Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[Michael Madigan]

I think we should start a class-action suit against
these a-holes and their clients.

How much wasted time, wasted interview time, etc, when
they don't want you to get the job anyway?

These bastards should be sent to Gitmo and tortured.


--- MB Software Solutions
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> No f*ckin way.  Check out the frame at 1:56 that
> says what that freakin' 
> tool said!  OMG!  If this isn't the smoking gun
> TRUTH, what's it 
> gonna take?
> 
> And the frame 3:20 explains why they list
> qualifications that only Jesus 
> Christ himself could have just so they can summarily
> dismiss 
> applicants!!!  You know the ads I'm talking
> about---where they list 500 
> skills required across all facets of IT!  NFW 
> And then at 4:05 when 
> she says that they bring a senior mgmt person in to
> find a legal reason 
> to disqualify them.  OMG!!  AGAIN---UNF*CKING
> REAL 
> 
> This is definitely a BOOKMARKED link now.  I'm going
> to forward it to 
> everyone I know...and you should to to expose this
> corporate corruption 
> and fraud  FIGHT BACK AGAINST
> CORRUPTION/FRAUD
> 
> Better off to forward Lou Dobbs' article url:  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsp2V3ifZjM
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
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RE: [OT] Federal Withholding % for independents

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Another perfectly reasonable way to do it if you are incorporated or an LLC
is to pay yourself a salary and withhold taxes from that salary. Your salary
gets FICA withheld against it and the excess earnings are taxed as
dividends.

That's a very common way to do it. The salary can even come during the last
quarter of the year and extra withholding up to 100% of your salary can be
used to make up for estimated taxes that are too low if needed.

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RE: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Michael Madigan]

The same exact people who surrendered to Vietnam are
trying to have us surrender to Al Qaeda.

John Kerry
Ted Kennedy
Jane Fonda

The same old creeps.



--- Graham Dobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think there is also a moral obligation not to
> abandon Iraq.  A failed
> state in the heart of the middle east will be a
> breeding ground for
> terrorists to launch attacks around the world.
> 
> You commented earlier on the defeatist note of
> congressional hearings on the
> surge and I think you illustrate clearly in those
> remarks that the war in
> Iraq will be defeated in Washington not Baghdad. 
> The surge is enjoying some
> success.  The wide-spread ethnic cleansing in and
> around Baghdad has been
> stopped and in some small way reversed.  This is in
> no small way due to the
> effective deployment of the Kurdish pesh mergas as
> part of the new Iraq
> national army.  The Arabs actually like them and
> welcome their presence.
> "They are much more polite than the Americans".  Yes
> their are still too
> many kidnappings and bombings.  And yes there is
> still huge amounts of work
> to do in rebuilding an effective government able to
> deliver the services,
> security and infrastructure that Iraq so badly
> needs.  And it will have to
> be "Iraq" as the Saudis, Turkey and Iran will accept
> nothing less; although
> they may go for an all-out war in the absence of the
> US military.
> Disengagement and flight by the US would be cowardly
> and immoral.  Look at
> what happened in Somalia.  Graham.
> 
> >
> >
> >On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:33 PM, Graham Dobson wrote:
> >
> >> Nonsense.  The families of the three Canadian
> soldiers killed in
> >> Afghanistan
> >> this weekend know different.  Counter-insurgency
> (in Iraq or
> >> anywhere else)
> >> is still war-fare.  And David Patreaus wrote the
> book on it for the US
> >> military.
> >
> > Sorry, but you cannot mangle the language to suit
> your
> >needs. War is
> >between countries; we are occupying a nation we
> defeated in a war.
> >The people there are using violence to get rid of
> our occupying
> >forces. This is what happens to all occupying
> forces.
> >
> >-- Ed Leafe
> >-- http://leafe.com
> >-- http://dabodev.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [NF] The Top 10 Dead or Dying Computer Skills

[Man-wai Chang]

> 25 years ago, Ada was going to become the dominant language in the 
> world (with the help of the U.S. Defense Department). Of course, in 
> those days, personal computers were just toys, too.

I wrote an Ada programs in my computer degree course. It's a pig-latin
translator. :)

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Re: [NF] The Top 10 Dead or Dying Computer Skills

[Paul Hill]

On 6/23/07, Man-wai Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 25 years ago, Ada was going to become the dominant language in the
> > world (with the help of the U.S. Defense Department). Of course, in
> > those days, personal computers were just toys, too.
>
> I wrote an Ada programs in my computer degree course. It's a pig-latin
> translator. :)

In Hong Kong?!??

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Re: [NF] The Top 10 Dead or Dying Computer Skills

[Man-wai Chang]

>> I wrote an Ada programs in my computer degree course. It's a pig-latin
>> translator. :)
> 
> In Hong Kong?!??

Yes. The lecturer was a US guy, called Mr. Bradley Swim. :)

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Re: [NF] The Top 10 Dead or Dying Computer Skills

[Man-wai Chang]

>> In Hong Kong?!??
> Yes. The lecturer was a US guy, called Mr. Bradley Swim. :)

His words for our class:
http://www.changmw.com/legend/bswim.htm

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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[MB Software Solutions]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> I think we should start a class-action suit against
> these a-holes and their clients.
>
> How much wasted time, wasted interview time, etc, when
> they don't want you to get the job anyway?
>
> These bastards should be sent to Gitmo and tortured.
>   
I couldn't agree more.  Deport these f*ckers to the worst hellhole in 
this world.  They shouldn't have an American citizenship.


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Re: Visual Steel - Visual Foxpro - Software That Flexes!!

[MB Software Solutions]

William Sanders / EFG wrote:
> Hats Off!!
> http://www.steelsolutions.com/
>
> Found in 'About.com' for a search on
> Fabrication Software.
>
> Go Go Gadget CodeBase!
> Mondo Regards [Bill]
>   
ahem.FabMate -- www.fabmate.com -- Visual Foxpro software

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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[Ed Leafe]

On Jun 23, 2007, at 6:32 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:

> I couldn't agree more.  Deport these f*ckers to the worst hellhole in
> this world.  They shouldn't have an American citizenship.

Why? They haven't broken any laws. Listen to defenders of what has  
been going on at the Dept. of Justice, and how they are using  
political tests to determine who gets what jobs. Look at how they  
fire anyone who investigates a Republican, or fails to charge a  
Democrat. Is this unethical? Damn right! But try to find where they  
have explicitly broken a law, and you'll be stymied.

If we have a culture of "you can do anything that isn't expressly  
prohibited, even if it is 100% against the spirit of the law", you  
get these sorts of weasels proliferating. Welcome to the Real World.

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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Ed Leafe]

On Jun 23, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Graham Dobson wrote:

> I think there is also a moral obligation not to abandon Iraq.  A  
> failed
> state in the heart of the middle east will be a breeding ground for
> terrorists to launch attacks around the world.

Oh, so you must have been opposed to the removal of Saddam, since  
anyone with even a bit of knowledge of the region knew that only his  
ruthlessness was able to hold together that unstable mix of divergent  
interests. All military assessments before the invasion agreed that  
it would take a very strong military presence to maintain the order  
that Saddam was able to keep.

The reason that Iraq is such a mess now is that the Bush  
Administration did not heed the advice of its own military experts  
and instead followed the PNAC vision of an American-controlled state  
in the ME automatically bringing stability to an unstable region. And  
now we are supposed to continue to follow the advice of the people  
who got us into this completely avoidable mess and trust them to get  
us out. Sorry, this isn't baseball; you don't get three strikes.

