BUS ERROR! WOOHOO!

Next, I did a drag-and-drop transfer of the major system elements, 
selected the CF as the boot disk and rebooted .. and ... the PB 
booted from the CF card!

For those of you who like numbers (in min:sec):

Time to boot, 775 MB HD: 1:28
Time to boot, 775 MB HD Extensions Disabled: 0:58
Time to boot, 128 MB CF: 1:25
Time to boot, 128 MB CF Extensions Disabled: 0:56
(Number of extensions roughly the same. Boot time measured from 
screen light up to complete desktop. YMMV.)

So boot time with the CF card is comparable to booting with the HD. 
Newer higher RPM drives (> 2 GB) will no doubt beat the CF card.

There is only one issue I could find in all this .. I changed the CF 
card's icon from it's default icon to a custom one (Star Trek TOS 
shuttlecraft, if you must know :-) ). It could be, I guess, that this 
somehow caused the CF card disk driver to become corrupted. (?) So 
it's the plain generic CF card icon for me from now on. Hopefully the 
more routine operations with the card won't corrupt the driver.

Anyway, my PB 5300cs now seems to be bootable from a CF card! Now to 
get a larger card than the 128 MB I have - it barley holds the 
stripped System Folder with no apps. I guess I misjudged the size I 
would need. Oh, well, the 128 MB CF can go into the camera ... 
perhaps I'll get a microdrive ... yeah, that's it ...

Hope this helps someone else.

Regards,

Bob Eye
Dallas, TX
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Re: Powerbook 5300cs/190cs question

[Donn Haven Lathrop]

Mr. 5300 wrote:

>>The 190cs screen and 5300cs screen are cross-compatible.  It 
shouldn't be a problem to swap one for the other (assuming they come 
with their individual cables).<<

Tom W. wrote:

>>I have swapped a 190cs onto a monochrome 5300 without any problems.
Tom<<

Thank you, gentlemen.  I've three 5300's, and a 190cs.  One of the
5300's (after a top lid plastics transplant--someone put the wrong
screws in the wrong place, and the lid came apart in my hands when I
closed it) is now in the hands of a friend who had to fight off all the
aluminum foil beanie wearers in the local library just to get e-mail
from her kids.  (AFBW's seem to come out of the woodwork in the
Northeast Kingdom of Vermont...)  She can now do e-mail at home, and
just as a BTW, thinks PC's are stone age compared to Apple.  Score
another one for the forces of good.

So I've a 190cs with lots of ghosting (horizontal lines only) on the
screen, an extra 5300 cs screen, and a compulsion to see if the ghosting
will go away with the 5300 screen.  Thanks for the reassurance, and I'll
let you know if I let too much of the blue smoke out of the 190, and if
the ghosting is fixed.

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Re: Powerbook 5300cs/190cs question

[Tom W.]

I have swapped a 190cs onto a monochrome 5300 without any problems.
Tom

Has anyone tried using a 5300cs screen on a 190cs?  What will explode or
self-destruct if they are swapped?

C

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Re: Powerbook 5300cs/190cs question

[Andrew Kershaw]

Checked Drew's 5300 FAQ, but nothing there. Thanks.
Hmm, I guess I should have made that more clear.

The 190cs screen and 5300cs screen are cross-compatible.  It 
shouldn't be a problem to swap one for the other (assuming they come 
with their individual cables).

Peace,
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Powerbook 5300cs/190cs question

[Donn Haven Lathrop]

Has anyone tried using a 5300cs screen on a 190cs?  What will explode or
self-destruct if they are swapped?

Checked Drew's 5300 FAQ, but nothing there.  Thanks.

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Re: Powerbook 5300cs question

[Bruce Johnson]

On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 10:16  PM, Todd Naber wrote:

Hi Listers,


 They list a Focus Enhancements 16-bit
Video Card for the 5300- is the one I have (if it was the one Apple
installed as an option) a 16 bit card as well?
No. The card to get, as others have mentioned is the MV16EN which gives 
you 16 bit color out, and a built-in ethernet. I have one in my 5300C, 
very nice.

