Re: 550c

2005-09-17 Thread macnifico


El 17 sep 2005, a las 2:32 pm, PowerBooks escribió:


I suspect, but could be wrong, that even on the 550 model vs the 520 or
540, that you'll only be able to get wifi working if you have the rev.C
version of the card adapter.

Later.Howard



I have a 540c with the Rev. B PCMCIA Module, and a Proxim Wireless 
SkyLine PC Card, and it does work fine.
But if I remember correctly, I had to manually enter the mask, submask, 
etc. data. No automatic data gathering.

But it works.
Best regards.
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Re: 550c

2005-09-17 Thread victoria duggan







I have a 540c with the Rev. B PCMCIA Module, and a Proxim Wireless  
SkyLine PC Card, and it does work fine.
But if I remember correctly, I had to manually enter the mask,  
submask, etc. data. No automatic data gathering.

But it works.
Best regards.
Hugo Diaz




Hi
I have a rev b pcmcia cage and also a wireless card to go in it but i  
have upped the cpu to ppc and that requires a Rev c cage.


Thats why i was wondering weather i could take the cage from a 5300  
or 190 or 1400 and refit it in the case for the 5xx cage.

Has anyone tried this.

vicki

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Re: 550c

2005-09-17 Thread Andrew Kershaw


Thats why i was wondering weather i could take the cage from a 5300 
or 190 or 1400 and refit it in the case for the 5xx cage.

Has anyone tried this.

vicki


Saddly, this isn't possible.  The 5x0 series uses a PDS type slot 
inside the bay to connect the PC Card cage.  The later NuBus 
PowerBooks have the slots physically wired to the motherboard.  Even 
if that weren't true, you'd have to take all of the electronics along 
with them (TREX IC, etc).  So, upgrading a 5x0 with another 
PowerBooks PC Card slots isn't possible.


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Re: 550c

2005-09-17 Thread ACFX44501

Thats why i was wondering weather i could take the cage from a 5300  
or 190 or 1400 and refit it in the case for the 5xx cage.
Has anyone tried this.

Not possible.

The 500 has no support, per se, for PCMCIA, but it does have access to 
the NuBus through the left slot.

The Rev. A PCMCIA adapter adds a chip which translates PCMCIA to MuBus, 
the other machines mentioned have this capability already on their 
motherboards.

The Rev. B adapter fixes some problems with the Rev. A, but it is the 
same chip and the same artwork.

The Rev. C adapter fixes all problems and adds PPC support, and it is a 
completely new card, with a new chip and artwork.

For maximum flexibility, get a Rev. C adapter.

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Re: 550c

2005-09-16 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Sep 15, 2005, at 7:04 PM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:



I need the control panel and extension panel for the newertech 167  
cpu  also how do i install a system on the hdd when i have no  
external cd rom (can it be done).




Congratulations on the 550c!  I've always wanted one of those...

The 550c has ethernet.  IIRC, the Mac OS 8 CD would allow access to  
AppleTalk networks (either over serial ports or over Ethernet).   
So, if you've got a second Mac w/ a CD-ROM drive, it would be easy  
to set up a simple network to install whichever version of the OS  
you want to install.


There is no Appletalk software on the target system to allow this, so  
this won't work quite like this.


There IS a networking boot floppy image buried in Apple's archives.   
The readme is here


http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/ 
Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/ 
Network_Access_Disk_7.5.txt


The file is in the same directory.*

It allows network access via the printer port only, so if you're  
going to install OS 8 this way, it'll easily be an overnight job, and  
still don't know if it'll work.


Worth a try, though. boot up the 550c with it, mount the 550c on the  
host system, see if OS 8 will install from there.


The only other way to do this is to find another Mac with a SCSI  
port, and use a SCSI Disk-mode cable on the 550 to mount it as a  
drive on the other system.  Install OS X for any Mac if the host  
system is a PPC machine, otherwise you get an unbootable system.