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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Ed Leafe]

On Jun 23, 2007, at 12:40 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

> Recent studies indicate the present tactic of preemptive war is
> aggravating the terrorist treat, rather than reducing it, making our
> country less safe.

Believers in the pre-emptive war approach nearly always see  
terrorism as a force without a cause: that "those people" are simply  
violently evil by nature, and we need to eliminate them in the name  
of self-preservation. They don't even consider the possibility that  
they may be people like us, but whose passions have been inflamed by  
years of suffering that opportunists there have blamed on America.  
These opportunists have used this sentiment to build their own power  
base, and our actions there, starting with our military presence in  
their Holy Lands, and continuing with our unprovoked invasion of  
Iraq, have only served to validate the rantings of these  
opportunists. Now these opportunists look wise, as we have behaved  
exactly as they said we would, so the people there see them as  
legitimate, and they are now attracting more and more people to their  
cause every day as a result.

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RE: Automation with Word 2007

[Stephen the Cook]

Graham Dobson <> wrote:
>> run my automation. Gawd, it was an ugly sight.  Nothing worked
>> properly, and trying to fix it was so overwhelming  I decided
>> then and there that I was done trying to code for Office automation.
>> I was not about to recode all the stuff needed to bring Office97
>> functionality to Office 2000. 
>> 
> 
> 
> Maybe it is because I only do straight forward things in Excel, but
> office automation has been a large part of almost every application
> I've ever worked on.  I would like to also say that _Microsoft Office
> Automation with Visual FoxPro_ by Granor and Martin is without any
> reservation whatsoever the very best book ever written on the
> subject.  Graham. 

One of the people I work with is having a hard time getting Word temples
with macros signed for use with out a stupid warning.

We have lots of reporting that puts the output in word and excel.  This is
coming off of Quickbooks data.

Anyone have a clue on certificate registration? 

Stephen Russell
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RE: [NF] Security Software

[Jeff Johnson]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Bill Arnold
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software
> 
> > I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the
> > hard drive regardless of what type of files are in it.  For
> > example, I have a folder with QuickBooks in it.  I would like
> > to encrypt that folder when I am not using it and decrypt it
> > when I want to open QuickBooks.
> 
> 
> Jeff, how about something simple like WINZIP'ing the folder with a
> password?
> 
> Is this for internal use, or a customer requirement?
> 
> 
> Bill
> 

Good idea Bill.  I will consider it.  This is strictly internal for my stuff
and any customer data I may be working with.

Jeff

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RE: [NF] Security Software

[Mike Wohlrab]

I found this link for a free utility that sounds like it does a nice job. Here
is a link to it: http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/default.php

Computer Technology Solutions
Mike Wohlrab
585-944-3823
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ftp://mikewohlrab.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Johnson
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software
> 
> Jeff Johnson <> wrote:
> > There are two things I would like to accomplish.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the hard
> > drive regardless of what type of files are in it.  For example, I
> > have a folder with QuickBooks in it.  I would like to encrypt that
> > folder when I am not using it and decrypt it when I want to open
> > QuickBooks.
> >
> >
> >
> > The second thing is a wipe disk utility.  I know there are a lot out
> > there, but I would appreciate your suggestions on something easy to
> > use.
> 
> Degaussing coil for TV screens or a VCR tape eraser will really screw with
> a
> hard drive.  Or your evil coworkers laptop ;-)

Steve:  I have a serious mag mount for my ham radio antennas that works
great for this, but I want to give my drives to a friend and / or charity so
they can use them.  I have about 10 drives ranging from 20g to 40g that are
very useable.

Jeff

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RE: [NF] Security Software

[Jeff Johnson]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software
> 
> Jeff Johnson <> wrote:
> > There are two things I would like to accomplish.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the hard
> > drive regardless of what type of files are in it.  For example, I
> > have a folder with QuickBooks in it.  I would like to encrypt that
> > folder when I am not using it and decrypt it when I want to open
> > QuickBooks.
> >
> >
> >
> > The second thing is a wipe disk utility.  I know there are a lot out
> > there, but I would appreciate your suggestions on something easy to
> > use.
> 
> Degaussing coil for TV screens or a VCR tape eraser will really screw with
> a
> hard drive.  Or your evil coworkers laptop ;-)

Steve:  I have a serious mag mount for my ham radio antennas that works
great for this, but I want to give my drives to a friend and / or charity so
they can use them.  I have about 10 drives ranging from 20g to 40g that are
very useable.

Jeff

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RE: [NF] Security Software

[Bill Arnold]

> I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the 
> hard drive regardless of what type of files are in it.  For 
> example, I have a folder with QuickBooks in it.  I would like 
> to encrypt that folder when I am not using it and decrypt it 
> when I want to open QuickBooks.


Jeff, how about something simple like WINZIP'ing the folder with a
password? 

Is this for internal use, or a customer requirement? 


Bill


> The second thing is a wipe disk utility.  I know there are a 
> lot out there, but I would appreciate your suggestions on 
> something easy to use.
> 
>  
> 
> TIA 
> 
>  
> 
> Jeff 



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RE: [NF] Security Software

[William Sanders / EFG]

I use PGP on folders with sensitive stuff.

There's a windows version you can get, free, iirc.
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Re: [NF] Security Software

[Vince Teachout]

kam wrote:
> Take a look at TrueCrypt (free: http://www.truecrypt.org/).

I second TrueCrypt.  I was going to suggest it and Kam beat me to it.


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RE: [NF] Security Software

[Jeff Johnson]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of William Sanders / EFG
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software
> 
> I use PGP on folders with sensitive stuff.
> 
> There's a windows version you can get, free, iirc.
> Regards [Bill]
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Bill:  I have used PGP but didn't think of it for this.  I will look into
it.

Jeff

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Re: [NF] Security Software

[kam]

Take a look at TrueCrypt (free: http://www.truecrypt.org/).

It is simple to use. It will create a single file of any size you want. Inside 
that file is what amounts to an encrypted file 
system. That means you can backup all your secret data by backing up that 
single file. It is encrypted with 256 bit AES. When you 
put in your password, the 'file system' is mapped to the letter you select. It 
can be used exactly like any other drive or network 
share.

Here is a 'walkthru' that we recommend for our clients:
http://www.stratfordsoftware.com/stratford/securityrecommendation.htm
It has some recommendations for creation, backup and security..


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Wohlrab" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software


I found this link for a free utility that sounds like it does a nice job. Here
is a link to it: http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/default.php

Computer Technology Solutions
Mike Wohlrab
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Johnson
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software
>
> Jeff Johnson <> wrote:
> > There are two things I would like to accomplish.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the hard
> > drive regardless of what type of files are in it.  For example, I
> > have a folder with QuickBooks in it.  I would like to encrypt that
> > folder when I am not using it and decrypt it when I want to open
> > QuickBooks.
> >
> >
> >
> > The second thing is a wipe disk utility.  I know there are a lot out
> > there, but I would appreciate your suggestions on something easy to
> > use.
>
> Degaussing coil for TV screens or a VCR tape eraser will really screw with
> a
> hard drive.  Or your evil coworkers laptop ;-)

Steve:  I have a serious mag mount for my ham radio antennas that works
great for this, but I want to give my drives to a friend and / or charity so
they can use them.  I have about 10 drives ranging from 20g to 40g that are
very useable.

Jeff

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Re: Visual Steel - Visual Foxpro - Software That Flexes!!

[William Sanders / EFG]

Hiya MB -

'ahem' - indeed.
I not find your software listed in 'about.com'
'ahem ahem ahem' ..

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[NF] Jobs for the English speaking

[Stephen Russell]

I find that there seems to be a great deal of anger on this list that jobs
are not available.  I find the situation opposite to that.  Why?  Because I
am understood in a conversation / interview.  Seems that there may be 10
people presented for the job, but few have native English as their spoken
tongue. This has been told to me by numerous interviewers over the past two
years.

What are the issues that others are finding?  Too many applicants for the
posting or is it something else?

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer
 
Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do
them absolutely no good." 
---Unknown

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RE: [NF] Security Software

[Stephen the Cook]

Jeff Johnson <> wrote:
> There are two things I would like to accomplish.
> 
> 
> 
> I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the hard
> drive regardless of what type of files are in it.  For example, I
> have a folder with QuickBooks in it.  I would like to encrypt that
> folder when I am not using it and decrypt it when I want to open
> QuickBooks.
> 
> 
> 
> The second thing is a wipe disk utility.  I know there are a lot out
> there, but I would appreciate your suggestions on something easy to
> use.  

Degaussing coil for TV screens or a VCR tape eraser will really screw with a
hard drive.  Or your evil coworkers laptop ;-)


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

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can do them absolutely no good." ---Unknown

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[NF] Security Software

[Jeff Johnson]

There are two things I would like to accomplish.  

 

I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the hard drive
regardless of what type of files are in it.  For example, I have a folder
with QuickBooks in it.  I would like to encrypt that folder when I am not
using it and decrypt it when I want to open QuickBooks.

 

The second thing is a wipe disk utility.  I know there are a lot out there,
but I would appreciate your suggestions on something easy to use.

 

TIA 

 

Jeff 

 

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RE: [NF] Security Software

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Jeff Johnson <> wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook
>> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:59 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software
>> 
>> Jeff Johnson <> wrote:
>>> There are two things I would like to accomplish.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the hard
>>> drive regardless of what type of files are in it.  For example, I
>>> have a folder with QuickBooks in it.  I would like to encrypt that
>>> folder when I am not using it and decrypt it when I want to open
>>> QuickBooks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The second thing is a wipe disk utility.  I know there are a lot out
>>> there, but I would appreciate your suggestions on something easy to
>>> use.
>> 
>> Degaussing coil for TV screens or a VCR tape eraser will really screw
>> with a hard drive.  Or your evil coworkers laptop ;-)
> 
> Steve:  I have a serious mag mount for my ham radio antennas that
> works great for this, but I want to give my drives to a friend and /
> or charity so they can use them.  I have about 10 drives ranging from
> 20g to 40g that are very useable.   

I took one and did a "mag zap" then did a new install after the fact.  


Stephen Russell
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[MB Software Solutions General Account]

Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Believers in the pre-emptive war approach nearly always see  
> terrorism as a force without a cause: that "those people" are simply  
> violently evil by nature, and we need to eliminate them in the name  
> of self-preservation. They don't even consider the possibility that  
> they may be people like us, but whose passions have been inflamed by  
> years of suffering that opportunists there have blamed on America.  
> These opportunists have used this sentiment to build their own power  
> base, and our actions there, starting with our military presence in  
> their Holy Lands, and continuing with our unprovoked invasion of  
> Iraq, have only served to validate the rantings of these  
> opportunists. Now these opportunists look wise, as we have behaved  
> exactly as they said we would, so the people there see them as  
> legitimate, and they are now attracting more and more people to their  
> cause every day as a result.
>
>   

Yes, it seems for every terrorist we kill, 2 more would-be's take his place.


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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[MB Software Solutions]

Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Why? They haven't broken any laws. Listen to defenders of what has  
> been going on at the Dept. of Justice, and how they are using  
> political tests to determine who gets what jobs. Look at how they  
> fire anyone who investigates a Republican, or fails to charge a  
> Democrat. Is this unethical? Damn right! But try to find where they  
> have explicitly broken a law, and you'll be stymied.
>
>   If we have a culture of "you can do anything that isn't expressly  
> prohibited, even if it is 100% against the spirit of the law", you  
> get these sorts of weasels proliferating. Welcome to the Real World.
>
>   

The Real World needs to change.  WE can empower that change at the 
voting booth (I hope).  Yes, those weasels should be deported too.  This 
country is too packed with idiots anyway.  Let's thin out the 
population.   

-- 
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[Michael Madigan]

I haven't heard Rush's or Hannity's take on this, but
I would believe they are against this.

This has pissed me off for a while, because I never,
never believed that the US wasn't producing enough
programmers to fill the positions.

Someone should get a list of these douchebag's clients
and boycott them.

--- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mike:
> 
> If you don't like it, don't support it.  It IS us
> and them -- the people 
> vs. the corporations.
> 
> http://www.programmersguild.org/
> 
> Join and fight!
> 
> (And STOP listening to the corporations mouthpieces
> -- rush and faux news)
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
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RE: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Graham Dobson]

Sunni Arab countries don't want to see the US cut and run from Iraq.  They
are frightened by the growing threat of Iran; because, Leland, unlike the
US, Iran is a country run by a terrifying and extremist God.

And Bill, believe it or not Israeli's would love to give back the west bank
territories and dismantle the Jewish settlements, which, ironically would
align them with most of their Sunni neighbors.  Iran on the contrary has no
interest in peace in Palestine.  Of course any peace is unlikely to unfold.
Israel is too weak politically and the Palestinians seem intent on killing
each other.  There is no room for an international peace keeping
intervention.

Yes, Ed the US army needs more money and men, which in this climate they
will not get.

What Iraq really needs is for a rational and strong Sunni leader to emerge
in order to forge a true government of national unity.

None of this has happened but I can't see anyone of any political stripe
drawing comfort from this,  except perhaps Iran and radical jihadists.
Graham

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>Behalf Of Ed Leafe
>Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:09 AM
>To: ProFox Email List
>Subject: Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose
>
>
>On Jun 23, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Graham Dobson wrote:
>
>> I think there is also a moral obligation not to abandon Iraq.  A
>> failed
>> state in the heart of the middle east will be a breeding ground for
>> terrorists to launch attacks around the world.
>
>   Oh, so you must have been opposed to the removal of Saddam, since
>anyone with even a bit of knowledge of the region knew that only his
>ruthlessness was able to hold together that unstable mix of divergent
>interests. All military assessments before the invasion agreed that
>it would take a very strong military presence to maintain the order
>that Saddam was able to keep.
>
>   The reason that Iraq is such a mess now is that the Bush
>Administration did not heed the advice of its own military experts
>and instead followed the PNAC vision of an American-controlled state
>in the ME automatically bringing stability to an unstable region. And
>now we are supposed to continue to follow the advice of the people
>who got us into this completely avoidable mess and trust them to get
>us out. Sorry, this isn't baseball; you don't get three strikes.
>
>-- Ed Leafe
>-- http://leafe.com
>-- http://dabodev.com
>
>
>
>
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Re: [NF] Jobs for the English speaking

[Michael Madigan]

I don't think that anybody saying that they can't get
a job.

What they are saying is that the illegal H1-B hirings
are lowering the salaries of all of us.

