Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[Chris Smart]

judging by the price, I bet it has motorized 
faders and a jog wheel too! Just kidding. I doubt it is a control surface. LOL


You could get a used BCF2000 for about $100 though.

At 04:21 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote:

Is this thing just an interface, or is it a full on surface as well?
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- Original Message -
From: TheOreoMonster
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

Change it in the daw and the interface will follow that.

> On Apr 17, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Chris Smart 
<csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

>
> wow, sounds like a great budget interface. 
Anyone know how accessible it is on the Windows 
side for changing things like buffer size, sampling rate etc.?

>
>
> At 12:44 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote:
>> The UMC404HD is $99 .
>> Behringer UMC404HD
>>
>>
>> 4 input combo XLR/1/4 inputs.
>> 4 Gain knobs.
>> Above each knob is a pair of buttons.
>> Left is instrument/Line (push in for instrument mode)
>> Right is Pad Switch.
>>
>> Stereo mono button pushed in is mono. Allows 
you to monitor incoming input signals in Mono or stereo.

>> .
>> Mix knob is next to Stereo/Mono switch. 
Fully counter clockwise you only hear direct 
input, Fully clockwise you only hear DAW 
output. The in-between positions blend the input with the DAW Playback.

>> Below that is Main output level.
>> Next to Mix knob is Output  a/b button This 
sets which outputs go to the headphone jack. 
Allows you to monitor whats being routed to 
Outputs group A (1/2) or Output Group b (3/4) on the headphones.
>> Next to that button is the Headphone Volume 
with the 1/4 headphone jack below it

>>
>> Back Panel
>> Starting on Side opposite the power and USB connectors.
>> Inserts
>> 1 top 2 bottom
>> 3 top 4 bottom
>> 3 and  four next to XLR Main out jacks.
>> Main Outs
>> XLR left  is next to inserts and then XLR right.
>> Next to XLR main outs is 1/4 main outs.
>> Top is left.  Bottom is right
>> Next is the OutPut A/B pairs. If your DAW 
Gives you a Stereo out, Output 1/2 and output 
3/4 then you can route to the 3 pairs of outputs all individually.

>> Stereo outs = Main outs
>> 1/2 = Output group A
>> 3/4 =Output group b
>> If it only gives you output 1/2 and 3/4 then 
the same signal is sent to Main outs and  output group Outputs group A.
>> And B are available on 1/4  or RCA jacks. 
Output pair A (also will show as 1/2 in DAW)
>> 1/4 jack Top is left, bottom 1/4 jack is 
right. Followed By the RCA outputs pair for Output A.
>> Next is RCA outputs for Output  pair B then 
the 1/4 jacks for that pair of outputs.
>> Next to those are the Phantom power switch. 
Phantom power is on when pushed towards side of the 1/4 jacks.

>> Next to those are Midi in/outs.
>> Midi in next to phantom power then midi out
>> Next to Midi Out is USB followed by power adapter input.
>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 12:03 PM, 
Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<<clgillan...@gmail.com>mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

>>>
>>> Send me the one for the 404. And, how much is it? I'd highly consider it.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>>>
>>> 
<http://www.gshministry.org>http://www.gshministry.org/>http://www.gshministry.org

>>> (980) 500-9575
 - Original Message -
 From: 
<TheOreoMonster>mailto:monkeypushe...@gmail.com>TheOreoMonster
 To: 
<ptaccess@googlegroups.com>mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>ptaccess@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:02 PM
 Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

 Nope, in this case I am assuming they mean 
HD as in High Definition or something like 
that. The HD versions of the interface are 24 
bit/192khz were as the non HD versions are only 
24bit/96khz. Eitherway ProTOols HD isn̢۪t requequired.

 202HD is 2 inputs and two outputs.
 204HD is 2 inputs, 4 outputs.
 404HD is 4 inputs, 4 outputs.

 I personally own the 404HD so if you need 
a text layout for that one I can share. 
Otherwise call Behringer support, after 
receiving your unit and getting it unboxed, 
they are great at assisting with that sort of stuff.
> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:57 AM, 
Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<<clgillan...@gmail.com>mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

>
> Now, you keep saying HD. I don't need 
PproTools HD to make this work, do I? I don't 
have an HD license. All I have is the standard 
ProTools. Could that potentially be an issue?

>
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Re: future network authorization for iLok License Manager

[Ricky Chilcott]

Did anyone ever work this out with Avid to see a server-based license 
server will work with Pro Tools?

