Fading

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, yesterday, I was training a client on the use of ProTools, and we 
discovered something kind of interesting that I'd like a little bit of 
clarification regarding.

Basically, one of the things he had to do in his ProTools college corse, was to 
take an mp3 file, import it into PT as an audio track, then move 3 minutes, and 
35 seconds into the recording.  That part was easy.  Then he had to trim off 
everything from that point of the recording to the end.  Again, that also was 
very very easy.  Here's however where things got interesting.  The next step, 
was for him to move back 20 seconds before the end of the recording.  That was 
also easily done.  Then however, he had to apply an equal power fade out from 
that point forward... so, basically, the last 20 seconds needed to be faded 
out.  He was instructed by his teacher to use command+F to get into the fade 
dialog.  Well, for him, he's using ProTools 11.  I'm still using 10.0.  I'm not 
even on 10.3, for reasons I'm not gonna bore you all with.  Although, hearing 
Voiceover on his end with 11, has got me really really tempted to purchase 11.  
Anyway, the point is, for him, he got into the fade dialog, set it and it 
worked perfectly!  He went the 20 seconds back, then did shift+option+return to 
select everything to the end of the session, then command+F, and then he set 
the radio button in there to equal, then hit vo+space on OK.  Then when he hit 
the space bar to play, it worked.  I tried this on my end, as I've always 
wonderred without writing automation if there was a way to achieve this.  
Though the dialog looks fairly accessible in PT 10, I'm finding that it's not 
doing the fade like it should be.  Yes, I have made absolutely sure that all 
tracks were selected in the track list table, and I made absolutely sure that I 
was not only lined up in the session where the fade should start, but that I 
had all the audio selected where the fade should occur.  Even still, when 
selecting equal power, it's not working.  Now, there are a few popup/combo 
boxes as well in this dialog.  Maybe 2 or 3 of them.  The options when I open 
them up do not seem to read.  I don't know if they're rellavent or not, but 
yeah...  Is this one thing that in P T 11 became accessible, which in 10.X we 
didn't really have good access to, or am I doing something wrong.

I'm just trying to determine why it worked for him, yet for me, it's not doing 
a thing.

Chris.

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Fading?

[Christopher Gilland]

First, I don't have a control surface; please don't shoot me with a gun.


I am trying to lay down some vocals over a karaoke track which I own. 
The short version of the story is, the karaoke track ends very abruptly, 
and very coldly. Trust me when I say, it sounds absolutely God Aweful!



What essentially I'd like to do is sing with the track out to the very 
end where it cuts off abruptly. The end of the song tags, and just keeps 
repeating over and over. So, this should be quite doable therefore.



Once that's done, I want to somehow select both tracks, which yes, I do 
know how to do in the track list table. That's easy!



Then I want to put my cursor/playhead, call it what you will, at the 
start of where I want the fade to begin.



Then, what I want is a natural lennier fade which isn't too 
fast/jarring, but just a natural fade, that will fade to the end of the 
session whereby once the session reaches the end, the fade will cause 
everything to be at silence.



This way, that abrupt ending will play, but by the time it does, you 
won't hear it as the fade will have caused it by then to be inaudible.



I just don't know after selecting my two tracks, and fast forwarding to 
where I want the fade to start, what then I need to do to make this as 
automatic as possible. I kind a remember there being a way to fade to 
end, but would that sound natural? I know it won't so as much as if I 
did it manually with a surface... Duh! I get that, but right now without 
one on hand, this is the best I can do.



I've got flotools, but it's acting really finnicky for some reason. Half 
the time it works, half the time it doesn't. But, that's for another 
post. Yeah, it's up to date, and so is ProTools. Go figure.



Chris.

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Re: Fading

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Chris,

There could be any number of reasons why it's not working for you. I couldn't 
even begin to really troubleshoot it. Suffice it to say, however, that the 
default fade-out, unless you changed it somewhere, is the equal power fade. So, 
you don't even have to open the fades dialog. Simply press Option-g for "fade 
to end" which will fade from your current insertion point to the end of the 
selected track's region. Give that a try and let's see if things are working 
alright.

Slau

On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

> OK, yesterday, I was training a client on the use of ProTools, and we 
> discovered something kind of interesting that I'd like a little bit of 
> clarification regarding.
>  
> Basically, one of the things he had to do in his ProTools college corse, was 
> to take an mp3 file, import it into PT as an audio track, then move 3 
> minutes, and 35 seconds into the recording.  That part was easy.  Then he had 
> to trim off everything from that point of the recording to the end.  Again, 
> that also was very very easy.  Here's however where things got interesting.  
> The next step, was for him to move back 20 seconds before the end of the 
> recording.  That was also easily done.  Then however, he had to apply an 
> equal power fade out from that point forward... so, basically, the last 20 
> seconds needed to be faded out.  He was instructed by his teacher to use 
> command+F to get into the fade dialog.  Well, for him, he's using ProTools 
> 11.  I'm still using 10.0.  I'm not even on 10.3, for reasons I'm not gonna 
> bore you all with.  Although, hearing Voiceover on his end with 11, has got 
> me really really tempted to purchase 11.  Anyway, the point is, for him, he 
> got into the fade dialog, set it and it worked perfectly!  He went the 20 
> seconds back, then did shift+option+return to select everything to the end of 
> the session, then command+F, and then he set the radio button in there to 
> equal, then hit vo+space on OK.  Then when he hit the space bar to play, it 
> worked.  I tried this on my end, as I've always wonderred without writing 
> automation if there was a way to achieve this.  Though the dialog looks 
> fairly accessible in PT 10, I'm finding that it's not doing the fade like it 
> should be.  Yes, I have made absolutely sure that all tracks were selected in 
> the track list table, and I made absolutely sure that I was not only lined up 
> in the session where the fade should start, but that I had all the audio 
> selected where the fade should occur.  Even still, when selecting equal 
> power, it's not working.  Now, there are a few popup/combo boxes as well in 
> this dialog.  Maybe 2 or 3 of them.  The options when I open them up do not 
> seem to read.  I don't know if they're rellavent or not, but yeah...  Is this 
> one thing that in P T 11 became accessible, which in 10.X we didn't really 
> have good access to, or am I doing something wrong.
>  
> I'm just trying to determine why it worked for him, yet for me, it's not 
> doing a thing.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Fading

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yes Slau,

That worked.  I have no idea then why the dialog didn't do it.  that's totally 
bizarre!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Fading


  Hi Chris,


  There could be any number of reasons why it's not working for you. I couldn't 
even begin to really troubleshoot it. Suffice it to say, however, that the 
default fade-out, unless you changed it somewhere, is the equal power fade. So, 
you don't even have to open the fades dialog. Simply press Option-g for "fade 
to end" which will fade from your current insertion point to the end of the 
selected track's region. Give that a try and let's see if things are working 
alright.


