Attachments in failure notices

1999-03-12 Thread Andreas Altenberger

Hi!

I got the following problem

The useser of my qmail-server often send Attachments. Now and then it
happens that they send to wrong addresses, etc. 
The problem is, that the Mailer demon the returns a failure notice
including the attachment in the text area of the mail.

What can I do to make qmail NOT return the attachment ? 

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

bye-Andreas. 
***
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Techno-Z Salzburg, EDV-Zentrum
A-5020 Salzburg, Jakob Haringer Str. 1
Voice: +43-662-454888-160, Fax: +43-662-454889
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EOF.



Limit recipients (some how).

1999-03-12 Thread Georgi Kupenov

Any idea how to limit the number of
recepients per message?

JKK



Accepting Backup Mail (relay)

1999-03-12 Thread Chris Bond

Hi,

Whats the correct procedure to accept backup mail?

Do you need an entry in locals, rcpthosts? And what do you put in
smtproutes for when it comes back online?

There seems to be not much documentation on the files in
/var/qmail/control apart from man qmail-control.

Thanks,
Chris.



Re: Accepting Backup Mail (relay)

1999-03-12 Thread Russell Nelson

Chris Bond writes:
  Whats the correct procedure to accept backup mail?
  
  Do you need an entry in locals, rcpthosts? And what do you put in
  smtproutes for when it comes back online?

You only need an entry in rcpthosts.

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Re: Accepting Backup Mail (relay)

1999-03-12 Thread Timothy L. Mayo

The correct procedure is VERY simple.

Add the entry to rcpthosts.
Add the MX record to DNS.
Done. :)


On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Chris Bond wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Whats the correct procedure to accept backup mail?
 
 Do you need an entry in locals, rcpthosts? And what do you put in
 smtproutes for when it comes back online?
 
 There seems to be not much documentation on the files in
 /var/qmail/control apart from man qmail-control.
 
 Thanks,
 Chris.
 
 

-
Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/

The National Business Network Inc.  http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA  15146
(412) 810- Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax



Re: rewriting to: addresses

1999-03-12 Thread Jere Cassidy

Some scalability concerns when using .qmail-domain-default:

We did the same thing when acquiring a company that was approximately 75%
or size.  To a point the following solution seemed perfect since it ony
required that we change the duplicate email users' settings to include the
prefix.   Everyone else could simply use their old settings.   But then
every message to a majority of the users (not including the duplicates)
experiences a two delivery attempts.  So if the following was true:

if 1 qmail user = 1 unit of load to the server

us: 12000 users
company A: 8000 users (including 500 duplicates)
assuming a message to the remaining 7500 must be delivered twice,
we just added approximatly 15000 units of load to a server group that was
doing 12000

Obviously pop3 logins and remote deliveries are increased only by the
number of users.

Anyway, we decided to proceed with the following for future growth.

Add all customers of the new domain with a prefix (included in
virtualdomains, of course).  Then implement a second instance of
checkpassword that attaches the prefix on login.  We based it on port
number because we could redirect port25 on an address to port  on the
server with the help of an Alteon layer4 switch.  But smaller
establishments could do this by patching checkpassword to attach a prefix
based on the incoming IP address.  That way you just grab companyB.com's
DNS records and map mail.companyB.com to an additional IP that you specify
for one of you interfaces.Of course you'd only be able to specify 253
additional IP addresses per NICshrug

Let me know if I am completely off my rocker here !


Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote:

 put the following in ~alias/.qmail-domain-default:

 |forward "$DEFAULT"@example.com

 (RTFM qmail-command for the meaning of environment variables)

 - Harald

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Re: Attachments in failure notices

1999-03-12 Thread Fred Lindberg

On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:46:14 +0100, Andreas Altenberger wrote:

The problem is, that the Mailer demon the returns a failure notice
including the attachment in the text area of the mail.

What can I do to make qmail NOT return the attachment ? 

Any help will be appreciated.

ftp://ftp.id.wustl.edu/pub/patches/qmail-mime.tar.gz (README included).
To see how it looks, send a message with attachments to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (a non-existing address).


-Sincerely, Fred

(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)




Re: HELP: need Checkpassword

1999-03-12 Thread Russell Nelson

Patrick Paysant writes:
  Is there someone nice enough to send the checkpassword
  package from Dan Bernstein to me by e-mail.
  
