Re: audio movers and session wire accessibility for remote work

[Scott Chesworth]

SonoBus would be a good candidate for this kind of work, it's DAW 
agnostic and free. You can grab it from Sonobus.net if you're interested 
in trying out what's been done recently to make it accessible.



Hth,


Scott


On 15/06/2021 06:47, 'Stefan Albertshauser' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
wrote:

Hi,

You can use audio movers, using VOCR. It's a plugin, inserted on a track. But be sure to 
hide the visual effects of Voiceover. Otherwise, the button "Start 
transmission" isn't visible for VOCR. Annother option would be the software from 
Source Connect.

Hope, that helps.

Best

Stefan



Am 14.06.2021 um 22:38 schrieb Nick Gawronski :

Hi, Some people were talking about audio movers and session wire for remote 
working with audio.  Are any of these options accessible?  I am trying to work 
with others for recording in Pro Tools or another accessible option if it 
exists.  For remote audio editing and recording with others what software works 
best?  I do have access to a windows 10 pro 64 bits system with Reaper and 
OSARA installed and am just trying to find something to get the job done.  What 
I wish to be able to do remotely is with an audio interface connected is be 
able to record tracks with others who might also have an audio interface 
connected to their computer and if possible have some type of talking features 
where we can communicate when we are not recording.  Nick Gawronski

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Re: Beginner guide or video for blind users

[Scott Chesworth]

Just another voice vouching for Kevin Reeves. Good teacher, and a
thoroughly nice chap to boot. He's easily reachable via a Google
search.

Scott

On 7/25/17, Phil Muir  wrote:
> The IC Music training is great.  Also Kevin Reaves on list does training so
> it may be worth chatting to him.
>
> On 21 July 2017 06:47:18 BST, Andre Woods 
> wrote:
>>You really should try i see music 3128101001. Ask for Byron Harde. I
>>just completed an 7 week class. They provide training and help you get
>>equipment  312 810 1001 byron harden. Tell him Andre referred you.
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 8:22 AM, Jørgen Skov Nielsen 
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Ramy
>>> This is Jørgen from Denmark.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for your answer, I will buy this training stuff, and
>>begin to learn about using it.
>>>
>>> After that I will buy a blind ProTools teacher for tips for using
>>ProTools, for blind people, maybe I will ask some questions here on the
>>mailing list, but if I can help others here on the list I will be glad,
>>
>>> I have also a seeing music engineer I can ask for help with my
>>control panel on my soundcard, because it is not accessible for
>>VoiceOver users.
>>> One of my sighted music engineers have produced A ProTools template
>>for me and some sessions for my UAUDIO Apollo 8 soundcard.
>>> He said, it is possible to make more advanced templates in ProTools,
>>that can use my effects on my Apollo 8 soundcard.
>>> I can also ask my seeing audio Engineer friends to help me sometimes
>>but mostly with advanced stuff.
>>>
>>> But all i can do it myself is the best. :)
>>>
>>>  best regards
>>> Jørgen
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On 19 Jul 2017, at 01.03, Ramy Moustafa 
>>wrote:

 Hello:

 Ramy is here From Egypt.
 am new like you, but I got all my
>>>
 mation through this great mailing list,

 I   Think, you can start from the protools with speech. there are
 tutorials that use the Pt with Voice over, I must say that the
 tutorial is old, but can be a very very good point to start.

 after that , you can see what are you doing to do.

 Have a great day

> On 7/18/17, Jørgen Skov Nielsen  wrote:
> Hello all
>
> I am using the newest version of ProTools with the newest Flo tools
>>together
> with my Apollo 8 Quad, if you want to read more about my studio
>>setup, you
> can do that on my post with the subject My home studio should I buy
>>more
> before I can begin
> For more than 10 years ago, I have used my windows computer to make
>>music
> with, but for about 10 years ago, the programs was not very
>>accessible with
> a screenreader.
> I have used a harddisk recorder on my Tyros keyboard. But I want to
>>have
> more control over my recordings and I want to mex my music better.
> In 2008 I bought my first Mac, I have now used it about 9 years,
>>and I have
> tried to record before in ProTools on a old sound device.
> Now I have bought my dream setup, and now I should learn to make my
>>music on
> my Mac with ProTools, but can I find some video guides or podcast
>>with
> accessibility in mind.
> I want to learn to record my own music, and if there is a person
>>that will
> helping me with some recording tips for blind users, I will be
>>glad.
> If there is a ProTools user, that can teach me about the Protools
>>use, I
> will be glad, I want to pay for a teacher, , so are you a good
>>ProTools user
> and you want to teach a blind person on the internet over skype or
>>Facetime,
> feel free to contact me,
> I hope anyone can help me with my questions.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Best regards
> Jørgen Skov Nielsen
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Re: A quick question about air gigs job search

[Scott Chesworth]

If you really want to stand out, I'd be happy to send over a pretty
good photoshopped pic of Vladimir Putin riding a bear through a lake.

Good luck with the search man :)

Scott

On 7/25/17, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
> If you have no faders then go for hand s on the keys.
>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Chris Smart  wrote:
>>
>> perhaps a pic of you with hands on the faders, in front of the monitors
>> etc.? People like seeing gear for some reason. :)
>>
>> At 07:40 AM 7/25/2017, you wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> So, I am a pianist/keyboardist, and I have listed my skills on airgigs.
>>> In addition, I also do audio editing of spoken word as well as mixing.
>>> What might be a good and appropriate picture to display on that airgigs
>>> listing for audio editor/mixer?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jes
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>>
>> 
>> "There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats."
>> - Albert Schweitzer
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Re: what would you pay for a comprehensive Pro Tools tutorial?

[Scott Chesworth]

Replying to a few people's points all in one message:

Slau: aside from the extra levels of patronage (which I've seen over
complicate some projects if not thoroughly thought through), crowd
funding is the neatest way I know of getting paid a base rate that you
can live with before pumping time into a project. Obviously some time
has to go in to the crowd funding campaign itself, but I should think
for most people, having to lay out the specifics of what they intend
to create and committing to a timeline can only be a helpful thing
once it comes to the actual recording. It's all too easy to run away
with yourself sometimes isn't it.

Carlos: While the PT With Speech stuff is well done, there's not a ton
of content in there to appeal to the more advanced users IMO, and I'm
pretty sure that Slau will want to go a little deeper. Worth noting
that that's not to say that Matt and Rob don't know their stuff, far
from it. Also, so far as I know, those tutorials haven't been updated
to include the most recent accessibility changes yet. Some of them are
biggies. Like, every time you work you notice them type biggies.

Oreo: you think Scott makes valid points and you agree with *her*?
That's good to know old chap. Now, shall we set aside some time to
have a talk about boys and girls and how to tell the difference? :P

Scott (boy edition, who is yet to encounter a girl edition)

On 12/10/15, Ricky Prevatte  wrote:
> I would go no lower than 100 you are busy and you cannot afford to do any
> less. You could make more money doing a studio project. I would enjoy that
> but the groove three model as I said before would be a good thing.
>
> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>
>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 7:08 AM, david  wrote:
>>
>> Now there we’re at pt 12.3 I think that a lot of things have improved
>> since pt 8 or pt9 in terms of voice over accessibility and what you’re
>> able to do now. I would say about $100 for a five part series concerning
>> specific things concerning pro tools.  The problems that I had while I was
>> in school were that recording midi was a chore and you didn’t have
>> accessibility and the adjusting of tempo was something that was a problem
>> but I don’t know how much things have gotten.  Someone else would have to
>> speak to these issues.  Just something to think about
>>
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Ricky Prevatte
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 9:01 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what would you pay for a comprehensive Pro Tools tutorial?
>>
>> Definitely the groove three model would be a good guideline. I would
>> support it and be glad to do so.
>>
>> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Slau
>> M do I smell something brewing at BeSharp?
>> I think a great guideline to look at when putting something like this
>> together is the Groove3 model, both in terms of pricing and chapter
>> lengths.
>>
>> If chapters are too long it can be a mission to navigate them, especially
>> if you are going back later looking for a specific bit. As for pricing,
>> someone else already mentioned this will be sold to a much smaller
>> audience and you would want to be paid for your time, but I think if going
>> too expensive it won’t sell too well.
>> For example I’ll pay $50 for a tutorial series on a specific topic, but if
>> that same series costs $200 then I’ll rather spend the $200 on a new
>> plug-in and figure it out myself. Not saying it must be $50 and $200 will
>> be crazy, but I think you get the idea, you can only charge so much for a
>> online tutorial.
>>
>> Nickus
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 07 Dec 2015, at 17:21, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>
>> I'm just doing a bit of market research here:
>> I'm curious to know what the list feels is a minimum price they'd expect a
>> comprehensive tutorial on using Pro Tools with VoiceOver to cost and what
>> would be the maximum they'd consider paying for such a series.
>> I'm not talking about a replacement for the Pro Tools manuals but rather a
>> series of modules that cover the VoiceOver specific techniques of using
>> Pro Tools. I know this is still pretty vague but I also wonder what kind
>> of scale people would expect: a 5-hour series? A ten-part series of
>> one-hour segments?One or two main parts with smaller modules for more
>> specific subjects?
>> Anyway, I might have an idea for such an undertaking but feeling the water
>> first. Please share any relevant thoughts.
>>
>> Slau
>>
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Re: Full Apple keyboard

[Scott Chesworth]

Wew. Something shifted just then. Maybe everything is going to be ok after all.

Just chiming in late as someone who has burned a ton of time and
effort on remapping for DAW use on both platforms since Apple did away
with embedded numpads. The conclusion I've come to is that it wasn't
entirely wasted time, because occasionally I've been caught short and
won brownie points for being able to open PT, perform a few edits or
revisions and have those back to people faster than they expected.
That said, it's always been a more pleasant experience working on a
full sized keyboard in PT, and if the ability to do without one
vanished, I'd be more annoyed about the effort it took to find
solutions than losing the functionality itself. Plus, a few less
pieces of software and/or drivers to keep updated. Plus, if you're
working from almost any tutorial aside from "this is how to use Pro
Tools if you don't have a full sized keyboard", they're going to be
talking in terms of a full sized keyboard, so you may as well play
along on a full sized keyboard. The learning curve is steep enough
already without adding an extra level of interpretation.

So yeah, get a full sized keyboard. Probably an Apple one. :)

Scott

On 12/10/15, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Mark this date down because it's probably one of the few times I'll
> whole-heartedly agree with Chuck: just go buy the Apple keyboard. It's fifty
> dollars. Invest in your productivity and minimize variables and workarounds.
> Plug it in and it just works exactly as it should.
>
> On Dec 9, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>
>> You are aware, are you not, that key mapping isn't completely necessary to
>> use the numpad on a smaller keyboard.  Most of the numpad keys can be
>> pressed simply by holding down the fn key in combination with certain
>> letters.  For example, If I remember this correctly, fn+J is your 1 key, k
>> is your 2 key, and l is your 3 key.  U would be 4, i is 5, o is 6, so on
>> so forth.  I might be remembering this slightly wrong, but I know it was
>> definitely something to that effect.
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Poppa Bear  wrote:
>>>
>>> There is a remapping utility that was mentioned here a few years back
>>> that you may be able to find in the archives. It allowed the smaller
>>> keyboard to be used as the full size converting some of the keyboard into
>>> the num pad.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Andy B
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:31 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Full Apple keyboard
>>>
>>> Do you have a list of key remapping this and that need to be done?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Dec 9, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Vaughn Brown 
 wrote:

 Or, you can remap your computer's keyboard so the function key plus L
 is three, function plus K is two etc. I do this and it works just
 fine.
 Vaughn

> On 12/9/15, Poppa Bear  wrote:
> I just use an old wireless PC keyboard.
>
>
>
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Andy B.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 11:17 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Full Apple keyboard
>
>
>
> I have to look hard at my budget. It is sort of getting stretched
> before
> everything on the list is accounted for. Is a full sized Apple
> keyboard
> required to completely use PT, or is it something you can get by
> without
> until a later date?
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Re: Nob, will it help us? Please see the video.

[Scott Chesworth]

I'd be very surprised if the setup utility for this was accessible,
but hey, some surprises are good. Could be a neat way into control
surfaces for someone with limited budget or space if there's some sort
of sharing mechanism for individual apps couldn't it.

On 12/9/15, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>
>
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKK5BJJmwhkRamy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: what would you pay for a comprehensive Pro Tools tutorial?

[Scott Chesworth]

NO worries, I'll have words with Tim Cook instead. ;)

On 12/11/15, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I blame auto correct here. It usually got my back, but this time it stabbed
> me in the back instead lol. Apologies man.
>
>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Scott Chesworth <scottcheswo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Replying to a few people's points all in one message:
>>
>> Slau: aside from the extra levels of patronage (which I've seen over
>> complicate some projects if not thoroughly thought through), crowd
>> funding is the neatest way I know of getting paid a base rate that you
>> can live with before pumping time into a project. Obviously some time
>> has to go in to the crowd funding campaign itself, but I should think
>> for most people, having to lay out the specifics of what they intend
>> to create and committing to a timeline can only be a helpful thing
>> once it comes to the actual recording. It's all too easy to run away
>> with yourself sometimes isn't it.
>>
>> Carlos: While the PT With Speech stuff is well done, there's not a ton
>> of content in there to appeal to the more advanced users IMO, and I'm
>> pretty sure that Slau will want to go a little deeper. Worth noting
>> that that's not to say that Matt and Rob don't know their stuff, far
>> from it. Also, so far as I know, those tutorials haven't been updated
>> to include the most recent accessibility changes yet. Some of them are
>> biggies. Like, every time you work you notice them type biggies.
>>
>> Oreo: you think Scott makes valid points and you agree with *her*?
>> That's good to know old chap. Now, shall we set aside some time to
>> have a talk about boys and girls and how to tell the difference? :P
>>
>> Scott (boy edition, who is yet to encounter a girl edition)
>>
>> On 12/10/15, Ricky Prevatte <rickypreva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I would go no lower than 100 you are busy and you cannot afford to do
>>> any
>>> less. You could make more money doing a studio project. I would enjoy
>>> that
>>> but the groove three model as I said before would be a good thing.
>>>
>>> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 7:08 AM, david <dingram...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now there we’re at pt 12.3 I think that a lot of things have improved
>>>> since pt 8 or pt9 in terms of voice over accessibility and what you’re
>>>> able to do now. I would say about $100 for a five part series
>>>> concerning
>>>> specific things concerning pro tools.  The problems that I had while I
>>>> was
>>>> in school were that recording midi was a chore and you didn’t have
>>>> accessibility and the adjusting of tempo was something that was a
>>>> problem
>>>> but I don’t know how much things have gotten.  Someone else would have
>>>> to
>>>> speak to these issues.  Just something to think about
>>>>
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Ricky Prevatte
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 9:01 PM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: what would you pay for a comprehensive Pro Tools tutorial?
>>>>
>>>> Definitely the groove three model would be a good guideline. I would
>>>> support it and be glad to do so.
>>>>
>>>> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Slau
>>>> M do I smell something brewing at BeSharp?
>>>> I think a great guideline to look at when putting something like this
>>>> together is the Groove3 model, both in terms of pricing and chapter
>>>> lengths.
>>>>
>>>> If chapters are too long it can be a mission to navigate them,
>>>> especially
>>>> if you are going back later looking for a specific bit. As for pricing,
>>>> someone else already mentioned this will be sold to a much smaller
>>>> audience and you would want to be paid for your time, but I think if
>>>> going
>>>> too expensive it won’t sell too well.
>>>> For example I’ll pay $50 for a tutorial series on a specific topic, but
>>>> if
>>>> that same series costs $200 then I’ll rather spend the $200 on a new
>>>> plug-in and figure it out myself. Not saying it must be $50 and $200
>>

Re: what would you pay for a comprehensive Pro Tools tutorial?

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Slau,

Given who's producing it, if this were thorough I'd say $50 would give
me a warm fuzzy feeling, it'd need to contain some stuff that I didn't
already know and would be thought of as part supporting the cause part
investment at about $100, and by $150 it'd probably have to wait until
I had a good run of gigs or Santa was coming to town. Hour-long
segments feel pretty long to me unless they're broken up with frequent
demos so that there's something to wake me up (no reflection on your
public speaking, I promise). Half that length is more my focus
threshold for a specific topic.

One question: since you're a believer in the combination of Pro Tools
and a control surface, and you also have a very comprehensive control
surface, wouldn't rethinking your workflows and producing this to
appeal to the majority be a massive undertaking? By majority, I'm
assuming that most sales would be to people who are just getting
started with PT, thus I'm guessing that the majority of them, if they
had a surface at all, would likely be bringing that over from another
DAW, and seeing as none of the other protocols seem to go quite as
deep as Avids native stuff, they wouldn't be as deeply integrated as
what you're running there.

Re getting paid to cover your time... crowd funding seems the most
obvious solution. When it's paid for, it gets made. Until then, we
continue to harass you via PTAccess I guess lol.

Hth a bit

Scott

On 12/8/15, david  wrote:
> Now there we’re at pt 12.3 I think that a lot of things have improved since
> pt 8 or pt9 in terms of voice over accessibility and what you’re able to do
> now. I would say about $100 for a five part series concerning specific
> things concerning pro tools.  The problems that I had while I was in school
> were that recording midi was a chore and you didn’t have accessibility and
> the adjusting of tempo was something that was a problem but I don’t know how
> much things have gotten.  Someone else would have to speak to these issues.
> Just something to think about
>
>
>
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Ricky Prevatte
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 9:01 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what would you pay for a comprehensive Pro Tools tutorial?
>
>
>
> Definitely the groove three model would be a good guideline. I would support
> it and be glad to do so.
>
> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Nickus de Vos   > wrote:
>
> Hi Slau
>
> M do I smell something brewing at BeSharp?
>
> I think a great guideline to look at when putting something like this
> together is the Groove3 model, both in terms of pricing and chapter
> lengths.
>
>
>
> If chapters are too long it can be a mission to navigate them, especially if
> you are going back later looking for a specific bit. As for pricing, someone
> else already mentioned this will be sold to a much smaller audience and you
> would want to be paid for your time, but I think if going too expensive it
> won’t sell too well.
>
> For example I’ll pay $50 for a tutorial series on a specific topic, but if
> that same series costs $200 then I’ll rather spend the $200 on a new plug-in
> and figure it out myself. Not saying it must be $50 and $200 will be crazy,
> but I think you get the idea, you can only charge so much for a online
> tutorial.
>
>
>
> Nickus
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 07 Dec 2015, at 17:21, Slau Halatyn   > wrote:
>
> I'm just doing a bit of market research here:
> I'm curious to know what the list feels is a minimum price they'd expect a
> comprehensive tutorial on using Pro Tools with VoiceOver to cost and what
> would be the maximum they'd consider paying for such a series.
> I'm not talking about a replacement for the Pro Tools manuals but rather a
> series of modules that cover the VoiceOver specific techniques of using Pro
> Tools. I know this is still pretty vague but I also wonder what kind of
> scale people would expect: a 5-hour series? A ten-part series of one-hour
> segments?One or two main parts with smaller modules for more specific
> subjects?
> Anyway, I might have an idea for such an undertaking but feeling the water
> first. Please share any relevant thoughts.
>
> Slau
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Re: Question about Logic, and yes, this is on topic, I promise! Please read.

[Scott Chesworth]

There's more bundled synths and samples with Logic. Most of that
content sounds better to my ears, but that's subjective. So far as I
know though, Main Stage has all the same content and is a hell of a
lot cheaper. If you're happy with Pro Tools as your DAW, maybe that'd
be the way to go.

Hth

Scott

On 12/3/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Here is my question.  For the past 3 years now roughly, I have been a very
> very happy owner of ProTools.  I am not wanting to steer away from ProTools.
>  OK, let me make that very very clear up front.  I love ProTools and will
> support its use for as long as I possibly can.
>
> What I am however wonderring is, there are people on this list, like Kevin,
> and a few others, who I know beyond a doubt are using both ProTools as well
> as Logic Pro X.  So, I'm really interested in hearing from you guys,
> especially.  What I'd objectively like to do is to determine from you all
> what it is that you all mainly use Logic for within your workflows.  I
> understand that Logic has come a long ways with accessibility, but still is
> obviously not totally up to par with ProTools in many respects.
>
> I hear one of the biggest things with Logic that is great is, unlike in
> ProTools, with Logic, using virtual instruments is quite easy to do.  Is
> this the main thing, or are there other reasons why I may would want to add
> Logic to my workflow in addition to ProTools?  ProTools has the XPand
> bundle, and in addition to this, I have one of the Ivory bundles for a good
> concert acoustic piano.  As far as I am aware, I'm good when it comes to
> virtual synths, or are the ones in Logic even more realistic than those of
> XPand.  I hear the whole extras package when downloaded is about 50 gigs in
> size, as aposed to XPand which is about 2 gigs if I understand correctly, so
> surely it's gotta be more realistic in Logic, doesn't it?
>
> Ultimately, what I am trying to ascertain is, is it worth me investing 200
> bucks for Logic, or would I be better off just using ProTools, and nothing
> else.  What can Logic give me, truthfully, and realistically, both from a
> workflow standpoint, as well as from an accessibility standpoint that I
> could not get with ProTools alone?
>
> Thank you for your help, and input on this matter.  I'd like to go ahead and
> purchase Logic today, if it's going to be worth it, so really the sooner I
> can start getting some information, the better.
>
> Have a delightful day, guys!
>
> Chris.
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Re: Current situation with Voiceover (PT 9/10/11/12)

[Scott Chesworth]

There be folks getting stuff done in Logic, but if you're hoping for
well-rounded, blind user influenced, consistent accessibility, PT is
the DAW to beat at the moment by quite some margin IMO. I know we have
some Logic users on here, some of them being staunch fans and perhaps
a few that have made the switch. Is what I just said fair?

Scott

On 12/2/15, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 wrote:
> I noticed on the Avid website that they’ve extended the free Eleven plugin
> offer. Buy a PT12 annual subscription before 31 December and you get that
> plugin for free.
>
> Apologies if this has been previously covered (or is off topic). Can those
> who use the latest version of Logic Pro X say how it compares to ProTools
> 12.3 in terms of accessibility? I have yet to upgrade to 12 (I was going to
> in September but didn’t get around to it); but the move to El Capitan is
> going to force the upgrade or the transition to Logic, one way or another.
>
>
>
>> On 2 Dec 2015, at 15:38, CHUCK REICHEL 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed Poppa,
>> I'm just in the middle of moving from a pt 9.03 HD3 system to a 12.3 hdx
>> system.
>> The accessibility in 12.3 is lightyears better than pt 9.03 on snow
>> leopard!
>> the verdict is still out for El Capitan for me though! :)
>> For instance my mac mini is experiencing some issues such as getting hung
>> up trying to shut down and restarting with El Capitan & the PT 12.3 HDX
>> system but Avid has some work arounds!
>> YMMV!
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>>
>>> Right around PT 10 things took a few steps back, but in version 11 and 12
>>> they have continued to move forward. Your friend will have much more
>>> accessibility in the latest versions as well as the option of using many
>>> more surfaces than earlier versions of PT. Also, many more plug in
>>> parameters are now accessible in PT 11 and 12, with almost all, if not
>>> all waves plug in parameters being accessible with voice over. HTH
>>>
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 722
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:32 AM
>>> To: Pro Tools Accessibility
>>> Subject: Current situation with VoiceOver (PT 9/10/11/12)
>>>
>>> Hallo friends,
>>>
>>> I am not sure if I have actually posted here before, maybe I was just
>>> reading your posts. My name is Jakub and my blind collegue is running a
>>> studio based on the Pro Tools software. He is currently using Pro Tools 9
>>> on OS X Snow Leopard with Mackie Control Universal controllers. He uses
>>> VoiceOver to read Pro Tools (mostly mix window track views and AudioSuite
>>> plug-ins) and a special dedicated screed reader I have written for him to
>>> read the displays of his Mackie controllers.
>>>
>>> We are actually quite happy the things are working right now. However, to
>>> improve the performace of the Pro Tools system we might have to upgrade
>>> the computer hardware and thus the OS X version as well. And of course we
>>> will be forced to update Pro Tools. I did some very quick testing on PT
>>> 10 and 11 with Voice Over with mixed results - somewhere the plug-ins
>>> were not accessible anymore (mostly PT 10), on certain machines even the
>>> menus (insert / send assignments in mix window etc. - PT 11).
>>>
>>> I am sure I could find all the information in this forum but there are
>>> really many topics to read through. Would you please be so kind and just
>>> very quickly summarize for me (or send me links to the related posts)
>>> what is the current accessibility situation in PT 10, 11 and 12? Is Pro
>>> Tools 9 still worth keeping with regard to the VoiceOver performance we
>>> have? (We can read all avid plug-ins at the moment.)
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for you time!
>>>
>>>
>>> Jakub
>>>
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Re: Current situation with VoiceOver (PT 9/10/11/12)

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Jakub,

It's already been answered by now, but one more hand waving here
voting you toward PT 12.3. A lot of stuff got taken care of by Avid in
the last few versions.

