Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-26 Thread Chi Kim

Hi Slau,

Just for update, Clip indicators was already set to hold for infinite, and VO 
still doesn't announces when the meter is clipped.
Anything else I should check?
Thanks for your help,

Chi

On 3/22/2015 3:17 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Chi,

Yep, the Click plug-in's parameters don't work well right now. That's certainly 
on the list of things to tackle. Incidentally, the parameters are accessible 
with a control surface. So, for example, to access triplets and accent values, 
etc., the encoder knobs or faders in flip mode will control those parameters 
and it's possible to save those settings as presets for future use.

The clip indicators are working fine. Make sure you have your preferences set 
to hold clip indicators and you should be good to go.

The subject of preset browsing in the plug-in window is clearly a much larger 
issue and, regardless of its accessibility, I'm not sure that it's going to 
necessarily change any time soon. Surely, it's much more of an issue for 
virtual instruments and one size doesn't fit all so I wouldn't expect Avid to 
come up with any solution that'll be right for every developer. Plug-in 
accessibility, in general, is an important issue and its model might have to 
change entirely for it to be viable for the long term. We'll all keep trying 
until we get it right.

Slau

On Mar 22, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:


Hi Slau,

The new click plugin included in pt 11 is not accessible.
Also, getting access to warp markers would be good.
I believe clip indicator is not accessible with Voiceover anymore. When the 
meter clips, Voiceover used to say clipped until you clear it, but it doesn't 
say it anymore.
Lastly, I know you specifically said no new future request, but it'd be worth 
while to briefly mention about creating a flexible database system that manages 
all the presets for all the plugin with tagging system something like Native 
Instrument Komplete. Komplete consists of many plugins with many presets (total 
17,000), but you can browse all of them in one browser and load them easily. 
This would save a lot of time for any composers/producers to find right sound 
without going through many different plugins with many different presets.
The current preset system for Pro Tools is so old style and not that flexible, 
so many developers don't even bother and create their own instead.
I'm sure this would require a lot of thought process to make it useful for 
users, and easier for plugin developers to implement. However, if Avid pulls it 
off well and markets it as a cool new feature, it would benefit everyone 
regardless sighted or blind once the developers start taking advantage of it.
Thanks for working with Avid on this important work.

Chi

On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a 
programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. 
For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is 
simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues 
that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list 
is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity 
and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a 
different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish 
to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, 
quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up 
issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your 
top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the 
biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

Thanks,

Slau


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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-26 Thread Chi Kim

HI Slau, thanks for the help.
Yes I'm aware of the fact that the Voiceover reads the radio buttons in 
such ways for that particular settings.

Peak on the left and and Clip indicator on the right
Then the related radio buttons below the labels.
I went to clip indicator label first then went down to make sure 
infinite is selected. It's very mysterious why it's not working.

Can you think of any other setting that might be preventing this?
Thanks,

Chi

On 3/26/2015 10:05 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Chi,

I've just verified that in version 11.3 the clip indicator definitely works. I'm not sure what might be 
causing your problem with the indicator. One thing I would check is that you have the correct radio button 
checked in the Metering tab of the Preferences window. The way it reads is not entirely clear at first. There 
are two columns, one for Peak and one for Clipping. If you read across, you might mistake the first column as 
immediately following the Clip text. I'm not sure if this happened to you or not but, just to be sure, I 
would check it again. Navigate to the right until you reach the first radio button that reads 3 
seconds and then continue to the second radio button that reads 3 seconds. This is the 
column that pertains to Clipping. Navigate down and you'll find the Infinite radio button and 
make sure it's check.

Hope that helps,

Slau

On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:13 AM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:


Hi Slau,

Just for update, Clip indicators was already set to hold for infinite, and VO 
still doesn't announces when the meter is clipped.
Anything else I should check?
Thanks for your help,

Chi

On 3/22/2015 3:17 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Chi,

Yep, the Click plug-in's parameters don't work well right now. That's certainly 
on the list of things to tackle. Incidentally, the parameters are accessible 
with a control surface. So, for example, to access triplets and accent values, 
etc., the encoder knobs or faders in flip mode will control those parameters 
and it's possible to save those settings as presets for future use.

The clip indicators are working fine. Make sure you have your preferences set 
to hold clip indicators and you should be good to go.

The subject of preset browsing in the plug-in window is clearly a much larger 
issue and, regardless of its accessibility, I'm not sure that it's going to 
necessarily change any time soon. Surely, it's much more of an issue for 
virtual instruments and one size doesn't fit all so I wouldn't expect Avid to 
come up with any solution that'll be right for every developer. Plug-in 
accessibility, in general, is an important issue and its model might have to 
change entirely for it to be viable for the long term. We'll all keep trying 
until we get it right.

Slau

On Mar 22, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:


Hi Slau,

The new click plugin included in pt 11 is not accessible.
Also, getting access to warp markers would be good.
I believe clip indicator is not accessible with Voiceover anymore. When the 
meter clips, Voiceover used to say clipped until you clear it, but it doesn't 
say it anymore.
Lastly, I know you specifically said no new future request, but it'd be worth 
while to briefly mention about creating a flexible database system that manages 
all the presets for all the plugin with tagging system something like Native 
Instrument Komplete. Komplete consists of many plugins with many presets (total 
17,000), but you can browse all of them in one browser and load them easily. 
This would save a lot of time for any composers/producers to find right sound 
without going through many different plugins with many different presets.
The current preset system for Pro Tools is so old style and not that flexible, 
so many developers don't even bother and create their own instead.
I'm sure this would require a lot of thought process to make it useful for 
users, and easier for plugin developers to implement. However, if Avid pulls it 
off well and markets it as a cool new feature, it would benefit everyone 
regardless sighted or blind once the developers start taking advantage of it.
Thanks for working with Avid on this important work.

Chi

On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a 
programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. 
For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is 
simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues 
that can hopefully be taken care of in 

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-26 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Chi,

I can't think of anything else at this point. I'm not sure why it's not working 
for you right now. I'll be travelling overseas tomorrow so I suppose I'll have 
plenty of time to ponder this one :)

Best,

Slau

On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:

 HI Slau, thanks for the help.
 Yes I'm aware of the fact that the Voiceover reads the radio buttons in such 
 ways for that particular settings.
 Peak on the left and and Clip indicator on the right
 Then the related radio buttons below the labels.
 I went to clip indicator label first then went down to make sure infinite is 
 selected. It's very mysterious why it's not working.
 Can you think of any other setting that might be preventing this?
 Thanks,
 
 Chi
 
 On 3/26/2015 10:05 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi Chi,
 
 I've just verified that in version 11.3 the clip indicator definitely works. 
 I'm not sure what might be causing your problem with the indicator. One 
 thing I would check is that you have the correct radio button checked in the 
 Metering tab of the Preferences window. The way it reads is not entirely 
 clear at first. There are two columns, one for Peak and one for Clipping. If 
 you read across, you might mistake the first column as immediately following 
 the Clip text. I'm not sure if this happened to you or not but, just to be 
 sure, I would check it again. Navigate to the right until you reach the 
 first radio button that reads 3 seconds and then continue to the second 
 radio button that reads 3 seconds. This is the column that pertains to 
 Clipping. Navigate down and you'll find the Infinite radio button and make 
 sure it's check.
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:13 AM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau,
 
 Just for update, Clip indicators was already set to hold for infinite, and 
 VO still doesn't announces when the meter is clipped.
 Anything else I should check?
 Thanks for your help,
 
 Chi
 
 On 3/22/2015 3:17 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi Chi,
 
 Yep, the Click plug-in's parameters don't work well right now. That's 
 certainly on the list of things to tackle. Incidentally, the parameters 
 are accessible with a control surface. So, for example, to access triplets 
 and accent values, etc., the encoder knobs or faders in flip mode will 
 control those parameters and it's possible to save those settings as 
 presets for future use.
 
 The clip indicators are working fine. Make sure you have your preferences 
 set to hold clip indicators and you should be good to go.
 
 The subject of preset browsing in the plug-in window is clearly a much 
 larger issue and, regardless of its accessibility, I'm not sure that it's 
 going to necessarily change any time soon. Surely, it's much more of an 
 issue for virtual instruments and one size doesn't fit all so I wouldn't 
 expect Avid to come up with any solution that'll be right for every 
 developer. Plug-in accessibility, in general, is an important issue and 
 its model might have to change entirely for it to be viable for the long 
 term. We'll all keep trying until we get it right.
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 22, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau,
 
 The new click plugin included in pt 11 is not accessible.
 Also, getting access to warp markers would be good.
 I believe clip indicator is not accessible with Voiceover anymore. When 
 the meter clips, Voiceover used to say clipped until you clear it, but it 
 doesn't say it anymore.
 Lastly, I know you specifically said no new future request, but it'd be 
 worth while to briefly mention about creating a flexible database system 
 that manages all the presets for all the plugin with tagging system 
 something like Native Instrument Komplete. Komplete consists of many 
 plugins with many presets (total 17,000), but you can browse all of them 
 in one browser and load them easily. This would save a lot of time for 
 any composers/producers to find right sound without going through many 
 different plugins with many different presets.
 The current preset system for Pro Tools is so old style and not that 
 flexible, so many developers don't even bother and create their own 
 instead.
 I'm sure this would require a lot of thought process to make it useful 
 for users, and easier for plugin developers to implement. However, if 
 Avid pulls it off well and markets it as a cool new feature, it would 
 benefit everyone regardless sighted or blind once the developers start 
 taking advantage of it.
 Thanks for working with Avid on this important work.
 
 Chi
 
 On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. 
 Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to 
 be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro 
 Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already 

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-26 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Chi,

I've just verified that in version 11.3 the clip indicator definitely works. 
I'm not sure what might be causing your problem with the indicator. One thing I 
would check is that you have the correct radio button checked in the Metering 
tab of the Preferences window. The way it reads is not entirely clear at first. 
There are two columns, one for Peak and one for Clipping. If you read across, 
you might mistake the first column as immediately following the Clip text. I'm 
not sure if this happened to you or not but, just to be sure, I would check it 
again. Navigate to the right until you reach the first radio button that reads 
3 seconds and then continue to the second radio button that reads 3 
seconds. This is the column that pertains to Clipping. Navigate down and 
you'll find the Infinite radio button and make sure it's check.

