Re: Focus Problem

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 12/16/07, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

>Christian Roth / 07.12.16 / 6:02 AM wrote:
>
>>I am seeing the exact same symptoms with PowerMail 5.5.3 b4480 on Mac OS
>>X 10.4.11. The problems might have started with one of the recent Mac OS
>>X system updates, I guess (either 10.4.10 or 10.4.11), but I cannot say
>>exactly.
>
>Yes, I think 10.4.11 as well as Leo started it.
>It took me a while to realize 10.4.11 and Leo are the only thing has
>changed to my PM env.

Well, 

I just got out the shotgun (MainMenu) and did the following:

 - Repaired Permissions (seemed to only find permissions related to
iTunes and Flash to repair)

 - Update Prebindings (I've heard that this is no longer relevant in
10.4.?, and the log seemed to only contain 'image not found' and 'no
need to re-prebind' messages at a quick scan.

 - Cleaned user caches - A bunch of PowerMail cache files were listed

 - Cleaned archived logs

Now, the front PowerMail window snaps into focus when I click on the
dock icon or use the application switcher.

It occurs to me that I have my Cube set to sleep between 10:00 pm and
5:00 am, so perhaps the daily/weekly/monthly scripts could have also
'fixed' this problem.

Anyhow, problem solved for me...

 - Don


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PowerMac G4 Cube, 450 MHz,  Mac OS 10.4.11, 1.25 GB RAM

Focus Problem

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, all - 

Anyone else having 'focus' problems with PowerMail?  I was 'away' from
PowerMail for a couple of months, and restarted using it just prior to
the v5.6 update. The symptoms I am having:

 - If PowerMail is not the front application, and I click on the Dock
icon for PowerMail, the menu bar appears, but not any of the PowerMail
windows. A second click (not a double-click) on the Dock icon brings up
the window that was frontmost in PowerMail when last used.

 - The same applies if I select PowerMail using Command-Tab, except
there is no way to second-click to bring a window to the front.

 - In either case, the Window menu items for Mail Browser and Recent
Mail don't bring the respective windows to the front.  However, if there
is a message window open, that can be selected from the menu and it
comes to the front.

 - The keyboard shortcuts for the Mail Browser and Recent Mail _do_ work
to display these windows, as does selecting the window from the Dock menu.

PowerMail 5.6.1, build 4499  
See below for my system description.

 - Don


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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, 450 MHz,  Mac OS 10.4.11, 1.25 GB RAM

Re: Offline

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 8/9/07, Vince Smith wrote:

>I have created another Schedule and Location entry called offline - in
>this I set connect every 0 minutes, etc.
>
>If I am without a suitable network connection -I change my location and
>schedule to that one.

Taking this one step further, at one time I had AppleScripts to switch
to specific schedules.  It was simpler for me to select the schedule I
wanted from the Script menu that to go through the Setup menu.

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Re: Setting Criteria Before Sending Messages

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 5/29/07, Giovanni Andreani wrote:

>Thank you Rene, I tried with the filter you recommended, but it sends the
>messages just the same.
>This is how I set the filter up:
>
>Conditions
>If number of recipients   To or CC > 1
>Receive mode is not BCC
>
>Actions
>Display Alert "No BCC Set!"
>Move message into folder Folder Name
>
>
>When all conditions are met, the alert displays correctly, but even if I
> don't close the alert window, after a few seconds the message is sent.


I've only played a little with AppleScript, but in the PowerMail
dictionary, there is a message property for 'status', which can be set
to 'draft'.  If the conditions were met, is it possible to run an
AppleScript that sets the message status to draft?

 - Don

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Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 4/15/07, Winston Weinmann wrote:

>Anyway, I am running OS 10.4.9. When I try to print HTML email I get an
>empty box with a subject line at the top. Can I print HTML email (as
>HTML) from PowerMail?

Hi, Winston - 

When you have an HTML email displayed, click on the body of the HTML
message so that it is highlighted.  If you then choose File/Print... (or
choose 'Print...' from the drop-down menu that shows when you click and
hold on the Print icon) the HTML portion (only) will be printed.  No
header information.  Also, the printing happens on my system immediately
with no intermediate Preview dialog.

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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, 450 MHz,  Mac OS 10.4.9, 1.25 GB RAM

Re: From Emailer to PowerMail

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, Joe - 

Let me see if I can help with some of your wish list:

On or about 4/14/07, Joe Hallett wrote:

>I've been considering a change from Emailer to PowerMail for about 2
>years. On March 1st of this year I made the switch. Now after a month of
>really using PowerMail, here is my wish list - if PowerMail already can
>do some of these things I would appreciate your tips! Thanks.
>
>Logs - recent mail - any way to retain dated lists of messages that
>arrived in predetermined time periods

The Find function has date fields.  You can find messages received or
sent before and/or after specific dates or time windows.  From the
toolbar, click and hold on the Find (magnifying glass) icon and choose
'Search Messages...".  For best (fastest) results, make sure that you
have indexing turned on in the preferences.  The Find function also
seems to 'remember' the last search you did for each of the listed categories.

>Save Text to Many - this Applescript can be very handy for creating
>searchable text from selected mail or the contents of a folder- for
>example - all mail related to a specific  trade  show or product.

Not really sure what you are asking for here, but again, the Find
function has many options for searching for text.  You can highlight
text in a message, Choose Copy (or Command-V) and open the Find dialog. 
Your copied text will be displayed.

>
>Filters - I understand the value of using a stop filter but it would be
>helpful to be able to run a sequence of filters after the stop...not
>just single filters

I haven't found the need, but you can have an Applescript perform filter
functions, and run that as an action at the end of a filter.

>Where can I find a succinct description of synchronizing between the PM
>address book and the Mac address book

Go to the Help menu, and choose "Manual...".  There is a brief
description of this in the section on Preferences. 
>
>Is there a place to see mail database statistics - number of folders &
>messages?

Other than an AppleScript for counting messages in the database (see
source below) I don't know of anything.

>
>My wife and I share access to one PowerMail installation. It would be
>really helpful to be able to toggle our two default sending accounts by
>a single keystroke...or perhaps be able to tab into the account box when
>setting up an outgoing new message  - now we leave the sender blank &
>select it from the Account pulldown list

That's how I toggle between sending accounts.  Are you sharing one Mac
User account as well?  If you each have a User account, you would each
have your own PowerMail user folder with your own mail.
>
>Is there a list of Applescripts other than those provided with PowerMail

There are some at:

<http://www.ctmdev.com/support/>

Hit the 'Tools' tab and then the 'PowerMail' button.

>
>Is there a way to mark incoming messages as "read" (checkmark) after
>they have been automatically forwarded by a filter without losing the
>indication that they have been forwarded

I'm not sure what you are asking here.  You can assign a label to a
message in a filter, and so have it 'tagged' as filtered...

>
>I would like to be able to open the mail browser from the recent mail
>window by clicking on a toolbar icon

Yes, that would be nice, but try Command-Control-B

Hope this helps...

 - Don

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Re: attachments

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 3/31/07, Marlyse Comte wrote:

>When I was cleaning out the other day old messages and archiving  
>them, I suddenly realized that my attachment folder is choke full  
>with attachments from spam email. I daily delete spam and up to now I  
>thought that when I "empty trash" attachments get automatically  
>trashed too... but why then would I have 2,000 spam attachments in my  
>attachment folder?
>
>Can somebody refresh my - obviously weak memory - on how to ensure  
>that attachments do get trashed when the message gets trashed?

Trashing of attachments seems to be working for me.  I have PowerMail
set up to automatically remove messages from the Trash after 14 days
(when quitting PowerMail).  I have a some messages in my Spam folder
that are about 6 weeks old, some of which have attachments.  I moved one
to the Mail Trash, and the attachment was not moved to the system
Trash.  However, when I used a 'Delete Message immediately' script on
this message, the attachment was moved to the system Trash.  I also had
a few messages in my Mail Trash with attachments, and these attachments
moved to the system Trash when I emptied the Mail Trash.

One of the Spam messages that I had was more than the 14 days old that
is my default for removing messages from the Mail Trash.  I moved it to
the Mail Trash, and quit PowerMail.  It did not get removed from the
Mail Trash.  This suggests to me that PowerMail is storing the date that
a message is moved to the Mail Trash, and that it probably also stores
the link between a message and its attachment(s).  PowerMail has a bunch
of cache files (in your user/Library/Caches folder) as well as the
several index files.  I wonder if somewhere along the line your
PowerMail 'lost' the links between messages and attachments...

I am using the default Attachments folder location.  Have you chosen a
different Attachments folder from the preferences?  If you try to open
an attachment from within a Spam message, is the attachment displayed?


HTH...

 - Don

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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, 450 MHz,  Mac OS 10.4.9, 1.25 GB RAM

Re: Displaying actual email address not name

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 3/9/07, Shark Attack wrote:

Hi, Rick - 

I also was unable to find any way to display the actual email address in
a browser list.  It would be nice to have that as a selection in the
View/View Options... settings.

>
>Right now I need to see those messages displayed to show the actual
>email address. In other words, rather than have the message displayed
>as being from 'Joe Bloggs (work)' I want to see that it was from
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Is this possible? I've not found a preference setting that seems to
>handle this. And, just this one time, I need it.

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Scripting Questions

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, all - 

I would like to create a couple of scripts in PowerMail using the Find
function.  I've taken a quick looked the dictionary, but don't see
anything obvious.  I _am_ an AppleScript newbie/idiot, so maybe it's
just me...

What I want to do is create AppleScripts using Find that emulate Smart
Folders.  For example:

1) A script that will find/display all messages with a specific label
anywhere in the database.  I have a label (ToDo) which is automatically
set by some filters, and sometimes manually, to keep track of things I
have to do at some later time.  I also want to have these messages
remain in their respective folders.  

2) A script that will find/display all unread messages, for those times
when my cat shuts down my computer (No, I am NOT kidding!) which defeats
the Recent Mail window.

I can do these things manually and easily with the Find function now,
but it would be nice to automate them...

Any ideas?

Thanks,

 - Don

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Don V. Zahniser

Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, Elaine -

On or about 2/19/07, ETM wrote:

>Options wanted:  Redirect mail smoothly for others
>(mailing lists),

No comment - I don't use this kind of functionality.

>WYSIWYG compose/send,

PowerMail is text-only; no formatting.

>ability to
>fend off HTML (TB! uses tabs and I read the plain
>text mail on top of HTML and rarely even look at
>the HTML tab),

From what you describe, PowerMail has similar flexibility in doing this,
but instead of a tab-based interface, the reading 'engine' is chosen by
an icon at the bottom of the window.

>delete duplicates across an
>account,

I believe there are some Applescripts out there to do this.

>multiple accounts,

Yes.

>no limits on size
>beyond limits of PC on which PowerMail is
>installed,

PowerMail has a database size limit of 2GB.  Several users are
requesting that this limit be removed/enlarged.

>built-in backup and restore system.

I'm not aware of such capability in PowerMail.

>Decent search capability across the entire mail
>program.  I tend to use the mail program for
>filing important notes and attached graphics.

I would describe PowerMail's search capability as 'superlative'...

>Many thanks for a response.  I haven't yet
>installed the trial program, assume that it is
>only good for so many days, I'd like to get a feel
>for whether most or all of these options are there
>before I give the program a go.

The trial is fully featured, with no time limit, but with a limit of 200
messages in the database to allow for testing out its functionality.
When you register, you get a key that unlocks this limitation.

>No trees were killed in the sending of this
>message. However, a large number of electrons were
>terribly inconvenienced.

Love the tagline!

 - Don

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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, 450 MHz,  Mac OS 10.4.8, 1.25 GB RAM

Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie

[Don V. Zahniser]

From someone who is a longtime PowerMail user, but who is waffling about
using Apple Mail since recently moving to Tiger (10.4.8):

On or about 2/19/07, Richard Stoddard wrote:

>1. I do want to keep separate in/out/sent boxes for each account. (I
>have four and my wife has two.) Does PowerMail have that feature?

AFAIK, there is only one In and Out Tray, and a Sent tray is optional.
You can set up a filter with the account as one of the conditions, and
sort into specified mailboxes as an action.  This should work fine with
'In' and 'Sent' mail, but I don't think you can simulate this with an
'Out' mailbox, although you can have the account information listed in
the view of the mailbox, and use that for sorting.

I suggest that you set each user of the computer up with his/her own
system account.  PowerMail supports multiple users in this way, and you
would each have a separate, private mail database.  This would also be
the case with Apple Mail.

>2. I want to set at what point lines wrap, something I cannot get
>AppleMail to do. In part I don't like lines runing all the way across
>my screen, but I also intend to use GPG, and need a fixed wrap point.

I couldn't find a setting to define the wrap point.

>
>3. I like to thread certain mailboxes, but with AppleMail, when I
>open the "parent" e-mail, it opens all messages in the thread, a real
>pain if there are a lot of responses.

In Apple Mail, First hit the 'disclosure' icon at the left side of the
column, which displays all the messages in the thread, then you can open
any message in the thread individually.

PowerMail doesn't support threading.  However, PowerMail has extremely
fast, flexible and powerful search capabilities, which could help toward
the same end.  I like threading, but find that I really don't _need_ it.

>4. How good is its anti-spam capability?

PowerMail has excellent filtering capabilities of its own, which can be
very effective.  With the addition of SpamSieve, and a little training,
it is fantastic.  Apple Mail is perhaps a little easier to get going on
spam filtering than PowerMail because of its Junk Filter capability, but
not as effective as when using SpamSieve in either Apple Mail or PowerMail.


A few of other comments:

Apple Mail supports Smart Mailboxes, which are very, very useful.  This
is the one feature that may capture and hold me with Apple Mail.
PowerMail has only one 'smart' feature, which is the 'Recent Mail'
window.  I have one Smart Mailbox in Apple Mail to show me only unread
mail, and another that shows me anything that I have marked as 'flagged'
- sort of a quick 'todo' function that keeps the messages in their
various filtered mailboxes, but also displays them for me to follow up on.

As far as I can tell, Apple Mail doesn't actually decode (most?)
attachments until you manually open them.  PowerMail, OTOH, puts all
attachments into a specific (user definable) folder, and trashes them
when you trash the message.  It is a lot easier to set up a virus
checker (I use ClamXav) to check PowerMail attachments.  I much prefer
PowerMail's approach.

PowerMail is more graceful about maintaining a database file with large
numbers of messages (at least up to the 2GB limit).  I am running
PowerMail and Apple Mail in parallel, having imported messages from
PowerMail to Apple Mail.  My largest mailbox has about 5000 messages,
which really isn't that many.  If I open that mailbox in PowerMail, the
messages are shown as fast as I can register that anything is
happening.  In Apple Mail it takes several seconds to display this
mailbox on my stock 450MHz G4 Cube.

PowerMail is designed for those users who prefer to deal in text-based
email.  There is no built-in facility for composing messages with
different fonts, styles, etc.  The message reader supports reading HTML
email, either within PowerMail (with or without images) or within the
default Web browser.  I typically run with the HTML reader 'disabled',
which shows me the text part of a multipart message (if any); I can
always select to view the HTML as needed.

HTH...

 - Don


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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, Mac OS 10.4.8, 1.25 GB RAM

Re: No way back - incomplete feature

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 11/6/06, Steve Abrahamson wrote:

>I think this is a feature "hole:"
>
>If you have a message that has already been sent, and you select it and
>select Send from the Mail menu (or hit command-L), the message will
>change to un-sent and be in queue again.
>
>That's a great feature for re-sending an email someone needs again.

I think it would be a good feature to prompt for actions if a message is
in Sent status and 'Send' is chosen - i.e. "Do you want to send this
message again (no undo), create a copy to send, or Cancel?"  I would
think that creating a copy should be the default action.

>But if you hit it *accidentally,* there's no way back. There's no Undo,
>and you can't manually set a message to "Sent." That message will
>forever be Unsent and pending - out of sort order in it's folder, in
>your "unsent" font style, unless you actually go and re-send it... which
>can be embarrassing if it's not a friend you can just say "heh -
>nevermind" to.

Note that by creating a copy to send, your original and the copy would be
properly date stamped in the respective folders.

>Is there a way around this that I'm missing? Is there a way to set a
>message to "Sent" without sending?

I couldn't find anything, but then I am a casual user of PowerMail.

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Don V. Zahniser

Re: 2 features I'd like

[Don V. Zahniser]

Ken - 

I was able to reproduce what you describe by going into "Setup/Mail
Accounts..." and setting the account to 'No Text Signature'.  If you
choose a default signature for the account, it will insert between the
cursor and quoted text. You can change the signature when composing the
note and it will stay in the 'between' location.  I use just my name as
the default signature, and use others which display other information as
needed.