  Slau


  On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


OK, yesterday, I was training a client on the use of ProTools, and we 
discovered something kind of interesting that I'd like a little bit of 
clarification regarding.

Basically, one of the things he had to do in his ProTools college corse, 
was to take an mp3 file, import it into PT as an audio track, then move 3 
minutes, and 35 seconds into the recording.  That part was easy.  Then he had 
to trim off everything from that point of the recording to the end.  Again, 
that also was very very easy.  Here's however where things got interesting.  
The next step, was for him to move back 20 seconds before the end of the 
recording.  That was also easily done.  Then however, he had to apply an equal 
power fade out from that point forward... so, basically, the last 20 seconds 
needed to be faded out.  He was instructed by his teacher to use command+F to 
get into the fade dialog.  Well, for him, he's using ProTools 11.  I'm still 
using 10.0.  I'm not even on 10.3, for reasons I'm not gonna bore you all with. 
 Although, hearing Voiceover on his end with 11, has got me really really 
tempted to purchase 11.  Anyway, the point is, for him, he got into the fade 
dialog, set it and it worked perfectly!  He went the 20 seconds back, then did 
shift+option+return to select everything to the end of the session, then 
command+F, and then he set the radio button in there to equal, then hit 
vo+space on OK.  Then when he hit the space bar to play, it worked.  I tried 
this on my end, as I've always wonderred without writing automation if there 
was a way to achieve this.  Though the dialog looks fairly accessible in PT 10, 
I'm finding that it's not doing the fade like it should be.  Yes, I have made 
absolutely sure that all tracks were selected in the track list table, and I 
made absolutely sure that I was not only lined up in the session where the fade 
should start, but that I had all the audio selected where the fade should 
occur.  Even still, when selecting equal power, it's not working.  Now, there 
are a few popup/combo boxes as well in this dialog.  Maybe 2 or 3 of them.  The 
options when I open them up do not seem to read.  I don't know if they're 
rellavent or not, but yeah...  Is this one thing that in P T 11 became 
accessible, which in 10.X we didn't really have good access to, or am I doing 
something wrong.

I'm just trying to determine why it worked for him, yet for me, it's not 
doing a thing.

Chris.


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Re: Fading

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I was the student that was talked about in this message and I did a 
good job on the project.  I did not know about the shortcut in the fade 
dialog and my teacher did not know about it either from the looks of the 
document they sent me.  I will make a new pro tools session and try that 
out with the same track the version that was the normal CD audio version 
and see what happens.  I am running 10.3.8 and the latest version of 
11.  I will have to test fading out in pro tools 10.3.8 and see how 
things work out.  Nick Gawronski

On 4/15/2014 2:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Yes Slau,
That worked.  I have no idea then why the dialog didn't do it.  that's 
totally bizarre!

Chris.

- Original Message -
*From:* Slau Halatyn <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>
*To:* ptaccess@googlegroups.com <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:54 PM
    *Subject:* Re: Fading

Hi Chris,

There could be any number of reasons why it's not working for you.
I couldn't even begin to really troubleshoot it. Suffice it to
say, however, that the default fade-out, unless you changed it
somewhere, is the equal power fade. So, you don't even have to
open the fades dialog. Simply press Option-g for "fade to end"
which will fade from your current insertion point to the end of
the selected track's region. Give that a try and let's see if
things are working alright.

Slau

On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


OK, yesterday, I was training a client on the use of ProTools,
and we discovered something kind of interesting that I'd like a
little bit of clarification regarding.
Basically, one of the things he had to do in his ProTools college
corse, was to take an mp3 file, import it into PT as an audio
track, then move 3 minutes, and 35 seconds into the recording. 
That part was easy.  Then he had to trim off everything from that

point of the recording to the end.  Again, that also was very
very easy.  Here's however where things got interesting.  The
next step, was for him to move back 20 seconds before the end of
the recording. That was also easily done.  Then however, he had
to apply an equal power fade out from that point forward... so,
basically, the last 20 seconds needed to be faded out.  He was
instructed by his teacher to use command+F to get into the fade
dialog.  Well, for him, he's using ProTools 11.  I'm still using
10.0.  I'm not even on 10.3, for reasons I'm not gonna bore you
all with.  Although, hearing Voiceover on his end with 11, has
got me really really tempted to purchase 11.  Anyway, the point
is, for him, he got into the fade dialog, set it and it worked
perfectly!  He went the 20 seconds back, then did
shift+option+return to select everything to the end of the
session, then command+F, and then he set the radio button in
there to equal, then hit vo+space on OK.  Then when he hit the
space bar to play, it worked.  I tried this on my end, as I've
always wonderred without writing automation if there was a way to
achieve this.  Though the dialog looks fairly accessible in PT
10, I'm finding that it's not doing the fade like it should be. 
Yes, I have made absolutely sure that all tracks were selected in

the track list table, and I made absolutely sure that I was not
only lined up in the session where the fade should start, but
that I had all the audio selected where the fade should occur. 
Even still, when selecting equal power, it's not working.  Now,

there are a few popup/combo boxes as well in this dialog.  Maybe
2 or 3 of them.  The options when I open them up do not seem to
read.  I don't know if they're rellavent or not, but yeah...  Is
this one thing that in P T 11 became accessible, which in 10.X we
didn't really have good access to, or am I doing something wrong.
I'm just trying to determine why it worked for him, yet for me,
it's not doing a thing.
Chris.