On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 4:09:33 PM UTC-5, Gord wrote:
>
>That is good.  I'll have to try it out 
> with ivory and see if it works while the mac is running. 
> Gord 
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Slau Halatyn 
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:21 AM 
> To: ptac...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: future network authorization for iLok License Manager 
>
> Hi Gord, 
> I guess as long as one computer is acting as the iLok license server and 
> both computers are on the same network, yes, that's the idea. Sounds good, 
> eh? ;) 
> Slau 
>
> > On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:30 AM, Gordon Kent  > wrote: 
> > 
> >   Does this mean that I can have my iLok 
> > connected to my mac running pro tools, but as long as my mac is up and 
> > running I could run something like ivory on my PC without having to 
> > disconnect the ilok from the mac and plug it into the windows machine. 
> > That is something I would use because I still go back and forth between 
> > pro tools and Sonar from time to time. 
> > Gord 
> > 
> > -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 9:08 AM 
> > To: ptac...@googlegroups.com  
> > Subject: future network authorization for iLok License Manager 
> > 
> > Those who have carefully read through the iLok License Manager manual 
> > might have noticed a reference to network authorization. This was 
> > introduced a while ago but only pertained to site licenses. Pace has 
> made 
> > some changes to accommodate single-user network authorization. If you've 
> > recently upgraded to Pro Tools 12.6, you might have noticed a message 
> from 
> > iLok License Manager regarding network authorization. It requires you to 
> > have one computer always acting as a server. Providing that machine is 
> on 
> > and you're connected to it either locally or via VPN, you can run Pro 
> > Tools on a remote computer without an iLok present.  To be clear, you 
> > don't have to use this feature and most people will simply continue to 
> use 
> > the iLok exactly as it has worked all along. This is just another option 
> > for authorization. Just so the users here know, that section of the iLok 
> > License Manager that requires setup for such network authorization is 
> not 
> > yet accessible and Pace is naturally aware of this and, as in the past, 
> > I'm working with them to eventually make it accessible. Pace has 
> > demonstrated their commitment to accessibility so I'm personally not 
> > concerned that upon its roll-out, this feature is not yet ready for 
> setup 
> > using a screen reader. At this point, it looks like it should be ready 
> > some time around the end of the year. Just an FYI. 
> > Slau 
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Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Is this thing just an interface, or is it a full on surface as well?
---
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Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575
  - Original Message - 
  From: TheOreoMonster 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:09 PM
  Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.


  Change it in the daw and the interface will follow that. 

  > On Apr 17, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Chris Smart  wrote:
  > 
  > wow, sounds like a great budget interface. Anyone know how accessible it is 
on the Windows side for changing things like buffer size, sampling rate etc.?
  > 
  > 
  > At 12:44 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote:
  >> The UMC404HD is $99 .
  >> Behringer UMC404HD
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 4 input combo XLR/1/4 inputs.
  >> 4 Gain knobs.
  >> Above each knob is a pair of buttons.
  >> Left is instrument/Line (push in for instrument mode)
  >> Right is Pad Switch.
  >> 
  >> Stereo mono button pushed in is mono. Allows you to monitor incoming input 
signals in Mono or stereo.
  >> .
  >> Mix knob is next to Stereo/Mono switch. Fully counter clockwise you only 
hear direct input, Fully clockwise you only hear DAW output. The in-between 
positions blend the input with the DAW Playback.
  >> Below that is Main output level.
  >> Next to Mix knob is Output  a/b button This sets which outputs go to the 
headphone jack. Allows you to monitor whats being routed to Outputs group A 
(1/2) or Output Group b (3/4) on the headphones.
  >> Next to that button is the Headphone Volume with the 1/4 headphone jack 
below it
  >> 
  >> Back Panel
  >> Starting on Side opposite the power and USB connectors.
  >> Inserts
  >> 1 top 2 bottom
  >> 3 top 4 bottom
  >> 3 and  four next to XLR Main out jacks.
  >> Main Outs
  >> XLR left  is next to inserts and then XLR right.
  >> Next to XLR main outs is 1/4 main outs.
  >> Top is left.  Bottom is right
  >> Next is the OutPut A/B pairs. If your DAW Gives you a Stereo out, Output 
1/2 and output 3/4 then you can route to the 3 pairs of outputs all 
individually.
  >> Stereo outs = Main outs
  >> 1/2 = Output group A
  >> 3/4 =Output group b
  >> If it only gives you output 1/2 and 3/4 then the same signal is sent to 
Main outs and  output group Outputs group A.
  >> And B are available on 1/4  or RCA jacks. Output pair A (also will show as 
1/2 in DAW)
  >> 1/4 jack Top is left, bottom 1/4 jack is right. Followed By the RCA 
outputs pair for Output A.
  >> Next is RCA outputs for Output  pair B then the 1/4 jacks for that pair of 
outputs.
  >> Next to those are the Phantom power switch. Phantom power is on when 
pushed towards side of the 1/4 jacks.
  >> Next to those are Midi in/outs.
  >> Midi in next to phantom power then midi out
  >> Next to Midi Out is USB followed by power adapter input.
  >> 
  >>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
  >>> 
  >>> Send me the one for the 404. And, how much is it? I'd highly consider it.
  >>> ---
  >>> Christopher Gilland
  >>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
  >>> 
  >>> http://www.gshministry.org
  >>> (980) 500-9575
   - Original Message -
   From: TheOreoMonster
   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:02 PM
   Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.
   