Also, when it comes time to upgrade to 8.1 (which I suggest) copy the  
8.i installer to the 550 and run it from there. The upgrade offers no  
choice of systems to install to, it installs for whatever processor  
the host system is. Run it from a PPC host, you get a PPC version of  
8.1 on the system.


THAT'S why I installed OS 8 three times on my 540c ;-)

* Something that just struck me. I was wrestling with finding a bunch  
of different driver s and updates for some of those OTHER kinds of  
computers yesterday, and all the filenames are things like  
SR34576A.exe and such.


How come NO OTHER company names their files in a human readable format?

I mean, you download video, sound and ethernet drivers from Gateway,  
you get three folders labeled 65-8876, 92-4522, and 12-4709 or some  
such.  C'mon, Windows has supported 256 character file names for a  
freakin' DECADE now, why are we still stuck in the damned 8.3 world?


Why do they have to go OUT OF THEIR WAY to make things difficult?

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Re: 550c

2005-09-16 Thread Andrew Kershaw
The 550c has ethernet.  IIRC, the Mac OS 8 CD would allow access to 
AppleTalk networks (either over serial ports or over Ethernet).  
So, if you've got a second Mac w/ a CD-ROM drive, it would be easy 
to set up a simple network to install whichever version of the OS 
you want to install.


There is no Appletalk software on the target system to allow this, 
so this won't work quite like this.


Bruce,

She said that there's a copy of the OS 8 install CD's system folder 
on the hard drive.  I guess I assumed she's booting from that.  If 
so, doesn't that system folder have AppleTalk and a subset of OT 
installed?  I'm pretty sure that when you boot from CD, you can still 
access your AppleTalk network.



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Re: 550c

2005-09-16 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Sep 16, 2005, at 8:08 AM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:

The 550c has ethernet.  IIRC, the Mac OS 8 CD would allow access  
to AppleTalk networks (either over serial ports or over  
Ethernet).  So, if you've got a second Mac w/ a CD-ROM drive, it  
would be easy to set up a simple network to install whichever  
version of the OS you want to install.




There is no Appletalk software on the target system to allow this,  
so this won't work quite like this.




Bruce,

She said that there's a copy of the OS 8 install CD's system folder  
on the hard drive.  I guess I assumed she's booting from that.


Missed that part, oops.

If so, doesn't that system folder have AppleTalk and a subset of OT  
installed?  I'm pretty sure that when you boot from CD, you can  
still access your AppleTalk network.


I'm not sure...I'd have to find my OS 8 CD, you may be right. The 8.6  
CD boot folder does have Apple Enet, Appleshare and OT extensions.  
But ISTR the last time I tried to boot a HD system from a copy of the  
CD's System folder I got an error message, though I may be thinking  
of the Disk tools boot floppy.


It's worth a try.

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Re: 550c

2005-09-16 Thread victoria duggan

Hi all

Got the control panels and the extension i needed Thanks R A
And i stuck the scsi drive in a 2300 that i have useing the 230 duo  
drive cable and copied the entire drive onto a partition on the ide  
drive.


I am just waiting for it to finish and fingers crossed i should have  
a nice fully working system to go with the book.


I will keep you all updated this Mac is going to be great just need a  
pcmcia cage rev c I will pay up to $XXX. for it if someone has one.

vicki

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Re: 550c

2005-09-16 Thread victoria duggan

Hi all update as promised.

The 550c is working  the drive is now partitioned with 4 drives but  
for some reason 2 of the drives will not mount the mac just says at  
start up that 2 of the partitions cannot be read at start up.  I will  
sort this later .


I still have 14gb of space from the rest of the drive though so thats  
enough. the system is also running at 167mhz from the nupower card  
and the batteries i have managed to recon are showing 2 hr 56 mins.