Data Memory Systems (http://www.datamem.com look in the clearance 
section) was selling them for $7.95 last I looked.

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Re: Powerbook 5300cs question

[ACFX44501]

>My question is it does have a Video Out port already in place (I have a
>cable and have used it with an external monitor) but do all the 5300cs' have
>this stock or was it ordered this way?

I have seen 5300s without the exteral video port. Rare.


>If you have a 5300 you MUST go to
>that nexcomp.com website that was posted a few days ago! Batteries for
>$24.95 (unbelievable- I bought two). They list a Focus Enhancements 16-bit
>Video Card for the 5300- is the one I have (if it was the one Apple
>installed as an option) a 16 bit card as well? Any help would be
>appreciated.

The Lapis is a good choice for installation where an external video port 
is not present, or even replacement of an existing Apple external video 
port.

The Apple port is the same across 190 and 5300s.

The Lapis port is unique for 190s and 5300s.

For 5300s, the ones which are being liquidated most of the time, it is 
the Lapis MV16EN, which offers 16 bit color and UTP Ethernet in one 
component.

The softare install is a little bizarre, but the card works well. The 
only drawback is its large "dongle".

Batteries for 190s/5300s have consistently been available brand-new for 
in the $20.95 area for some time now. I think I bought six off if eBay.

Lapis MV16ENs (5300s only) have consistently been avaiable brand-new for 
in the $9.95 area for some time now. I bought four, one for each of my 
color 5300s.

My "road Apples" (I usually take two) are a 5300c and a 5300ce, each with 
a Lapis card, and each with a USR/Megahertz 56K PCMCIA card (with 
X-Jack). One set of cables are shared between the two.

Oh, I have a 5300 docking station, but I haven't modified it to 
incorporate the Lapis "dongle" in the place of its normal Apple external 
video adapter cable.

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Re: Powerbook 5300cs question

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 11/11/03 05:16, Todd Naber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>   My question is it does have a Video Out port already in place (I have a
> cable and have used it with an external monitor) but do all the 5300cs' have
> this stock or was it ordered this way?

They all came with a video card originally.

> is the one I have (if it was the one Apple
> installed as an option) a 16 bit card as well? Any help would be

The Apple card was 8 bit IIRC.

The dongles are quite different the apple one is grey and just has a
connector for the video.  The Focus one is black with a  thin cable leading
to a HUGE black lump which has two sockets one for video, one for Ethernet.

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Powerbook 5300cs question

[Todd Naber]

Hi Listers,
I purchased a grayscale 5300 way back when they were first released for
$1350 and it was a total headache. Then I didn't know much about Powerbooks
and it was running 7.5.2 (that was the problem). After a few months of
visits to the Apple Dealer and a few times sending it to Apple, the dealer
agreed to buy it back from me. Well a few weeks ago I purchased a Powerbook
5300cs at a thriftstore for $30. Everything was intact except for a Power
supply (got one on eBay-Mint/Sealed in an original box). Got the Power
Supply and shazam- I find out the 5300cs has 40mb of ram, a 500mb hard drive
and the battery lasts almost 2 hours!
My question is it does have a Video Out port already in place (I have a
cable and have used it with an external monitor) but do all the 5300cs' have
this stock or was it ordered this way? If you have a 5300 you MUST go to
that nexcomp.com website that was posted a few days ago! Batteries for
$24.95 (unbelievable- I bought two). They list a Focus Enhancements 16-bit
Video Card for the 5300- is the one I have (if it was the one Apple
installed as an option) a 16 bit card as well? Any help would be
appreciated.
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Re: Maxing Out 5300cs RAM

[Josh Watson]

Hi Jason

> Well after soldering a new jack onto the motherboard, I reassembled the 
> machine and tried it out. I got a pop from the speaker and that was about 
> it. I figure it's parting out time.

