Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Chris, As you said, in bars and beats, it represents bars and beats so, following that logic, in minutes and seconds, it represents minutes and seconds. Figure out how much time you need in whichever format your session is in and go for it. Slau On May 2, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, seconds. At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Yeah, I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from. Five seconds is five seconds of time! At 07:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Chris, As you said, in bars and beats, it represents bars and beats so, following that logic, in minutes and seconds, it represents minutes and seconds. Figure out how much time you need in whichever format your session is in and go for it. Slau On May 2, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both. I didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both. I thought it was an absolute bar value. In other words, I thought that you only could say 3 bars. I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats. Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds. I was under the impression you only could specify an exact value. I didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds. I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as well. I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30. So I was asking with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, what the different values would represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds. Again, now I see it's both. Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me! I was really trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for! I was just asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, seconds. At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Ahoy There! :) This is not advanced ProTools Questions this is basic PT questions just to clarify the Traffic about this! I'm holding a seminar soon about setting pre roll and post roll in PT, if any body wants to join me contact me off list!? ;) YMMV Chuck CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust On May 2, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Chris Smart wrote: Yeah, I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from. Five seconds is five seconds of time! At 07:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Chris, As you said, in bars and beats, it represents bars and beats so, following that logic, in minutes and seconds, it represents minutes and seconds. Figure out how much time you need in whichever format your session is in and go for it. Slau On May 2, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
I'll save us the bother and not reply in future. I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour increments would be for recording but ok ... At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both. I didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both. I thought it was an absolute bar value. In other words, I thought that you only could say 3 bars. I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats. Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds. I was under the impression you only could specify an exact value. I didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds. I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as well. I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30. So I was asking with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, what the different values would represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds. Again, now I see it's both. Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me! I was really trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for! I was just asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, seconds. At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making
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If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself. It doesn't bother me. There are plenty of others who I know will be happy to help. You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's better. I respect your decision. Smile. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions I'll save us the bother and not reply in future. I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour increments would be for recording but ok ... At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both. I didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both. I thought it was an absolute bar value. In other words, I thought that you only could say 3 bars. I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats. Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds. I was under the impression you only could specify an exact value. I didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds. I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as well. I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30. So I was asking with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, what the different values would represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds. Again, now I see it's both. Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me! I was really trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for! I was just asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, seconds. At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM
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I think we are all in the same boat here and trying to learn pro tools with VoiceOver isn't straightforward and can be frustrating at times for all of us. I read this forum every day and pick up hints and tips and maybe when I'm a bit more clued up I'll be able to help others too but in the meantime what I've read here is gold and frankly without it I'd be struggling at college but as it is I'm managing nicely. So, if there is something you know that someone else doesn't then help them and at some point someone will help you in return. In short, we are all on the same team effectively so lets keep it that way and we'll all benefit and become pro tools ninjas in the end. Cheers, Alan, Oban, Scotland Sent from my iPhone On 2 May 2014, at 16:49, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself. It doesn't bother me. There are plenty of others who I know will be happy to help. You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's better. I respect your decision. Smile. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions I'll save us the bother and not reply in future. I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour increments would be for recording but ok ... At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both. I didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both. I thought it was an absolute bar value. In other words, I thought that you only could say 3 bars. I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats. Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds. I was under the impression you only could specify an exact value. I didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds. I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as well. I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30. So I was asking with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, what the different values would represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds. Again, now I see it's both. Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me! I was really trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for! I was just asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, seconds. At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's
