Re: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go

[Scott Howe]

Geesh! How did my original problem/question get
hi-jacked? Does anyone remember what I originally
started this thread for? 


--- Dale Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Geez, Bruce, I have your printer right above me.
> Can't you tell a joke when you see one. I've never
> seen a Macintosh of any kind boot to the A: prompt.
> In fact, if you put in a disk in an A: drive, the
> poor secretary will think her computer is ruined.
> 
> Dale :-)
> 

> 
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Re: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go

[Dale Hill]

Geez, Bruce, I have your printer right above me. Can't you tell a joke when you see 
one. I've never seen a Macintosh of any kind boot to the A: prompt. In fact, if you 
put in a disk in an A: drive, the poor secretary will think her computer is ruined.

Dale :-)

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Re: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go

[Bruce Johnson]

On Oct 5, 2004, at 1:27 PM, Dale Hill wrote:
Pushing my power supply hookup to the right or left and even pressing 
it more firmly will get a boot all the way to the "A:" prompt.
If you're getting an A: prompt, then the problem is that someone has 
secretly replaced your Powerbook 190 with a cheapo PC laptop. ;-)

These are classic signs that the power connector is loose inside the 
PB. Open it up, resolder it, and put a bug glob, as other posters have 
said, of hot glue over it. Epoxy also works well.

Also, please edit your replies! This last message contained no less 
than FOUR consecutive copies of the 16 line LEM trailer.

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Re: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go

[Dale Hill]

Pushing my power supply hookup to the right or left and even pressing it more firmly 
will get a boot all the way to the "A:" prompt. I'll look into the glue thing too, but 
my female end of the power supply on the 190 is distinctively loose.
Dale
- Original Message -
From: Scott Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT)
To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go

> 
> --- Dale Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I've ended up with a PB 190 which has a cable with
> > the female end lose. Unless I press to oneside or
> > the other, it will power up with the Mac sound but
> > will shut off immediately.  I'm going to trim the
> > area around the hookup and solder it a bit tighter
> > to see if that works. The female connection is
> > definitely loose.  Mine is a color 190.
> > okmac
> 
> I have 4 different AC Adaptors and 4 different
> batteries. Same results for all of them. Dosen't
> matter if the AC is plugged in or not really. Same
> result with a fully charged battery too (I know it's
> charged because I have another 190 that it works fine
> in)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Scott Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:16:17 -0400
> > To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go
> > 
> > > Hi All-
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> > > My PowerBook 190 greyscale has been sitting
> > unplugged for a few months now.
> > > When I recently plugged it in and tried booting
> > up, no go. Nothing. Except
> > > the green power light stays on. I've re-set the
> > Power Manager button and
> > > that turns it off (the green light) immediately,
> > but as soon as I try
> > > booting again, same thing.
> > > 
> > > Has it finally had it's day or is this a common
> > problem?
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Re: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go

[Scott Howe]

--- Dale Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've ended up with a PB 190 which has a cable with
> the female end lose. Unless I press to oneside or
> the other, it will power up with the Mac sound but
> will shut off immediately.  I'm going to trim the
> area around the hookup and solder it a bit tighter
> to see if that works. The female connection is
> definitely loose.  Mine is a color 190.
> okmac

I have 4 different AC Adaptors and 4 different
batteries. Same results for all of them. Dosen't
matter if the AC is plugged in or not really. Same
result with a fully charged battery too (I know it's
charged because I have another 190 that it works fine
in)







> - Original Message -
> From: Scott Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:16:17 -0400
> To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go
> 
> > Hi All-
> > 
> > My PowerBook 190 greyscale has been sitting
> unplugged for a few months now.
> > When I recently plugged it in and tried booting
> up, no go. Nothing. Except
> > the green power light stays on. I've re-set the
> Power Manager button and
> > that turns it off (the green light) immediately,
> but as soon as I try
> > booting again, same thing.
> > 
> > Has it finally had it's day or is this a common
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Re: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go

[Tom and Lisa P]

I've ended up with a PB 190 which has a cable with the female end 
lose. Unless I press to oneside or the other, it will power up with 
the Mac sound but will shut off immediately.  I'm going to trim the 
area around the hookup and solder it a bit tighter to see if that 
works. The female connection is definitely loose.  Mine is a color 
190.
okmac
The AC plug is probably loose and needs to be resoldered down.  I 
would also reinforce the plug with some hot glue.