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Re: Fading

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I didn't know about option+G either, but it definitely did do the trick.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Nick Gawronski 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Fading


  Hi, I was the student that was talked about in this message and I did a good 
job on the project.  I did not know about the shortcut in the fade dialog and 
my teacher did not know about it either from the looks of the document they 
sent me.  I will make a new pro tools session and try that out with the same 
track the version that was the normal CD audio version and see what happens.  I 
am running 10.3.8 and the latest version of 11.  I will have to test fading out 
in pro tools 10.3.8 and see how things work out.  Nick Gawronski

  On 4/15/2014 2:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Yes Slau,

That worked.  I have no idea then why the dialog didn't do it.  that's 
totally bizarre!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Fading


  Hi Chris, 


  There could be any number of reasons why it's not working for you. I 
couldn't even begin to really troubleshoot it. Suffice it to say, however, that 
the default fade-out, unless you changed it somewhere, is the equal power fade. 
So, you don't even have to open the fades dialog. Simply press Option-g for 
"fade to end" which will fade from your current insertion point to the end of 
the selected track's region. Give that a try and let's see if things are 
working alright.


  Slau


  On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


OK, yesterday, I was training a client on the use of ProTools, and we 
discovered something kind of interesting that I'd like a little bit of 
clarification regarding.

Basically, one of the things he had to do in his ProTools college 
corse, was to take an mp3 file, import it into PT as an audio track, then move 
3 minutes, and 35 seconds into the recording.  That part was easy.  Then he had 
to trim off everything from that point of the recording to the end.  Again, 
that also was very very easy.  Here's however where things got interesting.  
The next step, was for him to move back 20 seconds before the end of the 
recording.  That was also easily done.  Then however, he had to apply an equal 
power fade out from that point forward... so, basically, the last 20 seconds 
needed to be faded out.  He was instructed by his teacher to use command+F to 
get into the fade dialog.  Well, for him, he's using ProTools 11.  I'm still 
using 10.0.  I'm not even on 10.3, for reasons I'm not gonna bore you all with. 
 Although, hearing Voiceover on his end with 11, has got me really really 
tempted to purchase 11.  Anyway, the point is, for him, he got into the fade 
dialog, set it and it worked perfectly!  He went the 20 seconds back, then did 
shift+option+return to select everything to the end of the session, then 
command+F, and then he set the radio button in there to equal, then hit 
vo+space on OK.  Then when he hit the space bar to play, it worked.  I tried 
this on my end, as I've always wonderred without writing automation if there 
was a way to achieve this.  Though the dialog looks fairly accessible in PT 10, 
I'm finding that it's not doing the fade like it should be.  Yes, I have made 
absolutely sure that all tracks were selected in the track list table, and I 
made absolutely sure that I was not only lined up in the session where the fade 
should start, but that I had all the audio selected where the fade should 
occur.  Even still, when selecting equal power, it's not working.  Now, there 
are a few popup/combo boxes as well in this dialog.  Maybe 2 or 3 of them.  The 
options when I open them up do not seem to read.  I don't know if they're 
rellavent or not, but yeah...  Is this one thing that in P T 11 became 
accessible, which in 10.X we didn't really have good access to, or am I doing 
something wrong.

I'm just trying to determine why it worked for him, yet for me, it's 
not doing a thing.

Chris.


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Re: Fading

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I was the student that was talked about in this message and I 
did a good job on the project.  I did not know about the shortcut in the 
fade dialog and my teacher did not know about it either from the looks 
of the document they sent me.  I will make a new pro tools session and 
try that out with the same track the version that was the normal CD 
audio version and see what happens.  I am running 10.3.8 and the latest 
version of 11.  I will have to test fading out in pro tools 10.3.8 
and see how things work out.  Nick Gawronski

On 4/15/2014 2:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Yes Slau,
That worked.  I have no idea then why the dialog didn't do it.  that's 
totally bizarre!

Chris.

- Original Message -
*From:* Slau Halatyn <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>
*To:* ptaccess@googlegroups.com <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:54 PM
    *Subject:* Re: Fading

Hi Chris,

There could be any number of reasons why it's not working for you.
I couldn't even begin to really troubleshoot it. Suffice it to
say, however, that the default fade-out, unless you changed it
somewhere, is the equal power fade. So, you don't even have to
open the fades dialog. Simply press Option-g for "fade to end"
which will fade from your current insertion point to the end of
the selected track's region. Give that a try and let's see if
things are working alright.

Slau

On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


OK, yesterday, I was training a client on the use of ProTools,
and we discovered something kind of interesting that I'd like a
little bit of clarification regarding.
Basically, one of the things he had to do in his ProTools college
corse, was to take an mp3 file, import it into PT as an audio
track, then move 3 minutes, and 35 seconds into the recording. 
That part was easy.  Then he had to trim off everything from that

point of the recording to the end.  Again, that also was very
very easy.  Here's however where things got interesting.  The
next step, was for him to move back 20 seconds before the end of
the recording. That was also easily done.  Then however, he had
to apply an equal power fade out from that point forward... so,
basically, the last 20 seconds needed to be faded out.  He was
instructed by his teacher to use command+F to get into the fade
dialog.  Well, for him, he's using ProTools 11.  I'm still using
10.0.  I'm not even on 10.3, for reasons I'm not gonna bore you
all with.  Although, hearing Voiceover on his end with 11, has
got me really really tempted to purchase 11.  Anyway, the point
is, for him, he got into the fade dialog, set it and it worked
perfectly!  He went the 20 seconds back, then did
shift+option+return to select everything to the end of the
session, then command+F, and then he set the radio button in
there to equal, then hit vo+space on OK.  Then when he hit the
space bar to play, it worked.  I tried this on my end, as I've
always wonderred without writing automation if there was a way to
achieve this.  Though the dialog looks fairly accessible in PT
10, I'm finding that it's not doing the fade like it should be. 
Yes, I have made absolutely sure that all tracks were selected in

the track list table, and I made absolutely sure that I was not
only lined up in the session where the fade should start, but
that I had all the audio selected where the fade should occur. 
Even still, when selecting equal power, it's not working.  Now,

there are a few popup/combo boxes as well in this dialog.  Maybe
2 or 3 of them.  The options when I open them up do not seem to
read.  I don't know if they're rellavent or not, but yeah...  Is
this one thing that in P T 11 became accessible, which in 10.X we
didn't really have good access to, or am I doing something wrong.
I'm just trying to determine why it worked for him, yet for me,
it's not doing a thing.
Chris.

