[ql-users] sernet sucsess

2004-01-30 Thread Michael Grunditz

Hi

After a few cables tested I made it to work.
Now I can print from my Q40 to my USB printer..:)

/Michael


[ql-users] sernet problems (again:))

2004-01-28 Thread Michael Grunditz

Hi all !

Despite all your help last time I cant figure out how 
to get my Q40 talk whith qpc2.

On the Q40:

baud 9600
lrespr sernet
snet 1
sernet

and the equivalent on qpc2.

/Michael Grunditz
 


Re: [ql-users] sernet problems (again:))

2004-01-28 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Wed, 28 Jan 2004 at 10:23:14, Michael Grunditz wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])


Hi all !

Despite all your help last time I cant figure out how
to get my Q40 talk whith qpc2.

On the Q40:

baud 9600
lrespr sernet
snet 1
sernet

and the equivalent on qpc2.
What is the wiring of your cable?

If both are 9 pin this should work:

2 RX   -   3  TX
3 TX   -   2  RX
4 DTR  -   6  DSR
5 GND  -   5  GND
6 DSR  -   4  DTR
7 RTS  -   8  CTS
8 CTS  -   7  RTS
9 CD   NC

Most null modem cables will be like this.

Try testing the connection first direct using a terminal program each
end.  Then type characters each side.  If you see them uncorrupted, then
you have a handshaking problem at speed.
If you see nothing at all either end then you have problems.
It could be one or other serial card is not working or not set up
properly.  The Q40 end is the most likely problem, as PC bios will
default to an OK state.

You will then need a known working PC serial port to test against.
One that works with a serial mouse is a good starter, but serial mice
work at 1200 bps and do not use handshaking!
A port that works at speed with a modem will probably be working, but
CTS is often not used at all, and sometimes not even wired on the modem
cable.
For sernet it is vital that both RTS and CTS are used and working.

A 'real' QL is a good testing machine - although only with
Hermes/superHermes and working motherboard buffers.
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Re: [ql-users] sernet problems (again:))

2004-01-28 Thread Michael Grunditz

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On  Wed, 28 Jan 2004 at 10:23:14, Michael Grunditz wrote:
 (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 
 Hi all !
 
 Despite all your help last time I cant figure out how
 to get my Q40 talk whith qpc2.
 
 On the Q40:
 
 baud 9600
 lrespr sernet
 snet 1
 sernet
 
 and the equivalent on qpc2.
 What is the wiring of your cable?
 
 If both are 9 pin this should work:
 
 2 RX   -   3  TX
 3 TX   -   2  RX
 4 DTR  -   6  DSR
 5 GND  -   5  GND
 6 DSR  -   4  DTR
 7 RTS  -   8  CTS
 8 CTS  -   7  RTS
 9 CD   NC
 
 Most null modem cables will be like this.
 
 Try testing the connection first direct using a terminal program each
 end.  Then type characters each side.  If you see them uncorrupted, then
 you have a handshaking problem at speed.
 If you see nothing at all either end then you have problems.
 It could be one or other serial card is not working or not set up
 properly.  The Q40 end is the most likely problem, as PC bios will
 default to an OK state.

The cable works ok between qpti - qpti.

/Michael


Re: [ql-users] sernet problems (again:))

2004-01-28 Thread SMSQ - Jochen Merz


The cable works ok between qpti - qpti.
Character by Character or under heavy load (e.g. ZMODEM)?
The handshake needs to be working.
How many serial ports do you have in the Q40? 2 or 4?

I suggest you write a little BASIC routine which
transfers masses of data simultaneously both directions
and count and compare to ensure that no character loss occurs.
On my Q40, SERNET worked only on 2 COM ports as the
two other ones had interrupt problems and lost
characters.
Jochen


Re: [ql-users] sernet problems (again:))

2004-01-28 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Wed, 28 Jan 2004 at 12:35:11, Michael Grunditz wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])



The cable works ok between qpti - qpti.
Have you tried a massive file download using say zmodem, both ways?

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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-24 Thread wlenerz

On 23 Sep 2003 at 13:28, Derek Stewart wrote:

 Sernet works on all SMSQ/E systems and also non-SMSQ/E systems with SIMSER.
 