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Re: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go

[Dale Hill]

I've ended up with a PB 190 which has a cable with the female end lose. Unless I press 
to oneside or the other, it will power up with the Mac sound but will shut off 
immediately.  I'm going to trim the area around the hookup and solder it a bit tighter 
to see if that works. The female connection is definitely loose.  Mine is a color 190.
okmac
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From: Scott Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:16:17 -0400
To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PowerBook 190 Powerup No-Go

> Hi All-
> 
> My PowerBook 190 greyscale has been sitting unplugged for a few months now.
> When I recently plugged it in and tried booting up, no go. Nothing. Except
> the green power light stays on. I've re-set the Power Manager button and
> that turns it off (the green light) immediately, but as soon as I try
> booting again, same thing.
> 
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Re: powerbook 190 termination

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>Page 54 of the Powerbook 190 User manual says (in the middle of the 
>page) that "Your powerbook is not internally terminated".

What the book doesn't say is the PowerBook does not power the TERMPWR 
line, so any external terminator (whether that terminator is internal to 
a drive or external to a drive) *must* be attached to a SCSI chaing which 
includes at least one external device which also provides terminator 
power TO the bus. Theoretically *all* external devices could provide this 
power, and there would be not problem if one or several external devices 
were powered off, as long as one of these were powered on.

In-line terminators always expect terminator power to be provided FROM 
the bus, namely the TERMPWR line, which is Pin 25 on a 50-pin N-SCSI 
cable.

The only way such a terminator will function as expected is if at least 
one of the external devices provides terminator power, because the 
PowerBook surely won't. It can't, by design.

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Re: Powerbook 190/5300 component/screen swap.

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 24/02/04 18:32, Beniamino Cenci Goga at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> 
>> The 5300 motherboard does need a battery board.
>> Also the 190 trackpad is better than a 5300 pad, as it is clickable.
> 
> In fact I recently put a 190 trackpad on a 5300 and it works...
> wonder why the 5330 did not ship with the upgraded trackpad...

Upgraded ?  Well not really it was an earlier model - maybe there are more
problems with humidity and heavy handed people like me don't use the
'facility' anyway.

> BTW. does any of you know how many video cables exist?

One day soon I hope to find a box full, I'm ALWAYS being asked for them.

> I hope the inverter board is the same.

It is.

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Re: Powerbook 190/5300 component/screen swap.

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

The 5300 motherboard does need a battery board.
Also the 190 trackpad is better than a 5300 pad, as it is clickable.
In fact I recently put a 190 trackpad on a 5300 and it works... 
wonder why the 5330 did not ship with the upgraded trackpad...

BTW. does any of you know how many video cables exist?

I have a 5300ce screen active matrix and would like to install it in 
this 5300 that Apple sent back with a B/W after the REA repair 
extension program.

Yes, I did send an old broken 5300ce the very last day and Apple 
repaired at no cost, but when I booted it up, actually 1-2 months 
later (all in all we do trust Apple, shouldn't we?), I discovered 
that they had replaced the flickering old active matrix with a grey 
scale one.

So now I have the screen, which I had bought on the e-bay , but I 
cannot get to install it because the grey scale screen had a 
different video cable, although I hope the inverter board is the same.

Ben

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Re: Powerbook 190/5300 component/screen swap.

[Josh Watson]

> Hi,
> 
> I'm new to the list, I hope I don't cause too much trouble!
> Basically I have just purchased a powerbook 190 (the one with the 
> grayscale screen) for amusement and noticed a (non booting) 5300 for 
> sale cheaply. I started wondering If I could swap components over. And 
> It seems the video board and infra red are swappable. 

All the components are interchangable, apart from some RAM and the third
party Focus video cards. 190 motherboards can display on some 
5300 screens. I've used a 5300cs screen with a 190 and a 5300c screen
should be alright. You may have trouble with a 5300ce screen on a 190,
though it could work.

The 5300 motherboard does need a battery board.
Also the 190 trackpad is better than a 5300 pad, as it is clickable.

HTH,
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Re: Powerbook 190/5300 component/screen swap.