Congress put the H1-B visas in to supply bodies where
no bodies could be found.  

Obviously there are plenty of bodies available.


--- Stephen Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I find that there seems to be a great deal of anger
> on this list that jobs
> are not available.  I find the situation opposite to
> that.  Why?  Because I
> am understood in a conversation / interview.  Seems
> that there may be 10
> people presented for the job, but few have native
> English as their spoken
> tongue. This has been told to me by numerous
> interviewers over the past two
> years.
> 
> What are the issues that others are finding?  Too
> many applicants for the
> posting or is it something else?
> 
> Stephen Russell
> DBA / .Net Developer
>  
> Memphis TN 38115
> 901.246-0159
> 
> "A good way to judge people is by observing how they
> treat those who can do
> them absolutely no good." 
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Re: [NF] Toner waste

[Chet Gardiner]

Send the toner back to the idiots that made the machine.

If it's a Xerox, pack it in a box and send it to Xerox.



Jeff Johnson wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions
>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:40 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [NF] Toner waste
>>
>> MB Software Solutions wrote:
>> 
>>> I've got a client who wants to get rid of her toner waste.  Not the
>>> toner cartridge, but toner waste.
>>>
>>> Anyway, she called Staples and they said they only take cartridges.
>>> Does anyone know of a proper way to dispose of this waste?  The label on
>>> the toner says "...that you should dispose per your local waste disposal
>>> guidelines and not to mix it in with the regular trash."
>>>
>>> Advice appreciated...tia!
>>> --Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>  From the client:
>>
>> "No, this is something called a waste toner pack.  It is totally
>> separate from the ink cartridges.  It is a clear plastic container
>> that fills with a blackish colored powder.  It has to be replaced
>> every so often or our printer will stop working."
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
>> MB Software Solutions, LLC
>> http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
>> http://fabmate.com
>> "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!"
>>
>> 
>
> Michael:  I have a laser printer that fills up a plastic bin with waste
> toner.  The printer stops and will not print when the bucket is full.  The
> instructions say to dispose of the bucket in the same manner your client
> mentioned.  I went to buy a new one and can't find them anywhere.  So I have
> been cleaning out the old toner making sure that the sensor can see through
> the viewing window at the full point.  I put the toner in a plastic
> container that is sealed tight and throw it away.  I drop off my empty toner
> cartridges at Staples.
>
> Jeff
>
> Jeff Johnson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[Chet Gardiner]

Our goal is NOT TO FIND a qualified U.S. Worker.

And these folks probably think they're the "good guys".  They think (and 
they ARE) fulfilling their purpose of counseling their clients about how 
to fulfill the prime requisite of capitalism -- maximize profits.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the capitalist system that naturally 
produces these monsters...it's built into the profit motive.

Quelle suprise?



Michael Madigan wrote:
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
>
>
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[Chet Gardiner]

Mike:

If you don't like it, don't support it.  It IS us and them -- the people 
vs. the corporations.

http://www.programmersguild.org/

Join and fight!

(And STOP listening to the corporations mouthpieces -- rush and faux news)


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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Michael Madigan]

So let's not kill any.  Right?


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> Ed Leafe wrote:
> > Believers in the pre-emptive war approach nearly
> always see  
> > terrorism as a force without a cause: that "those
> people" are simply  
> > violently evil by nature, and we need to eliminate
> them in the name  
> > of self-preservation. They don't even consider the
> possibility that  
> > they may be people like us, but whose passions
> have been inflamed by  
> > years of suffering that opportunists there have
> blamed on America.  
> > These opportunists have used this sentiment to
> build their own power  
> > base, and our actions there, starting with our
> military presence in  
> > their Holy Lands, and continuing with our
> unprovoked invasion of  
> > Iraq, have only served to validate the rantings of
> these  
> > opportunists. Now these opportunists look wise, as
> we have behaved  
> > exactly as they said we would, so the people there
> see them as  
> > legitimate, and they are now attracting more and
> more people to their  
> > cause every day as a result.
> >
> >   
> 
> Yes, it seems for every terrorist we kill, 2 more
> would-be's take his place.
> 
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Re: [NF] Jobs for the English speaking

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You DID watch this, right?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU




Stephen Russell wrote:
> I find that there seems to be a great deal of anger on this list that jobs
> are not available.  I find the situation opposite to that.  Why?  Because I
> am understood in a conversation / interview.  Seems that there may be 10
> people presented for the job, but few have native English as their spoken
> tongue. This has been told to me by numerous interviewers over the past two
> years.
>
> What are the issues that others are finding?  Too many applicants for the
> posting or is it something else?
>
> Stephen Russell
> DBA / .Net Developer
>  
> Memphis TN 38115
> 901.246-0159
>
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[Michael Madigan]

No, the department of justice appointments are
political appointments, and are legal.

These people are going around the law that says that
Indians should only get jobs that can't be filled by
Americans,



--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jun 23, 2007, at 6:32 AM, MB Software Solutions
> wrote:
> 
> > I couldn't agree more.  Deport these f*ckers to
> the worst hellhole in
> > this world.  They shouldn't have an American
> citizenship.
> 
>   Why? They haven't broken any laws. Listen to
> defenders of what has  
> been going on at the Dept. of Justice, and how they
> are using  
> political tests to determine who gets what jobs.
> Look at how they  
> fire anyone who investigates a Republican, or fails
> to charge a  
> Democrat. Is this unethical? Damn right! But try to
> find where they  
> have explicitly broken a law, and you'll be stymied.
> 
>   If we have a culture of "you can do anything that
> isn't expressly  
> prohibited, even if it is 100% against the spirit of
> the law", you  
> get these sorts of weasels proliferating. Welcome to
> the Real World.
> 
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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[Michael Madigan]

No, this isn't the capitalist system.  These people
are, if not breaking the law, are breaking the spirit
of the law.

These are lawbreakers.

And these scumbag lawyers are no better than Nifong.



--- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Our goal is NOT TO FIND a qualified U.S. Worker.
> 
> And these folks probably think they're the "good
> guys".  They think (and 
> they ARE) fulfilling their purpose of counseling
> their clients about how 
> to fulfill the prime requisite of capitalism --
> maximize profits.
> 
> If you want to blame anyone, blame the capitalist
> system that naturally 
> produces these monsters...it's built into the profit
> motive.
> 
> Quelle suprise?
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
> >
> >
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RE: [NF] The Top 10 Dead or Dying Computer Skills

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Michael,

> Once you got into it ADA was really good as it trapped most 
> stupid errors
> and read really well (like VFP) but if you really want to set 
> your teeth on
> edge try OCCAM (for transputers) or APL (who creator was obviously
> demented).

I actually worked with OCCAM for a short time. At the time I thought it was
appropriate to the task because it had to handle multiple threads at a time
when few things dealt with that type of concept.

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Re: [OT] Hamas and Fatah and those like them

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Graham Dobson wrote:
> Who's going to protect the trade routes from pirates?
> 

Hahahaha! That's a good one! Never heard it before (and now I'm just
READING it). So now you're killing people in Iraq to protect the trade
routes from pirates. hahaha!



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Re: [OT] Hamas and Fatah and those like them

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Adam Buckland wrote:
> Well if you are going to invade anyone that's previously invaded the US,
> might as well include, Spain, the Netherlands and the UK as well as
> Canada.
> 

The Brits never invaded you. You took USA out from them!
Did Spain really invade USA? Didn't know.


> Bad Adam! 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Stephen the Cook
> 
> Screw those damn Canadians!  We don't need their oil.  Why don't we just
> invade them as well.  They already understand democracy.  
> 
> Bad Steve! 
> 
> Stephen Russell
> DBA / .Net Developer
> 
> 
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RE: [NF] Security Software

[Jeff Johnson]

> >
> > Steve:  I have a serious mag mount for my ham radio antennas that
> > works great for this, but I want to give my drives to a friend and /
> > or charity so they can use them.  I have about 10 drives ranging from
> > 20g to 40g that are very useable.
> 
> I took one and did a "mag zap" then did a new install after the fact.
> 
> 
> Stephen Russell
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> 
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> 901.246-0159
> 
> "A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who
> can do them absolutely no good." ---Unknown
> 
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/


Steve:

I've found that doing the magnet thing ruins the drive.  You can reformat
them?

Jeff

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[NF] Graphic editing/ creation software

[Mike Wohlrab]

Hey all,

 

I am looking for some guidance as to if anyone knows of some good free graphic
editing and creation software. On my website I have some images that link to
other pages, but they have become blurred so I need to clean them up and make
them look nicer. I also have some images that link to more information about my
services, but I need to make some buttons that say "More Info" instead of "Buy
Now" as well as creating some other images to add to the site as well.

 

My budget is very low, and I can't spend anything for the programs, so they have
to be free or ill have to find some other way to get what I need done.

 

Thanks all.

 

Computer Technology Solutions

Mike Wohlrab

585-944-3823

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[NF] Mandriva says "NO" to M$, even before they ever offer

[MB Software Solutions]

http://www.techspot.com/news/25815-mandriva-lashes-out-at-microsoft-deals.html

Boy...these guys are definitely M$ haters!!

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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[MB Software Solutions]

Chet Gardiner wrote:
> Mike:
>
> If you don't like it, don't support it.  It IS us and them -- the people 
> vs. the corporations.
>
> http://www.programmersguild.org/
>
> Join and fight!
>
> (And STOP listening to the corporations mouthpieces -- rush and faux news)
>   

Definitely one for the Bookmarks Toolbar folder!

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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

[Michael Madigan]

I betcha they use them as references in their sales
literature.



--- MB Software Solutions
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> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > I haven't heard Rush's or Hannity's take on this,
> but
> > I would believe they are against this.
> >
> > This has pissed me off for a while, because I
> never,
> > never believed that the US wasn't producing enough
> > programmers to fill the positions.
> >
> > Someone should get a list of these douchebag's
> clients
> > and boycott them.
> >   
> 
> You'd be hard pressed to get a list of that law
> firms clients.
> 
> -- 
> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

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Michael Madigan wrote:
> So let's not kill any.  Right?
>
>   
Let's fortify our borders and improve our infrastructure to resist them 
even more.

Would you spend $3 to make $2?

Are we better off terrorists being dead?  Yes, perhaps, but not if it 
spawns the creation of 2 for every one we kill!


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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Graham Dobson wrote:
> Sunni Arab countries don't want to see the US cut and run from Iraq.  They
> are frightened by the growing threat of Iran; because, Leland, unlike the
> US, Iran is a country run by a terrifying and extremist God.
>
> And Bill, believe it or not Israeli's would love to give back the west bank
> territories and dismantle the Jewish settlements, which, ironically would
> align them with most of their Sunni neighbors.  Iran on the contrary has no
> interest in peace in Palestine.  Of course any peace is unlikely to unfold.
> Israel is too weak politically and the Palestinians seem intent on killing
> each other.  There is no room for an international peace keeping
> intervention.
>
> Yes, Ed the US army needs more money and men, which in this climate they
> will not get.
>
> What Iraq really needs is for a rational and strong Sunni leader to emerge
> in order to forge a true government of national unity.
>   

Why do you think it would take a "strong Sunni" leader to unify Iraq.  
It seems to me that the Muslim denomination of  the leader that must 
eventually emerge to unify Iraq would not matter, given the diversity of 
the Iraqi population, and the majority of the population of Iraq belong 
to the Shiite denomination of the Muslim Religion.  In any event I agree 
someone with strong leadership skills and militia power must emerge to 
unify and rule Iraq.  Perhaps if the U.S. was factored out of the Iraq 
equation for peace against the US supported Maliki government, such a 
leader would emerge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuri_Kamal_Al-Maliki

Regards,

LelandJ

> None of this has happened but I can't see anyone of any political stripe
> drawing comfort from this,  except perhaps Iran and radical jihadists.
> Graham
>
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Behalf Of Ed Leafe
>> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:09 AM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose
>>
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Graham Dobson wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I think there is also a moral obligation not to abandon Iraq.  A
>>> failed
>>> state in the heart of the middle east will be a breeding ground for
>>> terrorists to launch attacks around the world.
>>>   
>>  Oh, so you must have been opposed to the removal of Saddam, since
>> anyone with even a bit of knowledge of the region knew that only his
>> ruthlessness was able to hold together that unstable mix of divergent
>> interests. All military assessments before the invasion agreed that
>> it would take a very strong military presence to maintain the order
>> that Saddam was able to keep.
>>
>>  The reason that Iraq is such a mess now is that the Bush
>> Administration did not heed the advice of its own military experts
>> and instead followed the PNAC vision of an American-controlled state
>> in the ME automatically bringing stability to an unstable region. And
>> now we are supposed to continue to follow the advice of the people
>> who got us into this completely avoidable mess and trust them to get
>> us out. Sorry, this isn't baseball; you don't get three strikes.
>>
>> -- Ed Leafe
>> -- http://leafe.com
>> -- http://dabodev.com
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

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Graham Dobson wrote:
> Sunni Arab countries don't want to see the US cut and run from Iraq.  They
> are frightened by the growing threat of Iran; because, Leland, unlike the
> US, Iran is a country run by a terrifying and extremist God.
>   
He's no God, and I don't consider "Allah" to be a god like the true 
Christian God.  They're just religious fanatical nutbags.  Same as the 
whackos here who kill abortion doctors.

> And Bill, believe it or not Israeli's would love to give back the west bank
> territories and dismantle the Jewish settlements, which, ironically would
> align them with most of their Sunni neighbors.  Iran on the contrary has no
> interest in peace in Palestine.  Of course any peace is unlikely to unfold.
> Israel is too weak politically and the Palestinians seem intent on killing
> each other.  There is no room for an international peace keeping
> intervention.
>   
Are you thinking that Israel is liking the fact that Hamas and Fatah are 
killing each other, so it's less to oppose them?

> Yes, Ed the US army needs more money and men, which in this climate they
> will not get.
>   
We wouldn't need more if we weren't over extended in both Iraq and 
Afghanistan, not to mention other places where we have a military 
presence.  Bring 'em home.  Let those folks fend for themselves rather 
than take us for granted and just bitch about us anyway.

> What Iraq really needs is for a rational and strong Sunni leader to emerge
> in order to forge a true government of national unity.
>   
They need to be civilized...not barbaric.




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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

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Michael Madigan wrote:
> I betcha they use them as references in their sales
> literature.
>
>   
I'll take that bet.  Beer at the next Fox meeting we see each other at!  
(Or virtual beer here.)