As someone who has a Mackie Control here that doesn't get as much
usage as it should, I'm interested in finding out more about the
software you've written. If you have info to share, let us know man.

Scott

On 12/2/15, Stefan Albertshauser  wrote:
> Hello Jakub,
>
> If I were you, I would go to PT 12.3. There are lots of improvements
> concerning the accessibility with Voiceover. You now can read all meters
> and displays. The aax format is also accessible, so that you can read
> the plugin parameters. The midi event list also is accessible. These are
> all improvements, that weren't possible with Pro Tools 9.
>
> Hope, that helps.
>
> Best Stefan
>
>
> Am 02.12.2015 um 10:32 schrieb 722:
>> Hallo friends,
>>
>> I am not sure if I have actually posted here before, maybe I was just
>> reading your posts. My name is Jakub and my blind collegue is running
>> a studio based on the Pro Tools software. He is currently using Pro
>> Tools 9 on OS X Snow Leopard with Mackie Control Universal
>> controllers. He uses VoiceOver to read Pro Tools (mostly mix window
>> track views and AudioSuite plug-ins) and a special dedicated screed
>> reader I have written for him to read the displays of his Mackie
>> controllers.
>>
>> We are actually quite happy the things are working right now. However,
>> to improve the performace of the Pro Tools system we might have to
>> upgrade the computer hardware and thus the OS X version as well. And
>> of course we will be forced to update Pro Tools. I did some very quick
>> testing on PT 10 and 11 with Voice Over with mixed results - somewhere
>> the plug-ins were not accessible anymore (mostly PT 10), on certain
>> machines even the menus (insert / send assignments in mix window etc.
>> - PT 11).
>>
>> I am sure I could find all the information in this forum but there are
>> really many topics to read through. Would you please be so kind and
>> just very quickly summarize for me (or send me links to the related
>> posts) what is the current accessibility situation in PT 10, 11 and
>> 12? Is Pro Tools 9 still worth keeping with regard to the VoiceOver
>> performance we have? (We can read all avid plug-ins at the moment.)
>>
>> Thank you very much for you time!
>>
>>
>> Jakub
>>
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Kevin's tutorial on numpad editing

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi folks,

I've got a buddy who's just purchased Pro Tools. Collecting together a
few resources to help him get up and running, and I'm looking for a
link to Kevin's tutorial on numpad editing. Does anyone have it?

Cheers

Scott

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Re: EZ Drummer 2

[Scott Chesworth]

One more vote for Drummer in GarageBand, or Logic if you want to
export individual tracks. So far as I know there's nothing else out
there where the options to tinker with styles, patterns and whatnot on
the fly are usable with VoiceOver, and I suspect that's what Sean is
after. The actual samples aren't the best to my ears, but they're not
bad, and the workflow seemed like it'd make up for that going on the
brief bit of tinkering I got to do the other day. Alternatively there
are tons of good libraries of MIDI grooves which you can use to build
up a song structure and trigger using whatever sounds good to you.
That's what I've always done in PT previously, but really, it's not as
neat or quick of a workflow, and PT is less smart than some other DAWs
about syncing the project to embedded tempos and such.

Does SSD from Slate have any sort of nifty pattern editor or song
builder or whatever included? If so, is that also usable via a control
surface? I suspect the answer to both questions is no, but it's worth
an ask seeing as we've got a regular user commenting here.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Chris Smart  wrote:
> Nope, I have some of Slate's other things here, but not the drum software.
> If it's accessible, especially on the PC, I'd love to know.
>
> At 08:37 PM 11/12/2015, you wrote:
>>
>> Hey Chris.  I thought you were a Steven Slate Drums user?
>> If so, can you speak to it’s level of accessibility on Mac, windows,
>> etc?
>>
>> Kevin
>>
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Re: Valhalla room presets and Massey plugs, perhaps revisited

[Scott Chesworth]

Love the Valhalla stuff, but I only have the presets saved here as FXP
format I'm afraid dude. I do miss having that verb available in PT, so
will add it to the list of things I'd like to get done. If we both
keep the list posted, it might get done one day lol.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Poppa Bear  wrote:
> Is this the free Massy plugs? If so, then I have used them for the last few
> years.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Brian Casey
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 11:31 AM
> To: Abridged recipients
> Subject: Valhalla room presets and Massey plugs, perhaps revisited
>
> Has anyone had luck using the massey plugs and l2007 in particular in pt
> aax? Thought I had a thread saved where they were mentioned but can't find
> it, so apologies if I'm rehashing an old subject.
>
> I've downloaded the massey plugin manager but VO ain't reading much.
>
> I've been exclusively working only with stock plugs and outbboard since
> switching to pt last April but am going to start bringing in some specific
> outside help!
>
> Also if anyone here has valhalla room presets to share I'd appreciate a
> link, it will save me clogging the list with another post.
>
> I hhaven't had sight to save the custom Valhalla xml presets into aax
> presets yet. If nobody has them I'll post them when I eventually get time
> with someone!Sent from my smart-ish phone!
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Re: first impressions of upcoming accessible version of the iLok License Manager

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Slau,

Great news. If there's anything I can do re Windows testing, shout.
I'm spending time in Windows with multiple screen readers at the
moment for a few projects and the day job, would be happy to give it a
once-over and jot down some feedback.

Cheers

Scott


On 11/3/15, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> As I walked into the exhibit hall on opening day at AES, before I could take
> ten steps toward the Avid booth right by the entrance, I was intercepted by
> Andrew Kirk, vice-president at Pace. He gave me an update and told me a
> little about the behind-the-scenes stuff that had taken place over recent
> months leading up to the next release of the iLok License Manager. The
> process of porting ILM over to QT5 and concentrating on accessibility on
> both Mac and Windows has given the team a renewed sense of code pride. The
> release is still slated for mid-November.
>
> Today, I had a chance to take a look at the beta for version 2.6. Having
> used the original web interface, the concepts are certainly familiar but it
> still takes a bit to get used to it. They've included a number of keyboard
> shortcuts to help speed up the process and it works well. Of course, as Mr.
> Murphy would have it, the one dialog that still has a bit of a problem is
> the Activation dialog where one selects the iLok. In the current beta,
> there's a workaround which doesn't include verbal feedback of one step in
> the navigation but all other steps are clear and I've been able to
> consistently use that workaround. The bottom line is that there were still
> plans all along to do some more work on this dialog so I'm pretty sure that
> the issue will be resolved before it's released. Again, even if it didn't,
> the software is accessible in virtually every other sense and, with the
> work-around in the Activation dialog, it's completely useable. I'll probably
> have another beta version within a day or so and will give folks an update.
>
> By the time version 2.6 is released, I'll do an audio tutorial on how to
> navigate the software and activate/deactivate licenses, etc. and will post a
> link here. On the Windows front, we'll be testing it as well and I'm sure
> someone else can do a tutorial on that if necessary.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to share the preliminary news which looks extremely
> good. More to come as things develop.
>
> Slau
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Re: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the imminent release

[Scott Chesworth]

Exciting times. I bet the people at Slate will be pleased to see the
back of me lol. Thanks for keeping us informed Slau.

On 10/27/15, Gordon Kent  wrote:
> Another victory.  That is good news for
> sure.  Thanks for your hard work as always.
> Gord
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:07 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the
> imminent release
>
> FYI, Pace just informed us that the upcoming release of the iLok License
> Manager, version 2.6, will have support for screen readers on both Mac and
> windows. The migration from QT4 to QT5 was more work than they expected
> (which has nothing to do with accessibility, per se) and they did run into a
>
> few bugs to work around in the accessibility implementation built into QT5.
>
> This week, they're adding a number of keyboard shortcuts. As a result of the
>
> delays, the release of version 2.6 is going to be more like mid November
> which is only a little later than originally projected. All in all, good
> news.
>
> One thing to remember is that this first release is likely to have some
> issues and it won't be perfect out of the gate but, where there are
> problems, they'll get resolved in subsequent releases. Looking forward to
> having access once again…
>
> best,
>
> Slau
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Re: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the imminent release

[Scott Chesworth]

Hahaha, Oreo has a point of course. Still a long old road to hoe.

On 10/27/15, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> until a clean install and you need someone to load stuff into the rack
> to save a preset again lol
>
> On 10/27/15, Scott Chesworth <scottcheswo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Exciting times. I bet the people at Slate will be pleased to see the
>> back of me lol. Thanks for keeping us informed Slau.
>>
>> On 10/27/15, Gordon Kent <dbmu...@cybernex.net> wrote:
>>> Another victory.  That is good news for
>>> sure.  Thanks for your hard work as always.
>>> Gord
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Slau Halatyn
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:07 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: another update on iLok License Manager accessibility and the
>>> imminent release
>>>
>>> FYI, Pace just informed us that the upcoming release of the iLok License
>>> Manager, version 2.6, will have support for screen readers on both Mac
>>> and
>>> windows. The migration from QT4 to QT5 was more work than they expected
>>> (which has nothing to do with accessibility, per se) and they did run
>>> into
>>> a
>>>
>>> few bugs to work around in the accessibility implementation built into
>>> QT5.
>>>
>>> This week, they're adding a number of keyboard shortcuts. As a result of
>>> the
>>>
>>> delays, the release of version 2.6 is going to be more like mid November
>>> which is only a little later than originally projected. All in all, good
>>> news.
>>>
>>> One thing to remember is that this first release is likely to have some
>>> issues and it won't be perfect out of the gate but, where there are
>>> problems, they'll get resolved in subsequent releases. Looking forward
>>> to
>>> having access once again…
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> Slau
>>>
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Re: OT but relevant. Huge deal on twisted wave for 1 day.

[Scott Chesworth]

Just hopped on this. Sure it'll come in useful at some point. Thanks
for the heads up.

On 10/19/15, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
> Hey folks.
> This is slightly off topic, but relevant as some of us supplement our Pro
> Tools workflows with apps for post and batch conversion.
> There’s this incredibly light weight and accessible audio editor and batch
> converter  for mac called Twisted Wave.
> It sports tons of keyboard shortcuts and works much like SF.
> When I ran the demo, I was up and running in minutes after familiarizing
> myself with it’s features.
> It’s normally 80 bucks, but for today only, it’s  15.
> I’ve generated an incredibly easy link so you guys can grab it. head over to
> http://kevinreeves.net/wave .
> This deal is being offered via Cult of Mac. The cart tab is unlabeled, so
> once you’ve added to cart, search for and click the text “1 expanded.”
> This will bring up the cart page and you can check out without any
> problems.
> If you want to knock another $1.50 off, sign up for the cult of mac mailing
> list, and you’ll get a 10 percent off coupon code.
> Enjoy.
>
> Kevin
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Re: waves i r 1

[Scott Chesworth]

I think Chuck probably meant only customer as in only blind customer...



On 10/13/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> Chuck wrote:
>
> Waves think I'm just about the only person using there product out there
> though!
>
> Obviously, if they thought that, Chuck, then they'd not still be in
> business.  What would be the point of continuing a company for only one
> customer.  Last I heard, they were going very very strong, so yes, you're
> right...
>
> YMMV.  LOL!
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "CHUCK REICHEL" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: waves i r 1
>
>
> Hi Steve.
> First of all unless I missed it you don't state what version of pt your
> using & what controller your working with?
>
> This makes it a shot in the dark :) for accurate advice?
> I use the waves IR-L everyday with pt 9.03 and I got Waves to write a custom
>
> version of IR-L that my Control/24 works well with.
> Its a great reverb I can say this much.
> So what version of pt & what controller are you using?
> I haven't moved my waves stuff over to pt 12 yet, may be   somebody can
> chime in on this.
> I do know that the parameters do show up ;in pt 12 though from what I have
> heard.
> I have the Waves product manager contact info if you contact me off list, if
>
> you want to contact him?
> Waves think I'm just about the only person using there product out there
> though! :(
> So you guys join in and let them know Your out there???
> YMMV
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Steve Sparrow wrote:
>
>> Hey again. i’m playing around with the demo of the waves reverb plugging i
>>
>> r 1. can anyone tell me if this plug is accessible. it’s just i can’t seem
>>
>> to see a lot of parameters. I’ve got gain and wet dry, but not a lot else,
>>
>> i understand that the preset list requires sighted assistance to set up,
>> but i can’t see much in the plug in window. so just wondering if anyone
>> else uses the plug. it’s on special at the moment, and i’ll possibly grab
>>
>> it if it works well.
>> got a couple of days left on the demo.
>>
>> Steve
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Re: Mixing Drums Question

[Scott Chesworth]

You said instrument, so I'm not sure whether you meant instrument or
you wanted to know what I use for reinforcement. Instrument-wise I'm
using EZ Drummer 2 for stuff that needs to be up and running sounding
decent quickly. If it's a thing that I'll be spending enough time on
to not want it to be obvious I'm using fake drums, then I still go
back to version 1 of Addictive Drums. Addictive V2 sounds way, way
better out of the box, but all the accessibility went out the window.
For sample reinforcement, I'm using Slate Trigger 2 Platinum, and
usually leaning quite heavily on its ability to tune the sample to
match it up better with the original drum. That's partly because it's
a neat way to slip past some drummers who'll protest before hearing
the result, and partly because I'm sick of hearing the same old
presets being used by everyone from my mate Nigel through to
internationally touring bands. I guess Trigger just made it too damn
easy lol. Probably best to take this over to either RWP or the OSARA
course list if you want to get specific about accessibility on the
Windows side. Everything I've said here applies on both sides of the
fence though, so far as I'm aware.

Hth

Scott


On 10/10/15, Chris Smart  wrote:
> Hi Scott. I definitely agree re. enhancing with samples. I haven't done that
> so much, but I have boosted kick drum impact with the gated 50 HZ sine wave
> trick. (grin)
>
> Can I ask which drum sample instrument you are using? What would you
> recommend on the Windows side?
>
> Chris
>
>
> At 05:28 AM 10/10/2015, you wrote:
>>
>> +1 for Drum Leveler, and also for Kevin's idea of replacement based on
>> a sample of his own kit if you can find a decent hit that isn't
>> swamped in hats. It's also worth pointing out (although probably not
>> to the drummer himself) that reinforcement is very different from
>> replacement. I've done plenty of mixes for sample sensitive drummers
>> where the original sounds are still in there and featured pretty
>> heavily, but reinforced with a sample that isn't obnoxious enough to
>> trigger their alarm bells. This works especially well if you've got a
>> decent knowledge of frequencies and can carve out space for the
>> positive aspects of the original drum sound to poke through. Done
>> right, they get to hear what they like to hear of their original kit
>> sound, but you get more control by using the sample reinforcement to
>> control dynamics instead of processing the hell out of their original
>> kit sound.
>>
>> Hth a bit
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On 10/9/15, Chris Smart  wrote:
>> > Hi Slau. Drum Leveller is first on my list of plugs to get next, as soon
>> > as
>> > I have the funds!
>> >
>> > At 11:30 PM 10/8/2015, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Drum Leveler is phenomenal where other gates seem to fail. Of course,
>> >> decently recorded material to start with is a plus. Post a sample of
>> >> the
>> >> original and I'll try to treat it to illustrate.
>> >>
>> >> Slau
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 8, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Chris Smart  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi folks.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm trying to get rid of far too much hi-hat and other cymbal spill
>> >> > on a
>> >> > kick track and a snare track.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm out of ideas so thought I'd best ask the pros here.
>> >> >
>> >> > Usually I just gate the tracks themselves pretty heavily, or even
>> >> > sergically edit individual drum hits, maybe some automated EQ.  But,
>> >> > nothing I do seems to improve things much.
>> >> >
>> >> > The drummer is adamant that I do not, under any circumstances,
>> >> > replace
>> >> > with samples.
>> >> >
>> >> > So, is there some fancy and complex but powerful way to deal with
>> >> > cymbal
>> >> > bleed? Some fancy side-chain way to do this?
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks for any ideas.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chris
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Re: Mixing Drums Question

[Scott Chesworth]

+1 for Drum Leveler, and also for Kevin's idea of replacement based on
a sample of his own kit if you can find a decent hit that isn't
swamped in hats. It's also worth pointing out (although probably not
to the drummer himself) that reinforcement is very different from
replacement. I've done plenty of mixes for sample sensitive drummers
where the original sounds are still in there and featured pretty
heavily, but reinforced with a sample that isn't obnoxious enough to
trigger their alarm bells. This works especially well if you've got a
decent knowledge of frequencies and can carve out space for the
positive aspects of the original drum sound to poke through. Done
right, they get to hear what they like to hear of their original kit
sound, but you get more control by using the sample reinforcement to
control dynamics instead of processing the hell out of their original
kit sound.

Hth a bit

Scott


On 10/9/15, Chris Smart  wrote:
> Hi Slau. Drum Leveller is first on my list of plugs to get next, as soon as
> I have the funds!
>
> At 11:30 PM 10/8/2015, you wrote:
>>
>> Drum Leveler is phenomenal where other gates seem to fail. Of course,
>> decently recorded material to start with is a plus. Post a sample of the
>> original and I'll try to treat it to illustrate.
>>
>> Slau
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Chris Smart  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi folks.
>> >
>> > I'm trying to get rid of far too much hi-hat and other cymbal spill on a
>> > kick track and a snare track.
>> >
>> > I'm out of ideas so thought I'd best ask the pros here.
>> >
>> > Usually I just gate the tracks themselves pretty heavily, or even
>> > sergically edit individual drum hits, maybe some automated EQ.  But,
>> > nothing I do seems to improve things much.
>> >
>> > The drummer is adamant that I do not, under any circumstances, replace
>> > with samples.
>> >
>> > So, is there some fancy and complex but powerful way to deal with cymbal
>> > bleed? Some fancy side-chain way to do this?
>> >
>> > thanks for any ideas.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
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Re: Accessible way to run VST-plugins in Pro tools

[Scott Chesworth]

I don't know of an accessible VST wrapper unfortunately, but was
involved with the plugin you're talking about in its early stages and
have connected the developer with the right folks at Avid. Hopefully,
we'll see an AAX build of it emerge in due course.

Hth a bit

Scott

On 9/25/15, Stefan Albertshauser  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Today, I found an accessible peak meter, but it’s a VST/AU-plugin. Does
> anyone know an accessible way to run this under Pro Tools? I found some
> hosting plugins, but they are all inaccessible. Any ideas?
>
> Best Stefan
> Stefan Albertshauser
>
> Kirchenmusiker
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Re: brief update on iLok License Manager accessibility

[Scott Chesworth]

Only just seeing this now. Hurrah! Thanks for nudging and passing
along the news.

On 9/15/15, Chris Smart  wrote:
> that's excelent news Slau!
>
> At 10:47 AM 9/15/2015, you wrote:
>>
>> Some of you will recall that Pace had indicated that they were shooting
>> for AES at the end of October as a timeframe for some progress on the
>> accessibility front for the iLok License Manager. I recently contacted the
>> president of the company as a gentle reminder of his previous projection.
>>
>> Without getting into details, things seem to be on track for accessibility
>> support on both Mac and windows for version 2.6 to be released roughly the
>> end of October or early November. It's likely that the accessibility work
>> won't be 100% complete at that point but at least useable with subsequent
>> improvements in future releases. In the current Windows version 2.5,
>> there's support for authorization in a limited capacity but it was a good
>> first step for their primary programmer to go through the steps of
>> implementation. Pace will be moving to the new version of QT very soon and
>> that will help in general. The point is, things have progressed and we'll
>> see some results in the near future.
>>
>> Slau
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Re: Arming more than 1 track for recording.

[Scott Chesworth]

Eh, that's weird. Out of interest, can you shed any light on why
there's a difference with MIDI tracks?

Scott


On 9/10/15, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
> Others have had no issues arming more than one track. Before moving on, are
> we talking audio or MIDI tracks? For MIDI, you need to Shift-click on
> subsequent record buttons unless you're using a control surface.
>
> Slau
>
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:39 AM, studiojay 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, thanks for the replies, but even with the latch record
>> checkbox on, I can't arm more than 1 track. I tried both selecting the
>> tracks and pressing shift plus R, as well as navigating to the channel
>> strips and pressing the record button. Can someone please have a look at
>> this for me? Thanks,
>> Jason
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 4:02:52 PM UTC-4, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> Under the Operations tab of Preferences, go to the Record cluster and the
>> first item in there is a checkbox for "Latch Record Enable Buttons" which
>> should be checked.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Slau
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2015, at 12:07 PM, studiojay  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone, Can some one please remind me how to arm more than 1 track
>>> for recording in protools? When I arm different tracks, the previously
>>> armed track is disarmed. I want to do this using voiceover. Thanks in
>>> advance for any help.
>>> Jason
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Re: Arming more than 1 track for recording.

[Scott Chesworth]

Yeah, makes sense. Thanks man, I was looking for a reason to hopefully
make the difference stick in my mind. That should do it.

Scott

On 9/10/15, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> I'm not sure exactly why the difference. One theory I have is that, in
> general, people are usually using one controller to enter separate parts one
> track at a time. Surely, that's how most people record MIDI tracks 99% of
> the time. If people are stacking tracks, there's no point in recording the
> exact same MIDI data to multiple tracks for multiple synths when a composite
> can be made from one MIDI track sending the same data stream to several MIDI
> devices at the same time. So, it makes sense to me, in a way, that MIDI
> tracks are non-latching by default. Shift-clicking, as I mentioned, will
> enable multiple MIDI tracks for recording in a case, for example, where one
> might be transferring from a drum machine or Roland MC series or whatever to
> capture multiple parts simultaneously. That's my take.
>
> Slau
>
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Scott Chesworth <scottcheswo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Eh, that's weird. Out of interest, can you shed any light on why
>> there's a difference with MIDI tracks?
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/15, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>> Others have had no issues arming more than one track. Before moving on,
>>> are
>>> we talking audio or MIDI tracks? For MIDI, you need to Shift-click on
>>> subsequent record buttons unless you're using a control surface.
>>>
>>> Slau
>>>
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:39 AM, studiojay <overdriverecord...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone, thanks for the replies, but even with the latch record
>>>> checkbox on, I can't arm more than 1 track. I tried both selecting the
>>>> tracks and pressing shift plus R, as well as navigating to the channel
>>>> strips and pressing the record button. Can someone please have a look
>>>> at
>>>> this for me? Thanks,
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 4:02:52 PM UTC-4, Slau Halatyn
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>
>>>> Under the Operations tab of Preferences, go to the Record cluster and
>>>> the
>>>> first item in there is a checkbox for "Latch Record Enable Buttons"
>>>> which
>>>> should be checked.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>>
>>>> Slau
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 9, 2015, at 12:07 PM, studiojay <overdrive...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone, Can some one please remind me how to arm more than 1
>>>>> track
>>>>> for recording in protools? When I arm different tracks, the previously
>>>>> armed track is disarmed. I want to do this using voiceover. Thanks in
>>>>> advance for any help.
>>>>> Jason
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Re: Finally! Started Pro Tools for the first time!

[Scott Chesworth]

Have you already used iLok License Manager to sort out the iLok
authorization stuff? If not, that's probably what PT is displaying,
and that window isn't accessible yet. Note that this is for Pace to
fix, not Avid. If you're all set with iLok already, then perhaps this
is another instance where having no monitor connected is gonna cause
dodgy performance...

Hth narrow it down a bit

Scott

On 9/5/15, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:
> Finally I arrived to the stage of starding Pro Tools, is the first time! I
> installed the oficial  recommended Pro Tools version and respective Air
> creative colection. And made the suggested Mac  sistem preferences settings.
> But, dam... I wait, wait, wait, just say busy busy busy and unknown!?
> At the Doc, on Pro Tools tab sayAplication  not responding.
> Really... wasnt expecting this ...
> Any clue? or sugestions are very welcome please.
> Regards, Rui Vilarinho
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Re: Finally! Started Pro Tools for the first time!