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Chris, if you get a chance, grab a wireless keyboard with a numb pad IMO. I like pressing 3 on the num pad for recording quick punch because it is a one button step and in my experience I have got punches in at a fraction of a second. It sounds like you will save a whole lot of time considering your set up. If you have the key board in your hand you can punch in over and over without having to walk over to the keyboard each time to hit record. This way you can do 10 takes in about a minute or less depending on the length of the punch. HTH - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 7:49 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself. It doesn't bother me. There are plenty of others who I know will be happy to help. You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's better. I respect your decision. Smile. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions I'll save us the bother and not reply in future. I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour increments would be for recording but ok ... At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both. I didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both. I thought it was an absolute bar value. In other words, I thought that you only could say 3 bars. I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats. Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds. I was under the impression you only could specify an exact value. I didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds. I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as well. I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30. So I was asking with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, what the different values would represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds. Again, now I see it's both. Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me! I was really trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for! I was just asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, seconds. At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess
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Allen, I couldn't have said your post better had I tried! You literally took the words out of my mouth. Well, ok, out of my fingers. LOL! Just kidding with ya. Seriously though, we're all adults here, so let's act like them. K? Smile. Be blessed. Chris. - Original Message - From: Alan Macdonald alan.macdon...@totalise.co.uk To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:07 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions I think we are all in the same boat here and trying to learn pro tools with VoiceOver isn't straightforward and can be frustrating at times for all of us. I read this forum every day and pick up hints and tips and maybe when I'm a bit more clued up I'll be able to help others too but in the meantime what I've read here is gold and frankly without it I'd be struggling at college but as it is I'm managing nicely. So, if there is something you know that someone else doesn't then help them and at some point someone will help you in return. In short, we are all on the same team effectively so lets keep it that way and we'll all benefit and become pro tools ninjas in the end. Cheers, Alan, Oban, Scotland Sent from my iPhone On 2 May 2014, at 16:49, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself. It doesn't bother me. There are plenty of others who I know will be happy to help. You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's better. I respect your decision. Smile. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions I'll save us the bother and not reply in future. I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour increments would be for recording but ok ... At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both. I didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both. I thought it was an absolute bar value. In other words, I thought that you only could say 3 bars. I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats. Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds. I was under the impression you only could specify an exact value. I didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds. I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as well. I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30. So I was asking with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, what the different values would represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds. Again, now I see it's both. Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me! I was really trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for! I was just asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, seconds. At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll
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That's not a half bad idea. I didn't even think about a wireless keyboard. I'm a dork! LOL! Just kidding. Seriously though. Thanks for the tip. Chris. - Original Message - From: Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 1:09 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, if you get a chance, grab a wireless keyboard with a numb pad IMO. I like pressing 3 on the num pad for recording quick punch because it is a one button step and in my experience I have got punches in at a fraction of a second. It sounds like you will save a whole lot of time considering your set up. If you have the key board in your hand you can punch in over and over without having to walk over to the keyboard each time to hit record. This way you can do 10 takes in about a minute or less depending on the length of the punch. HTH - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 7:49 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself. It doesn't bother me. There are plenty of others who I know will be happy to help. You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's better. I respect your decision. Smile. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions I'll save us the bother and not reply in future. I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour increments would be for recording but ok ... At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both. I didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both. I thought it was an absolute bar value. In other words, I thought that you only could say 3 bars. I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats. Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds. I was under the impression you only could specify an exact value. I didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds. I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as well. I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30. So I was asking with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, what the different values would represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds. Again, now I see it's both. Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me! I was really trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for! I was just asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, seconds. At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm
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On May 2, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both. Chris, I think I see where the confusion came in. Part of that might have been from just reading the text of my reply rather than going to the Transport window and finding the pre-roll field. There, you probably would have seen something like 1|0|000 or 0:02.000. It would have been self-evident that you could enter any value as long as you followed the convention of the session time format (eg. bars/beats or minutes:seconds, etc.). Anyway, I think you're all set. Now, weren't you using something like the 002 or 003? Those interfaces have a footswitch jack for punching in, BTW. Just another option in case you needed one. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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No Slau, I'm using a Fast Track C400 from M-Audio which doesn't have that ability. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions On May 2, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both. Chris, I think I see where the confusion came in. Part of that might have been from just reading the text of my reply rather than going to the Transport window and finding the pre-roll field. There, you probably would have seen something like 1|0|000 or 0:02.000. It would have been self-evident that you could enter any value as long as you followed the convention of the session time format (eg. bars/beats or minutes:seconds, etc.). Anyway, I think you're all set. Now, weren't you using something like the 002 or 003? Those interfaces have a footswitch jack for punching in, BTW. Just another option in case you needed one. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A few more advanced ProTools Questions
OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these. First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part right before sounds flawless? I don't want to chance ruinning a perfectly good measure just to get the bar after it sounding good. That just seems a little over kill. Yeah, I know about the playlist option in the edit window on each track, and yes I know about comping. I confess I don't do it much, but I think I'm gonna start getting myself more in the habbit of it. If I want a pollished recording, then face it, sometimes you have to do the more dirty tedious work, but in the long run, it's well worth it. Anyway, so what I'd like to do is a punch in/out. This is just an example. It doesn't mean it's the song I'm working with, but it's one that I know must people know, so it'll make my point really well. Let's take the song Take it Easy by The Eagles. I, natrually am really not a tennor. I kind of, ish, can do it, but not real well. So let's take the chorus. Take it easy, take it easy! Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy. Lighten up while you still can. Let's say I'm in the key of G. This means on lighten up, when I hit that C chord, my voice has to hit that G4. So, basically, the G above middle C. For me, that's way stretching it! I can do it, but it's a major struggle. Notice, I said struggle, I did not say strain. I'm not straining to hit it, trust me. I can hit it, just not very full strength usually, at least not on the first try. I usually have to do it a few times to warm/loosen up. So, what I'm thinking is, if I had a way I could start playing the session right where my vocals say Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy... I could sing along with that part, not recording, then as soon as I get past that, have the record engage automatically, let me then keep singing seemlessly, lighten up while you still can, don't even try to understand, just find a place to take your stand, and take it easy. After that, have the record disengage all by itself. My mike isn't near enough to my workstation that I can have my hands on the keyboard, nor is it easy for me to hit that line with no prior warning to lead up to it. I just feel I need to easily work my way into it. So yeah, if this can be done, please tell me literally step by step, keystroke by keystroke what I'd hit to do it. My second question is, let's say I'm doing a slow country song, and at the very end, the last two or three bars need to be slower tempo, giving me a ending retard kind of effect. If you wonder what I'm talking about, listen, for instance to the end of Every Light in the House is on by Trace Adkins. That's a perfect! example! So, I know in the event, tempo operations window, how to go to constant, and set a constant BPM, but then, how do I have it do a retard for me? I'm almost done, just two more things. If I'm in say, 4/4 time, and all a sudden, at the start of a bar, I need to switch time signatures without moving the tempo, is there a way I can do that? Finally, If I've inserted midi tracks into my session, and have their output paths going to different xpand2 instrument tracks, is there then a way that I could save that arrangement as a .mid midi file? I know it won't save audio, and I know the samples in the xpand2 tracks wouldn't be saved as midi. I'm perfectly aware of that. I know the whole thing about midi isn't sound. I know it's just 1's and 0's, hince, why I'm routing their outputs to instrument tracks. I just wonder if I could then take those midi tracks, assign the correct GM patches to them like piano, guitar, base, drums on channel 10, etc. then export them down where any midi player, even something simple as WinAmp on Windows could then play the .mid file back with the correct patches in place, and would sound decent. Again, I'm sorry for all the questions, but again, I trust you all will pitch in and help me out here a bit. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when typing in the pre-roll value. Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when you're done with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and get to a particular bar, I guarantee it'll confuse you when you hear the music from the previous bar and you'll swear that you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and you'll be hearing bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually are at bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first. I'll let someone else take the other questions. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these. First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part right before sounds flawless? I don't want to chance ruinning a perfectly good measure just to get the bar after it sounding good. That just seems a little over kill. Yeah, I know about the playlist option in the edit window on each track, and yes I know about comping. I confess I don't do it much, but I think I'm gonna start getting myself more in the habbit of it. If I want a pollished recording, then face it, sometimes you have to do the more dirty tedious work, but in the long run, it's well worth it. Anyway, so what I'd like to do is a punch in/out. This is just an example. It doesn't mean it's the song I'm working with, but it's one that I know must people know, so it'll make my point really well. Let's take the song Take it Easy by The Eagles. I, natrually am really not a tennor. I kind of, ish, can do it, but not real well. So let's take the chorus. Take it easy, take it easy! Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy. Lighten up while you still can. Let's say I'm in the key of G. This means on lighten up, when I hit that C chord, my voice has to hit that G4. So, basically, the G above middle C. For me, that's way stretching it! I can do it, but it's a major struggle. Notice, I said struggle, I did not say strain. I'm not straining to hit it, trust me. I can hit it, just not very full strength usually, at least not on the first try. I usually have to do it a few times to warm/loosen up. So, what I'm thinking is, if I had a way I could start playing the session right where my vocals say Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy... I could sing along with that part, not recording, then as soon as I get past that, have the record engage automatically, let me then keep singing seemlessly, lighten up while you still can, don't even try to understand, just find a place to take your stand, and take it easy. After that, have the record disengage all by itself. My mike isn't near enough to my workstation that I can have my hands on the keyboard, nor is it easy for me to hit that line with no prior warning to lead up to it. I just feel I need to easily work my way into it. So yeah, if this can be done, please tell me literally step by step, keystroke by keystroke what I'd hit to do it. My second question is, let's say I'm doing a slow country song, and at the very end, the last two or three bars need to be slower tempo, giving me a ending retard kind of effect. If you wonder what I'm talking about, listen, for instance to the end of Every Light in the House is on by Trace Adkins. That's a perfect! example! So, I know in the event, tempo operations window, how to go to constant, and set a constant BPM, but then, how do I have it do a retard for me? I'm almost
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when typing in the pre-roll value. Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when you're done with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and get to a particular bar, I guarantee it'll confuse you when you hear the music from the previous bar and you'll swear that you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and you'll be hearing bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually are at bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first. I'll let someone else take the other questions. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these. First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part right before sounds flawless? I don't want to chance ruinning a perfectly good measure just to get the bar after it sounding good. That just seems a little over kill. Yeah, I know about the playlist option in the edit window on each track, and yes I know about comping. I confess I don't do it much, but I think I'm gonna start getting myself more in the habbit of it. If I want a pollished recording, then face it, sometimes you have to do the more dirty tedious work, but in the long run, it's well worth it. Anyway, so what I'd like to do is a punch in/out. This is just an example. It doesn't mean it's the song I'm working with, but it's one that I know must people know, so it'll make my point really well. Let's take the song Take it Easy by The Eagles. I, natrually am really not a tennor. I kind of, ish, can do it, but not real well. So let's take the chorus. Take it easy, take it easy! Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy. Lighten up while you still can. Let's say I'm in the key of G. This means on lighten up, when I hit that C chord, my voice has to hit that G4. So, basically, the G above middle C. For me, that's way stretching it! I can do it, but it's a major struggle. Notice, I said struggle, I did not say strain. I'm not straining to hit it, trust me. I can hit it, just not very full strength usually, at least not on the first try. I usually have to do it a few times to warm/loosen up. So, what I'm thinking is, if I had a way I could start playing the session right where my vocals say Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy... I could sing along with that part, not recording, then as soon as I get past that, have the record engage automatically, let me then keep singing seemlessly, lighten up while you still can, don't even try
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Chris, for quick punchins like this, I just make sure that under the options that quick punch is checked and then play the section you want and when you get to the area you want to start recording at, press 3 on the num pad and your on live and then stop as soon as your done. That is my way most of the time. - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these. First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part right before sounds flawless? I don't want to chance ruinning a perfectly good measure just to get the bar after it sounding good. That just seems a little over kill. Yeah, I know about the playlist option in the edit window on each track, and yes I know about comping. I confess I don't do it much, but I think I'm gonna start getting myself more in the habbit of it. If I want a pollished recording, then face it, sometimes you have to do the more dirty tedious work, but in the long run, it's well worth it. Anyway, so what I'd like to do is a punch in/out. This is just an example. It doesn't mean it's the song I'm working with, but it's one that I know must people know, so it'll make my point really well. Let's take the song Take it Easy by The Eagles. I, natrually am really not a tennor. I kind of, ish, can do it, but not real well. So let's take the chorus. Take it easy, take it easy! Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy. Lighten up while you still can. Let's say I'm in the key of G. This means on lighten up, when I hit that C chord, my voice has to hit that G4. So, basically, the G above middle C. For me, that's way stretching it! I can do it, but it's a major struggle. Notice, I said struggle, I did not say strain. I'm not straining to hit it, trust me. I can hit it, just not very full strength usually, at least not on the first try. I usually have to do it a few times to warm/loosen up. So, what I'm thinking is, if I had a way I could start playing the session right where my vocals say Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy... I could sing along with that part, not recording, then as soon as I get past that, have the record engage automatically, let me then keep singing seemlessly, lighten up while you still can, don't even try to understand, just find a place to take your stand, and take it easy. After that, have the record disengage all by itself. My mike isn't near enough to my workstation that I can have my hands on the keyboard, nor is it easy for me to hit that line with no prior warning to lead up to it. I just feel I need to easily work my way into it. So yeah, if this can be done, please tell me literally step by step, keystroke by keystroke what I'd hit to do it. My second question is, let's say I'm doing a slow country song, and at the very end, the last two or three bars need to be slower tempo, giving me a ending retard kind of effect. If you wonder what I'm talking about, listen, for instance to the end of Every Light in the House is on by Trace Adkins. That's a perfect! example! So, I know in the event, tempo operations window, how to go to constant, and set a constant BPM, but then, how do I have it do a retard for me? I'm almost done, just two more things. If I'm in say, 4/4 time, and all a sudden, at the start of a bar, I need to switch time signatures without moving the tempo, is there a way I can do that? Finally, If I've inserted midi tracks into my session, and have their output paths going to different xpand2 instrument tracks, is there then a way that I could save that arrangement as a .mid midi file? I know it won't save audio, and I know the samples in the xpand2 tracks wouldn't be saved as midi. I'm perfectly aware of that. I know the whole thing about midi isn't sound. I know it's just 1's and 0's, hince, why I'm routing their outputs to instrument tracks. I just wonder if I could then take those midi tracks, assign the correct GM patches to them like piano, guitar, base, drums on channel 10, etc. then export them down where any midi player, even something simple as WinAmp on Windows could then play the .mid file back with the correct patches in place, and would sound decent. Again, I'm sorry for all the questions, but again, I trust you all will pitch
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
That would be great, except that my mac's keyboard is all the way across the room from where the mikes are being placed, and there's no way around that, with the way my studio is setup. Chris. - Original Message - From: Poppa Bear To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:19 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, for quick punchins like this, I just make sure that under the options that quick punch is checked and then play the section you want and when you get to the area you want to start recording at, press 3 on the num pad and your on live and then stop as soon as your done. That is my way most of the time. - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these. First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part right before sounds flawless? I don't want to chance ruinning a perfectly good measure just to get the bar after it sounding good. That just seems a little over kill. Yeah, I know about the playlist option in the edit window on each track, and yes I know about comping. I confess I don't do it much, but I think I'm gonna start getting myself more in the habbit of it. If I want a pollished recording, then face it, sometimes you have to do the more dirty tedious work, but in the long run, it's well worth it. Anyway, so what I'd like to do is a punch in/out. This is just an example. It doesn't mean it's the song I'm working with, but it's one that I know must people know, so it'll make my point really well. Let's take the song Take it Easy by The Eagles. I, natrually am really not a tennor. I kind of, ish, can do it, but not real well. So let's take the chorus. Take it easy, take it easy! Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy. Lighten up while you still can. Let's say I'm in the key of G. This means on lighten up, when I hit that C chord, my voice has to hit that G4. So, basically, the G above middle C. For me, that's way stretching it! I can do it, but it's a major struggle. Notice, I said struggle, I did not say strain. I'm not straining to hit it, trust me. I can hit it, just not very full strength usually, at least not on the first try. I usually have to do it a few times to warm/loosen up. So, what I'm thinking is, if I had a way I could start playing the session right where my vocals say Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy... I could sing along with that part, not recording, then as soon as I get past that, have the record engage automatically, let me then keep singing seemlessly, lighten up while you still can, don't even try to understand, just find a place to take your stand, and take it easy. After that, have the record disengage all by itself. My mike isn't near enough to my workstation that I can have my hands on the keyboard, nor is it easy for me to hit that line with no prior warning to lead up to it. I just feel I need to easily work my way into it. So yeah, if this can be done, please tell me literally step by step, keystroke by keystroke what I'd hit to do it. My second question is, let's say I'm doing a slow country song, and at the very end, the last two or three bars need to be slower tempo, giving me a ending retard kind of effect. If you wonder what I'm talking about, listen, for instance to the end of Every Light in the House is on by Trace Adkins. That's a perfect! example! So, I know in the event, tempo operations window, how to go to constant, and set a constant BPM, but then, how do I have it do a retard for me? I'm almost done, just two more things. If I'm in say, 4/4 time, and all a sudden, at the start of a bar, I need to switch time signatures without moving the tempo, is there a way I can do that? Finally, If I've inserted midi tracks into my session, and have their output paths going to different xpand2 instrument tracks, is there then a way that I could save that arrangement as a .mid midi file? I know it won't save audio, and I know the samples in the xpand2 tracks wouldn't be saved as midi. I'm perfectly aware of that. I know the whole thing about midi isn't sound. I know it's just 1's and 0's, hince, why I'm routing their outputs to instrument tracks. I just wonder if I