Hope that helps,

Slau

On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:13 AM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 
 Just for update, Clip indicators was already set to hold for infinite, and VO 
 still doesn't announces when the meter is clipped.
 Anything else I should check?
 Thanks for your help,
 
 Chi
 
 On 3/22/2015 3:17 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi Chi,
 
 Yep, the Click plug-in's parameters don't work well right now. That's 
 certainly on the list of things to tackle. Incidentally, the parameters are 
 accessible with a control surface. So, for example, to access triplets and 
 accent values, etc., the encoder knobs or faders in flip mode will control 
 those parameters and it's possible to save those settings as presets for 
 future use.
 
 The clip indicators are working fine. Make sure you have your preferences 
 set to hold clip indicators and you should be good to go.
 
 The subject of preset browsing in the plug-in window is clearly a much 
 larger issue and, regardless of its accessibility, I'm not sure that it's 
 going to necessarily change any time soon. Surely, it's much more of an 
 issue for virtual instruments and one size doesn't fit all so I wouldn't 
 expect Avid to come up with any solution that'll be right for every 
 developer. Plug-in accessibility, in general, is an important issue and its 
 model might have to change entirely for it to be viable for the long term. 
 We'll all keep trying until we get it right.
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 22, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau,
 
 The new click plugin included in pt 11 is not accessible.
 Also, getting access to warp markers would be good.
 I believe clip indicator is not accessible with Voiceover anymore. When the 
 meter clips, Voiceover used to say clipped until you clear it, but it 
 doesn't say it anymore.
 Lastly, I know you specifically said no new future request, but it'd be 
 worth while to briefly mention about creating a flexible database system 
 that manages all the presets for all the plugin with tagging system 
 something like Native Instrument Komplete. Komplete consists of many 
 plugins with many presets (total 17,000), but you can browse all of them in 
 one browser and load them easily. This would save a lot of time for any 
 composers/producers to find right sound without going through many 
 different plugins with many different presets.
 The current preset system for Pro Tools is so old style and not that 
 flexible, so many developers don't even bother and create their own instead.
 I'm sure this would require a lot of thought process to make it useful for 
 users, and easier for plugin developers to implement. However, if Avid 
 pulls it off well and markets it as a cool new feature, it would benefit 
 everyone regardless sighted or blind once the developers start taking 
 advantage of it.
 Thanks for working with Avid on this important work.
 
 Chi
 
 On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use 
 of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people 
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. 
 That's a bigger fish 

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-26 Thread Chi Kim

Thanks Slau, I'll keep looking around and update what I find as well.
Have a safe trip!

Chi
On 3/26/2015 8:55 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Chi,

I can't think of anything else at this point. I'm not sure why it's not working 
for you right now. I'll be travelling overseas tomorrow so I suppose I'll have 
plenty of time to ponder this one :)

Best,

Slau

On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:


HI Slau, thanks for the help.
Yes I'm aware of the fact that the Voiceover reads the radio buttons in such 
ways for that particular settings.
Peak on the left and and Clip indicator on the right
Then the related radio buttons below the labels.
I went to clip indicator label first then went down to make sure infinite is 
selected. It's very mysterious why it's not working.
Can you think of any other setting that might be preventing this?
Thanks,

Chi

On 3/26/2015 10:05 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Chi,

I've just verified that in version 11.3 the clip indicator definitely works. I'm not sure what might be 
causing your problem with the indicator. One thing I would check is that you have the correct radio button 
checked in the Metering tab of the Preferences window. The way it reads is not entirely clear at first. There 
are two columns, one for Peak and one for Clipping. If you read across, you might mistake the first column as 
immediately following the Clip text. I'm not sure if this happened to you or not but, just to be sure, I 
would check it again. Navigate to the right until you reach the first radio button that reads 3 
seconds and then continue to the second radio button that reads 3 seconds. This is the 
column that pertains to Clipping. Navigate down and you'll find the Infinite radio button and 
make sure it's check.

Hope that helps,

Slau

On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:13 AM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:


Hi Slau,

Just for update, Clip indicators was already set to hold for infinite, and VO 
still doesn't announces when the meter is clipped.
Anything else I should check?
Thanks for your help,

Chi

On 3/22/2015 3:17 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Chi,

Yep, the Click plug-in's parameters don't work well right now. That's certainly 
on the list of things to tackle. Incidentally, the parameters are accessible 
with a control surface. So, for example, to access triplets and accent values, 
etc., the encoder knobs or faders in flip mode will control those parameters 
and it's possible to save those settings as presets for future use.

The clip indicators are working fine. Make sure you have your preferences set 
to hold clip indicators and you should be good to go.

The subject of preset browsing in the plug-in window is clearly a much larger 
issue and, regardless of its accessibility, I'm not sure that it's going to 
necessarily change any time soon. Surely, it's much more of an issue for 
virtual instruments and one size doesn't fit all so I wouldn't expect Avid to 
come up with any solution that'll be right for every developer. Plug-in 
accessibility, in general, is an important issue and its model might have to 
change entirely for it to be viable for the long term. We'll all keep trying 
until we get it right.

Slau

On Mar 22, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:


Hi Slau,

The new click plugin included in pt 11 is not accessible.
Also, getting access to warp markers would be good.
I believe clip indicator is not accessible with Voiceover anymore. When the 
meter clips, Voiceover used to say clipped until you clear it, but it doesn't 
say it anymore.
Lastly, I know you specifically said no new future request, but it'd be worth 
while to briefly mention about creating a flexible database system that manages 
all the presets for all the plugin with tagging system something like Native 
Instrument Komplete. Komplete consists of many plugins with many presets (total 
17,000), but you can browse all of them in one browser and load them easily. 
This would save a lot of time for any composers/producers to find right sound 
without going through many different plugins with many different presets.
The current preset system for Pro Tools is so old style and not that flexible, 
so many developers don't even bother and create their own instead.
I'm sure this would require a lot of thought process to make it useful for 
users, and easier for plugin developers to implement. However, if Avid pulls it 
off well and markets it as a cool new feature, it would benefit everyone 
regardless sighted or blind once the developers start taking advantage of it.
Thanks for working with Avid on this important work.

Chi

On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a 
programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
largely 

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-24 Thread Brian Howerton
Hi Scott,
I used to use the Cakewalk Sonar package from Dancing dots with the CakeTalking 
scripts for Jaws.  You could read the gain reduction meters in that compressor 
that came with Sonar.  Thanks,
Brian
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 
 I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another
 one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction
 with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just
 because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to drop
 me a line off list so we don't stray off topic.
 
 Cheers
 
 Scott
 
 On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters
 in pt?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a
 bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you
 have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect
 the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a
 volume option.
 Thanks aplenty Slau.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree
 with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments.
 Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in
 compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup
 menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover.
 This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
 
 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
   Is there any hope for structure?  That is an
 
 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to
 
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values
 
 directly.
 Keep up the good work Slau!
 Gord
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
 
 Hi John,
 
 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an
 issue
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible
 via
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can
 
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving
 town
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.
 
 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name.
 VoiceOver
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other
 words,
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the
 button
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 best,
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:
 
 Hello Slau,
 
 Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of
 things I
 have.
 
 First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am
 
 unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
 setting up a click track.
 
 Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
 finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied
 to
 bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of
 input
 monitor.
 
 Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.
 
 John
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
 down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
 
 Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting
 to
 be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro
 Tools
 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the
 
 beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is
 focused
 on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that
 affect
 the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts
 
 and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs
 to be
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be
 taken
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed
 but I
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of
 the
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for
 people
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing
 track.
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term
 solution.
 These are, as I

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-24 Thread David Eagle
Oo, exciting news about the braille display wheels. I have a focus 40. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 23 Mar 2015, at 16:32, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote:
 
 ``Actually, if you happen to have a braille display with whiz weels like 
 the focus 40 blue, you can make value changes a lot quicker.
 Gord
 
 -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:45 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
 
 Hi Brian,
 
 You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a 
 gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be 
 since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a 
 VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's 
 something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's 
 not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, 
 exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears.
 
 Best,
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters 
 in pt?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be 
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a 
 bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you 
 have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect 
 the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a 
 volume option.
 Thanks aplenty Slau.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree 
 with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. 
 Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in 
 compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus 
 in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This 
 dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
 
 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
   Is there any hope for structure?  That is an
 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values
 directly.
 Keep up the good work Slau!
 Gord
 
 -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
 
 Hi John,
 
 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible 
 via
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.
 
 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words,
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the 
 button
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 best,
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:
 
  Hello Slau,
 
  Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of  
  things I
  have.
 
  First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am
  unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
  setting up a click track.
 
  Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
  finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied  to
  bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of  
  input
  monitor.
 
  Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.
 
  John
 
 
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit  
  down
  with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
  Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting 
   to
  be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro  
  Tools
  12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the
  beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is  
  focused
  on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that  
  affect
  the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts
  and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs  
  to be
  overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be  
  taken
  care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
  I have a clear idea

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-24 Thread Chris Smart

really? I've never noticed that. Can you remember what keystroke you used?
I'm asuming you're talking about the Sonitus compressor.


At 08:18 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:

Hi Scott,
I used to use the Cakewalk Sonar package from Dancing dots with the 
CakeTalking scripts for Jaws.  You could read the gain reduction 
meters in that compressor that came with Sonar.  Thanks,

Brian
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Scott Chesworth 
scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Brian,

 I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another
 one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction
 with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just
 because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to drop
 me a line off list so we don't stray off topic.

 Cheers

 Scott

 On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters
 in pt?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a
 bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you
 have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect
 the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a
 volume option.
 Thanks aplenty Slau.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree
 with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger 
increments.

 Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in
 compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup
 menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover.
 This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason

 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
   Is there any hope for structure?  That is an

 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to 
be able to


 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to 
type in values


 directly.
 Keep up the good work Slau!
 Gord

 -Original Message-
 From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

 Hi John,

 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an
 issue
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are 
accessible

 via
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll 
see if I can


 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving
 town
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.

 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name.
 VoiceOver
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other
 words,
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the
 button
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.

 Hope that helps.

 best,

 Slau

 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:

 Hello Slau,

 Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of
 things I
 have.

 First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am

 unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
 setting up a click track.

 Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
 finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied
 to
 bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of
 input
 monitor.

 Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.

 John


 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:


 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
 down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.

 Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting
 to
 be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro
 Tools
 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the

 beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is
 focused
 on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that
 affect
 the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts

 and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs
 to be
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be
 taken
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed
 but I
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of
 the
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their

 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for
 people
 to suggest

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-24 Thread Brian Howerton
Yes, in the sonnets compressor, if you pressed f2, it would read you the input, 
output, and gain reduction meters.
Brian
 On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
 really? I've never noticed that. Can you remember what keystroke you used?
 I'm asuming you're talking about the Sonitus compressor.
 
 
 At 08:18 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 I used to use the Cakewalk Sonar package from Dancing dots with the 
 CakeTalking scripts for Jaws.  You could read the gain reduction meters in 
 that compressor that came with Sonar.  Thanks,
 Brian
  On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  Hi Brian,
 
  I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another
  one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction
  with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just
  because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to drop
  me a line off list so we don't stray off topic.
 
  Cheers
 
  Scott
 
  On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
  How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters
  in pt?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
 
  Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be
  massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a
  bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you
  have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect
  the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a
  volume option.
  Thanks aplenty Slau.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree
  with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger 
  increments.
  Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in
  compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup
  menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover.
  This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
 
  On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
Is there any hope for structure?  That is an
 
  Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able 
  to
 
  adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in 
  values
 
  directly.
  Keep up the good work Slau!
  Gord
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Slau Halatyn
  Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
  To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
 
  Hi John,
 
  Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an
  issue
  that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are 
  accessible
  via
  a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I 
  can
 
  come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving
  town
  this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.
 
  The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name.
  VoiceOver
  indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other
  words,
  much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the
  button
  as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.
 
  Hope that helps.
 
  best,
 
  Slau
 
  On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:
 
  Hello Slau,
 
  Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of
  things I
  have.
 
  First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am
 
  unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
  setting up a click track.
 
  Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
  finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied
  to
  bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of
  input
  monitor.
 
  Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.
 
  John
 
 
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
  down
  with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
 
  Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting
  to
  be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro
  Tools
  12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the
 
  beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is
  focused
  on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that
  affect
  the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts
 
  and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs
  to be
  overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be
  taken
  care of in one marathon

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-24 Thread Brian Howerton
Yeah, that is what I was thinking to would be a good work-around as well.
 On Mar 24, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
 oh cool. I had no idea! Thanks for that.
 
 Of course, you can always find the loudest section of the song, loop part of 
 it, and read the track or bus meter peaks with compression engaged then 
 bypassed.
 
 At 11:26 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:
 Yes, in the sonnets compressor, if you pressed f2, it would read you the 
 input, output, and gain reduction meters.
 Brian
  On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
  really? I've never noticed that. Can you remember what keystroke you used?
  I'm asuming you're talking about the Sonitus compressor.
 
 
  At 08:18 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:
  Hi Scott,
  I used to use the Cakewalk Sonar package from Dancing dots with the 
  CakeTalking scripts for Jaws.  You could read the gain reduction meters 
  in that compressor that came with Sonar.  Thanks,
  Brian
   On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
  
   Hi Brian,
  
   I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another
   one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction
   with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just
   because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to drop
   me a line off list so we don't stray off topic.
  
   Cheers
  
   Scott
  
   On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
   How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction 
   meters
   in pt?
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com
   wrote:
  
   Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be
   massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. 
   I'm a
   bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If 
   you
   have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment 
   affect
   the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim 
   and a
   volume option.
   Thanks aplenty Slau.
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I 
   agree
   with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger 
   increments.
   Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in
   compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup
   menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with 
   voiceover.
   This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
  
   On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
 Is there any hope for structure?  That is 
   an
  
   Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be 
   able to
  
   adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in 
   values
  
   directly.
   Keep up the good work Slau!
   Gord
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Slau Halatyn
   Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
   To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
  
   Hi John,
  
   Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely 
   an
   issue
   that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are 
   accessible
   via
   a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if 
   I can
  
   come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm 
   leaving
   town
   this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.
  
   The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name.
   VoiceOver
   indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other
   words,
   much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of 
   the
   button
   as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.
  
   Hope that helps.
  
   best,
  
   Slau
  
   On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:
  
   Hello Slau,
  
   Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of
   things I
   have.
  
   First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I 
   am
  
   unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
   setting up a click track.
  
   Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
   finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  
   Tryied
   to
   bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of
   input
   monitor.
  
   Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my 
   feedback.
  
   John
  
  
   On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
  
  
   In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to 
   sit
   down
   with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro 
   Tools.
  
   Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-24 Thread Chris Smart

oh for sure. and faster is almost always better.

At 04:12 PM 3/24/2015, you wrote:

Sure, this is what I do at the moment because it works across DAWs.
Takes double the amount of time though for each pass, so thought it
was worth asking.

Scott

On 3/24/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 oh cool. I had no idea! Thanks for that.

 Of course, you can always find the loudest section of the song, loop
 part of it, and read the track or bus meter peaks with compression
 engaged then bypassed.

 At 11:26 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:
Yes, in the sonnets compressor, if you pressed f2, it would read you
the input, output, and gain reduction meters.
Brian
  On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
  really? I've never noticed that. Can you remember what keystroke you
  used?
  I'm asuming you're talking about the Sonitus compressor.
 
 
  At 08:18 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:
  Hi Scott,
  I used to use the Cakewalk Sonar package from Dancing dots with
 the CakeTalking scripts for Jaws.  You could read the gain
 reduction meters in that compressor that came with Sonar.  Thanks,
  Brian
   On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Scott Chesworth
 scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hi Brian,
  
   I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another
   one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction
   with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just
   because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to
   drop
   me a line off list so we don't stray off topic.
  
   Cheers
  
   Scott
  
   On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
   How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain
 reduction meters
   in pt?
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle
   onlineea...@googlemail.com
   wrote:
  
   Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would
   be
   massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in
 compressors too. I'm a
   bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a
 track. If you
   have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume
 adjustment affect
   the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was
 a trim and a
   volume option.
   Thanks aplenty Slau.
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay
   overdriverecord...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My
 input. I agree
   with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in
 larger increments.
   Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters
   in
   compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2
   popup
   menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work
 with voiceover.
   This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
  
   On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
 Is there any hope for
 structure?  That is an
  
   Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice
 to be able to
  
   adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to
 type in values
  
   directly.
   Keep up the good work Slau!
   Gord
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Slau Halatyn
   Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
   To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
  
   Hi John,
  
   Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is
 definitely an
   issue
   that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters
 are accessible
   via
   a control surface. For those who don't have a surface,
 I'll see if I can
  
   come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time.
 I'm leaving
   town
   this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.
  
   The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its
   name.
   VoiceOver
   indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In
   other
   words,
   much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the
 name of the
   button
   as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.
  
   Hope that helps.
  
   best,
  
   Slau
  
   On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:
  
   Hello Slau,
  
   Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple
   of
   things I
   have.
  
   First when selecting a click sound other then the default
 click, I am
  
   unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course
   is
   setting up a click track.
  
   Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a
   way
   finding the status of a track if it is set to input
 monitor?  Tryied
   to
   bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because
   of
   input
   monitor.
  
   Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of
 my feedback.
  
   John
  
  
   On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn
 slauh...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique
 opportunity to sit
   down

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-24 Thread Scott Chesworth
Sure, this is what I do at the moment because it works across DAWs.
Takes double the amount of time though for each pass, so thought it
was worth asking.

Scott

On 3/24/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 oh cool. I had no idea! Thanks for that.

 Of course, you can always find the loudest section of the song, loop
 part of it, and read the track or bus meter peaks with compression
 engaged then bypassed.

 At 11:26 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:
Yes, in the sonnets compressor, if you pressed f2, it would read you
the input, output, and gain reduction meters.
Brian
  On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
  really? I've never noticed that. Can you remember what keystroke you
  used?
  I'm asuming you're talking about the Sonitus compressor.
 
 
  At 08:18 AM 3/24/2015, you wrote:
  Hi Scott,
  I used to use the Cakewalk Sonar package from Dancing dots with
 the CakeTalking scripts for Jaws.  You could read the gain
 reduction meters in that compressor that came with Sonar.  Thanks,
  Brian
   On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Scott Chesworth
 scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hi Brian,
  
   I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another
   one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction
   with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just
   because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to
   drop
   me a line off list so we don't stray off topic.
  
   Cheers
  
   Scott
  
   On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
   How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain
 reduction meters
   in pt?
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle
   onlineea...@googlemail.com
   wrote:
  
   Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would
   be
   massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in
 compressors too. I'm a
   bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a
 track. If you
   have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume
 adjustment affect
   the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was
 a trim and a
   volume option.
   Thanks aplenty Slau.
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay
   overdriverecord...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My
 input. I agree
   with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in
 larger increments.
   Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters
   in
   compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2
   popup
   menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work
 with voiceover.
   This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
  
   On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
 Is there any hope for
 structure?  That is an
  
   Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice
 to be able to
  
   adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to
 type in values
  
   directly.
   Keep up the good work Slau!
   Gord
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Slau Halatyn
   Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
   To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
  
   Hi John,
  
   Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is
 definitely an
   issue
   that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters
 are accessible
   via
   a control surface. For those who don't have a surface,
 I'll see if I can
  
   come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time.
 I'm leaving
   town
   this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.
  
   The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its
   name.
   VoiceOver
   indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In
   other
   words,
   much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the
 name of the
   button
   as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.
  
