Re: [pygame] Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard Support
Yes, that is what it does actually. The reason for need a new port for pygame was partially because I just removed the dependency on pyobjc completely, and let it use the system one. --Noah Brian Fisher wrote: That sounds like great work, Noah I haven't tried to run it myself, but it looks like you've got a ports file for PyObjC 1.4 there - the system python on leopard should have PyObjC 2.0 built into it (looks like one could get source here: http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/tags/r200-leopard ), so I imagine there must be some way to get a pygame to run with PyObjC 2.0 On Dec 12, 2007 9:28 PM, Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a set of macports port files that will allow installing on Leopard. The only weird thing you need to do is add the macports site-packages folder to the sys.path for the system python 2.5. The easiest way to do this is to add /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/macports.pth containing the text /opt/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages. After that make sure to enable the new ports (/opt/local/etc/macports/sources.conf) and just `port install py25-game`. I don't think I did anything else special, but if nothing else this should be a running start. --Noah Nathan wrote: On Dec 12, 2007 8:39 PM, Brian Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering about all the Leopard support questions recently, wouldn't the python 2.4 packages here: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/index.html all work on leopard? Not in the case of PyObjC. The PyObjC people very bluntly told me that PyObjC isn't for Leopard, period. I really don't know much more than that. I'm going to go ahead and take myself off this list. Thanks for any help and hints people have given me over the years. It appears that pygame-on-leopard is not a priority, and I've converted all my active projects to use pyglet (which I really like), and I'm having fun learning OpenGL as a side-benefit of that switch. Later! ~ Nathan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [pygame] Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard Support
Is anyone able to update the wiki for Leopard compile instructions? http://pygame.org/wiki/MacCompile On Dec 16, 2007 10:37 PM, Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that is what it does actually. The reason for need a new port for pygame was partially because I just removed the dependency on pyobjc completely, and let it use the system one. --Noah Brian Fisher wrote: That sounds like great work, Noah I haven't tried to run it myself, but it looks like you've got a ports file for PyObjC 1.4 there - the system python on leopard should have PyObjC 2.0 built into it (looks like one could get source here: http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/tags/r200-leopard ), so I imagine there must be some way to get a pygame to run with PyObjC 2.0 On Dec 12, 2007 9:28 PM, Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a set of macports port files that will allow installing on Leopard. The only weird thing you need to do is add the macports site-packages folder to the sys.path for the system python 2.5. The easiest way to do this is to add /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/macports.pth containing the text /opt/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages. After that make sure to enable the new ports (/opt/local/etc/macports/sources.conf) and just `port install py25-game`. I don't think I did anything else special, but if nothing else this should be a running start. --Noah Nathan wrote: On Dec 12, 2007 8:39 PM, Brian Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering about all the Leopard support questions recently, wouldn't the python 2.4 packages here: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/index.html all work on leopard? Not in the case of PyObjC. The PyObjC people very bluntly told me that PyObjC isn't for Leopard, period. I really don't know much more than that. I'm going to go ahead and take myself off this list. Thanks for any help and hints people have given me over the years. It appears that pygame-on-leopard is not a priority, and I've converted all my active projects to use pyglet (which I really like), and I'm having fun learning OpenGL as a side-benefit of that switch. Later! ~ Nathan
Re: [pygame] Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard Support
I just upgraded my iMac to Leopard, and deleted my framework build of python 2.4 so I could test out the packages here: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/index.html I installed this: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/dmg/python-2.4.4-macosx2006-10-18.dmg then this: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/dmg/pyobjc-1.4-python2.4-macosx10.4.dmg then this: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/mpkg/pygame-1.8.0pre-py2.4-macosx10.4.zip and my pygame projects all work perfectly. The PyObjC installer had no problems. So as far as I can tell, the framework builds of python are a way that pygame will install and work just fine on leopard. ...I know it's not the 2.5 system python (which would be perferable), but Noah's macport fix on this list looks like it would achieve that. On Dec 12, 2007 9:07 PM, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wouldn't the python 2.4 packages here: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/index.html all work on leopard? Not in the case of PyObjC. The PyObjC people very bluntly told me that PyObjC isn't for Leopard, period. I really don't know much more than that. This sounds like FUD to me - If somebody tried to install PyObjC for the purposes of running pygame and ran into problems with it, I'm curious to hear what those specific problems were.
Re: [pygame] Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard Support
On Dec 15, 2007 3:51 PM, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, that was supposed to say Not in the case of PyObjC 1.4... Try installing it with macports. You'll get to experience the problems yourself. thanks for clearing up how to repro the problem you experienced (install through macports) hmmm... it sounds like it doesn't _build_ on leopard, as opposed to not run on leopard (maybe because leopard includes different devel libraries than tiger?). The problem may even be more with the macports config than anything about PyObjC 1.4 itself...? As I said before, a prebuilt PyObjC 1.4 worked perfectly fine for me on Leopard, and I expect it would for anyone using the matching python install (in this case a framework build of 2.4)
Re: [pygame] Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard Support
That sounds like great work, Noah I haven't tried to run it myself, but it looks like you've got a ports file for PyObjC 1.4 there - the system python on leopard should have PyObjC 2.0 built into it (looks like one could get source here: http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/tags/r200-leopard ), so I imagine there must be some way to get a pygame to run with PyObjC 2.0 On Dec 12, 2007 9:28 PM, Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a set of macports port files that will allow installing on Leopard. The only weird thing you need to do is add the macports site-packages folder to the sys.path for the system python 2.5. The easiest way to do this is to add /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/macports.pth containing the text /opt/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages. After that make sure to enable the new ports (/opt/local/etc/macports/sources.conf) and just `port install py25-game`. I don't think I did anything else special, but if nothing else this should be a running start. --Noah Nathan wrote: On Dec 12, 2007 8:39 PM, Brian Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering about all the Leopard support questions recently, wouldn't the python 2.4 packages here: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/index.html all work on leopard? Not in the case of PyObjC. The PyObjC people very bluntly told me that PyObjC isn't for Leopard, period. I really don't know much more than that. I'm going to go ahead and take myself off this list. Thanks for any help and hints people have given me over the years. It appears that pygame-on-leopard is not a priority, and I've converted all my active projects to use pyglet (which I really like), and I'm having fun learning OpenGL as a side-benefit of that switch. Later! ~ Nathan
Re: [pygame] Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard Support
I was wondering about all the Leopard support questions recently, wouldn't the python 2.4 packages here: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py24-fat/index.html all work on leopard? I know it's not python 2.5, and not the system python, but it shouldn't have any of the pyobjc problems (cause of the pyObjc 1.4 package on the site above) On Dec 10, 2007 4:11 AM, Olle Olsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. What's the statup of PyGame for Leopard? Compiling with Macports or Fink doesn't work due to the dependancy on PyObjC. PyObjC got re-written for Leopard and is now v2.0. It is included with the OS version of Python (v1.4 simply won't compile under Leopard). The OS Python version ofcourse lacks other stuff that pygame needs like numeric and SDL. One strange detail is that PyObjC's sourceforge page hasn't been updated to reflect the v2.0 re-write. Maybe that's why the fink people can't the pygame build work for leopard. Anyways, if any of you guys got pygame running under leopard, please tell how. If you know anything that might help on the matter, please also tell :) _ Spara, redigera och organisera dina foton enkelt med Photo Gallery! http://get.live.com/photogallery/overview
Re: [pygame] Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard Support
I've asked the same thing twice on this list, and gotten zero response. I also asked the macports people for help, zero response. I also asked the PyObjC people for help, and basically got PyObjC 2 is included with Leopard, duh as a response - as if that somehow helps. I've since discovered and migrated half of my projects to pyglet, ( http://pyglet.org ). One binary OS X installer, no dependencies, and it works with the system python (so I don't have to worry about macports, hooray!). YMMV. The PyObjC people said their pages haven't been updated because (basically) they're busy. If you're dead set on using pygame, I do know that you can copy a Tiger macports installation of pygame, and it will work. I didn't go that route, because I wanted to use python 2.5 and I found pyglet to be easier to use anyway. ~ Nathan On Dec 10, 2007 5:11 AM, Olle Olsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. What's the statup of PyGame for Leopard? Compiling with Macports or Fink doesn't work due to the dependancy on PyObjC. PyObjC got re-written for Leopard and is now v2.0. It is included with the OS version of Python (v1.4 simply won't compile under Leopard). The OS Python version ofcourse lacks other stuff that pygame needs like numeric and SDL. One strange detail is that PyObjC's sourceforge page hasn't been updated to reflect the v2.0 re-write. Maybe that's why the fink people can't the pygame build work for leopard. Anyways, if any of you guys got pygame running under leopard, please tell how. If you know anything that might help on the matter, please also tell :) _ Spara, redigera och organisera dina foton enkelt med Photo Gallery! http://get.live.com/photogallery/overview