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when typing in the pre-roll value. Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when you're done with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and get to a particular bar, I guarantee it'll confuse you when you hear the music from the previous bar and you'll swear that you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and you'll be hearing bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually are at bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first. I'll let someone else take the other questions. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these. First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part right before sounds flawless? I don't want to chance ruinning a perfectly good measure just to get the bar after it sounding good. That just seems a little over kill. Yeah, I know about the playlist option in the edit window on each track, and yes I know about comping. I confess I don't do it much, but I think I'm gonna start getting myself more in the habbit of it. If I want a pollished recording, then face it, sometimes you have to do the more dirty tedious work, but in the long run, it's well worth it. Anyway, so what I'd like to do is a punch in/out. This is just an example. It doesn't mean it's the song I'm working with, but it's one that I know must people know, so it'll make my point really well. Let's take the song Take it Easy by The Eagles. I, natrually am really not a tennor. I kind of, ish, can do it, but not real well. So let's take the chorus. Take it easy, take it easy! Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy. Lighten up while you still can. Let's say I'm in the key of G. This means on lighten up, when I hit that C chord, my
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when typing in the pre-roll value. Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when you're done with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and get to a particular bar, I guarantee it'll confuse you when you hear the music from the previous bar and you'll swear that you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and you'll be hearing bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually are at bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first. I'll let someone else take the other questions. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these. First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part right before sounds flawless? I don't want to chance ruinning a perfectly good measure just to get the bar after it sounding good. That just seems a little over kill. Yeah, I know about the playlist option in the edit window on each track, and yes I know about comping. I confess I don't do it much, but I think I'm gonna start getting myself more in the habbit of it. If I want a pollished recording, then face it, sometimes you have to do the more dirty tedious work, but in the long run, it's well worth it. Anyway, so what I'd like to do is a punch in/out. This is just an example. It doesn't mean it's
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when typing in the pre-roll value. Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when you're done with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and get to a particular bar, I guarantee it'll confuse you when you hear the music from the previous bar and you'll swear that you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and you'll be hearing bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually are at bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first. I'll let someone else take the other questions. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these. First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
After googling a bit: These words are familiar to folks working on sound or video editing. On a tape recorder in pause-recording mode, the pre-roll is the delay between the moment the pause button is released and the moment the recording actually starts. Similarly, the post-roll is the delay between the time the pause button is pushed and when it actually stops recording. At 11:49 PM 5/1/2014, you wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when typing in the pre-roll value. Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when you're done with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and get to a particular bar, I guarantee it'll confuse you when you hear the music from the previous bar and you'll swear that you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and you'll be hearing bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually are at bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first. I'll let someone else take the other questions. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these. First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part right before sounds flawless? I don't want to chance ruinning a perfectly good measure just to get the bar after it sounding good. That just seems a little over kill. Yeah, I know
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when typing in the pre-roll value. Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when you're done with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and get to a particular bar, I guarantee it'll confuse you when you hear the music from the previous bar and you'll swear that you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and you'll be hearing bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually are at bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first. I'll let someone else take the other questions. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when typing in the pre-roll value. Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when you're done with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and get to a particular bar, I guarantee it'll confuse you when you hear the music from the previous bar and you'll swear that you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and you'll be hearing bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually are at bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first. I'll let someone
Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Shruggs, That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions well, how long do you need to get ready to play? If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Slau, So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. 3. Record. It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. Slau On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that though. Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions Chris, Go to the Transport window. Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered. Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning them off with Command-k. Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when typing in the pre-roll value. Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre
