Re: Message priority
Tim Hodgson: >Sorry - that was rather a terse reply! The filter runs an Applescript if >'To' contains 'powermail-discuss'. The script is: Brilliant! I've wanted functionality like that for ages. It's great just to be able to do it, but it would be a lot easier if "Apply Signature" was in the drop down list in the filter section. Thanks again for this excellent work around though :) -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art
Re: Message priority
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 12:27 am +0100, Simon Troup wrote: >>>As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my >>>home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use >>>a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. >>> As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. >> >>Neither did I, so I now have a filter which adds the sig below to every >>post to this list. > >I can't see how to do that without creating multiple versions of the >same account each with different signatures, or is there a more direct method? Sorry - that was rather a terse reply! The filter runs an Applescript if 'To' contains 'powermail-discuss'. The script is: tell application "PowerMail" set MySig to the signature of text signature "PM list" set MyMessages to current messages repeat with i from 1 to count of MyMessages set MyNewMessage to item i of MyMessages set mycontents to content of MyNewMessage set mynewContents to mycontents & return & MySig set content of MyNewMessage to mynewContents end repeat end tell (and the sig in this case is called 'PM list') I didn't write this script, and should apologise to whoever did for not giving them credit; pretty sure it was someone here. (Wayne?) I normally make a note of it in the script. -- TimH PowerMail 5.2.3 | OS X 10.4.7 | PowerBook FW/500 | 640MB RAM
Re: Message priority
>>As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my >>home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use >>a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. >> As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. > >Neither did I, so I now have a filter which adds the sig below to every >post to this list. I can't see how to do that without creating multiple versions of the same account each with different signatures, or is there a more direct method? -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art
Re(2): Message priority
Signatures specifically assigned to an account I use often, for example I only add my name and no quotations, addresses, phone numbers etc. when I respond to a list - yes, I like it clean and simple and after seeing somebody's 15 line long information footer it gets boring for me to glance over it, especially if I am subscribed in digest mode to a list... and don't even get me started on people who don't clean up their email and lazily or ignorantly quote the quoted quoted quoted text with just a "yes" and a 15 line address footer ;-) Since about a year I have found that filters on outgoing messages are very useful. For example : I have a specific account which I use for very specific communication and that is my only account which is set to request a "return receipt" and so to track responses of their server if the recipient has read or not read a message I've sent. Even though this works only in maybe 50 - 70 percent of the cases (it's the exact same issue as with PRIORITY, there is no standard to use this but some servers do react to such headers) I can track for the most if a message of mine gets received, read (haha, sometimes it takes 3 or more days until my recipient opens the email!) or not - and now I know if it's a simple excuse or not if somebody tells me "sorry I've never received your email, please send again" when I KNOW that the reader opened it because I've received a return receipt. As I often forgot to select the correct account before sending off the email, I've set up a filter on outgoing messages which contains a list of email addresses which will automatically trigger the email to be set to that specific account and return-email address including signature and specific header addition. The only reason I implemented the receipt header myself was because I had some single persons constantly telling me they didn't receive my email and I just didn't believe it any longer as they swore that my name/ address is in their address book. In general though, on a personal level, I feel it's somewhat invasive of another's sphere to tell that other person how important my message is or is not (with priority headers) or to request a receipt from him / his server if he read the email or not. Basically I believe it should be the person receiving the communication to choose how important she/he wants to flag the message and to respond in due time. But, neither here or there, I think it cool that CTM consistently sticks to STANDARDS and not just does something "because other's do it too", next to allowing the user to modify the headers themselves if they want to do so. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - >>Does this mean I can associate a particular signature with a given >>recipient in the "To:" field? (assuming only one "To:" recipient) > >Indeed you can. > >>As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my >>home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use >>a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. >> As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. > >Neither did I, so I now have a filter which adds the sig below to every >post to this list. >-- >TimH
Re: Message priority
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 9:58 pm -0400, Tim Lapin (sympatico) wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >On 9/27/2006 3:53 PM, PowerMail Engineering wrote: >> >> Since some time (PowerMail 5.0 maybe), outgoing filters are applied >> before sending, so they can change the account, add a BCC recipient and >> other useful things. >> >Does this mean I can associate a particular signature with a given >recipient in the "To:" field? (assuming only one "To:" recipient) Indeed you can. >As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my >home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use >a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. > As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. Neither did I, so I now have a filter which adds the sig below to every post to this list. -- TimH PowerMail 5.2.3 | OS X 10.4.7 | PowerBook FW/500 | 640MB RAM
Re: Message priority
Tim Lapin wrote: >Does this mean I can associate a particular signature with a given >recipient in the "To:" field? (assuming only one "To:" recipient) Yes Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - "I'm using Powermail for years now. I tried every other Mail app available, including Mailsmith, Apple Mail, Entourage and Eudora. Although these apps aren't bad, no one has the functionality of Powermail that I need. Searching and filtering also is excellent. I LOVE IT (and because this is a program I use every ten minutes to fetch my mail I would have even paid more for the update...)" PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Message priority
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/27/2006 3:53 PM, PowerMail Engineering wrote: > Wayne Brissette wrote: > >> You would have to save it as a draft, then apply the script. The script >> would have to be responsible for sending the message, because you're >> absolutely correct, filters don't get run until after they are sent. > > Since some time (PowerMail 5.0 maybe), outgoing filters are applied > before sending, so they can change the account, add a BCC recipient and > other useful things. > > > Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering > Does this mean I can associate a particular signature with a given recipient in the "To:" field? (assuming only one "To:" recipient) As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFGuYSuprXnyzF8jkRAlLoAJ9WWEDgMWetrEIDkJz+tH9rIN4GNQCfQenQ MmEjyJJokvy6apXFS1mAH0E= =nxGh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Message priority
While I agree that notions of priority are never the same between sender and recipient, most software (and believe me, I've tried most if not all) on windows and mac has the option of setting message priority. Whether you use it is up to you, but it is there if you need it. Even mail.app has it now. All of them seem to create an X-Priority header. Some also create Priority and Importance headers. I've tried on Mac: GyazMail Mail.app Gnumail Thunderbird Eudora Mailsmith Entourage Mullberry On windows: Outlook and Outlook Express The Bat Barca PocoMail So, it seems that PowerMail should configure this option. Maybe next release :) Anyway, to keep customers happy, you should give them what they ask for (within reason) and let them figure if they want to use it or not. This should not be a very big addition, right? Thanks On 9/27/06 3:51 PM, "PowerMail Engineering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander Balakersky wrote: > >> Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the >> outgoing messages. > > Priorities is not something supported in PowerMail, because the sender's > notion of priority is rarely the same as the recipient's, and I'm not > sure there is really a standard for this. > However, you can insert a header (something like "x-priority: 1" for > high priority, or "x-priority: 5" for low priority) in the account > settings (advanced part of the Identity pane). So you can crate a pseudo > account, for which you only define the identity and sending tabs, then > use this account instead of the normal one for sending messages with > high priority. > > > Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering > > > - >"I've recently switched from Entourage X and I want to say that > PowerMail is really slick. Small, fast and versatile." > Andy Fragen, PowerMail user > > > Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com > - > > -- Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Message priority
>Since some time (PowerMail 5.0 maybe), outgoing filters are applied >before sending, so they can change the account, add a BCC recipient and >other useful things. Just goes to show you how I've let my scripting with PM languish. Thanks Jérôme! Wayne
Re: Message priority
Wayne Brissette wrote: >You would have to save it as a draft, then apply the script. The script >would have to be responsible for sending the message, because you're >absolutely correct, filters don't get run until after they are sent. Since some time (PowerMail 5.0 maybe), outgoing filters are applied before sending, so they can change the account, add a BCC recipient and other useful things. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - "PowerMail has just about every power-user feature I could wish for, and its interface makes an ex-Emailer user feel at home. But what really impressed me is the incredible speed of text searches: PowerMail can comb through my 23,000+ messages in literally a *fraction* of a second, on a lowly iBook. No other mail client I've tried even remotely comes close. Kudos for FoxTrot!" Marco Piovanelli, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Message priority
Alexander Balakersky wrote: >Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the >outgoing messages. Priorities is not something supported in PowerMail, because the sender's notion of priority is rarely the same as the recipient's, and I'm not sure there is really a standard for this. However, you can insert a header (something like "x-priority: 1" for high priority, or "x-priority: 5" for low priority) in the account settings (advanced part of the Identity pane). So you can crate a pseudo account, for which you only define the identity and sending tabs, then use this account instead of the normal one for sending messages with high priority. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - "I've recently switched from Entourage X and I want to say that PowerMail is really slick. Small, fast and versatile." Andy Fragen, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Message priority
You would have to save it as a draft, then apply the script. The script would have to be responsible for sending the message, because you're absolutely correct, filters don't get run until after they are sent. Wayne -Original Message- >From: Alexander Balakersky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sep 27, 2006 3:29 PM >To: PowerMail discussions >Subject: Re: Message priority > >Much appreciate it. >One question though, using a script like that with an "Outgoing Mail" >filters. Will that work, or will I still have to save to draft first then >apply a filter, then open and send? I thought that Outgoing Mail filters get >processed after mail is written and send button pressed, so headers should >be already built in the message, right? > >Thanks > > >On 9/27/06 12:42 PM, "Wayne Brissette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I can certainly whip something up like this, however there is a gotcha. All >> mail would first have to be saved as a draft because filters don't run until >> after an item is sent, so there isn't a way to perform a filter on the >> message >> and there wouldn't be the proper headers before it is saved as a draft to add >> the following headers: >> >> X-Priority: 1 >> Priority: Urgent >> Importance: high >> >> In your case this doesn't sound like a problem, but for others, it's possible >> this will have no affect on their messages if their client or mail server >> doesn't support these. >> >> I'll work on a script for you when I get a chance. >> >> Wayne >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: Alexander Balakersky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Sep 27, 2006 11:22 AM >>> To: PowerMail discussions >>> Subject: Message priority >>> >>> Hello everybody. >>> I am trying to stick with PM as I like it very much, unfortunately, I am >>> having an issue that will make me switch or loose my job :( >>> I have figured out how to mark messages with different color according to >>> their Priority settings (Using Filters on X-Priority, priority, importance >>> headers). >>> Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the >>> outgoing messages. If anybody can help I would greatly appreciate it. >>> I would imagine that the best way would be to have a script that checks all >>> outgoing messages for a set word/character in the Subject (for example word >>> [HIGH] in brackets all capital), removes that word from subject and sets >>> message header X-Priority to 2. If the word is [URGENT] then the header is >>> set to 1, and so forth. >>> If anybody has a script like that or is proficient enough in Apple script to >>> write one, please let me know. >>> Thank you >>> -- >>> Alexander Balakersky >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >-- >Alexander Balakersky >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >
Re: Message priority
Much appreciate it. One question though, using a script like that with an "Outgoing Mail" filters. Will that work, or will I still have to save to draft first then apply a filter, then open and send? I thought that Outgoing Mail filters get processed after mail is written and send button pressed, so headers should be already built in the message, right? Thanks On 9/27/06 12:42 PM, "Wayne Brissette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can certainly whip something up like this, however there is a gotcha. All > mail would first have to be saved as a draft because filters don't run until > after an item is sent, so there isn't a way to perform a filter on the message > and there wouldn't be the proper headers before it is saved as a draft to add > the following headers: > > X-Priority: 1 > Priority: Urgent > Importance: high > > In your case this doesn't sound like a problem, but for others, it's possible > this will have no affect on their messages if their client or mail server > doesn't support these. > > I'll work on a script for you when I get a chance. > > Wayne > > -Original Message- >> From: Alexander Balakersky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Sep 27, 2006 11:22 AM >> To: PowerMail discussions >> Subject: Message priority >> >> Hello everybody. >> I am trying to stick with PM as I like it very much, unfortunately, I am >> having an issue that will make me switch or loose my job :( >> I have figured out how to mark messages with different color according to >> their Priority settings (Using Filters on X-Priority, priority, importance >> headers). >> Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the >> outgoing messages. If anybody can help I would greatly appreciate it. >> I would imagine that the best way would be to have a script that checks all >> outgoing messages for a set word/character in the Subject (for example word >> [HIGH] in brackets all capital), removes that word from subject and sets >> message header X-Priority to 2. If the word is [URGENT] then the header is >> set to 1, and so forth. >> If anybody has a script like that or is proficient enough in Apple script to >> write one, please let me know. >> Thank you >> -- >> Alexander Balakersky >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Message priority
I can certainly whip something up like this, however there is a gotcha. All mail would first have to be saved as a draft because filters don't run until after an item is sent, so there isn't a way to perform a filter on the message and there wouldn't be the proper headers before it is saved as a draft to add the following headers: X-Priority: 1 Priority: Urgent Importance: high In your case this doesn't sound like a problem, but for others, it's possible this will have no affect on their messages if their client or mail server doesn't support these. I'll work on a script for you when I get a chance. Wayne -Original Message- >From: Alexander Balakersky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sep 27, 2006 11:22 AM >To: PowerMail discussions >Subject: Message priority > >Hello everybody. >I am trying to stick with PM as I like it very much, unfortunately, I am >having an issue that will make me switch or loose my job :( >I have figured out how to mark messages with different color according to >their Priority settings (Using Filters on X-Priority, priority, importance >headers). >Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the >outgoing messages. If anybody can help I would greatly appreciate it. >I would imagine that the best way would be to have a script that checks all >outgoing messages for a set word/character in the Subject (for example word >[HIGH] in brackets all capital), removes that word from subject and sets >message header X-Priority to 2. If the word is [URGENT] then the header is >set to 1, and so forth. >If anybody has a script like that or is proficient enough in Apple script to >write one, please let me know. >Thank you >-- >Alexander Balakersky >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >
Message priority
Hello everybody. I am trying to stick with PM as I like it very much, unfortunately, I am having an issue that will make me switch or loose my job :( I have figured out how to mark messages with different color according to their Priority settings (Using Filters on X-Priority, priority, importance headers). Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the outgoing messages. If anybody can help I would greatly appreciate it. I would imagine that the best way would be to have a script that checks all outgoing messages for a set word/character in the Subject (for example word [HIGH] in brackets all capital), removes that word from subject and sets message header X-Priority to 2. If the word is [URGENT] then the header is set to 1, and so forth. If anybody has a script like that or is proficient enough in Apple script to write one, please let me know. Thank you -- Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
