What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on this server message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on this server message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. --
RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on this server message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- -- --
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on this server message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- -- -- --
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. HTH - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on this server message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- -- -- -- --
RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hey guys, Since I am getting protools, perhaps I should get the control surface along with it. Any suggestions on what to get? I might as well do this out of the gate. Sincerest Regards, Jed -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:46 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on this server message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- -- -- --
Re: Versions of protools
Hmm, I don't think version 9 itself was ever approved for Mountain Lion, was it? I can't remember… Slau On Jan 25, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Stephen Martin wrote: I thought version 9 had issues on ML as well and not just version 10 or has someone verified that counters are readable in pro tools9 under ML? On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Keep in mind that if you want to use Pro Tools 10.x for now, you'll have to be on Lion rather than Mountain Lion or else you won't be able to read counter displays among other things. Slau --
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. HTH - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on this server message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- -- -- -- -- --
RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
That is true. I have the command-8 and it doesn't have the scrub wheel. In spite of all that it is still a very nice surface. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:04 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. HTH - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on this server message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please
Key command to show tracks with data?
Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have any data? Thanks Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com
Re: Key command to show tracks with data?
Hi Nate, Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd consider these steps increasing in verification: 1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most straight-forward way. 2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session or further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where the clip resides by reading the counter display. Hope that helps, Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have any data? Thanks Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com --
RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport controls, pay, stop, etc? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. HTH - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on this server message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. --
Good control surfaces
Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed --
Re: Good control surfaces
Hi, I have the digi 003 which you can still find on line. It has 8 sliding up and down controls which move with pro tools so you can feel your levels. I like it for a new pro tools user. My digi 003 came in a box wrapped up and all. It can record in 24 bit 96 KHZ so it is a good system and some studios still use them so it is a good system for both the new and advanced user and has a control where if you have more then 8 tracks you can cycle between the tracks in banks of 8. I was at the guitar center store and they had one on display and found one on line that they were able to ship directly to my house and I always like to feel a device before I buy it. You will need to install the drivers for the device once you get it or even before you get it you can download them and I would also suggest if pro tools prompts you to upgrade the firmware on the device you do so to avoid any issues in the future. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed -- --
RE: Good control surfaces
Who makes it, digidesign? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi, I have the digi 003 which you can still find on line. It has 8 sliding up and down controls which move with pro tools so you can feel your levels. I like it for a new pro tools user. My digi 003 came in a box wrapped up and all. It can record in 24 bit 96 KHZ so it is a good system and some studios still use them so it is a good system for both the new and advanced user and has a control where if you have more then 8 tracks you can cycle between the tracks in banks of 8. I was at the guitar center store and they had one on display and found one on line that they were able to ship directly to my house and I always like to feel a device before I buy it. You will need to install the drivers for the device once you get it or even before you get it you can download them and I would also suggest if pro tools prompts you to upgrade the firmware on the device you do so to avoid any issues in the future. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed -- --
RE: Good control surfaces
Hi, Not sure of the maker if you do searches for digi 003 or go to a professional audio electronics store like the guitar center you should be able to find out all you need to know. If you are going to school like me then asking your instructors or other classmates would also be a good option. I find taking audio classes helps a lot in learning about the best methods for recording and placing microphones as I was told if you have a degree in audio engineering from a school even if you don't want to do this as a full time job it sure helps to learn from professionals who know what they are doing and have years of doing recording and mixing skills. That is by no means the only usable control surface but I like it because the moving controls as it really helps me set levels. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: Who makes it, digidesign? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi, I have the digi 003 which you can still find on line. It has 8 sliding up and down controls which move with pro tools so you can feel your levels. I like it for a new pro tools user. My digi 003 came in a box wrapped up and all. It can record in 24 bit 96 KHZ so it is a good system and some studios still use them so it is a good system for both the new and advanced user and has a control where if you have more then 8 tracks you can cycle between the tracks in banks of 8. I was at the guitar center store and they had one on display and found one on line that they were able to ship directly to my house and I always like to feel a device before I buy it. You will need to install the drivers for the device once you get it or even before you get it you can download them and I would also suggest if pro tools prompts you to upgrade the firmware on the device you do so to avoid any issues in the future. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed -- -- --
Re: Good control surfaces