   Nope, in this case I am assuming they mean HD as in High Definition or 
something like that. The HD versions of the interface are 24 bit/192khz were as 
the non HD versions are only 24bit/96khz. Eitherway ProTOols HD isn’t 
required.
   202HD is 2 inputs and two outputs.
   204HD is 2 inputs, 4 outputs.
   404HD is 4 inputs, 4 outputs.
   
   I personally own the 404HD so if you need a text layout for that one I 
can share. Otherwise call Behringer support, after receiving your unit and 
getting it unboxed, they are great at assisting with that sort of stuff.
  > On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > 
  > Now, you keep saying HD. I don't need PproTools HD to make this work, 
do I? I don't have an HD license. All I have is the standard ProTools. Could 
that potentially be an issue?
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Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[TheOreoMonster]

Change it in the daw and the interface will follow that. 

> On Apr 17, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Chris Smart  wrote:
> 
> wow, sounds like a great budget interface. Anyone know how accessible it is 
> on the Windows side for changing things like buffer size, sampling rate etc.?
> 
> 
> At 12:44 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote:
>> The UMC404HD is $99 .
>> Behringer UMC404HD
>> 
>> 
>> 4 input combo XLR/1/4 inputs.
>> 4 Gain knobs.
>> Above each knob is a pair of buttons.
>> Left is instrument/Line (push in for instrument mode)
>> Right is Pad Switch.
>> 
>> Stereo mono button pushed in is mono. Allows you to monitor incoming input 
>> signals in Mono or stereo.
>> .
>> Mix knob is next to Stereo/Mono switch. Fully counter clockwise you only 
>> hear direct input, Fully clockwise you only hear DAW output. The in-between 
>> positions blend the input with the DAW Playback.
>> Below that is Main output level.
>> Next to Mix knob is Output  a/b button This sets which outputs go to the 
>> headphone jack. Allows you to monitor whats being routed to Outputs group A 
>> (1/2) or Output Group b (3/4) on the headphones.
>> Next to that button is the Headphone Volume with the 1/4 headphone jack 
>> below it
>> 
>> Back Panel
>> Starting on Side opposite the power and USB connectors.
>> Inserts
>> 1 top 2 bottom
>> 3 top 4 bottom
>> 3 and  four next to XLR Main out jacks.
>> Main Outs
>> XLR left  is next to inserts and then XLR right.
>> Next to XLR main outs is 1/4 main outs.
>> Top is left.  Bottom is right
>> Next is the OutPut A/B pairs. If your DAW Gives you a Stereo out, Output 1/2 
>> and output 3/4 then you can route to the 3 pairs of outputs all individually.
>> Stereo outs = Main outs
>> 1/2 = Output group A
>> 3/4 =Output group b
>> If it only gives you output 1/2 and 3/4 then the same signal is sent to Main 
>> outs and  output group Outputs group A.
>> And B are available on 1/4  or RCA jacks. Output pair A (also will show as 
>> 1/2 in DAW)
>> 1/4 jack Top is left, bottom 1/4 jack is right. Followed By the RCA outputs 
>> pair for Output A.
>> Next is RCA outputs for Output  pair B then the 1/4 jacks for that pair of 
>> outputs.
>> Next to those are the Phantom power switch. Phantom power is on when pushed 
>> towards side of the 1/4 jacks.
>> Next to those are Midi in/outs.
>> Midi in next to phantom power then midi out
>> Next to Midi Out is USB followed by power adapter input.
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Send me the one for the 404. And, how much is it? I'd highly consider it.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>>> 
>>> http://www.gshministry.org
>>> (980) 500-9575
 - Original Message -
 From: TheOreoMonster
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:02 PM
 Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.
 
 Nope, in this case I am assuming they mean HD as in High Definition or 
 something like that. The HD versions of the interface are 24 bit/192khz 
 were as the non HD versions are only 24bit/96khz. Eitherway ProTOols HD 
 isn’t required.
 202HD is 2 inputs and two outputs.
 204HD is 2 inputs, 4 outputs.
 404HD is 4 inputs, 4 outputs.
 
 I personally own the 404HD so if you need a text layout for that one I can 
 share. Otherwise call Behringer support, after receiving your unit and 
 getting it unboxed, they are great at assisting with that sort of stuff.
> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Now, you keep saying HD. I don't need PproTools HD to make this work, do 
> I? I don't have an HD license. All I have is the standard ProTools. Could 
> that potentially be an issue?
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Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Excellent. Thanks very much for this.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: TheOreoMonster 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:44 PM
  Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.