[Scott Chesworth]

Nh, you're thinking about that other operating system. When in
doubt on Mac, repair permissions :P

On 9/6/15, Poppa Bear  wrote:
> Did you re boot, when in doubt, reboot IMO.
>
>
>
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rui Vilarinho
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:34 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Finally! Started Pro Tools for the first time!
>
>
>
> Finally I arrived to the stage of starding Pro Tools, is the first time! I
> installed the oficial  recommended Pro Tools version and respective Air
> creative colection. And made the suggested Mac  sistem preferences settings.
> But, dam... I wait, wait, wait, just say busy busy busy and unknown!?
>
> At the Doc, on Pro Tools tab sayAplication  not responding.
>
> Really... wasnt expecting this ...
>
> Any clue? or sugestions are very welcome please.
>
> Regards, Rui Vilarinho
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Re: Nudging selections without a numeric keypad

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Robin,

Glad you've found the correct shortcuts for nudging from the keyboard.
FYI though, you'll definitely want to pick up an external numpad if
you're going to make Pro Tools your daily driver. It's something I
can't really imagine living without. PT isn't as customizable as other
DAWs when it comes to keyboard shortcuts, and a heavy emphasis is
placed on the numpad.

Cheers

Scott

On 8/26/15, Robin Kipp mli...@robin-kipp.net wrote:
 Oh, bit of confusion here! Looks like the nudge commands on the keypad are -
 and +, not 1 and 2 like I wrote… Sorry for that! I’ve been reading
 PT-related stuff for quite a few hours now, seems like I got to the point
 where I start mixing things up… :-)
 Am 26.08.2015 um 19:18 schrieb Robin Kipp mli...@robin-kipp.net:

 Hi everyone,
 OK, so I’ve been able to record some stuff in PT 11, play around with
 various options and everything seems pretty good so far! Now, I actually
 wanted to select part of a track I recorded and then cut that out. I can
 make a selection with the down and up arrow keys just fine, but I’m having
 trouble nudging the selection for fine tuning. I know this can be done
 using keys 1 and 2 on a numeric keypad, but unfortunately since I’m using
 a Bluetooth keyboard there’s no numeric keypad that I can use… I’ve read
 that the period and comma keys can also be used to nudge forwards and
 backwards, but that doesn’t seem to work for me… Am I doing something
 wrong here, or could this be related to the other keyboard problem I’m
 having where command + spacebar won’t start recording?
 Many thanks to all of you for any hints! :-)
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Re: O.t using Main stage

[Scott Chesworth]

Gary Redfearn-Grey over on the logic accessibility list tinkered with
MainStage and wrote about his findings. You'll need to search the
archives.

Hth

Scott

On 8/21/15, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Never used it for a live gig, but it appears to be fully accessible. A few
 unlabelled buttons here and there, but you can usually use the help to
 figure out what they do. The only inaccessible part is during installation.
 When installed and ran for the first time, it’ll begin downloading
 additional content. However it appears to voiceover as a blank window.
 Leaving it for an hour or so, then force quitting it, then starting it again
 and leaving it until the password prompt appears is a suitable work around.




 On 21 Aug 2015, at 12:20, Ramy Moustafa ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello all:

 I know that this group is designed for Pro tools accessibility, but
 this is the only place for blind musicians that r using mac to produce
 there work.

 I need to use the Main stage software on my live Gigs. what about it's
 accessibility?  and what about it's behavior with us if anyone tried
 to use it on live concerts?

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Re: ProTools 12.0 with Braille Display

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Nope, meter information won't dynamically refresh on a Braille display
in this case. The meters output their readings to VoiceOver through an
accessibility API, and VoiceOver then decides to spit out that info as
speech, Braille or both depending on the choices made in VO prefs. IE,
because there's no direct link between Pro Tools and the Braille
display, the method of manually grabbing readings that you're used to
will be mirrored, just without the talky part.

For what it's worth, I very briefly tried a system for SADiE many year
ago that made heavy use of a Braille display. It was nice to have a
quieter environment when I was editing, but the thing I couldn't quite
wrap my head around was that my reading speed is always going to be
slower than the rate I can process synthetic speech at. It also felt
like I'd need to have grown an extra pair of hands to be properly
efficient. YMMV though, as a certain someone often says around these
parts ;)

Scott

On 7/22/15, Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hi Criss,

 As far as I have tried it, the braille display doesn’t refresh on the level
 meter.

 Best Stefan
 Am 21.07.2015 um 19:02 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland
 clgillan...@gmail.com:

 Guys,

 My best friend, Ben, is down here visiting for a while.  With him, he has
 brought along a Pacmate QX40 Classic original 40 cell braille display.  No
 pacmate as well I can play with, he left that at home... LOL!

 Anyway, later, I will be trying it out on the mac.  I'm using it right now
 on my Windows 8.1 laptop with JAWS 16.  I've been considering saving up
 for a display, but honestly, this is the first time that I really have
 experienced refreshable braille.  He's brought it before, and I've played
 with it a little, but I'm looking at this from a totally different
 perspective.  Rather than me just playing with it for fun like before, I'm
 really accodemically trying to use the thing as much as I can.  He's
 agreed to let me borrow it the whole time he's visiting, and he just got
 here two days ago, so he'll be here for a good while yet.

 My point is, being I'm a ProTools user, I am curious, in thestudio, have
 any of you all used a display while recording, or mixing/mastering, (over
 all, producing?)

 If so, I would like to know some of the benefits you all have found where
 having a display really helped give you good tactile feedback of certain
 things, and maybe you all can give me some little exercises to try so I
 can see in realtime how awesome it really can be to have this in
 combination with the Voiceover speech.

 Please realize that the reason I'm asking on this list specifically is
 because I'm not wanting examples in general.  I very specifically am
 asking about the display in conjunction with ProTools.  For example, does
 it make viewing meters in realtime a bit easier, etc.

 I understand not everyone will have this exact same display.  If you do,
 then all the better; please chime in.  I'm asking more though on a general
 level.

 Thank you so much for any thoughts you may can provide for me to try.

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Re: Ivory ii italian grand and uprights presets

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A dropbox folder perhaps?

I can't recall seeing any Ivory presets floating around publicly other
than the ones Slau made, which were the American Concert series.

Scott

On 7/22/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Hi, does anyone have presets for the Ivory ii italian grand and/or uprights?
 I've had a look on the Protools with Speech presets page but it only seems
 to have the American concert series. Also, the Protools with Speech presets
 page doesn't seem to have all the presets provided on this list, given that
 I and others have submitted a load of Waves presets and Stutter edit
 presets. I'm wondering if there's a more effective way of sharing them that
 doesn't rely on when Matt has time to upload them.

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Re: A delightful Avid support experience

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Hahahaha, I've so been where he was at with wanting to check a mix but
not having the iLok on me. Rage. All the rage. This is why I've been
so slow to embrace the Slate stuff. I totally dig the sound of the
plugins that I own, but hate the thought of being locked out of
sessions I'm working on if something goes south and there's no sighted
help on tap at that point, so I only end up using them sparingly. Even
when there is sighted assistance readily available here, sometimes I
struggle to get past feeling very demoralized about admitting that I
need people to click this or drag that just in order to do something
as simple as play this thing that it took me hours to kick into shape.

The problem here is that for legitimate users who buy stuff (of which
I am one more often than not), isn't any protection too much
protection? Whilst it doesn't prevent it entirely, iLok does do a
reasonable job of cutting down on piracy, so from a developer's
perspective, why bother reinventing the wheel? I honestly don't know
anybody who doesn't have to consider the accessibility implications
that's held out on plugin purchases indefinitely because they didn't
like the DRM used. It might take them longer to buy, they'll gripe and
moan until the cows come home once they have, but they still bought it
in the end. It's ugly, but it does pretty much serve it's purpose
doesn't it?

On 7/9/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 How appropriate that i found this this morning. (NSFW or don’t click if you
 are easily offended by words)
 Couldn’t agree more including the solution offered.▶ Plugin DRM SUCKS - You
 Deserve Better! - YouTube https://t.co/RSDnLyXIjM
 On Jul 8, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree.

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Smart mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:49 PM
 Subject: Re: A delightful Avid support experience

 LOL settle down.

 I hope we hear about some news soon on this front.

 At 02:56 PM 7/8/2015, you wrote:
 Then why did you ask to start with, if we're supposed to be quiet.  NO
 offense.  Don't lookat me.  I didn't let the cat outta the bag.

 Chris.

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 From: Chris Smart mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 2:42 PM
 Subject: Re: A delightful Avid support experience

 we were all told to just be quiet and be patient awhile ago. Who on here
 was working on this? Chuck? Slau? someone else?

 At 02:40 PM 7/8/2015, you wrote:
 The last couple of times I've pinged them a quick email to see whether
 there was any new news, I haven't had a response. Anyone else -
 perhaps with a direct contact higher up - had better luck?


 On 7/8/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca
 wrote:
  that's great to know.
 
  Question: have we heard anything new from Pace about iLok License
  manager
  accessibility?
 
  At 07:19 AM 7/8/2015, you wrote:
 
  I'm sure a lot of you have probably done this before, but today I
  called
  up Avid support because I didn't have anyone sighted to hand, I'd
  just
  formatted my computer, and I really could do with cracking on with
  a
  ProTools session. Without hesitation, they said they were happy to
  remotely control my comuter and do the Ilok activation for me. It
  took
  just a couple of minutes and now I'm up and running. Jupt thought
  I'd
  share this positive news with you all, in case you weren't aware of
  the
  possibility of this option.
 
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Re: some control surface questions

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Sure. They're the first result on a Google search for such a thing:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ptaccess

On 7/9/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 Does the group have archives that are searchable through the Google Groups
 pages?

 At 07:44 AM 7/9/2015, you wrote:

 i actually lost a lot of email, that's why i asked.

 On 7/8/2015 4:13 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

 The answers are pretty much the same as the last time you asked, and
 the time before, and the time before that. Hopefully you still have
 those discussions to refer to.

 HTH

 On 7/8/15, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys,

 Alright i am working on putting a system together.  I would like some
 input on control surfaces.  here is some of the stuff i wanna be able to
 do.
 edit voice and music tracks for radio production, cut copy, paste.  I
 would like something that has an audio scrub wheel.
 Is it possible to get a control surface that does all this in the 1000
 to 1500 dollar range?  Let me know.

 Thanks,
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Re: A delightful Avid support experience

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The last couple of times I've pinged them a quick email to see whether
there was any new news, I haven't had a response. Anyone else -
perhaps with a direct contact higher up - had better luck?


On 7/8/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 that's great to know.

 Question: have we heard anything new from Pace about iLok License manager
 accessibility?

 At 07:19 AM 7/8/2015, you wrote:

 I'm sure a lot of you have probably done this before, but today I called
 up Avid support because I didn't have anyone sighted to hand, I'd just
 formatted my computer, and I really could do with cracking on with a
 ProTools session. Without hesitation, they said they were happy to
 remotely control my comuter and do the Ilok activation for me. It took
 just a couple of minutes and now I'm up and running. Jupt thought I'd
 share this positive news with you all, in case you weren't aware of the
 possibility of this option.

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Re: DDP Fileset

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Chris,

If Hofa isn't accessible, three other solutions I saw coming up a lot
on forums last time I looked into this are as follows:
Sonoris DDP Creator
DSP Quattro
Wave Editor

I never got around to trying them out, but perhaps one of them is
accessible. At this end, I've avoided DDP for now by being a repeat
customer of a plant that's happy to accept sequenced waves and does a
decent job.

Sending you the Reaper specific stuff you asked for off list in a sec
for what that's worth, but honestly, I'd put your time into testing
those others. There's got to be a quicker/better way.

Scott

On 7/8/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 hmm interesting. I hope we can make it work on the Windows side.

 At 12:53 PM 7/8/2015, you wrote:

 He did yep, but a while after he posted another tutorial showing off
 some better standalone software he'd switched to using. He switched
 because he had the same experience, DDP generation the Reaper way
 sucks. No idea whether it's accessible, but the product he switched to
 can be found here:
 http://hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/cd-burn-ddp/

 If anyone takes it for a spin, please post your findings. It'd be good
 to have a third party accessible way to do this seeing as WaveBurner
 is hard to get hold of nowadays.

 Scott

 On 7/8/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
  I seem to remember Jon from reaper blog saying something similar and i
  think
  he ay have posted some tips/settings/etc somewhere to get one started
  doing
  that with reaper.
 
  On Jul 7, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I use Reaper for this when it can't be avoided. It's convoluted,
  buggy, unintuitive and generally a PITA. Just thought posting this
  might save someone else wasting time on that in future. And now, I'll
  go back to hoping for better answers...
 
  On 7/7/15, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
  ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
  shame. Time to find something else.
 
  On 7 Jul 2015, at 21:07, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Ashley,
 
  Unfortunately, I don't think it's available anymore. I still have it
  from
  an older version of Logic Studio and it's still kicking in Yosemite
  but
  I'm sure it'll probably never be updated again.
 
  Best,
 
  Slau
 
  On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:58 PM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
  ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
  Slau,
 
  Is Wave Burner still available as a download that you know of? I
  have
  logic pro X, and hence don’t have it and can’t find it in the
  app
  store.
  It seems as though as part of their ongoing efforts to kill the CD
  format
  (which are failing) apple have discontinued it?
 
 
  On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:54, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
   mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Chris,
 
  I use Wave Burner which does DDP. I've used it for a number of
  years
  and
  it works great. Ping me off list.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Slau
 
  On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
   mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
  Hi folks.
 
  What are people using to create DDP filesets for CD plants?
 
  I've always found plants willing to accept a wav+cue+md5 bundle in
  the
  past, but I have a plant involved in a current project who wants
  DDP,
  nothing else will do.
  Do I have any options re. DDP creation?
 
  I have an old commandline tool here under Windows but am hoping
  there
  is a more robust solution.
 
  If there's something on the Mac side that is accessible that you
  use,
  and you want to make a few bucks, send me an email.
 
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Re: A delightful Avid support experience

[Scott Chesworth]

Yep, only positive things to say from this end too. I've also been
doing this with third party plugin manufacturers with mostly good
results. Roll on the day we don't have to bother other people with
this type of admin of course, but for now, it works.

Scott

On 7/8/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 I'm sure a lot of you have probably done this before, but today I called up
 Avid support because I didn't have anyone sighted to hand, I'd just
 formatted my computer, and I really could do with cracking on with a
 ProTools session. Without hesitation, they said they were happy to remotely
 control my comuter and do the Ilok activation for me. It took just a couple
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Re: DDP Fileset

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He did yep, but a while after he posted another tutorial showing off
some better standalone software he'd switched to using. He switched
because he had the same experience, DDP generation the Reaper way
sucks. No idea whether it's accessible, but the product he switched to
can be found here:
http://hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/cd-burn-ddp/

If anyone takes it for a spin, please post your findings. It'd be good
to have a third party accessible way to do this seeing as WaveBurner
is hard to get hold of nowadays.

Scott

On 7/8/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I seem to remember Jon from reaper blog saying something similar and i think
 he ay have posted some tips/settings/etc somewhere to get one started doing
 that with reaper.

 On Jul 7, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I use Reaper for this when it can't be avoided. It's convoluted,
 buggy, unintuitive and generally a PITA. Just thought posting this
 might save someone else wasting time on that in future. And now, I'll
 go back to hoping for better answers...

 On 7/7/15, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 shame. Time to find something else.

 On 7 Jul 2015, at 21:07, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ashley,

 Unfortunately, I don't think it's available anymore. I still have it
 from
 an older version of Logic Studio and it's still kicking in Yosemite but
 I'm sure it'll probably never be updated again.

 Best,

 Slau

 On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:58 PM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Slau,

 Is Wave Burner still available as a download that you know of? I have
 logic pro X, and hence don’t have it and can’t find it in the app
 store.
 It seems as though as part of their ongoing efforts to kill the CD
 format
 (which are failing) apple have discontinued it?


 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:54, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chris,

 I use Wave Burner which does DDP. I've used it for a number of years
 and
 it works great. Ping me off list.

 Cheers,

 Slau

 On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
 mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:

 Hi folks.

 What are people using to create DDP filesets for CD plants?

 I've always found plants willing to accept a wav+cue+md5 bundle in
 the
 past, but I have a plant involved in a current project who wants
 DDP,
 nothing else will do.
 Do I have any options re. DDP creation?

 I have an old commandline tool here under Windows but am hoping
 there
 is a more robust solution.

 If there's something on the Mac side that is accessible that you
 use,
 and you want to make a few bucks, send me an email.

 thanks
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Re: some control surface questions

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The answers are pretty much the same as the last time you asked, and
the time before, and the time before that. Hopefully you still have
those discussions to refer to.

HTH

On 7/8/15, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey guys,

 Alright i am working on putting a system together.  I would like some
 input on control surfaces.  here is some of the stuff i wanna be able to
 do.
 edit voice and music tracks for radio production, cut copy, paste.  I
 would like something that has an audio scrub wheel.
 Is it possible to get a control surface that does all this in the 1000
 to 1500 dollar range?  Let me know.

 Thanks,
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Re: A delightful Avid support experience

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Well, the be patient advice has turned out to be valid hasn't it lol.
So far as I understood it, the be quiet component of the advice was
more in relation to threatening legal action and the like. People were
getting quite hot under the collar which is rarely a good way to
approach these things, particularly when combined with fragmentation.
I doubt pinging someone that you've had a dialogue with a quick email
every month or so to ask whether there's been any movement counts as
causing trouble, but Slau can slap my wrists if he sees it
differently.


On 7/8/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 we were all told to just be quiet and be patient awhile ago. Who on here was
 working on this? Chuck? Slau? someone else?

 At 02:40 PM 7/8/2015, you wrote:

 The last couple of times I've pinged them a quick email to see whether
 there was any new news, I haven't had a response. Anyone else -
 perhaps with a direct contact higher up - had better luck?


 On 7/8/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
  that's great to know.
 
  Question: have we heard anything new from Pace about iLok License
  manager
  accessibility?
 
  At 07:19 AM 7/8/2015, you wrote:
 
  I'm sure a lot of you have probably done this before, but today I
  called
  up Avid support because I didn't have anyone sighted to hand, I'd just
  formatted my computer, and I really could do with cracking on with a
  ProTools session. Without hesitation, they said they were happy to
  remotely control my comuter and do the Ilok activation for me. It took
  just a couple of minutes and now I'm up and running. Jupt thought I'd
  share this positive news with you all, in case you weren't aware of the
  possibility of this option.
 
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Re: How have you modified your studio for accessibility?

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Chuck,

Neat! If I ever get this music thing to a point where I'm working out
of one consistent space and it's mine to design, I'll definitely keep
this in mind.

Scott


On 7/4/15, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Scott,
 I use an external mixer dedicated to VoiceOver  talk back ,  to all my
 studio rooms.
 When I need to hear how the band is getting on I just pot up the talk back
 for the room I need to monitor and interject that feed into my cans.
 When it gets boring I just pot down that talk back feed  continue working
 the session! :)
 YMMV
 Chuck

 On Jul 3, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

 Hey Chris,

 Interesting question. I've found that people generally react to it
 initially in one of two ways. They're either blown away, or doubtful,
 it's rare that I've encountered the middle ground. If they're blown
 away, I tend to keep VoiceOver beamed into my ear as often as possible
 because I don't want them to get too used to the way I work and for it
 to not seem awesome to them anymore. Shallow motive perhaps, but done
 right, it works a treat. I'd rather admit that sometimes I've used
 this blindness thing to an advantage than have the cheap tricks be
 some sort of taboo topic. When it comes to the doubters, I prefer to
 keep VoiceOver quiet in the room to prove why the work came my way in
 straight up audio terms rather than bamboozling them into submission
 with weird workflows. It's fairer, and on a purely egotistical level
 it feels like more of an achievement if I do manage to alter their
 perception. Another reason I keep it quiet for the doubters is that
 I'm not as productive with VoiceOver as I'd like to be. Not claiming
 to be the world's biggest brain on this topic, but having put in
 plenty of hours of effort, I'm pretty sure that it's not me, it's the
 damn screen reader.

 Aside from the client's current mindset, I've noticed over time that
 the conversations taking place around me while I'm working can contain
 golden nuggets of wisdom about how a band functions psychologically,
 storm warnings if there be trouble afoot, where the project has been
 and where they'd like it to be headed etc, the list goes on. I miss
 out entirely on visual communication and most body language, so I like
 to absorb as much verbal communication as I can to stay aware. For
 some reason, I find it easier to separate my ears when VO is a little
 voice in my head rather than another voice competing for my attention
 in the room, so it makes it easier for me to process both streams of
 info without missing stuff. For anyone keeping count, that's one ear
 for VoiceOver jabber, another ear for eavesdropping, and no ears left
 for audio. Doh! The day that bands start receiving compulsory therapy
 from the NHS or science makes it possible to grow a third ear on my
 forehead, I'll start getting more done lol.

 Hth explain the thought processes a bit

 Scott


 On 7/3/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 Scott, are clients put off by you doing things differently, or
 fascinated? I
 bet it's the lattter. Are you just self-conscious about them hearing
 speech
 and maybe asking questions? (grin)

 At 12:54 PM 7/3/2015, you wrote:

 That's strange about Voice Over or any screen reader for that fact, I
 have
 never even given it much thought. I keep it at a low volume and if
 anything clients are always blown away and extremely respectful over
 the
 fact that I'm blind and running a small studio.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Scott Chesworth
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 2:58 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How have you modified your studio for accessibility?

 Hey Andy,

 I feel your pain, not a fan of having VoiceOver chattering away with
 clients in the room (unless they're the type to believe I'm some sort
 of wizard for coping, then every little helps to maintain the
 illusion lol). The solution here that seems to work well enough has
 been to use a control surface to cut down on the amount of chatter,
 and keep a set of earbuds at hand for those times when I need feedback
 from VoiceOver. Yeah, I know it's ridiculous to be sticking VO in your
 ears when you're working on audio. I usually go with just the one ear
 and the worst sealing earbuds I can find so they don't isolate much.
 Guessing it'll be quite a different experience for you though if
 you've got usable vision.

 On the control surface front, all I'll add is that there's a world of
 difference between a Nano Kontrol and something like a Mackie MCU.
 Although the capabilities are similar, the Nano Kontrol feels like
 working on a fiddly plastic thingy. It's handy when you need to be
 uber portable of course, but nothing like a console. If you've already
 used the C24, then I guess you're already aware that there's more out
 there control surface wise. I'm not a fan of the surface integration
 in some DAWs

Re: Standing at a crossroads PT or logic in the future?

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Dave,

Pitch 'N Time is a third party plugin from Serato. I prefer the audio
results that gives over elastic audio, but seems the gap has somewhat
narrowed nowadays, it's primarily just the habit of doing certain
things certain ways here. Pretty sure Slau has written a post on its
accessibility, so it'd be worth a search of the archives to uncover
his wisdom. He is most wise.

Hth

Scott


On 7/3/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Thanks Scott. Looks like a combination of Reaper and Protools is probably my
 overall focus for now, but good to know that accessibility is reasonable in
 Logic. When you say pitch time what exactly are you talking about? I ask
 because my current solution for time stretching audio is making changes in
 the tempo ruler. This works great, unless you want to time stretch different
 tracks to different tempos. I am working on a crazy DJ project, and I'm
 doing a lot of time stretching on multiple tracks. As for pitch changes, I
 tend to do that by creating a region, then using the elastic audio window in
 the clips menu.

 Just making sure there itn't a more productive in doing time stretching iq
 PT. Thanks for your help.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3 Jul 2015, at 12:35, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 There's no native support for VST in Logic X. There are wrappers, but
 no idea of their accessibility. In any case, the stock synths are
 pretty sweet.

 The MIDI events list isn't accessible yet in terms of VoiceOver
 talking, but there's a good walkthrough of how a chap called Gary
 Readfern-Grey tweaks his performances without requiring speech
 feedback in the archives of the Logic Accessibility Google group.

 Time stretching sounds about the same in both DAWs from the little
 I've played with it. Pitch n Time is still your best bet here IMO.