Have you tried removing the battery, and mains for about 10
minutes, then plugging the mains in (the green light above the
screen may well glow at any point here) and holding down the
reset button on the back for about 20 secs. Then, if it hasn't
booted already, try the power button. I had one that did this
and the dead battery must have been draining the power from
something. Also, if this fails, try removing the PRAM battery
and repeating the above (poss a small chance removing this might
destroy the motherboard?? but then i'd guess its dead already if
it doesn't work). They can be hard to restart if they've been
stored for a while.

> Well, my 5300cs has 16M on the motherboard,

yeah, i think its the later 5300cs and 5300cs's that have this.
My 5300cs has 16Mb onboard.

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Re: Maxing Out 5300cs RAM

[Jason]

>Firstly, are you sure you have 16MB of RAM on the motherboard? 
>AFAIK, the only machine that had 16MB of RAM on the mobo (stock) was 
>the 5300ce/117MHz.
>
I am almost positive, but I'll pull the RAM card and boot without it. 

>I don't know where the idea that the 5300 series tops out at 56MB 
>started, but it's not true.  You can put up to 64MB of RAM into the 
>5300.  This idea probably started as the result of original Apple 
>documentation stating that the largest supported RAM expansion card 
>is only 48MB.  48MB + 8MB = 56MB.  However, with the 5300ce, you get 
>16MB on the motherboard.  16 + 48 = 64.  Later, RAM card 
>manufacturers began producing 56MB RAM cards that top out the 
>5300/8MB to 64MB.
>
>What you've probably found is a 48MB RAM card.  This might sound 
>really dumb to you, but are you _sure_ of your previous total RAM 
>adding up to 48MB?  I'd bet that you really only had 8MB of RAM on 
>board and with the 32MB card, that totaled 40MB.
>
I think booting it wothout either card installed will answer this as well.

>Anyway, the card should work fine with your 5300c/cs.
>

That's what I was hoping to hear, but I figured this new card wouldn't 
give me any troubles until after the old one was sold.

I'll let you know what I find shortly,

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Re: Maxing Out 5300cs RAM

[The Calypso Organization]

Jason,
If you have a spare RAM card for 5300 I'd be happy to make an offer.
As far as I know there's no problem using the new card. and our old machine
running a mere 20mb would be grateful for a boost!

Gerald



Subject: Maxing Out 5300cs RAM


> Well, my 5300cs has 16M on the motherboard, meaning this card is a 40M
> card. That's kind of an oddball size, and I seem to recall that the 5300
> series had a max RAM of 56M. If this is right, I'm going to guess that
> this is really a 48M card, intended to be used with the 8M motherboards.
> If this is so, is there any problem with me using this card, even though
> I'm not using the last 8M of it? The card it replaced is a 32M card, so
> really I'm only gaining 8M, but if this one will work fine, why put the
> smaller one back in?


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Re: Maxing Out 5300cs RAM

[Andrew Kershaw]

Well, my 5300cs has 16M on the motherboard, meaning this card is a 40M
card. That's kind of an oddball size, and I seem to recall that the 5300
series had a max RAM of 56M. If this is right, I'm going to guess that
this is really a 48M card, intended to be used with the 8M motherboards.
If this is so, is there any problem with me using this card, even though
I'm not using the last 8M of it? The card it replaced is a 32M card, so
really I'm only gaining 8M, but if this one will work fine, why put the
smaller one back in?
Thanks in advance,

J White

Firstly, are you sure you have 16MB of RAM on the motherboard? 
AFAIK, the only machine that had 16MB of RAM on the mobo (stock) was 
the 5300ce/117MHz.

I don't know where the idea that the 5300 series tops out at 56MB 
started, but it's not true.  You can put up to 64MB of RAM into the 
5300.  This idea probably started as the result of original Apple 
documentation stating that the largest supported RAM expansion card 
is only 48MB.  48MB + 8MB = 56MB.  However, with the 5300ce, you get 
16MB on the motherboard.  16 + 48 = 64.  Later, RAM card 
manufacturers began producing 56MB RAM cards that top out the 
5300/8MB to 64MB.

What you've probably found is a 48MB RAM card.  This might sound 
really dumb to you, but are you _sure_ of your previous total RAM 
adding up to 48MB?  I'd bet that you really only had 8MB of RAM on 
board and with the 32MB card, that totaled 40MB.

Anyway, the card should work fine with your 5300c/cs.

(It's amazing how much of a difference a screen upgrade makes on this 
series, isn't it?)

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Maxing Out 5300cs RAM

[Jason]

Today I was at a flea market and found a 5300c for sale for $15. It had a 
broken power jack, but it was complete. I figured I could part it out for 
more than that if I couldn't get it running.

Well after soldering a new jack onto the motherboard, I reassembled the 
machine and tried it out. I got a pop from the speaker and that was about 
it. I figure it's parting out time.

I took the 5300c screen and replaced my 5300cs's with it; I never would 
have thought that would make such a difference! While I had my 5300cs 
open for the screen transplant, I put the RAM card that was in this 
machine into it, so I could check to see what size it was. To my 
surprise, when I fired the machine back up, I opened the About this 
Computer, and it reported back 56M.

Well, my 5300cs has 16M on the motherboard, meaning this card is a 40M 
card. That's kind of an oddball size, and I seem to recall that the 5300 
series had a max RAM of 56M. If this is right, I'm going to guess that 
this is really a 48M card, intended to be used with the 8M motherboards. 
If this is so, is there any problem with me using this card, even though 
I'm not using the last 8M of it? The card it replaced is a 32M card, so 
really I'm only gaining 8M, but if this one will work fine, why put the 
smaller one back in?

Thanks in advance,

J White


Anyhow, the question I have

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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

[Jim Oiler]

OK,
I think we just don't have enough options here.
I'm going to suggest that you pick up another scsi device to work with 
here.
either another cd (one that works) or maybe a syquest drive.
This will take at least a few days to round up on ebay or some such,
maybe you're lucky and have a local source for old hardware.
One of the larger syquest drives would be a nice way to go. Bootable,
large enough capacity to hold a system and the 8.6 installer, nice 
versatile
device to have around and cheap.
keep us posted.
see ya,
jim o

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Wow,
I had a similar problem a couple weeks ago. The only way I could get
the system on my
greyscale 5300 was to use the external cd hooked up via scsi
cable. What's the beef with your cd? I don't think you're
going to get there with pc floppies. see ya, jim o

I just can't get the CD Drive to be recognized by the computer. I'd be 
happy
to use it to do the update as I think it would be far easier. I have 
nothing
else to hook the CD too in order to verify it's fully functional so I'm
stuck at this point


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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

[J Sand]

As I understand from the recommendations, 8.1 is about the optimum OS for a 
5300.  What are you trying to upgrade to.  On downloads, you might have to 
find another mac user so that the disk is "bootable" from mac standards.  I 
have had this problem if not using toast when creating a cd for my mac.

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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

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> > Normally when it says alternet ethernet it is a pcmcia card
> 
> What does the connector on the back of the mac look like if 
> it is a hole then I do not think the combo card is fitted if 
> it is a clip then possible as that is what mine looks like.
> 
> Can you mail me a pic of the connector off list and I will be 
> able to tell you straight away.
> 
In digging thruough the control panels I found something that says PC Card
and the hole is just round so I'm gonna assume it has not been done. I would
have emailed you off list but can't tell what your address is :)



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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

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> 
> OK,
> let's back up a bit to make sure we're not missing a point here.
> 

Good idea

> You've got the 5300cs with no system right now?
> or do you have system 8 on there still?

It is currently running System 8

> 
> When you try to boot from the CD you get what?
> does the drive spin-up?

The only thing I get from the cd drive is it spinning up when I put in a cd.
I get nothing at all on the computer itself


> You are holding down the "c" key to boot from the CD?

Tried that, nothing at all on the CD Drive

> 
> You have termination accounted for on the little scsi chain?