  The UMC404HD is $99 . 
  Behringer UMC404HD




  4 input combo XLR/1/4 inputs. 
  4 Gain knobs.
  Above each knob is a pair of buttons. 
  Left is instrument/Line (push in for instrument mode)
  Right is Pad Switch.


  Stereo mono button pushed in is mono. Allows you to monitor incoming input 
signals in Mono or stereo.
   . 
  Mix knob is next to Stereo/Mono switch. Fully counter clockwise you only hear 
direct input, Fully clockwise you only hear DAW output. The in-between 
positions blend the input with the DAW Playback. 
  Below that is Main output level.
  Next to Mix knob is Output  a/b button This sets which outputs go to the 
headphone jack. Allows you to monitor whats being routed to Outputs group A 
(1/2) or Output Group b (3/4) on the headphones. 
  Next to that button is the Headphone Volume with the 1/4 headphone jack below 
it 


  Back Panel
  Starting on Side opposite the power and USB connectors.
  Inserts
  1 top 2 bottom
  3 top 4 bottom
  3 and  four next to XLR Main out jacks.
  Main Outs 
  XLR left  is next to inserts and then XLR right. 
  Next to XLR main outs is 1/4 main outs. 
  Top is left.  Bottom is right
  Next is the OutPut A/B pairs. If your DAW Gives you a Stereo out, Output 1/2 
and output 3/4 then you can route to the 3 pairs of outputs all individually. 
  Stereo outs = Main outs 
  1/2 = Output group A
  3/4 =Output group b
  If it only gives you output 1/2 and 3/4 then the same signal is sent to Main 
outs and  output group Outputs group A.
  And B are available on 1/4  or RCA jacks. Output pair A (also will show as 
1/2 in DAW)
  1/4 jack Top is left, bottom 1/4 jack is right. Followed By the RCA outputs 
pair for Output A.
  Next is RCA outputs for Output  pair B then the 1/4 jacks for that pair of 
outputs.
  Next to those are the Phantom power switch. Phantom power is on when pushed 
towards side of the 1/4 jacks. 
  Next to those are Midi in/outs. 
  Midi in next to phantom power then midi out 
  Next to Midi Out is USB followed by power adapter input.


On Apr 17, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Send me the one for the 404. And, how much is it? I'd highly consider it.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575
  - Original Message - 
  From: TheOreoMonster
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.


  Nope, in this case I am assuming they mean HD as in High Definition or 
something like that. The HD versions of the interface are 24 bit/192khz were as 
the non HD versions are only 24bit/96khz. Eitherway ProTOols HD isn’t required. 
  202HD is 2 inputs and two outputs.
  204HD is 2 inputs, 4 outputs.
  404HD is 4 inputs, 4 outputs.


  I personally own the 404HD so if you need a text layout for that one I 
can share. Otherwise call Behringer support, after receiving your unit and 
getting it unboxed, they are great at assisting with that sort of stuff.

On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Now, you keep saying HD. I don't need PproTools HD to make this work, 
do I? I don't have an HD license. All I have is the standard ProTools. Could 
that potentially be an issue?


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Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[Chris Smart]

wow, sounds like a great budget interface. Anyone 
know how accessible it is on the Windows side for 
changing things like buffer size, sampling rate etc.?



At 12:44 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote:

The UMC404HD is $99 .
Behringer UMC404HD


4 input combo XLR/1/4 inputs.
4 Gain knobs.
Above each knob is a pair of buttons.
Left is instrument/Line (push in for instrument mode)
Right is Pad Switch.

Stereo mono button pushed in is mono. Allows you 
to monitor incoming input signals in Mono or stereo.

 .
Mix knob is next to Stereo/Mono switch. Fully 
counter clockwise you only hear direct input, 
Fully clockwise you only hear DAW output. The 
in-between positions blend the input with the DAW Playback.

Below that is Main output level.
Next to Mix knob is Output  a/b button This sets 
which outputs go to the headphone jack. Allows 
you to monitor whats being routed to Outputs 
group A (1/2) or Output Group b (3/4) on the headphones.
Next to that button is the Headphone Volume with 
the 1/4 headphone jack below it


Back Panel
Starting on Side opposite the power and USB connectors.
Inserts
1 top 2 bottom
3 top 4 bottom
3 and  four next to XLR Main out jacks.
Main Outs
XLR left  is next to inserts and then XLR right.
Next to XLR main outs is 1/4 main outs.
Top is left.  Bottom is right
Next is the OutPut A/B pairs. If your DAW Gives 
you a Stereo out, Output 1/2 and output 3/4 then 
you can route to the 3 pairs of outputs all individually.

Stereo outs = Main outs
1/2 = Output group A
3/4 =Output group b
If it only gives you output 1/2 and 3/4 then the 
same signal is sent to Main outs and  output group Outputs group A.
And B are available on 1/4  or RCA jacks. Output 
pair A (also will show as 1/2 in DAW)
1/4 jack Top is left, bottom 1/4 jack is right. 
Followed By the RCA outputs pair for Output A.
Next is RCA outputs for Output  pair B then the 
1/4 jacks for that pair of outputs.
Next to those are the Phantom power switch. 
Phantom power is on when pushed towards side of the 1/4 jacks.

Next to those are Midi in/outs.
Midi in next to phantom power then midi out
Next to Midi Out is USB followed by power adapter input.

On Apr 17, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Christopher-Mark 
Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Send me the one for the 404. And, how much is it? I'd highly consider it.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

- Original Message -
From: TheOreoMonster
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

Nope, in this case I am assuming they mean HD 
as in High Definition or something like that. 
The HD versions of the interface are 24 
bit/192khz were as the non HD versions are 
only 24bit/96khz. Eitherway ProTOols HD isn’t required.

202HD is 2 inputs and two outputs.
204HD is 2 inputs, 4 outputs.
404HD is 4 inputs, 4 outputs.

I personally own the 404HD so if you need a 
text layout for that one I can share. 
Otherwise call Behringer support, after 
receiving your unit and getting it unboxed, 
they are great at assisting with that sort of stuff.
On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:57 AM, 
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<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Now, you keep saying HD. I don't need 
PproTools HD to make this work, do I? I don't 
have an HD license. All I have is the 
standard ProTools. Could that potentially be an issue?


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Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[TheOreoMonster]

The UMC404HD is $99 . 
Behringer UMC404HD


4 input combo XLR/1/4 inputs. 
4 Gain knobs.
Above each knob is a pair of buttons. 
Left is instrument/Line (push in for instrument mode)
Right is Pad Switch.

Stereo mono button pushed in is mono. Allows you to monitor incoming input 
signals in Mono or stereo.
 . 
Mix knob is next to Stereo/Mono switch. Fully counter clockwise you only hear 
direct input, Fully clockwise you only hear DAW output. The in-between 
positions blend the input with the DAW Playback. 
Below that is Main output level.
Next to Mix knob is Output  a/b button This sets which outputs go to the 
headphone jack. Allows you to monitor whats being routed to Outputs group A 
(1/2) or Output Group b (3/4) on the headphones. 
Next to that button is the Headphone Volume with the 1/4 headphone jack below 
it 

Back Panel
Starting on Side opposite the power and USB connectors.
Inserts
1 top 2 bottom
3 top 4 bottom
3 and  four next to XLR Main out jacks.
Main Outs 
XLR left  is next to inserts and then XLR right. 
Next to XLR main outs is 1/4 main outs. 
Top is left.  Bottom is right
Next is the OutPut A/B pairs. If your DAW Gives you a Stereo out, Output 1/2 
and output 3/4 then you can route to the 3 pairs of outputs all individually. 
Stereo outs = Main outs 
1/2 = Output group A
3/4 =Output group b
If it only gives you output 1/2 and 3/4 then the same signal is sent to Main 
outs and  output group Outputs group A.
And B are available on 1/4  or RCA jacks. Output pair A (also will show as 1/2 
in DAW)
1/4 jack Top is left, bottom 1/4 jack is right. Followed By the RCA outputs 
pair for Output A.
Next is RCA outputs for Output  pair B then the 1/4 jacks for that pair of 
outputs.
Next to those are the Phantom power switch. Phantom power is on when pushed 
towards side of the 1/4 jacks. 
Next to those are Midi in/outs. 
Midi in next to phantom power then midi out 
Next to Midi Out is USB followed by power adapter input.

> On Apr 17, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Send me the one for the 404. And, how much is it? I'd highly consider it.
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> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>  
> http://www.gshministry.org 
> (980) 500-9575
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: TheOreoMonster 
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.
>> 
>> Nope, in this case I am assuming they mean HD as in High Definition or 
>> something like that. The HD versions of the interface are 24 bit/192khz were 
>> as the non HD versions are only 24bit/96khz. Eitherway ProTOols HD isn’t 
>> required. 
>> 202HD is 2 inputs and two outputs.
>> 204HD is 2 inputs, 4 outputs.
>> 404HD is 4 inputs, 4 outputs.
>> 
>> I personally own the 404HD so if you need a text layout for that one I can 
>> share. Otherwise call Behringer support, after receiving your unit and 
>> getting it unboxed, they are great at assisting with that sort of stuff.
>>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Now, you keep saying HD. I don't need PproTools HD to make this work, do I? 
>>> I don't have an HD license. All I have is the standard ProTools. Could that 
>>> potentially be an issue?
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Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Send me the one for the 404. And, how much is it? I'd highly consider it.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: TheOreoMonster 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.