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Re: Fading

[Poppa Bear]

Hey Nick, was your school satisfied with your work on that song?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nick Gawronski 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Fading


  Hi, I was the student that was talked about in this message and I did a 
good job on the project.  I did not know about the shortcut in the fade dialog 
and my teacher did not know about it either from the looks of the document they 
sent me.  I will make a new pro tools session and try that out with the same 
track the version that was the normal CD audio version and see what happens.  I 
am running 10.3.8 and the latest version of 11.  I will have to test fading 
out in pro tools 10.3.8 and see how things work out.  Nick Gawronski

  On 4/15/2014 2:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Yes Slau,

That worked.  I have no idea then why the dialog didn't do it.  that's 
totally bizarre!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Fading


  Hi Chris, 


  There could be any number of reasons why it's not working for you. I 
couldn't even begin to really troubleshoot it. Suffice it to say, however, that 
the default fade-out, unless you changed it somewhere, is the equal power fade. 
So, you don't even have to open the fades dialog. Simply press Option-g for 
"fade to end" which will fade from your current insertion point to the end of 
the selected track's region. Give that a try and let's see if things are 
working alright.


  Slau


  On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


OK, yesterday, I was training a client on the use of ProTools, and we 
discovered something kind of interesting that I'd like a little bit of 
clarification regarding.

Basically, one of the things he had to do in his ProTools college 
corse, was to take an mp3 file, import it into PT as an audio track, then move 
3 minutes, and 35 seconds into the recording.  That part was easy.  Then he had 
to trim off everything from that point of the recording to the end.  Again, 
that also was very very easy.  Here's however where things got interesting.  
The next step, was for him to move back 20 seconds before the end of the 
recording.  That was also easily done.  Then however, he had to apply an equal 
power fade out from that point forward... so, basically, the last 20 seconds 
needed to be faded out.  He was instructed by his teacher to use command+F to 
get into the fade dialog.  Well, for him, he's using ProTools 11.  I'm still 
using 10.0.  I'm not even on 10.3, for reasons I'm not gonna bore you all with. 
 Although, hearing Voiceover on his end with 11, has got me really really 
tempted to purchase 11.  Anyway, the point is, for him, he got into the fade 
dialog, set it and it worked perfectly!  He went the 20 seconds back, then did 
shift+option+return to select everything to the end of the session, then 
command+F, and then he set the radio button in there to equal, then hit 
vo+space on OK.  Then when he hit the space bar to play, it worked.  I tried 
this on my end, as I've always wonderred without writing automation if there 
was a way to achieve this.  Though the dialog looks fairly accessible in PT 10, 
I'm finding that it's not doing the fade like it should be.  Yes, I have made 
absolutely sure that all tracks were selected in the track list table, and I 
made absolutely sure that I was not only lined up in the session where the fade 
should start, but that I had all the audio selected where the fade should 
occur.  Even still, when selecting equal power, it's not working.  Now, there 
are a few popup/combo boxes as well in this dialog.  Maybe 2 or 3 of them.  The 
options when I open them up do not seem to read.  I don't know if they're 
rellavent or not, but yeah...  Is this one thing that in P T 11 became 
accessible, which in 10.X we didn't really have good access to, or am I doing 
something wrong.

I'm just trying to determine why it worked for him, yet for me, it's 
not doing a thing.

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fading regions

[Steve Sparrow]

Hey guys, since updating to p t 12 i can’t seem to fade to the start or end of 
regions with option d or option g. I’m pretty sure i’ve got the correct 
commands. If so is there a new command for doing this.
Steve

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Re: Fading?

[Michael Holmes]

Make sure the end of your tracks are continuous and not separated anywhere 
between where you wish to start the fade and the end. Consolidate clips if 
needed. Then, select the tracks with Shift Command P or semicolon. Move your 
insertion to the start of the intended fade, then Control G to create it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Jan 2019, at 21:41, Christopher Gilland  wrote:
> 
> First, I don't have a control surface; please don't shoot me with a gun.
> 
> 
> I am trying to lay down some vocals over a karaoke track which I own. The 
> short version of the story is, the karaoke track ends very abruptly, and very 
> coldly. Trust me when I say, it sounds absolutely God Aweful!
> 
> 
> What essentially I'd like to do is sing with the track out to the very end 
> where it cuts off abruptly. The end of the song tags, and just keeps 
> repeating over and over. So, this should be quite doable therefore.
> 
> 
> Once that's done, I want to somehow select both tracks, which yes, I do know 
> how to do in the track list table. That's easy!
> 
> 
> Then I want to put my cursor/playhead, call it what you will, at the start of 
> where I want the fade to begin.
> 
> 
> Then, what I want is a natural lennier fade which isn't too fast/jarring, but 
> just a natural fade, that will fade to the end of the session whereby once 
> the session reaches the end, the fade will cause everything to be at silence.
> 
> 
> This way, that abrupt ending will play, but by the time it does, you won't 
> hear it as the fade will have caused it by then to be inaudible.
> 
> 
> I just don't know after selecting my two tracks, and fast forwarding to where 
> I want the fade to start, what then I need to do to make this as automatic as 
> possible. I kind a remember there being a way to fade to end, but would that 
> sound natural? I know it won't so as much as if I did it manually with a 
> surface... Duh! I get that, but right now without one on hand, this is the 
> best I can do.
> 
> 
> I've got flotools, but it's acting really finnicky for some reason. Half the 
> time it works, half the time it doesn't. But, that's for another post. Yeah, 
> it's up to date, and so is ProTools. Go figure.
> 
> 
> Chris.
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Fading out audio

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, I think I may actually know what step in this I missed, but let me tell you 
all what I'm trying to do, and how I'm doing it.  I'm obviously doing something 
wrong, as it's not seeming to work.

Basically, here's the deal.  I've got a session with 3 backing oos vocal 
tracks.  At the very end of the song when I hit the last final chord to end the 
song, those oos come in to complement the final chord.  Just to give it a 
little warmth, and a little bit of feeling/depth/color.  The problem is, I 
comffed those vocals from a previous location in the song, as they're 
identically the same.  I figured, why redo them, if I could just copy/paste.  
So, I got them pasted, and they're smack dead perfect! on the time ruler where 
I need them.  The only problem is, with the way things worked, they kind of cut 
off coldly.  There's no long decay.  For this reason, it sounds dreadfully 
horrible and very unnatural when they break off.

So, what I'm trhying to therefore do is select those oos that I pasted there on 
that last chord, and basically have them very linniarly fade out.  No, Slau, I 
don't have a control surface.  I know, I know, I know, I know.  Don't shoot me 
dead!  LOL!