   Hope that helps.
  
   best,
  
   Slau
  
   On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:
  
   Hello Slau,
  
   Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple
   of
   things I
   have.
  
   First when selecting a click sound other then the default
 click, I am
  
   unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course
   is
   setting up a click track.
  
   Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a
   way
   finding the status of a track if it is set to input
 monitor?  Tryied
   to
   bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because
   of
   input
   monitor.
  
   Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of
 my feedback.
  
   John
  
  
   On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn
 slauh...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique
 opportunity to sit
   down
   with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues
 in Pro Tools.
  
   Under

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread David Eagle
Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively 
helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what 
happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor 
insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or 
after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. 
Thanks aplenty Slau.

Sent from my iPhone

 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with 
 Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it 
 would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins 
 both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split 
 notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with 
 option y. Regards, Jason
 
 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
Is there any hope for structure?  That is an 
 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to  
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values 
 directly. 
 Keep up the good work Slau! 
 Gord 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Slau Halatyn 
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM 
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 
 
 Hi John, 
 
 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue 
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via 
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can 
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town 
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. 
 
 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver 
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, 
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button 
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. 
 
 Hope that helps. 
 
 best, 
 
 Slau 
 
 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: 
 
  Hello Slau, 
  
  Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I 
  have. 
  
  First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am 
  unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is 
  setting up a click track. 
  
  Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way  
  finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied to 
  bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input 
  monitor. 
  
  Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. 
  
  John 
  
  
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
  with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. 
  Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to 
  be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 
  12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the 
  beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused 
  on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect 
  the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts 
  and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
  overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
  care of in one marathon session of tweaks. 
  
  I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
  thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
  list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
  productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people 
  to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. 
  That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. 
  These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed 
  quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking 
  existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and 
  we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The 
  sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare. 
  
  Thanks, 
  
  Slau 
  
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Brian Howerton
How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in 
pt?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be 
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit 
 unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a 
 compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level 
 before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume 
 option. 
 Thanks aplenty Slau.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with 
 Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, 
 it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor 
 plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the 
 select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is 
 accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
 
 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
Is there any hope for structure?  That is an 
 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to 
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values 
 directly. 
 Keep up the good work Slau! 
 Gord 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Slau Halatyn 
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM 
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 
 
 Hi John, 
 
 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue 
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible 
 via 
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can 
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town 
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. 
 
 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver 
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, 
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the 
 button 
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. 
 
 Hope that helps. 
 
 best, 
 
 Slau 
 
 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: 
 
  Hello Slau, 
  
  Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I 
  have. 
  
  First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am 
  unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is 
  setting up a click track. 
  
  Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way 
  finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied to  
  bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input 
  monitor. 
  
  Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. 
  
  John 
  
  
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
  with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. 
  Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to 
  be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro 
  Tools 
  12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the 
  beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused 
  on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect 
  the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts 
  and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to 
  be 
  overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be 
  taken 
  care of in one marathon session of tweaks. 
  
  I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
  thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of 
  the 
  list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
  productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for 
  people 
  to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. 
  That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. 
  These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed 
  quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking 
  existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and 
  we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The 
  sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare. 
  
  Thanks, 
  
  Slau 
  
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi guys,

The issue of changing plug-in values in greater increments is one of those 
situations where a paradigm shift would need to take place for it to be 
different. That, of course, might happen at some point but not right now—not 
yet, at least. For the time being, a control surface is your friend and you can 
change parameter values at whichever rate you choose. Be assured, however, that 
plug-in issues will be looked at for the long run.

The reduction meters are also on the list. Mind you, of course, I will have one 
day to address all concerns and we simply won't get to everything. Whatever we 
gain is better than nothing and I'm hopeful that a number issues can be 
addressed. 

Cheers,

Slau

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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Kevin Reeves

The faders are Post compressor.
This means that when you turn up the level, you are increasing what 
happens after compression is applied.
In the compressor plug, there's an input fader as well, so you can feed 
more into the comp if you want.


Hope this helps.

Kevin
On 3/23/2015 8:50 AM, David Eagle wrote:
Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be 
massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm 
a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If 
you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment 
affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a 
trim and a volume option.

Thanks aplenty Slau.

Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com 
mailto:overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I 
agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger 
increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction 
meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there 
are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work 
with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason


On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:

   Is there any hope for structure?  That
is an
Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be
able to
adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in
values
directly.
Keep up the good work Slau!
Gord

-Original Message-
From: Slau Halatyn
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
To: ptac...@googlegroups.com javascript:
Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

Hi John,

Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is
definitely an issue
that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are
accessible via
a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see
if I can
come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm
leaving town
this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.

The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name.
VoiceOver
indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In
other words,
much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of
the button
as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.

Hope that helps.

best,

Slau

On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com
javascript: wrote:

 Hello Slau,

 Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple
of things I
 have.

 First when selecting a click sound other then the default
click, I am
 unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of
course is
 setting up a click track.

 Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a
way
 finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?
 Tryied to
 bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because
of input
 monitor.

 Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my
feedback.

 John


 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com
javascript: wrote:

 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity
to sit down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro
Tools.
 Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this
meeting to
 be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release
of Pro Tools
 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already
within the
 beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base
is focused
 on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues
that affect
 the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the
inserts
 and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This
needs to be
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can
hopefully be taken
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be
addressed but I
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm
asking of the
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect
their
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean
for people
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an
existing track.
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term
solution.
 These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be
addressed
 quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking
 existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread studiojay
Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with 
Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, 
it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor 
plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the 
select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is 
accessed with option y. Regards, Jason

On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:

Is there any hope for structure?  That is an 
 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to 
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values 
 directly. 
 Keep up the good work Slau! 
 Gord 

 -Original Message- 
 From: Slau Halatyn 
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM 
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 

 Hi John, 

 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an 
 issue 
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible 
 via 
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can 
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving 
 town 
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. 

 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. 
 VoiceOver 
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, 
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the 
 button 
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. 

 Hope that helps. 

 best, 

 Slau 

 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com javascript: 
 wrote: 

  Hello Slau, 
  
  Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things 
 I 
  have. 
  
  First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am 
  unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is 
  setting up a click track. 
  
  Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way 
  finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied to 
  bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input 
  monitor. 
  
  Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. 
  
  John 
  
  
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 
  
  In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit 
 down 
  with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. 
  Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting 
 to 
  be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro 
 Tools 
  12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the 
  beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is 
 focused 
  on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect 
  the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts 
  and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to 
 be 
  overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be 
 taken 
  care of in one marathon session of tweaks. 
  
  I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but 
 I 
  thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of 
 the 
  list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
  productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for 
 people 
  to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. 
  That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. 
  These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed 
  quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking 
  existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and 
  we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The 
  sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare. 
  
  Thanks, 
  
  Slau 
  
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Brian Howerton
Hi Slau,
No, that is a great answer, and something that I needed to hear.  After all, it 
really is about using your ears.  
Brian
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 
 You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a 
 gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be 
 since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a 
 VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's 
 something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's 
 not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, 
 exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears.
 
 Best,
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters 
 in pt?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be 
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a 
 bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you 
 have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect 
 the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a 
 volume option. 
 Thanks aplenty Slau.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree 
 with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. 
 Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in 
 compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus 
 in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This 
 dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
 
 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
   Is there any hope for structure?  That is an 
 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to 
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values 
 directly. 
 Keep up the good work Slau! 
 Gord 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Slau Halatyn 
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM 
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 
 
 Hi John, 
 
 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an 
 issue 
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible 
 via 
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can 
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving 
 town 
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. 
 
 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. 
 VoiceOver 
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, 
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the 
 button 
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. 
 
 Hope that helps. 
 
 best, 
 
 Slau 
 
 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: 
 
 Hello Slau, 
 
 Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I 
 have. 
 
 First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am 
 unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is 
 setting up a click track. 
 
 Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way 
 finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied to 
 bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input 
 monitor. 
 
 Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. 
 
 John 
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. 
 Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to 
 be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro 
 Tools 
 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the 
 beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused 
 on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect 
 the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts 
 and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to 
 be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be 
 taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks. 
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of 
 the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Jason Dasent
Using your ears is fine, However, with compressors that feature
automatic make up gain, it could be quite tricky to hear what the
compressor is actually doing, because the gain is being made up in
real time as you adjust the controls. For this reason, it would be
great to have the gain reduction meters read by voiceover. Also, I
agree with the person who said that it would be good to be able to
type in values for parameters in plugins.
Jason

On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 No, that is a great answer, and something that I needed to hear.  After all,
 it really is about using your ears.
 Brian
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Brian,

 You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read
 a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would
 be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make
 out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think
 it's something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people,
 it's not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now,
 exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears.

 Best,

 Slau

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction
 meters in pt?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a
 bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you
 have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment
 affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a
 trim and a volume option.
 Thanks aplenty Slau.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree
 with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger
 increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction
 meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are
 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with
 voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason

 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
   Is there any hope for structure?  That is an

 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able
 to
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in
 values
 directly.
 Keep up the good work Slau!
 Gord

 -Original Message-
 From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

 Hi John,

 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an
 issue
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are
 accessible via
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I
 can
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving
 town
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.

 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name.
 VoiceOver
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other
 words,
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the
 button
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.

 Hope that helps.

 best,

 Slau

 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:

 Hello Slau,

 Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of
 things I
 have.

 First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am

 unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
 setting up a click track.

 Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
 finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied
 to
 bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of
 input
 monitor.

 Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.

 John


 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:


 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
 down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.

 Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting
 to
 be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro
 Tools
 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the

 beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is
 focused
 on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that
 affect
 the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts

 and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Chris Smart
Oh I agree regarding auto makeup gain. You want to train yourself 
using a compressor that allows you to turn auto makeup off, or 
doesn't have it at all. i.e. i fthere's a manual makeup gain control, 
leave it off while you're playing with things.