On or about 10/29/06, Ken Pope wrote:

>Thanks, Don.  This is strange: I made the change in Preferences but
>after I type a reply at the top of the window, PM still puts the sig
>file at the bottom, below the message that I'm replying to.  Any
>suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?

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Re: 2 features I'd like

[Don V. Zahniser]

Ken - 

Try going to the menu bar: PowerMail/Preferences, under 'Replying', and
select the option to 'Move insertion point by default' to 'Before quoted
text'.  That's how I had it set when I replied to this note.

On your second question, I think what you want is found in the Mail menu
- 'Redirect'.  You can also customize the toolbar so that it has a
'Redirect' icon.  See the menu bar: View/Customize Toolbar...

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Don V. Zahniser

On or about 10/29/06, Ken Pope wrote:

>I wish I could place the cursor at a particular place in a message and
>then, when I choose a sig file, have the sig file appear at the cursor. 

>The other feature I'd love is a re-send function that would prepare a
>message for re-sending while leaving all addresslines blank.  

Re: Cannot send from one account

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 10/12/06, PowerMail Engineering wrote:

>I am not sur to understand precisely the problem, but maybe you have a
>waiting message with your default account, and some other waiting
>messages with the other account. If you have set up your "Mail
>Schedulings and Locations" to send to SMTP servers "one at a time", if a
>problem occurs when processing the first account, it may prevent the
>messages to be sent via the second account.

When the problem started, there was only the one waiting message in my
out box (the one that I had  changed accounts on).  However, something
may have gotten messed up due to the particular combination of accounts
that I am using (see below).

>You can try to reset your outgoing queue (by pressing command-option
>when launching PowerMail and checking the corresponding checkbox), then
>set your Mail Schedulings and Locations options to send to SMTP servers
>simultaneously.

If I see something similar again, I will try to reset the queue. 

Some background, which is probably relevant to the problem I was having
(sorry it is so long):

I am using two accounts, one with a dial-up provider and one with my
cable internet provider, which I only started using a couple of months
ago.  In both accounts, the SMTP 'authentication' is that I must be
connected to their server.   No user or password authentication.  I have
my network port configuration set up so that it looks at the modem first,
and then at built-in ethernet.  The issues:

 - If I have a message queued from my dial-up account, I must first
connect using my modem and then send. If I don't dial first, the message
is rejected. 

 - If I am sending from my cable internet provider account and the modem
is connected to my dial-up provider, the message is rejected.

 - I had my Schedulings set to send immediately, my cable internet
provider set as the default account (and to use this account for
replying), and Options set to only send to one server at a time.  With
this combination of settings, I had set myself up for repeated failures
as I either forgot to change an account in a message, or forgot to dial
before sending to my dial-up account.  

It is entirely possible that I may have set up a series of events that
confused the PowerMail outgoing queue.

I think I have now found the appropriate settings for my situation.  I
have none of the SMTP options under 'Schedulings' checked, and unchecked
the box under 'Locations' for using the default account for replying. 
The net result is that I queue messages to the Out box and send them
manually.  I still have to be careful how I am connected, but I think I
have reduced the potential for errors.

 - Don


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Don V. Zahniser

Re: Cannot send from one account

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 10/11/06, Midi Cox wrote:

>I have upgraded to Powermail 5.5fc1 and all of a sudden I cannot send
>email from some secondary email adddresses. After I compose the email it
>just sits in the out tray.
>
>I am using OS 10.4.7.

I _think_ I am seeing the same problem, and it did just start with
PowerMail 5.5fc1.

It appears to me that, under this newest release, changing the account of
a draft message is no longer working (successfully).  I had one of my
accounts set as the default for sending, and was manually changing the
account for messages (typically mailing lists, of which the PowerMail
list is one) that had to go out by my second account.  

Since updating to 5.5fc1, those messages that I changed never showed a
connecting dialog when sent, but it appeared that PowerMail had connected
to my default SMTP account to try to send them (which failed 'silently' -
If I quit PowerMail after such a failure, I got a message that I was
'still connected').  I did some experimentation that seemed to show that
it didn't matter which account was set to default.  If I changed the
account of a message, PowerMail always connected to the default account,
even if none of the messages were being sent by that path.  

I was able to (sometimes/eventually) get a message that was 'stuck' sent
by either logging out and then back in, or quitting and restarting
PowerMail.  I did notice one message that I got 'unstuck' was properly
sent by its 'new' account, but then PowerMail connected to the other
(original) account's SMTP server, even though there was no message queued
to send by that path.  I had to disconnect from the server manually.

My workaround at this time is to have none of the SMTP sending options in
the Schedulings tab checked, so that I am sending all messages manually
through the Connection menu.  In the Locations tab, I also have the
checkbox for 'Also use this account when replying' unchecked, so that
messages are always replied-to using the account through which they were
received.

In response to another post, I have had (other) messages that didn't get
sent, in which the status of the message was changed from 'Waiting' to
'Failed', with a triangle icon with an enclosed exclamation point.

 - Don


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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, Mac OS 10.3.9, 1.25 GB RAM

Re: PowerMail 5.5 final candidate

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 10/10/06, cplummer wrote:

>"About Powermail" displays "256 Users License for Christopher Plummer" in
>upper left corner.

Mine displays "1 users license for Don Zahniser".


BTW - the animated 'about' dialog is cute and all that, but it causes CPU
use on my system to be maxed out as long as it is open.

PowerMac G4 Cube; 450MHz; 1.25GB RAM; Mac OS 10.3.9

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Don V. Zahniser

Re: Copying address bug still there

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 10/10/06, Alan Harper wrote:

>O, must be something I have added. I'll work on it sometime--and I
>withdraw my bug.

...or perhaps not.  I get the same error on my system.

PowerMac G4 Cube; 450MHz; 1.25GB RAM; Mac OS 10.3.9
PowerMail 5.5fc1 build 4453

Note that the Preferences under Synchronization have to be set so that
the addresses open in the PowerMail address book by default, not Apple's.


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Don V. Zahniser

Re: PM Discussion list

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>It is interesting if somehow it indicates that I am sending from  
>eznet.net server because I have never had account with eznet.net. I  
>am sending from .mac account.

I am probably the only list member with an eznet.net account.  It's a
local ISP in Western NY.


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Don V. Zahniser

PM Discussion List and SpamAssasin

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, All- 

Starting yesterday (that I first noticed), approximately half of the
messages from the PowerMail discussion list are tagged by SpamAssassin
(run by my ISP) as spam.  I was able to adjust my filters so that the PM
messages wind up in my preferred folder, but they still have the subject
tagging and spam analysis text incorporated in the message.  

A couple of the issues I found:

1) This appears to be the SpamAssassin rule that tags the PM list messages:

 10 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
   [Blocked - see <http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?212.98.36.147>]

2) Whatever software is altering the messages prior to my receiving them
is chopping out a bunch of header material, including the 'Reply-to:'
data.  As I was using this to identify my PM list messages, the tagged
ones went into my Spam folder.  

The second item really bothers me.   

It looks as though I may have to disable the SpamAssassin filtering,
which up until now has been very helpful.

Any thoughts?

 - Don



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Don V. Zahniser

Re: PM Discussion list

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>I was trying for some time to unsubscribe from the list.
>
>No success. Mails keep coming in.

Last spring, I tried several times to unsubscribe from one email address,
and to subscribe with another using the tool on the CTM web site. 
Nothing seemed to work.  I never was successful at making the change.

 - Don

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Don V. Zahniser

Re: any recommendations re: upgrading for non-Intel?

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Version 5.5 only brings a few minor bug fixes, in addition to being
>faster and much more stable on intel macs. However, the database format
>has changed in order to be used on both architectures, so we would
>appreciate feedback from some PowerPC users as well.

I created archives of my PowerMail application folder and my PowerMail
mail folder prior to upgrading.  So far, I have had no difficulties at
all.  The upgrade has appeared seamless.

PowerMac G4 Cube; 450MHz; 1.25GB RAM; Mac OS 10.3.9

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Don V. Zahniser

Re: Odd Toolbar Icon

[Don V. Zahniser]

On or about 6/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>This happen to me time after time and then after a restart of PowerMail
>it goes away. I think Jérôme may have some info on where exactly these
>icons are stored on disc and how to make PM reload them.

Interesting - I had quit PowerMail several times, and logged out and back
in several times since posting that note, and the icon was still messed
up.  When I saw your response, I quit PowerMail and relaunched, and now
it's back to the document with pencil icon.

Go figure...

Thanks for the response!

 - Don

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Don V. Zahniser

Odd Toolbar Icon

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, All - 

Late yesterday, I noticed that the 'New' button in the PowerMail
toolbar(s) has somehow gotten a new icon.  It appears as two columns of 4
pairs of similar icons.  As they are very small, it's hard for me to see
them well enough to describe.  They are all 'squashed' vertically.  I
can't make anything of the top pair; the second pair look like almost-
identical mp3 document icons; the third pair are dark ovals, and the
bottom pair appear similar to the '@' character.  This 'icon' appears the
same in the 'Customize Toolbar' panel for whatever window I have open.

Any ideas?  Any 'fix'?

Thanks!

 - Don 

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Don V. Zahniser

New PowerMail 5 user question 1

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, All - 

I've recently upgraded from PowerMail 4 to PowerMail 5 with SpamSieve,
and overall I am very pleased and impressed.  However, I have run across
a couple of behaviors that seem to me to be bugs.  The first one I would
like to ask about deals with HTML display:

With the HTML reader turned on in Preferences, and also the setting to
"Prefer HTML when plain text is available" checked:

If I have a mailbox of messages, and double-click on a message to open it
in its own pane, the message opens with HTML displayed.  If I then use
the arrows to move between notes, the HTML reader continues to function.
 However, if I Option-Click the arrows to delete the current message and
move to the next/previous message while displaying an HTML-based message,
and the next message is also HTML-based, only the plain text version of
the note is displayed.  If I go to the globe icon at the bottom of the
page and click to 'Display HTML', nothing happens.  If I close the
message and reopen it in its own pane, the HTML portion of the message is
appropriately displayed.

Bug?

Thanks! 

 - Don


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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, Mac OS 10.3.9, 512MB RAM

Re: OT: A-NO-NE MIDI CC Finder is out

[Don V. Zahniser]

Interesting - This is the first message that I have received from the
list since the first week of May.  Since my note about not getting
digests (to which several responded) I unsubscribed and resubscribed, to
switch over to individual message mode, but still nothing until today. 
And it shows that it was sent yesterday.

I know my ISP is having problems bouncing mail - I had to provide a
different email address to get mailings from several Yahoo groups, and
when CTM sent my registration key for PM 5, it bounced until they tried
sending from an alternate address.  Very frustrating trying to cope with
the support people when you _know_ you should be getting emails, and they
don't arrive...

Now that I have confirmation that the list knows that I exist - could
someone reply off-list and give me an idea of the average number of
messages a day that have been sent over the past couple of weeks, so I
can try once again to get this fixed?  Assuming that things haven't
already magically fixed themselves.

Thanks!

 - Don

P.S. - I am really enjoying PM5, but have run into a couple of minor
issues that I would like to discuss with y'all - but no point in asking
yet until I know I'll see the responses.


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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, Mac OS 10.3.9, 512MB RAM

Re: Anybody Out There?

[Don V. Zahniser]

Thanks to the several of you who responded to my note.   

I am subscribed in digest mode, and got my last digest on May 2. Maybe
digest mode is broken?  At least I know that I was able to send a message
to the list, so hopefully someone at CTM will notice my concerns.  

I'll try to be a bit more patient on my registration key...

Thanks again,
 - Don

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Don V. Zahniser

Anybody Out There?

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, All - 

Has CTM dropped off the face of the earth?  Since May 2, I have gotten no
list digests.  What's worse, I submitted my registration information to
upgrade from PM 4 to PM 5 on May 4 or 5, my credit card was charged over
a week ago, but still no word from CTM.  I have tried the mail contact
form on their web site, but to no avail.



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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, Mac OS 10.3.9, 512MB RAM, PowerMail 4.2.1

Re: PowerMail Doesn't Start TCP Connection Automatically Any More

[Don V. Zahniser]

Rein - 

Open your 'PowerMail Files' folder and look in there.  In mine (which I
located in my Documents folder), there's a 'User Prefs' file and a 'Setup
Database'.  You can try dragging these to a different location (possibly
as well as the prefs files in the Preferences folder) and restart
PowerMail to see if that will help.  If you have compacted your database,
there should also be a 'Setup Database.old' file.

HTH

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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
PB1400/133MHz; 64Mb RAM; MacOS 9.0.4; PM 4.2.1

>I think I'd like to reset PowerMail to it's original settings throughout,
>enter my purchase key and start from scratch again.  How do I do that? 
>Must I uninstall and reinstall the entire app?  When I deleted the User
>Prefs file my key was still there and PM launched as usual.  I've long
>since copied down all my settings in a separate file (including my
>purchase code), so that's no problem.  I just wondered what file I have
>to delete for PM to reset completely.  In other words, which file
>contains the user code?

Re: PowerMail/Epson conflict

[Don V. Zahniser]

I reported a problem between PowerMail, Mac OS 9.1, and my Epson Stylus
740 to PowerMail Engineering back in May 2003 when we were still in
4.1.2, and also posted a note to the list about this issue a few months
later.  I _think_ I resolved the issue on my machine by making sure that
Appletalk was not pointing to my Printer/Modem port, even when turned
off.  I don't recall having seen it under Mac OS 8.6 or 9.0.4.

PB1400/133MHz; 64Mb RAM; MacOS 9.0.4; PM 4.2.1
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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>A problem has arisen with a conflict between PowerMail and my Epson
>Stylus Color 600 printer.  Any time PM is turned on my printer fails to
>function properly and I must do a factory reset (only achieved by turning
>off my computer, unplugging the serial cord to the printer, resetting,
>reconnecting and restarting).  I have duplicated this malfunction in two
>ways: printer on first and then launching PM (resulting in the printing
>of 1/3 page of garbage) or PM on first and powering up the printer
>(resulting in printer power light flashing).  Both cases necessitate a
>factory reset of the printer to enable functionality once again.  Any Ideas?

Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2062 - 03/07/05

[Don V. Zahniser]

Reporting in...

PB1400/133MHz; 64Mb RAM; MacOS 9.0.4; PM 4.2.1

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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Brand new to the list and PowerMail, as you may have seen from my
>previous post earlier today.  I'd very much appreciate knowing how many
>individuals utilize this list, how many of those are currently working
>with v4.2.1 and just for yucks, how many are still holdouts on MacOS 9.1.
> Can I get a show of hands?  :)

Re: Receiving PDFs

[Don V. Zahniser]

Try checking the file mappings.  I believe that PowerMail uses these
settings to assign type/creator codes to (PC) files as they are received.
 The most straightforward way to do this in in the File Exchange control
panel, under the PC Exchange tab (although you can also use the Internet
control panel).  Scroll down until you hit the pdf extension.  It should
indicate Acrobat or Acrobat Reader (depending on your user's setup) as
the application, and PDF as the file type.  If you highlight the pdf line
and hit the Change button, you can edit the settings.  You can select the
application, and then choose a type known to the application. On the
right hand side of the pane, the Handle By: control should indicate "Save
to File".

 - Don

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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rumored to have said:

>One of our users, running PM 4.21 and OS 9.21, seems to have lost the
>ability to double-click any PDF files received directly from the message
>window.  Other document types are fine.  I've rebuilt the desktop, to no
>avail.  She has quite a lot of other PDF files on her hard drive which
>open fine in Acrobat and have the correct icon; it seems specific to PDFs
>received via PowerMail that lose the type/creator code, revert to a
>generic icon, and fail to open when double-clicked.  (Of course, they
>open fine when using the File:Open command in Acrobat 5.)
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>z
>
>

Re: For the Wish List

[Don V. Zahniser]

Kathleen - 

You can deselect individual messages in a selected (highlighted) list by
Command-clicking on them.

I am using PowerMail 4.2.1

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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Powerbook 1400cs, 133MHz, 64Mb, Mac OS 9.0.4

On Monday, July 5, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rumored to have said:

>At work, I have to use a pc and have Pegasus Mail.  There is one thing it
>does that I wish could be incorporated into PowerMail.  When highlighting
> groups of messages for deletion if an error is made, I can back up and
>unhighlight one message at a time.  With PM the only way is to clear the
>action and start over.
>
>Kathleen
>
>
>

Re: My PowerMail adventure with HTML

[Don V. Zahniser]

Here's the workaround that I have come up with when I have received HTML
mail that I either want to keep, or that I want to reply to:

First, I am using Powermail 4.2.1 in Mac OS 9.0.4, and have no current
plans to migrate to OS X.

I have WannaBe set as my default browser. This is a lean, text-only
browser.  When I receive an HTML mail that I want to read, I click on the
globe icon. WannaBe launches and displays the message, without images
(but with image links).  It does display boldface, color and underline. 
However, choosing 'Save as...' from the file menu saves a plain text
file, without any formatting or HTML tags, other than '' tags
showing where pictures were in the original HTML.  If I append a .txt
extension to it,  and go to reopen it, thru the magic of Internet
preferences and the Open via Map extension from Joseph Wankerl, the text
opens in my preferred editor.  What's more, while within WannaBe, I can
highlight any text and drag-and-drop it into an outgoing PowerMail
message, where it appears as unformatted text, with no HTML tags :^)

WannaBe is freeware, and I understand that it works fine in Classic mode
in OS X.

Oh - WannaBe also includes a Go menu, from which the user can select from
a list of other common web browsers to open the file (or page) for the
full HTML experience.

If this sounds interesting or useful: <http://mindstory.com/wb2/>

Works for me...  

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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Powerbook 1400cs, 133MHz, 64Mb, Mac OS 9.0.4

On Friday, July 2, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rumored to have said:

>Usually, I do not care at all for HTML. I'd rather not have it. But,
>there are times when an important correspondent provides no other option.
>Periodically, but rarely, I receive HTML email that I would like to save;
>they would be more practical and appropriate as a PDF document, but
>instead are sent as HTML.

Re: Filtering Question

[Don V. Zahniser]

Thanks for the reply - I don't have the option of using the public beta
at this time.  The newest Mac that I own is my PB1400 :^)

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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Powerbook 1400cs, 133MHz, 64Mb, Mac OS 9.1

On Friday, May 21, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rumored to have said:

>On Thu, 20 May 2004 17:29:04 -0400, Don V. Zahniser wrote:
>
>>So - how do I 'find' messages that contain stuff that I want to use in
>>filtering when they are in the HTML portion of the message?  Or am I stuck?
>
>I think you are. Mb PowerMail fixes that, try the public beta ;)

Filtering Question

[Don V. Zahniser]

I am using PowerMail 4.2.1, and I am trying to filter out some messages.
 I can see the words that I want to use for filtering in the body of the
message, and have tried the various options available under 'Body' in the
filters.  However, I can't get the messages to be selected.  Neither can
I find those messages using the search function - again - I can see the
words in the message body.

I _think_ the problem is that the word or words in question are contained
in an HTML portion of the message.  I normally have the HTML viewer
turned off.

So - how do I 'find' messages that contain stuff that I want to use in
filtering when they are in the HTML portion of the message?  Or am I stuck?

Thanks!

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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: How to filter executable attachments (.exe, .scr, .inf, .pif etc.)?

[Don V. Zahniser]

Thanks for the help, everyone!

I'm still working on the final touches, but thanks to Jerome, Wayne, Olaf
and kename for scripts and advice.

 - Don

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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re(2): How to filter executable attachments (.exe, .scr, .inf, .pif etc.)?

[Don V. Zahniser]

I am using PM 4.2.1 on Mac OS 9.0.4.  I have tried downloading this
script several times with 3 different browsers.  When I unstuff the file
(Stuffit Expander 5.5 or 7.0.3) and try to open it, I get errors.  With
Script Editor, I get a 'disk error'.  When I use Smile, I get an error -
39.  Other scripts that I download from this site open without problems.

Now - What I really want to do is to move messages (not just the
attachments) having attachments with specific suffixes to a folder (e.g.
- Mail Trash or one named 'Spam').

I, too have worked in several programming languages (BASIC, FORTH, and
several scripting languages), but have not found myself compatible with
AppleScript, so any assistance would be welcome.

Thanks!

On Thursday, April 29, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rumored to
have said:

>>The new version of PM (v5, currently available as a beta) lets you do
>>this straight from the filter setup box. Under PM 4.x, however, the best
>>way is to use the apple script "Remove Listed Attachments", which you can
>>download from the PM Applescript archive on Wayne Brissette's invaluable
>site.
>>

Wishlist Items

[Don V. Zahniser]

Here are a few of my wishlist items - I am using Mac OS 9...

1) A preference to select the web browser to be used to view HTML, rather
than using the default browser specified in the Internet settings.  This
is driven by my wish to open HTML messages without viewing images. 
WannaBe works great for this, as would another browser configured to not
view images.  

2) When in the Mail Browser, when I click on a folder in the folder list,
have the pane of the list of the messages in the selected folder become
'active', and/or... 

3) When in the Mail Browser, when I click on the scroll bar(s) of the
folder contents pane, have the folder contents pane become 'active'. 
Same with selecting the scroll bars of a message preview pane in 3-pane
view?  

4) When editing filters, allow filter conditional items in the middle of
the list to be deleted.  I have only been able to delete filter items at
the end of the list.

5) When working in any of the items selected from the Setup menu, have
those open windows appear in the Window menu. 

6) Have an indicator for the Out Tray when there is a draft message in
it.  Maybe a different icon?

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Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Powerbook 1400cs, 133MHz, 64Mb, Mac OS 9.0.4

Re: powermail-discuss Digest Fixing

[Don V. Zahniser]

Ira - 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Jerome responded to my note off-list.  He suggested an alternate that is
less prone to accidentally displaying the message list.  If you go to the
Window menu, there is a "Folder List" selection that displays only the
folders. From that, I was able to successfully trash the folder.

Jerome also mentioned that the settings database (Setup database?) can be
copied to a new user environment, preserving the filters and all.  I
haven't tried that yet.

Thanks for the reply,

Don

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 Don V. Zahniser
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Sunday, March 21, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rumored to have said:

>If you don't need anything in the bad folder, why not trash that folder.
> Click on it but don't release, drag it to PM trash and then empty the
>Mail trash?  Afterwards import the mail from the new environment that you
>created.

Don't do this at home, kids!

[Don V. Zahniser]

Yesterday evening, I made a mistake when trying to delete some messages:

I selected my 'Suspect' folder, then clicked in the folder list window,
and then hit Command-A.  Something I had done dozens of times before.
 Only problem was, this time when I clicked in the folder list window, I
clicked in the status column.  When I hit Command-A, the message whose
status was displayed in the popup menu disappeared, and my computer froze
(I'm using Mac OS 8.6).  I had to force restart.  In subsequent attempts
to display the folder, the message list starts to display, but when the
'bad' message would have appeared, my computer freezes again.

I have tried all of the Command-Option startup choices, and all of the
choices in the File/Database menu selections, to no avail.  To keep using
PowerMail (without locking up my computer by accidentally choosing the
'bad' folder), I have exported both my addresses and mail database
(excepting the 'bad' folder) and imported them into a new user environment.

I suppose that I could just go on from here, but I have lost my mail
filters, text clippings, and mail schedulings.  I would rather not have
to reconstruct my filters, if possible.  My questions:

1) Any suggestions for 'fixing' my original user environment? I don't
need any of the messages in the 'bad' folder.

2) Failing #1, is there any way to move filter settings between user
environments?

I did put a message in to PowerMail support, but it hasn't even been 24
hours yet, and thought I would put it to the list.

Thanks in advance, 

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 Don V. Zahniser
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: strange text formatting

[Don V. Zahniser]

Max -

If you mean the little rectangles, it seems to me that those are linefeed
(LF) characters.

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 Don V. Zahniser
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Friday, March 12, 2004, Max Gossell said:

>Hi,
>
>At times I get mails that look as below. The message is a reply to an
>earlier mail from me, and my message started with the line "(Por favor --
>remita este email a un administrador que hable inglés.)".
>
>What is this? Can something be done to:
>
>a) avoid getting the text formatted this way?
>b) making it more readable?
>
>Max Gossell
>
>(Btw - the message concerns my first "snailmail spam". I actually got a
>letter from Spain, telling me how rich I would soon become...)
>
>-
>
>
Good Afternoon:
this  to  inform you that we have nothing to do with
>this kind of business.
We  only  work  with  insurances  for  homes,
>life, business, demises, etc.
Someone has been using our name to gest
>ea

Re: Can't see pasted documents

[Don V. Zahniser]

Thanks!

I appreciate seeing how a similar task is implemented in several
different programs.  The Smile script works great for me!