  Nope, in this case I am assuming they mean HD as in High Definition or 
something like that. The HD versions of the interface are 24 bit/192khz were as 
the non HD versions are only 24bit/96khz. Eitherway ProTOols HD isn’t required. 
  202HD is 2 inputs and two outputs.
  204HD is 2 inputs, 4 outputs.
  404HD is 4 inputs, 4 outputs.


  I personally own the 404HD so if you need a text layout for that one I can 
share. Otherwise call Behringer support, after receiving your unit and getting 
it unboxed, they are great at assisting with that sort of stuff.

On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Now, you keep saying HD. I don't need PproTools HD to make this work, do I? 
I don't have an HD license. All I have is the standard ProTools. Could that 
potentially be an issue?


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Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[TheOreoMonster]

Nope, in this case I am assuming they mean HD as in High Definition or 
something like that. The HD versions of the interface are 24 bit/192khz were as 
the non HD versions are only 24bit/96khz. Eitherway ProTOols HD isn’t required. 
202HD is 2 inputs and two outputs.
204HD is 2 inputs, 4 outputs.
404HD is 4 inputs, 4 outputs.

I personally own the 404HD so if you need a text layout for that one I can 
share. Otherwise call Behringer support, after receiving your unit and getting 
it unboxed, they are great at assisting with that sort of stuff.
> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Now, you keep saying HD. I don't need PproTools HD to make this work, do I? I 
> don't have an HD license. All I have is the standard ProTools. Could that 
> potentially be an issue?
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Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Now, you keep saying HD. I don't need PproTools HD to make this work, do I? I 
don't have an HD license. All I have is the standard ProTools. Could that 
potentially be an issue?

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Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Awesome! Wow, if that's all it is, is 80 bucks, I couldn't do it until next 
month, but I'll hold on to this mail, and come the 3rd, I'll get it.

Do you have a textual button/dial layout description you could send me of where 
all the dials/buttons/jacks are located?

BTW, how many channels is this board?
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Reeves 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:47 AM
  Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.


  That won't work because you're multimix is not a multi track recording 
interface. What it's doing is summing both channels into one. Ditch themixer 
and go get yourself a Behringer UMC 202. It's only 80 bucks on Amazon, and has 
the same microphone preamp's that are on the X 32, which are fantastic.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 16, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


OK. I'll give that a try next time I'm near my rig, then will report back. 
Thank you for the help. I very greatly do appreciate it!
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Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

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  - Original Message - 
  From: TheOreoMonster 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.


  Try recording to a stereo track using the input 1/2 option. Then after 
you are done right click on the track and choose the split to two mono tracks 
option. Can’t remember the exact wording but pro tools allows you to split a 
stereo track into two mono tracks 


On Apr 16, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


OK, so let me try to explain my situation, and what I'm trying to do.

So, I have ProTools 12, not sure the exact build, I need to look, but 
it is 12. That much, I do! know, and OSX Siera, although I seriously doubt that 
matters.

I'm currently for this project using a Blue Bluebird microphone which 
is directly connected with an XLR cable one end in the bottom of the mike, the 
other end into the mike input 1 on my interface which is an Alesis Multi-Mix 4. 
Then, obviously, the multi-mix 4 is simply just going into the mac via USB.

With the way that this interface works, and being it uses the native 
USB codec OSX drivers, none specific to the board, PT only sees one IO path in 
or out. Therefore, I had no choice but to combine both the in and out via  the 
ProTools agrigate device, then use it as my playback engine. This has posed 
absolutely no problems whatsoever. NO latency, nothing. So far, it's worked 
beautifully this way.

So, I want to explain from two angles what my IO path which is super 
super super easy looks like. IN fact, it's so easy, you're probably not gonna 
believe how easy it is!

For a mono audio track, under the input path popup button, if I go to 
interface sub menu, I have 2 things.

  a.. Main in 1 
  b.. and Main In 2.

If I do the same thing on a stereo audio track, I only have one thing: 
Main in 1/2.

I've not totally yet determined what input 2 is used for. My guess is 
that if I was using a stereo track, 1 would be left, and 2 would be right, but 
since I'm normally with a mike using a mono track, that wouldn't really matter 
as both channels would be unity.

OK. That all said, here is what I'm trying to do.

Normally, when I record with my mike, I set the input on a mono track 
to main 1. I practically never have had a need to use input 2 on a mono track. 
Again, on a stereo track, 1 and 2 are combined, but that's here not rellavent.