 On control surfaces, yes Logic supports a wider range of hardware via
 MIDI learn, although I don't think the MIDI learn process itself is
 accessible yet. I'd still say the surface integration goes deeper and
 is neater in PT, but that could just be me being an old dog being
 grumpy about new tricks. I guess once MIDI learn is accessible you'll
 be able to get a more definitive answer on that front.

 Hth a bit

 Scott

 On 7/3/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Hi, thanks for all this information. I don't plan on leaving ProTools,
 but
 it might be nice to have another option. Perhaps Logic might work better
 for
 midi and time stretching. Plus, perhaps it also supports VST, and maybe
 even
 works better with a control surface, given that it probably has a midi
 learn
 feature. And I assume that Logic is likely to get more accessible over
 time.
 So perhaps I'll give Logic a spin, and use it in conjunction with
 ProTools.
 Thanks for this.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 2 Jul 2015, at 22:53, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 i am interested in mainstage, please can you do a tutorial. thanks
 On 02 Jul 2015, at 11:09 pm, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Perfect. The MainStage and Logic instrument sets are identical. I will
 dig in next week and see how i get on. I may develop some tutorials
 for
 MainStage if anyone is interested.


 On 2 Jul 2015, at 21:30, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ashley,

 MainStage does have a learning curve but not a steep one.  I am told
 that it is pretty much accessible and all of the instruments
 downloaded
 with MainStage should work with Logic or GarageBand.
 HTH.
 kr
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
 Taylor.






 On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:02 PM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Thanks Keith, this looks great. I’ll definitely be checking this
 out.

 On a somewhat related note, Does anyone use MainStage along with
 ProTools or Logic? I’d quite like to use MainStage for live
 performances. Are their any major accessibility issues there?
 (apologies for the somewhat off-topic question)



 On 2 Jul 2015, at 19:15, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ashley,

 Here is a link for info that will give you a start with Logic,
 http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/Logic%20With%20Voiceover/
 HTH.
 Keith Reedy
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J
 Hudson
 Taylor.






 On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:03 AM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools
 Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:

 What’s the best resource for getting started with logic
 accessibility? I do have Logic Pro X, purely because i needed it
 to
 open some projects. I’d love to learn how to use it properly but
 unsure where is best to start. Any suggestions? Is there anything
 that we can’t do

Re: How have you modified your studio for accessibility?

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Chris,

Interesting question. I've found that people generally react to it
initially in one of two ways. They're either blown away, or doubtful,
it's rare that I've encountered the middle ground. If they're blown
away, I tend to keep VoiceOver beamed into my ear as often as possible
because I don't want them to get too used to the way I work and for it
to not seem awesome to them anymore. Shallow motive perhaps, but done
right, it works a treat. I'd rather admit that sometimes I've used
this blindness thing to an advantage than have the cheap tricks be
some sort of taboo topic. When it comes to the doubters, I prefer to
keep VoiceOver quiet in the room to prove why the work came my way in
straight up audio terms rather than bamboozling them into submission
with weird workflows. It's fairer, and on a purely egotistical level
it feels like more of an achievement if I do manage to alter their
perception. Another reason I keep it quiet for the doubters is that
I'm not as productive with VoiceOver as I'd like to be. Not claiming
to be the world's biggest brain on this topic, but having put in
plenty of hours of effort, I'm pretty sure that it's not me, it's the
damn screen reader.

Aside from the client's current mindset, I've noticed over time that
the conversations taking place around me while I'm working can contain
golden nuggets of wisdom about how a band functions psychologically,
storm warnings if there be trouble afoot, where the project has been
and where they'd like it to be headed etc, the list goes on. I miss
out entirely on visual communication and most body language, so I like
to absorb as much verbal communication as I can to stay aware. For
some reason, I find it easier to separate my ears when VO is a little
voice in my head rather than another voice competing for my attention
in the room, so it makes it easier for me to process both streams of
info without missing stuff. For anyone keeping count, that's one ear
for VoiceOver jabber, another ear for eavesdropping, and no ears left
for audio. Doh! The day that bands start receiving compulsory therapy
from the NHS or science makes it possible to grow a third ear on my
forehead, I'll start getting more done lol.

Hth explain the thought processes a bit

Scott


On 7/3/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 Scott, are clients put off by you doing things differently, or fascinated? I
 bet it's the lattter. Are you just self-conscious about them hearing speech
 and maybe asking questions? (grin)

 At 12:54 PM 7/3/2015, you wrote:

 That's strange about Voice Over or any screen reader for that fact, I have
 never even given it much thought. I keep it at a low volume and if
 anything clients are always blown away and extremely respectful over the
 fact that I'm blind and running a small studio.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Scott Chesworth
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 2:58 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How have you modified your studio for accessibility?

 Hey Andy,

 I feel your pain, not a fan of having VoiceOver chattering away with
 clients in the room (unless they're the type to believe I'm some sort
 of wizard for coping, then every little helps to maintain the
 illusion lol). The solution here that seems to work well enough has
 been to use a control surface to cut down on the amount of chatter,
 and keep a set of earbuds at hand for those times when I need feedback
 from VoiceOver. Yeah, I know it's ridiculous to be sticking VO in your
 ears when you're working on audio. I usually go with just the one ear
 and the worst sealing earbuds I can find so they don't isolate much.
 Guessing it'll be quite a different experience for you though if
 you've got usable vision.

 On the control surface front, all I'll add is that there's a world of
 difference between a Nano Kontrol and something like a Mackie MCU.
 Although the capabilities are similar, the Nano Kontrol feels like
 working on a fiddly plastic thingy. It's handy when you need to be
 uber portable of course, but nothing like a console. If you've already
 used the C24, then I guess you're already aware that there's more out
 there control surface wise. I'm not a fan of the surface integration
 in some DAWs, but think that Pro Tools pretty much nails it. If DAW
 Controller on your iPad doesn't work out for any reason, I'd guess
 it'd be time and money well spent for you to pick up a used MCU or
 similar and spend some time with it. Or, a buddy of mine who has some
 rapidly declining but still usable vision has just switched to using
 an X32 because the accompanying iOS and Android apps are killer. Might
 not be appropriate for you if you've already got better I/O, but for
 him it works out well because he does a lot of live stuff and couldn't
 see what the band were signaling for anymore. This way he can potter
 about on stage talking to them during sound check and set up their
 monitor

Re: Can ipad bring more accessibility to our mac DAW?

[Scott Chesworth]

Keep us posted if you pick it up and can test with VoiceOver. My
experience of a few other similar apps is that even if their static
GUI is accessible, they don't seem to pass dynamic values through to
VO. Maybe DAW Remote will be one that's usable though.

Cheers

Scott

On 7/2/15, Velcro Lewis velcrole...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was going to check out DAW Remote by Xiao Yixiyang for iPad and iPhone.
 It features a transport and mixer and uses your network wifi and bluetooth.
 I am interested in it because sitting in front of the computer really
 strains my eyes and concentration after a few hours.
 Using the Zoom while sitting on the couch for play back and basic mixing
 could help give me eyes a rest.
 No idea if it works with VoiceOver.

 review video:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkJY2GCFg3k



 If I get it soon I will share my input.
 On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 8:55:51 AM UTC-5, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

 Hello all musicians:
 Someone is selling his Ipad mini in a very low price. and I need to
 ask you if ipad will bring any extra accessibility to our mac and pro
 tools? by connecting it to mac via USB or something?

 thanks for your help


 --
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 Music instructor @:
 Faculty ofmusical education
 Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
 Harmony Recording Studio
 https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg


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Re: How have you modified your studio for accessibility?

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Andy,

I feel your pain, not a fan of having VoiceOver chattering away with
clients in the room (unless they're the type to believe I'm some sort
of wizard for coping, then every little helps to maintain the
illusion lol). The solution here that seems to work well enough has
been to use a control surface to cut down on the amount of chatter,
and keep a set of earbuds at hand for those times when I need feedback
from VoiceOver. Yeah, I know it's ridiculous to be sticking VO in your
ears when you're working on audio. I usually go with just the one ear
and the worst sealing earbuds I can find so they don't isolate much.
Guessing it'll be quite a different experience for you though if
you've got usable vision.

On the control surface front, all I'll add is that there's a world of
difference between a Nano Kontrol and something like a Mackie MCU.
Although the capabilities are similar, the Nano Kontrol feels like
working on a fiddly plastic thingy. It's handy when you need to be
uber portable of course, but nothing like a console. If you've already
used the C24, then I guess you're already aware that there's more out
there control surface wise. I'm not a fan of the surface integration
in some DAWs, but think that Pro Tools pretty much nails it. If DAW
Controller on your iPad doesn't work out for any reason, I'd guess
it'd be time and money well spent for you to pick up a used MCU or
similar and spend some time with it. Or, a buddy of mine who has some
rapidly declining but still usable vision has just switched to using
an X32 because the accompanying iOS and Android apps are killer. Might
not be appropriate for you if you've already got better I/O, but for
him it works out well because he does a lot of live stuff and couldn't
see what the band were signaling for anymore. This way he can potter
about on stage talking to them during sound check and set up their
monitor mixes from the iPad. He throws up a couple of extra mics at
strategic unobtrusive points on stage that feed to him instead of
front of house so that they can ask for tweaks during the show if
necessary. The musos seem to like it, feedback has been really good.

Digging the vintage guitar tones I heard from a quick poke at the
first site on your list. Good luck man.

Scott


On 7/2/15, Velcro Lewis velcrole...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Mac-

 I have a Korg Nano Kontroller and I think it works fine when I have the
 patience for it. I mix using the console sometimes and prefer the sliding
 by hand. The Korg surface is very touchy and unlike the Avid C24 that I
 have used it doesn't follow the automation which I prefer. VoiceOver on the

 other is very distracting especially if I have a client in row control room

 with me.

 I've been using Pro Tools since '98 and I guess I'm just used to it.
 I think I'll need some hands-on training with VoiceOver and ProTools in
 order to get comfortable.
 In the meantime I'm gonna be an old grump and stick to what I've got.





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Re: Standing at a crossroads PT or logic in the future?

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Dave,

There's no native support for VST in Logic X. There are wrappers, but
no idea of their accessibility. In any case, the stock synths are
pretty sweet.

The MIDI events list isn't accessible yet in terms of VoiceOver
talking, but there's a good walkthrough of how a chap called Gary
Readfern-Grey tweaks his performances without requiring speech
feedback in the archives of the Logic Accessibility Google group.

Time stretching sounds about the same in both DAWs from the little
I've played with it. Pitch n Time is still your best bet here IMO.

On control surfaces, yes Logic supports a wider range of hardware via
MIDI learn, although I don't think the MIDI learn process itself is
accessible yet. I'd still say the surface integration goes deeper and
is neater in PT, but that could just be me being an old dog being
grumpy about new tricks. I guess once MIDI learn is accessible you'll
be able to get a more definitive answer on that front.

Hth a bit

Scott

On 7/3/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Hi, thanks for all this information. I don't plan on leaving ProTools, but
 it might be nice to have another option. Perhaps Logic might work better for
 midi and time stretching. Plus, perhaps it also supports VST, and maybe even
 works better with a control surface, given that it probably has a midi learn
 feature. And I assume that Logic is likely to get more accessible over time.
 So perhaps I'll give Logic a spin, and use it in conjunction with ProTools.
 Thanks for this.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 2 Jul 2015, at 22:53, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 i am interested in mainstage, please can you do a tutorial. thanks
 On 02 Jul 2015, at 11:09 pm, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Perfect. The MainStage and Logic instrument sets are identical. I will
 dig in next week and see how i get on. I may develop some tutorials for
 MainStage if anyone is interested.


 On 2 Jul 2015, at 21:30, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ashley,

 MainStage does have a learning curve but not a steep one.  I am told
 that it is pretty much accessible and all of the instruments downloaded
 with MainStage should work with Logic or GarageBand.
 HTH.
 kr
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 Taylor.






 On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:02 PM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Thanks Keith, this looks great. I’ll definitely be checking this out.

 On a somewhat related note, Does anyone use MainStage along with
 ProTools or Logic? I’d quite like to use MainStage for live
 performances. Are their any major accessibility issues there?
 (apologies for the somewhat off-topic question)



 On 2 Jul 2015, at 19:15, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ashley,

 Here is a link for info that will give you a start with Logic,
 http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/Logic%20With%20Voiceover/
 HTH.
 Keith Reedy
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
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 Taylor.






 On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:03 AM, 'ashley cox' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:

 What’s the best resource for getting started with logic
 accessibility? I do have Logic Pro X, purely because i needed it to
 open some projects. I’d love to learn how to use it properly but
 unsure where is best to start. Any suggestions? Is there anything
 that we can’t do with logic that makes using it a deal breaker?


 On 2 Jul 2015, at 13:59, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
 wrote:

 Hello good people on both lists.
 Firstly i’m sorry for the cross post but as it pertains to both
 lists i thought it best to post to both lists.
 I currently run Protools v11.3 with no problems, however v12 is now
 out and when the next major upgrade comes, i’ve heard a rumor about
 the Digi003 possibly not being supported by it,which leads me to
 wonder should i take the plunge, sell off my Digi003 while there’s
 still time and try learning logic? I’ve heard varying stories about
 how accessible Logic is. It’s apparently got a truckload of soft
 synths and the Drummer sounds cool to me but is the learning curve
 worth the struggle? Much of the reason why i ask is that getting a
 new control surface that is as good as the Digi003 is is way out of
 the question for me with my budget so just wondering what to do.
 Thanks for taking the time to read this question that maybe just
 silly but if anyone wants to give advise i’d be grateful.
 /Krister

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Re: Can ipad bring more accessibility to our mac DAW?

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Nope.

On 6/28/15, Ramy Moustafa ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all musicians:
 Someone is selling his Ipad mini in a very low price. and I need to
 ask you if ipad will bring any extra accessibility to our mac and pro
 tools? by connecting it to mac via USB or something?

 thanks for your help


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Re: QuizTones App for iOS

[Scott Chesworth]

Thanks for the list of unlabeled buttons. I had this on my phone, but
never got around to investigating much once I saw a few missing labels
and bummed out on a few questions. Now I know why lol.

Gonna give the developer a shout and see if those labels can be fixed up.

Scott

On 6/24/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 Follow-up:

 For the Equalization exercises, the three buttons at the bottom are:

 repeat sound indefinitely
 play sound
 Play affected sound (with cut or boost)

 So, toggle the first and third buttons ON, and you can guess frequency to
 your heart's content.

 At 04:31 PM 6/24/2015, Chris Smart wrote:

 Hi folks.

 I just started playing with an app called Quiztones. It claims to be audio
 training for aspiring engineers - frequency identification, louder versus
 softer, identifying various EQ bands etc. It's similar to what you get by
 working through Bob Molton's Golden Ears CD's, except you are scored by
 the app as you answer questions.  In-app purchases unlock things like
 identifying narrower EQ bands (1/3 octave) and I imagine more will be
 added in time as people request things.

 I'd like to see questions on fast versus slow compressor attack and
 release times, reverb type (plate, spring, chamber, room or hall),
 questions on phasing etc.

 Anyway, this looks promising. I've only played with it a little and will
 post a propper review over at www.applevis.com once I've spent more time
 with it.

 I'd say it's about 85% accessible.  Question choices are accessible - if
 you think 500HZ is being boosted rather than 1K 2K etc., you just swipe to
 it and double-tap.  However, the button to play the tones, musical
 examples or pink noise for each question are not labeled yet.

 For the pure sine wave questions - frequency identification - there's a
 single unlabeled button at the bottom of the screen. Just double-tap that
 to hear the tone. Obviously, use something flat for this - you won't hear
 a 16K tone on your cheap Apple earpods. (grin)

 For the equalization questions where you're using music or pink noise as
 test material, there are three unlabeled buttons. The second or middle
 button plays the music or pink noise without any change, i.e. without any
 boost or cut. You have to hit the third or right-most button to hear the
 same material with the boost or cut, so you can then answer the question.

 Just search for Quiztones in the app store.

 Chris



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Re: Artis mix control surface, or mackie or what?

[Scott Chesworth]

Yep, that's who I was talking to on Twitter. And nope, you spelled his
name fine.

Scott

On 6/21/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 Derek Lane, I may have spelled his last name wrong, is using an X32 and
 loves it.

 At 07:59 AM 6/21/2015, you wrote:

 Hey Jason,

 I'm not Kevin obviously, and haven't actually used an X32 yet, just
 been researching the hell out of it too. From a discussion on Twitter,
 I can tell you that the menus don't wrap, so it'll be possible to take
 notes on them and count. If I pull the trigger on it, I'll get some
 sighted assistance to put together a text version of the menus, and
 will be happy to share that assuming nobody gets there in the
 meantime. Apparently the iOS app is mostly accessible other than
 editing individual FX patches, which is pretty easy from the board
 itself according to the blind chap I was tweeting with.

 Hth a bit

 Scott

 On 6/20/15, Jason kistler.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
  Wanted to get in on this discussion and post some info and my 2 cents.
   First, Kevin, thank you for posting this...this X32 producer seems like
  exactly what I have been looking for in a control surface/audio
  interface/digital mixer combo.  I wanted to take the opportunity to post
  some info here because I have been researching the x32 producer all week
  to
 
  determine if I am going to pull the trigger and buy this bad boy.  It is
  a
  full mixer/audio interface with 32 in and 32 out channels into pro
  tools.
   This is done via USB.  It has 16 mic preamps and 17 motorized faders.
  8
  are ins and 8 are outs plus the final is master, but since it is a
  digital
  mixer you can remap these faders to whatever you want.  The 32 in 32 out
  audio interface to pro tools means you could record in to the computer
  with
 
  the mixer inputs, then simply route the pro tools channels right back
  out
  via the USB and actually do your mixing on the board itself without even
  using it as a control surface.  With the mortised faders this alone
  would
  be great for me.  But on top of this, it can use either HUI or Mackie
  control to send signals to pro tools via the USB as a controller.  It
  also
  has a standard MIDI connection so you can hook up additional MIDI
  gear...however I believe it is only 16X16 so if you needed more than
  that
  you would have to buy an additional MIDI interface.  I have listened to
  demos of the built in effects in this board and they are very nice.
  This
  board also has an additional separate USB bus that you can use to output
  a
  stereo mix to...either to a USB stick or an actual USB external drive.
  It
  has the ability to be controlled by Behringer's software on Mac or PC
  but
  don't bother...not accessible at all...at least on the MAC.  I do not
  know
  about the IOS app because you have to be connected to one in order to
  use
  it.  Price is $1500 which is excellent considering my previous TASCAM
  FW1884 which is no longer supported by anyone cost almost this price bra
  new and provided a much smaller feature set.
  One question I did have for Kevin:
  I am assuming since you mentioned these boards that you have used them.
   Can you comment as to the use of the menu system for the board
  internal.
   Obviously since it is a digital mixer many of the more advanced
  features
  are in menus...I am sure they are not accessible but have you found that
  after maybe some memorization that you could navigate at least some of
  them?  Thanks for any info and hope this helps someone.
 
  On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 7:00:49 AM UTC-4, Kevin Reeves wrote:
 
  The X touch is not a touch screen. It's a full 8 fader surface.
  Also, it has better components than the BCF. The BCF doesn't support
  touch automation, so you end up fighting with the fader if you're
  trying
  to rewrite automation moves.
 
  The BCF was made at a time when Behrenger was known for making cheap
  hardware. There's been a shakeup at the company, and as a few years
  ago,
  the build quality of their products, especially anything related to the
  X32 series, which includes the X Touch control surface, has greatly
  improved.
  Speaking of the X32, that is another option for a control
  surface/interface combo. The X32 producer, which is the same price as 1
  of the artist mix surfaces, gives you 8 motorized faders, 16 xlr ins, a
  ton of routing options, ,effects, etc. As a guy who once advised folks
  to never let Behrenger become part of the signal chain, I'm actually
  considering this as my main studio board because of the feature set and
  Midas Mic Pres.
  Hope this helps.
 
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Re: Artis mix control surface, or mackie or what?

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Jason,

I'm not Kevin obviously, and haven't actually used an X32 yet, just
been researching the hell out of it too. From a discussion on Twitter,
I can tell you that the menus don't wrap, so it'll be possible to take
notes on them and count. If I pull the trigger on it, I'll get some
sighted assistance to put together a text version of the menus, and
will be happy to share that assuming nobody gets there in the
meantime. Apparently the iOS app is mostly accessible other than
editing individual FX patches, which is pretty easy from the board
itself according to the blind chap I was tweeting with.

Hth a bit

Scott

On 6/20/15, Jason kistler.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wanted to get in on this discussion and post some info and my 2 cents.
  First, Kevin, thank you for posting this...this X32 producer seems like
 exactly what I have been looking for in a control surface/audio
 interface/digital mixer combo.  I wanted to take the opportunity to post
 some info here because I have been researching the x32 producer all week to

 determine if I am going to pull the trigger and buy this bad boy.  It is a
 full mixer/audio interface with 32 in and 32 out channels into pro tools.
  This is done via USB.  It has 16 mic preamps and 17 motorized faders.  8
 are ins and 8 are outs plus the final is master, but since it is a digital
 mixer you can remap these faders to whatever you want.  The 32 in 32 out
 audio interface to pro tools means you could record in to the computer with

 the mixer inputs, then simply route the pro tools channels right back out
 via the USB and actually do your mixing on the board itself without even
 using it as a control surface.  With the mortised faders this alone would
 be great for me.  But on top of this, it can use either HUI or Mackie
 control to send signals to pro tools via the USB as a controller.  It also
 has a standard MIDI connection so you can hook up additional MIDI
 gear...however I believe it is only 16X16 so if you needed more than that
 you would have to buy an additional MIDI interface.  I have listened to
 demos of the built in effects in this board and they are very nice.  This
 board also has an additional separate USB bus that you can use to output a
 stereo mix to...either to a USB stick or an actual USB external drive.  It
 has the ability to be controlled by Behringer's software on Mac or PC but
 don't bother...not accessible at all...at least on the MAC.  I do not know
 about the IOS app because you have to be connected to one in order to use
 it.  Price is $1500 which is excellent considering my previous TASCAM
 FW1884 which is no longer supported by anyone cost almost this price bra
 new and provided a much smaller feature set.
 One question I did have for Kevin:
 I am assuming since you mentioned these boards that you have used them.
  Can you comment as to the use of the menu system for the board internal.
  Obviously since it is a digital mixer many of the more advanced features
 are in menus...I am sure they are not accessible but have you found that
 after maybe some memorization that you could navigate at least some of
 them?  Thanks for any info and hope this helps someone.

 On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 7:00:49 AM UTC-4, Kevin Reeves wrote:

 The X touch is not a touch screen. It's a full 8 fader surface.
 Also, it has better components than the BCF. The BCF doesn't support
 touch automation, so you end up fighting with the fader if you're trying
 to rewrite automation moves.

 The BCF was made at a time when Behrenger was known for making cheap
 hardware. There's been a shakeup at the company, and as a few years ago,
 the build quality of their products, especially anything related to the
 X32 series, which includes the X Touch control surface, has greatly
 improved.
 Speaking of the X32, that is another option for a control
 surface/interface combo. The X32 producer, which is the same price as 1
 of the artist mix surfaces, gives you 8 motorized faders, 16 xlr ins, a
 ton of routing options, ,effects, etc. As a guy who once advised folks
 to never let Behrenger become part of the signal chain, I'm actually
 considering this as my main studio board because of the feature set and
 Midas Mic Pres.
 Hope this helps.

 Kevin


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Re: Melodyne

[Scott Chesworth]

The gf has limitless patience but very limited time. I have the polar
opposite lol.

Keep me posted on what you learn about Bias. I had a good conversation
with a chap in their US support team. They know diddly squat about
accessibility as things stand, but might be able to work on it. I've
sent them in a screen capture video that gives a quick demo of how I
use some other amp sims via automation parameters and showing them
that currently Bias gives me nothing to work with, but that was
specific to Windows. It'd be nice to be able to tell them that it'd be
less work for them to tackle OS X, and it might get me doing more
tracking in PT again.

Cheers

Scott

On 6/17/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 That being said, if the GF has the patience i think you should consider
 giving keyboard maestro a look when you get a chance.
 On Jun 17, 2015, at 5:15 AM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Unless it's changed since Mavericks, VoiceOvers hotspot function can
 only be bound to GUI elements that are already visible to VO. Useful
 for cutting down the amount of button bashing for sure, but not really
 comparable. Has that changed?