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 Don V. Zahniser
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Friday, March 12, 2004, cheshirekat said:

>Hope this helps. I like having the same script work with different
>applications (if possible) when I'm away from a power source. My 15"
>G4 867 PowerBook battery drains quickly if I open too many apps as I tend
>to do when home and connected to power. (I won't confess to how many
>applications were open earlier today when I was in the other room
>creating a new FileMaker Pro database for the hubby. I was too lazy to
>grab the AC adapter but still had 30% power after 3 hours when the new
>database was finished.) Having scripts that can utilize an already open
>application really helps.
>
>-- 
>Sometimes even to live is an act of courage.
>- Lucius Annaeus Seneca, writer and philosopher
>
>* 867 PowerBook G4 * OS X 10.2.6 * 768 MB Ram *
>
>
>

Re: Can't see pasted documents

[Don V. Zahniser]

Andy - 

It probably would have helped if I had included my usual text clipping
about my system.  Those of us who are still using PowerMail with Mac OS 9
or earlier don't have TextEdit. I suggested AppleWorks since it would
benefit many of us late-bloomers.  True, it would be overkill, but I
would guess that AppleWorks has pretty good representation within the
Classic OS user community.  

I'm currently trying to figure out how to adapt your scripts to work in
iText (a freeware text editor with AppleScript support).  Maybe with some
quality time over the weekend, I can get my brain to function better.

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     Don V. Zahniser
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Composed on Powerbook 1400cs, 117MHz, 64MB RAM, Mac OS 8.6

On Friday, March 12, 2004, Andy Fragen said:

>Maybe, but why? If you don't have BBEdit just use the script for
>TextEdit. Fundamentally I wouldn't write this script for Word either,
>it's overkill. Why use AppleWorks when TextEdit is all you really need?

Re: Can't see pasted documents

[Don V. Zahniser]

Any chance of adapting this to use AppleWorks?

I've poked around but the combination of my Applescript illiteracy with
the variability of the Applescript dictionary between applications is
beyond me at the moment...

TIA

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     Don V. Zahniser
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Monday, March 8, 2004, Andy Fragen said:

>Ask and you shall receive.
>
>
>tell application "PowerMail"
>   set theMessages to current messages
>   repeat with msg in theMessages
>   set s to source of msg
>   tell application "BBEdit"
>   make new window
>   set contents of front window to s
>   end tell
>   end repeat
>end tell
>
>
>
>tell application "PowerMail"
>   set theMessages to current messages
>   repeat with msg in theMessages
>   set s to source of msg
>   tell application "TextEdit"
>   make new document at the beginning of documents with 
> properties {text:s}
>   end tell
>   end repeat
>end tell
>

Filter/Scripting Help?

[Don V. Zahniser]

Folks,

I am trying to set up some filters to trap spam.  I have a couple of issues:

1) How do I get messages to NOT appear in the recent mail window without
putting them in the trash?  I have tried ending my filters with 'Don't
notify', but the messages still appear in the recent mail.

2) Much of the spam that I receive has multiple addressees at my ISP.  I
have been successful at filtering those messages that:

a) have my ISP (eznet.net) appearing in the To: field, but my email
address is in neither the To: nor the CC: fields, or

b) have my ISP appearing in either the To: or CC: field, with my email
address appearing in the other field.

What I haven't been able to figure out is how to filter a message if the
To: field contains more than one email address on my ISP, including my
own. These typically contain no CC: field.

Any suggestions?
 
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 Don V. Zahniser
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Composed on Powerbook 1400cs, 117MHz, 64MB RAM, Mac OS 8.6

Re: Attachments are hidden...

[Don V. Zahniser]

If you are looking for the icon for an attachment at the bottom of the
preview pane, there is a setting under Display that controls whether the
icon is visible.  At least in the Classic OS, the setting doesn't 'take'
until I toggle to another view mode and back.

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 Don V. Zahniser
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Composed on Powerbook 1400cs, 117MHz, 64MB RAM, Mac OS 8.6

>Nope -- still in the PowerMail Files folder, in my Home:Mail folder where
>it has always been...  Anything else I should check?
>
>Thanks,
>z
>
>On 2/20/2004 at 11:49 PM, PowerMail Engineering wrote:
>
>>Do you have moved or renamed the attachments, or changed the attachment
>>folder from the preferences?
>
>
>

Re: Non-sends.....

[Don V. Zahniser]

Sorry for the delay in responding - my phone line was out of order :^(
 The phone company was having difficulty finding a viable line to switch
us over to.

I have run into a similar situation when I am sending messages and I get
disconnected (phone line, again) during the session.  PM seems to lose
track of the fact that it has mail to send.  In my case, the out box was
till boldfaced, so that I knew that there was a problem.  Even though the
messages were still marked as 'waiting', I had to change the status of
each message to 'draft' and back to 'waiting' before they would be sent.

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 Don V. Zahniser
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Composed on Powerbook 1400cs, 117MHz, 64MB RAM, Mac OS 8.6

>I find that occasionally an email is not sent but remains instead in the
>Out Tray--it may be days before I learn this. I'm always surprised to
>find this happening--it never happened in PM 3+ or OS 9+.
>
>Has anyone any idea as to why this would happen, or what to do to avoid this?
>
>Using PM 4.2.1 on OS X 10.3.2, DSL
>
>-- 
>Judy
>
>I would have sent this to Jerome, but I'm developing an amazing file of
>non-answers  :-
>
>
>

Re: key commands for windows not working

[Don V. Zahniser]

Gunnar - 

Are you using any 3rd party utilities that affect menus or keystrokes?
 If so, try disabling it and see if the problem disappears.  

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 Don V. Zahniser
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>The only key command combo for windows that works for me is for the
>address book.  All the others I get nothing nada no way.  I'm using 4.2.1
>in system 9.2.2  Is this a known issue for others, or am I in my very own
>leaky rowboat here?

Re: "Cleaning Address History"

[Don V. Zahniser]

Karel - 

Thanks for the explanation! 

...and yes, it appears that the sleeping problem was related to
RamDoubler.  I'm using VM right now, and sleeping seems to work fine with
indexing on while in PowerMail.  I was originally using RamDoubler to
save disk space, but I have upgraded the 750Mb drive originally in my
Powerbook to 20Gb.  

Thanks for the suggestion.  

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Sep 25, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The 'auto complete' function when you type an address from the address-
> book will also work with the recipients and senders of the messages you
> have sent or received in last few days. You can toggle this function in
> the preferences. Go to Menu  Powermail -> Preferences... -> Address Book. 
> You can also specify the # of days that Powermail will remember these
> addresses.
> Powermail will periodical delete the older addresses it has internally
> stored, hence your dialog box.
> 
> >I do not have indexing turned on while using PowerMail. My Powerbook
> >won't go to sleep if I have PowerMail running with indexing turned on.
> >
> >Powerbook 1400cs/117, Mac OS 8.6, 64MB RAM, RamDoubler 9
> 
> Is this still so with the newest version of PM? O, wait I see you're on
> OS 8.6 and using RamDoubler. Probably causing this problem. My
> powerbook(s) are sleeping fine with PM, both under OS 9 and OS X

"Cleaning Address History"

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, All - 

Lately, about half the time that I launch PowerMail, I get a progress
dialog that says "Cleaning Address History".  Can any one explain what
this is doing, and why?

I do not have indexing turned on while using PowerMail. My Powerbook
won't go to sleep if I have PowerMail running with indexing turned on.

I get about 100 messages a day, about 80% of which are spam.  My filters
work quite well to sort these for my purposes.  I have a couple of
filters that trash mail from lists of spam domains, a couple of filters
for keeping things that I have subscribed to, and a 'not in the address
book' filter to trap things for my inspection.

I currently am sending out only one or two messages a day.  I am checking
my mail about 3 times a day.

Powerbook 1400cs/117, Mac OS 8.6, 64MB RAM, RamDoubler 9
-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

PowerMail Wish List

[Don V. Zahniser]

A couple of things I would like to see fixed or tweaked in PowerMail:

1) Have the schedule setting to "force PPP disconnect after done" work in
Mac OS 9.1.  Currently, it works great in Mac OS 8.6, but doesn't work
for me in 9.1.  In the latter, using the Process CSM, I can see Network
Setup Scripting start up and appear to quit, at which point PowerMail is
totally unresponsive.  Network Setup Scripting again starts up, and sits
there, apparently doing nothing.  I usually end up forcing Network Setup
Scripting to quit, with PPP never being forced to disconnect (at least
within any reasonable time).

2) Have a setting to choose which browser is used to view HTML.  I would
rather not use my default browser (iCab) to do this.  In Claris Emailer,
I could diddle my Internet settings so that HTML mail that Emailer saved
as attachments were opened in WannaBe.  This allowed me to view the
content of HTML messages without embedded images. 

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No sleep with indexing

[Don V. Zahniser]

Anybody else having problems with their computer not going to sleep while
indexing is turned on?

