Note to Stefan and others on Accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I just attempted Stefan's suggestion, from 10.0, to 10.2.  I can confirm it 
doesn't work.  Once I deleted the AAX plugins alias, literally every single 
one of my plugins went bye bye.


Thank God I still have the 10.0 DMG around.  It's not the most ideal, but at 
least it still uses RTas.  They must a switched in 10.1, which I have no 
experience with.  All I got is either 10.0, which kind of ish works, or 10.2 
which apparently doesn't work worth a crap.


Thanks for the suggestion, but I for one, confirm it doesn't work, unless I 
did something wrong?  Do tell?


I unchecked the box for Avid effects, and then in Aplications/Avid/Protools 
I deleted the entire AAX Plugins alias.


Chris.



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

OK, Stefan.  I'll try it then.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Stefan Albertshauser" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1

Best wishes

Stefan
Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland:

I don't see that alias.  Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this 
only in 10.2?


If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again.  Any guinepigs 
on here willing to try?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Stefan Albertshauser" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


Hi,

It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an 
alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where 
the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro 
tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else.


If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the 
only workaround, we have at the moment.


If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
works, there will be another possibility, we have.


Best wishes

StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:


Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from 
pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.

Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
thx,
Ronald






Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Stefan Albertshauser
Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1

Best wishes

Stefan
Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland:

> I don't see that alias.  Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this 
> only in 10.2?
> 
> If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again.  Any guinepigs on 
> here willing to try?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Stefan Albertshauser" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
> and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
> plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias 
> called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx 
> plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you 
> will find the old plugins and nothing else.
> 
> If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
> program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the 
> only workaround, we have at the moment.
> 
> If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
> parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
> remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
> device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
> works, there will be another possibility, we have.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
>> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
>> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
>> thx,
>> Ronald
> 



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Personally, I had an Alan Heath interface for a short time, I don't remember 
which one, it was like an... I wanna say X60, or something?  I don't 
remember... anyway, that that sucker was a beast in a half to figure out.  I 
never really got my head around it, and wound up returnning it.  Maybe I 
just got a product that was too complex, but I've heard from tons of peole 
that even for sighted people, Alan Heath has a reputation for not being very 
user friendly.  The few times I called their support, they were not very 
friendly.  It wasn't so much they were rude, as much as they expected I knew 
what I was doing, and their tone of oice suggested they thought i was stupid 
for asking the things I was.


I won't deal with them again, frankly.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "The Oreo Monster" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


You could always find a dealer on ebay willing to ship to the netherlands. 
Of course you loos all Local Avid Support and warranty most likely. Check 
out the Allen & Heath ZED R16. Not full control surface but its its a full 
on analog mixer with 18x18 i/o via firewire and can do more with adat added 
in. The control surface features should be enough for basic audtomations and 
effects controls but its not motorized faders. Also you will need a midi to 
HUI  translator as it doesn't support the PT Standard for control surfaces 
natively. Just a suggestion, may be less expensive than the 003 over there.

On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:

Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands 
with no luck.

And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices.
best,
Ronald

Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:

Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar 
center and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell 
you.  I would do some searching and even check at your local stores as 
they are buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just 
make sure to install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you 
do upgrade.  Nick Gawronski


On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hey Nick
Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal 
ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my 
spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control 
surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to 
pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course 
I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't 
available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass.

Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed.
thanks
Ronald
Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:

Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to 
make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should 
get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok 
you should be fine.  I bought the software with no control surface as I 
wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface 
but everyone is different.  I will tell you this just because you buy a 
control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is 
the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 
with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 
10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 
10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my 
default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so 
don't think it takes forever to do.  I don't like getting versions of 
software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro 
tools a
t the guitar center in my local area.  If you could tell us what you are 
trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro 
tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. 
I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the 
hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive.  I got 
this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses.  Hope 
this helps.  Nick Gawronski


On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from 
pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real 
story?

thx,
Ronald













Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
My biggest issue with PT 10 aside the accessibility, is, I've got a white 
stocked 13 inch mid 2010 macbook.  It's not even a macbook Pro.  It's just 
the standard white pollie carbon.  It's a fantastic system, but I only have 
2 gigs of ram.  Lion takes at least 1 of that, if not more.  SL wasn't much 
better.  My question is, every time I launch pt 10, throwing the build .0, 
or .2 aside, regardless which one, I get an error that my physical ram is 
running low.  I barely can afford my rent each month, let alone buying more 
ram, forget paying to then also have it installed for me.  There is! a check 
box to not show that screen again, but if I check it, it doesn't go away. 
The next time I open PT up, it pops right back up again.  Maybe I am low on 
ram, and for more complex projects, you may as well forget it.  like, Kevin, 
the session you sent me of It Takes Time, for instance, and no, I can't send 
that to you guys, as it's copy written, but generally, my mac puked and 
choked when I tried openning it.


So, yeah, I never had this issue in pt 9 M Powered.

I mean, ok, the ram was an issue, but at least I never got that message. 
It's getting really annoying.  If I could just get around that, some how, 
and then make sure my r tass stuff worked, I'd be willing to quit the fuss. 
If I can't get it to quit showing that darn thing via the check box, is 
there a p list file or the like I either could delete or could manually edit 
to make it not show it?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ronald van Rhijn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


Hey Nick
Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd 
en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, 
and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes 
well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always 
like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control 
surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and 
there is no real substitute in thi priceclass.

Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed.
thanks
Ronald
Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:

Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make 
sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if 
you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you 
should be fine.  I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted 
to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone 
is different.  I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface 
don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version 
that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors 
came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed 
the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything 
worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and 
set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever 
to do.  I don't like getting versions of software that only works with 
certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools at the guitar center in my 
local area.  If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help 
you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a 
PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs.  I bought a mac book pro 
and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram 
and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive.  I got this setup as I am going to 
school and this is what my school uses.  Hope this helps.  Nick Gawronski


On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from 
pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.

Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
thx,
Ronald







Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Ronald,

Do you actually try it to see if indeed this does work?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ronald van Rhijn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


Hi Stefan,
Ok now it's clear to me, this is very good news. Now we can use PT10 after 
all with accessible plugins.
Chuck wrote btw rtas will be history in PT11. Well, that's for a later 
concern.

thanks again,
Ronald

Op 7 jun. 2012, om 19:50 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven:


Hi,

It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your 
pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same 
thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any 
plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, 
you can restore.


Thanks

Stefan
Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:


Dear Stefan,
Thanks for the information, but have two
questions about it.
1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be 
available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins 
supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less 
plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones?
2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the 
same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, 
waht does it exactly doe?

thanks,Ronald
Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende 
geschreven:



Hi,

It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS 
Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the 
old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find 
an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, 
where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then 
launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else.


If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the 
installation program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is 
unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment.


If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
works, there will be another possibility, we have.


Best wishes

StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:


Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from 
pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real 
story?

thx,
Ronald










Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

This is also true, but again, I'm not seeing that alias.

I assume that's cause I have 10.0 on here nad not 10.2.

Stefan, where are the r tas plugins stored?  Would it be something where we 
could back them up, then somehow in p t 11 once here, we could delete the 
AAX then paste those old ones back over, or will the new arcutecture not let 
uws do that.


It's a real poor man's way, but, hey, if it works...

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Stefan Albertshauser" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


Hi,

It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your 
pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same 
thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any 
plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, 
you can restore.


Thanks

Stefan
Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:


Dear Stefan,
Thanks for the information, but have two
questions about it.
1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be 
available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins 
supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less 
plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones?
2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the 
same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, 
waht does it exactly doe?

thanks,Ronald
 Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende 
geschreven:



Hi,

It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS 
Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the 
old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find 
an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, 
where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch 
pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else.


If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is 
the only workaround, we have at the moment.


If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
works, there will be another possibility, we have.


Best wishes

StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:


Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from 
pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real 
story?

thx,
Ronald








Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Ronald,

I'm glad you caught that, as I a little buzzed right now from a few drinks. 
LOL!  I didn't even think about that, but you have a real valid point here.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ronald van Rhijn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


Dear Stefan,
Thanks for the information, but have two
questions about it.
1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. 
Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with 
pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of 
the loss of the aax ones?
2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the 
same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht 
does it exactly doe?

thanks,Ronald
 Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende 
geschreven:



Hi,

It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an 
alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where 
the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro 
tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else.


If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the 
only workaround, we have at the moment.


If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
works, there will be another possibility, we have.


Best wishes

StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:


Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from 
pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.

Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
thx,
Ronald






Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, I agree with you for now, on the work arounds option, but, that really 
shouldn't be up to us to fix their problems, and two, that's all great but what 
about v11.  If R Tass goes away, then we're screwed most likely as then those 
work arounds may or may not, and probably won't work.  Again, I'm only 
assuming, and you know what they say assume makes of you and me.  LOL!  
Ultimately, I think they need to productive listen more to feedback than 
working on a new version and chucking all feedback from before.  Where's the 
small little Degi design we all grew to love?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Stefan Albertshauser 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


  Hi, I agree, but we have to go two ways: Action and workarounds, just to be 
productive. 

  Remember, how long it took to fight the accessibility issue, as we have it at 
the moment. And the control surface option will work with both plugin formats.


  StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 18:27 schrieb CHUCK REICHEL:


Hi Stefan,
rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :)
The time is now for action! :)


YMMV





CHUCK REICHEL
soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
www.SoundPictureRecording.com
In GOD I Trust


On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote:


  Hi,

  It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS 
Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias 
called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx 
plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will 
find the old plugins and nothing else. 

  If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only 
workaround, we have at the moment. 

  If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" 
is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't 
test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be 
another possibility, we have.

  Best wishes

  StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:


Hi guys,

I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from 
pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.

Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real 
story?

thx,

Ronald








Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh, Gr'r'r'r'r'r'rate!  Just the thing I needed to hear!  They're already 
working on v11 and haven't even gotten their crap together in 10.2, and in 11 
it's gonna be gone?  You know, I am very slowly beginning to get convinced to 
go back to Sonar and say to hell with p t, if they keep this up.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: CHUCK REICHEL 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


  Hi Stefan,
  rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :)
  The time is now for action! :)


  YMMV





  CHUCK REICHEL
  soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
  www.SoundPictureRecording.com
  In GOD I Trust


  On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote:


Hi,

It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, 
go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX 
plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. 
Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old 
plugins and nothing else. 

If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only 
workaround, we have at the moment. 

If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" 
is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't 
test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be 
another possibility, we have.

Best wishes

StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:


  Hi guys,

  I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from 
pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.

  Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?

  thx,

  Ronald






Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I don't see that alias.  Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this 
only in 10.2?


If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again.  Any guinepigs on 
here willing to try?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Stefan Albertshauser" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility


Hi,

It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias 
called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx 
plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you 
will find the old plugins and nothing else.


If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the 
only workaround, we have at the moment.


If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
works, there will be another possibility, we have.


Best wishes

StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:


Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.

Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
thx,
Ronald




Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread The Oreo Monster
You could always find a dealer on ebay willing to ship to the netherlands. Of 
course you loos all Local Avid Support and warranty most likely. Check out the 
Allen & Heath ZED R16. Not full control surface but its its a full on analog 
mixer with 18x18 i/o via firewire and can do more with adat added in. The 
control surface features should be enough for basic audtomations and effects 
controls but its not motorized faders. Also you will need a midi to HUI  
translator as it doesn't support the PT Standard for control surfaces natively. 
Just a suggestion, may be less expensive than the 003 over there.
On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:

> Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with 
> no luck.
> And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices.
> best,
> Ronald
> 
> Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center 
>> and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you.  I 
>> would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are 
>> buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to 
>> install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade.  
>> Nick Gawronski
>> 
>> On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
>>> Hey Nick
>>> Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd 
>>> en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare 
>>> time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all 
>>> goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I 
>>> always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a 
>>> control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available 
>>> anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass.
>>> Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed.
>>> thanks
>>> Ronald
>>> Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
 Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make 
 sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if 
 you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you 
 should be fine.  I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted 
 to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone 
 is different.  I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface 
 don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version 
 that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors 
 came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed 
 the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything 
 worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and 
 set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever 
 to do.  I don't like getting versions of software that only works with 
 certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a
>> t the guitar center in my local area.  If you could tell us what you are 
>> trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro 
>> tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs.  I 
>> bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid 
>> drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive.  I got this 
>> setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses.  Hope this 
>> helps.  Nick Gawronski
 
 On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from 
> pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
> thx,
> Ronald
> 
 
>>> 
>> 
> 



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, Do the units you have been checking for have a copy of pro tools 
shipped with them as that is probably what the main cost you are paying 
for?  I think you could just find the digi 003 on it's own with no 
software for a lot less money.  I do know other devices like the digi 
003 exist that have automation in them so you could look around.  Nick 
Gawronski


On 6/7/2012 3:58 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with no 
luck.
And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices.
best,
Ronald

Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:


Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center and 
I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you.  I would do 
some searching and even check at your local stores as they are buyable and mine 
was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to install the drivers 
for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade.  Nick Gawronski

On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hey Nick
Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en 
external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and 
for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, 
slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to 
have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very 
convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real 
substitute in thi priceclass.
Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed.
thanks
Ronald
Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:


Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure 
everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the 
boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine.  I 
bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a 
little before I got a control surface but everyone is different.  I will tell 
you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier 
version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with 
as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had 
pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro 
tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my 
default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't 
think it takes forever to do.  I don't like getting versions of software that 
only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools

a

t the guitar center in my local area.  If you could tell us what you are trying 
to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and 
feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs.  I bought a mac 
book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of 
ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive.  I got this setup as I am going to 
school and this is what my school uses.  Hope this helps.  Nick Gawronski


On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not 
everybody seems to have the same experiences.
Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
thx,
Ronald













Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with no 
luck.
And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices.
best,
Ronald

Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:

> Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center 
> and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you.  I 
> would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are 
> buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to 
> install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade.  Nick 
> Gawronski
> 
> On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
>> Hey Nick
>> Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd 
>> en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, 
>> and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes 
>> well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always 
>> like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control 
>> surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and 
>> there is no real substitute in thi priceclass.
>> Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed.
>> thanks
>> Ronald
>> Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make 
>>> sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you 
>>> buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be 
>>> fine.  I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn 
>>> the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is 
>>> different.  I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface 
>>> don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that 
>>> that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with 
>>> pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 
>>> 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked 
>>> fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of 
>>> the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do.  I 
>>> don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain 
>>> hardware so bought the normal pro tools a
> t the guitar center in my local area.  If you could tell us what you are 
> trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro 
> tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs.  I 
> bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid 
> drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive.  I got this setup 
> as I am going to school and this is what my school uses.  Hope this helps.  
> Nick Gawronski
>>> 
>>> On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
 Hi guys,
 I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
 Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
 Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
 thx,
 Ronald
 
>>> 
>> 
> 



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar 
center and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will 
sell you.  I would do some searching and even check at your local stores 
as they are buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. 
Just make sure to install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's 
if you do upgrade.  Nick Gawronski


On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hey Nick
Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en 
external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and 
for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, 
slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to 
have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very 
convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real 
substitute in thi priceclass.
Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed.
thanks
Ronald
Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:


Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure 
everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the 
boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine.  I 
bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a 
little before I got a control surface but everyone is different.  I will tell 
you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier 
version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with 
as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had 
pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro 
tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my 
default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't 
think it takes forever to do.  I don't like getting versions of software that 
only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a

t the guitar center in my local area.  If you could tell us what you are trying 
to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and 
feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs.  I bought a mac 
book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of 
ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive.  I got this setup as I am going to 
school and this is what my school uses.  Hope this helps.  Nick Gawronski


On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not 
everybody seems to have the same experiences.
Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
thx,
Ronald









Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hey Nick
Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en 
external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and 
for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, 
slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to 
have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very 
convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real 
substitute in thi priceclass.
Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed.
thanks
Ronald  
Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven:

> Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure 
> everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy 
> the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine.  
> I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the 
> software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different.  
> I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that 
> the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control 
> surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 
> and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that 
> came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the 
> digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very 
> easy task so don't think it takes forever to do.  I don't like getting 
> versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the 
> normal pro tools at the guitar center in my local area.  If you could tell us 
> what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required 
> to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your 
> needs.  I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the 
> hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive.  I got 
> this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses.  Hope 
> this helps.  Nick Gawronski
> 
> On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
>> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
>> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
>> thx,
>> Ronald
>> 
> 



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make 
sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if 
you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you 
should be fine.  I bought the software with no control surface as I 
wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but 
everyone is different.  I will tell you this just because you buy a 
control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is 
the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 
with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 
10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 
10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my 
default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so 
don't think it takes forever to do.  I don't like getting versions of 
software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro 
tools at the guitar center in my local area.  If you could tell us what 
you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required 
to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for 
your needs.  I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive 
upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external 
ESATA drive.  I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what 
my school uses.  Hope this helps.  Nick Gawronski


On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not 
everybody seems to have the same experiences.
Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
thx,
Ronald





Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi Stefan,
Ok now it's clear to me, this is very good news. Now we can use PT10 after all 
with accessible plugins.
Chuck wrote btw rtas will be history in PT11. Well, that's for a later concern.
thanks again,
Ronald
 
Op 7 jun. 2012, om 19:50 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven:

> Hi,
> 
> It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your 
> pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same 
> thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any 
> plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, you 
> can restore.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Stefan
> Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:
> 
>> Dear Stefan,
>> Thanks for the information, but have two
>> questions about it.
>> 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. 
>> Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with 
>> pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of 
>> the loss of the aax ones?
>> 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the 
>> same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht 
>> does it exactly doe?
>> thanks,Ronald
>> Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
>>> and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
>>> plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an 
>>> alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where 
>>> the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro 
>>> tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. 
>>> 
>>> If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
>>> program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the 
>>> only workaround, we have at the moment. 
>>> 
>>> If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
>>> parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
>>> remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
>>> device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
>>> works, there will be another possibility, we have.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:
>>> 
 Hi guys,
 I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
 Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
 Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
 thx,
 Ronald
>>> 
>> 
> 



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Stefan Albertshauser
Hi,

It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your pro 
tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same thing 
happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any plugins 
installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, you can 
restore.

Thanks

Stefan
Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:

> Dear Stefan,
> Thanks for the information, but have two
> questions about it.
> 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. 
> Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with 
> pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of 
> the loss of the aax ones?
> 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the 
> same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht 
> does it exactly doe?
> thanks,Ronald
>  Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
>> and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
>> plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias 
>> called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx 
>> plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you 
>> will find the old plugins and nothing else. 
>> 
>> If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
>> program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the 
>> only workaround, we have at the moment. 
>> 
>> If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
>> parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
>> remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
>> device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
>> works, there will be another possibility, we have.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:
>> 
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
>>> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
>>> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
>>> thx,
>>> Ronald
>> 
> 



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Dear Stefan,
Thanks for the information, but have two
questions about it.
1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. 
Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with 
pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of 
the loss of the aax ones?
2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same 
thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it 
exactly doe?
thanks,Ronald
  Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven:

> Hi,
> 
> It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
> and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
> plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias 
> called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx 
> plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you 
> will find the old plugins and nothing else. 
> 
> If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
> program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the 
> only workaround, we have at the moment. 
> 
> If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
> parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
> remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
> device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
> works, there will be another possibility, we have.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
>> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
>> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
>> thx,
>> Ronald
> 



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Stefan Albertshauser
Hi, I agree, but we have to go two ways: Action and workarounds, just to be 
productive. 
Remember, how long it took to fight the accessibility issue, as we have it at 
the moment. And the control surface option will work with both plugin formats.

StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 18:27 schrieb CHUCK REICHEL:

> Hi Stefan,
> rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :)
> The time is now for action! :)
> 
> YMMV
>  
> 
> 
> CHUCK REICHEL
> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
> www.SoundPictureRecording.com
> In GOD I Trust
> 
> On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
>> and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
>> plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias 
>> called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx 
>> plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you 
>> will find the old plugins and nothing else. 
>> 
>> If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
>> program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the 
>> only workaround, we have at the moment. 
>> 
>> If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
>> parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
>> remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
>> device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
>> works, there will be another possibility, we have.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:
>> 
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
>>> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
>>> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
>>> thx,
>>> Ronald
>> 
> 



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Stefan,
rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :)
The time is now for action! :)

YMMV
 


CHUCK REICHEL
soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
www.SoundPictureRecording.com
In GOD I Trust

On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format 
> and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old 
> plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias 
> called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx 
> plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you 
> will find the old plugins and nothing else. 
> 
> If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
> program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the 
> only workaround, we have at the moment. 
> 
> If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
> parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro 
> remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the 
> device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it 
> works, there will be another possibility, we have.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
>> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
>> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
>> thx,
>> Ronald
> 



Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Stefan Albertshauser
Hi,

It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and 
others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go 
to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX 
plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. 
Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old 
plugins and nothing else. 

If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation 
program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only 
workaround, we have at the moment. 

If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin 
parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" 
is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't 
test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be 
another possibility, we have.

Best wishes

StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn:

> Hi guys,
> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. 
> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences.
> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
> thx,
> Ronald



Anybody up for a conference today?

2012-06-07 Thread Sonar Switcher
I thought since there has been a lot of postings lately if anybody
would like to have a conference today as per usual Thursday's that we
can all chat a bit. I believe Mike said in an earlier posting he
wouldn't have a problem with us using the same number but if Mike is
reading this please chime in. We can make it a very laid back informal
conference this afternoon if there are any takers.


Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility

2012-06-07 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi guys,
I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not 
everybody seems to have the same experiences.
Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story?
thx,
Ronald

Re: Controlling plugin parameters with a control surgace

2012-06-07 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Eric,

Heres the short story!
Make sure your midi track is displaying notes! :)
Tab to get your midi track selection.
Now go to the event menu.
open up event operations.
vo space on change velocity.
Hit tab 1 time to hi light velocity field.
Now punch in the new velocity on the num pad.
Hit enter bang!  the midi selection is changed to what you entered on the num 
pad! :)
Jason reminded myself the other day that the velocity is also displayed in the 
edit window beside the counters also just like pt 5.1! ;)


YMMV

enjoy




CHUCK REICHEL
soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
www.SoundPictureRecording.com
In GOD I Trust

On Jun 6, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Eric Lambier wrote:

> Hey Chuck!
> 
> I've read a few posts you've made re midi and am thankful for them. They've 
> helped me out imensely. 
> II've got a question for ya. I can tab and listen do my midi track but don't 
> know how to see where volocity is or note duration. I'd like to be able to 
> change these in step time. Any ideas?
> 
> Many thanks!
> 
> Eric
> On 2012-06-05, at 8:52 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jon,
>> I use a control surface every day!
>> Just stay with the default map!
>> Contact me off list if you need some of the common maps? :)
>> 
>> 
>> CHUCK REICHEL
>> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com
>> In GOD I Trust
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Jon Solitro wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone use a control surface to control plugin parameters? If so, do 
>>> you just have to use the default map or have you found a way to program a 
>>> custom map?
>> 
>