Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-05 Thread Georg Brandl
Christian Heimes schrieb:
 Georg Brandl schrieb:
 David Goodger schrieb:
 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 14:56, R. David Murrayrdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
 I can see it now...the TV and movie track at PyCon 2010,
 with attendance mandatory for anyone wanting to participate
 in the Core sprint...
 We actually had a room or two for evening videos at a PyCon (both?) in
 Dallas. Somebody brought the boxed set of the Flying Circus show and
 had it running. I fondly recall processing email while chuckling...

 It wasn't very well attended though.
 
 There is a slight chance that EuroPython 2011 might come to Germany --
 in this case, some kind of Monty Python showing must be arranged.  As
 you all know, we really can use the education.
 
 Georg, I suggest that you get a head start by watching these youtube
 clips: http://www.youtube.com/user/MontyPython

Oh, myself I'm already quite familiar with the classics.  But can you
imagine people walking the streets out there not knowing anything about
dead parrots?

 Are there already plans in which city EP11 might be hosted? You know
 Spamalot is playing in Cologne, too. :)

Cologne is exactly where one group is planning to make it happen.  I
assume a discussion and planning list, whether for EP or for a smaller
German unconference, is going to be created soon.

Georg

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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le jeudi 02 juillet 2009 à 11:43 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
 
 Considering Georg just discovered Fawlty Towers I think we might need
 to have required British humour training for all core committers.

I object to the British humour monopoly. I know as a fact that Georg
likes French humour a lot -- actually I'm sure he's still launghing.

Regards

Antoine.


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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-03 Thread Georg Brandl
David Goodger schrieb:
 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 14:56, R. David Murrayrdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
 I can see it now...the TV and movie track at PyCon 2010,
 with attendance mandatory for anyone wanting to participate
 in the Core sprint...
 
 We actually had a room or two for evening videos at a PyCon (both?) in
 Dallas. Somebody brought the boxed set of the Flying Circus show and
 had it running. I fondly recall processing email while chuckling...
 
 It wasn't very well attended though.

There is a slight chance that EuroPython 2011 might come to Germany --
in this case, some kind of Monty Python showing must be arranged.  As
you all know, we really can use the education.

Georg

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Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy
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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-03 Thread Christian Heimes
Georg Brandl schrieb:
 David Goodger schrieb:
 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 14:56, R. David Murrayrdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
 I can see it now...the TV and movie track at PyCon 2010,
 with attendance mandatory for anyone wanting to participate
 in the Core sprint...
 We actually had a room or two for evening videos at a PyCon (both?) in
 Dallas. Somebody brought the boxed set of the Flying Circus show and
 had it running. I fondly recall processing email while chuckling...

 It wasn't very well attended though.
 
 There is a slight chance that EuroPython 2011 might come to Germany --
 in this case, some kind of Monty Python showing must be arranged.  As
 you all know, we really can use the education.

Georg, I suggest that you get a head start by watching these youtube
clips: http://www.youtube.com/user/MontyPython

Are there already plans in which city EP11 might be hosted? You know
Spamalot is playing in Cologne, too. :)

Christian
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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-02 Thread Jesus Cea
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Anthony Baxter wrote:
 Speaking as a past release manager, the reason that things like that
 didn't get merged is because... drumroll... no-one merged them.

Ughhh. This is actually a good reason to migrate to mercurial, were
merges are painless :-).

 It's another tree to checkout and patch. Personally, I was always of the
 belief that if someone wanted to fix docs (or comments, or other things
 like that) in a maintenance branch, more power to them.

I already have the checkouts for the maintained branches. I will try to
merge that patch, although it is old and will probably generate a ton of
conflicts. Let's see...

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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-02 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2009/7/2 Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmo...@in-nomine.org:
 -On [20090702 17:15], Jesus Cea (j...@jcea.es) wrote:
Ughhh. This is actually a good reason to migrate to mercurial, were
merges are painless :-).

 For all I know Mercurial doesn't make the issue of resolving content merges
 easier, so that would make your comment moot.

They're about 2^987987979 times faster, though than with svnmerge.py.



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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-02 Thread Jesus Cea
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Benjamin Peterson wrote:
 2009/7/2 Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmo...@in-nomine.org:
 -On [20090702 17:15], Jesus Cea (j...@jcea.es) wrote:
 Ughhh. This is actually a good reason to migrate to mercurial, were
 merges are painless :-).
 For all I know Mercurial doesn't make the issue of resolving content merges
 easier, so that would make your comment moot.
 
 They're about 2^987987979 times faster, though than with svnmerge.py.

And you don't forget any merge, because you commit to the maintenance
and then merge to the trunk.

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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-02 Thread Brett Cannon
2009/7/2 Anthony Baxter anthonybax...@gmail.com

 The particulars of the revision control system don't matter as much as the
 discipline of teaching people to commit fixes. Right now, we have 2.6.x,
 3.0.x and 3.1.x.


If I remember correctly I believe we decided at the language summit that 3.0
is just dead now that 3.1 is out and we shouldn't even bother with another
point release since 3.1 followed 3.0 so closely and didn't introduce any new
syntax or tweak semantics.




 On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven 
 asmo...@in-nomine.org wrote:

 -On [20090702 17:15], Jesus Cea (j...@jcea.es) wrote:
 Ughhh. This is actually a good reason to migrate to mercurial, were
 merges are painless :-).

 For all I know Mercurial doesn't make the issue of resolving content
 merges
 easier, so that would make your comment moot.

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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-02 Thread Barry Warsaw

On Jul 2, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:

If I remember correctly I believe we decided at the language summit  
that 3.0
is just dead now that 3.1 is out and we shouldn't even bother with  
another
point release since 3.1 followed 3.0 so closely and didn't introduce  
any new

syntax or tweak semantics.


Right.  There have been rumblings of wanting a 3.0.2, and I could do  
it if the clamor were loud enough, but I still think we don't need one.


-Barry



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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-02 Thread Barry Warsaw

On Jul 2, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:

If Barry is up for it I am not against it, but if we do go with it I  
think it should be a quickie release and then retire 3.0.x completely.


It's not difficult to actually cut the release.  What is a pain is  
managing all the bugs leading up to it.  If we announce that we're  
going to do a 3.0.2, people who thought 3.0 was dead may ask for their  
favorite bug fix to be backported, etc.


If we're going to do one, then we'll need to schedule it and give  
people a chance to actually commit to it for a few weeks.  We may even  
need to do release candidates.


TBH, I'm not sure there's enough interest in doing it.  We're not  
recommending people actually /use/ 3.0, and I know for one data point  
that Ubuntu doesn't care.


-Barry



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Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to release26-maint?

2009-07-02 Thread Steve Holden
Brett Cannon wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:42, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org
 mailto:ba...@python.org wrote:
 
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Anthony Baxter wrote:
 
 I think Barry should totally cut a completely pointless 3.0.2
 release. We
 can call it the homage to 1.6 release.
 
 
 We can code name it Here Comes Another One (guess that reference!)
 
 
 god-I've-been-involved-with-python-too-long/
 
 
 too-much-monty-python-as-a-child-ly y'rs
 
 
 Considering Georg just discovered Fawlty Towers I think we might need to
 have required British humour training for all core committers.
 
It was kind of thrust in our faces at the EuroPython meeting this week.
At dinner the table I was sitting on was entitled Ministry of Silly
Walks. If ever there's a Python certification it should definitely
involve knowing *something* about that series ;-)

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