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Re: [NF] How to screw the American computer programmer

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Michael Madigan wrote:
> I haven't heard Rush's or Hannity's take on this, but
> I would believe they are against this.
>
> This has pissed me off for a while, because I never,
> never believed that the US wasn't producing enough
> programmers to fill the positions.
>
> Someone should get a list of these douchebag's clients
> and boycott them.
>   

You'd be hard pressed to get a list of that law firms clients.

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Re: [NF] Jobs for the English speaking

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Michael Madigan wrote:
> I don't think that anybody saying that they can't get
> a job.
>
> What they are saying is that the illegal H1-B hirings
> are lowering the salaries of all of us.
>
> Congress put the H1-B visas in to supply bodies where
> no bodies could be found.  
>
> Obviously there are plenty of bodies available.
>   

Corporate America hated IT from the pre-dotcom-bust days, where IT rates 
were through the roof.  They put this plan into action to crush that 
"salary rebellion" and break our rates significantly.  That's my take, 
anyway.

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Re: [NF] Mandriva says "NO" to M$, even before they ever offer

[Ted Roche]

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> Boy...these guys are definitely M$ haters!!
>

I think you're projecting. They just said,

"In a statement on his company blog, Francois Bancilhon, CEO of
Paris-based Mandriva, said, "We don't believe it is necessary for us
to get protection from Microsoft to do our job, or to pay protection
money to anyone."

I don't see anything irrational with that statement.

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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Michael Madigan]

How many Nazis were created after WWII?


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> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > So let's not kill any.  Right?
> >
> >   
> Let's fortify our borders and improve our
> infrastructure to resist them 
> even more.
> 
> Would you spend $3 to make $2?
> 
> Are we better off terrorists being dead?  Yes,
> perhaps, but not if it 
> spawns the creation of 2 for every one we kill!
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

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Your analogy is flawed.  For one thing, Germany is a country against 
whom the U.S. and other countries officially declared war.  Germany and 
its Nazi army were defeated and surrender under terms dictated by the 
allied Forces.  Terrorism isn't like that.

Regards,

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> How many Nazis were created after WWII?
>
>
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>   
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>>> So let's not kill any.  Right?
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
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>> infrastructure to resist them 
>> even more.
>>
>> Would you spend $3 to make $2?
>>
>> Are we better off terrorists being dead?  Yes,
>> perhaps, but not if it 
>> spawns the creation of 2 for every one we kill!
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Hummm, perhaps this is better:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#End_of_the_war_in_Europe

Regards,

LelandJ



Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> To bad Terrorism doesn't fall into such a nice tidy bowl:
>
> #--
>
>
> End of the war in Europe
>
> /Main articles: Yalta Conference
> , End of World War II
> in Europe
> , and
> Prague Offensive /
>
> Roosevelt , 
> Churchill, and Stalin  made 
> arrangements for post-war Europe at the Yalta Conference in February 
> 1945. Their meeting resulted in many important resolutions such as the 
> formation of the United Nations 
> , democratic elections in 
> Poland, borders of Poland moved westwards 
>  at the expense of 
>  Germany, 
> Soviet nationals were to be repatriated 
>  and it was agreed that 
> Soviet Union would attack Japan within three months of Germany's 
> surrender.After Hitler's death (on April 30), Grand Admiral 
>  Karl Dönitz 
>  became leader of the 
> German government but the German war effort 
>  quickly disintegrated. German 
> forces in Berlin surrendered the city to Soviet troops on May 2 
> , 1945. The German forces in Italy 
> surrendered on May 2 , 1945, at 
> General Alexander's headquarters, and German forces in northern Germany 
> , Denmark, and the 
> Netherlands surrendered on May 4 . 
> The German High Command under Generaloberst Alfred Jodl 
>  surrendered unconditionally 
> all remaining German forces on May 7 
>  in Rheims 
> , France. The western Allies 
> celebrated "V-E Day 
> " on May 8 
> , since the final German surrender 
> was signed in Berlin on that day. The Soviet Union celebrated "Victory 
> Day " on May 9 
>  due to time zone differences; the 
> final cessation of German military activity happened at one minute past 
> midnight by their clock. Some remnants of German Army Group Center 
> continued resistance until May 11  
> or May 12  (see Prague Offensive 
> )
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
>
> #--
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>   
>> How many Nazis were created after WWII?
>>
>>
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>> 
>>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 So let's not kill any.  Right?

   
   
 
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>>> even more.
>>>
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>>>
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>>> spawns the creation of 2 for every one we kill!
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

To bad Terrorism doesn't fall into such a nice tidy bowl:

#--


End of the war in Europe

/Main articles: Yalta Conference
, End of World War II
in Europe
, and
Prague Offensive /

Roosevelt , 
Churchill, and Stalin  made 
arrangements for post-war Europe at the Yalta Conference in February 
1945. Their meeting resulted in many important resolutions such as the 
formation of the United Nations 
, democratic elections in 
Poland, borders of Poland moved westwards 
 at the expense of 
 Germany, 
Soviet nationals were to be repatriated 
 and it was agreed that 
Soviet Union would attack Japan within three months of Germany's 
surrender.After Hitler's death (on April 30), Grand Admiral 
 Karl Dönitz 
 became leader of the 
German government but the German war effort 
 quickly disintegrated. German 
forces in Berlin surrendered the city to Soviet troops on May 2 
, 1945. The German forces in Italy 
surrendered on May 2 , 1945, at 
General Alexander's headquarters, and German forces in northern Germany 
, Denmark, and the 
Netherlands surrendered on May 4 . 
The German High Command under Generaloberst Alfred Jodl 
 surrendered unconditionally 
all remaining German forces on May 7 
 in Rheims 
, France. The western Allies 
celebrated "V-E Day 
" on May 8 
, since the final German surrender 
was signed in Berlin on that day. The Soviet Union celebrated "Victory 
Day " on May 9 
 due to time zone differences; the 
final cessation of German military activity happened at one minute past 
midnight by their clock. Some remnants of German Army Group Center 
continued resistance until May 11  
or May 12  (see Prague Offensive 
)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

#--

Regards,

LelandJ


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>
>
> --- MB Software Solutions General Account
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>   
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>>> So let's not kill any.  Right?
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
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>> even more.
>>
>> Would you spend $3 to make $2?
>>
>> Are we better off terrorists being dead?  Yes,
>> perhaps, but not if it 
>> spawns the creation of 2 for every one we kill!
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Re: [NF] Mandriva says "NO" to M$, even before they ever offer

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Ted Roche wrote:
> On 6/23/07, MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Boy...these guys are definitely M$ haters!!
>>
>> 
>
> I think you're projecting. They just said,
>
> "In a statement on his company blog, Francois Bancilhon, CEO of
> Paris-based Mandriva, said, "We don't believe it is necessary for us
> to get protection from Microsoft to do our job, or to pay protection
> money to anyone."
>
> I don't see anything irrational with that statement.
>
>   
Fair enough, but they certainly have no love for M$, or at least that's 
the impression I got from their comments.

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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Michael Madigan]

It's a perfect analogy.

When you punch a schoolyard bully in the face, he
stops bullying you.

When you let a schoolyard bully push you around, he
continues to push you around.