[Donn Haven Lathrop]

>>Does anyone 
know if it's possible to bolt an active matrix screen from a 5300 onto 
a 190. I don't have them both so I can't dismantle them and try it.<<

I'm not sure.  But I do have a working 190 color screen pull from a
working 190.  No dead pixels, cables intact, good backlight, plastics
not usable, etc.

There's a take-apart manual at:



16 Mb download.

When you take the plastics off the screen, make sure that you don't swap
self-tapping screws for the machine-thread screws.  That's why the
plastics are unuseable.  Should take about 20 minutes to swap screens.

$10 + shipping from 05850 (Vermont).

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Re: PowerBook 190 Battery

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In a message dated 9/30/03 9:27:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< What's their URL?  www.e-bone.com didn't work >>

Sorry, "e-bone" is a 'Net-centric euphamism for eBay.

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Re: PowerBook 190 Battery

[J Sand]

I think it was a spoof for ebay  :-)


> Brand new 190/5300 batteries are often available on e-bone for $20.

What's their URL?  www.e-bone.com didn't work, and I didn't see them
offhand under google. :)
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Re: PowerBook 190 Battery

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Brand new 190/5300 batteries are often available on e-bone for $20.

What's their URL?  www.e-bone.com didn't work, and I didn't see them
offhand under google. :)

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Re: PowerBook 190 Battery

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<<
Anyone have a PowerBook 190 battery for sale?
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Brand new 190/5300 batteries are often available on e-bone for $20.

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Re: PowerBook 190 Power adapter

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On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 05:20 am, PowerBooks wrote:

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:32:13 -0400
Subject: PowerBook 190 Power adapter
From: Scott Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi List-

I was wondering if anyone has a PowerBook 190 adaptor for sale? Or at 
least
a direction to point me in for a low cost alternative.

Thanks!

Scott
I was nosing around Shreve Systems the other day and saw them for some 
ridicously low price like five bucks. Battery chargers were around the 
same price.

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Re: PowerBook 190 Power adapter

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direction to point me in for a low cost alternative.
>>

Shreve Systems was selling them for five bucks during their closeout.

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Re: Powerbook 190 overclocking/detonation

[Josh Watson]

Hi all,

Hmm, well now that more than 1 person has reported this, i took a look at my own
190, and it has connections in exactly the same place (they are nicely soldered
though). Looks like it is a standard mod - just hand soldered on one and not on
the other.

Evan, I'd try the suggestions mentioned before for that 5300 with the same
problem (take the battery out and power it up, etc) as I think i *broke* my
190cs, whereas the others had a problem before.

Incidentally, surely Apple realised these 'books were going to just drop apart
when they built them - just took the keyboard, HDD and trackpad out to check
that, and two of the bits where the screws go in fell off! I hadn't even
overtightened or cross-screwed them!


I've given up on my dead 190cs (it was REA'd and everything :(), as its still
only good for making loud static and whistling noises. I feel my old 190 is
going to get a nice new case and screen...

This means i'll have most of a 190 in good parts. Anyone in the UK (or wanting
to pay postage to the US) want any of them?

Josh


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Re: Powerbook 190 overclocking/detonation

[Evan MacBeth]

Hi again,

I picked up a cheap-ish 190cs on eBay a while ago and earlier tonight tried to
upgrade it with an apple video card and IR board, and replace the RAM board. It
used to work slightly dodgily, so I thought the RAM board might have been fried.
However I got the old green light when I restarted it. I tried booting it
without the battery and it started to make an "interesting" burning plastic
smell... Anyway - it may well now be a gonner, but I took it apart to have a
look and it has several dodgy looking modifications to the motherboard. I wonder
if it has been overclocked unstabily - the mods are (i have no idea about
circuit diagrams in ASCII, so wish me luck):
Further to this, my 'book 190's just packed up with the exact same 
problem as this. I've had it for about a year now, so it's worked for a 
while.  But it has been sitting on the shelf for a couple of months - 
since I got a 5300. Could this period of hibernation have something to 
do with the problem perhaps?

Cheers,
Evan.
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Re: Powerbook 190 overclocking/detonation

[Josh Watson]

> Could you take a pic ?  I think the 16.6667 Mhz oscillator is the
> original one (gives 33.333 MHz).

Yeah, i just wonder what they were trying to do to it??

I haven't got a digi camera myself, which was why I posted the ASCII pics. I'll
try and borrow one from a friend - I might be able to put some pics up on the
web tomorrow night.

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Re: Powerbook 190 overclocking/detonation

[Tom and Lisa P]

Hi again,

I picked up a cheap-ish 190cs on eBay a while ago and earlier tonight tried to
upgrade it with an apple video card and IR board, and replace the 
RAM board. It
used to work slightly dodgily, so I thought the RAM board might have 
been fried.

However I got the old green light when I restarted it. I tried booting it
without the battery and it started to make an "interesting" burning plastic
smell... Anyway - it may well now be a gonner, but I took it apart to have a
look and it has several dodgy looking modifications to the 
motherboard. I wonder
if it has been overclocked unstabily - the mods are (i have no idea about
circuit diagrams in ASCII, so wish me luck):

   x
 | | |
 -
|UCC39120P|   (to right of PCMCIA slot- two legs soldered 
together as shown
|^ U 9537 |above the video connector)
 -
 | | |
   x

   ||
 --
|SG-615P  C|
| 16.6667 M|  (to the bottom right of the Whitney chip) - resistor soldered as
shown
| 5310A|
 --
  | |
X
|
A resistor with 104 ( or h0|  :) ) on it
Theres also a couple of dodgy connections on the bottom from CX03 to C314.
Is this a standard mod? It looks like a monkey did some of it?

Also, when I now turn it on (its outside the case), I just get a radio
interference noise down the headphones, which suggests the PRAM might actually
be dead... the burning smell suggests worse though
Cheers for any suggestions as to what someones done to this 'book?

Josh
Could you take a pic ?  I think the 16.6667 Mhz oscillator is the 
original one (gives 33.333 MHz).

Mad Dog

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Re: Powerbook 190 case top?

[Jim Scott]

Yep, greyscale tops are thinner than the color tops. The screen size
(smaller) and plastic surround are different too. However, the width and
height are the same dimensions. It's not a boring question if you've got a
cracked color lid/top and a good greyscale lid/top, because they won't
interchange and fit properly. -- Jim

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From: "Josh Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: Powerbook 190 case top?


> Hi all,
>
> Boring Question.
>
> I have had several 190/5300 powerbooks and I have just noticed that the
top
> of my Powerbook 190 is a different from all the others. Does the grey
model
> have a different lid from the colour ones?
>
> Josh
>



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Re: Powerbook 190?

[Nick]

Well, I would definately check those specs! 40 meg HD? That is extremely
small, and could barely hold 7.5.5! Actually, I don't even think it could.
My guess is it has 40megs free on the HD. Like John said run Apple System
Profiler on it. I am positive it was installed with 7.5.5, but just
incase. take it with you on a floppy. When you come back from checking
it, out please let us know what it does have.

Hope This Helps.
Nick


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Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Powerbook 190?


> I don't know if it was included with OS 7.5.5, but it may be worth
starting
> up Apple System Profiler on it... If it wasn't installed in 7.5.5, chuck
it
> on a floppy and bring it with you. In the 'System Profile' tab, under
> 'Hardware Overview' it'll tell you the processor type, and the Motherboard
> Model. (Along with all kinds of other stuff...)
>
> As for the Price Tag, I'd talk them down a LOT before thinking about it if
I
> were you... 8MB Ram, 40 Meg HD, sounds like it is going to have trouble
> keeping up with even simple tasks without some kind of upgrade... $NZ250
is
> more than that machine is worth, even if it IS a 5300... My 1400c/133 was
> under $AU200 with 1.3 GB and 64 MB Ram.
>
> --
> John
>
>
> On 24/2/03 2:02 PM, "Michael Railton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > They are asking $NZ250 ($US139approx). I might have to go and have
> > another look at it.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, Feb 24, 2003, at 15:48 Pacific/Auckland, Nick wrote:
> >
> >> Well, it could have been upgraded to a 5300 logicboard. Or, someone
> >> could
> >> have replaced the screen bezel with one from a 5300.Or, it could just
> >> be a
> >> 5300 with a 190 sticker. But yes, it is very possible that someone put
> >> a
> >> 5300 Mobo in that 190. Out of curiosity, how much is the shop asking?
> >>
> >> Hope This Help!
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Michael Railton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:44 PM
> >> Subject: Powerbook 190?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I have seen a powerbook 190 in a secondhand store but I have one
> >>> question. On the top of the LCD screen there is a powerpc stamp. But
> >>> as
> >>> far as I can tell the powerbook 190 has a 68040 cpu.
> >>> Could this have had its screen replaced or is something else up with
> >>> it?
> >>> Its running OS 7.5.5 and has 8Mb ram and a 40Mb ATA HDD.
> >>>
> >>> Any help appreciated
> >>>
> >>> Mike
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Re: Powerbook 190?

[John Smith]

I don't know if it was included with OS 7.5.5, but it may be worth starting
up Apple System Profiler on it... If it wasn't installed in 7.5.5, chuck it
on a floppy and bring it with you. In the 'System Profile' tab, under
'Hardware Overview' it'll tell you the processor type, and the Motherboard
Model. (Along with all kinds of other stuff...)

As for the Price Tag, I'd talk them down a LOT before thinking about it if I
were you... 8MB Ram, 40 Meg HD, sounds like it is going to have trouble
keeping up with even simple tasks without some kind of upgrade... $NZ250 is
more than that machine is worth, even if it IS a 5300... My 1400c/133 was
under $AU200 with 1.3 GB and 64 MB Ram.

--
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On 24/2/03 2:02 PM, "Michael Railton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> They are asking $NZ250 ($US139approx). I might have to go and have
> another look at it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, Feb 24, 2003, at 15:48 Pacific/Auckland, Nick wrote:
> 
>> Well, it could have been upgraded to a 5300 logicboard. Or, someone
>> could
>> have replaced the screen bezel with one from a 5300.Or, it could just
>> be a
>> 5300 with a 190 sticker. But yes, it is very possible that someone put
>> a
>> 5300 Mobo in that 190. Out of curiosity, how much is the shop asking?
>> 
>> Hope This Help!
>> Nick
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Michael Railton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:44 PM
>> Subject: Powerbook 190?
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I have seen a powerbook 190 in a secondhand store but I have one
>>> question. On the top of the LCD screen there is a powerpc stamp. But
>>> as
>>> far as I can tell the powerbook 190 has a 68040 cpu.
>>> Could this have had its screen replaced or is something else up with
>>> it?
>>> Its running OS 7.5.5 and has 8Mb ram and a 40Mb ATA HDD.
>>> 
>>> Any help appreciated
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Powerbook 190?

[Michael Railton]

They are asking $NZ250 ($US139approx). I might have to go and have 
another look at it.



On Monday, Feb 24, 2003, at 15:48 Pacific/Auckland, Nick wrote:

> Well, it could have been upgraded to a 5300 logicboard. Or, someone 
> could
> have replaced the screen bezel with one from a 5300.Or, it could just 
> be a
> 5300 with a 190 sticker. But yes, it is very possible that someone put 
> a
> 5300 Mobo in that 190. Out of curiosity, how much is the shop asking?
>
> Hope This Help!
> Nick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Railton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:44 PM
> Subject: Powerbook 190?
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I have seen a powerbook 190 in a secondhand store but I have one
>> question. On the top of the LCD screen there is a powerpc stamp. But 
>> as
>> far as I can tell the powerbook 190 has a 68040 cpu.
>> Could this have had its screen replaced or is something else up with 
>> it?
>> Its running OS 7.5.5 and has 8Mb ram and a 40Mb ATA HDD.
>>
>> Any help appreciated
>>
>> Mike
>>
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Re: Powerbook 190?

[Nick]

Well, it could have been upgraded to a 5300 logicboard. Or, someone could
have replaced the screen bezel with one from a 5300.Or, it could just be a
5300 with a 190 sticker. But yes, it is very possible that someone put a
5300 Mobo in that 190. Out of curiosity, how much is the shop asking?

Hope This Help!
Nick

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Subject: Powerbook 190?


> Hi,
> I have seen a powerbook 190 in a secondhand store but I have one
> question. On the top of the LCD screen there is a powerpc stamp. But as
> far as I can tell the powerbook 190 has a 68040 cpu.
> Could this have had its screen replaced or is something else up with it?
> Its running OS 7.5.5 and has 8Mb ram and a 40Mb ATA HDD.
>
> Any help appreciated
>
> Mike
>
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Re: Powerbook 190

[Bruce Johnson]

Georg Portenkirchner wrote:
> Thanks for the information!
> No there are no AA added to the serial number.
> I found information on the 5300/190 repair programme on Apple's website.
> according to that the programme last 7 years after the manufactoring has 
> stopped.
> As that was in 1996 I still might have the chance to get it for free.
> Have to talk to a Apple shop here.

Sorry. The RMA program ended the begining of June this year.


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Re: Powerbook 190

[Georg Portenkirchner]

Hi Mad Dog,

first I will try if an Apple shop here will do it as part of the Apple 
repair programme. If not, I will try that.
At http://www.macfaq.net/troubleshooting.html I found short instructions 
how to take apart Apple computers.

Thanks Georg

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Subject: PowerBooks Digest #970
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:49:31 -0400

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:19:35 -0400
From: Tom & Lisa P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Powerbook 190
In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-id: 

>Hello all!
>
>As I am new to the list I don't know if you already talked about this, but
>as I heard this problem occurs quite often. I got a Powerbook 190 that is
>in good shape.
>Only there is a problem with the powersupply. If I move the Powerbook and
>the plug moves, the Powerbook gets of.
>Is there a way to reapir this. Maybe there is a instruction page somewhere
>in the net?
>
>Thank you in advance
>
>Georg
>
>P.S.: Hope you understand what I wannna say cause english is not my mother
>tongue.

This sounds like the AC plug on the motherboard is loose.  If you are 
willing to take your computer apart, it should be easy to fix with a 
soldering iron and a bit of solder.

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Re: Powerbook 190

[Georg Portenkirchner]

Thanks for the information!
No there are no AA added to the serial number.
I found information on the 5300/190 repair programme on Apple's website.
according to that the programme last 7 years after the manufactoring has 
stopped.
As that was in 1996 I still might have the chance to get it for free.
Have to talk to a Apple shop here.

Thanks for the help

Georg

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:09:10 EDT
Subject: Re: Powerbook 190

In a message dated 8/20/02 2:39:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
 Only there is a problem with the powersupply. If I move the Powerbook 
and 
the plug moves, the Powerbook gets of. Is there a way to reapir this ...
>>

If your 190 has "AA" added as a suffix to its serial number, it has 
already 
been through the recall for powering and other problems.

One of the fixes added in that recall was to replace the motherboard OR to 
replace the power connector so that intermittent connections such as you 
describe won't happen.

My 190s/5300s all have this "AA" and none of them have powering problems. 
In 
fact, they are completely trouble-free.

I believe the 190/5300 recall is long since over.


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Re: Powerbook 190

[Tom & Lisa P]

>Hello all!
>
>As I am new to the list I don't know if you already talked about this, but
>as I heard this problem occurs quite often. I got a Powerbook 190 that is
>in good shape.
>Only there is a problem with the powersupply. If I move the Powerbook and
>the plug moves, the Powerbook gets of.
>Is there a way to reapir this. Maybe there is a instruction page somewhere
>in the net?
>
>Thank you in advance
>
>Georg
>
>P.S.: Hope you understand what I wannna say cause english is not my mother
>tongue.

This sounds like the AC plug on the motherboard is loose.  If you are 
willing to take your computer apart, it should be easy to fix with a 
soldering iron and a bit of solder.

Mad Dog

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Re: Powerbook 190

[PeterH5322]

In a message dated 8/20/02 2:39:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
... Only there is a problem with the powersupply. If I move the Powerbook and 
the plug moves, the Powerbook gets of. Is there a way to reapir this ...
>>

If your 190 has "AA" added as a suffix to its serial number, it has already 
been through the recall for powering and other problems.

One of the fixes added in that recall was to replace the motherboard OR to 
replace the power connector so that intermittent connections such as you 
describe won't happen.

My 190s/5300s all have this "AA" and none of them have powering problems. In 
fact, they are completely trouble-free.

I believe the 190/5300 recall is long since over.

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