Powerbook 1400cs/117, Mac OS 8.6, 64MB RAM, RamDoubler 9, PM 4.2

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: searching/filtering does not work in HTML mails

[Don V. Zahniser]

I have been trying (on-and-off) to come up with a filter to detect HTML
mail, also with no success.  One of the difficulties that I have run into
is that PowerMail (in searches, at least) seems to ignore any characters
that are not actually alphabet or numbers.  For example:  If I try to do
a search to detect the  tag, the PowerMail search function shows
messages with "html", not messages with "" in the body.  I _think_
this is also happening in the filters.  Another example:  In Gregor's
note, there are numerous examples of the characters "--".  However, if I
search for "--" (with or without quotes), I _immediately_ get no hits,
whereas a search for "html" finds many notes.  It's as if the "--" is
interpreted as null input, and the search automatically returns no hits
for a null input search.  

Or am I missing something on being able to search/filter on these kinds
of characters?

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Sun, Sep 7, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> 4.2 final does not filter nor search any content (my favorite new
> feature) of those typical HTML spam mails :
> 
> 
> Why Spend M >ore Than You
> Have To?
> 
> 
> Why not? How should I filter those html mails? Wouldn't it be a nice
> feature anyway to make a filter with "any mail which contains html"?
> 
> 
> Gregor

4.2b8 - More Feedback

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, All...

Print One now functions correctly - I actually get output to my printer,
which didn't happen before.

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Slow drawing of message lists

[Don V. Zahniser]

Just for comparison - 

In Mac OS 8.6 I can see a very slight difference using fonts that have
bitmaps for the size I have chosen (faster), compared to fonts that are
only available in TrueType (slower).  I might be able to convince myself
that a font that has a bold bitmap seems slightly faster than one that
doesn't.

For example:

Geneva 10 (TrueType and Bitmap) and Espy Sans 10 (bitmap only) seem to
refresh at about the same rate, but faster than Arial 10 (which is
TrueType only).  My Espy Sans font has Espy Sans Bold 10, however, and
that _might_ be refreshing a tiny bit faster than Geneva 10 for Boldfacing.

All in all - it doesn't seem that significant to me - and I am using a
pretty slow computer.  

Powerbook 1400cs/117, Mac OS 8.6, 64MB RAM, RamDoubler 9

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Sun, Aug 31, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Some fonts are very slow to draw in bold on Mac OS X, especially Geneva.
> Try Lucida, Helvetica or Verdana instead.

Re: [ANN] PowerMail 4.2b8/fin. candidate 4 now available

[Don V. Zahniser]

So far, I can confirm the following:

1) The problem I had with inability to log into my POP server has been fixed;

2) The problem with crashing when selecting a searched message has been fixed;

3) When the empty Mail Trash on quit preference is set, the problems with
the folder name remaining boldface when empty, and the message count
inaccuracy seem to have been fixed.  It appears to me that the unread
message count now only appears when there are unread messages in a
folder.  Previously, I seem to recall having seen an unread message count
when there were no unread messages in a folder.

4) I had tried to make a couple of very quick, rudimentary attempts to
filter message content in earlier versions of 4.2b, but without success.
 I may have made errors in the attempt.  However, I am now able to filter
messages by content.  

No problems so far...

Powerbook 1400cs/117, Mac OS 8.6, 64MB RAM, RamDoubler 9

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Can't check mail with 4.2b6

[Don V. Zahniser]

I have the exact same problem (same error message from my POP server)
running PM 4.2b6 under Mac OS 8.6.  I reported it to PowerMail support
last night - unless there is a problem with SMTP as well that doesn't
produce an error message. 

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am currently running PM 4.2b1 without a problem. I just tried 4.2b6,
> when I check mail I get this error: 
> 
> Unexpected error on "mail.momathome.com" Class = 'NetC', what = 9, when =
> 6, err=268435559
> 
> I tried rebuilding the database, including a low level rebuild and the
> error is still there. No problem going back to b1.
> 
> Mac OS X 10.2.6, G4/450, 1 GB RAM
> 
> -- 
> Judi Sohn . Mom at Home Design
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] . AIM/iChat: JudiS217
> http://www.momathome.com
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Negative Unread Message Count in Powermail 4.2b

[Don V. Zahniser]

I just Quit PowerMail and restarted.  I had a bunch of messages, some
read, some unread, in the Mail Trash on quit.  When I restarted, the Mail
Trash folder was boldfaced.  With the Mail Trash folder selected in
3-pane view, the folder contents pane was blank, but the window indicated
'23 messages, 17 unread'.  So it appears that, at least when using the
Empty Mail Trash on Quit option, the message count in the Mail Trash is
not being properly refreshed on my system.

Again, manually selecting Special/Empty Mail Trash from the menu bar
immediately changes the message count to zero, and the title of the
folder reverts to plain text.

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Sat, Aug 23, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have preferences set up to empty the mail trash on quit.  I noticed a
> few days ago that the Mail Trash folder was boldfaced (indicating unread
> messages) even when I just started PowerMail, presumably indicating that
> there were unread messages in the folder when it should have been empty.
>  Yesterday morning, I also noticed that there were '0 messages, -1
> unread' in my Mail Trash.  I restarted PowerMail with Command-Option
> pressed, and tried the top couple of options, reserving the low-level
> rebuild until later.  That 'fixed' the counting problem, so that my Mail
> Trash showed '0 messages, 0 unread', but the title of the folder was
> still boldfaced.  When I chose Special/Empty Mail Trash, the title of the
> Mail Trash folder reverted to normal text.

Negative Unread Message Count in Powermail 4.2b

[Don V. Zahniser]

I also have run into the symptom of a negative unread message count.  In
my case, it was in the Mail Trash.

I have preferences set up to empty the mail trash on quit.  I noticed a
few days ago that the Mail Trash folder was boldfaced (indicating unread
messages) even when I just started PowerMail, presumably indicating that
there were unread messages in the folder when it should have been empty.
 Yesterday morning, I also noticed that there were '0 messages, -1
unread' in my Mail Trash.  I restarted PowerMail with Command-Option
pressed, and tried the top couple of options, reserving the low-level
rebuild until later.  That 'fixed' the counting problem, so that my Mail
Trash showed '0 messages, 0 unread', but the title of the folder was
still boldfaced.  When I chose Special/Empty Mail Trash, the title of the
Mail Trash folder reverted to normal text.

Powerbook 1400cs/117, Mac OS 8.61, 64MB RAM, VM on

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Printing Problem resolved?

[Don V. Zahniser]

I seem to have somehow gotten rid of the printing problem that I had with
PowerMail in both MacOS 9.1 and 8.6.  The symptoms were that data got
sent to the printer/modem port upon launch of PowerMail, and data kept
getting sent to the printer while PowerMail was open.  Attempts to print
brought an error message that the port was busy, and to quit the
appliation that was using the port.  This occurred even when PowerMail
was the only open application, and also when I had _no_ third-party
extensions, control strips or control panels installed.  

Tonight, I decided on a whim to set up a MacOS 8.6 extension set using
Action GoMac, and disabled the Control Strip, since GoMac handles control
strip modules.  To my surprise, I now can print when PowerMail is
running, and I get no extraneous data sent to the printer/modem port!

Now, _If_ this was the only change I made, and I have to follow up to
check, that would imply to me that one of Apple's control strips was
causing the problem, since I was using Extensions Strip in MacOS 9.1 and
Apple's Control Strip in MacOS 8.6. 

More later if I can pin this down any more.

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Print One

[Don V. Zahniser]

I also am seeing this in MacOS 8.6.  'Print One' (selected either from
the toolbar or the File menu) going to my Epson Stylus Color 740 puts up
a 'Processing...' window, but there is no output.  It's like no data has
been sent.  There is no response by the printer.  Choosing File/Print
works as expected.

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Aug 21, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Greets again -
> 
> Under OSX, the Print One button does just that -- prints a single copy of
> a selected email, as one would expect.  None of my OS9 users are able to
> get this to work, however.  I thought, when I first learned about it,
> that the single user's system was the culprit, but wasn't able to get it
> to work.  I've now discovered that this seems to be the case on all of
> our OS9 installations.  Is this a known bug, or...?  Running 4.12, and
> this has shown up under OS 9.04 and 9.21.
> 
> Thanks much,
> z
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Default browser preference

[Don V. Zahniser]

Try looking in your Internet control panel under the 'Advanced' tab.  If
you don't see an 'Advanced' tab, go to Edit/User Mode, and choose
'Advanced'.  This should make the 'Advanced' tab show up.  Click on the
icon for 'Helper Apps', and see if the list shows Internet Explorer for
any of the URL types that you are having problems with.   You can either
click on the item and 'Remove' it, or change it to another application.  

