Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Morning Dennis, I have the system installed on a 100Mb Zip disc which I take back and forth with me so I have the same setup at home and at work. I use a CD-RW for the same purpose... My system used to be a CD-R with QPC on it which stayed at work (like Norman, no installation required) then a floppy disk for data transfer between my previous place of work and home. It worked of course, but usually no time to do any QLing at work! -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season
Right now am having enough trouble just getting windows to work reliably. Isn't that a contradiciton in terms? The words 'windows' and work reliably can't exist together in one sentence, can they?
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At 09:46 ìì 9/1/2002 +, you wrote: Right now am having enough trouble just getting windows to work reliably. Isn't that a contradiciton in terms? The words 'windows' and work reliably can't exist together in one sentence, can they? Of course in three cases Case 1. Prefix the word windows with the word Glass :-) Case 2 Prefix the word Windows with the Letter X (as in X-Windows) Case 3. Suffix the word Windows with the number 3.11 :-) (After lots of updates) Phoebus
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Robert Newson wrote: Right now am having enough trouble just getting windows to work reliably. Isn't that a contradiciton in terms? The words 'windows' and work reliably can't exist together in one sentence, can they? Of course they can, as in you can't get Windows to work reliable Actually to be fair I think you can, for a month or so until it manages to fill itself with bits and pieces that lead to the misbehaviour. all the best - Bill ( been there, no that's wrong I keep going there )
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On 7 Jan 2002, at 21:59, Dennis Sutherland wrote: Morning Dennis, I have the system installed on a 100Mb Zip disc which I take back and forth with me so I have the same setup at home and at work. I use a CD-RW for the same purpose... Wolfgang - www.wlenerz.com
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That makes another vote in favor of W98. I don't have either of ** as yet. Right now am having enough trouble just getting windows to work reliably. Thought I had it till tonite. Back to the drawing board. Dennis N9VRB ICQ #801900 - Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season On 5 Jan 2002, at 2:29, Dennis Sutherland wrote: I take it from recent posts that W98 is not the ideal platform for **QPC2 and SMSQ/E?** Or anything else it seems, by my experience lately. Hmm, I run QPC EVERY day on W98SE - no problem! Wolfgang - www.wlenerz.com
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Neater still. =8-) Morning Dennis, I have the system installed on a 100Mb Zip disc which I take back and forth with me so I have the same setup at home and at work. I use a CD-RW for the same purpose... Wolfgang - www.wlenerz.com
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Morning Dennis, I use QPC2v2 on Win2K at work and on Win98 at home. I have the system installed on a 100Mb Zip disc which I take back and forth with me so I have the same setup at home and at work. Well, that's the theory, at work the zip is win1_ and at home it is win2_ and I even remember to backup my home Win1 to Win2 occasionally. The problem is when I have done stuff at work and forgotten to synchronise with win1 at home and then 'update' my zip from the 'real' win1 at home hence losing all the stuff I did at work. Brain problems :o) Regards, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Dennis Sutherland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 8:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season I take it from recent posts that W98 is not the ideal platform for QPC2 and SMSQ/E? Or anything else it seems, by my experience lately. This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 at 08:23:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I use QPC2v2 on Win2K at work and on Win98 at home. I have the system installed on a 100Mb Zip disc which I take back and forth with me so I have the same setup at home and at work. Well, that's the theory, at work the zip is win1_ and at home it is win2_ and I even remember to backup my home Win1 to Win2 occasionally. The problem is when I have done stuff at work and forgotten to synchronise with win1 at home and then 'update' my zip from the 'real' win1 at home hence losing all the stuff I did at work. I wouldn't be difficult to write a program to synchronise automatically. You have quite a gap between work and home I assume (unlike my 1 minute) so clocks need not be too accurate. Simply read all file attributes in designated directories and copy across newer ones as appropriate, of course date stamping them again. I think that is one of the major failings of QDOS/SMSQ - that date stamps are transitory at the O/S level. I know 'backup' in QPAC2 is better, but date stamps should be absolutely fixed, unless forced. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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I Wonder why I never thought of doing that Like I said, brain problems. Thanks for the reminder Tony. Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 at 08:23:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wouldn't be difficult to write a program to synchronise automatically. You have quite a gap between work and home I assume (unlike my 1 minute) so clocks need not be too accurate. Simply read all file attributes in designated directories and copy across newer ones as appropriate, of course date stamping them again. I think that is one of the major failings of QDOS/SMSQ - that date stamps are transitory at the O/S level. I know 'backup' in QPAC2 is better, but date stamps should be absolutely fixed, unless forced. This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
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On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:51:16 +, Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 at 08:23:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: I use QPC2v2 on Win2K at work and on Win98 at home. I have the system installed on a 100Mb Zip disc which I take back and forth with me so I have the same setup at home and at work. Well, that's the theory, at work the zip is win1_ and at home it is win2_ and I even remember to backup my home Win1 to Win2 occasionally. The problem is when I have done stuff at work and forgotten to synchronise with win1 at home and then 'update' my zip from the 'real' win1 at home hence losing all the stuff I did at work. I wouldn't be difficult to write a program to synchronise automatically. This programs already exists ! It's called TGBack and is available from the QDOS/SMS software repository ( http://smsq.free.fr/#DISK ). Example of use for the particular purpose of Norman's needs: EX TGBack_exe;-from win1 -to win2 /m /s Note that TGBack may also run unattented, e.g. from a boot file or in conjunction with minicron (MiniCron109.zip in the repository). I think that is one of the major failings of QDOS/SMSQ - that date stamps are transitory at the O/S level. TGBack does preserve files date stamp. QDOS/SMS forever ! Thierry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