At 11:16 AM 3/23/2015, you wrote:

Using your ears is fine, However, with compressors that feature
automatic make up gain, it could be quite tricky to hear what the
compressor is actually doing, because the gain is being made up in
real time as you adjust the controls. For this reason, it would be
great to have the gain reduction meters read by voiceover. Also, I
agree with the person who said that it would be good to be able to
type in values for parameters in plugins.
Jason

On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 No, that is a great answer, and something that I needed to 
hear.  After all,

 it really is about using your ears.
 Brian
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Brian,

 You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read
 a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would
 be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make
 out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think
 it's something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people,
 it's not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now,
 exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears.

 Best,

 Slau

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction
 meters in pt?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a
 bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you
 have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment
 affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a
 trim and a volume option.
 Thanks aplenty Slau.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree
 with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger
 increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction
 meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are
 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with
 voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason

 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
   Is there any hope for structure?  That is an

 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able
 to
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in
 values
 directly.
 Keep up the good work Slau!
 Gord

 -Original Message-
 From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

 Hi John,

 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an
 issue
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are
 accessible via
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I
 can
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving
 town
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.

 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name.
 VoiceOver
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other
 words,
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the
 button
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.

 Hope that helps.

 best,

 Slau

 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:

 Hello Slau,

 Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of
 things I
 have.

 First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am

 unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
 setting up a click track.

 Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
 finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied
 to
 bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of
 input
 monitor.

 Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.

 John


 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:


 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
 down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.

 Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting
 to
 be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro
 Tools
 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the

 beta

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Chris Smart

agreed. learn to notice when a compressor is active and when it isn't.

At 09:45 AM 3/23/2015, you wrote:

Hi Brian,

You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never 
read a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and 
that would be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I 
could actually make out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That 
said, naturally, I think it's something that should be accessible. 
In other words, for most people, it's not a deal-breaker but it's an 
issue that needs attention. For now, exaggerate your compression, 
back it off and trust your ears.


Best,

Slau

On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:

 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain 
reduction meters in pt?


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle 
onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:


 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments 
would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in 
compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase 
the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that 
track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after 
the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option.

 Thanks aplenty Slau.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. 
I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in 
larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain 
reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. 
Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that 
do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. 
Regards, Jason


 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
Is there any hope for structure?  That is an
 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values
 directly.
 Keep up the good work Slau!
 Gord

 -Original Message-
 From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

 Hi John,

 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is 
definitely an issue
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are 
accessible via

 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm 
leaving town

 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.

 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its 
name. VoiceOver
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In 
other words,
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name 
of the button

 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.

 Hope that helps.

 best,

 Slau

 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:

  Hello Slau,
 
  Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple 
of things I

  have.
 
  First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am
  unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
  setting up a click track.
 
  Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
  finding the status of a track if it is set to input 
monitor?  Tryied to
  bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce 
because of input

  monitor.
 
  Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.
 
  John
 
 
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity 
to sit down

  with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
  Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for 
this meeting to
  be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release 
of Pro Tools

  12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the
  beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user 
base is focused
  on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues 
that affect

  the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts
  and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. 
This needs to be
  overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can 
hopefully be taken

  care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
  I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be 
addressed but I
  thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm 
asking of the

  list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
  productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't 
mean for people
  to suggest a different method for importing files to an 
existing track.
  That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Brian,

Please call me at some point today.  Haven't heard from you in a while, and 
would absolutely love! to catch up.

This number is public knowledge, as it's my work desk phone, so I have no 
problem at all giving you this number on list.

704-594-2225X701

---
Check out my web site at:
http://www.clgproductions.net
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Howerton 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:39 AM
  Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12


  How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in 
pt?

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:


Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be 
massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit 
unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a 
compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level 
before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. 
Thanks aplenty Slau.

Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:


  Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree 
with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, 
it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins 
both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split 
notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with 
option y. Regards, Jason

  On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
   Is there any hope for structure?  That is an 
Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able 
to 
adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in 
values 
directly. 
Keep up the good work Slau! 
Gord 

-Original Message- 
From: Slau Halatyn 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM 
To: ptac...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 

Hi John, 

Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an 
issue 
that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are 
accessible via 
a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I 
can 
come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving 
town 
this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. 

The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. 
VoiceOver 
indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other 
words, 
much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the 
button 
as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. 

Hope that helps. 

best, 

Slau 

On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: 

 Hello Slau, 
 
 Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of 
things I 
 have. 
 
 First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am 
 unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is 
 setting up a click track. 
 
 Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way 
 finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied 
to 
 bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of 
input 
 monitor. 
 
 Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. 
 
 John 
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com 
wrote: 
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit 
down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. 
 Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this 
meeting to 
 be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro 
Tools 
 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within 
the 
 beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is 
focused 
 on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that 
affect 
 the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the 
inserts 
 and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs 
to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be 
taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks. 
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed 
but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Brian,

You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a 
gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be 
since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a VU 
meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's something 
that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's not a 
deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, exaggerate your 
compression, back it off and trust your ears.

Best,

Slau

On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:

 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in 
 pt?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be 
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit 
 unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a 
 compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level 
 before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume 
 option. 
 Thanks aplenty Slau.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with 
 Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, 
 it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor 
 plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the 
 select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is 
 accessed with option y. Regards, Jason
 
 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
Is there any hope for structure?  That is an 
 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to 
 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values 
 directly. 
 Keep up the good work Slau! 
 Gord 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Slau Halatyn 
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM 
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 
 
 Hi John, 
 
 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue 
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible 
 via 
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can 
 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town 
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. 
 
 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver 
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, 
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the 
 button 
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. 
 
 Hope that helps. 
 
 best, 
 
 Slau 
 
 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: 
 
  Hello Slau, 
  
  Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I 
  have. 
  
  First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am 
  unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is 
  setting up a click track. 
  
  Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way 
  finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied to 
  bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input 
  monitor. 
  
  Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. 
  
  John 
  
  
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
  with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. 
  Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to 
  be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro 
  Tools 
  12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the 
  beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused 
  on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect 
  the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts 
  and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to 
  be 
  overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be 
  taken 
  care of in one marathon session of tweaks. 
  
  I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
  thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of 
  the 
  list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
  productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for 
  people 
  to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. 
  That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. 
  These are, as I said

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Gordon Kent
``Actually, if you happen to have a braille display with whiz weels like 
the focus 40 blue, you can make value changes a lot quicker.

Gord

-Original Message- 
From: Slau Halatyn

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:45 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

Hi Brian,

You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a 
gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be 
since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a 
VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's 
something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's 
not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, 
exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears.


Best,

Slau

On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:

How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters 
in pt?


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be 
massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a 
bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you 
have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect 
the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a 
volume option.

Thanks aplenty Slau.

Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree 
with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger 
increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction 
meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 
popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with 
voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason


On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
   Is there any hope for structure?  That is an
Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to
adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values
directly.
Keep up the good work Slau!
Gord

-Original Message- 
From: Slau Halatyn

Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

Hi John,

Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an 
issue
that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible 
via

a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can
come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving 
town

this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.

The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. 
VoiceOver
indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other 
words,
much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the 
button

as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.

Hope that helps.

best,

Slau

On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:

 Hello Slau,

 Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of 
 things I

 have.

 First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am
 unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
 setting up a click track.

 Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
 finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied 
 to
 bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of 
 input

 monitor.

 Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.

 John


 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:

 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit 
 down

 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
 Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting 
 to
 be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro 
 Tools

 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the
 beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is 
 focused
 on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that 
 affect

 the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts
 and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs 
 to be
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be 
 taken

 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed 
 but I
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of 
 the

 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-23 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hi Brian,

I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another
one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction
with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just
because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to drop
me a line off list so we don't stray off topic.

Cheers

Scott

On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters
 in pt?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be
 massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a
 bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you
 have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect
 the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a
 volume option.
 Thanks aplenty Slau.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree
 with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments.
 Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in
 compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup
 menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover.
 This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason

 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote:
Is there any hope for structure?  That is an

 Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to

 adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values

 directly.
 Keep up the good work Slau!
 Gord

 -Original Message-
 From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
 To: ptac...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

 Hi John,

 Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an
 issue
 that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible
 via
 a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can

 come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving
 town
 this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.

 The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name.
 VoiceOver
 indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other
 words,
 much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the
 button
 as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.

 Hope that helps.

 best,

 Slau

 On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote:

  Hello Slau,
 
  Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of
  things I
  have.
 
  First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am
 
  unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is
  setting up a click track.
 
  Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way
  finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied
  to
  bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of
  input
  monitor.
 
  Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.
 
  John
 
 
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
  down
  with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
 
  Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting
  to
  be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro
  Tools
  12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the
 
  beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is
  focused
  on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that
  affect
  the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts
 
  and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs
  to be
  overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be
  taken
  care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
  I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed
  but I
  thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of
  the
  list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
 
  productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for
  people
  to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing
  track.
  That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term
  solution.
  These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed
  quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking
  existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and
 
  we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns

Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-22 Thread HF
Hey Slau, any discussions about elastic audio? If I'm not mistaken you 
can tab to warp markers. Just haven't figured out how to manipulate them.


HF

On 3/18/2015 6:37 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Vincenzo,

Pro Tools First is based on Pro Tools 11 so the accessibility will be largely 
the same. That said, the focus for this session will be on Pro Tools 12.

Cheers,

Slau

On Mar 18, 2015, at 6:16 AM, Vincenzo Rubano vincenzorub...@email.it wrote:


Hi Slau,

my two cents would be to make sure that protools|First, the free version of 
protools Avid is going to release anytime soon, gets the same accessibility 
level of the standard Protools 12.

Vincenzo.


Il giorno 16/mar/2015, alle ore 15:41, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com ha 
scritto:

In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a 
programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. 
For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is 
simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues 
that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list 
is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity 
and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a 
different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish 
to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, 
quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up 
issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your 
top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the 
biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

Thanks,

Slau

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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-22 Thread Chi Kim

Hi Slau,

The new click plugin included in pt 11 is not accessible.
Also, getting access to warp markers would be good.
I believe clip indicator is not accessible with Voiceover anymore. When 
the meter clips, Voiceover used to say clipped until you clear it, but 
it doesn't say it anymore.
Lastly, I know you specifically said no new future request, but it'd be 
worth while to briefly mention about creating a flexible database system 
that manages all the presets for all the plugin with tagging system 
something like Native Instrument Komplete. Komplete consists of many 
plugins with many presets (total 17,000), but you can browse all of them 
in one browser and load them easily. This would save a lot of time for 
any composers/producers to find right sound without going through many 
different plugins with many different presets.
The current preset system for Pro Tools is so old style and not that 
flexible, so many developers don't even bother and create their own instead.
I'm sure this would require a lot of thought process to make it useful 
for users, and easier for plugin developers to implement. However, if 
Avid pulls it off well and markets it as a cool new feature, it would 
benefit everyone regardless sighted or blind once the developers start 
taking advantage of it.

Thanks for working with Avid on this important work.

Chi

On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a 
programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. 
For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is 
simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues 
that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list 
is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity 
and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a 
different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish 
to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, 
quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up 
issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your 
top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the 
biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

Thanks,

Slau



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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-22 Thread John Gunn
Hello Slau,

Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have.

First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to 
choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is setting up a click 
track.

Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the 
status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied to bounce a session 
last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor.

Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.

John


 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with 
 a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
 circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
 barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
 largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
 to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
 address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with 
 VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are 
 displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of 
 such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of 
 tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a 
 bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I 
 said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring 
 up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me 
 your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as 
 the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can 
 prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-22 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Herman,

I don't think anything's going to change with Elastic Audio for the time-being. 
I believe it's on the bug report sheet but I'll have to double check. It's 
definitely something I'd like to see be fully usable at some point.

Slau

On Mar 22, 2015, at 8:53 AM, HF hermanfer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Slau, any discussions about elastic audio? If I'm not mistaken you can 
 tab to warp markers. Just haven't figured out how to manipulate them.
 
 HF
 
 On 3/18/2015 6:37 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi Vincenzo,
 
 Pro Tools First is based on Pro Tools 11 so the accessibility will be 
 largely the same. That said, the focus for this session will be on Pro Tools 
 12.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 18, 2015, at 6:16 AM, Vincenzo Rubano vincenzorub...@email.it wrote:
 
 Hi Slau,
 
 my two cents would be to make sure that protools|First, the free version of 
 protools Avid is going to release anytime soon, gets the same accessibility 
 level of the standard Protools 12.
 
 Vincenzo.
 
 Il giorno 16/mar/2015, alle ore 15:41, Slau Halatyn 
 slauhala...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use 
 of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people 
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. 
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. 
 These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed 
 quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing 
 issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see 
 which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you 
 get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-22 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Chi,

Yep, the Click plug-in's parameters don't work well right now. That's certainly 
on the list of things to tackle. Incidentally, the parameters are accessible 
with a control surface. So, for example, to access triplets and accent values, 
etc., the encoder knobs or faders in flip mode will control those parameters 
and it's possible to save those settings as presets for future use.

The clip indicators are working fine. Make sure you have your preferences set 
to hold clip indicators and you should be good to go.

The subject of preset browsing in the plug-in window is clearly a much larger 
issue and, regardless of its accessibility, I'm not sure that it's going to 
necessarily change any time soon. Surely, it's much more of an issue for 
virtual instruments and one size doesn't fit all so I wouldn't expect Avid to 
come up with any solution that'll be right for every developer. Plug-in 
accessibility, in general, is an important issue and its model might have to 
change entirely for it to be viable for the long term. We'll all keep trying 
until we get it right.

Slau

On Mar 22, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 
 The new click plugin included in pt 11 is not accessible.
 Also, getting access to warp markers would be good.
 I believe clip indicator is not accessible with Voiceover anymore. When the 
 meter clips, Voiceover used to say clipped until you clear it, but it doesn't 
 say it anymore.
 Lastly, I know you specifically said no new future request, but it'd be worth 
 while to briefly mention about creating a flexible database system that 
 manages all the presets for all the plugin with tagging system something like 
 Native Instrument Komplete. Komplete consists of many plugins with many 
 presets (total 17,000), but you can browse all of them in one browser and 
 load them easily. This would save a lot of time for any composers/producers 
 to find right sound without going through many different plugins with many 
 different presets.
 The current preset system for Pro Tools is so old style and not that 
 flexible, so many developers don't even bother and create their own instead.
 I'm sure this would require a lot of thought process to make it useful for 
 users, and easier for plugin developers to implement. However, if Avid pulls 
 it off well and markets it as a cool new feature, it would benefit everyone 
 regardless sighted or blind once the developers start taking advantage of it.
 Thanks for working with Avid on this important work.
 
 Chi
 
 On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of 
 Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's 
 a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, 
 as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't 
 bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. 
 Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal 
 themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the 
 sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-22 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi John,

Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue 
that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a 
control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up 
with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week 
and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.

The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver 
indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much 
like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as 
opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.

Hope that helps.

best,

Slau

On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote:

 Hello Slau,
 
 Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I 
 have.
 
 First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable 
 to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is setting up a 
 click track.
 
 Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding 
 the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied to bounce a 
 session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor.
 
 Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.
 
 John
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of 
 Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's 
 a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, 
 as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't 
 bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. 
 Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal 
 themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the 
 sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-22 Thread Gordon Kent
   Is there any hope for structure?  That is an 
Avid virtual instrument, isn't it?  Also, it would be nice to be able to 
adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values 
directly.

Keep up the good work Slau!
Gord

-Original Message- 
From: Slau Halatyn

Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

Hi John,

Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue 
that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via 
a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can 
come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town 
this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while.


The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver 
indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, 
much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button 
as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state.


Hope that helps.

best,

Slau

On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote:


Hello Slau,

Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I 
have.


First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am 
unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC.  This of course is 
setting up a click track.


Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way 
finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor?  Tryied to 
bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input 
monitor.


Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback.

John



On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. 
Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to 
be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 
12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the 
beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused 
on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect 
the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts 
and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
care of in one marathon session of tweaks.


I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people 
to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. 
That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. 
These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed 
quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking 
existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and 
we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The 
sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.


Thanks,

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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-18 Thread Vincenzo Rubano
Hi Slau,

my two cents would be to make sure that protools|First, the free version of 
protools Avid is going to release anytime soon, gets the same accessibility 
level of the standard Protools 12.

Vincenzo.

 Il giorno 16/mar/2015, alle ore 15:41, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com 
 ha scritto:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with 
 a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
 circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
 barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
 largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
 to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
 address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with 
 VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are 
 displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of 
 such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of 
 tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a 
 bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I 
 said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring 
 up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me 
 your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as 
 the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can 
 prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-18 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Vincenzo,

Pro Tools First is based on Pro Tools 11 so the accessibility will be largely 
the same. That said, the focus for this session will be on Pro Tools 12.

Cheers,

Slau

On Mar 18, 2015, at 6:16 AM, Vincenzo Rubano vincenzorub...@email.it wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 
 my two cents would be to make sure that protools|First, the free version of 
 protools Avid is going to release anytime soon, gets the same accessibility 
 level of the standard Protools 12.
 
 Vincenzo.
 
 Il giorno 16/mar/2015, alle ore 15:41, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com 
 ha scritto:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of 
 Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's 
 a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, 
 as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't 
 bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. 
 Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal 
 themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the 
 sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12; VCA solution.

2015-03-17 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi André,

You can control that group with a VCA  VCA track
That is if you have a pt system with that track option.
Just tell that vca track to use that group you created then you can interact 
with the vca volume using voiceover and turn it up or down or mute or solo or 
write automation using that vca, its extremely convenient! :)
I use VCA tracks all the time for that purpose. :)
YMMV
Chuck

On Mar 17, 2015, at 10:43 AM, John André Lium-Netland wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 
 Sure, if you create a group containing a number of tracks, you will be able 
 to mute/solo all the tracks by pressing the solo or mute button for one of 
 the tracks, just as you would expect. but if you change the volume or send 
 level by interacting with a fader, the volume or send level will not change 
 for the other tracks in the group. In our previous discussion, you assumed 
 this was due to the fact that VoiceOver interacted with the fader, instead of 
 actualy moving it, like you do when you use a surface.
 
 Best,
 John André
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-17 Thread TheOreoMonster
Anyone took a look at the workspace in version 11? It wasn't
accessible in version 9/10  and is the main reason i switched over to
Reaper since i work with loops alot. Workspace in PT is the only way
to effeciently add loops to a project in PT and have them
automatically snap to the project tempo. Sure there are clicking and
dragging workarounds or enabling elastic audio after a normal import
but this becomes tedius in a big session or when working with lots of
loops. That and there are other useful areas in the workspace view as
well. Probably the largest part of the program still inaccessible to
us if it is still so in V11.

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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-17 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hi Slau,

My bad, I should've written bundled instead of stock. I'm thinking of
the Air stuff in particular anything synthy where we've still got to
go through and recreate presets in the format PT likes. Thinking about
it though, are those plugs even developed in-house? I suspect not.

Scott


On 3/17/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Scott,

 When speaking of stock plug-ins, I'm not sure what you're referring to in
 terms of them not being accessible. Give me an example.

 Thanks,

 Slau

 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Slau,

 My top 3 biggies would be a boozy heckle of ain't that the truth, you
 tell 'em sister when you mentioned inserts/sends, improved tracking
 between the location of the play head and VO focus in the MIDI event
 list, and anything at all that can be done to improve GUI elements of
 Avid stock plugins which aren't currently accessible natively. If this
 is all too much big picture stuff, shout and I'll be more specific or
 substitute for smaller niggles.

 Cheers

 Scott

 On 3/16/15, HF hermanfer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Slau,

 You have probably covered the really important things for the rest of
 us.