Running system 8.1 I have a pcmcia cage but it is a revision b is the  
cage from another mac  able to be swapped because if so i have a  
pcmcia flash drive 512.mb and an orinoco card that i can use.


any one tried to do this. if so any ideas.

vicki

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Re: 550c

2005-09-16 Thread Dan K
victoria duggan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 550c is working  the drive is now partitioned with 4 drives but  
for some reason 2 of the drives will not mount the mac just says at  
start up that 2 of the partitions cannot be read at start up.  I will  
sort this later.
I still have 14gb of space from the rest of the drive though so thats  
enough. the system is also running at 167mhz from the nupower card  
and the batteries i have managed to recon are showing 2 hr 56 mins.
Which model ATA-SCSI adapter are you using? Did you initialize the drive 
on the adapter, or off the adapter on a native ATA machine? What utility 
did you use to initialize the drive?

I suspect you have an ADTX adapter (such as came on the OEM Apple 1GB 
drive.) If so you can only use the first ~8GBs of the drive, anything 
beyond that will be (or will become) a scrambled mess. Here's my page on 
the subject of adapters:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/pb_scsi_ata.html

Running system 8.1 I have a pcmcia cage but it is a revision b is the  
cage from another mac  able to be swapped because if so i have a  
pcmcia flash drive 512.mb and an orinoco card that i can use.
AFAIK, you can't use a rev B on a PPC 'Book, but give it a try anyway, 
might work after all.

Here's a couple of replies to some of the other suggestions you've 
received.

First, you can use a network access disk (NAD) to install stuff over an 
ethernet network, but you'll proably have to roll your own NAD for a PPC 
PB500, here's my helpful page on the subject:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/nad.html

Secondly, I'll suggest (if you have the installer) using OS 9.1, which I 
have on both of my 167MHz PBs 500:
http://members.aol.com/dankephoto/ppc_upgrade/86patch.htm

I love using 9.1 on a PB500, though others may disagree. You've got the 
drive space and pace, as well as well as (I assume) maxed out RAM.

It's really a good thing to have a SCSI cable and a CD drive for your 
'Book. Cost is low, value is high.

dan k

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Re: 550c

2005-09-16 Thread Howard R. Katz
I suspect, but could be wrong, that even on the 550 model vs the 520 or 
540, that you'll only be able to get wifi working if you have the rev.C 
version of the card adapter.


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550c

2005-09-15 Thread victoria duggan

Hi all need help

Got a 550c. back

I need the control panel and extension panel for the newertech 167  
cpu  also how do i install a system on the hdd when i have no  
external cd rom (can it be done).


the drive i have in it is a 30gb ide drive with an adapter  
partitioned in 5, 1x 7gb and 4 x 5gb,drives.


loaded on one partition is the install boot disk for the os 8 cd rom  
but that is minimal and gives me no options if it put the original  
810 scsi drive back in it all runs fine but i want to transfer the  
info from that drive to the ide one (but do not know how.)


help needed

vicki 


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Re: 550c

2005-09-15 Thread Andrew Kershaw


I need the control panel and extension panel for the newertech 167 
cpu  also how do i install a system on the hdd when i have no 
external cd rom (can it be done).


Congratulations on the 550c!  I've always wanted one of those...

The 550c has ethernet.  IIRC, the Mac OS 8 CD would allow access to 
AppleTalk networks (either over serial ports or over Ethernet).  So, 
if you've got a second Mac w/ a CD-ROM drive, it would be easy to set 
up a simple network to install whichever version of the OS you want 
to install.


Write back if you've got another Mac equipped with an ethernet port  
CD-ROM drive.  You'll also need an ethernet cable (either crossover 
if you've got two older Macs or two regular patch ethernet cables and 
a hub) and an ethernet transceiver (AAUI to 10baseT) for the 550c.


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Re: Wireless 550c

2004-06-24 Thread COCCORP
In a message dated 6/23/2004 12:54:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Trying to get my new 550c rolling w/ WiFi; I am using a Proxim Skyline
 wireless PC card with version 6 of the WaveLAN IEEE software, since I 
 am pushing OS
 8.1 on the laptop...

You can try earlier versions of the sofwtare (IIRC I was trying 4.7 or 
so on my 540C, but, all I ever got was the same results you were 
getting, though it was tantalizingly close...I had a new choice of 
ethernet interface appear in the TCP/IP control panel)

Hi again,

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP EVERYONE!

A kind lister directed me to the Proxim software download, and all is rolling 
along! 

Big Bruce; I cannot remember what the new interface was in my TCP/IP offhand, 
but the Proxim software did the trick on my 550c (8.1) and my 1400c (8.5). My 
550c started recognizin' the Proxim card finally, and I was being bombarded 
w/ software update offers  ads in no time(!).

But...

I have noticed that the 802.11b wireless on ALL of my powerbooks, from my 
3400c/180 to my 550c/183, seems slower than when I use 802.11b ethernet/wired on 
either... how much s-l-o-w-e-r is WiFI compared to 10BaseT? (Sorry about my 
ignorance in advance, this is my 1st venture into The Golden Age Of 
Wireless...!)

Yeah, that's right... a Thomas Dolby reference!!

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Re: Wireless 550c

2004-06-24 Thread Brian
On Thursday, June 24, 2004, at 10:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have noticed that the 802.11b wireless on ALL of my powerbooks, from 
my
3400c/180 to my 550c/183, seems slower than when I use 802.11b 
ethernet/wired on
either... how much s-l-o-w-e-r is WiFI compared to 10BaseT? (Sorry 
about my

Not a whole lot slower, I get the 71 meg 9.1 update downloaded in about 
6 min on my 1400/G3, whether via 802.11b or wired onto my home network 
(ftp).

I just moved maybe 1.5 gig of stuff (I didn't check exactly, but it's 
under 2) from my 1400 to my G4 via appleshareIP and it took about 50min.

HTH.
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Wireless 550c

2004-06-23 Thread COCCORP
Hi gang,

Trying to get my new 550c rolling w/ WiFi; I am using a Proxim Skyline 
wireless PC card with version 6 of the WaveLAN IEEE software, since I am pushing OS 
8.1 on the laptop...

I cannot seem to get things going. The software installed, but it cannot see 
a proper card to use. Additionally, I am told there is no corresponding 
software for the Proxim card whenever it is installed, and the generic PC card icon 
shows up on the desktop.

What gives? 

Craig W.
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Re: Wireless 550c

2004-06-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 23, 2004, at 4:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi gang,
Trying to get my new 550c rolling w/ WiFi; I am using a Proxim Skyline
wireless PC card with version 6 of the WaveLAN IEEE software, since I 
am pushing OS
8.1 on the laptop...
You can try earlier versions of the sofwtare (IIRC I was trying 4.7 or 
so on my 540C, but, all I ever got was the same results you were 
getting, though it was tantalizingly close...I had a new choice of 
ethernet interface appear in the TCP/IP control panel)

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Re: Wireless 550c

2004-06-23 Thread COCCORP
In a message dated 6/23/2004 12:54:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You can try earlier versions of the sofwtare (IIRC I was trying 4.7 or 
so on my 540C, but, all I ever got was the same results you were 
getting, though it was tantalizingly close...I had a new choice of 
ethernet interface appear in the TCP/IP control panel)

Hmmm... that's more than what I have been able to produce..!

Another lister has graciously offered to link me to the proxim skyline 
software, so I am going to try that...

Craig W.
Atlanta GA

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Powerbook 550c parts

2004-06-10 Thread COCCORP
I just obtained a 550c from a friend; if anyone has any interest in the part 
I will not need:

- a Japanese layout keyboard, but each key also has the corresponding (I 
guess) English letter character. It has almost the same arrangement as an English 
keyboard. 

- a NuPower card with 167Mhz power PC, 

- 32MB memory module, and,

- a 750MB hard drive, with KanjiTalk7.5.5, the Japanese OS, but the 
previous owner says it is completely compatible with English 7.6 and 8.0

Let me know,

Craig W.
Atlanta GA

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