Anyway, so what I did was, in my track list table, I selected all 3 of the 
backing tracks with VO+Space to toggle them all on as selected.

In my edit window, I made sure that the selecter tool was activated, which it 
definitely is.

Being that these oos come in over the last 2 bars of the song, I pressed 
option+Return to go to the end of the session.  I then used numpad 1 two times 
to back up 2 bars.  When I hit space bar then to play, it's perfect!  That's 
dead smack on the beginning of the oos.  I then hit option+Shift+return to 
select from there to the end of the session.

Now, I'm pressing command+F for fade.  This is where I'm now getting stuck.  
I've played with all the different shapes, although there are quite a few shape 
clusters in here, so maybe I'm doing it with the wrong one, but I hit the 
toggle preset button, and then definitely see the librarian menu, and all the 
other parameters.  NO matter which shape though I pick for the fade, it's not 
working.

Basically, I'm just trying to get those oos to fade down without it fading down 
any of my other tracks in the session.  This way, even though they cut off 
coldly, by the time they do, they'll be either totally faded out, or will be so 
close to out, that it'll not really matter, and will sound a little more 
natural.

Yeah, I could probably just not comph those final oos, and just sing them 
manually, so that they're more natural, but I figure why, if I already have a 
perfect cut of 'em?

If I had to guess, if you tried challenging me saying, Chris, you tell me, what 
do you! think you did wrong, what I'd guess is, do I need to first go to the 
beginning of those oos, and do a command+E to split them off into their own 
clip, then select that clip with the shift+Tab, then? fade?

If not, then help me out, as I'm clueless.  LOL!

Sorry if I said already, but this is PT12.3.

Chris.

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Re: fading regions

[Slau Halatyn]

Use Control instead and make sure the Edit window is open.
Slau

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys, since updating to p t 12 i can’t seem to fade to the start or end 
> of regions with option d or option g. I’m pretty sure i’ve got the correct 
> commands. If so is there a new command for doing this.
> Steve
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Re: fading regions

[Steve Sparrow]

beautiful thanks Slau.thought i tried that but obviously not, as it works fine 
now. 
Thanks again.
Steve

> On 15 Dec 2016, at 9:45 AM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Use Control instead and make sure the Edit window is open.
> Slau
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys, since updating to p t 12 i can’t seem to fade to the start or end 
>> of regions with option d or option g. I’m pretty sure i’ve got the correct 
>> commands. If so is there a new command for doing this.
>> Steve
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Re: fading regions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'd look this up, but I am not near my studio machine with the 
documentation, so forgive me for asking instead.


What are the commands for prev region, next region, and select current 
region. I know they involve the tab key, but I always always get these damn 
things confused.


Chris.

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From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: fading regions


Use Control instead and make sure the Edit window is open.
Slau

On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Steve Sparrow  
wrote:


Hey guys, since updating to p t 12 i can’t seem to fade to the start or 
end of regions with option d or option g. I’m pretty sure i’ve got the 
correct commands. If so is there a new command for doing this.

Steve

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Re: fading regions

[Slau Halatyn]

Tab moves the insertion point to the next clip boundary. Option+Tab moves the 
insertion point to the previous clip boundary. Add Shift to make selections.
Slau

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I'd look this up, but I am not near my studio machine with the documentation, 
> so forgive me for asking instead.
> 
> What are the commands for prev region, next region, and select current 
> region. I know they involve the tab key, but I always always get these damn 
> things confused.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: fading regions
> 
> 
> Use Control instead and make sure the Edit window is open.
> Slau
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys, since updating to p t 12 i can’t seem to fade to the start or end 
>> of regions with option d or option g. I’m pretty sure i’ve got the correct 
>> commands. If so is there a new command for doing this.
>> Steve
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Re: fading regions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Thank you. What if you don't wanna move to another boundery, but are within 
the points of a current region, and just want to select the current boundery 
that your cursor is within.


Chris.

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From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: fading regions


Tab moves the insertion point to the next clip boundary. Option+Tab moves 
the insertion point to the previous clip boundary. Add Shift to make 
selections.

Slau

On Dec 14, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


I'd look this up, but I am not near my studio machine with the 
documentation, so forgive me for asking instead.


What are the commands for prev region, next region, and select current 
region. I know they involve the tab key, but I always always get these 
damn things confused.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: fading regions


Use Control instead and make sure the Edit window is open.
Slau

On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Steve Sparrow  
wrote:


Hey guys, since updating to p t 12 i can’t seem to fade to the start or 
end of regions with option d or option g. I’m pretty sure i’ve got the 
correct commands. If so is there a new command for doing this.

Steve

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Re: fading regions

[Slau Halatyn]

Selections of clips need to be done from one boundary to another so the 
insertion is moved either forward or backward and then the Shift modifier added 
to accomplish the selection.
Slau

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 12:39 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you. What if you don't wanna move to another boundery, but are within 
> the points of a current region, and just want to select the current boundery 
> that your cursor is within.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 12:17 AM
> Subject: Re: fading regions
> 
> 
> Tab moves the insertion point to the next clip boundary. Option+Tab moves the 
> insertion point to the previous clip boundary. Add Shift to make selections.
> Slau
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd look this up, but I am not near my studio machine with the 
>> documentation, so forgive me for asking instead.
>> 
>> What are the commands for prev region, next region, and select current 
>> region. I know they involve the tab key, but I always always get these damn 
>> things confused.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 6:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: fading regions
>> 
>> 
>> Use Control instead and make sure the Edit window is open.
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys, since updating to p t 12 i can’t seem to fade to the start or end 
>>> of regions with option d or option g. I’m pretty sure i’ve got the correct 
>>> commands. If so is there a new command for doing this.
>>> Steve
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Re: fading regions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK. Thanks for the help.

Chris.

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From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: fading regions


Selections of clips need to be done from one boundary to another so the 
insertion is moved either forward or backward and then the Shift modifier 
added to accomplish the selection.

Slau

On Dec 15, 2016, at 12:39 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Thank you. What if you don't wanna move to another boundery, but are 
within the points of a current region, and just want to select the current 
boundery that your cursor is within.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: fading regions


Tab moves the insertion point to the next clip boundary. Option+Tab moves 
the insertion point to the previous clip boundary. Add Shift to make 
selections.

Slau

On Dec 14, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


I'd look this up, but I am not near my studio machine with the 
documentation, so forgive me for asking instead.


What are the commands for prev region, next region, and select current 
region. I know they involve the tab key, but I always always get these 
damn things confused.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: fading regions


Use Control instead and make sure the Edit window is open.
Slau

On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Steve Sparrow  
wrote:


Hey guys, since updating to p t 12 i can’t seem to fade to the start or 
end of regions with option d or option g. I’m pretty sure i’ve got the 
correct commands. If so is there a new command for doing this.

Steve

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Re: Fading out audio

[Slau Halatyn]

Chris,

You need to select from anywhere other than the very beginning of the region. 
Start some fraction of a second into the clip and then you have two choices: 
either use Option-g to do a linear fade to the next region boundary or select 
to the end of the clip and bring up the fades dialog with Command-f. In the 
fades dialog, press Control-left arrow several times then press Control-right 
arrow twice. You'll be on a fade out preset that should work for you.

The only reason why this wouldn't work in this case is if you have pasted the 
vocals on top of other files that overlap the clips you pasted. In other words, 
if you pasted something over which there is an underlying clip extending beyond 
the boundary of the pasted clip, you'll be in a situation where the normal fade 
dialog won't work the way you need it to work. Instead, Pro Tools will assume 
you want to do crossfades. Anyway, this could potentially be a much bigger 
subject if that's the case. Hopefully, what I mentioned at the outset will 
suffice.

Slau

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wrote:

> OK, I think I may actually know what step in this I missed, but let me tell 
> you all what I'm trying to do, and how I'm doing it.  I'm obviously doing 
> something wrong, as it's not seeming to work.
>  
> Basically, here's the deal.  I've got a session with 3 backing oos vocal 
> tracks.  At the very end of the song when I hit the last final chord to end 
> the song, those oos come in to complement the final chord.  Just to give it a 
> little warmth, and a little bit of feeling/depth/color.  The problem is, I 
> comffed those vocals from a previous location in the song, as they're 
> identically the same.  I figured, why redo them, if I could just copy/paste.  
> So, I got them pasted, and they're smack dead perfect! on the time ruler 
> where I need them.  The only problem is, with the way things worked, they 
> kind of cut off coldly.  There's no long decay.  For this reason, it sounds 
> dreadfully horrible and very unnatural when they break off.
>  
> So, what I'm trhying to therefore do is select those oos that I pasted there 
> on that last chord, and basically have them very linniarly fade out.  No, 
> Slau, I don't have a control surface.  I know, I know, I know, I know.  Don't 
> shoot me dead!  LOL!
>  
> Anyway, so what I did was, in my track list table, I selected all 3 of the 
> backing tracks with VO+Space to toggle them all on as selected.
>  
> In my edit window, I made sure that the selecter tool was activated, which it 
> definitely is.
>  
> Being that these oos come in over the last 2 bars of the song, I pressed 
> option+Return to go to the end of the session.  I then used numpad 1 two 
> times to back up 2 bars.  When I hit space bar then to play, it's perfect!  
> That's dead smack on the beginning of the oos.  I then hit 
> option+Shift+return to select from there to the end of the session.
>  
> Now, I'm pressing command+F for fade.  This is where I'm now getting stuck.  
> I've played with all the different shapes, although there are quite a few 
> shape clusters in here, so maybe I'm doing it with the wrong one, but I hit 
> the toggle preset button, and then definitely see the librarian menu, and all 
> the other parameters.  NO matter which shape though I pick for the fade, it's 
> not working.
>  
> Basically, I'm just trying to get those oos to fade down without it fading 
> down any of my other tracks in the session.  This way, even though they cut 
> off coldly, by the time they do, they'll be either totally faded out, or will 
> be so close to out, that it'll not really matter, and will sound a little 
> more natural.
>  
> Yeah, I could probably just not comph those final oos, and just sing them 
> manually, so that they're more natural, but I figure why, if I already have a 
> perfect cut of 'em?
>  
> If I had to guess, if you tried challenging me saying, Chris, you tell me, 
> what do you! think you did wrong, what I'd guess is, do I need to first go to 
> the beginning of those oos, and do a command+E to split them off into their 
> own clip, then select that clip with the shift+Tab, then? fade?
>  
> If not, then help me out, as I'm clueless.  LOL!
>  
> Sorry if I said already, but this is PT12.3.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Fading out audio

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Thanks.

I will definitely give that a try.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 1:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Fading out audio


  Chris,


  You need to select from anywhere other than the very beginning of the region. 
Start some fraction of a second into the clip and then you have two choices: 
either use Option-g to do a linear fade to the next region boundary or select 
to the end of the clip and bring up the fades dialog with Command-f. In the 
fades dialog, press Control-left arrow several times then press Control-right 
arrow twice. You'll be on a fade out preset that should work for you.


  The only reason why this wouldn't work in this case is if you have pasted the 
vocals on top of other files that overlap the clips you pasted. In other words, 
if you pasted something over which there is an underlying clip extending beyond 
the boundary of the pasted clip, you'll be in a situation where the normal fade 
dialog won't work the way you need it to work. Instead, Pro Tools will assume 
you want to do crossfades. Anyway, this could potentially be a much bigger 
subject if that's the case. Hopefully, what I mentioned at the outset will 
suffice.


  Slau


  On Nov 25, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


OK, I think I may actually know what step in this I missed, but let me tell 
you all what I'm trying to do, and how I'm doing it.  I'm obviously doing 
something wrong, as it's not seeming to work.

Basically, here's the deal.  I've got a session with 3 backing oos vocal 
tracks.  At the very end of the song when I hit the last final chord to end the 
song, those oos come in to complement the final chord.  Just to give it a 
little warmth, and a little bit of feeling/depth/color.  The problem is, I 
comffed those vocals from a previous location in the song, as they're 
identically the same.  I figured, why redo them, if I could just copy/paste.  
So, I got them pasted, and they're smack dead perfect! on the time ruler where 
I need them.  The only problem is, with the way things worked, they kind of cut 
off coldly.  There's no long decay.  For this reason, it sounds dreadfully 
horrible and very unnatural when they break off.

So, what I'm trhying to therefore do is select those oos that I pasted 
there on that last chord, and basically have them very linniarly fade out.  No, 
Slau, I don't have a control surface.  I know, I know, I know, I know.  Don't 
shoot me dead!  LOL!