 One thing for me that is important and this could just be a workflow
 thing that I haven't quite nailed down is using the comping keyboard
 shortcut in playlist view. Right now comping consists of navigating to
 playlist button, copying what we want, navigating to playlist button
 again, selecting master playlist and pasting in. That's four steps or
 five.. In playlist view, it consist of auditioning alternative
 takes/lanes, making a selection and promoting with one keystroke to the
 master playlist.

 HF

 On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
 down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
 Under
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools
 12.
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on
 day
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the
 use
 of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be
 taken
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but
 I
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of
 the
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for
 people
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track.
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution.
 These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed
 quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking
 existing
 issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see
 which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you
 get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

 Thanks,

 Slau


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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-17 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Steve,

I don't have any version of 9 or 10 handy but I seem to remember one couldn't 
see anything in the Workspace browser. In Pro Tools 11, there are visible items 
within the window although I don't feel that they are particularly well 
handled. That said, I'm not personally up on the whole workspace workflow.

Slau

On Mar 17, 2015, at 2:45 PM, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone took a look at the workspace in version 11? It wasn't
 accessible in version 9/10  and is the main reason i switched over to
 Reaper since i work with loops alot. Workspace in PT is the only way
 to effeciently add loops to a project in PT and have them
 automatically snap to the project tempo. Sure there are clicking and
 dragging workarounds or enabling elastic audio after a normal import
 but this becomes tedius in a big session or when working with lots of
 loops. That and there are other useful areas in the workspace view as
 well. Probably the largest part of the program still inaccessible to
 us if it is still so in V11.
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-17 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Scott,

I'm not sure exactly what you mean. All factory presets are available in the 
AIR stuff. I tried a few of them. Which one, for example, doesn't come up with 
factory presets for you? Of course, with Structure, there have been presets 
made. The whole preset browsing thing is kind of a big issue although maybe 
we'll have a bit of progress on that front.

Slau

On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 
 My bad, I should've written bundled instead of stock. I'm thinking of
 the Air stuff in particular anything synthy where we've still got to
 go through and recreate presets in the format PT likes. Thinking about
 it though, are those plugs even developed in-house? I suspect not.
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 3/17/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 When speaking of stock plug-ins, I'm not sure what you're referring to in
 terms of them not being accessible. Give me an example.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Slau,
 
 My top 3 biggies would be a boozy heckle of ain't that the truth, you
 tell 'em sister when you mentioned inserts/sends, improved tracking
 between the location of the play head and VO focus in the MIDI event
 list, and anything at all that can be done to improve GUI elements of
 Avid stock plugins which aren't currently accessible natively. If this
 is all too much big picture stuff, shout and I'll be more specific or
 substitute for smaller niggles.
 
 Cheers
 
 Scott
 
 On 3/16/15, HF hermanfer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Slau,
 
 You have probably covered the really important things for the rest of
 us.
 
 One thing for me that is important and this could just be a workflow
 thing that I haven't quite nailed down is using the comping keyboard
 shortcut in playlist view. Right now comping consists of navigating to
 playlist button, copying what we want, navigating to playlist button
 again, selecting master playlist and pasting in. That's four steps or
 five.. In playlist view, it consist of auditioning alternative
 takes/lanes, making a selection and promoting with one keystroke to the
 master playlist.
 
 HF
 
 On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit
 down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools.
 Under
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools
 12.
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on
 day
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the
 use
 of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be
 taken
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but
 I
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of
 the
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for
 people
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track.
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution.
 These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed
 quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking
 existing
 issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see
 which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you
 get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-17 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, Not sure if this is something you can address but one thing I wish 
to do that I can't do with voiceover is if I have more then one 
interface connected a sited person told me that you can link them 
together so you can use microphone inputs one and two on one interface 
and three and four on another interface then you could have the output 
go to the mac internal card if it is running with headphones connected 
or speakers or to the internal speakers provided the volumes are low.  
This is something I would like to do as well as other people I am sure.  
Nick Gawronski


On 3/17/2015 5:55 AM, John André Lium-Netland wrote:

Hi Slau,

In a previous thread, we discussed that when using VoiceOver, it was not 
possible to control the volume of grouped tracks. If possible, I would like 
this to be fixed.

Also, the procedure of changing input/output/bus names in the I/O window is 
still not easy to do, even though it works better than before.

Best,
John André



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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-17 Thread Slau Halatyn
OK, thanks for that. I'll recreate it again and see if something can be done.

Slau

On Mar 17, 2015, at 10:43 AM, John André Lium-Netland eml...@a-pro-studio.no 
wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 
 Sure, if you create a group containing a number of tracks, you will be able 
 to mute/solo all the tracks by pressing the solo or mute button for one of 
 the tracks, just as you would expect. but if you change the volume or send 
 level by interacting with a fader, the volume or send level will not change 
 for the other tracks in the group. In our previous discussion, you assumed 
 this was due to the fact that VoiceOver interacted with the fader, instead of 
 actualy moving it, like you do when you use a surface.
 
 Best,
 John André
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-17 Thread John André Lium-Netland
Hi Slau,

Sure, if you create a group containing a number of tracks, you will be able to 
mute/solo all the tracks by pressing the solo or mute button for one of the 
tracks, just as you would expect. but if you change the volume or send level by 
interacting with a fader, the volume or send level will not change for the 
other tracks in the group. In our previous discussion, you assumed this was due 
to the fact that VoiceOver interacted with the fader, instead of actualy moving 
it, like you do when you use a surface.

Best,
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12; VCA solution.

2015-03-17 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Ahoy Jerry!
I guess you didn't read my  whole reply??? ;)
Here is the key line again just incase you missed it which apparently you did! 
:)
That is if you have a pt system with that track option
Is it still chill en up there?
Chuck
On Mar 17, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 Chuck forgets that not everybody has an HD system so just keep that in mind.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12; VCA solution.

2015-03-17 Thread Slau Halatyn
No, I did read your response and you know exactly who has an HD system so stop 
offering advice that serves nobody. Also, are you trying to offend me by 
calling me Jerry? Nice.

Slau

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wrote:

 Ahoy Jerry!
 I guess you didn't read my  whole reply??? ;)
 Here is the key line again just incase you missed it which apparently you 
 did! :)
 That is if you have a pt system with that track option
 Is it still chill en up there?
 Chuck
 On Mar 17, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 Chuck forgets that not everybody has an HD system so just keep that in mind.
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12; VCA solution.

2015-03-17 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi John,

Chuck forgets that not everybody has an HD system so just keep that in mind.

Slau

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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread HF

Slau,

You have probably covered the really important things for the rest of us.

One thing for me that is important and this could just be a workflow 
thing that I haven't quite nailed down is using the comping keyboard 
shortcut in playlist view. Right now comping consists of navigating to 
playlist button, copying what we want, navigating to playlist button 
again, selecting master playlist and pasting in. That's four steps or 
five.. In playlist view, it consist of auditioning alternative 
takes/lanes, making a selection and promoting with one keystroke to the 
master playlist.


HF

On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a 
programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. 
For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is 
simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues 
that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list 
is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity 
and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a 
different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish 
to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, 
quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up 
issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your 
top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the 
biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

Thanks,

Slau



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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hi Slau,

My top 3 biggies would be a boozy heckle of ain't that the truth, you
tell 'em sister when you mentioned inserts/sends, improved tracking
between the location of the play head and VO focus in the MIDI event
list, and anything at all that can be done to improve GUI elements of
Avid stock plugins which aren't currently accessible natively. If this
is all too much big picture stuff, shout and I'll be more specific or
substitute for smaller niggles.

Cheers

Scott

On 3/16/15, HF hermanfer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Slau,

 You have probably covered the really important things for the rest of us.

 One thing for me that is important and this could just be a workflow
 thing that I haven't quite nailed down is using the comping keyboard
 shortcut in playlist view. Right now comping consists of navigating to
 playlist button, copying what we want, navigating to playlist button
 again, selecting master playlist and pasting in. That's four steps or
 five.. In playlist view, it consist of auditioning alternative
 takes/lanes, making a selection and promoting with one keystroke to the
 master playlist.

 HF

 On 3/16/2015 10:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12.
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use
 of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track.
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution.
 These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed
 quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing
 issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see
 which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you
 get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

 Thanks,

 Slau


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RE: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Poppa Bear
Thanks Slau. I have found myself thinking about convenient keystrokes and have 
to keep reminding myself of what you have reiterated about separating new 
features from bug fixes. Thanks for being patient with the flock. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:58 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

Papa,

It's a modifier thing. Command-clicking tracks selects non-contiguous tracks. 
Hope that helps.

Slau

On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Slau, I read one message about this and did not see any replies. Is it now 
 possible to select non contiguous tracks? This would be a nice time savor 
 when flying hooks around and making other edits. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Nick Gawronski
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 9:52 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
 
 Hi, One thing you might want to look into talking about is the ability to use 
 the clip list where as a sited person can go into it and move a clip of audio 
 back on to an existing track but I have not been able to do this in pro tools 
 11.  Completely recreating or deleting tracks I don't think is the best 
 option when you or the people you are working with like things to be in one 
 order and when you do things like make new tracks that does not fix things.  
 Better support for using elastic audio such as the ability after it moves 
 audio if you need to do manual moves I have not been able to do this.  One 
 other thing is the ability using the keyboard to move tracks around and 
 changing the hight and where voiceover will speak the information as 
 currently nothing happens.  What would it take for you to bring up these 
 issues as a student if there are major accessibility improovments I would 
 gladly upgrade to version 12? 
 Nick Gawronski
 
 On 3/16/2015 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of 
 Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's 
 a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, 
 as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't 
 bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. 
 Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal 
 themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the 
 sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
I have worked so little with PT so i can’t say what is or is not possible to 
fix in this session you’re going to have so before i phrase my question let me 
ask this: Is the menus where you select presets a protools or a plugin 
developer issue? If it lies on pro tools then i wish that the preset menu of 
the plugin became accessible so that i myself could call up and convert favorit 
presets to PT format in order to better work with them.
/Krister

 16 mar 2015 kl. 15:41 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with 
 a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
 circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
 barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
 largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
 to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
 address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with 
 VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are 
 displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of 
 such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of 
 tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a 
 bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I 
 said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring 
 up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me 
 your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as 
 the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can 
 prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Slau Halatyn
Let me be clear, folks. I'm not asking for suggestions for new features. Pro 
Tools works the way it does and we're not going to change that for VoiceOver 
users. I'm looking for input on inaccessible items, windows, buttons, tables, 
lists, etc. Please keep this in mind. Thanks!

Slau

On Mar 16, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Martin Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote:

 Hi Slau!
 
 A single key Stroke to unarm all armed tracks. No toggle just unarm to be on 
 the save side.
 The same for solo.
 
 A track reordering without drag'n'drop.
 
 Do you work with Mavericks or Yosemite?
 
 Best! / Martin
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Juan Pablo Culasso
Probably you said it in your first e-mail, Slau, if it is, please accept my 
apologies.

But the clip list is in my opinion a problem. I would like, for example, in a 
stereo track, passing a clip to the left chanel, for example. I don’t know if 
you consider this a feature or a thing that can become accessible.
best,
JP.
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 13:17, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Let me be clear, folks. I'm not asking for suggestions for new features. Pro 
 Tools works the way it does and we're not going to change that for VoiceOver 
 users. I'm looking for input on inaccessible items, windows, buttons, tables, 
 lists, etc. Please keep this in mind. Thanks!
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Martin Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote:
 
 Hi Slau!
 
 A single key Stroke to unarm all armed tracks. No toggle just unarm to be on 
 the save side.
 The same for solo.
 
 A track reordering without drag'n'drop.
 
 Do you work with Mavericks or Yosemite?
 
 Best! / Martin
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Slau Halatyn
What's not accessible about the MIDI Event List window? Please be specific.

Thanks

On Mar 16, 2015, at 10:47 AM, ashley cox ashleycox...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Personally, I’d like to see full MIDI accessibility (including events). I’d 
 also like to see an accessible Eleven Rack editor - but this is probably a 
 different thing altogether.
 
 
 On 16 Mar 2015, at 14:41, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of 
 Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's 
 a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, 
 as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't 
 bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. 
 Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal 
 themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the 
 sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Slau Halatyn
In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a 
programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. 
For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is 
simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues 
that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list 
is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity 
and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a 
different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish 
to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, 
quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up 
issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your 
top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the 
biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

Thanks,

Slau

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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread ashley cox
Personally, I’d like to see full MIDI accessibility (including events). I’d 
also like to see an accessible Eleven Rack editor - but this is probably a 
different thing altogether.


 On 16 Mar 2015, at 14:41, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with 
 a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
 circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
 barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
 largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
 to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
 address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with 
 VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are 
 displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of 
 such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of 
 tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a 
 bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I 
 said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring 
 up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me 
 your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as 
 the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can 
 prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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RE: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Martin Sopart
Hi Slau!

A single key Stroke to unarm all armed tracks. No toggle just unarm to be on 
the save side.
The same for solo.

A track reordering without drag'n'drop.

Do you work with Mavericks or Yosemite?

Best! / Martin

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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Krister,

That appears to be a Pro Tools issue and that is definitely on the list of 
things to try to fix.

Cheers,

Slau

On Mar 16, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I have worked so little with PT so i can’t say what is or is not possible to 
 fix in this session you’re going to have so before i phrase my question let 
 me ask this: Is the menus where you select presets a protools or a plugin 
 developer issue? If it lies on pro tools then i wish that the preset menu of 
 the plugin became accessible so that i myself could call up and convert 
 favorit presets to PT format in order to better work with them.
 /Krister
 
 16 mar 2015 kl. 15:41 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of 
 Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's 
 a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, 
 as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't 
 bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. 
 Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal 
 themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the 
 sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Juan Pablo Culasso
Sure, Slau.

1.
I import 30 files, and I decide put all of this in the clips list.

2.

I just created a stereo track.

3.

I want to chose one file for the left chanel of this track and one other for 
the right chanel of this track.

Best, JP.
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 14:19, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Juan,
 
 Can you explain in further detail what it is that you cannot do? I need to 
 understand what you mean so I can either answer how it should behave or what 
 functionality is missing.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I have worked so little with PT so i can’t say what is or is not possible to 
 fix in this session you’re going to have so before i phrase my question let 
 me ask this: Is the menus where you select presets a protools or a plugin 
 developer issue? If it lies on pro tools then i wish that the preset menu of 
 the plugin became accessible so that i myself could call up and convert 
 favorit presets to PT format in order to better work with them.
 /Krister
 
 16 mar 2015 kl. 15:41 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of 
 Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people 
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. 
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. 
 These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. 
 Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in 
 version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to 
 reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, 
 the sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, One thing you might want to look into talking about is the ability 
to use the clip list where as a sited person can go into it and move a 
clip of audio back on to an existing track but I have not been able to 
do this in pro tools 11.  Completely recreating or deleting tracks I 
don't think is the best option when you or the people you are working 
with like things to be in one order and when you do things like make new 
tracks that does not fix things.  Better support for using elastic audio 
such as the ability after it moves audio if you need to do manual moves 
I have not been able to do this.  One other thing is the ability using 
the keyboard to move tracks around and changing the hight and where 
voiceover will speak the information as currently nothing happens.  What 
would it take for you to bring up these issues as a student if there are 
major accessibility improovments I would gladly upgrade to version 12? 
Nick Gawronski


On 3/16/2015 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a 
programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. 
For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is 
simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues 
that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks.

I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list 
is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity 
and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a 
different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish 
to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, 
quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up 
issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your 
top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the 
biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.

Thanks,

Slau



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RE: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Poppa Bear
Slau, I read one message about this and did not see any replies. Is it now 
possible to select non contiguous tracks? This would be a nice time savor when 
flying hooks around and making other edits. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nick Gawronski
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 9:52 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

Hi, One thing you might want to look into talking about is the ability to use 
the clip list where as a sited person can go into it and move a clip of audio 
back on to an existing track but I have not been able to do this in pro tools 
11.  Completely recreating or deleting tracks I don't think is the best option 
when you or the people you are working with like things to be in one order and 
when you do things like make new tracks that does not fix things.  Better 
support for using elastic audio such as the ability after it moves audio if you 
need to do manual moves I have not been able to do this.  One other thing is 
the ability using the keyboard to move tracks around and changing the hight and 
where voiceover will speak the information as currently nothing happens.  What 
would it take for you to bring up these issues as a student if there are major 
accessibility improovments I would gladly upgrade to version 12? 
Nick Gawronski

On 3/16/2015 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with 
 a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the 
 circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled 
 barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be 
 largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted 
 to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to 
 address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with 
 VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are 
 displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of 
 such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of 
 tweaks.

 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a 
 bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I 
 said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring 
 up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me 
 your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as 
 the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can 
 prepare.

 Thanks,

 Slau


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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Slau Halatyn
Papa,

It's a modifier thing. Command-clicking tracks selects non-contiguous tracks. 
Hope that helps.

Slau

On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Slau, I read one message about this and did not see any replies. Is it now 
 possible to select non contiguous tracks? This would be a nice time savor 
 when flying hooks around and making other edits. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Nick Gawronski
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 9:52 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
 
 Hi, One thing you might want to look into talking about is the ability to use 
 the clip list where as a sited person can go into it and move a clip of audio 
 back on to an existing track but I have not been able to do this in pro tools 
 11.  Completely recreating or deleting tracks I don't think is the best 
 option when you or the people you are working with like things to be in one 
 order and when you do things like make new tracks that does not fix things.  
 Better support for using elastic audio such as the ability after it moves 
 audio if you need to do manual moves I have not been able to do this.  One 
 other thing is the ability using the keyboard to move tracks around and 
 changing the hight and where voiceover will speak the information as 
 currently nothing happens.  What would it take for you to bring up these 
 issues as a student if there are major accessibility improovments I would 
 gladly upgrade to version 12? 
 Nick Gawronski
 
 On 3/16/2015 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of 
 Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to 
 suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's 
 a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, 
 as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't 
 bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. 
 Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal 
 themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the 
 sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
 
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Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12

2015-03-16 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Juan,

Ah, OK, thanks for the clarification. Stereo tracks cannot be comprised of two 
separate left and right audio files of different origin. In other words, they 
must be of the same length, name and have the .l and .r extensions. So, if 
you're proposing the dragging of two different file types, this cannot be 
accomplished by anyone. However, if you're talking about stereo files, that is 
another issue. Yes, as I mentioned, this is an entirely different proposition 
and cannot be fixed in a day. There are workarounds that have been posted 
previously. At some point, I'll post again but I can't devote any time to this 
issue right now.

Cheers,

Slau

On Mar 16, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Juan Pablo Culasso jpcula...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sure, Slau.
 
 1.
 I import 30 files, and I decide put all of this in the clips list.
 
 2.
 
 I just created a stereo track.
 
 3.
 
 I want to chose one file for the left chanel of this track and one other for 
 the right chanel of this track.
 
 Best, JP.
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 14:19, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Juan,
 
 Can you explain in further detail what it is that you cannot do? I need to 
 understand what you mean so I can either answer how it should behave or what 
 functionality is missing.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I have worked so little with PT so i can’t say what is or is not possible 
 to fix in this session you’re going to have so before i phrase my question 
 let me ask this: Is the menus where you select presets a protools or a 
 plugin developer issue? If it lies on pro tools then i wish that the preset 
 menu of the plugin became accessible so that i myself could call up and 
 convert favorit presets to PT format in order to better work with them.
 /Krister
 
 16 mar 2015 kl. 15:41 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com:
 
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down 
 with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under 
 the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be 
 scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. 
 This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta 
 system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day 
 to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use 
 of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in 
 particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be 
 overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken 
 care of in one marathon session of tweaks.
 
 I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I 
 thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the 
 list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their 
 productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people 
 to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. 
 That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. 
 These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed 
 quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing 
 issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see 
 which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you 
 get those to me, the sooner I can prepare.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
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