Re: [Ql-Users] XTC68 Status Report
If I remember right, there can be a 30% increase in speed. I am not sure if this is correct, but I am sure that Prowess running faster when compiled with XTC68. Derek Adrian D. Ives wrote: Urs, As you said, to the QL community it means "Just" that one can compile QDOS-programs under Windows. This is useful, however, for those only running emulators, because it means compilation can happen at the full speed of the native OS' CPU, rather than the (admittedly very efficient) emulated 68000. I have looked at the GCC story, and I did consider trying to get that solution to run under Windows, but the problem is that GCC has moved on a bit since then. I think the current version is 4.4.2 or thereabouts. Anyway, on to your other questions: 1. Yes - except you have to recreate the QDOS file header (file type and dataspace) once you get the file onto a QDOS volume. 2. No 3. I have done no meaningful performance comparisons or benchmarks under QDOS, simply because the answer to question 1 is yes. It's just the C68 compiler running under Win32, the executables it produces are the same as those produced under QDOS by the same version of C68. Regards, Adrian --- On Monday, October 26, 2009, 12:07:01 PM, you wrote: UKQ> Sounds like a great job! UKQ> But I never was much in C (my only C experience was on GST's UKQ> Small C way back in the 80s) and therefore I have no clue UKQ> about it. So what does this mean to the QL community? UKQ> "Just" that one can compile QDOS-programs under Windows? UKQ> If so, what about such compiled programs? UKQ> 1. Are the binaries 1:1 (file compare)? UKQ> 2. If not, any increase in performance under QDOS? UKQ> 3. If so, what about Dhrystone v2.1? UKQ> What about the GCC story of Thierry Godefroy then? UKQ> http://morloch.hd.free.fr/qdos/download.html#QDOSGCC UKQ> Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
Hi George I have windows XP on a 1680x1050 resolution and QPC2 - 3.13 on an 800x600 resolution. CTRL/Shift/F12 pops the QPC2 window to cover the complete XP display Duncan -Original Message- From: gdgqler To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:11 Subject: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators
John Taylor wrote, On 26/10/09 17:26: George I have an Intel iMac using Snow Leopard networked with a Laptop G4 and an Epson printer, all networked wirelessly to a BT Modem. No problems with Airport either. I cannot speak about Microsoft emulation because I have no use for it. Most of the problems were with printer drivers. Apple supplied Gutenprint replacements and the old Epson driver had to be removed first. Epson are now supplying updated printer drivers but many will not be available until well into November. I have been using Gutenprint drivers for three years and they are far superior to the standard drivers produced by the manufacturers. They are available in Mac or PC versions. John Taylor John - can you email me privately as the *two* email addresses I have for you are dead. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony ATfirshman DOT co DOT uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
gdgqler schreef: I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm QPC2 works fine with a scrren size of 1680x945 (vista). I don't know about Shift/CTRL/F12 as I have never used it. François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
gdgqler wrote: > I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. > The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. It has? I'm currently not aware of any practical limits, except memory of course. What resolution did you try? > The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was > accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Sounds more like a graphic driver problem to me. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators
George I have an Intel iMac using Snow Leopard networked with a Laptop G4 and an Epson printer, all networked wirelessly to a BT Modem. No problems with Airport either. I cannot speak about Microsoft emulation because I have no use for it. Most of the problems were with printer drivers. Apple supplied Gutenprint replacements and the old Epson driver had to be removed first. Epson are now supplying updated printer drivers but many will not be available until well into November. I have been using Gutenprint drivers for three years and they are far superior to the standard drivers produced by the manufacturers. They are available in Mac or PC versions. John Taylor On 26 Oct 2009, at 14:49, gdgqler wrote: On 26 Oct 2009, at 14:43, Darren Branagh wrote: Good point Dil, never used this one myself. Plus, for Mac users with a bang up to date Mac (ie. not me!) if you have a Intel chip Mac, as opposed to a power PC based system, you can just use Bootcamp or Parallels, Vrtual PC or similar, and run Windows XP/Vista/7 on the Mac - and I would think QPC should run on that, ie. an emulator running on an emulator? Steve Reyal has a new Mac running vista - very quickly too - care to try QPC on it Steve?? It seems however that almost everyone who has the latest OS X (Snow Leopard) has very poor, or no, wireless connection through Airport. Ethernet will work though. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators
On 26 Oct 2009, at 14:43, Darren Branagh wrote: Good point Dil, never used this one myself. Plus, for Mac users with a bang up to date Mac (ie. not me!) if you have a Intel chip Mac, as opposed to a power PC based system, you can just use Bootcamp or Parallels, Vrtual PC or similar, and run Windows XP/Vista/7 on the Mac - and I would think QPC should run on that, ie. an emulator running on an emulator? Steve Reyal has a new Mac running vista - very quickly too - care to try QPC on it Steve?? It seems however that almost everyone who has the latest OS X (Snow Leopard) has very poor, or no, wireless connection through Airport. Ethernet will work though. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators
Good point Dil, never used this one myself. Plus, for Mac users with a bang up to date Mac (ie. not me!) if you have a Intel chip Mac, as opposed to a power PC based system, you can just use Bootcamp or Parallels, Vrtual PC or similar, and run Windows XP/Vista/7 on the Mac - and I would think QPC should run on that, ie. an emulator running on an emulator? Steve Reyal has a new Mac running vista - very quickly too - care to try QPC on it Steve?? Darren. On 10/26/09, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > There is also a version of uQLx for Mac, by James Weatherley, which > used to be on Phoebus's website. Not being a Mac user, I have no idea > if this works on current Macs (like the OSX systems). Anyone know? I > could then post the info on my website. > > Dilwyn Jones > > - Original Message - > From: "Rich Mellor" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:38 AM > Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators > > >> >> Hi, >> >> Which emulators work on the latest OSX? >> >> A customer wants to play some QL games on such an emulator, but I >> can't >> for the life of me think which ones work - presume OSX is Mac >> operating >> system? >> >> Rich >> http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk >> >> ___ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm >> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2459 - Release Date: > 10/25/09 19:57:00 > > > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] XTC68 Status Report
Urs, As you said, to the QL community it means "Just" that one can compile QDOS-programs under Windows. This is useful, however, for those only running emulators, because it means compilation can happen at the full speed of the native OS' CPU, rather than the (admittedly very efficient) emulated 68000. I have looked at the GCC story, and I did consider trying to get that solution to run under Windows, but the problem is that GCC has moved on a bit since then. I think the current version is 4.4.2 or thereabouts. Anyway, on to your other questions: 1. Yes - except you have to recreate the QDOS file header (file type and dataspace) once you get the file onto a QDOS volume. 2. No 3. I have done no meaningful performance comparisons or benchmarks under QDOS, simply because the answer to question 1 is yes. It's just the C68 compiler running under Win32, the executables it produces are the same as those produced under QDOS by the same version of C68. Regards, Adrian --- On Monday, October 26, 2009, 12:07:01 PM, you wrote: UKQ> Sounds like a great job! UKQ> But I never was much in C (my only C experience was on GST's UKQ> Small C way back in the 80s) and therefore I have no clue UKQ> about it. So what does this mean to the QL community? UKQ> "Just" that one can compile QDOS-programs under Windows? UKQ> If so, what about such compiled programs? UKQ> 1. Are the binaries 1:1 (file compare)? UKQ> 2. If not, any increase in performance under QDOS? UKQ> 3. If so, what about Dhrystone v2.1? UKQ> What about the GCC story of Thierry Godefroy then? UKQ> http://morloch.hd.free.fr/qdos/download.html#QDOSGCC UKQ> Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] XTC68 Status Report
> Just to close off my original request, I have now > successfully recompiled C68 (as XTC68) under Open Watcom C > Version 1.8 and MinGW (Minimalist GNU for Windows) GCC 3.4.5. > The latter version is useful because it integrates very well > with the MinGW environment and allows MinGW Make to be used > to build QDOS C projects in exactly the same way as C/C++ > projects for Win32. Sounds like a great job! But I never was much in C (my only C experience was on GST's Small C way back in the 80s) and therefore I have no clue about it. So what does this mean to the QL community? "Just" that one can compile QDOS-programs under Windows? If so, what about such compiled programs? 1. Are the binaries 1:1 (file compare)? 2. If not, any increase in performance under QDOS? 3. If so, what about Dhrystone v2.1? What about the GCC story of Thierry Godefroy then? http://morloch.hd.free.fr/qdos/download.html#QDOSGCC Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators
There is also a version of uQLx for Mac, by James Weatherley, which used to be on Phoebus's website. Not being a Mac user, I have no idea if this works on current Macs (like the OSX systems). Anyone know? I could then post the info on my website. Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: "Rich Mellor" To: Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators Hi, Which emulators work on the latest OSX? A customer wants to play some QL games on such an emulator, but I can't for the life of me think which ones work - presume OSX is Mac operating system? Rich http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2459 - Release Date: 10/25/09 19:57:00 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm