Note to Stefan and others on Accessibility
I just attempted Stefan's suggestion, from 10.0, to 10.2. I can confirm it doesn't work. Once I deleted the AAX plugins alias, literally every single one of my plugins went bye bye. Thank God I still have the 10.0 DMG around. It's not the most ideal, but at least it still uses RTas. They must a switched in 10.1, which I have no experience with. All I got is either 10.0, which kind of ish works, or 10.2 which apparently doesn't work worth a crap. Thanks for the suggestion, but I for one, confirm it doesn't work, unless I did something wrong? Do tell? I unchecked the box for Avid effects, and then in Aplications/Avid/Protools I deleted the entire AAX Plugins alias. Chris.
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Stefan Albertshauser" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Stefan Albertshauser" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: > I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this > only in 10.2? > > If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on > here willing to try? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Stefan Albertshauser" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility > > > Hi, > > It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format > and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old > plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias > called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx > plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you > will find the old plugins and nothing else. > > If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation > program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the > only workaround, we have at the moment. > > If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin > parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro > remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the > device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it > works, there will be another possibility, we have. > > Best wishes > > StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: > >> Hi guys, >> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. >> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. >> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? >> thx, >> Ronald >
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Personally, I had an Alan Heath interface for a short time, I don't remember which one, it was like an... I wanna say X60, or something? I don't remember... anyway, that that sucker was a beast in a half to figure out. I never really got my head around it, and wound up returnning it. Maybe I just got a product that was too complex, but I've heard from tons of peole that even for sighted people, Alan Heath has a reputation for not being very user friendly. The few times I called their support, they were not very friendly. It wasn't so much they were rude, as much as they expected I knew what I was doing, and their tone of oice suggested they thought i was stupid for asking the things I was. I won't deal with them again, frankly. Chris. - Original Message - From: "The Oreo Monster" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility You could always find a dealer on ebay willing to ship to the netherlands. Of course you loos all Local Avid Support and warranty most likely. Check out the Allen & Heath ZED R16. Not full control surface but its its a full on analog mixer with 18x18 i/o via firewire and can do more with adat added in. The control surface features should be enough for basic audtomations and effects controls but its not motorized faders. Also you will need a midi to HUI translator as it doesn't support the PT Standard for control surfaces natively. Just a suggestion, may be less expensive than the 003 over there. On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with no luck. And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices. best, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you. I would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a t the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
My biggest issue with PT 10 aside the accessibility, is, I've got a white stocked 13 inch mid 2010 macbook. It's not even a macbook Pro. It's just the standard white pollie carbon. It's a fantastic system, but I only have 2 gigs of ram. Lion takes at least 1 of that, if not more. SL wasn't much better. My question is, every time I launch pt 10, throwing the build .0, or .2 aside, regardless which one, I get an error that my physical ram is running low. I barely can afford my rent each month, let alone buying more ram, forget paying to then also have it installed for me. There is! a check box to not show that screen again, but if I check it, it doesn't go away. The next time I open PT up, it pops right back up again. Maybe I am low on ram, and for more complex projects, you may as well forget it. like, Kevin, the session you sent me of It Takes Time, for instance, and no, I can't send that to you guys, as it's copy written, but generally, my mac puked and choked when I tried openning it. So, yeah, I never had this issue in pt 9 M Powered. I mean, ok, the ram was an issue, but at least I never got that message. It's getting really annoying. If I could just get around that, some how, and then make sure my r tass stuff worked, I'd be willing to quit the fuss. If I can't get it to quit showing that darn thing via the check box, is there a p list file or the like I either could delete or could manually edit to make it not show it? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ronald van Rhijn" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools at the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Ronald, Do you actually try it to see if indeed this does work? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ronald van Rhijn" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi Stefan, Ok now it's clear to me, this is very good news. Now we can use PT10 after all with accessible plugins. Chuck wrote btw rtas will be history in PT11. Well, that's for a later concern. thanks again, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 19:50 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, you can restore. Thanks Stefan Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Dear Stefan, Thanks for the information, but have two questions about it. 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones? 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it exactly doe? thanks,Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
This is also true, but again, I'm not seeing that alias. I assume that's cause I have 10.0 on here nad not 10.2. Stefan, where are the r tas plugins stored? Would it be something where we could back them up, then somehow in p t 11 once here, we could delete the AAX then paste those old ones back over, or will the new arcutecture not let uws do that. It's a real poor man's way, but, hey, if it works... Chris. - Original Message - From: "Stefan Albertshauser" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, you can restore. Thanks Stefan Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Dear Stefan, Thanks for the information, but have two questions about it. 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones? 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it exactly doe? thanks,Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Ronald, I'm glad you caught that, as I a little buzzed right now from a few drinks. LOL! I didn't even think about that, but you have a real valid point here. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ronald van Rhijn" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Dear Stefan, Thanks for the information, but have two questions about it. 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones? 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it exactly doe? thanks,Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
OK, I agree with you for now, on the work arounds option, but, that really shouldn't be up to us to fix their problems, and two, that's all great but what about v11. If R Tass goes away, then we're screwed most likely as then those work arounds may or may not, and probably won't work. Again, I'm only assuming, and you know what they say assume makes of you and me. LOL! Ultimately, I think they need to productive listen more to feedback than working on a new version and chucking all feedback from before. Where's the small little Degi design we all grew to love? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, I agree, but we have to go two ways: Action and workarounds, just to be productive. Remember, how long it took to fight the accessibility issue, as we have it at the moment. And the control surface option will work with both plugin formats. StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 18:27 schrieb CHUCK REICHEL: Hi Stefan, rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :) The time is now for action! :) YMMV CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Oh, Gr'r'r'r'r'r'rate! Just the thing I needed to hear! They're already working on v11 and haven't even gotten their crap together in 10.2, and in 11 it's gonna be gone? You know, I am very slowly beginning to get convinced to go back to Sonar and say to hell with p t, if they keep this up. Chris. - Original Message - From: CHUCK REICHEL To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi Stefan, rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :) The time is now for action! :) YMMV CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Stefan Albertshauser" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
You could always find a dealer on ebay willing to ship to the netherlands. Of course you loos all Local Avid Support and warranty most likely. Check out the Allen & Heath ZED R16. Not full control surface but its its a full on analog mixer with 18x18 i/o via firewire and can do more with adat added in. The control surface features should be enough for basic audtomations and effects controls but its not motorized faders. Also you will need a midi to HUI translator as it doesn't support the PT Standard for control surfaces natively. Just a suggestion, may be less expensive than the 003 over there. On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: > Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with > no luck. > And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices. > best, > Ronald > > Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: > >> Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center >> and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you. I >> would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are >> buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to >> install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade. >> Nick Gawronski >> >> On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: >>> Hey Nick >>> Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd >>> en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare >>> time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all >>> goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I >>> always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a >>> control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available >>> anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. >>> Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. >>> thanks >>> Ronald >>> Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: >>> Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a >> t the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are >> trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro >> tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I >> bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid >> drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this >> setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this >> helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: > Hi guys, > I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from > pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. > Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? > thx, > Ronald > >>> >> >
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, Do the units you have been checking for have a copy of pro tools shipped with them as that is probably what the main cost you are paying for? I think you could just find the digi 003 on it's own with no software for a lot less money. I do know other devices like the digi 003 exist that have automation in them so you could look around. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 3:58 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with no luck. And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices. best, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you. I would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a t the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Nick, believe me I asked about every store over here in the Netherlands with no luck. And on the second hand market they are asking terrible high prices. best, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 21:51 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: > Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center > and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you. I > would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are > buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to > install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade. Nick > Gawronski > > On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: >> Hey Nick >> Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd >> en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, >> and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes >> well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always >> like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control >> surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and >> there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. >> Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. >> thanks >> Ronald >> Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: >> >>> Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make >>> sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you >>> buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be >>> fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn >>> the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is >>> different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface >>> don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that >>> that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with >>> pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi >>> 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked >>> fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of >>> the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I >>> don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain >>> hardware so bought the normal pro tools a > t the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are > trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro > tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I > bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid > drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup > as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. > Nick Gawronski >>> >>> On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald >>> >> >