Drive is terminated. Tried both positions with the hardware terminator just
in case
> 
> The install cd you are trying to boot from does have an active system 
> on it?

The only things I have are what I can download from Apple and the only way
that I have to get them is with the Windows XP machine

I'm assuming that the drive is just broken at this point, much as I would
like for it to be otherwise

> 
> I know these questions are pretty rudimentary, I just want to be sure 
> we all know
> where you are on this problem.

Wise choice, always a good idea

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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

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OK,
let's back up a bit to make sure we're not missing a point here.
You've got the 5300cs with no system right now?
or do you have system 8 on there still?
When you try to boot from the CD you get what?
does the drive spin-up?
You are holding down the "c" key to boot from the CD?
You have termination accounted for on the little scsi chain?

The install cd you are trying to boot from does have an active system 
on it?

I know these questions are pretty rudimentary, I just want to be sure 
we all know
where you are on this problem.

jim o

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Wow,
I had a similar problem a couple weeks ago. The only way I could get
the system on my
greyscale 5300 was to use the external cd hooked up via scsi
cable. What's the beef with your cd? I don't think you're
going to get there with pc floppies. see ya, jim o

I just can't get the CD Drive to be recognized by the computer. I'd be 
happy
to use it to do the update as I think it would be far easier. I have 
nothing
else to hook the CD too in order to verify it's fully functional so I'm
stuck at this point



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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

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> 
> Wow,
> I had a similar problem a couple weeks ago. The only way I could get 
> the system on my
> greyscale 5300 was to use the external cd hooked up via scsi 
> cable. What's the beef with your cd? I don't think you're 
> going to get there with pc floppies. see ya, jim o
> 
> 

I just can't get the CD Drive to be recognized by the computer. I'd be happy
to use it to do the update as I think it would be far easier. I have nothing
else to hook the CD too in order to verify it's fully functional so I'm
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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

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Wow,
I had a similar problem a couple weeks ago. The only way I could get 
the system on my
greyscale 5300 was to use the external cd hooked up via scsi cable.
What's the beef with your cd?
I don't think you're going to get there with pc floppies.
see ya,
jim o

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I am trying to update the OS on my 5300cs from 8.0 to 8.6 and am 
running
into a problem

I have to do it on floppies as I cannot make the external cd I have 
work
with it and can't get it to recognize files correctly in order to do 
it. I
am having to download the files to the Windows XP PC that I have then 
make a
floppy and transfer them to the Mac except all of the files I do this 
way
end up showing as "PC" and if I try to open them the Mac says it 
cannot find
program PC to open them with

How do I get the update to the Mac and let it recognize the files


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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

[vicki]

> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Also check your apple talk folder, if you have ethernet as
>> one of the choices that¹s another way to tell as the 5300 has
>> no built in ethernet. so for it to be a choice the drivers
>> must have been loaded and the hardware there for it to see.
>> 
>> 
>> Vicki
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> I have the options of:
> 
> Modem/Printer Port
> Infrared Port (IRTalk)
> Alternate Ethernet
> 
> Normally when it says alternet ethernet it is a pcmcia card

What does the connector on the back of the mac look like if it is a hole
then I do not think the combo card is fitted if it is a clip then possible
as that is what mine looks like.

Can you mail me a pic of the connector off list and I will be able to tell
you straight away.

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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

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> 
> Also check your apple talk folder, if you have ethernet as 
> one of the choices that¹s another way to tell as the 5300 has 
> no built in ethernet. so for it to be a choice the drivers 
> must have been loaded and the hardware there for it to see.
> 
> 
> Vicki
> 
> 


I have the options of:

Modem/Printer Port
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Re: 5300cs upgrade woes

[vicki]

Hi 

With the video /ethernet card.

There should be a dongle that attaches to the rear next to the scsi port if
the connector fits into the book then chances are it is just a monitor
connector.

But if the connector sits out and clips on with hooks at either end chances
are you just need to find the dongle .

Also check your apple talk folder, if you have ethernet as one of the
choices that¹s another way to tell as the 5300 has no built in ethernet. so
for it to be a choice the drivers must have been loaded and the hardware
there for it to see.