 On a QL with Superhermes, you will have to use SER1 or SER2. The superhermes SER3 
 failed to connect on my serial network. I think is is a limitation of the SER3 
 device driver. And if it did work it would only be 57600 baud
 
 Q60 to QPC2 is no problem connects first time with a standard null modem cable from 
 Maplins Electronics or any good electronics shop. Connection speed is 115200 baud.
 
 Derek
 
 
Same here.
Same between Q60  Atari, QPC  Atari.

Wolfgang




Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-24 Thread Jochen Merz

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 
 On 23 Sep 2003 at 13:28, Derek Stewart wrote:
 
  Sernet works on all SMSQ/E systems and also non-SMSQ/E
 systems with SIMSER.
  
  On a QL with Superhermes, you will have to use SER1 or
 SER2. The superhermes SER3 failed to connect on my serial
 network. I think is is a limitation of the SER3 device
 driver. And if it did work it would only be 57600 baud
  
  Q60 to QPC2 is no problem connects first time with a
 standard null modem cable from Maplins Electronics or any
 good electronics shop. Connection speed is 115200 baud.
  
  Derek
  
  
 Same here.
 Same between Q60  Atari, QPC  Atari.
 
 Wolfgang
I had it working between ATARI and QPC without any trouble,
and Q40 and ATARI too. As I had a 4-ser card in the Q40
(of which only 2 worked properly due to interrupt problems)
I had to fiddle a bit to see which of the two worked without
problems, and used the one without interrupts for the mouse.

I also managed 115k data rates between all machines,
and they worked fine.

I guess it is a cable problem in most cases - you can
easily try connecting the two machines with your nul modem
cable and start QTPI on both systems. If you see on the
other machine what you typed on one system and vv, then
the cable is correct.
It was not working here in most cases where problems 
were reported to me, so blaming SERNET for that is a bit
unfair.

If you then have a working connection, and you were able to transfer
data at higher rates using ZMODEM (for example) both ways, then 
SERNET was working too.

Regards   Jochen


Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-24 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Wed, 24 Sep 2003 at 14:23:45, Jochen Merz wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])



I guess it is a cable problem in most cases - you can
easily try connecting the two machines with your nul modem
cable and start QTPI on both systems. If you see on the
other machine what you typed on one system and vv, then
the cable is correct.
Not necessarily.
That checks RX/TX only.
The link will usually work with incorrect handshake if data rate is
slow.
It is vital on links to 'real' QLs that handshake is correctly
connected.  You _might_ get away with it on fast hardware with good
serial chips - like 16550 (PN from memory).
Often one finds RTS is not connected at all!

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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-23 Thread Fabrizio Diversi
Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you using Hermes?
On the QL YES.
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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-23 Thread Derek Stewart



Sernet works on all SMSQ/E systems and also 
non-SMSQ/E systems with SIMSER.

On a QL with Superhermes, you will have to use SER1 
or SER2. The superhermes SER3 failed to connect on my serial network. I think is 
is a limitation of the SER3 device driver. And if it did work it would only be 
57600 baud

Q60 to QPC2 is no problem connects first time with 
a standard null modem cable from Maplins Electronics or any good electronics 
shop. Connection speed is 115200 baud.

Derek




Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Derek Stewart wrote:
 Q60 to QPC2 is no problem connects first time with a standard null
modem cable from
 Maplins Electronics or any good electronics shop. Connection speed
is 115200 baud.

Yes, my successes have been with this type of cable, which I think is
wired like the diagrams I included in QL Today and on my website
somewhere.

Wiring is critical, the slightest booboo and it will either not work
at all or only at very low baudrates (usually not at all). Sernet is
one off those things that either it fails miserably and takes ages to
set up, or once working works perfectly, faultlessly and quickly
becomes one of those things you could never have managed without it.

When I get time I'll go back to the Aurora system to try that out
again.

--
Dilwyn Jones



Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones


- Original Message -
From: Phoebus R. Dokos ( . ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] sernet



 On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:23:38 +0100, Dilwyn Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
  I've been able to get it to work between machines of the same
type,
  but not different type (e.g. QPC/Aurora). There was also a problem
  version which didn't work. At one Quanta workshop, I pestered and
  pestered Bernd Reinhardt to help me with it, after he got home to
  Germany he sent me an email to say that the version I had at the
time
  DIDN'T WORK. I forget now which version it was, somewhere between
  v2.21 and 2.24 (I'm using 2.25 and that does work).
 


 Had no problems with Aurora/QPC, Aurora/Q40, Q40/QPC and even US QL
(with a
 slight modification on the cable for obvious reasons) with
everything else.
 Sernet hasn't let me down for one second
  Distributed SERNETs only work in a two machine setup, it does not
  support three or more machines in a loop (think it was something
to do
  with speed or timing). Bernd did offer to send me the
multi-machine
  version, but since that needs a loop cable with special wiring I
shied
  away from that.
 
  Re. the Aurora, I have never been able to get anything serial port
  working on it. It would be great to get the serial ports tested to
see
  if they're wired wrongly or something, as sernet isn't the only
thing
  i've failed to get working on it.


 Me on the other hand use the serial ports of the Aurora ALL the
time. It is
 essential to remember that you need the modern PC/IDC to DB9
(upper/lower
 row) cables and not the older ones (pin-to pin). If you grabbed your
serial
 connectors off one of the older ISA Multi I/Os chances are they will
not
 work.. (Note I am talking abour non-superHermes ports which work
anyway).
The cables came from Ron Dunnett originally, and the machine itself
was built by Keith Mitchell so chance of anything not working are
virtually nil I'd have thought.

 Now if you are trying to use SER3 with a superHermes and its
redirection
 that WILL NOT work.
Nope, 9-pin D connectors on both SER1 and SER2.

 Remember that Sernet on an Aurora will NOT work on
 anything above 4800 baud regardless superHermes.
AH! I have been (trying to) use it at default (9,600 baud?) baudrate.
That might well be the reason.

 As for multi machine I didn't know there was one? I am using the
Sernet
 that came with v. 2.76 of SMSQ/E for the Gold Card... are there
more? Where
 can I get the last version :-D
Good question, if Jochen can't supply it, try Bernd Reinhardt who was
the last maintainer of sernet that I knew of. Last email address I had
was [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (both addresses
rather old, might possibly be out of date)

--
Dilwyn Jones



Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-22 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 20/09/03 18:38:37 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Michael Grunditz writes:

 I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget 
 sernet aborted . 

 any help ?

Yes. Transfer data using some other method. Eg use a CD instead.

Per



Might be quicker to print out what is to be transferred from one end and type it in at the other.

Or use handwriting for the output end.

(I have NEVER been able to get sernet to work ANYWHERE.)

George


Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-22 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Mon, 22 Sep 2003 at 18:29:10,  wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])



not being silly here Tony but..


.Why don't you solder up a few cables and sell them as sernet
cables at shows for those that aren't too handy with a soldering iron, or
just couldn't be bothered making one themselves??

just a suggestion as one trader to another, who knows - might even make you
profitable this year :-)))

There are many variations - like QL - QL.  QL - PC (25 or 9D)

If there were just a hint of a requirement, I would do that.
I have not had one request ever for a sernet lead (other than Roy at
Byfleet).
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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-22 Thread Dilwyn Jones

I've been able to get it to work between machines of the same type,
but not different type (e.g. QPC/Aurora). There was also a problem
version which didn't work. At one Quanta workshop, I pestered and
pestered Bernd Reinhardt to help me with it, after he got home to
Germany he sent me an email to say that the version I had at the time
DIDN'T WORK. I forget now which version it was, somewhere between
v2.21 and 2.24 (I'm using 2.25 and that does work).

Distributed SERNETs only work in a two machine setup, it does not
support three or more machines in a loop (think it was something to do
with speed or timing). Bernd did offer to send me the multi-machine
version, but since that needs a loop cable with special wiring I shied
away from that.

Re. the Aurora, I have never been able to get anything serial port
working on it. It would be great to get the serial ports tested to see
if they're wired wrongly or something, as sernet isn't the only thing
i've failed to get working on it.

I've also wanted to get the USB working off th emain board in my PC,
as the Epson Stylus 880 has both parallel and USB ports, would be nice
to connect the parallel to the Aurora and the USB to the PC so that
either computer could access it, even if I had to manually unplug one
of them. But despite activating USB support in the BIOS and altering
the printer setup to USB, it's never worked, and the printer is the
only USB device I have to test it. Darren: next time you come to
Wales, bring bring a USB memory card or something with you so we can
test it again! Of course, if I could get SERNET working between the PC
and Aurora I should be able to print from the Aurora via the PC I
suppose, a better solution than separate cables to one printer.
--
Dilwyn Jones
- Original Message -
From: Phoebus R. Dokos ( . ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] sernet



 On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:20:36 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  In a message dated 20/09/03 18:38:37 GMT Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
  Michael Grunditz writes:
 
   I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget  sernet
aborted . 
   any help ?
 
  Yes. Transfer data using some other method. Eg use a CD instead.
 
  Per
 
 
 
  Might be quicker to print out what is to be transferred from one
end and
  type it in at the other.
 
  Or use handwriting for the output end.
 
  (I have NEVER been able to get sernet to work ANYWHERE.)
 
  George
 

 It's a matter of cabling actually usually. However as Jochen said in
that
 Sernet Special on QLT and I quote: It DOES work

 I have been using SERNET with: QPC to Aurora, QPC to Q40, Q40 to
Aurora
 even QemuLator to Aurora and QXL...

 If you are using QDOS Classic however it WILL NOT work. You need the
 H.P.R's SimSer to emulate SMSQ/E's ports.

 Phoebus


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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-22 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos ( . )
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:23:38 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I've been able to get it to work between machines of the same type,
but not different type (e.g. QPC/Aurora). There was also a problem
version which didn't work. At one Quanta workshop, I pestered and
pestered Bernd Reinhardt to help me with it, after he got home to
Germany he sent me an email to say that the version I had at the time
DIDN'T WORK. I forget now which version it was, somewhere between
v2.21 and 2.24 (I'm using 2.25 and that does work).


Had no problems with Aurora/QPC, Aurora/Q40, Q40/QPC and even US QL (with a 
slight modification on the cable for obvious reasons) with everything else. 
Sernet hasn't let me down for one second
Distributed SERNETs only work in a two machine setup, it does not
support three or more machines in a loop (think it was something to do
with speed or timing). Bernd did offer to send me the multi-machine
version, but since that needs a loop cable with special wiring I shied
away from that.
Re. the Aurora, I have never been able to get anything serial port
working on it. It would be great to get the serial ports tested to see
if they're wired wrongly or something, as sernet isn't the only thing
i've failed to get working on it.


Me on the other hand use the serial ports of the Aurora ALL the time. It is 
essential to remember that you need the modern PC/IDC to DB9 (upper/lower 
row) cables and not the older ones (pin-to pin). If you grabbed your serial 
connectors off one of the older ISA Multi I/Os chances are they will not 
work.. (Note I am talking abour non-superHermes ports which work anyway). 
Now if you are trying to use SER3 with a superHermes and its redirection 
that WILL NOT work. Remember that Sernet on an Aurora will NOT work on 
anything above 4800 baud regardless superHermes.

Phoebus

As for multi machine I didn't know there was one? I am using the Sernet 
that came with v. 2.76 of SMSQ/E for the Gold Card... are there more? Where 
can I get the last version :-D

Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-22 Thread Fabrizio Diversi

I know it is not very usefull, but I use sernet (2.25) between the WinXP PC
with QPC and the Q60, and between the same PC and the original QL and
everything is working perfectly.
As a cable between the PC and Q60 I use a standard serial cable
female-female linked to com2(PC) and ser1(Q60) bought in a computer shop.
Between the PC and the QL I use a Laplink Cable from the PC(com1) to the
QL(ser2) , on the QL side the Laplink cable is joined to the QL modem cable.
Speed is set to 115200 between PC and Q60 and 19200 between PC and QL
It works , maybe I am just lucky -)

Ciao
Fabrizio

- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] sernet



 I've been able to get it to work between machines of the same type,
 but not different type (e.g. QPC/Aurora). There was also a problem
 version which didn't work. At one Quanta workshop, I pestered and
 pestered Bernd Reinhardt to help me with it, after he got home to
 Germany he sent me an email to say that the version I had at the time
 DIDN'T WORK. I forget now which version it was, somewhere between
 v2.21 and 2.24 (I'm using 2.25 and that does work).