Anyway, so what I did was, in my track list table, I selected all 3 of the 
backing tracks with VO+Space to toggle them all on as selected.

In my edit window, I made sure that the selecter tool was activated, which 
it definitely is.

Being that these oos come in over the last 2 bars of the song, I pressed 
option+Return to go to the end of the session.  I then used numpad 1 two times 
to back up 2 bars.  When I hit space bar then to play, it's perfect!  That's 
dead smack on the beginning of the oos.  I then hit option+Shift+return to 
select from there to the end of the session.

Now, I'm pressing command+F for fade.  This is where I'm now getting stuck. 
 I've played with all the different shapes, although there are quite a few 
shape clusters in here, so maybe I'm doing it with the wrong one, but I hit the 
toggle preset button, and then definitely see the librarian menu, and all the 
other parameters.  NO matter which shape though I pick for the fade, it's not 
working.

Basically, I'm just trying to get those oos to fade down without it fading 
down any of my other tracks in the session.  This way, even though they cut off 
coldly, by the time they do, they'll be either totally faded out, or will be so 
close to out, that it'll not really matter, and will sound a little more 
natural.

Yeah, I could probably just not comph those final oos, and just sing them 
manually, so that they're more natural, but I figure why, if I already have a 
perfect cut of 'em?

If I had to guess, if you tried challenging me saying, Chris, you tell me, 
what do you! think you did wrong, what I'd guess is, do I need to first go to 
the beginning of those oos, and do a command+E to split them off into their own 
clip, then select that clip with the shift+Tab, then? fade?

If not, then help me out, as I'm clueless.  LOL!

Sorry if I said already, but this is PT12.3.

Chris.


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Fading out a song

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end fade 
markers and press CMD-F.
i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
all i did is that:
i made my selection.
i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
happened. no dialogues. etc.

any help?

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Having problems with fading

[Dammie Onafeko]

Hi guys:
A great afternoon to you all. I'm trying to fade in and out, but each
time I make my selection and do Control D or G, nothing seems to
happen. Am I doing something wrong or what's the matter? I'll greatly
appreciate your assistance in figuring out what the matter is and
making headway in doing these fades when I want. Thanks!

Best,

Dammie

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Re: Fading out a song

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Ramy,
The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to a 
master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
HTH,
Slau

> On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
> I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end fade 
> markers and press CMD-F.
> i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
> all i did is that:
> i made my selection.
> i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
> happened. no dialogues. etc.
> 
> any help?
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Re: Fading out a song

[Ramy Moustafa]

SO u mean that i must fade all my wave tracks to the end?

> On May 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to a 
> master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
> HTH,
> Slau
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
>> I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end fade 
>> markers and press CMD-F.
>> i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
>> all i did is that:
>> i made my selection.
>> i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
>> happened. no dialogues. etc.
>> 
>> any help?
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Re: Fading out a song

[Ramy Moustafa]

And sorry again, i’m trying now to select all my audio tracks,
when i hit CMd-f, i got the fade out dialogue,  i selected the fade out shpae, 
interact with it, choose the fade presets, and choose another thing that  of 
cores the voice over will not say something. is there an easier way of choosing 
the fade curve?


> On May 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to a 
> master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
> HTH,
> Slau
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
>> I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end fade 
>> markers and press CMD-F.
>> i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
>> all i did is that:
>> i made my selection.
>> i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
>> happened. no dialogues. etc.
>> 
>> any help?
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Re: Fading out a song

[John André Lium-Netland]

Hi,

You might use automation on the master fader to create a fade before you bounce 
the mix to disk, or you might bounce the mix to disk and select the checkbox in 
that dialog that import the mix to a new audio track in Pro Tools. Then you 
both have a mix without a fade saved on your drive, and a stereo audio track in 
Pro Tools where you can create a fade.
   
On 29 May 2018, at 18:14, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

SO u mean that i must fade all my wave tracks to the end?

> On May 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to a 
> master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
> HTH,
> Slau
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
>> I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end fade 
>> markers and press CMD-F.
>> i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
>> all i did is that:
>> i made my selection.
>> i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
>> happened. no dialogues. etc.
>> 
>> any help?
>> 
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Re: Fading out a song

[Slau Halatyn]

It's standard practice to create a mix of a song and handle any fade out on the 
mixed file, either by importing it into the same session and soloing it or into 
a mastering session . Otherwise, you can automate a master fader.

> On May 29, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> And sorry again, i’m trying now to select all my audio tracks,
> when i hit CMd-f, i got the fade out dialogue,  i selected the fade out 
> shpae, interact with it, choose the fade presets, and choose another thing 
> that  of cores the voice over will not say something. is there an easier way 
> of choosing the fade curve?
> 
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ramy,
>> The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to a 
>> master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
>> HTH,
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
>>> I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end fade 
>>> markers and press CMD-F.
>>> i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
>>> all i did is that:
>>> i made my selection.
>>> i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
>>> happened. no dialogues. etc.
>>> 
>>> any help?
>>> 
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Re: Fading out a song

[Ramy Moustafa]

This is very great idea
but just for my information, will i leave the effects on the master track 
available? or i must by-pass them when using my mastered fade track?


> On May 29, 2018, at 6:34 PM, John André Lium-Netland  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You might use automation on the master fader to create a fade before you 
> bounce the mix to disk, or you might bounce the mix to disk and select the 
> checkbox in that dialog that import the mix to a new audio track in Pro 
> Tools. Then you both have a mix without a fade saved on your drive, and a 
> stereo audio track in Pro Tools where you can create a fade.
> 
> On 29 May 2018, at 18:14, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> SO u mean that i must fade all my wave tracks to the end?
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ramy,
>> The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to a 
>> master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
>> HTH,
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
>>> I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end fade 
>>> markers and press CMD-F.
>>> i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
>>> all i did is that:
>>> i made my selection.
>>> i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
>>> happened. no dialogues. etc.
>>> 
>>> any help?
>>> 
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Re: Fading out a song

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi Slau:
I did the 2nd solution.
but my question here is that, how ican select the legnier fade that it was 
selected before?
i changed the fade out type.
how can i select the original 1?