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, Well that is not totally true as I found mine on line at guitar center and I am sure other dealers have over stockage that they will sell you. I would do some searching and even check at your local stores as they are buyable and mine was like brand new so you can find them. Just make sure to install the drivers for it on the pro tools 10 DVD's if you do upgrade. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 1:44 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools a t the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hey Nick Well, I have pt9 running on my Mac Pro (latest model) 8gb ram, internal ssd en external firewire etc etc. Although I am still learning in my spare time, and for the same reason still haven't bought a control surface, all goes well, slowly, but well. I am thinking of upgrading to pt10 cause I always like to have the latest version available. Of course I know a control surface is very convinient but the Digi 003 wasn't available anymore and there is no real substitute in thi priceclass. Stefan's methods to get rid of the aa x plugins sounds very nice indeed. thanks Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 20:27 heeft Nick Gawronski het volgende geschreven: > Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure > everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy > the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. > I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the > software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. > I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that > the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control > surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 > and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that > came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the > digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very > easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting > versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the > normal pro tools at the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us > what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required > to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your > needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the > hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got > this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope > this helps. Nick Gawronski > > On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: >> Hi guys, >> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. >> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. >> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? >> thx, >> Ronald >> >
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, I reinstalled pro tools 10 using the complete uninstall just to make sure everything was removed and if you get 10.0 which you should get if you buy the boxed version which comes with a pre authorized ilok you should be fine. I bought the software with no control surface as I wanted to learn the software a little before I got a control surface but everyone is different. I will tell you this just because you buy a control surface don't assume that the earlier version of pro tools is the only version that that control surface works with as my digi 003 with moving fadors came with pro tools LE 8 and I already had pro tools 10 so just installed the digi 003 drivers that came with the pro tools 10 DVD's and everything worked fine once I setup the digi 003 as my default playback engine and set all of the IO paths a very easy task so don't think it takes forever to do. I don't like getting versions of software that only works with certain hardware so bought the normal pro tools at the guitar center in my local area. If you could tell us what you are trying to do we could help you more as if you are not required to use pro tools and feel safer on a PC then perhaps sonar is better for your needs. I bought a mac book pro and had both the hard drive upgraded to the hybrid drive and 8 GB of ram and have a 4 TB external ESATA drive. I got this setup as I am going to school and this is what my school uses. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 6/7/2012 10:18 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi Stefan, Ok now it's clear to me, this is very good news. Now we can use PT10 after all with accessible plugins. Chuck wrote btw rtas will be history in PT11. Well, that's for a later concern. thanks again, Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 19:50 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: > Hi, > > It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your > pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same > thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any > plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, you > can restore. > > Thanks > > Stefan > Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: > >> Dear Stefan, >> Thanks for the information, but have two >> questions about it. >> 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. >> Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with >> pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of >> the loss of the aax ones? >> 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the >> same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht >> does it exactly doe? >> thanks,Ronald >> Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format >>> and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old >>> plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an >>> alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where >>> the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro >>> tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. >>> >>> If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation >>> program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the >>> only workaround, we have at the moment. >>> >>> If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin >>> parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro >>> remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the >>> device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it >>> works, there will be another possibility, we have. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: >>> Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald >>> >> >
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, It means, that you have access to the plugins, that were shipped with your pro tools, but in the Rtas format. The new plugins are deleted. The same thing happens in the second stepp I mentioned, because there aren't any plugins installed. Try it out, make a backup and if you aren't satisfied, you can restore. Thanks Stefan Am 07.06.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: > Dear Stefan, > Thanks for the information, but have two > questions about it. > 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. > Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with > pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of > the loss of the aax ones? > 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the > same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht > does it exactly doe? > thanks,Ronald > Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: > >> Hi, >> >> It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format >> and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old >> plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias >> called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx >> plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you >> will find the old plugins and nothing else. >> >> If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation >> program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the >> only workaround, we have at the moment. >> >> If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin >> parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro >> remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the >> device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it >> works, there will be another possibility, we have. >> >> Best wishes >> >> StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. >>> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. >>> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? >>> thx, >>> Ronald >> >