 Distributed SERNETs only work in a two machine setup, it does not
 support three or more machines in a loop (think it was something to do
 with speed or timing). Bernd did offer to send me the multi-machine
 version, but since that needs a loop cable with special wiring I shied
 away from that.

 Re. the Aurora, I have never been able to get anything serial port
 working on it. It would be great to get the serial ports tested to see
 if they're wired wrongly or something, as sernet isn't the only thing
 i've failed to get working on it.

 I've also wanted to get the USB working off th emain board in my PC,
 as the Epson Stylus 880 has both parallel and USB ports, would be nice
 to connect the parallel to the Aurora and the USB to the PC so that
 either computer could access it, even if I had to manually unplug one
 of them. But despite activating USB support in the BIOS and altering
 the printer setup to USB, it's never worked, and the printer is the
 only USB device I have to test it. Darren: next time you come to
 Wales, bring bring a USB memory card or something with you so we can
 test it again! Of course, if I could get SERNET working between the PC
 and Aurora I should be able to print from the Aurora via the PC I
 suppose, a better solution than separate cables to one printer.
 --
 Dilwyn Jones
 - Original Message -
 From: Phoebus R. Dokos ( . ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [ql-users] sernet


 
  On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:20:36 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   In a message dated 20/09/03 18:38:37 GMT Daylight Time,
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
   Michael Grunditz writes:
  
I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget  sernet
 aborted . 
any help ?
  
   Yes. Transfer data using some other method. Eg use a CD instead.
  
   Per
  
  
  
   Might be quicker to print out what is to be transferred from one
 end and
   type it in at the other.
  
   Or use handwriting for the output end.
  
   (I have NEVER been able to get sernet to work ANYWHERE.)
  
   George
  
 
  It's a matter of cabling actually usually. However as Jochen said in
 that
  Sernet Special on QLT and I quote: It DOES work
 
  I have been using SERNET with: QPC to Aurora, QPC to Q40, Q40 to
 Aurora
  even QemuLator to Aurora and QXL...
 
  If you are using QDOS Classic however it WILL NOT work. You need the
  H.P.R's SimSer to emulate SMSQ/E's ports.
 
  Phoebus
 
 
  --
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 uploading
  stuff!)
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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-22 Thread P Witte

George  writes:

   I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget
   sernet aborted .
  
   any help ?
 
  Yes. Transfer data using some other method. Eg use a CD instead.
 
  Per
 
 

 Might be quicker to print out what is to be transferred from one end and
type
 it in at the other.

 Or use handwriting for the output end.

 (I have NEVER been able to get sernet to work ANYWHERE.)

Hehe. Actually, after messing with sernet for three days (at least in this
latest (and last!) desperate attempt), I did what I should have done from
the start: copied the main stuff onto some 160 floppies and moved it over.
After that it wasnt so difficult to keep it up to date.

Per



Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-22 Thread P Witte

Phoebus R. Dokos  writes:


 It's a matter of cabling actually usually. However as Jochen said in that
 Sernet Special on QLT and I quote: It DOES work

 I have been using SERNET with: QPC to Aurora, QPC to Q40, Q40 to Aurora
 even QemuLator to Aurora and QXL...

 If you are using QDOS Classic however it WILL NOT work. You need the
 H.P.R's SimSer to emulate SMSQ/E's ports.

There are just too many variables: sernet version, cables, OSes, ports,
hardware, etc, plus virtually no feedback except some general error 
message after every 5 minute hogging of your machines. Either 
you have the luck of the Devil or your fortitude deserves a citation. 
For the rest of us:  Its just not worth the pain. Forget it!

Per




Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-22 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Mon, 22 Sep 2003 at 22:20:44, Fabrizio Diversi wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])


I know it is not very usefull, but I use sernet (2.25) between the WinXP PC
with QPC and the Q60, and between the same PC and the original QL and
everything is working perfectly.
As a cable between the PC and Q60 I use a standard serial cable
female-female linked to com2(PC) and ser1(Q60) bought in a computer shop.
Between the PC and the QL I use a Laplink Cable from the PC(com1) to the
QL(ser2) , on the QL side the Laplink cable is joined to the QL modem cable.
Speed is set to 115200 between PC and Q60 and 19200 between PC and QL
It works , maybe I am just lucky -)
Beware PC cables - they so often don't fully handshake.
I would never trust a cable unless I saw its pinouts.