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Thanks Thierry, I have now downloaded TGBack and will attempt to use it later on. Regards, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Thierry Godefroy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season This programs already exists ! It's called TGBack and is available from the QDOS/SMS software repository ( http://smsq.free.fr/#DISK ). Example of use for the particular purpose of Norman's needs: EX TGBack_exe;-from win1 -to win2 /m /s This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
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A sort of Winback of the zip disk each time it's put in a machine I suppose? -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07 January 2002 09:55 Subject: RE: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season I Wonder why I never thought of doing that Like I said, brain problems. Thanks for the reminder Tony. Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 at 08:23:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wouldn't be difficult to write a program to synchronise automatically. You have quite a gap between work and home I assume (unlike my 1 minute) so clocks need not be too accurate. Simply read all file attributes in designated directories and copy across newer ones as appropriate, of course date stamping them again. I think that is one of the major failings of QDOS/SMSQ - that date stamps are transitory at the O/S level. I know 'backup' in QPAC2 is better, but date stamps should be absolutely fixed, unless forced. This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
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Aargh ! I forgot that WinBack can also do incremental backups. What a disaster my brain is these days, I shall have to get a new one. I believe male brains cost more than female ones, because they've never been used :o) Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season A sort of Winback of the zip disk each time it's put in a machine I suppose? This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
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Perhaps file version would be of some interest too (to synchronise) -Message d'origine- De : Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : lundi 7 janvier 2002 09:51 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 at 08:23:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I use QPC2v2 on Win2K at work and on Win98 at home. I have the system installed on a 100Mb Zip disc which I take back and forth with me so I have the same setup at home and at work. Well, that's the theory, at work the zip is win1_ and at home it is win2_ and I even remember to backup my home Win1 to Win2 occasionally. The problem is when I have done stuff at work and forgotten to synchronise with win1 at home and then 'update' my zip from the 'real' win1 at home hence losing all the stuff I did at work. I wouldn't be difficult to write a program to synchronise automatically. You have quite a gap between work and home I assume (unlike my 1 minute) so clocks need not be too accurate. Simply read all file attributes in designated directories and copy across newer ones as appropriate, of course date stamping them again. I think that is one of the major failings of QDOS/SMSQ - that date stamps are transitory at the O/S level. I know 'backup' in QPAC2 is better, but date stamps should be absolutely fixed, unless forced. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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At 11:51 ðì 7/1/2002 +, you wrote: Imagine if Sinclair had been successful since the late 1980's, and QDOS was the dominant OS ... then people may have written Windows emulators to run on 'QDOS2000' :-) Hehe but that has a dose of truth, if you consider WINE :-)
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On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 at 10:19:17, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: Thierry Godefroy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season This programs already exists ! It's called TGBack and is available from the QDOS/SMS software repository ( http://smsq.free.fr/#DISK ). ... and from my BBS (8-)# I have written my own backup program (of course) to back up my BBS daily. I actually use 24 256mb partitions on a separate HD, and rotate. I now only have 22 as two sections of the HD have gone bad. Maybe time to replace with a minimum size modern HD, and have 60 partitions (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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In article 00ac01c19779$c818f3c0$ac065cc3@default, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Imagine if Sinclair had been successful since the late 1980's, and QDOS was the dominant OS ... then people may have written Windows emulators to run on 'QDOS2000' :-) Clive Sinclair=Bill Gates? Windows emulator running on Q60? Yuk, no thanks. ... yet it happens ... if only for the novelty :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] uk, Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Morning Dennis, I use QPC2v2 on Win2K at work and on Win98 at home. I have the system installed on a 100Mb Zip disc which I take back and forth with me so I have the same setup at home and at work. Well, that's the theory, at work the zip is win1_ and at home it is win2_ and I even remember to backup my home Win1 to Win2 occasionally. The problem is when I have done stuff at work and forgotten to synchronise with win1 at home and then 'update' my zip from the 'real' win1 at home hence losing all the stuff I did at work. Brain problems :o) There has to be a 'elegant' solution to making sure that you only update the latest work from the Zip ... but I can't think of right now :-( -- Malcolm Cadman