--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Your analogy is flawed.  For one thing, Germany is a
> country against 
> whom the U.S. and other countries officially
> declared war.  Germany and 
> its Nazi army were defeated and surrender under
> terms dictated by the 
> allied Forces.  Terrorism isn't like that.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > How many Nazis were created after WWII?
> >
> >
> > --- MB Software Solutions General Account
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> >
> >   
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >> 
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> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> Let's fortify our borders and improve our
> >> infrastructure to resist them 
> >> even more.
> >>
> >> Would you spend $3 to make $2?
> >>
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> >> spawns the creation of 2 for every one we kill!
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Pete Theisen]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 18:43, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:

> Are we better off terrorists being dead?  Yes, perhaps, but not if it
> spawns the creation of 2 for every one we kill!

Hi Michael!

The myth that there are 2 terrorists created every time we kill one is a D (or 
A) article of faith, but it has not been proven. Seal the Iraq border, start 
killing terrorists in earnest and find out how long it takes to kill them.

It is just the influx of outsiders who want to get in on the 72 virgins that 
make it look like the Ts are multiplying. In reality, they have a much longer 
gestation period than the time it takes to kill them.
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Michael Madigan]

I believe your theories should be in the tidy bowl.


--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> To bad Terrorism doesn't fall into such a nice tidy
> bowl:
> 
> #--
> 
> 
> End of the war in Europe
> 
> /Main articles: Yalta Conference
> ,
> End of World War II
> in Europe
>
>
,
> and
> Prague Offensive
> /
> 
> Roosevelt
>
,
> 
> Churchill, and Stalin
>  made 
> arrangements for post-war Europe at the Yalta
> Conference in February 
> 1945. Their meeting resulted in many important
> resolutions such as the 
> formation of the United Nations 
> ,
> democratic elections in 
> Poland, borders of Poland moved westwards 
>  at the
> expense of 
>

> Germany, 
> Soviet nationals were to be repatriated 
>  and it
> was agreed that 
> Soviet Union would attack Japan within three months
> of Germany's 
> surrender.After Hitler's death (on April 30), Grand
> Admiral 
>  Karl
> Dönitz 
> 
> became leader of the 
> German government but the German war effort 
>  quickly
> disintegrated. German 
> forces in Berlin surrendered the city to Soviet
> troops on May 2 
> , 1945. The
> German forces in Italy 
> surrendered on May 2
> , 1945, at 
> General Alexander's headquarters, and German forces
> in northern Germany 
> ,
> Denmark, and the 
> Netherlands surrendered on May 4
> . 
> The German High Command under Generaloberst Alfred
> Jodl 
> 
> surrendered unconditionally 
> all remaining German forces on May 7 
>  in Rheims 
> , France. The
> western Allies 
> celebrated "V-E Day 
>
"
> on May 8 
> , since the
> final German surrender 
> was signed in Berlin on that day. The Soviet Union
> celebrated "Victory 
> Day " on
> May 9 
>  due to time
> zone differences; the 
> final cessation of German military activity happened
> at one minute past 
> midnight by their clock. Some remnants of German
> Army Group Center 
> continued resistance until May 11
>  
> or May 12  (see
> Prague Offensive 
> )
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
> 
> #--
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > How many Nazis were created after WWII?
> >
> >
> > --- MB Software Solutions General Account
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >> 
> >>> So let's not kill any.  Right?
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> Let's fortify our borders and improve our
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Again, Terrorism is a tactic whereby terrorist carry out acts of 
violence, or treats of violence, to create a platform on which to 
protest.  The acts of terrorism provide the terrorist with a voice to 
express grievances.  Terrorism is applied to encourage change; not to 
defeat a country into submission and surrender.  Terrorism in not war; 
although, the terrorist may use guerrilla warfare tactics.  The 
difference is intent or purpose.  Terrorist use terrorism as a platform 
to encourage change, while wars are fought on a much larger scale to 
defeat a country into surrender.

The Bush Administration has done a good job of blocking the voice of the 
terrorist by stereotyping all terrorist as innately evil, and never a 
mention as to the terrorist's motives or grievances.

Terrorist make up a small portion of the total population and fall in 
the right or left outer edges of the bell curve.  If the views of the 
terrorist spread within the population becoming the norm,  the 
population is more like to build militarily, and use the country's  army 
to wage war.  Then we have a real war with a defined country and army.

The Bush Administration's tactics of waging preemptive war is pushing 
terrorist views towards becoming the norm in many regions of the world.  
This makes the U.S., and the World, much less safe.

Regards,

LelandJ


Regards,

LelandJ

Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> Hummm, perhaps this is better:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#End_of_the_war_in_Europe
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>
>
> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>   
>> To bad Terrorism doesn't fall into such a nice tidy bowl:
>>
>> #--
>>
>>
>> End of the war in Europe
>>
>> /Main articles: Yalta Conference
>> , End of World War II
>> in Europe
>> , and
>> Prague Offensive /
>>
>> Roosevelt , 
>> Churchill, and Stalin  made 
>> arrangements for post-war Europe at the Yalta Conference in February 
>> 1945. Their meeting resulted in many important resolutions such as the 
>> formation of the United Nations 
>> , democratic elections in 
>> Poland, borders of Poland moved westwards 
>>  at the expense of 
>>  Germany, 
>> Soviet nationals were to be repatriated 
>>  and it was agreed that 
>> Soviet Union would attack Japan within three months of Germany's 
>> surrender.After Hitler's death (on April 30), Grand Admiral 
>>  Karl Dönitz 
>>  became leader of the 
>> German government but the German war effort 
>>  quickly disintegrated. German 
>> forces in Berlin surrendered the city to Soviet troops on May 2 
>> , 1945. The German forces in Italy 
>> surrendered on May 2 , 1945, at 
>> General Alexander's headquarters, and German forces in northern Germany 
>> , Denmark, and the 
>> Netherlands surrendered on May 4 . 
>> The German High Command under Generaloberst Alfred Jodl 
>>  surrendered unconditionally 
>> all remaining German forces on May 7 
>>  in Rheims 
>> , France. The western Allies 
>> celebrated "V-E Day 
>> " on May 8 
>> , since the final German surrender 
>> was signed in Berlin on that day. The Soviet Union celebrated "Victory 
>> Day " on May 9 
>>  due to time zone differences; the 
>> final cessation of German military activity happened at one minute past 
>> midnight by their clock. Some remnants of German Army Group Center 
>> continued resistance until May 11  
>> or May 12  (see Prague Offensive 
>> )
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
>>
>> #--
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> How many Nazis were created after WWII?
>>>
>>>
>>> --- MB Software Solutions General Account
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 Michael Madigan wrote:
 
   
 
> So let's not kill any.  Right?

Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Michael Madigan]

We've had an ant problem at my house for years, every
spring we have to put out ant baits, that the ants
carry back to their queen, killing her and all the
workers.

I wish someone was working on a similar solution for
the terrorists.




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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Again, a faulty analogy.  Terrorism is not nearly as structured as a 
colony of ants.  There is no single leadership figure, or mother head, 
in the terrorist organizational structure, than when eliminated would 
destroy the entire colony, like there is in an ant colony.  Terrorist 
groups are loosely couple, if at all, and work independent of one 
another.  When the leadership of one cell of terrorist is eliminated, 
there is an immediately replaced by his second in command, (eg number two).