I haven't seen this problem.  Then again - I don't have IE on my hard drive...

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Aug 21, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Greets -
> 
> Have tried changing the default browser pref in the Internet control
> panel under OS 9.04 on a G4 Cube, with no success.  I have tried to
> select Netscape from the pulldown menu, as well as browsing through the
> file dialog and selecting it from its folder.  When that failed, I
> trashed the internet pref file and tried again -- still no luck.  The
> user double-clicks a url in PowerMail, and IE opens up, regardless of
> what is set in the control panel.  Any ideas?

Stuffit Compression

[Don V. Zahniser]

Hi, Everyone - 

I was busy being perplexed why, when I have Stuffit Deluxe 7.03
installed, PowerMail showed both the preference for Stuffing attachments
and the option for Stuffing an attachment in a note dimmed out.  It turns
out that the explanation and work-around are quite simple:

PowerMail is looking for the 'Stuffit Engine' extension, which in Stuffit
Deluxe 7.03 is named 'StuffitEngineShell'.

I made a copy of 'StuffitEngineShell', renamed the copy to 'Stuffit
Engine', and PowerMail is now Stuffit-enabled.

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

PowerMail 4.2b1 in Mac OS 8.6

[Don V. Zahniser]

Curious!  I have two boot partitions on my Powerbook 1400, one for MacOS
8.6, and one for 9.1.  PowerMail 4.2b1 runs fine for me in MacOS 9.1, and
PowerMail 4.1.3 runs fine in both 9.1 and 8.6, but I haven't yet been
able to get PowerMail 4.2b1 to fully launch in MacOS 8.6.  Whenever I
try, the menu bar appears, and then a message appears that PowerMail has
quit with a Type 3 error.  I would like to see if I can get PowerMail
4.2b1 to run in 8.6, because things are notably speedier compared to 9.1
on my PB 1400.

I have tried deleting PowerMail prefs.  PowerMail 4.2b1 has created a
folder in my Documents folder to contain the data files, but can't seem
to 'get going'.  It quits before the toolbar appears.

Any suggestions?

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Window Management

[Don V. Zahniser]

When some windows are opened, such as Search Messages, Mail Filters, Text
Clippings, or Text Signatures, one can easily click on another window
such as the browser or a message window, and the window in question quite
naturally is moved 'back' and hidden.  The windows that I mentioned
above, however, (and possibly others) do not appear in the Window menu. 
I have to either re-select the menu item that opened the window, or
windowshade or change the size or close other windows to get back to
these (usually smaller) windows.  It would be nice (and more consistent)
to have all open windows within PowerMail appear in the Windows menu.

Powerbook 1400cs/117, Mac OS 9.1, 64MB RAM, VM on, PowerMail 4.2b1

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: search-bug?

[Don V. Zahniser]

I see the same behavior. 

Powerbook 1400cs/117, Mac OS 9.1, 64MB RAM, VM on

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, Aug 13, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I'm in threepane-view and click somewhere in the left pane but not on a
>folder-name. The two right panes are/become empty. If I perform a search
>now (in all local mailfolders) I get "No item found". If I click on a
>folder name and do the same search I get plenty of find messages. 

Re: PowerMail 4.2 - Find function

[Don V. Zahniser]

Thanks! I somehow missed or forgot the click-and-hold option on the find
button.

And yes - The new find function is great - and FAST!

The new faster indexing is really a help, too.  On my less than speedy
PB1400, I had background indexing turned off in 4.1.3.  No need for that
in 4.2.

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Sun, Aug 10, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hold the button down a bit longer and it will give you the choices you
>want. A quick test last night showed that this new search works
>beautifully and even highlights what you're looking for in the messages
>it finds.

PowerMail 4.2 - Find function

[Don V. Zahniser]

Since I am a relatively new PowerMail user, maybe someone could confirm this:

I _think_ I remember using the toolbar 'Find...' button in 4.1.3 to
search all messages...

I installed PowerMail 4.2, and went to do a 'Find...' by clicking the
toolbar icon. No matter what I do or how I select messages or folders in
the browser when clicking the 'Find...' button, I only see a dialog box
to search in the current message, and it only shows a single text field.
 Command-F brings up the search dialog allowing searching in all
messages, with all the options.

If my memory is correct, then there is a change in the function of the
'Find...' toolbar button with 4.2.  I would much rather this default to
'Find in all messages'.

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Printing Problems

[Don V. Zahniser]

Here is a printing issue that I have had in 4.1.2, 4.1.3, and now in the
4.2 beta.  I reported it to PowerMail support back in 4.1.2.

I am using a Powerbook 1400 running Mac OS 9.1, with my modem in a PCMCIA
slot, and an Epson Stylus 740 printer hooked up to the combined Printer/
Modem port.  When I launch PowerMail, 'garbage' data gets sent to my
printer.  Sometimes, the printer just indicates that it has received data
by showing an error light blinking.  At other times, it feeds a sheet of
paper and starts to print seemingly random characters.  I am not sure,
but it also appears that PowerMail sometimes continues to send data to
the printer/modem port while I am using it.

If I try to print an email message, most of the time I can't - I get a
message that the printer port is in use, even though PowerMail is the
only application running, or I get a message that the printer is not
responding. I get the former if I have managed to clear the printer by
manually feeding paper and then ejecting it (at which point it prints
some garbage).  I get the latter if I have not managed to clear the
error.  Note that in PowerMail 4.2 I have been unable to clear the errors
at all.  It appears to be continuously sending some sort of data to the
printer  

My workaround at the moment is to (try to remember to) keep my printer
turned off until I need to print from any application.  When using
PowerMail, I save the message to be printed as a text file and print it
from another application after quitting PowerMail.  I also can't print
from any other application while PowerMail is running.

Anybody else experience anything like this?  Any suggestions?

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re(2): Evaluating Powermail: 3 Questions

[Don V. Zahniser]

When running under 8.6, does the HTML viewer even work?  I have my
Powerbook 1400 set up with two boot partitions, one for 8.6 and one for
9.1.  I _think_ I recall that when I first tried Powermail under 8.6, the
HTML viewer wouldn't work (or maybe it didn't work right).  I copied the
HTMLRenderingLib from my 9.1 partition, and everything worked fine from there.

For running Powermail without automatically viewing HTML content, here
are some relevant settings:

Under Edit/Preferences/HTML reader, you can check 'Enable HTML reader',
but leave the choices for 'Prefer HTML when plain text is available' and
'Download external pictures if connected' _un_checked.  This will allow
you to see the message content if a sender of HTML messages is kind
enough to include plain text (without rendering the HTML), and will also
not load images on HTML messages, which is one way to suppress a possible
security risk.

BTW - If you are using iCab as your default browser, and want to view
HTML messages from Powermail, make sure that the iCab preferences are set
to have iCab deal with the FILE protocol.  Otherwise, iCab will open to a
blank window. 

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Fri, Aug 8, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I'm running OS 8.6 on a Power Computing Clone.
>

Re(2): Evaluating Powermail: 3 Questions

[Don V. Zahniser]

I am using Mac OS 9.1 - 

In this reply (which I used for testing):

When I first start a reply, and have the preference for default location
of the signature set to 'Before quoted text', that's where my default
signature goes.

If, while in the body of my reply, I choose a different signature, it
replaces the default signature.

If I put the cursor into the quoted text, and choose a different
signature, it again replaces the previous signature at its original location.

If I choose 'No text signature', my previous signature is erased.

After choosing 'No text signature', any signature that I chose went to
the _bottom_ of the note.  

At _no_ time can I change the location of the signature to any place
other than just above the quoted text or just after the quoted text.

I _am_ able to create a text clipping with a copy of one of my signatures
and insert it at any place in the note:

-- 
Don V. Zahniser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Like that!

On Fri, Aug 8, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>here it works correctly. if I have insertion point set to be before
>quoted messages, my signature shows also before the quoted text.
>
>also, if I move the cursor in a message some lines up or down and then
>select a signature from the popup at the bottom of the window, the
>signature shows up exactly where my cursor was.
>
>---marlyse
>
>are you evaluating the latest version of PM?
>
>-former message(s) quotes:-
>>>> 2) No matter how I set preferences or use the insertion point,
>>>> signatures appear at the END of the e-mail, even if I happen to be
>>>> typing at the top, before quoted text. Is there a way to change
>>>> this?
>
>
>
>