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In article 00ab01c196fc$3e5ea6c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dennis Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes - Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine if Sinclair had been successful since the late 1980's, and QDOS was the dominant OS ... then people may have written Windows emulators to run on 'QDOS2000' :-) I suspect that if Sir Clive was was driven by whatever makes Mr. Bill tick, then that could well have happened. Do you think the PM would've taken him to court? He .. he .. judging by recent goings on with Railtrack, you never know :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
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- Original Message - From: Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:23 AM Subject: RE: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season Morning Dennis, I have the system installed on a 100Mb Zip disc which I take back and forth with me so I have the same setup at home and at work. Regards, Norman. Kind of a neat idea. Dennis N9VRB ICQ #801900
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In article 003c01c195d2$a700c1c0$86065cc3@default, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I take it from recent posts that W98 is not the ideal platform for QPC2 and SMSQ/E? Or anything else it seems, by my experience lately. clip Basically, if a version of Windows works well and is stable on your PC, QPC2 will almost certainly work well on that system. It is designed to run on anything from Win95 onwards, and I have happy experience of running it on Win95 and Win NT4 where I used to work. As I've found to my cost, blaming problems on Windows or QPC2 is all too easy, there are so many variables in modern hardware and software that often no one thing is at fault but a combination of factors as with my recent problems with the Stlus 800 printer from QPC2 (now resolved...I'm happily printing from both OSes again). Don't be afraid of QPC2 on a Win 98 system, just be afraid of Windows in general ! All emulators are using the 'host' as the carrier for the emulated system. The discussion on this list does show that stabilty and performance is high for most people using them. Hopefully the sharing of ideas teases out any remaining difficulties. At present Windows is the most popular system running on home and business computers ... so it has to be worked with as it is. Imagine if Sinclair had been successful since the late 1980's, and QDOS was the dominant OS ... then people may have written Windows emulators to run on 'QDOS2000' :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
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- Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine if Sinclair had been successful since the late 1980's, and QDOS was the dominant OS ... then people may have written Windows emulators to run on 'QDOS2000' :-) I suspect that if Sir Clive was was driven by whatever makes Mr. Bill tick, then that could well have happened. Do you think the PM would've taken him to court? -- Malcolm Cadman Dennis N9VRB ICQ #801900
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John In Wales (wrote) I was amused to hear someone say recently If it wasn't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all! and Robert's hastily rushes back to shallow end of pool :-) sure made me smile! As it did I. =8-) I take it from recent posts that W98 is not the ideal platform for QPC2 and SMSQ/E? Or anything else it seems, by my experience lately. Dennis N9VRB ICQ# 801900
Re: [ql-users] seasonal cheer, Silly Season
I take it from recent posts that W98 is not the ideal platform for QPC2 and SMSQ/E? Or anything else it seems, by my experience lately. Dennis N9VRB ICQ# 801900 Not necessarily. I still use WIndows 95 because my PC is quite old and I suspect anything more recent would cripple it. Some versions of Windows 98 might not be able to write properly to DD disks, which might be a consideration if you exchange DD disks with other QLers, as a significant number still use DD disks. Windows 95 will not support USB devices (the OSR2 version of Win95 has a limited support only) on a PC, important if you intend to try to use those devices - my printer has parallel and USB ports, I'd hoped to connect the parallel port to the Aurora and USB to the PC to avoid the need for a printer switch (someone on this list said that might be possible), but the lack of support for USB on Win 95 I never bothered to add the connection which the motherboard supports The fact that various people pop up heere saying Win x is bad and somebody else pops up saying no Win x is good on my system probably means it ain't all bad. I can cite users happily using QPC2 on most Windows systems. QPC2 is not the only emulator either, but if you mwant to use SMSQE it is currently the only one. Failing that, wait for the Q60 to go into production with DD Systems and you'll get the best SMSQE system there currently is. Basically, if a version of Windows works well and is stable on your PC, QPC2 will almost certainly work well on that system. It is designed to run on anything from Win95 onwards, and I have happy experience of running it on Win95 and Win NT4 where I used to work. As I've found to my cost, blaming problems on Windows or QPC2 is all too easy, there are so many variables in modern hardware and software that often no one thing is at fault but a combination of factors as with my recent problems with the Stlus 800 printer from QPC2 (now resolved...I'm happily printing from both OSes again). Don't be afraid of QPC2 on a Win 98 system, just be afraid of Windows in general ! -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
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I take it from recent posts that W98 is not the ideal platform for QPC2 and SMSQ/E? Or anything else it seems, by my experience lately. Dennis N9VRB ICQ# 801900 Not necessarily. I still use WIndows 95 because my PC is quite old and I suspect anything more recent would cripple it. I use W98 yet because anything more recent will cripple my pocketbook. Failing that, wait for the Q60 to go into production with DD Systems and you'll get the best SMSQE system there currently is. After the lockups, blue screen of death and so forth of the past month, I was sorely tempted. There are Q60's available now but the pricing is not firm due to the euro faze. DD expects a week will settle it down. No firm price now. Don't be afraid of QPC2 on a Win 98 system, just be afraid of Windows in general ! Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html -- Any Windows version is in IMHO only an ideal platform for the next version of Windows, however as I tired of lining big Bill's pockets I've stuck at W98. all the best - Bill Amen. Dennis N9VRB ICQ# 801900