> On May 29, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> It's standard practice to create a mix of a song and handle any fade out on 
> the mixed file, either by importing it into the same session and soloing it 
> or into a mastering session . Otherwise, you can automate a master fader.
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And sorry again, i’m trying now to select all my audio tracks,
>> when i hit CMd-f, i got the fade out dialogue,  i selected the fade out 
>> shpae, interact with it, choose the fade presets, and choose another thing 
>> that  of cores the voice over will not say something. is there an easier way 
>> of choosing the fade curve?
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ramy,
>>> The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to a 
>>> master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
>>> HTH,
>>> Slau
>>> 
 On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
 wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
 I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end 
 fade markers and press CMD-F.
 i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
 all i did is that:
 i made my selection.
 i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
 happened. no dialogues. etc.
 
 any help?
 
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Re: Fading out a song

[Steve Sparrow]

All i do is to select automation on the master fader. I use a control surface, 
so all I need do is grab the master fader and fade it down at what ever speed i 
like. If you don’t like it, go back to before the fade started, and do it over 
until you get it right. Then it’s done. If you want the song with and without 
fades to ponder over later, you could save the song before you do the fade, 
then save it again under a new name.and do your fade.
Steve
 

> On 30 May 2018, at 2:34 am, John André Lium-Netland  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You might use automation on the master fader to create a fade before you 
> bounce the mix to disk, or you might bounce the mix to disk and select the 
> checkbox in that dialog that import the mix to a new audio track in Pro 
> Tools. Then you both have a mix without a fade saved on your drive, and a 
> stereo audio track in Pro Tools where you can create a fade.
> 
> On 29 May 2018, at 18:14, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> SO u mean that i must fade all my wave tracks to the end?
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ramy,
>> The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to a 
>> master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
>> HTH,
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
>>> I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end fade 
>>> markers and press CMD-F.
>>> i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
>>> all i did is that:
>>> i made my selection.
>>> i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
>>> happened. no dialogues. etc.
>>> 
>>> any help?
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Re: Fading out a song

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Ramy,
The fade shapes only apply to clip-based fades. with Masters, aux inputs, 
tracks, etc., automation has no fixed shape, you do it either with Voiceover or 
with a control surface as Steve pointed out. Otherwise, as previously stated, 
you bounce the mix and apply a fade to the clip and then you'd have the fade 
curves to choose from.
HTH,
Slau
> On May 30, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi Slau:
> I did the 2nd solution.
> but my question here is that, how ican select the legnier fade that it was 
> selected before?
> i changed the fade out type.
> how can i select the original 1?
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> It's standard practice to create a mix of a song and handle any fade out on 
>> the mixed file, either by importing it into the same session and soloing it 
>> or into a mastering session . Otherwise, you can automate a master fader.
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And sorry again, i’m trying now to select all my audio tracks,
>>> when i hit CMd-f, i got the fade out dialogue,  i selected the fade out 
>>> shpae, interact with it, choose the fade presets, and choose another thing 
>>> that  of cores the voice over will not say something. is there an easier 
>>> way of choosing the fade curve?
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
 
 Hi Ramy,
 The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to a 
 master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
 HTH,
 Slau
 
> On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
> I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end 
> fade markers and press CMD-F.
> i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
> all i did is that:
> i made my selection.
> i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
> happened. no dialogues. etc.
> 
> any help?
> 
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Re: Fading out a song

[Ramy Moustafa]

Thanks so much for that.
much appreciated.


> On May 30, 2018, at 7:09 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> The fade shapes only apply to clip-based fades. with Masters, aux inputs, 
> tracks, etc., automation has no fixed shape, you do it either with Voiceover 
> or with a control surface as Steve pointed out. Otherwise, as previously 
> stated, you bounce the mix and apply a fade to the clip and then you'd have 
> the fade curves to choose from.
> HTH,
> Slau
>> On May 30, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Slau:
>> I did the 2nd solution.
>> but my question here is that, how ican select the legnier fade that it was 
>> selected before?
>> i changed the fade out type.
>> how can i select the original 1?
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's standard practice to create a mix of a song and handle any fade out on 
>>> the mixed file, either by importing it into the same session and soloing it 
>>> or into a mastering session . Otherwise, you can automate a master fader.
>>> 
 On May 29, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
 wrote:
 
 And sorry again, i’m trying now to select all my audio tracks,
 when i hit CMd-f, i got the fade out dialogue,  i selected the fade out 
 shpae, interact with it, choose the fade presets, and choose another thing 
 that  of cores the voice over will not say something. is there an easier 
 way of choosing the fade curve?
 
 
> On May 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> The fade dialog only works on waveforms so that process doesn't apply to 
> a master track. The only way to fade a master track is to use automation.
> HTH,
> Slau
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> the is the first time for me to make a fade out song on protools.
>> I have the Protools with speech saying that just put the start and end 
>> fade markers and press CMD-F.
>> i selected my master track, and i di dthat but with no luck.
>> all i did is that:
>> i made my selection.
>> i selected my master track. but when i press Control G or CMD-F, nothing 
>> happened. no dialogues. etc.
>> 
>> any help?
>> 
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Re: Having problems with fading

[Slau Halatyn]

1. Make sure you're in the Edit window.
2. Get the insertion cursor to where you want the fade to start.
3. Control D to fade to start or Control G to fade to end.
HTH,
Slau


> On Jun 1, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Dammie Onafeko  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys:
> A great afternoon to you all. I'm trying to fade in and out, but each
> time I make my selection and do Control D or G, nothing seems to
> happen. Am I doing something wrong or what's the matter? I'll greatly
> appreciate your assistance in figuring out what the matter is and
> making headway in doing these fades when I want. Thanks!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Dammie
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Re: Having problems with fading

[Dammie Onafeko]

Thanks Slau! I will go now and do it over, making sure I'm in the Edit
window. God bless! Have a wonderful rest of the weekend!

Best,

Dammie

On 6/1/19, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 1. Make sure you're in the Edit window.
> 2. Get the insertion cursor to where you want the fade to start.
> 3. Control D to fade to start or Control G to fade to end.
> HTH,
> Slau
>
>
>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Dammie Onafeko 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys:
>> A great afternoon to you all. I'm trying to fade in and out, but each
>> time I make my selection and do Control D or G, nothing seems to
>> happen. Am I doing something wrong or what's the matter? I'll greatly
>> appreciate your assistance in figuring out what the matter is and
>> making headway in doing these fades when I want. Thanks!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Dammie
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