I'm using the Project Mix I/O. Like the Digi003 (I think), it has 8 mic pre amps. I've not got the transport bar to work, but then I haven't tried with it much. I'm using it as both control surface, and sound module, and I think it's great. It also has the advantage of being cheap. However, it's been running for years, and hasn't got a single problem, so I'm guessing it's built to last! :-) Have fun, On 27/01/2013, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, Not sure of the maker if you do searches for digi 003 or go to a professional audio electronics store like the guitar center you should be able to find out all you need to know. If you are going to school like me then asking your instructors or other classmates would also be a good option. I find taking audio classes helps a lot in learning about the best methods for recording and placing microphones as I was told if you have a degree in audio engineering from a school even if you don't want to do this as a full time job it sure helps to learn from professionals who know what they are doing and have years of doing recording and mixing skills. That is by no means the only usable control surface but I like it because the moving controls as it really helps me set levels. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: Who makes it, digidesign? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi, I have the digi 003 which you can still find on line. It has 8 sliding up and down controls which move with pro tools so you can feel your levels. I like it for a new pro tools user. My digi 003 came in a box wrapped up and all. It can record in 24 bit 96 KHZ so it is a good system and some studios still use them so it is a good system for both the new and advanced user and has a control where if you have more then 8 tracks you can cycle between the tracks in banks of 8. I was at the guitar center store and they had one on display and found one on line that they were able to ship directly to my house and I always like to feel a device before I buy it. You will need to install the drivers for the device once you get it or even before you get it you can download them and I would also suggest if pro tools prompts you to upgrade the firmware on the device you do so to avoid any issues in the future. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed -- -- -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
RE: Good control surfaces
Wow cool, who makes that? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Norman Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:00 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces I'm using the Project Mix I/O. Like the Digi003 (I think), it has 8 mic pre amps. I've not got the transport bar to work, but then I haven't tried with it much. I'm using it as both control surface, and sound module, and I think it's great. It also has the advantage of being cheap. However, it's been running for years, and hasn't got a single problem, so I'm guessing it's built to last! :-) Have fun, On 27/01/2013, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, Not sure of the maker if you do searches for digi 003 or go to a professional audio electronics store like the guitar center you should be able to find out all you need to know. If you are going to school like me then asking your instructors or other classmates would also be a good option. I find taking audio classes helps a lot in learning about the best methods for recording and placing microphones as I was told if you have a degree in audio engineering from a school even if you don't want to do this as a full time job it sure helps to learn from professionals who know what they are doing and have years of doing recording and mixing skills. That is by no means the only usable control surface but I like it because the moving controls as it really helps me set levels. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: Who makes it, digidesign? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi, I have the digi 003 which you can still find on line. It has 8 sliding up and down controls which move with pro tools so you can feel your levels. I like it for a new pro tools user. My digi 003 came in a box wrapped up and all. It can record in 24 bit 96 KHZ so it is a good system and some studios still use them so it is a good system for both the new and advanced user and has a control where if you have more then 8 tracks you can cycle between the tracks in banks of 8. I was at the guitar center store and they had one on display and found one on line that they were able to ship directly to my house and I always like to feel a device before I buy it. You will need to install the drivers for the device once you get it or even before you get it you can download them and I would also suggest if pro tools prompts you to upgrade the firmware on the device you do so to avoid any issues in the future. Nick Gawronski Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed -- -- -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- --
Re: Key command to show tracks with data?
Another slightly dirty way to do it, if you've got an audio track with data on it, a MIDI track with MIDI on it, etc, is right click it in the track table and go to delete. If it's got stuff on it, it'll ask you to confirm. I suspect it's undoable if not, but I'm not sure. HTH, On 26/01/2013, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a reference. You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not name them as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that says, Has Data or No Data. I just have to be more aware of what tracks I have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them. Thanks - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data? Hi Nate, Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd consider these steps increasing in verification: 1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most straight-forward way. 2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session or further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where the clip resides by reading the counter display. Hope that helps, Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have any data? Thanks Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Versions of protools
hay nick thanks will try that asap thank you On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I am on pro tools 10.3 after first having installed pro tools 10.0 and when I upgraded to 10.3 deleted the AAX folder first everything inside the folder then the folder itself and the RTAS plugins worked again. Not sure if you just install 10.3 if they are included if you do this same task but just what I did. Nick Gawronski byron harden sticomu...@gmail.com wrote: hay jed, this is byron i am a new blind pro tools user, i originally pro tools 10.3, and found out that the plug-ins are not accessible. so Kevin reeves told me to go back to pro tools 10.0. now i am able to access my plug-ins. so if i were you i would just go with 10.0, and you will be just fine bro. On Jan 25, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: Hey guys, I am about to make the jump to protools and getting things together. I was planning on getting a bundled system from Sweetwater sound upon recommendation from a friend. Someone said pprotools 10 isn't too accessible? I've gotten conflicting reports. Can anyone give me some input? Thanks, Jed --