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Dear Stefan, Thanks for the information, but have two questions about it. 1 when you say delete the aax plugins, only the old ones will be available. Does this mean I will have access to all the available plugins supplied with pro Tools but in the old format? Or am I going to have less plugins cause of the loss of the aax ones? 2 when updating I have to uncheck the Avid effects you say, does this the same thing as above mentioned, not installing the aax versions? If not, waht does it exactly doe? thanks,Ronald Op 7 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Stefan Albertshauser het volgende geschreven: > Hi, > > It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format > and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old > plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias > called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx > plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you > will find the old plugins and nothing else. > > If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation > program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the > only workaround, we have at the moment. > > If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin > parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro > remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the > device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it > works, there will be another possibility, we have. > > Best wishes > > StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: > >> Hi guys, >> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. >> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. >> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? >> thx, >> Ronald >
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, I agree, but we have to go two ways: Action and workarounds, just to be productive. Remember, how long it took to fight the accessibility issue, as we have it at the moment. And the control surface option will work with both plugin formats. StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 18:27 schrieb CHUCK REICHEL: > Hi Stefan, > rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :) > The time is now for action! :) > > YMMV > > > > CHUCK REICHEL > soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com > www.SoundPictureRecording.com > In GOD I Trust > > On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format >> and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old >> plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias >> called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx >> plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you >> will find the old plugins and nothing else. >> >> If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation >> program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the >> only workaround, we have at the moment. >> >> If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin >> parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro >> remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the >> device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it >> works, there will be another possibility, we have. >> >> Best wishes >> >> StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. >>> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. >>> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? >>> thx, >>> Ronald >> >
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi Stefan, rtas option goes By By in PT 11! :) The time is now for action! :) YMMV CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: > Hi, > > It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format > and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old > plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias > called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx > plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you > will find the old plugins and nothing else. > > If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation > program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the > only workaround, we have at the moment. > > If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin > parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro > remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the > device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it > works, there will be another possibility, we have. > > Best wishes > > StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: > >> Hi guys, >> I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. >> Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. >> Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? >> thx, >> Ronald >
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called "AAX plugins". Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called "Avid Effects" or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called "pro remote" is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: > Hi guys, > I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. > Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. > Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? > thx, > Ronald
Anybody up for a conference today?
I thought since there has been a lot of postings lately if anybody would like to have a conference today as per usual Thursday's that we can all chat a bit. I believe Mike said in an earlier posting he wouldn't have a problem with us using the same number but if Mike is reading this please chime in. We can make it a very laid back informal conference this afternoon if there are any takers.
Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald
Re: Controlling plugin parameters with a control surgace
Hi Eric, Heres the short story! Make sure your midi track is displaying notes! :) Tab to get your midi track selection. Now go to the event menu. open up event operations. vo space on change velocity. Hit tab 1 time to hi light velocity field. Now punch in the new velocity on the num pad. Hit enter bang! the midi selection is changed to what you entered on the num pad! :) Jason reminded myself the other day that the velocity is also displayed in the edit window beside the counters also just like pt 5.1! ;) YMMV enjoy CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Jun 6, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Eric Lambier wrote: > Hey Chuck! > > I've read a few posts you've made re midi and am thankful for them. They've > helped me out imensely. > II've got a question for ya. I can tab and listen do my midi track but don't > know how to see where volocity is or note duration. I'd like to be able to > change these in step time. Any ideas? > > Many thanks! > > Eric > On 2012-06-05, at 8:52 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: > >> Hi Jon, >> I use a control surface every day! >> Just stay with the default map! >> Contact me off list if you need some of the common maps? :) >> >> >> CHUCK REICHEL >> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com >> www.SoundPictureRecording.com >> In GOD I Trust >> >> On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Jon Solitro wrote: >> >>> Does anyone use a control surface to control plugin parameters? If so, do >>> you just have to use the default map or have you found a way to program a >>> custom map? >> >