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5300cs upgrade woes

[Mr Cranky]

I am trying to update the OS on my 5300cs from 8.0 to 8.6 and am running
into a problem

I have to do it on floppies as I cannot make the external cd I have work
with it and can't get it to recognize files correctly in order to do it. I
am having to download the files to the Windows XP PC that I have then make a
floppy and transfer them to the Mac except all of the files I do this way
end up showing as "PC" and if I try to open them the Mac says it cannot find
program PC to open them with

How do I get the update to the Mac and let it recognize the files



A second question. I can tell by looking inside the computer that this
computer has been through the REA program but how do I tell if it has had
the Video/10bT Ethernet upgrade? Is the connector going to be the same RJ45
I would expect or is it more hidden to me like the SCSI port was?



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Re: 5300cs

[Fabian Fang]

On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 11:56AM, F. Tschernitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>A few days ago I got a very cheap Powerbook 5300cs because the "original"
>user will stay in Hawaii and it'd have been dumped if I didn't get it. My
>problem is:
>a) where is that damn on/off-switch? I thought it's the two little "buttons"
>on the left side... but they don't seem to work.
>b) does this work with a missing or defective akku? just as a "stand-alone"
>computer
>c) if i ever get it to run: what cheap/free software (I go to school...)
>would you recommend to do texts and maybe "a little" website-editing; chat
>sometimes and have telnet/www-sessions. which leads to...
>d) how do i connect this to a switch with RJ45-ports? How to install TCP/IP?

It appears that you might not have received a User Guide with your PowerBook 5300cs.  
If this is the case, you may wish to download the Manual from the Apple Support 
website as follows:
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=50021>


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Re: 5300cs

[Darkwolf45]

> Hi there!
> 
> I am new to this list. Please DON'T LAUGH at the following questions - I
> never had MAC before...
> 
> A few days ago I got a very cheap Powerbook 5300cs because the "original"
> user will stay in Hawaii and it'd have been dumped if I didn't get it. My
> problem is:
> a) where is that damn on/off-switch? I thought it's the two little "buttons"
> on the left side... but they don't seem to work.

The "on/off switch is the button in the top right of the keyboard.  It's a triangle 
pointing to the left.  However, it doesn't function the same way as one does on a PC.  
It will start the Powerbook up once pushed, but shutting down is done best using the 
"special" menu, and selecting shut down.  If it ever freezes, restart by holding the 
command (open apple)-control and reset(triangle pointing to the left in the upper 
right)

> b) does this work with a missing or defective akku? just as a "stand-alone"
> computer

Not sure what you mean by that.

> c) if i ever get it to run: what cheap/free software (I go to school...)
> would you recommend to do texts and maybe "a little" website-editing; chat
> sometimes and have telnet/www-sessions. which leads to...

Basic software that wil work well for you is Appleworks either 5 or 6, you should be 
able to find it on Ebay, or on the LEM swap list.  If you have OS 8.1 or better you 
should be able to get MS Office 2001, or Office 98 or 97.  They all still work well, 
and will do just about anything you'll need.
> d) how do i connect this to a switch with RJ45-ports? How to install TCP/IP?

If you need ethernet, that what those two little buttons on the left are about.  you 
can get a PCMCIA card that either has ethernet, or a 33, 56k, etc modem, or both on 
the same card.  You'll need a dongle to go with it, but they work fairly well.  TCP/IP 
comes standard and can be found in the TCP/IP control panel.
> 
> Please don't laugh at me, I am not used to Macs and I've 
> been told that the
> machine runs "just fine" most of the time.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help/URLs...

Hope this helps.  Treat your 5300 with respect, and you should enjoy it very much,
Brian

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Re: 5300cs

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

First of all... ah, ah, ah. ...

Then.


a) where is that damn on/off-switch? I thought it's the two little "buttons"
on the left side... but they don't seem to work.
Top right corner the key with the arrow facing left.


b) does this work with a missing or defective akku? just as a "stand-alone"
computer
Yes, you don't even need the battery to be in.


c) if i ever get it to run: what cheap/free software (I go to school...)
would you recommend to do texts and maybe "a little" website-editing; chat
sometimes and have telnet/www-sessions. which leads to...
www.lowendmac.com


d) how do i connect this to a switch with RJ45-ports? How to install TCP/IP?
If you mean ethernet you need a PC card, but 
first try to sort things out, then we'll halp you 
configure the Mac on the ethernet.

Ben
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5300cs

[F. Tschernitz]

Hi there!

I am new to this list. Please DON'T LAUGH at the following questions - I
never had MAC before...

A few days ago I got a very cheap Powerbook 5300cs because the "original"
user will stay in Hawaii and it'd have been dumped if I didn't get it. My
problem is:
a) where is that damn on/off-switch? I thought it's the two little "buttons"
on the left side... but they don't seem to work.
b) does this work with a missing or defective akku? just as a "stand-alone"
computer
c) if i ever get it to run: what cheap/free software (I go to school...)
would you recommend to do texts and maybe "a little" website-editing; chat
sometimes and have telnet/www-sessions. which leads to...
d) how do i connect this to a switch with RJ45-ports? How to install TCP/IP?

Please don't laugh at me, I am not used to Macs and I've been told that the
machine runs "just fine" most of the time.

Thanks in advance for any help/URLs...


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Re: 5300CS for sale.

[Joshua Braddock]

how much do you think is fair?

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Re: 5300CS for sale.

[Nick]

Sorry about that all!

Nick

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Re: 5300CS for sale.

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5300CS for sale.

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I have a PB 5300CS forsale. It has 56 mb ram, OS 8.6, 500 MB hdd, who ever
buys it, will get a external CD, and a SCSI array. well, its 3 2.1 gig
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5300cs for sale.

[Joshua Braddock]

I dont know how much its worth, but im selling it so i can buy a g3
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Re: 5300cs info wanted

[maxtek]

Have you read all the 5300 info here:
<http://www.alksoft.com/5300_FAQ/>



Subject: 5300cs info wanted
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:00:37 -0500

I just found the low end mac site and this group after I dug out the =
5300cs
that I had gotten at a garage sale for cheap and wanted to know if there =
was
anything I could do to upgrade it. From what I've been able to gather, =
there
really isn't much I can do to it other than a larger HD and more memory, =
is
that correct?


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5300cs info wanted

[Mac Price]

I just found the low end mac site and this group after I dug out the 5300cs
that I had gotten at a garage sale for cheap and wanted to know if there was
anything I could do to upgrade it. From what I've been able to gather, there
really isn't much I can do to it other than a larger HD and more memory, is
that correct?



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Re: 5300cs Part II

[Bruce Johnson]

Mac Price wrote:

OK, I've read over the comments and have a few more questions.

Bruce mentioned an internal video board replacement that at 8 bucks seems
like a great idea, especially with the 10-base-T Ethernet port. My only
question on that one is: Is this something that I would be able to do on my
own, or should it be handled by someone with more experience (I have a
reasonable amount of experience with upgrading WinTel machines)
Laptops or Desktops?

If you have experience working in the guts of a laptop, then it's easy.

If you've got decent hand-eye co-ordination, patience and some aptitude 
for taking apart complex mechanisms, and putting them back together 
*and* have them work after, then you can do it. (Can you rebuild a 
carburetor? No sweat then) (of course, I'm showing my age...most people 
would say "Carburetor? What's that? Isn't that something they put in 
cars like the Model T?" ;-)

If not, then I'd leave it to a pro.

A long time ago I wrote a message to this list with the details of how I 
did it on mine. It was pretty straightforward. I'll see if I can find 
it, or perhaps some kind soul, more organized than I can repost it.

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Re: 5300cs Part II

[Andrew Kershaw]

A long time ago I wrote a message to this list with the details of 
how I did it on mine. It was pretty straightforward. I'll see if I 
can find it, or perhaps some kind soul, more organized than I can 
repost it.

Unfortunately, I did not keep those directions...  Maybe Bruce will 
dig them up... However, if you don't already have the service manual 
for the 5300, you can try following the directions I give in my 5300 
FAQ for upgrading the video card.

Give it a look at  and 
tell me if it's easy enough for you to follow.  It's the last Q&A on 
the page.

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Re: 5300cs info wanted

[vicki]

On 6/8/03 12:38 am, "Clark Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 4:00 PM -0500 8/5/2003, Mac Price wrote:
>> I just found the low end mac site and this group after I dug out the 5300cs
>> that I had gotten at a garage sale for cheap and wanted to know if there was
>> anything I could do to upgrade it. From what I've been able to gather, there
>> really isn't much I can do to it other than a larger HD and more memory, is
>> that correct?
> 
> 
> Max of 64Mb.  I got the upgrade for mine at www.memoryx.net.
> 
> I put a 20Gb drive in mine.  Overkill but it came in handy later for
> when I moved it to a G3.
> 
> If you are using an MP3 player or digital camera a flash media to PC
> Card adapter is useful.
> 
> You can get network cards for it, either wired or wireless.  On it's
> own, the 5300 isn't worth connecting wirelessly but if you already
> have it and can find the right kind of adapter cheap it doesn't hurt.
> 
> You can also put a modem card in it.


After you have maxed out the ram and hdd and got the pcmcia cards you want.
 Send me the plastics and I will cut the apple logo in the rear and spray
the plastics white for you (make it look like a compact ibook) Free of
charge but only to you as I have spare paint from the last one I did. If you
want pics I can send some. Also give me another week or so as my kids are
still suffering from summer colds and I am having a bit of a ruff time
during the day with them. (they can't seem to shake it and the doctor says
just rest them)  NOT POSSIBLE WITH A 2 AND 1 year old THEY JUST WANT TO
PLAY.

Vicki


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Re: 5300cs Part II

[Mac Price]

> >
> >It's Running Mac OS 8.0
> 
> At least up that to OS 8.1
> 

Where do I go to find updates. I assume apple no longer does them

> >
> 
> It depends on what you want to do with it and how much you are 
> willing to spend.  I got the upgrade but that was from 32 to 64.
> 
> 
Really just some basic word processing when away from home and being able to
do a little surfing the net when the other computer is tied up. Money is the
concern because past a certain point it just seem like it would be better to
get a newer system

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Re: 5300cs Part II

[Clark Martin]

At 5:57 PM -0500 8/6/2003, Mac Price wrote:
OK, I've read over the comments and have a few more questions.

First as much as I can figure out to tell you about it at the moment:

It is a 5300cs (what is the cs for btw? I thought color screen at first, but
then noticed that there was also a c)
Model   CPU Res LCD Depth   Base Memory
5300100MHz  640x480 passive mono4   8
5300cs  100MHz  640x480 passive color   8   8 or 16
5300c   100MHz  640x480 Active color8 or 16 8 or 16
5300ce  117MHz  800x600 Active color16  16
It's Running Mac OS 8.0


At least up that to OS 8.1

It has a 750 meg HD (HD Question: It seems I have two different answers
about max size of HD allowed, but it may be more just a question of OS. One
of the people that responded had mentioned putting a 20 gig drive in but I
recall reading that there may be problems with drives larger than 8.2 gigs
on versions lower than 8.6. Is this correct?)


I had the 20Gb and it was using OS 8.6 and 9.1.  The OS won't limit 
the drive size but it will limit the partition size.  I think OS 8 
though is okay for large disks.

I assume from the 750 meg HD and the fact that it has 48 megs RAM that I
have 16 Megs of Ram onboard and 32 in a Module (which raises my next
question, is another memory upgrade worth the cost as I would be essentially
be paying $103 for 16 megs more memory)


It depends on what you want to do with it and how much you are 
willing to spend.  I got the upgrade but that was from 32 to 64.

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