Also, terrorism comes in all sizes, shapes, and colors, and as one group 
of terrorists vanish, they are replaced by some other group of 
extremist.  We will alway have terrorism, just like we will always have 
some criminals, some poor, some extremist, some crazes, etc.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
> We've had an ant problem at my house for years, every
> spring we have to put out ant baits, that the ants
> carry back to their queen, killing her and all the
> workers.
>
> I wish someone was working on a similar solution for
> the terrorists.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Pete Theisen]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 20:24, Michael Madigan wrote:
> We've had an ant problem at my house for years, every
> spring we have to put out ant baits, that the ants
> carry back to their queen, killing her and all the
> workers.
>
> I wish someone was working on a similar solution for
> the terrorists.

Hi Michael!

This is what Bush is doing with our troops in Iraq. If we were not in Iraq and 
Afghanistan we would have to handle it as a police matter here at home 
subject to impossible rules not to mention putting *our* civilian population 
at risk. The situation is far from perfect, but at least it is thousands of 
miles away.

Do you want the poison all over your kitchen or do you want it carried back to 
the nest? Do you want the suicide bombers at the corner deli in Queens or 
would it be all right to keep it in Iraq?
-- 
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RE: [NF] Security Software

[Bill Arnold]

> > Jeff, how about something simple like WINZIP'ing the folder with a 
> > password?
> > 
> > Is this for internal use, or a customer requirement?
> > 
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> 
> Good idea Bill.  I will consider it.  This is strictly 
> internal for my stuff and any customer data I may be working with.


Might be one less dependency, if you're already using WinZIP and no
other need to bring in encryption. Maybe zip files can serve a
double-purpose as backups?

I asked about customer involvement because I'm mindful of licensing and
doc I'm reviewing to make sure there are no claims to providing
"security" in any sense of the word. Just too risky.



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Re: [NF] Graphic editing/ creation software

[Tracy Pearson]

The GIMP might be what you are looking for
http://www.gimp.org/windows/

On Sat, June 23, 2007 7:20 pm, Mike Wohlrab wrote:
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> I am looking for some guidance as to if anyone knows of some good free
> graphic
> editing and creation software. On my website I have some images that link
> to
> other pages, but they have become blurred so I need to clean them up and
> make
> them look nicer. I also have some images that link to more information
> about my
> services, but I need to make some buttons that say "More Info" instead of
> "Buy
> Now" as well as creating some other images to add to the site as well.
>
>
>
> My budget is very low, and I can't spend anything for the programs, so
> they have
> to be free or ill have to find some other way to get what I need done.
>
>
>
> Thanks all.
>
>
>
> Computer Technology Solutions
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Re: [NF] Graphic editing/ creation software

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

> I am looking for some guidance as to if anyone knows of some good free graphic
> editing and creation software. On my website I have some images that link to
> other pages, but they have become blurred so I need to clean them up and make
> them look nicer. I also have some images that link to more information about 
> my
> services, but I need to make some buttons that say "More Info" instead of "Buy
> Now" as well as creating some other images to add to the site as well.
> 
>  
> 
> My budget is very low, and I can't spend anything for the programs, so they 
> have
> to be free or ill have to find some other way to get what I need done.

The GIMP is where it's at.

http://gimp.org/

If you're a PhotoShop diehard, you might also be interested in this:

http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241

Whil


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Re: [NF] Security Software

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Bill Arnold wrote:
> Might be one less dependency, if you're already using WinZIP and no
> other need to bring in encryption. Maybe zip files can serve a
> double-purpose as backups?
>   

I might interject here that it's super easy to use the free 7-zip 
utility to create zipped, password protected backups of any file  
Here's the single line that does it for me:

RUN /N 7za.exe a -tzip screenshots.zip CapturedForm*.png -pyour!pwd

I use in in conjuction with Cesar Chalom's publishing on Foxite for 
capturing screenshots!  Simple, and it works!

-- 
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
MB Software Solutions, LLC
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Re: [NF] Graphic editing/ creation software

[Pete Theisen]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 18:20, Mike Wohlrab wrote:
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> I am looking for some guidance as to if anyone knows of some good free
> graphic editing and creation software.

Hi Mike!

I did all the picture editing on my site in "The Gimp". I liked it.

I should do some more, but I have had some health issues and my housekeeping 
is out of hand. When (if) I ever catch up with it . . .
-- 
Regards,

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Re: [NF] Mandriva says "NO" to M$, even before they ever offer

[Ted Roche]

On 6/23/07, MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Fair enough, but they certainly have no love for M$, or at least that's
> the impression I got from their comments.

"no love of Microsoft?" This is not a company known for playing well
with others.

Microsoft wants vendors of free software to send MS money. In
exchange, MS might not sue them for patents that MS may not have, may
not be valid, may not be infringed, and might not survive the
challenge in court. MS hasn't actually tried to take to court of any
the people who they allege have infringed on patents they might not
have, but they're not likely to give back the money if the whole thing
turns out to be an unenforceable farce.

Would you send them money for patents they don't have and you may not
have infringed?

Novell bought into the no-sue-covenant because they'd been negotiating
a cross-licensing deal with MS for years. Novell needed the money
(Novell, not MS ended up with the net profit for the deal; it was
something like MS paying Novell $450 M for the cross-license, and
Novell paying $50 M for the convenant; net, Novell made enough money
to stay in business.)

Why anyone else would sign up is a bit of a mystery. I've heard
they've got a second customer, but haven't read details.

P.S. The covenant is supposed to be good for five years. I wonder what
kind of terms you get for a renewal?

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RE: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Graham Dobson]

>
I believe these fanatical jihadists are completely warped.  America and the
west are not the cause of their hatred.  Warped clerics and teachers from
their repressive, backward homelands and an extreme, intolerant reading of
Muslim religious texts are. The vast majority of Muslims are as sickened by
Jihad terror as westerners are.  It is also a bit of a stretch to call the
invasion of Iraq "unprovoked".  I don't recall anyone making that claim in
2003.  Regardless of the absence of WMDs Sadam promoted and paid for Islamic
agitation throughout the world.  He was a terrible monster.  The loss of him
was a good thing.  Graham.


>Ed Leafed wrote:
>>  Believers in the pre-emptive war approach nearly always see
>> terrorism as a force without a cause: that "those people" are simply
>> violently evil by nature, and we need to eliminate them in the name
>> of self-preservation. They don't even consider the possibility that
>> they may be people like us, but whose passions have been inflamed by
>> years of suffering that opportunists there have blamed on America.
>> These opportunists have used this sentiment to build their own power
>> base, and our actions there, starting with our military presence in
>> their Holy Lands, and continuing with our unprovoked invasion of
>> Iraq, have only served to validate the rantings of these
>> opportunists. Now these opportunists look wise, as we have behaved
>> exactly as they said we would, so the people there see them as
>> legitimate, and they are now attracting more and more people to their
>> cause every day as a result.
>>
>>
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RE: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Graham Dobson]

>
>   Oh, so you must have been opposed to the removal of Saddam, since  
>anyone with even a bit of knowledge of the region knew that only his  
>ruthlessness was able to hold together that unstable mix of divergent  
>interests. All military assessments before the invasion agreed that  
>it would take a very strong military presence to maintain the order  
>that Saddam was able to keep.
>

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RE: [OT] Tokyo Rose

[Graham Dobson]

>
>Why do you think it would take a "strong Sunni" leader to unify Iraq.

Because that's what is lacking in the current equation.  Iraq has to be
composed of the real representation of all the three main groups, Kurd,
Sunni and Shiite. But it will take a strong Sunni political movement to end
the insurgency (and further isolate the jihadis who belong to no community
in Iraq).   Graham.



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