 I'd be really interested to read about how you got those presets saved
 without sighted assistance if you get a few spare mins to write about
 it. I'm lucky because I can always ask for assistance via the
 girlfriend, but would rather do that type of gruntwork independently
 if it's possible.

 Scott

 On 6/17/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Voice over does have a basic hot spotting functionality which can be
 useful.
 it along with some of VO’s other advanced features not found in other
 screen
 readers made it possible for me to convert  all the Nectar, Alloy and
 Ozone
 presets into Reaper presets without sighted assistance. That being said
 from
 all i read up on keyboard metro it seems to be very comparable to HSC as
 a
 fuller solution.  But as the blind community is smaller here, and as
 such
 less niche revenue to be made from selling maestro sets (if its even
 possible to sell them on anything other than the honor system) means no
 one
 has yet bother to take the time to make and or share much sets yet.
 After
 all most seem to be content with just dual booting and going back to
 windows
 when they hit a proverbial wall on OS X. Not a put down, but when you
 got
 paid word to do its easier to go back to what you know works than try to
 forge ahead. Also situations like the one Slau described also exist  on
 windows and are there is some stuff you can HSC your way around last i
 checked.  Alas there is the classic chicken and egg problem, while our
 numbers are low, and there isn’t the monetary incentive like there is
 with
 HSC, we’ll be slowly chipping away at these holes, , but the numbers
 probably won’t grow till more of the holes get filled in.

 That being said, The waves stuff seem to be accessible these days Waves
 Tune
 may be worth a look then. Some people say they had success with AutoTune
 on
 here as well, and from what little i attempted to use them (i don’t have
 perfect pitch so i don’t do much pitch correction work) Nectar’s Pitch
 Correction and Harmony stuff seems like its workable with VO. And for
 what
 it’s worth if its simple touch ups, the elastic audio and pitch plug in
 tools in Pro Tools is available. So if you don’t specifically need
 Melodime
 then perhaps one of the alternatives may do the job.
 On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 There's a bit more to HSC than most other solutions, particularly when
 it comes to verification of hotspots. You can specify screen
 coordinates relative to a bunch of other landmarks, verify colours to
 be reasonably sure you're clicking the right thing and account for
 differences in window size etc. Then there's spot rings and the
 ability to communicate directly with the JAWS API so that you can
 pretty much build a custom user interface if you know what you're
 doing. Probably a heap more stuff that I'm missing too. Most HSC sets
 aren't, but it can be super elegant for a bolt-on solution in the
 hands of someone who cares about UX.

 Note: I'm not plugging it as a fan boy, it's more a case of being
 frustrated that this stuff can't be done with any other screen reader
 yet so far as I know.


 On 6/16/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Keyboard Maestro is a macro program capable of clicking screen or
 window
 locations. I'm sure it does anything Hot Spot Clicker does.

 Slau

 On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Scott Chesworth
 scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Would Keyboard Maestro not be able to cope with this on Mac?

 Scott


 On 6/16/15, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.
 It's in situations like these that I wish there was an equivalent of
 hotspot clicker for VoiceOver.
 Melodyne Assistant is accessible with JAWS, with a very reasonably
 priced hotset developed by a hotspot

Re: Artis mix control surface, or mackie or what?

[Scott Chesworth]

Just a slight correction, seems like the X 32 Producer has 17
motorized faders, not 8. I'm hoping that their next move will be an
X-touch sized thing with decent pre's and a few MIDI ports. That'd
probably be the point where I'd ditch having a separate surface and
I/O for mobile recording at least.

Has anybody taken a poke at the Behringer app that pairs up with the
X32 gear using VoiceOver?

Scott

On 6/17/15, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote:
 The X touch is not a touch screen. It's a full 8 fader surface.
 Also, it has better components than the BCF. The BCF doesn't support
 touch automation, so you end up fighting with the fader if you're trying
 to rewrite automation moves.

 The BCF was made at a time when Behrenger was known for making cheap
 hardware. There's been a shakeup at the company, and as a few years ago,
 the build quality of their products, especially anything related to the
 X32 series, which includes the X Touch control surface, has greatly
 improved.
 Speaking of the X32, that is another option for a control
 surface/interface combo. The X32 producer, which is the same price as 1
 of the artist mix surfaces, gives you 8 motorized faders, 16 xlr ins, a
 ton of routing options, ,effects, etc. As a guy who once advised folks
 to never let Behrenger become part of the signal chain, I'm actually
 considering this as my main studio board because of the feature set and
 Midas Mic Pres.
 Hope this helps.

 Kevin

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Re: Melodyne

[Scott Chesworth]

Unless it's changed since Mavericks, VoiceOvers hotspot function can
only be bound to GUI elements that are already visible to VO. Useful
for cutting down the amount of button bashing for sure, but not really
comparable. Has that changed?

I'd be really interested to read about how you got those presets saved
without sighted assistance if you get a few spare mins to write about
it. I'm lucky because I can always ask for assistance via the
girlfriend, but would rather do that type of gruntwork independently
if it's possible.

Scott

On 6/17/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Voice over does have a basic hot spotting functionality which can be useful.
 it along with some of VO’s other advanced features not found in other screen
 readers made it possible for me to convert  all the Nectar, Alloy and Ozone
 presets into Reaper presets without sighted assistance. That being said from
 all i read up on keyboard metro it seems to be very comparable to HSC as a
 fuller solution.  But as the blind community is smaller here, and as such
 less niche revenue to be made from selling maestro sets (if its even
 possible to sell them on anything other than the honor system) means no one
 has yet bother to take the time to make and or share much sets yet. After
 all most seem to be content with just dual booting and going back to windows
 when they hit a proverbial wall on OS X. Not a put down, but when you got
 paid word to do its easier to go back to what you know works than try to
 forge ahead. Also situations like the one Slau described also exist  on
 windows and are there is some stuff you can HSC your way around last i
 checked.  Alas there is the classic chicken and egg problem, while our
 numbers are low, and there isn’t the monetary incentive like there is with
 HSC, we’ll be slowly chipping away at these holes, , but the numbers
 probably won’t grow till more of the holes get filled in.

 That being said, The waves stuff seem to be accessible these days Waves Tune
 may be worth a look then. Some people say they had success with AutoTune on
 here as well, and from what little i attempted to use them (i don’t have
 perfect pitch so i don’t do much pitch correction work) Nectar’s Pitch
 Correction and Harmony stuff seems like its workable with VO. And for what
 it’s worth if its simple touch ups, the elastic audio and pitch plug in
 tools in Pro Tools is available. So if you don’t specifically need Melodime
 then perhaps one of the alternatives may do the job.
 On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 There's a bit more to HSC than most other solutions, particularly when
 it comes to verification of hotspots. You can specify screen
 coordinates relative to a bunch of other landmarks, verify colours to
 be reasonably sure you're clicking the right thing and account for
 differences in window size etc. Then there's spot rings and the
 ability to communicate directly with the JAWS API so that you can
 pretty much build a custom user interface if you know what you're
 doing. Probably a heap more stuff that I'm missing too. Most HSC sets
 aren't, but it can be super elegant for a bolt-on solution in the
 hands of someone who cares about UX.

 Note: I'm not plugging it as a fan boy, it's more a case of being
 frustrated that this stuff can't be done with any other screen reader
 yet so far as I know.


 On 6/16/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Keyboard Maestro is a macro program capable of clicking screen or window
 locations. I'm sure it does anything Hot Spot Clicker does.

 Slau

 On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Would Keyboard Maestro not be able to cope with this on Mac?

 Scott


 On 6/16/15, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.
 It's in situations like these that I wish there was an equivalent of
 hotspot clicker for VoiceOver.
 Melodyne Assistant is accessible with JAWS, with a very reasonably
 priced hotset developed by a hotspot clicker maestro, here if you're
 interested.
 http://vipaudioaccess.com/category/melodyne-assistant-hsc/
 I know it won't help anyMac user, but it means that accessibility on
 the
 Mac side still has to improve quite a bit.
 Best,
 JPR

 http://www.jprykiel.com
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 http://twitter.com/ryksounet
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 Le 16/06/2015 01:13, Jack Ronnayut a écrit :
 I do so.
 Waiting for the answer.


 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:35 AM
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 Subject: Melodyne

 hello all my
 from long time ago i didn't right here,. Hope everyone is ok.
 my question is about melodyne, does any one is using Melodyne on mac?
 what about

 plise i need your experience.
 thanks.


 Ramy moustafa saber
 Musicc instructor at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound

Re: track selection

[Scott Chesworth]

That command doesn't exist, and is unlikely to be possible because PT
doesn't have an API that you could send such a request to. When I end
up in a situation with multiple tracks selected and I've lost track of
which, I usually just hide all tracks, show what I need at the time,
and start over. It's not as much of a pain as it sounds, hardest part
here was adopting the habit of only showing what you're working on at
the time.

Hth

Scott

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 Is there any command in voice over and p t, to tell us exactlly what tracks
 we have selected, also is there any way of deselecting all tracks.
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Re: track selection

[Scott Chesworth]

Ah, a much better solution! Cheers Slau, no idea why that never occurred here.

On 6/17/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Steve,

 There isn't a shortcut, per se, to determine which tracks are selected. One
 thing you can do, however, is go to the Tracks List pop-up (VoiceOver still
 identifies it as Show/Hide label) and choose Show Only Selected Tracks.
 Now your mixer will only show selected tracks. Just read across the window
 and you'll see which tracks are selected because they'll be the only ones
 showing.

 HTH,

 Slau

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Re: Melodyne

[Scott Chesworth]

There's a bit more to HSC than most other solutions, particularly when
it comes to verification of hotspots. You can specify screen
coordinates relative to a bunch of other landmarks, verify colours to
be reasonably sure you're clicking the right thing and account for
differences in window size etc. Then there's spot rings and the
ability to communicate directly with the JAWS API so that you can
pretty much build a custom user interface if you know what you're
doing. Probably a heap more stuff that I'm missing too. Most HSC sets
aren't, but it can be super elegant for a bolt-on solution in the
hands of someone who cares about UX.

Note: I'm not plugging it as a fan boy, it's more a case of being
frustrated that this stuff can't be done with any other screen reader
yet so far as I know.


On 6/16/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Keyboard Maestro is a macro program capable of clicking screen or window
 locations. I'm sure it does anything Hot Spot Clicker does.

 Slau

 On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Would Keyboard Maestro not be able to cope with this on Mac?

 Scott


 On 6/16/15, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.
 It's in situations like these that I wish there was an equivalent of
 hotspot clicker for VoiceOver.
 Melodyne Assistant is accessible with JAWS, with a very reasonably
 priced hotset developed by a hotspot clicker maestro, here if you're
 interested.
 http://vipaudioaccess.com/category/melodyne-assistant-hsc/
 I know it won't help anyMac user, but it means that accessibility on the
 Mac side still has to improve quite a bit.
 Best,
 JPR

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 Le 16/06/2015 01:13, Jack Ronnayut a écrit :
 I do so.
 Waiting for the answer.


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 Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:35 AM
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 Subject: Melodyne

 hello all my
 from long time ago i didn't right here,. Hope everyone is ok.
 my question is about melodyne, does any one is using Melodyne on mac?
 what about

 plise i need your experience.
 thanks.


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 music arranger and sound engineer
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Re: Melodyne

[Scott Chesworth]

Would Keyboard Maestro not be able to cope with this on Mac?

Scott


On 6/16/15, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.
 It's in situations like these that I wish there was an equivalent of
 hotspot clicker for VoiceOver.
 Melodyne Assistant is accessible with JAWS, with a very reasonably
 priced hotset developed by a hotspot clicker maestro, here if you're
 interested.
 http://vipaudioaccess.com/category/melodyne-assistant-hsc/
 I know it won't help anyMac user, but it means that accessibility on the
 Mac side still has to improve quite a bit.
 Best,
 JPR

 http://www.jprykiel.com
 http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
 http://twitter.com/ryksounet
 http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

 Le 16/06/2015 01:13, Jack Ronnayut a écrit :
 I do so.
 Waiting for the answer.


 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:35 AM
 To: protools mailing list
 Subject: Melodyne

 hello all my
 from long time ago i didn't right here,. Hope everyone is ok.
 my question is about melodyne, does any one is using Melodyne on mac?
 what about

 plise i need your experience.
 thanks.


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 music arranger and sound engineer
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Re: C couple of queries about volume

[Scott Chesworth]

Doesn't that Behringer emulate Mackie's HUI protocol? You should be
able to control plugs with it if it's in HUI mode. Google will know
whether I'm right or not, but I'm fairly sure...

On 6/12/15, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Hi Brian, I'd love to be able to help you more, but you're using the BCF as
 much as I am. I only do panning and volume. I don't think it's possible to
 minipulate plugin controls with it unfortunately, or at least if there is
 then I've no idea how. Sadly Prrtools doesn't have a midi learn function
 like every other DAW, which is a bit frustrating, and I imagine is a
 restriction deliberately introduced to encourage people to buy Avid's own
 control surfaces where plugin automation is possible.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 11 Jun 2015, at 17:29, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would love to get your thoughts on the BCF 2000.  I’ve just been using
 it for setting levels and panning in pro tools, but would love to dig in
 deeper to using this control surface with pro tools.  Feel free to write
 me off-list.  Thanks,
 Brian
 On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:59 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hi Slau, I assume Flip Mode is a control surface specific thing? I'm just
 using a Beringer BCF at the moment. However, the clip gain feature seems
 to be perfect for my needs. I must give Keyboard maestro my attention at
 some point. Thanks.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Jun 2015, at 21:02, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah, I'm sorry but I neglected to point out that you need to use a
 control surface to change that value for now. It's possible to set a hot
 spot with a program like Keyboard Maestro but I haven't gotten around to
 doing that because I don't use the Trim plug-in. At any rate, it's
 likely to be the very first encoder knob or fader if you're in flip
 mode.

 HTH,

 Slau

 On Jun 10, 2015, at 2:55 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hi Slau, it appears that there is a trim plugin, but I don't seem to be
 able to change the value of the paramiter which I assume is volume,
 given it's 0 DB reading. I can mute lept and right channels and invert
 the phaze, but the volume slider remains fixed. Asfor clip gain, I
 can't find a way to adjumt that anywhere. The only other solution could
 be to put each track I want to adjust on a seperate bus, and then I get
 a make shift work around.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Jun 2015, at 19:22, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 First of all, if you're dealing with tracks that contain multiple
 clips, forget clip gain. The Trim plug-in does what you're looking to
 do. Thing is, I could be mistaken but it might be an HD feature only.
 It's been years since I've used Pro Tools vanilla so I honestly don't
 know for sure. That said, the Trim plug-in allows you to trim each
 track just as you would with a console with tape machine returns. If
 you want to adjust a track's output across the board, so to speak, you
 can do that with the volume parameter of the Trim plug-in.

 HTH,

 Slau

 On Jun 10, 2015, at 5:22 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools
 Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:


 Hi, thanks for replying. I couldn't work out how to apply clip gain.
 There's a gain plugin in the Audio Suite, but I dont think that's
 accessible. Plus, I get a message about audio handles being disabled
 due to how processing is set up apparently. As for a trim plugin,
 I've not seen that. I'm going to ghave a full readup of the manual
 on a long journey I've got coming up, but the manual often speaks in
 visual language, so I'm not sure how useful that'll be. Any help 'on
 this is very welcome. Thanks a lot.


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Re: accessible drum replacement plugin for Protools and ivory II accessability

[Scott Chesworth]

Most if not all people who do drum replacement on here seem to be
using Slate Trigger 2 with the assistance of a bunch of presets that
they've saved out in the native Pro Tools library format. The browser
of Trigger 2 isn't accessible to VoiceOver, but you can use those
presets as starting points and tweak to taste using the automation
controls in the plugin window. They're not posted anywhere publicly so
far as I know, so you'd either need to set up a private share with
someone or get sighted help initially to save any of the sounds you're
interested in using. It's far from ideal, but it gets the job done in
a pinch. Slate support have also been good about giving me a hand
transferring licenses to iLok and setting up library paths for the
other DAW I sometimes need to trigger in, for what that's worth.

I'm still all ears if anybody has alternative solutions.

Scott

On 6/9/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ivory II is completely accessible. Highly recommended.

 Slau

 On Jun 8, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Rocco Fiorentino accessibleproto...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi All,

 Does anyone know of an accessible drum replacement plugin that can be used
 in Protools? Also, has anyone used Ivory II and how accessible is it in
 PT?
 Thanks so much,

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Re: Part 11 or 12?

[Scott Chesworth]

For what it's worth, I went the web route and found it to be pretty
straight forward too. As Nick said, scans of your ID or whatever else
you're using to verify that you're entitled to the education license
gets validated manually, so factor in a few days for a response if
you're working with deadlines to get up and running.

On 6/6/15, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote:
 Hi, I have the educational version upgrade from Pro Tools 11 to 12.  You
 would qualify as when I called Avid they told me there is no difference
 in versions it will be the normal version of Pro Tools not the HD
 version if this is what you are talking about.  I had support remote
 into my system to help me transfer the ilok license and started the
 downloads for me and help me fill out the educational form to say I was
 a student.  I gave the site my school email address but someone still
 has to manually accept the offer so you will have to wait and check your
 school email for the information.  Avid support is the best resource as
 you do have to enter in codes to some web sites and rather then do all
 of this on my own as they were connected to my computer we just did this
 process over the phoneas they knew I was blind so they told me lets just
 do this over the phone as it was much faster then once the license was
 accepted I again called support and they remoted into my system to do
 the ilok transfer.  Nick Gawronski
 On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Shawn Brock wrote:

 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 21:15:11 -0400
 From: Shawn Brock sh...@shawnbrock.com
 Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Part 11 or 12?

 I have a quick question for you guys. I have searched the list archive and
 see that accessibility has not been improved in part 12, but no one
 mentions any bad experiences in part 12. Is it safe to assume that it is
 okay to proceed with part 12 if one is running Yosemite?

 Also, do any of you have experience with running and educational license
 of ProTools? I would qualify for such pricing because of my position at
 the University, but just wanted to make sure nothing has been hacked off
 of the educational Version. I know, I know, the Internet says it is a full
 working version, but the Internet says a lot of things LOL.

 Thanks as always,
 Shawn

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Re: Part 11 or 12?

[Scott Chesworth]

Running the education license here, and it is indeed the full shabang.
Can't comment on the differences between version 11 and 12 though, as
I haven't yet found time to upgrade to 12. Planning to make it happen
next week, but someone will have answered you by then I'm sure.

Hth

Scott

On 6/6/15, Shawn Brock sh...@shawnbrock.com wrote:
 I have a quick question for you guys. I have searched the list archive and
 see that accessibility has not been improved in part 12, but no one mentions
 any bad experiences in part 12. Is it safe to assume that it is okay to
 proceed with part 12 if one is running Yosemite?

 Also, do any of you have experience with running and educational license of
 ProTools? I would qualify for such pricing because of my position at the
 University, but just wanted to make sure nothing has been hacked off of the
 educational Version. I know, I know, the Internet says it is a full working
 version, but the Internet says a lot of things LOL.

 Thanks as always,
 Shawn

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Re: accessibility comparison chart

[Scott Chesworth]

With both sides of this fence being a work in progress though,
everyone's opinion of accessibility is a subjective thing, so I'm not
sure a Yes and No answers type table would be accepted as accurate
across the board. For most people who're actually using either of
these options to get stuff done, about the best definition of
accessible in the land of the DAW is I can get stuff done using it.
A lot of the workarounds and workflows that the Logic folks are using
would likely leave a lot of the PT users shaking their head, and that
goes both ways. See, I'm already giving away my biased opinion by
putting the options in that order in the last sentence lol.

Not saying it's a bad idea as such, just that I think it'd be a
difficult thing to compose and I don't envy the poor sucker who takes
on the task. :)

On 5/30/15, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yep, blame it on my French English.
 JP

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 Le 30/05/2015 11:19, Christopher-Mark Gilland a écrit :
 First off, I think this would honestly render much better as a table
 than it would as a chart.

 Chris.

 - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel
 jpryk...@gmail.com
 To: logic-accessibil...@googlegroups.com; ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 5:13 AM
 Subject: accessibility comparison chart


 Hi all.
 excuse me for posting to both lists, It is something I never do, but
 you will obviously understand why.
 I wonder, For users who have a hard time choosing between ProTools
 and logic, if It would be possible to set up an accessibility
 comparison chart between both Daws, including categories like MIDI,
 editing, effects, synths and so on.
 Of course, the hard part is that it would have to be updated as
 Applications evolve.
 Of course 2, everyone knows that they are not real competitors as
 ProTools became a Must have for compatibility with pro studios, and
 Logic didn't, but this might not be a choice criteria for all, and so
 I think this comparison remains valuable.
 It is something I would have gladly done, but I'm using neither of
 them for the moment, happy with sonar, but knowing I will have to
 change some day.
 What do you say?
 Best,
 JPR

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Re: Motu and general daw question

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Shawn,

I wouldn't call that machine disappointing, there are plenty of folks
making good music with a lot less power at their disposal. Mac OS and
PT tend to take less background resources than what you've been seeing
from Sonar on Windows. You'll need to have your audio on a separate
drive from the OS, but other than that, you should be good to go.

First thing to check about that MOTU interface is whether 64-bit
drivers have been released. Google can help you find that out. So far
as I know, there's no way of booting back to a 32-bit colonel in
Yosemite as there was in previous iterations of Mac OS, so the driver
issue has started to be a bit of a dealbreaker for some gracefully
aging interfaces.

Hth a bit

Scott

On 5/26/15, Shawn Brock sh...@shawnbrock.com wrote:


 List,

 I'm making the plunge into protools, (another convert from sonar and
 windows).

 I have available for my use the following Mac book Pro, non-retina display,
 OS Yosemite, 16 gig of RAM, and perhaps somewhat disappointing, a Intel I
 seven quad core 2.2 processor. So now that the machine in question has been
 identified I will move forward with my inquiries of you.

 1- do you have any speculation or experience as to how a motu 828 MKII
 FireWire interface will react with protools 10, voiceover and Yosemite? Yes
 I already know these are elderly interfaces. However, I have always had good
 experience with them and their stability. If it does not or will not work,
 that is another matter entirely...

 2- assuming I need to go another route, what would you recommend as far as a
 FireWire or thunderbolt interface? My parameters are stability, ease of use,
 and portability. I need something which would at least house 2 preamps, as i
 travel and hate packing a lot of gear.

 Thanks,
 Shawn
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Re: Putting up Pro tools Presets on Protools with speech

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Krister,

The Pro Tools with Speech page is maintained by Matt Diemert. You
could send the presets zipped up to this list so they reach a bunch of
people by default, and Matt usually seems to pick up on those. I'll
send you his email address off list in a sec though, wouldn't hurt to
send them to him specifically.

Thanks for making them man. Gonna be good to get my hands on Nectar on
the Mac side.

Scott


On 5/21/15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 Hi folks,
 I have some presets that i want to share and i thought i would put them up
 on the repository at Protools with speech, but i wonder how i would go about
 doing this?
 The presets i have right now are for Arturia Cs80V, Izotope Nectar
 Production suite 2 and XLN audio Addictive keys Electric grand which is
 about the best virtual Yamaha CP70/80 i’ve heard.
 So if i could get some info about how to put these presets up on Protools
 with speech i’d be grateful.
 Thanks,
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Re: Ram for PT

[Scott Chesworth]

I'd also recommend checking MacTracker or a similar app to find out
the maximum RAM capacity your model of Mac can support, as sometimes
Apple seem to sell themselves short on those specs. For example, the
Apple spec for my model of Macbook Pro says 8 GB is supported so I
stopped there, but it's been tested and verified by much more
knowledgeable folks that this puppy can actually cope with 16 GB. Doh!

Scott

On 5/19/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Simple rule of thumb, put in as much RAM as you can afford period. Max it
 out if you can.
 On May 14, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am thinking about upgrading my ram for a PT upgrade to version 11, what
 are you guys finding optimal for say 60 tracks and under?

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Re: voiceover and reading meters

[Scott Chesworth]

When you're in the mix window and the tracks that you want to work
with are shown, just press Page Up and re-check those meters. Page UP
scrolls the window, hopefully bringing the problematic track into
focus visually, and once that's happened, things should start working
as expected with VoiceOver. If you've got a lot of tracks shown, you
might need to rinse and repeat the procedure a couple of times.