Both PC handshake lines (RTS/CTS) must be linked through for reliable
operation - crossover for PC - Qx0.  For 'real' QL use, that means QL
DTR/CTS to PC (or other) RTS/CTS (crossover for ser2).

Are you using Hermes?

I assume sernet is still incompatible with superHermes.
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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-22 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos ( . )
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:24:13 +0100, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

On  Mon, 22 Sep 2003 at 22:20:44, Fabrizio Diversi wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
I know it is not very usefull, but I use sernet (2.25) between the WinXP 
PC
with QPC and the Q60, and between the same PC and the original QL and
everything is working perfectly.
As a cable between the PC and Q60 I use a standard serial cable
female-female linked to com2(PC) and ser1(Q60) bought in a computer 
shop.
Between the PC and the QL I use a Laplink Cable from the PC(com1) to the
QL(ser2) , on the QL side the Laplink cable is joined to the QL modem 
cable.
Speed is set to 115200 between PC and Q60 and 19200 between PC and QL
It works , maybe I am just lucky -)
Beware PC cables - they so often don't fully handshake.
I would never trust a cable unless I saw its pinouts.
Both PC handshake lines (RTS/CTS) must be linked through for reliable
operation - crossover for PC - Qx0.  For 'real' QL use, that means QL
DTR/CTS to PC (or other) RTS/CTS (crossover for ser2).
Are you using Hermes?

I assume sernet is still incompatible with superHermes.


Yes it is (And thepipeline feature doesn't work either)
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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-20 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos ( . )
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 07:25:34 +, Michael Grunditz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Hi

I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget sernet aborted .

any help ?

/Michael


Sernet aborted can be caused by many things... usual reasons

1. You have not configured it properly
2. The cable is malfunctioning.
Apart from that I have it here and working fine with both QPC2 and 
Aurora/SGC

Phoebus

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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones

I have not tried these two computers but I do use Sernet from time to
time.

There were several articles about Sernet (including one about Q40)  on
page 31 of Volume 1 Issue 5 of QL Today, in case you find something to
help you in there.

I have v2.25 of sernet happily running on QPC between my desktop PC
and my wife's laptop, and I'm sure I've had it running between Aurora
and QPC in the past, but I've just tried it now and I get the same
result as you between Aurora and QPC. I will be listening (reading?)
carefully for a solution to this to see if I can get it running again
between my Aurora and QPC.

(If Bernd Reinhardt is reading this: HELP!)

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- Original Message -
From: Michael Grunditz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 8:25 AM
Subject: [ql-users] sernet



Hi

I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget sernet aborted .

any help ?

/Michael





Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Ah, interesting, it used to work fine between my Aurora/Super Gold
Card and QPC2, but using the same cable as I used to it no longer
works, only difference between the systems is different versions of
SMSQ/E since then (rather old on the Aurora). Or of course something
broke since then.

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- Original Message -
From: Phoebus R. Dokos ( . ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] sernet



 On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 07:25:34 +, Michael Grunditz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
  Hi
 
  I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget sernet aborted .
 
  any help ?
 
  /Michael
 
 

 Sernet aborted can be caused by many things... usual reasons

 1. You have not configured it properly
 2. The cable is malfunctioning.

 Apart from that I have it here and working fine with both QPC2 and
 Aurora/SGC


 Phoebus

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Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-20 Thread P Witte

Michael Grunditz writes:

 I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget 
 sernet aborted . 

 any help ?

Yes. Transfer data using some other method. Eg use a CD instead.

Per



Re: [ql-users] sernet

2003-09-20 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Sat, 20 Sep 2003 at 07:25:34, Michael Grunditz wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])


Hi

I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget sernet aborted .
What is the pinout of your serial cable?
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[ql-users] sernet

2003-09-19 Thread Michael Grunditz

Hi

I cant use sernet between my q40 and qpc2. Iget sernet aborted . 

any help ?

/Michael