So, what I want to do is, I'm trying to make an audio demo which will 
have me  speaking in my mike, but then, I want to take through another channel 
on my interface. Probably channel 2, and plug a patch cable, one end into the 
second input on the multi-mix 4, then the other end to the headphone jack of my 
iPhone. This way, I can patch Voiceover directly into the mixer rather than 
miking it, which would sound God aweful!

If I do this however, and plug that cable into the phone/second input 
channel on the board, I then on the multimix 4 turn up my output volume dial, 
and turn up my trim and get a good signal from the phone, what's happening is, 
then, in PT, when I add a mono audio track, set its in to main 1, and it's 
output to main 1/2 stereo, then arm the track, if I then record, that one mono 
audio track is then capturing and recording both! my mike, and! the input 2 
from the multi-mix 4 with my iPhone. Technically, this is fine, but I'd really 
really like to get it where somehow my mike would be on one mono audio track, 
and my iPhone's audio would 

Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[TheOreoMonster]

Got ya, wasn’t aware it wasn’t multi track capable. Agreed with Kevin on the 
Behringer. I have the UCM404HD if its still $99 then a good deal for price vs 
features and no drivers needed on OS X. Also hear good things about the 
UMC202HD and UMC204HD. Though I’d suggest grabbing them from sweet water  since 
they have their own  built in 2 year warranty. 
> On Apr 17, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
> 
> That won't work because you're multimix is not a multi track recording 
> interface. What it's doing is summing both channels into one. Ditch themixer 
> and go get yourself a Behringer UMC 202. It's only 80 bucks on Amazon, and 
> has the same microphone preamp's that are on the X 32, which are fantastic.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 16, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  > wrote:
> 
>> OK. I'll give that a try next time I'm near my rig, then will report back. 
>> Thank you for the help. I very greatly do appreciate it!
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>>  
>> http://www.gshministry.org 
>> (980) 500-9575
>> - Original Message -
>> From: TheOreoMonster 
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 8:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.
>> 
>> Try recording to a stereo track using the input 1/2 option. Then after you 
>> are done right click on the track and choose the split to two mono tracks 
>> option. Can’t remember the exact wording but pro tools allows you to split a 
>> stereo track into two mono tracks
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, so let me try to explain my situation, and what I'm trying to do.
>>>  
>>> So, I have ProTools 12, not sure the exact build, I need to look, but it is 
>>> 12. That much, I do! know, and OSX Siera, although I seriously doubt that 
>>> matters.
>>>  
>>> I'm currently for this project using a Blue Bluebird microphone which is 
>>> directly connected with an XLR cable one end in the bottom of the mike, the 
>>> other end into the mike input 1 on my interface which is an Alesis 
>>> Multi-Mix 4. Then, obviously, the multi-mix 4 is simply just going into the 
>>> mac via USB.
>>>  
>>> With the way that this interface works, and being it uses the native USB 
>>> codec OSX drivers, none specific to the board, PT only sees one IO path in 
>>> or out. Therefore, I had no choice but to combine both the in and out via  
>>> the ProTools agrigate device, then use it as my playback engine. This has 
>>> posed absolutely no problems whatsoever. NO latency, nothing. So far, it's 
>>> worked beautifully this way.
>>>  
>>> So, I want to explain from two angles what my IO path which is super super 
>>> super easy looks like. IN fact, it's so easy, you're probably not gonna 
>>> believe how easy it is!
>>>  
>>> For a mono audio track, under the input path popup button, if I go to 
>>> interface sub menu, I have 2 things.
>>>  
>>> Main in 1
>>> and Main In 2.
>>>  
>>> If I do the same thing on a stereo audio track, I only have one thing: Main 
>>> in 1/2.
>>>  
>>> I've not totally yet determined what input 2 is used for. My guess is that 
>>> if I was using a stereo track, 1 would be left, and 2 would be right, but 
>>> since I'm normally with a mike using a mono track, that wouldn't really 
>>> matter as both channels would be unity.
>>>  
>>> OK. That all said, here is what I'm trying to do.
>>>  
>>> Normally, when I record with my mike, I set the input on a mono track to 
>>> main 1. I practically never have had a need to use input 2 on a mono track. 
>>> Again, on a stereo track, 1 and 2 are combined, but that's here not 
>>> rellavent.
>>>  
>>> So, what I want to do is, I'm trying to make an audio demo which will have 
>>> me  speaking in my mike, but then, I want to take through another channel 
>>> on my interface. Probably channel 2, and plug a patch cable, one end into 
>>> the second input on the multi-mix 4, then the other end to the headphone 
>>> jack of my iPhone. This way, I can patch Voiceover directly into the mixer 
>>> rather than miking it, which would sound God aweful!
>>>  
>>> If I do this however, and plug that cable into the phone/second input 
>>> channel on the board, I then on the multimix 4 turn up my output volume 
>>> dial, and turn up my trim and get a good signal from the phone, what's 
>>> happening is, then, in PT, when I add a mono audio track, set its in to 
>>> main 1, and it's output to main 1/2 stereo, then arm the track, if I then 
>>> record, that one mono audio track is then capturing and recording both! my 
>>> mike, and! the input 2 from the multi-mix 4 with my iPhone. Technically, 
>>> this is fine, but I'd really 

Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.

[Kevin Reeves]

That won't work because you're multimix is not a multi track recording 
interface. What it's doing is summing both channels into one. Ditch themixer 
and go get yourself a Behringer UMC 202. It's only 80 bucks on Amazon, and has 
the same microphone preamp's that are on the X 32, which are fantastic.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK. I'll give that a try next time I'm near my rig, then will report back. 
> Thank you for the help. I very greatly do appreciate it!
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>  
> http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
> - Original Message -
> From: TheOreoMonster
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: seperate inputs into multiple tracks, I'm in a predicament.
> 
> Try recording to a stereo track using the input 1/2 option. Then after you 
> are done right click on the track and choose the split to two mono tracks 
> option. Can’t remember the exact wording but pro tools allows you to split a 
> stereo track into two mono tracks
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, so let me try to explain my situation, and what I'm trying to do.
>>  
>> So, I have ProTools 12, not sure the exact build, I need to look, but it is 
>> 12. That much, I do! know, and OSX Siera, although I seriously doubt that 
>> matters.
>>  
>> I'm currently for this project using a Blue Bluebird microphone which is 
>> directly connected with an XLR cable one end in the bottom of the mike, the 
>> other end into the mike input 1 on my interface which is an Alesis Multi-Mix 
>> 4. Then, obviously, the multi-mix 4 is simply just going into the mac via 
>> USB.
>>  
>> With the way that this interface works, and being it uses the native USB 
>> codec OSX drivers, none specific to the board, PT only sees one IO path in 
>> or out. Therefore, I had no choice but to combine both the in and out via  
>> the ProTools agrigate device, then use it as my playback engine. This has 
>> posed absolutely no problems whatsoever. NO latency, nothing. So far, it's 
>> worked beautifully this way.
>>  
>> So, I want to explain from two angles what my IO path which is super super 
>> super easy looks like. IN fact, it's so easy, you're probably not gonna 
>> believe how easy it is!
>>  
>> For a mono audio track, under the input path popup button, if I go to 
>> interface sub menu, I have 2 things.
>>  
>> Main in 1
>> and Main In 2.
>>  
>> If I do the same thing on a stereo audio track, I only have one thing: Main 
>> in 1/2.
>>  
>> I've not totally yet determined what input 2 is used for. My guess is that 
>> if I was using a stereo track, 1 would be left, and 2 would be right, but 
>> since I'm normally with a mike using a mono track, that wouldn't really 
>> matter as both channels would be unity.
>>  
>> OK. That all said, here is what I'm trying to do.
>>  
>> Normally, when I record with my mike, I set the input on a mono track to 
>> main 1. I practically never have had a need to use input 2 on a mono track. 
>> Again, on a stereo track, 1 and 2 are combined, but that's here not 
>> rellavent.
>>  
>> So, what I want to do is, I'm trying to make an audio demo which will have 
>> me  speaking in my mike, but then, I want to take through another channel on 
>> my interface. Probably channel 2, and plug a patch cable, one end into the 
>> second input on the multi-mix 4, then the other end to the headphone jack of 
>> my iPhone. This way, I can patch Voiceover directly into the mixer rather 
>> than miking it, which would sound God aweful!
>>  
>> If I do this however, and plug that cable into the phone/second input 
>> channel on the board, I then on the multimix 4 turn up my output volume 
>> dial, and turn up my trim and get a good signal from the phone, what's 
>> happening is, then, in PT, when I add a mono audio track, set its in to main 
>> 1, and it's output to main 1/2 stereo, then arm the track, if I then record, 
>> that one mono audio track is then capturing and recording both! my mike, 
>> and! the input 2 from the multi-mix 4 with my iPhone. Technically, this is 
>> fine, but I'd really really like to get it where somehow my mike would be on 
>> one mono audio track, and my iPhone's audio would be on another mono audio 
>> track. This way, I could mix each signal seperetly.
>>  
>> If I set the input on a mono audio track to Main 2, then try recording, I 
>> get no audio at all. Just dead silence.
>>  
>> Before you say, check the configuration in the multi-mix 4's software panel, 
>> I can't. There is none. This interface doesn't have any software, no 
>> drivers, nothing. You just plug it in, and it just simply works. Or, shall I 
>> be a smart ass and say... doesn't work. LOL, in this case.
>>  
>> So, is there any way to do this, based on the info I've provided?