Hth explain it

Scott

On 5/18/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Slau, so what do I do to make sure my meters read correctly in
 regards to the page up key?  Thanks,
 Brian
 On May 17, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Brian,

 OK, I had a chance to take a look at the meter situation and I think I
 know what's happening to you. First, before I explain, the gain reduction
 meter checkbox is in the display cluster of the metering tab within the
 preferences dialog. Even if the checkbox is checked, a gain reduction
 meter will not appear until you've instantiated a compressor plug-in on
 that track.

 OK, what I think is happening is that your mix window display has tracks
 hidden from view. In other words, as I've described before, VoiceOver sees
 the track and you can interact with it and even change controls but,
 technically, the tracks are off-screen. In this situation, routing a mouse
 pointer doesn't work and, coincidentally, level meters will not read
 correctly. As soon as you truly expose the tracks within the Mix window,
 the meters will produce results, otherwise they'll simply read as level
 meter and nothing else. As well aware as I am of this issue, it even
 threw me for a loop at first because I normally use my control surface to
 make sure tracks are visible but my surface is currently not showing up in
 the only copy of Pro Tools 12 I currently have which is a beta. So,
 without the surface, I neglected to check whether the tracks I was looking
 at were actually visible in the Mix window. After scratching my head for a
 moment, I realized that the tracks were, in fact, showing up to the left
 of the Show/Hide, a.k.a. Tracks List pop-up menu, and we all know what
 that means: yes, the tracks are off-screen. the Page-Up key will be your
 friend in this case and your meters will read correctly.

 HTH,
 Slau


 On May 16, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Brian,

 It's under the metering tab in the preferences but I don't recall which
 cluster of controls. If you're in the metering tab, bringing up the item
 chooser list should reveal all controls and you can probably just arrow
 down the list to find the checkbox. I won't be in the studio until some
 time tomorrow. Hopefully, you'll be able to find it before then.

 Slau

 On May 16, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey Slau,
 I am having a hard time finding that check box under the metering tab.
 As you know, I am running pro tools 12, but I have looked under all of
 the tabs under metering, but can't find that check box.  Do you know
 where exactly that check box is located?  I want to make sure I have
 that unchecked.  Thanks Slau,
 Brian
 On May 16, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Brian,

 For what it's worth, are you having the gain reduction meters
 displayed, by any chance? those meters do not currently work for
 anybody so it's not a VoiceOver issue. Further, they're called level
 meters just like the regular channel level meters and they can easily
 be mistaken for one another. There's a checkbox in the preferences
 under the metering tab to display them or not. I'd recommend making
 sure they're not displayed for now. Further, if the meters read
 correctly at any point, they should always read correctly unless
 there's absolutely no signal going through the channels. I don't think
 it's a matter of inconsistent behavior or else others would have seen
 this a long time ago.

 Slau

 On May 16, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello all,
 I'm working on a mix, and voiceover is just saying level meter when I
 go to reset meters on my tracks and master fader.  It will start
 reading the meters correctly like on my master fader, and then when I
 go to reset or stop playback, voiceover just says level meter and
 stops reading them.  Has anyone else experienced this?  I'm running
 pro tools 12.0.  It's really frustrating and is really slowing down my
 workflow.  What should I try?  Thanks,
 Brian

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Re: isotope stutter edit or alternative VoiceOver friendly stutter application?

[Scott Chesworth]

For what it's worth, iZotope have had a few VO users on their beta
testing list who have filed feedback and as yet have diddly-squat to
show for the effort. Not saying it'll never happen, just be prepared
to hurry up and wait on this one.

Scott


On 5/15/15, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi John  all,

 Heres the first default list of gestures which are assigned to your midi
 keyboard, for isotope stutter edit.
 The # refers to the midi note  the gesture name is what kind of stutter
 edit effect gets triggered.


 PS isotope needs to hear from VoiceOver users! :)
 Also contact me off list for the $99.00 stutter edit info. :)
 Heres the email;
 iZotope Support supp...@izotope.com
 Also give them this Apple link.
 https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/

 Enjoy
 Chuck

 CHUCK REICHEL
 soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
 954-742-0019
 Isaiah 26 : 3
  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because
 he trusteth in thee.

 In GOD I Trust

 On May 12, 2015, at 5:50 AM, John André Lium-Netland wrote:

 Hi,

 That would be a great list to have, but I haven't found anything like that
 yet. So far, I've only selected effect by testing each of them against the
 actual place in a song.

 Best,
 John André

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Re: possible voiceover bug in pro tools

[Scott Chesworth]

I've just emailed accessibil...@apple.com with a short example of how
this keeps biting me on the arse, and recommending that such windows
be made reachable/switchable using Alt+Tab. Even once you know the
behaviour exists, it's unnecessarily unproductive to have to use
VO-specific stuff when a standard OS shortcut should work.

If anyone else is bothered, please do the same.

Cheers

Scott

On 5/9/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just to give people following this thread a little update:

 Brian's issue was, in fact, a window blocking the physical mouse click. A
 Force Quit dialog was still open and it's the kind of thing that will fool
 you into thinking it's not there unless you specifically bring up the Window
 Chooser, select the item and close the window. Same thing applies to the
 Notification center and some other system dialogs like those asking whether
 you wish to run updates, install other software, etc. Mystery solved.

 Slau

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Re: Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12

[Scott Chesworth]

Sure, just figured that having one module per preset and then running
multiple instances would lend the most amount of flexibility. Gonna
grab a demo and give it a whirl tomorrow.

On 5/7/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
 I gathered that you could have someone setup any number of presets for
 different configs of whatever modules you have. The slate stuff isn't so cpu
 intensive anyway so I'd imagine multiple instances of vmr would be another
 good work around

 Sent from my smart-ish phone!

 On 7/05/2015, at 6:20 pm, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 With this preset method, that'd mean that you're restricted to running
 one module per instance of VMR, right? Is there much of a difference
 in terms of resources if you run a few instances instead of the
 expected usage of chaining multiple modules within one instance? I
 haven't sprung for any Slate stuff beyond Trigger yet, but I like what
 I've heard and have enough sighted help available at the moment to get
 stuff set up.

 Scott

 On 5/7/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
 Thanks for that, they are thhe exact steps I'm taking but no luck.
 Selecting
 regions to nearest transients etc are all working just fine.

 Thanks for your response on slate vmr also, very helpful, I mostly want
 it
 to try reviver but its good to know that the parameters show once the
 modules are in place with a preset.

 Sent from my smart-ish phone!

 On 7/05/2015, at 3:10 pm, mcdiemert . mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brian,
 Let's say you have two  markers, and you want to select everything
 between marker 1 and marker 2. First Go to marker 1 by pressing period
 one period on the numeric keypad. To select up to marker two, you
 would hold down shift, and press period 2 period again from the
 numeric. HTH




 On 5/6/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
 Quick nav did catch me a few weeks ago but vo is set to normal, I can
 jump
 to markers as normal.

 I'm getting by with creating region breaks and selecting that way for
 the
 moment, searching in preview in the shortcut guide isn't giving me any
 results relating to selecting to the next or previous memory location,
 only
 shortcuts relating to creating and moving to memory locations, I'm
 still
 assuming its something I'm doing wrong rather than something changing
 in
 pt
 12.

 Thanks for the suggestions,
 Brian

 Sent from my smart-ish phone!

 On 6/05/2015, at 1:42 pm, mcdiemert . mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:

 do you have quick nav, or quick keys turned on by chance?
 Are you able to jump between markers?



 On 5/6/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
 Yup, all transport mode stuff works from the num pad

 Sent from my smart-ish phone!

 On 6/05/2015, at 4:14 am, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Bryan, can you still use 3 on the numb pad to start record.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Brian Casey
 Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 2:27 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12

 I've now found that the issue was check boxes in preferences not
 being
 read correctly by Voice over, wonder if this is normal?

 Can't figure why key strokes for selecting between markers aren't
 working
 when other selection key strokes like shift return etc are.

 Sent from my smart-ish phone!

 On 5/05/2015, at 9:18 pm, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Bryan, some have found that they have an automation box checked
 and
 it
 is
 affecting the parameter changes. I am not using version 12 so I
 can
 not
 directly help. I hope that somebody who has kept track of this
 issue
 can
 assist.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of CaseyBrian Casey
 Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:15 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12

 Hi all, back on this topic I am still unable to adjust plugin
 parameters
 in a plugin using Voice Over which I gather shouldn't be a
 problem.

 I think Slau may have taken me up wrong, I'm not trying to write
 automation or anything, just change values of parameters.

 For example I changed the polarity of a track using the trim
 plugin
 but
 after changing the parameter it reverts to its original state when
 I
 next
 resume playback.

 I have tried changing some of the prefs relating to automation and
 tried
 turning off all automation but no joy. Fyi I aim to install a
 bcf2000
 for
 controling plugs but I'm not sure that will change this behaviour.

 To avoid clogging the list, I will also quickly mention that using
 shift
 and period  on the num pad is for some reason not selecting to the
 next
 memory location as it should, also command and 5 is not opening
 the
 memory locations window for me and I have to go via the menus to
 find
 it,


 Any ideas on this are greatly

Re: Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12

[Scott Chesworth]

Good to know Chris, cheers. Out of interest, how well are the
parameters labeled? Do they all display formatted values? I'm assuming
that'll be the same on Windows and Mac because most stuff is. I'll be
using this on both sides of the fence, which means creating two sets
of presets annoyingly.

On 5/7/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 Scott, if you typically go EQ before compression, get someone to set
 you up a preset containing a VCC channel, an EQ, a compressor like
 the FG116 module, and whatever else you want after that. You can then
 turn modules on or off as needed, adjust their parameters etc.

 At 01:20 PM 5/7/2015, you wrote:
With this preset method, that'd mean that you're restricted to running
one module per instance of VMR, right? Is there much of a difference
in terms of resources if you run a few instances instead of the
expected usage of chaining multiple modules within one instance? I
haven't sprung for any Slate stuff beyond Trigger yet, but I like what
I've heard and have enough sighted help available at the moment to get
stuff set up.

Scott

On 5/7/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
  Thanks for that, they are thhe exact steps I'm taking but no
 luck. Selecting
  regions to nearest transients etc are all working just fine.
 
  Thanks for your response on slate vmr also, very helpful, I mostly want
  it
  to try reviver but its good to know that the parameters show once the
  modules are in place with a preset.
 
  Sent from my smart-ish phone!
 
  On 7/05/2015, at 3:10 pm, mcdiemert . mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Brian,
  Let's say you have two  markers, and you want to select everything
  between marker 1 and marker 2. First Go to marker 1 by pressing period
  one period on the numeric keypad. To select up to marker two, you
  would hold down shift, and press period 2 period again from the
  numeric. HTH
 
 
 
 
  On 5/6/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
  Quick nav did catch me a few weeks ago but vo is set to normal, I can
  jump
  to markers as normal.
 
  I'm getting by with creating region breaks and selecting that way for
  the
  moment, searching in preview in the shortcut guide isn't giving me
  any
  results relating to selecting to the next or previous memory
  location,
  only
  shortcuts relating to creating and moving to memory locations, I'm
  still
  assuming its something I'm doing wrong rather than something changing
  in
  pt
  12.
 
  Thanks for the suggestions,
  Brian
 
  Sent from my smart-ish phone!
 
  On 6/05/2015, at 1:42 pm, mcdiemert . mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  do you have quick nav, or quick keys turned on by chance?
  Are you able to jump between markers?
 
 
 
  On 5/6/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
  Yup, all transport mode stuff works from the num pad
 
  Sent from my smart-ish phone!
 
  On 6/05/2015, at 4:14 am, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Bryan, can you still use 3 on the numb pad to start record.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
  On
  Behalf Of Brian Casey
  Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 2:27 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12
 
  I've now found that the issue was check boxes in preferences not
  being
  read correctly by Voice over, wonder if this is normal?
 
  Can't figure why key strokes for selecting between markers aren't
  working
  when other selection key strokes like shift return etc are.
 
  Sent from my smart-ish phone!
 
  On 5/05/2015, at 9:18 pm, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Bryan, some have found that they have an automation box checked
  and
  it
  is
  affecting the parameter changes. I am not using version 12 so I
  can
  not
  directly help. I hope that somebody who has kept track of this
  issue
  can
  assist.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
  On
  Behalf Of CaseyBrian Casey
  Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:15 AM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12
 
  Hi all, back on this topic I am still unable to adjust plugin
  parameters
  in a plugin using Voice Over which I gather shouldn't be a
  problem.
 
  I think Slau may have taken me up wrong, I'm not trying to write
  automation or anything, just change values of parameters.
 
  For example I changed the polarity of a track using the trim
  plugin
  but
  after changing the parameter it reverts to its original state when
  I
  next
  resume playback.
 
  I have tried changing some of the prefs relating to automation
  and
  tried
  turning off all automation but no joy. Fyi I aim to install a
  bcf2000
  for
  controling plugs but I'm not sure that will change this
  behaviour.
 
  To avoid clogging the list, I will also quickly mention that
  using
  shift
  and period  on the num pad is for some reason not selecting to
  

Re: Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12

[Scott Chesworth]

With this preset method, that'd mean that you're restricted to running
one module per instance of VMR, right? Is there much of a difference
in terms of resources if you run a few instances instead of the
expected usage of chaining multiple modules within one instance? I
haven't sprung for any Slate stuff beyond Trigger yet, but I like what
I've heard and have enough sighted help available at the moment to get
stuff set up.

Scott

On 5/7/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
 Thanks for that, they are thhe exact steps I'm taking but no luck. Selecting
 regions to nearest transients etc are all working just fine.

 Thanks for your response on slate vmr also, very helpful, I mostly want it
 to try reviver but its good to know that the parameters show once the
 modules are in place with a preset.

 Sent from my smart-ish phone!

 On 7/05/2015, at 3:10 pm, mcdiemert . mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brian,
 Let's say you have two  markers, and you want to select everything
 between marker 1 and marker 2. First Go to marker 1 by pressing period
 one period on the numeric keypad. To select up to marker two, you
 would hold down shift, and press period 2 period again from the
 numeric. HTH




 On 5/6/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
 Quick nav did catch me a few weeks ago but vo is set to normal, I can
 jump
 to markers as normal.

 I'm getting by with creating region breaks and selecting that way for
 the
 moment, searching in preview in the shortcut guide isn't giving me any
 results relating to selecting to the next or previous memory location,
 only
 shortcuts relating to creating and moving to memory locations, I'm still
 assuming its something I'm doing wrong rather than something changing in
 pt
 12.

 Thanks for the suggestions,
 Brian

 Sent from my smart-ish phone!

 On 6/05/2015, at 1:42 pm, mcdiemert . mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:

 do you have quick nav, or quick keys turned on by chance?
 Are you able to jump between markers?



 On 5/6/15, Brian Casey br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
 Yup, all transport mode stuff works from the num pad

 Sent from my smart-ish phone!

 On 6/05/2015, at 4:14 am, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bryan, can you still use 3 on the numb pad to start record.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Brian Casey
 Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 2:27 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12

 I've now found that the issue was check boxes in preferences not
 being
 read correctly by Voice over, wonder if this is normal?

 Can't figure why key strokes for selecting between markers aren't
 working
 when other selection key strokes like shift return etc are.

 Sent from my smart-ish phone!

 On 5/05/2015, at 9:18 pm, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bryan, some have found that they have an automation box checked and
 it
 is
 affecting the parameter changes. I am not using version 12 so I can
 not
 directly help. I hope that somebody who has kept track of this issue
 can
 assist.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of CaseyBrian Casey
 Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:15 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12

 Hi all, back on this topic I am still unable to adjust plugin
 parameters
 in a plugin using Voice Over which I gather shouldn't be a problem.

 I think Slau may have taken me up wrong, I'm not trying to write
 automation or anything, just change values of parameters.

 For example I changed the polarity of a track using the trim plugin
 but
 after changing the parameter it reverts to its original state when I
 next
 resume playback.

 I have tried changing some of the prefs relating to automation and
 tried
 turning off all automation but no joy. Fyi I aim to install a
 bcf2000
 for
 controling plugs but I'm not sure that will change this behaviour.

 To avoid clogging the list, I will also quickly mention that using
 shift
 and period  on the num pad is for some reason not selecting to the
 next
 memory location as it should, also command and 5 is not opening the
 memory locations window for me and I have to go via the menus to
 find
 it,


 Any ideas on this are greatly appreciated, having gone through many
 tutorials and looking through pt documentation it seems certain
 things
 are not appearing/working as they should.

 Brian.

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Re: A word about the Click II plug-in and some presets for it

[Scott Chesworth]

Thanks for making these. Up until now if it's been anything where a
fancy click would be useful, I've just been using a different DAW lol.

Cheers

Scott

On 5/2/15, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah. Got it. Will be looking at these presets with interest. Thanks so much.

 Kevin

 On 5/1/2015 8:05 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi Kevin,

 Thing is, the pop-up menus for selecting the sounds for accented and
 unaccented notes are not visible. Using the presets, however, will give
 you access to any of the sounds available in the plug-in.

 Best,

 Slau

 On May 1, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, it's weird. When I was in the click plug, I couldn't see where
 you could change the sounds.
 Maybe it was labeled differently than I was expecting, but I couldn't see
 the sounds parameter.
 One of the workarounds I was using was to load up xpand 2 and run click
 as an external midi and pick a kit and select the 2 keys for the beats.
 Thanks for letting me know that the alternate sounds do indeed still
 exist in the plug. I'll look harder next time.

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Re: pt ran out of cpu power

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Steve,

Is your session audio and OS on the same drive per chance? Most often
I see these types of errors when trying to bounce to the same drive as
the OS in sessions with a lot going on.

Scott

On 4/30/15, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote:
 Hi anyone seen this.
 when trying to bounce to disk in real time in p t 11.31 i'm getting the
 following error message.
 protools ran out of cpu power try reactivating plugins or removing native
 plugins. aae 9173.
 i'd be happy to uninstall my plugs and reinstall if need be. How ever
 everything is  running fine apart from when i try to bounce in real time to
 disk. No problem if i enable off line bounce,or what ever it's called.
 Any thoughts.
 Steve

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Re: Accessible loudness plug-ins

[Scott Chesworth]

I don't know of anything that's accessible for these types of tasks
yet, and it's troubling. Wonder whether we'd have more luck looking
for a function that analyzes audio offline and puts out the
statistics? Less efficient than realtime metering probably, but I
think we'd stand more of a chance of asking for accessibility work to
be done if it needed to be.

Interesting topic. Hope someone knows enough about it to provide us
all with a nudge in the right direction.

Scott

On 4/17/15, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Yes what i ment was loudness meetering, Chris thanks for posting the link,
 guys go read it then you'll see what it's about.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 07:07, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, will have to become a little more informed on the subject I see.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Chris Smart
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:44 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Accessible loudness plug-ins

 He's asking about metering plugins to help meet these standards:
 http://www.tcelectronic.com/loudness/broadcast-standards/

 Chris

 At 12:30 AM 4/17/2015, you wrote:
 I like the Waves L2 myself.

 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:01 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible loudness plug-ins

 Hi. are you looking for a plug to push the levels of your finished mix
 up a little. If so.
 i use the waves l 3 plugging. Iâ EURO (tm)ve used it under windows for 
 years.
 Iâ EURO (tm)ve just started using it on the mac. But mainly in two track
 editing applications like twisted wave, and sound forge for mac.

 iâ EURO (tm)ve noticed that the parameters are not accessible in this way. 
 but
 all the presets are accessible. so  i got some sighted assistance to
 save some presets.

 Having said that, all the parameters should be accessible in p t.
 if you insert it over a master fader.
 h t h

 hteve

 sOn 17 Apr 2015, at 4:55 am, Nickus de Vos
 mailto:bigboy...@gmail.combigboy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all
 Are there anyone who are using or have tried any loudness plug-ins and
 found accessible ones?
 From what I understand most loudness plug-ins are very visual to offer
 users a quick overview of what's happening with their sound and we will
 probably not be able to use half of the functionality of some of these
 type plug-ins, but it will be very handy even if only basic functions
 is accessible. There's a good chance that I will start doing some
 braudcast stuff in the next month or 2, so I'll have to start looking
 in to it.

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Re: Using an old external drive on the Mac

[Scott Chesworth]

Sure, separate systems for each OS and a foolproof backup routine is
the ideal. Most of the time when I'm recording now though I'm doing it
on location, traveling as light as possible, and although I have
backups, I'd prefer not to waste time restoring from them if it can be
avoided. You'll get why once you're competing for work against the
next guy who didn't have a technical mishap at derailing the flow of
his session.

On 4/14/15, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote:
 Hi, I mainly use these drivers with external hard drives and have had no
 major issues with any of them but I don't like installing more then one
 operating system on one system as if something happens to the drive
 there everything goes I have a windows system as well as a linux system
 for which there are also HFSplus drivers for and for external drives
 they work just fine.  I can understand about being careful but then
 again you can always backup things like your operating system so then if
 something major happens the backup can be restored.  Just passing along
 what I have found out.  Nick Gawronski

 On 4/13/2015 5:03 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
 Just a note of caution about these NTFS drivers for Mac OS and HFS
 drivers for Windows. I'm sure they work well enough for writing to
 memory sticks in the event that they're not formatted as FAT32 or
 other non-system drives, but a few years experience has lead me to
 believe they're best avoided on a drive that's shared with your OS. I
 run a dual boot setup here via Boot Camp, and even if I verify and
 repair permissions habitually, I've found that having Windows write to
 that partition of the drive using MacDrive as my HFS driver will
 eventually make Mac OS crap the bed to the point where Disk Utility
 will no longer repair permissions and the OS won't boot. Google turned
 up other folks who'd had the same experience with HFSPlus, so I guess
 Mac OS just isn't robust enough to handle that scenario. Nothing bad
 has happened here yet when Mac OS has written sessions to my Windows
 partition, but it's surely only a matter of time, and seeing as
 Windows maintenance isn't anywhere near as accessible as that of Mac
 OS, it's a situation best avoided.

 But, for memory sticks and/or drives that only contain session data,
 no problems here.

 Hth someone avoid trouble

 Scott

 On 4/13/15, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote:
 Hi, That is the one I use and both the mac to read and write NTFS and
 the HFSplus for windows work great and I have had no major issues what
 so ever.  Nick Gawronski

 On 4/13/2015 1:15 PM, ashley cox wrote:
 ah, ok. There are some apps you can get, Paragon NTFS for mac being
 the first that comes to mind. Mac Fuse may also work. These are NTFS
 filesystem drivers for the mac which may work, but I don't recommend
 using them. They can, at times, be a little unstable. But perhaps
 worth a shot.


 On 13 Apr 2015, at 19:13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com
 mailto:heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know I can do that, but I didn't want to have to back up a TB worth
 of info to another drive before I format it. I didn't know if there
 was another way to change it from read only mode.
 Thanks anyway though.
 *From:*ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*ashley cox
 *Sent:*Monday, April 13, 2015 10:11 AM
 *To:*ProTools Accessibility
 *Subject:*Re: Using an old external drive on the Mac
 reformat the drive from NTFS to XFat or Mac OS Extended using disk
 utility.
 On 13 Apr 2015, at 19:00, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com
 mailto:heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an external drive that I used on a windows system for many
 years and I want to use it on my Mac now, but it will not allow me
 to move projects around from the drive to the Mac or vice versa what
 do I need to do here?
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Re: an observation about the Mix window

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Joe,

Yeah, I can imagine there'd a knack to it with that many tracks
showing. So far I've been using it in combination with being judicious
about what I've got showing and it seems to work well enough as a
quick fix.

Scott

On 4/13/15, 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 The big problem is that this is not a 100% fix. It's dependent on where
 the screen is scrolled as you're using page up or down. For example, in
 a session with more than 100 tracks you don't know how many times to
 press page down in order to rout the mouse let's say to the I/O field.
 So, if you want to use the modifier keys with the mouse to do something
 with tracks 60, 61 and 62 you would select those 3 tracks and use option
 shift to change the I/O on those 3 tracks. The problem becomes even with
 scroll in to view as you page down for the screen to match VO you
 wouldn't know how many times to press the page down key and it also
 depends on your track size. I've been using this method since version 9
 and I've gotten pretty good at doing it by feel but I always end up
 double checking with one of the tracks I'm changing the field on. The
 more unfortunate part is while bank select did work on certain surfaces
 such as the C|24, Control 24 and others through version 11,  version 12
 of PT does not work where the bank select changes VO's view with the
 D-command and D-control. On the D-control you're able to do this on the
 board but again, it's visually using a combo of buttons and the scroll
 wheel so doing this by feel is not so simple.

 On 4/12/2015 10:37 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 One more thing just popped into my head. In the Edit window, the same (or
 similar) behavior is seen with the tracks in a vertical orientation: at a
 certain point, there's a group that sometimes appears earlier in the list
 rather than together with the rest of the tracks in the timeline. the same
 issue exists here, as far as I can tell. Surely, hiding tracks you don't
 need is a good way to simplify but sometimes keeping more tracks visible
 is advantageous. Anyway...

 I don't remember if I specified in my previous message but, as some folks
 might already know, VoiceOver sometimes sees things that are concealed
 visually. This is both an advantage and disadvantage. I became somewhat
 exasperated with my assistant when she couldn't see something on screen
 that VoiceOver clearly saw. I insisted it must be there and, in fact, it
 wasn't, at least not until she clicked on a disclosure triangle and
 finally saw it. Meanwhile, VoiceOver saw it despite the fact that it was
 technically hidden because of the collapsed disclosure triangle. Funny...
 and yet not funny.

 Slau

 On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Nice one, never thought to try hitting page up. Thanks for the tip!

 Scott

 On 4/12/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 For a few years, I've been using the newer versions of Pro Tools but
 only
 began using the latest version at the studio as of this year. Having
 spent
 more time with PT 11 on a day-to-day basis, I've come to notice
 something
 that didn't occur to me earlier. I've never seen mention of it on the
 list
 although the general subject has come up. I have not, however, seen any
 posts offering the following explanation. For what it's worth, here it
 is:

 As, I'm sure, many of you have noticed, tracks sometimes appear, for
 lack of
 a better way of saying it, to the left of the Tracks List pop-up
 button
 (erroneously labeled, Show/Hide label.) When interacting with those
 tracks, VoiceOver does see all of the elements and one can certainly
 interact with controls and change input paths, etc. However, when trying
 to
 perform actions that involve routing the mouse pointer and doing a
 modified
 click, things don't work as expected. Actually, they don't work at all.
 The
 reason is that, when the tracks appear to be to the left of that pop-up
 button, they're actually not visible on screen and therefore cannot be
 accessed by the mouse pointer. Scrolling into view has certainly been
 suggested on the list as well as showing only the tracks in question.
 That's
 all good but an alternative is to simply page up or, even quicker, use
 the
 bank select on a control surface to expose the left-most tracks or,
 conversely, the right-most bank if that's what you need.

 This is one of those things that has come up on the list a few times
 but
 I've never seen this particular observation. Regardless, putting it out
 there.

 Slau

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Re: New Structure Preset?

[Scott Chesworth]

There are 6 presets under Choral in that zip. Is that everything?

Cheers

Scott

On 4/11/15, 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote:
 It's version 2.0.3 but I'm not sure if the choir is in there. If not let
 me know and I'll put up a new zip with everything.

 On 4/9/2015 8:25 PM, Chi Kim wrote:
 Yeah, I'm not sure if that is for 2.0 or 1.0?
 I need the presets for version 2.
 Strike presets on that site indicated it's for 2.0, but structure didn't.
 Thanks,

 Chi

 On 4/9/2015 8:06 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
 Aren't these up on www.protoolswithspeech.com? I saw Structure presets
 there, but not sure if it's the version you're looking for.

 If not, shout, and I'll pop them in Dropbox.

 Scott

 On 4/10/15, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Could someone let me know where to get the preset for new Structure?
 I think someone posted a dropbox link while back, but the link doesn't
 work anymore.
 Thanks,

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Re: New Structure Preset?

[Scott Chesworth]

No problem. I didn't create these, just sharing, so thanks goes to
whoever did the hard work.

PT With Speech chaps, can you host these? Dropbox is never a good
thing for stuff people might start to rely on.

Scott

On 4/10/15, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Awesome, thanks!

 Chi


 On 4/9/2015 8:35 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
 In which case, try these:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/182718/StructureNew.zip

 That's the most recent version I've seen floating around on here.

 Scott

 On 4/10/15, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, I'm not sure if that is for 2.0 or 1.0?
 I need the presets for version 2.
 Strike presets on that site indicated it's for 2.0, but structure
 didn't.
 Thanks,

 Chi

 On 4/9/2015 8:06 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
 Aren't these up on www.protoolswithspeech.com? I saw Structure presets
 there, but not sure if it's the version you're looking for.

 If not, shout, and I'll pop them in Dropbox.

 Scott

 On 4/10/15, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Could someone let me know where to get the preset for new Structure?
 I think someone posted a dropbox link while back, but the link doesn't
 work anymore.
 Thanks,

 Chi

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Re: Anyone tried Addictive drums under PT 11 and how's the accessibility status?

[Scott Chesworth]

Same deal as ever. AD1 shows up usable parameters, no native presets,
but the Pro Tools with Speech boys have those. AD2 sounds infinitely
better, but doesn't have usable parameters, and so far as I know
nobody has done the presets dance for that one yet. In both cases and
any other drum plugin I've ever tested come to that, the groove
browsers and other functions that're supposed to make it easy for
sighted folks to throw together parts quickly are inaccessible, so at
this point I'd worry more about learning to sequence well if I were
you. The sounds in the virtual instruments that ship with PT will do
fine and dandy for that purpose, and with programmed drums, I'd argue
that good sequencing is more important for the song than uber real
sounds. Joe Gilder has a course on programming drums that I haven't
actually seen firsthand, but his stuff is generally fairly thorough
and easy to follow. Failing that, you have two other options:
1. Get Logic, because apparently some people have had success using
it's Drummer. Personally I don't think paying out full price for one
thing surrounded by a bunch of other stuff you've already got is the
right move, and I'm loathed to send Apple a chunk of change for a
semi-accessible product that should've been usable years ago, but if
you're not keen on learning to sequence then YMMV.
2. Get hold of audio loops from Beta Monkey and suchlike, build songs
out of those and accept the sounds for what they are. PT isn't great
for loop arrangement, but again, the way around it is to learn to
sequence.

Scott

On 4/9/15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 Hi,
 In PT 10 apparently addictive drums doesn't work at all but how is it in PT
 11.3? Anyone tried it there? If that doesn't work, does anyone have some
 advice on what to get instead?
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Re: Anyone tried Addictive drums under PT 11 and how's the accessibility status?

[Scott Chesworth]

Sequencing is building and arranging parts. Most often, it takes the
form of playing in drum parts on either a keyboard or a set of drum
pads, and then fixing up anything that needs to be tweaked if you're
not one of the super humans who can play software drums with as much
feel as people do on a real kit. Most people can't, there's no shame
in that, there's just major props to the guys who can. For an
experience closer to drum machines though, perhaps you could pick up
some loops or packs of grooves in MIDI format. All of the major drum
plugs come with shed loads of good grooves to use, but annoyingly,
they're usually in a custom format that's hard to get at. Still, might
be worth emailing XLN or any other manufacturer you'd be willing to
part up with some cash for to see whether they'd make an exception and
let you have access to the grooves once you'd purchased a license for
their plugin. If nobody bites or that's too much effort, there are
plenty of third party packs available with preview samples, Google is
your friend. Once you've got a selection of MIDI files to use, you'd
run those through whatever virtual instrument you were using for
drums, then just arrange the MIDI files on the timeline in the best
order to serve the song. If you spend some time learning basic rhythm
theory, you'll be able to go into the MIDI events list to tweak beats
and fills to make them your own even if you're not a great live player
without much hassle.

I'd be very surprised if anyone was willing to put time into a
tutorial on this from a blindness perspective, because really, there's
not much about it that's specific to blindness. It's like almost any
other skill in that the key is to get stuck in with what you have,
then practice over and over until taste and productivity start to
develop.

Scott

On 4/9/15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 See confused question below:

 9 apr 2015 kl. 20:40 skrev Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com:

 PT isn't great
 for loop arrangement, but again, the way around it is to learn to
 sequence

 And here comes the stupid question of the decade, what's sequencing and how
 does one go about doing that in PT? I've used drum machines in the past, but
 i assume it's not the same nowadays. Has anyone done some tutorial about
 sequencing from a blindness perspective? Mainstream tutorials are well and
 good, but when it comes to clicking in places where VO won't go and so on,
 it can quickly be hard to learn.
 /Krister

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Re: Numb pad problem back, question about mouse related possibility.

[Scott Chesworth]

Is MouseKeys enabled perhaps? You can check it in System Prefs,
probably under Universal Access.

Scott

On 4/7/15, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, I let a sighted friend use my rig and when I got back to it my Numb pad
 functions were gone again. He tried to figure it out but was unable. One
 thing that he said was when he pressed the keys on the numb pad the mouse
 pointer was moving around, so I am wondering if something was clicked that
 would tether the numb pad to the mouse in some way? Any thoughts on where I
 should start trouble shooting at?

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Re: Accessibility of pro tools with windows?

[Scott Chesworth]

In PT 10, I could get some stuff done in Windows with screen scraping
(IE, the virtual cursor of whatever screen reader), but nowhere near
enough to run the DAW the way I can on Mac. This might've changed in
PT 11 and up given that it seemed to be a pretty big re-write, but so
far as I know, no effort has gone into improving Windows accessibility
on Avids part, so if it is usable at all it'd be a happy accident.

On 4/3/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Anyone tried it with NVDA and object navigation? That seems to do
 wonders with most things.

 Cheers,

 On 03/04/2015 21:19, Poppa Bear wrote:
 No luck on the windows side.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Michael Kuhlmann
 Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 12:15 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Accessibility of pro tools with windows?

 Hi to the list,

 just for my information. I haven't heard yet, someone using pro tools with
 windows and screen sscreenreaders Is there any kind of accessibility? Or
 isn't it accessible at all?

 Thanks and best.

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Re: Having a bit of an issue with Ezdrummer2 for the Mac demo version

[Scott Chesworth]

That's disappointing news. There's a basic level of usability under
Windows in standalone and as a VSTI, shame it doesn't appear to have
made it across to the Mac version. Keep us posted if you find a fix.

Scott

On 4/2/15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 Hi there,
 I'm trying to test the EZDrummer 2 for the Mac, the demo version to see how
 it sounds, because i was under the impression and correct me if i'm wrong
 please, that Addictive drums 2 could not be used at all even as a plugin
 under Pro tools 11. I have installed EZDrummer and when i open the app in
 stand-alone mode all i get is busy busy, now i don't expect EzDrummer to
 work or rather to be accessible in stand-alone mode, but here's the thing,
 when i open it as a plugin under Protools 11.3 Protools crashes and opens
 the crash reporter. Anyone have had this happen or am i missing something?
 /Krister

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Re: I hate to do this, but...

[Scott Chesworth]

Just so we're clear about what's going on here, two more quotes.

First, we have I posted some questions this morning, but no one is
answerring.  I understand people have jobs, lives, and are busy.  I
know that.  I would have been willing to wait and be patient for a
response... I still am! willing to be patient.  My thing is, I'm
questioning if it's just people being busy, vs. it's people not
knowing the answer to my questions, which I hope isn't the case,
considerring how fundemental not to mention paramount of tasks they
were that I'm trying to accomplish.

Next, we have I'm having a few really bizarre issues, and I can't
seem to find anyone who has any clue what is going on. On a different
list.

I've got no interest in bitching at you. I have a bit of interest in
helping people including you, which is why, in case you haven't
noticed, I've so far been the only person willing to wade through the
diatribe and answer some of your questions.

This shouldn't have been posted here in the first place is my point.
12 hours isn't an unreasonable wait time for voluntary assistance. If
you want it quicker or you want step by steps, pay someone who has
knowledge for their time. Most of us are a pretty cheap date.

Apologies to the PT folks for the continuation of the thread on list.
For what it's worth, I'd have done the same if someone showed up on
RWP insinuating that the knowledge on PTAccess was inadequate, because
it's not the case.

Scott

On 4/2/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Scott, take this with me off list if you have further concerns, however,
 when the heck did I say you all didn't know your stuff.  You're plainly
 putting words in my  mouth.  Don't do that, sir!  I very directly remember
 over there saying flat out, if you think you can help me, then go for it!

 Here's the exact quote from that message where I said this:

 and, I quote,

 Again, if someone's willing to work with me to pinpoint down my issues, then

 great!  By all means, I'm in!  Let's go!  I'm certainly willing to give you

 all a chance to help mee...

 How does that come across to you that I think you all don't know anything?
 Egg freaking skeuze? me for giving you all a chance!

 I am done with this thread on this list.

 Hit me up off list if you wanna bitch at me further.

 Chris.
 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:46 PM
 Subject: Re: I hate to do this, but...


 *sigh*. As I've just pointed out over on said Reaper list, the chances
 are that nobody has had time to read the questions, let alone respond.
 In 12 hours, you've posted over 2000 words to what is ordinarily a
 fairly dry list. Dry as in to the point. Tbh, if I wasn't on a major
 procrastination kick right now, I'd be in with the folks who hadn't
 responded yet. Please don't go OTT and OT on other lists making it
 look like the folks over at RWP don't know their stuff. It's a good
 resource with plenty of knowledge to be shared.

 Thanks

 Scott


 On 4/2/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hate asking this, but I'm absolutely desperet!  Does anyone on here
 use
 Reaper with ReaAccess?  If so, please please please! write me off list.
 I'm
 having a few really bizarre issues, and I can't seem to find anyone who
 has
 any clue what is going on.

 Chris.

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Re: I hate to do this, but...

[Scott Chesworth]

*sigh*. As I've just pointed out over on said Reaper list, the chances
are that nobody has had time to read the questions, let alone respond.
In 12 hours, you've posted over 2000 words to what is ordinarily a
fairly dry list. Dry as in to the point. Tbh, if I wasn't on a major
procrastination kick right now, I'd be in with the folks who hadn't
responded yet. Please don't go OTT and OT on other lists making it
look like the folks over at RWP don't know their stuff. It's a good
resource with plenty of knowledge to be shared.

Thanks

Scott


On 4/2/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hate asking this, but I'm absolutely desperet!  Does anyone on here use
 Reaper with ReaAccess?  If so, please please please! write me off list.  I'm
 having a few really bizarre issues, and I can't seem to find anyone who has
 any clue what is going on.

 Chris.

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Re: Tell me what to buy

[Scott Chesworth]

Is it worth picking up a quad core Mac Mini second hand? If you go
that route, keep an eye open for the server version. It allows you to
shove two drives in the box for a slightly neater setup.

Scott

On 3/31/15, Brian@Wavefield Recordings br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:
 Thanks for that, I was wondering if the PT with speech had setup stuff
 but there might be extra tips and tricks in PT and V O prefs that
 people are using here.

 The gs-r 24 m is in fact an amazing desk, so much so I'll invest in a
 mac and PT and change everything to use its features fully. Its a
 sizable investment though even for a professional setup, but its
 appearance alone is nearly bringing in clients. People will really
 think I'm a grown up studio when I have a mac and a desk now, where as
 before despite some great outboard and great converters people were
 still like, wheres the mixer and what software are you using.

 Now figuring out which mac  to buy as always is a head ache as they've
 ingeniously set out all options to wind up making it a choice between
 spending lots or settling for less.

 If they still had the quad core mac mini I think that would be perfect
 for me, not sure how much performance PT will get out of the current
 dual core i7 at the top of the mini range.

 I'm coming from a quad core i7 2.7 ghz on the windows side with 16 gig
 ram, but the new PT and mac OS is presumably much better at using
 hiper threading etc than Sonar 8 and Windows 7, so maybe a seemingly
 lesser processor in a mac now won't actually leave me too
 disappointed.

 That's kind of off topic though.

 All ideas welcome still!

 On 3/31/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Quad core iMac should serve you well. Envious of your board. I am  a user
 of
 the originator and younger brother of that board the ZED r16 and love it.
 From what i understand PT with speech should walk you through settings
 and
 ge you going.
 On Mar 30, 2015, at 2:03 PM, CaseyBrian Casey
 br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I'm a Sonar user and it looks like my hand is being forced into moving
 to
 ProTools quite quickly for my now commercial studio.

 Essentially I am upgrading to a nice Allen and Heath gs-r 24
 mixer/interface, and for numerous reasons I won't get into both its midi
 control and audio functionality aren't jplaying well with Sonar and my
 PC.
 I could send it back but I don't want to because its just a computer
 issue.

 Anyway, I'm weighing up jumping to working off the mac and ProTools
 exclusively, which may sound some what foolish an it probably is, but I
 did use ProTools and Voice Over for a few projects when 8.0.4 came out
 first and I'll mostly be working from my desk and outboard equipment, so
 it should be a little easier.

 I am thinking of going for a quad core imac because a mac pro is out of
 my
 budget and I don't need too much processing heft.

 So I'd like suggestions of what I should get to start off, I have a
 potential list so far and tell me what you might add/change.

 1. Obviously an external thunderbolt drive for the audio, iLock, full
 keyboard with the num pad etc, most here seem to recommend a track pad
 too?
 2. The latest osx and protools 12 should cause no problems so may as
 well
 go with the new one?


 3. I want to get the ProTools with speech tutorials straight away to get
 up and running with basics fast, is it all still up to date and
 relevant?
 4. Does anyone have or wish to compile for me/future users a list of
 ProTools preference settings, Voice Over preference settings etc that
 will
 serve me well, I have a quick run through the archives but honestly I
 don't have time to read anymore than I have and information is
 fragmented
 between all the various PT changes etc since 8.0.4.

 Other than  these things I don't have any huge ideas short of just
 hitting
 the buy button and jumping in.

 As I say I've used Mac's sparingly and not with loads of joy in the
 past,
 and I do have an iPhone so I'm at least some bit in tune with the evil
 Apple ways.

 Thanks in advance,
 Brian.

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Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about setting lead vocal levels

[Scott Chesworth]

Nope. Hitting something harder basically means sending a louder signal
into it. In PT, a little boost of clip gain is usually the best way to
do that if it's required.

Chris's hotspot tip is golden btw. Need to remember that one myself
next time I'm tracking in PT.

Hth

Scott


On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 When we say hitting a compressor harder, I've never quite understood what
 that exactly means.  Are we saying that we're basically raising the speed of

 the attack, therefore making it kick in sooner?

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about
 setting lead vocal levels


 When I'm recording myself (not something I'm a fan of), I just play it
 uber safe with the meters and concentrate on the actual performance.
 It's too easy to get distracted. I'd say set levels using the chorus
 and the climax you mentioned, maybe take a slightly longer run at that
 part to make sure you're ramping up as much as you're likely to during
 an actual take. If your peaks are where you want them to be during
 those sections, the verses and other quieter parts will be gravy as we
 say here. If you're still nervous, back off the gain a smidgen for
 safety. Assuming you've got a relatively clean signal path, a couple
 DB less on the way in isn't gonna do anything that can't be
 compensated for with a touch of clip gain later on in the process
 should you discover that you need to hit a compressor a little harder.

 Good luck

 Scott

 On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 This might seem to most of you like a very very obvious question, and
 yeah,
 I know ultimately at the end of the day, probably what it's gonna boil
 down
 to is, Just listen and use your ears, but I have a song I'm going to
 be
 recording.  It really doesn't have much dynamic volume changes in the
 lead
 vocal.  Don't get me wrong, there is! a climax to the song, but pretty
 much,
 for what it's worth, the song stays fairly close to the same level
 throughout.

 If it helps, so you all can listen to it on Youtube or something, the
 song
 is called Mercy Said No, and it's by Greg Long.

 Anyway, I don't want to clip during my recording, and obviously I want
 enough wiggleroom before applying any compression, or the like to that
 vocal
 track.  I want to come in probably notch peek around -12DB, no more
 than -10
 pushing it.  That said, seeing this song really doesn't seem to change
 much
 in dynamics, again, it does, but not very much... what is therefore
 probably
 the best way of doing a sound check?  I know how to look at my meters,
 and
 yes, I do have them set to infinity, so that they hold at the peek until

 I
 reset them, but what I'm saying more is, how do I determine what part of

 the
 song is probably the loudest, as I hear that is really when setting mike
 levels where you want to aim.  I hear you really want to sing the part
 of
 the song where you feel you're going to spike the highest level.  But if

 the
 song doesn't have much dynamics, then do I just shoot over all for -12,
 or
 is there a little trick to this.  What my fear is, is that I'm gonna not
 strain, but seeing the chorus does get ever so slightly high for me, I'm
 gonna have to push a bit.  Also to get the emotion I need, I'll have to
 push.  Again, I did, not! say strain, big difference!  It's perfectly
 within
 my range.  Anyway, my fear is that even with a compressor going, which I
 really don't wanna apply until the vocal track is actually totally done,

 I'm
 going to hit some of the higher notes a little too hard, and therefore
 spike
 to the point of clipping, and that's what I'm desperetly trying to
 avoid.

 Is there a sure! fire way to make double dawg sure? I don't clip, or is
 it
 gonna be best really in this situation to just really really use my ears

 and
 pay very close attention.

 Chris.

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Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about setting lead vocal levels

[Scott Chesworth]

When I'm recording myself (not something I'm a fan of), I just play it
uber safe with the meters and concentrate on the actual performance.
It's too easy to get distracted. I'd say set levels using the chorus
and the climax you mentioned, maybe take a slightly longer run at that
part to make sure you're ramping up as much as you're likely to during
an actual take. If your peaks are where you want them to be during
those sections, the verses and other quieter parts will be gravy as we
say here. If you're still nervous, back off the gain a smidgen for
safety. Assuming you've got a relatively clean signal path, a couple
DB less on the way in isn't gonna do anything that can't be
compensated for with a touch of clip gain later on in the process
should you discover that you need to hit a compressor a little harder.

Good luck

Scott

On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 This might seem to most of you like a very very obvious question, and yeah,
 I know ultimately at the end of the day, probably what it's gonna boil down
 to is, Just listen and use your ears, but I have a song I'm going to be
 recording.  It really doesn't have much dynamic volume changes in the lead
 vocal.  Don't get me wrong, there is! a climax to the song, but pretty much,
 for what it's worth, the song stays fairly close to the same level
 throughout.

 If it helps, so you all can listen to it on Youtube or something, the song
 is called Mercy Said No, and it's by Greg Long.

 Anyway, I don't want to clip during my recording, and obviously I want
 enough wiggleroom before applying any compression, or the like to that vocal
 track.  I want to come in probably notch peek around -12DB, no more than -10
 pushing it.  That said, seeing this song really doesn't seem to change much
 in dynamics, again, it does, but not very much... what is therefore probably
 the best way of doing a sound check?  I know how to look at my meters, and
 yes, I do have them set to infinity, so that they hold at the peek until I
 reset them, but what I'm saying more is, how do I determine what part of the
 song is probably the loudest, as I hear that is really when setting mike
 levels where you want to aim.  I hear you really want to sing the part of
 the song where you feel you're going to spike the highest level.  But if the
 song doesn't have much dynamics, then do I just shoot over all for -12, or
 is there a little trick to this.  What my fear is, is that I'm gonna not
 strain, but seeing the chorus does get ever so slightly high for me, I'm
 gonna have to push a bit.  Also to get the emotion I need, I'll have to
 push.  Again, I did, not! say strain, big difference!  It's perfectly within
 my range.  Anyway, my fear is that even with a compressor going, which I
 really don't wanna apply until the vocal track is actually totally done, I'm
 going to hit some of the higher notes a little too hard, and therefore spike
 to the point of clipping, and that's what I'm desperetly trying to avoid.

 Is there a sure! fire way to make double dawg sure? I don't clip, or is it
 gonna be best really in this situation to just really really use my ears and
 pay very close attention.

 Chris.

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Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about setting lead vocal levels

[Scott Chesworth]

I think it's more valuable because it'll allow you to get away from
the keyboard, and into a better position to do whatever it is you're
gonna be doing once the actual recording starts. Just a bit less
switching between frames of mind, if that's not too hippy.

Scott

On 3/26/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Well, just means you can sing one note at a certain loudness for say 10
 seconds, and you can reliably determine what level it's at.

 Cheers,


 Take care,

 Chris Norman

 On 26 Mar 2015, at 19:59, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Nope. Hitting something harder basically means sending a louder signal
 into it. In PT, a little boost of clip gain is usually the best way to
 do that if it's required.

 Chris's hotspot tip is golden btw. Need to remember that one myself
 next time I'm tracking in PT.

 Hth

 Scott


 On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 When we say hitting a compressor harder, I've never quite understood
 what
 that exactly means.  Are we saying that we're basically raising the speed
 of

 the attack, therefore making it kick in sooner?

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about
 setting lead vocal levels


 When I'm recording myself (not something I'm a fan of), I just play it
 uber safe with the meters and concentrate on the actual performance.
 It's too easy to get distracted. I'd say set levels using the chorus
 and the climax you mentioned, maybe take a slightly longer run at that
 part to make sure you're ramping up as much as you're likely to during
 an actual take. If your peaks are where you want them to be during
 those sections, the verses and other quieter parts will be gravy as we
 say here. If you're still nervous, back off the gain a smidgen for
 safety. Assuming you've got a relatively clean signal path, a couple
 DB less on the way in isn't gonna do anything that can't be
 compensated for with a touch of clip gain later on in the process
 should you discover that you need to hit a compressor a little harder.

 Good luck

 Scott

 On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 This might seem to most of you like a very very obvious question, and
 yeah,
 I know ultimately at the end of the day, probably what it's gonna boil
 down
 to is, Just listen and use your ears, but I have a song I'm going to
 be
 recording.  It really doesn't have much dynamic volume changes in the
 lead
 vocal.  Don't get me wrong, there is! a climax to the song, but pretty
 much,
 for what it's worth, the song stays fairly close to the same level
 throughout.

 If it helps, so you all can listen to it on Youtube or something, the
 song
 is called Mercy Said No, and it's by Greg Long.

 Anyway, I don't want to clip during my recording, and obviously I want
 enough wiggleroom before applying any compression, or the like to that
 vocal
 track.  I want to come in probably notch peek around -12DB, no more
 than -10
 pushing it.  That said, seeing this song really doesn't seem to change
 much
 in dynamics, again, it does, but not very much... what is therefore
 probably
 the best way of doing a sound check?  I know how to look at my meters,
 and
 yes, I do have them set to infinity, so that they hold at the peek
 until

 I
 reset them, but what I'm saying more is, how do I determine what part
 of

 the
 song is probably the loudest, as I hear that is really when setting
 mike
 levels where you want to aim.  I hear you really want to sing the part
 of
 the song where you feel you're going to spike the highest level.  But
 if

 the
 song doesn't have much dynamics, then do I just shoot over all for
 -12,
 or
 is there a little trick to this.  What my fear is, is that I'm gonna
 not
 strain, but seeing the chorus does get ever so slightly high for me,
 I'm
 gonna have to push a bit.  Also to get the emotion I need, I'll have
 to
 push.  Again, I did, not! say strain, big difference!  It's perfectly
 within
 my range.  Anyway, my fear is that even with a compressor going, which
 I
 really don't wanna apply until the vocal track is actually totally
 done,

 I'm
 going to hit some of the higher notes a little too hard, and therefore
 spike
 to the point of clipping, and that's what I'm desperetly trying to
 avoid.

 Is there a sure! fire way to make double dawg sure? I don't clip, or
 is
 it
 gonna be best really in this situation to just really really use my
 ears

 and
 pay very close attention.

 Chris.

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Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about setting lead vocal levels

[Scott Chesworth]

Ah, you've caught up ;)

The dock is one thing that still works well IMHO. Nowadays though if
I'm not in PT, then I'm not in Mac OS at all. VO drives me barmy.

On 3/26/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Talking of tips... I know this isn't in any way Pro Tools related, but as
 we're tipping anyways... I just found out you can hit VO-D to go to the dock,
 then start typing the name of the application you want to switch too, then
 hit enter... Much faster than either CMD+Tab, or Jumplists under windows.

 HTH,

 Take care,

 Chris Norman

 On 26 Mar 2015, at 20:13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I think it's more valuable because it'll allow you to get away from
 the keyboard, and into a better position to do whatever it is you're
 gonna be doing once the actual recording starts. Just a bit less
 switching between frames of mind, if that's not too hippy.

 Scott

 On 3/26/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Well, just means you can sing one note at a certain loudness for say 10
 seconds, and you can reliably determine what level it's at.

 Cheers,


 Take care,

 Chris Norman

 On 26 Mar 2015, at 19:59, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Nope. Hitting something harder basically means sending a louder signal
 into it. In PT, a little boost of clip gain is usually the best way to
 do that if it's required.

 Chris's hotspot tip is golden btw. Need to remember that one myself
 next time I'm tracking in PT.

 Hth

 Scott


 On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 When we say hitting a compressor harder, I've never quite understood
 what
 that exactly means.  Are we saying that we're basically raising the
 speed
 of

 the attack, therefore making it kick in sooner?

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about
 setting lead vocal levels


 When I'm recording myself (not something I'm a fan of), I just play
 it
 uber safe with the meters and concentrate on the actual performance.
 It's too easy to get distracted. I'd say set levels using the chorus
 and the climax you mentioned, maybe take a slightly longer run at
 that
 part to make sure you're ramping up as much as you're likely to
 during
 an actual take. If your peaks are where you want them to be during
 those sections, the verses and other quieter parts will be gravy as
 we
 say here. If you're still nervous, back off the gain a smidgen for
 safety. Assuming you've got a relatively clean signal path, a couple
 DB less on the way in isn't gonna do anything that can't be
 compensated for with a touch of clip gain later on in the process
 should you discover that you need to hit a compressor a little
 harder.

 Good luck

 Scott

 On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 This might seem to most of you like a very very obvious question,
 and
 yeah,
 I know ultimately at the end of the day, probably what it's gonna
 boil
 down
 to is, Just listen and use your ears, but I have a song I'm going
 to
 be
 recording.  It really doesn't have much dynamic volume changes in
 the
 lead
 vocal.  Don't get me wrong, there is! a climax to the song, but
 pretty
 much,
 for what it's worth, the song stays fairly close to the same level
 throughout.

 If it helps, so you all can listen to it on Youtube or something,
 the
 song
 is called Mercy Said No, and it's by Greg Long.

 Anyway, I don't want to clip during my recording, and obviously I
 want
 enough wiggleroom before applying any compression, or the like to
 that
 vocal
 track.  I want to come in probably notch peek around -12DB, no more
 than -10
 pushing it.  That said, seeing this song really doesn't seem to
 change
 much
 in dynamics, again, it does, but not very much... what is therefore
 probably
 the best way of doing a sound check?  I know how to look at my
 meters,
 and
 yes, I do have them set to infinity, so that they hold at the peek
 until

 I
 reset them, but what I'm saying more is, how do I determine what
 part
 of

 the
 song is probably the loudest, as I hear that is really when setting
 mike
 levels where you want to aim.  I hear you really want to sing the
 part
 of
 the song where you feel you're going to spike the highest level.
 But
 if

 the
 song doesn't have much dynamics, then do I just shoot over all for
 -12,
 or
 is there a little trick to this.  What my fear is, is that I'm gonna
 not
 strain, but seeing the chorus does get ever so slightly high for me,
 I'm
 gonna have to push a bit.  Also to get the emotion I need, I'll have
 to
 push.  Again, I did, not! say strain, big difference!  It's
 perfectly
 within
 my range.  Anyway, my fear is that even with a compressor going,
 which
 I
 really don't wanna apply until the vocal track is actually totally
 done,

 I'm
 going to hit some

Re: FXpantion BFD3 drum plugin - Is it accessible in Pro tools?

[Scott Chesworth]

The bad news is that there's a custom preset browser, mixer and
authorisation system. However, if enough well labeled parameters are
exposed to automation and either your dealer or FXpantion themselves
could give you a hand with activation, it might still be usable. The
good news is that there's a demo available, so give it a shot. Going
on what I heard at a friend's place, I thought the hats and cymbals
were the most realistic out there at the moment. The drums seemed to
be very versatile, but as usual with BFD they're minimally processed,
so don't expect instant drop in killer sounds like you'd get from
Slate or Toontrack. I suppose one cool thing about that is that it
doesn't sound like Slate or Toontrack lol.

Keep us posted. Would be good to know whether there's any mileage
here. I'm getting itchy feet with EZDrummer 2, it sounds too perfect.

On 3/26/15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Subject kinda says it all. Got an offer from a music vendor that i have done
 a great deal of business with for the FXpantion BFD3, i think the name of
 the plugin was. It was a mighty big plugin anyways. Now i wonder if it's at
 all possible to use this plugin under pro tools or what gives there?
 /Krister

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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

[Scott Chesworth]

Sure, this is what I do at the moment because it works across DAWs.
Takes double the amount of time though for each pass, so thought it
was worth asking.

Scott

On 3/24/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 oh cool. I had no idea! Thanks for that.

 Of course, you can always find the loudest section of the song, loop
 part of it, and read the track or bus meter peaks with compression
 engaged then bypassed.

 At 11:26 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:
Yes, in the sonnets compressor, if you pressed f2, it would read you
the input, output, and gain reduction meters.
Brian
  On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
  really? I've never noticed that. Can you remember what keystroke you
  used?
  I'm asuming you're talking about the Sonitus compressor.
 
 
  At 08:18 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:
  Hi Scott,
  I used to use the Cakewalk Sonar package from Dancing dots with
 the CakeTalking scripts for Jaws.  You could read the gain
 reduction meters in that compressor that came with Sonar.  Thanks,
  Brian
   On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Scott Chesworth
 scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hi Brian,
  
   I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another
   one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction
   with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just
   because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to
   drop
   me a line off list so we don't stray off topic.
  
   Cheers
  
   Scott
  
   On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
   How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain
 reduction meters
   in pt?
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle
   onlineea...@googlemail.com
   wrote:
  
   Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would
   be
   massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in
 compressors too. I'm a
   bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a
 track. If you
   have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume
 adjustment affect
   the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was
 a trim and a
   volume option.
   Thanks aplenty Slau.
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay
   overdriverecord...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My
 input. I agree
   with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in
 larger increments.
   Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters
   in
   compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2
   popup
   menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work
 with voiceover.
   This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
  
   On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
 Is there any hope for
 structure?  That is an
  
   Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice
 to be able to
  
   adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to
 type in values
  
   directly.
   Keep up the good work Slau!
   Gord
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Slau Halatyn
   Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
   To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
  
   Hi John,
  
   Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is
 definitely an
   issue
   that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters
 are accessible
   via
   a control surface. For those who don't have a surface,
 I'll see if I can
  
   come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time.
 I'm leaving
   town
   this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.
  
   The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its
   name.
   VoiceOver
   indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In
   other
   words,
   much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the
 name of the
   button
   as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.
  
   Hope that helps.
  
   best,
  
   Slau
  
   On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:
  
   Hello Slau,
  
   Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple
   of
   things I
   have.
  
   First when selecting a click sound other then the default
 click, I am
  
   unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course
   is
   setting up a click track.
  
   Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a
   way
   finding the status of a track if it is set to input
 monitor?  Tryied
   to
   bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because
   of
   input
   monitor.
  
   Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of
 my feedback.
  
   John
  
  
   On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn
 slauh...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique
 opportunity to sit
   down
   with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues
 in Pro Tools.
  
   Under

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Brian,

I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another
one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction
with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just
because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to drop
me a line off list so we don't stray off topic.

Cheers

Scott

On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters
 in pt?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a
 bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you
 have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect
 the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a
 volume option.
 Thanks aplenty Slau.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree
 with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments.
 Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in
 compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup
 menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover.
 This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason

 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
Is there any hope for structure?  That is an

 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to

 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values

 directly.
 Keep up the good work Slau!
 Gord

 -Original Message-
 From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

 Hi John,

 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an
 issue
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible
 via
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can

 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving
 town
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.

 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name.
 VoiceOver
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other
 words,
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the
 button
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.

 Hope that helps.

 best,

 Slau

 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:

  Hello Slau,
 
  Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of
  things I
  have.
 
  First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am
 
  unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
  setting up a click track.
 
  Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
  finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied
  to
  bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of
  input
  monitor.
 
  Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.
 
  John
 
 
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
  down
  with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
 
  Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting
  to
  be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro
  Tools
  12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the
 
  beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is
  focused
  on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that
  affect
  the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts
 
  and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs
  to be
  overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be
  taken
  care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
  I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed
  but I
  thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of
  the
  list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
 
  productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for
  people
  to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing
  track.
  That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term
  solution.
  These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed
  quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking
  existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and
 
  we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns.
  The
  

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Slau,

My bad, I should've written bundled instead of stock. I'm thinking of
the Air stuff in particular anything synthy where we've still got to
go through and recreate presets in the format PT likes. Thinking about
it though, are those plugs even developed in-house? I suspect not.

Scott


On 3/17/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Scott,

 When speaking of stock plug-ins, I'm not sure what you're referring to in
 terms of them not being accessible. Give me an example.

 Thanks,

 Slau

 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Slau,

 My top 3 biggies would be a boozy heckle of ain't that the truth, you
 tell 'em sister when you mentioned inserts/sends, improved tracking
 between the location of the play head and VO focus in the MIDI event
 list, and anything at all that can be done to improve GUI elements of
 Avid stock plugins which aren't currently accessible natively. If this
 is all too much big picture stuff, shout and I'll be more specific or
 substitute for smaller niggles.

 Cheers

 Scott

 On 3/16/15, HF hermanfer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Slau,

 You have probably covered the really important things for the rest of
 us.

 One thing for me that is important and this could just be a workflow
 thing that I haven't quite nailed down is using the comping keyboard
 shortcut in playlist view. Right now comping consists of navigating to
 playlist button, copying what we want, navigating to playlist button
 again, selecting master playlist and pasting in. That's four steps or
 five.. In playlist view, it consist of auditioning alternative
 takes/lanes, making a selection and promoting with one keystroke to the
 master playlist.

 HF

 On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
 down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
 Under
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools
 12.
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on
 day
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the
 use
 of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be
 taken
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but
 I
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of
 the
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for
 people
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track.
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution.
 These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed
 quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking
 existing
 issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see
 which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you
 get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

 Thanks,

 Slau


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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Slau,

My top 3 biggies would be a boozy heckle of ain't that the truth, you
tell 'em sister when you mentioned inserts/sends, improved tracking
between the location of the play head and VO focus in the MIDI event
list, and anything at all that can be done to improve GUI elements of
Avid stock plugins which aren't currently accessible natively. If this
is all too much big picture stuff, shout and I'll be more specific or
substitute for smaller niggles.

Cheers

Scott

On 3/16/15, HF hermanfer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Slau,

 You have probably covered the really important things for the rest of us.

 One thing for me that is important and this could just be a workflow
 thing that I haven't quite nailed down is using the comping keyboard
 shortcut in playlist view. Right now comping consists of navigating to
 playlist button, copying what we want, navigating to playlist button
 again, selecting master playlist and pasting in. That's four steps or
 five.. In playlist view, it consist of auditioning alternative
 takes/lanes, making a selection and promoting with one keystroke to the
 master playlist.

 HF

 On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12.
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use
 of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track.
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution.
 These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed
 quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing
 issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see
 which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you
 get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

 Thanks,

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Re: a plug-in story with a happy ending

[Scott Chesworth]

Awesome! A ton of popular plugins are built using Juce, so let's see
how much of a difference this makes. Strikes me that contacting a
developer to say hey, can you rebuild using the most recent version
of a framework would be so much easier to get results than hey, can
you learn about this entirely new way of using a computer that you've
probably never heard of and read these guidelines and do a ton of
work. I'll definitely be springing for these once the changes go live
just to show some support for them going above and beyond what you
asked to be done.

Scott

On 3/14/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 A few years ago, I heard of a plug-in that was said to be great for
 automatically phase aligning two sources. I forgot the name of the company
 but I wasn't using the latest version of Pro Tools full time at the studio
 so I forgot about it. A year later, Frank Filipetti told me about a plug-in
 he couldn't live without called Surfer EQ. I looked into it and it was made
 by the same company, Sound Radix. When I finally heard about yet another
 plug-in from sound Radix that everybody was raving about (called Drum
 Leveler), I decided to try Drum Leveler. This was last year. and I was
 finally using Pro Tools 11 on a regular basis. I was particularly interested
 in Drum Leveler because, like Sound Radix's other plug-ins, it was
 revolutionary in its design and functionality.

 I downloaded the demo and found that, while I could choose presets from the
 Pro Tools preset pop-up menu, I couldn't change any parameters. I contacted
 the developer and explained the situation and asked if they could look into
 it. well, the folks at Sound Radix couldn't have been nicer and were very
 interested in solving the issue. They asked me to make screen-capture
 QuickTime movie of how I interacted with the plug-in and how I worked with
 VoiceOver in general. They told me they thought they knew what the problem
 might be and that they'd work on it at some point. Again, this was late last
 year.

 Two days ago I received a link to a beta of the next Drum Leveler with some
 new features and the problem was solved and I could control all parameters
 with VoiceOver. Further, and more importantly, Sound radix had added some
 functionality and support for VoiceOver directly into the JUCE platform for
 software development. JUCE is a platform that is used by many audio plug-in
 developers who create cross-platform plug-ins. Once officially incorporated
 into JUCE (which will happen any day), any developer compiling plug-ins of
 any format for any DAW will automatically accommodate VoiceOver for
 interacting with the AAX version of the plug-in. I have no idea if this
 affects other DAWs and platforms but I would imagine, since it is
 cross-platform, that it would. At any rate, this was an unexpected fringe
 benefit of the developers at Sound Radix to contribute to the JUCE project.

 Further, Sound Radix will be updating the rest of their plug-ins which will
 fix VoiceOver control within those plug-ins. Currently, they have four
 plug-ins:
 Auto Align, which aligns phase relationships between two sources, π, which
 auto aligns multiple sources, Surfer eQ, which is too crazy to try to
 explain and Drum Leveler, which is a transient designer capable of
 independently controlling separate transients.

 There is a bundle of all four plug-ins for $599. Each plug-in is also sold
 separately. For anybody who owns individual plug-ins, they do have periodic
 sales and introductory offers from time to time. For example,  when Drum
 Leveler came out, it was 99 dollars and now it's 149 dollars and, in honor
 of π day (3 14 15), their π plug-in, normally 249 dollars, is only 99
 dollars. Again, mind you, the current downloadable versions of the software
 don't work well with VoiceOver but do work with control surfaces. As soon as
 I hear about the updates, I'll let the list know. The point is that this
 developer has really been very supportive and has potentially helped a
 number of other plug-in developers by contributing modules to the JUCE
 project for software development.

 SoundRadix.com
 Keep them on your radar.

 Slau

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Eleven rack

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi chaps,

I'm in the market for an external processor that can be used for
guitar and bass. The Eleven rack sounds fairly good, so thought I'd
post to see how people were getting on with it accessibility-wise. I
know the standalone editor is inaccessible, but does that totally
replace being able to control it from within Pro Tools? If it does, is
anyone in contact with Avid about that product specifically? I guess
if all of the answers to those questions are stuff I won't be pleased
about, is there another multi-fx unit you'd recommend with some sort
of accessible solution for more advanced editing and configuration of
presets? The box will be going out on the road live sometimes, hence
my search for something I can get organised independently to avoid
fiddling about in menus at show time. Feel free to shoot answers to
that last question at me off list.

Cheers, and my back thanks you in advance as it longs for the day when
I'm not lugging my own body weight to shows.

Scott

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Re: YouTube video Icon Digital QCon Pro

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi Mac,

Either we're talking about different hardware when we say MCU, or my
knowledge is out of date. I'm talking about a Mackie Control
Universal, which so far as I know has all of those features, has
plenty of other blind users world-wide so you're more likely to get
replies to questions, is easy to find in good condition used so you
could try out a decent surface without quite so much investment, and
doesn't have a touch screen.

Like I said, I don't make any effort to stay current on surfaces
because what I have here seems to work ok, so forgive me if the MCU
has been reissued since last time I looked. If it hasn't though, I'd
say that other than extendability for a matching audio interface
(which is an ergonomic choice more than anything), this seems a bit
like they're just reinventing the wheel. Not saying it's bad, just
saying that no huge advantages leap out here for the extra money I'd
have to spend if I were in your position.

Scott

On 3/7/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Price, extensible up to 32 faders, rotary knobs with notches, space for a
 sound card, useable for many daws to name some. MCU has a touch screen I
 don't need, nor want to pay for.
 Mac



 Op 7 mrt. 2015 om 16:34 heeft Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 het volgende geschreven:

 Yep, that one worked thanks.

 Personally, I can't really see any advantage of this over an MCU.

 Anyone else?

 On 3/7/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi hope this works
 Mac
 video on YouTube:

 http://youtu.be/AsgL1TnPIAQ



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Re: YouTube video Icon Digital QCon Pro

[Scott Chesworth]

Yep, that one worked thanks.

Personally, I can't really see any advantage of this over an MCU.

Anyone else?

On 3/7/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi hope this works
 Mac
 video on YouTube:

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Re: Feedback Wanted: iOS Instrument Tuner App with Audible Clicking?

[Scott Chesworth]

Yo Chris,

I already own Talking Tuner, but would welcome this as a feature and
would almost definitely prefer to use it over the TTS. I have one
additional suggestion to add though. I like the idea of clicking speed
representing the amount of cents between your current pitch and in
tune a lot, but for those of us without perfect pitch, it'd be handy
if the note you're closest too was spoken just once. This avoids the
possibility of having a technically perfectly tuned instrument, only
to discover that you've tuned half a step lower than you intended or
something by mistake. Believe it or not, this has actually happened to
me. Lemme tell ya, that was a hairy 4 minutes getting through the
first song transposing everything in my head and avoiding open
strings. Worst part was that the first three songs of the gig were
planned to flow straight into each other lol! On the tuner pedal I
commissioned a chap to build for me, I use 3 different constant tones
to represent flat, sharp and in tune, and I've had those tone
generators set to specific notes so that I can hopefully avoid that
mistake happening again. Thing is, that's nice and efficient for on
stage, but annoying as all hell to listen to in quieter environments
or at times when there's less of a hurry. I reckon clicks would be
better suited to those instances, much more subtle.

Cool idea. Hope it gets implemented.

Scott

On 3/7/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 can you explain what you mean there?

 At 11:29 PM 3/6/2015, you wrote:
Yes pro level is awesome.

Daniel Contreras

  On Mar 6, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Yes I would buy it.I use a tone generator type  tuner I will have
 to check out talking tuner did not know about it.
 
  Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
  On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I thought you were talking about Hitotomo Katsura, the guy who
 created accessible tuning applications for OS X like Piano Tuner,
 Pro Level and another tuner whose name I obviously forgot because I
 thought it was called Talking Tuner. My mistake. Thing is, he did
 create a tuner that is accessible with voiceOver and has automatic
 speech capabilities. I'll see if I can find the name of the application
 again.
 
  Slau
 
  On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
  Hi Slau.
 
  Who do you mean? The guy I'm talking to is named Ron Nichols.
 
  At 11:35 AM 3/6/2015, you wrote:
  Katsura's a good guy and critical thinker, BTW. He's always
 been very supportive. Put me down for any and all products. He sent
 me free licenses back in 2010 but I'd buy everything, especially
 since he's ported over to iOS.
 
  Slau
 
  On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
  Hi folks.
 
  I'm in touch with the guy behind Talking Tuner and other
 instrument tuning apps.  I've asked him if it would be possible to
 include an audible tuning feature which clicks slower or faster, as
 you approach or move away from the target pitch while tuning.  In
 other words, very slow or no clicking would be very much in tune
 and the clicking speeds up as you get more out of tune.
  A similar feature can be found in the Chromatia Software
 Tuner for the PC, from FMJ Software.
 
  So, would people be interested in this, as in, actually buy
 an app which contained this feature?  I have no idea if he's
 thinking of incporporating this into Talking Tuner, or developing a
 separate app.  Personally, I think it would be fine as a new
 feature for Talking Tuner, since that app is already very simple.
 
  He's more interested in this idea than say, a tone generator,
 since there are already lots of tone generating apps out there.
 
  Let me know if you would actually buy this app or be
 interested in it as a feature if you already own Talking Tuner.
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
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Re: Link qcon review

[Scott Chesworth]

Couldn't get the vid to play here. What am I missing?

On 3/6/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys
 Please watch this video review of qcon pro with pro tools.
 Please comment.
 Mac

 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/videos/watch/icon-digital-qcon-pro/336765911



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