  I try a dozen times since two weeks to access
  http://pobox.com/~djb/, it's impossible !

Try ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu.  Or if that fails, try
ftp://ftp.qmail.org/pub/koobera.math.uic.edu.

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Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/

1999-03-12 Thread Patrick Paysant

Help, please

I have this warning (/var/log/maillog) for one user. But I
have another user for which one all is good. I verified the
permissions, they are similar.
The only difference I can see is the user which don't receive
mail has a name beginning with capital :-(.

Do you have some docs about error messages ?

Qmail, is not simple, sob..

Patrick



mini-qmail on bastion host. Local mail

1999-03-12 Thread Robin Bowes

Hi,

I'm in the process of re-configuring our firewall + mail services and
have something like the following in mind:

   +-+
   |   ISP   |
   | mail relay  |
   +-+---+
Internet |
 ---+-+---
   |
   +---+--+ +--+
   | exterior | | bastion  |
   | router   | |  host|
   +---+--+ +--+
   | perimeter network   |
---+-+
   |193.123.253.128-143 (255.255.255.240)
  ++--+
  | interior  | (address translation)
  |  router   |
  ++--+
   | internal network
   +-+
 |  172.16.x (255.255.240.0)
   +-+--+
   | internal   |
   | mail host  | relays all internal mail
   ++

Incoming mail will be received by the bastion host and forwarded through   


the interior router to the internal host using qmqp.

Outgoing mail will either be delivered direct by the internal mail host   


or forwarded to our ISP's relay (I've not decided which yet).

I have no problems with things so far.  In fact, it worked first time
when I fired it up (well, the mail side of things did - I haven't got the   


network topology setup just yet).

My question is regarding mail generated on the bastion host, ie root
mail, messages from the proxy cache (this machine will also be running
squid), and mail from any security measures I may put in place.

Am I right in thinking that I will need a full qmail installation to deal   


with this mail or would it be possible to "deliver" mail generated
locally on the bastion host to the internal mail host?

eg:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
etc.

Also, I'm not sure whether I need to setup anything special in our DNS
for this to all work.  I am following the recommendations in the O'Reilly   


book "Building Internet Firewalls" to hide internal DNS data.  The DNS
will be setup as follows:

 - a "fake" external DNS with limited information (either hosted by our
ISP or running on the bastion host).  Used by external clients, bastion   


host, any other machines on the perimeter network.  Basically just has MX   


data and details of our externally hosted website.  Also, receives
forwarded requests from the internal DNS server.
 - a "real" DNS on the internal mail host.  Used by internal clients.
 Contains all internal domain information (eoc.org.uk)

Presumably, since qmqp uses IP addresses in qmqpserver, it doesn't need   


to use DNS at all?  ie the bastion host doesn't need to know any details   


of the internal DNS; it will just relay all incoming mail to the internal   


mail host?  What about locally generated mail (see previous question)?
 Again, presumably that wouldn't need DNS to work correctly?

Thanks for any contributions...

R.
 --
Robin Bowes, System Development Manager, Equal Opportunities Commission,
Room 405A, Overseas House, Quay St., Manchester, M3 3HN, UK.
Tel: +44 (0) 161 838 8321  Fax: +44 (0) 161 835 1657

Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the
bodies of the people I had to kill because they pissed me off  - Anon.



rblsmtp - I need to change the bounce report.

1999-03-12 Thread torben fjerdingstad

I registered a mail server at orbs and got the following
note from Alan Brown:

 Would you mind editing things so that it gives the IP number of the
 host it's rejecting?
 
 451 The server sending this mail is in the ORBS database as an
 insecure email relay.  See http://www.orbs.org/ for more
 information.
 
 Isn't very informative for an enduser.

How do I edit the message as requested?

My smtp startup script says:

/usr/local/bin/supervise /usr/local/qmail/supervise/tcpserver env - \
PATH="/usr/local/bin:$PATH" TZ=MET-1METDST,M3.5.0,M10.5.0 \
tcpserver -x /usr/local/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
-v -p -t 5 -c 400 -b 40 -u 203 -g 200 0 \
smtp /usr/local/bin/smtplog \
/usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -rrelays.orbs.org \
/usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -rrbl.maps.vix.com \
/usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 \
| /usr/local/bin/accustamp \
| /usr/local/bin/cyclog -s14000 -n2 /var/adm/smtpd smtpd 3 

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Netdriftgruppen / Network Management Group
UNI-C  

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Fax. +45 35 87 89 90   Bygning 304
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Re: rblsmtp - I need to change the bounce report.

1999-03-12 Thread Timothy L. Mayo

You don't without a lot of work.  The error message is the TXT record from
the ORBS database.  If Alan Brown wants the IP address in the message, he
should modify his scripts to place it in the TXT record in his ORBS DNS
database.

On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, torben fjerdingstad wrote:

 I registered a mail server at orbs and got the following
 note from Alan Brown:
 
  Would you mind editing things so that it gives the IP number of the
  host it's rejecting?
  
  451 The server sending this mail is in the ORBS database as an
  insecure email relay.  See http://www.orbs.org/ for more
  information.
  
  Isn't very informative for an enduser.
 
 How do I edit the message as requested?
 
 My smtp startup script says:
 
 /usr/local/bin/supervise /usr/local/qmail/supervise/tcpserver env - \
 PATH="/usr/local/bin:$PATH" TZ=MET-1METDST,M3.5.0,M10.5.0 \
 tcpserver -x /usr/local/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
 -v -p -t 5 -c 400 -b 40 -u 203 -g 200 0 \
 smtp /usr/local/bin/smtplog \
 /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -rrelays.orbs.org \
 /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -rrbl.maps.vix.com \
 /usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 \
 | /usr/local/bin/accustamp \
 | /usr/local/bin/cyclog -s14000 -n2 /var/adm/smtpd smtpd 3 
 
 -- 
 Med venlig hilsen / Regards 
 Netdriftgruppen / Network Management Group
 UNI-C  
 
 Tlf./Phone   +45 35 87 89 41Mail:  UNI-C
 Fax. +45 35 87 89 90   Bygning 304
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   DK-2800 Lyngby
 
 

-
Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/

The National Business Network Inc.  http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA  15146
(412) 810- Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax



Alias, dot-qmail, qmail-local, maildir, directories

1999-03-12 Thread Joaquim Homrighausen

Couple of questions:

1. I cannot get "redirection" to work when I use a .qmail
file containing a complete maildir path. If I replace the
maildir path with another local user, the redirection
works. In the former case, qmail(-local I assume) complains
about delivery being temporarily deferred.

What I had was:

.qmail-john:doe

In the default home directory. The file contained

/home/special/mailadd/johndoe02/Maildir/

The ./johndoe02 directory is owned by johndoe02 (not world writeable)
The same ownership applies to all of the directories below ./johndoe02

If I log-in as johndoe02, I can change to /home/special/mailadd..
although I cannot do a pwd.

What does qmail(-local) require as far as directory rights in the
above scenario.

I have temporarily circumvented the problem by replacing the path
specification in the .qmail-john:doe file with 'johndoe02', which
works but isn't an elegant solution (IMHO) since it requires extra
work on qmail's behalf.

2. Is there a file or document which describes which directories must
be owned/groupowned by the various qmail UIDs/GIDs as well as other
directories (such as the one in the first question above)?

I'm somewhat behind in this mailing list, so if you do reply, please
CC me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on your reply.

Thanks.


-+-
Joaquim Homrighausen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 2:201/330@fidonet
Definite Solutions * Stockholm, Sweden
Phone: +46 8 6505087 * Fax: +46 8 4410010 * http://www.defsol.se
-+-




Re: QMail SMTP goes bonk

1999-03-12 Thread Fred Lindberg

On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:42:08 -0300, Juan Carlos Castro y Castro wrote:

Bullseye! That was it. There was no rcpthosts! But when I add one with
my domains I can't send anything from my local network. I have to enable
mail coming from 200.244.84.x or else our ISP clients won't send mail.
How do I do that?

Per qmail FAQ, search for RELAYCLIENT. Use the tcpserver version ...

-Sincerely, Fred

(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)




Badmailfrom Questions

1999-03-12 Thread Kai MacTane

Hello, Folks--

I have a couple of questions about the control/badmailfrom file:

1) As long as it's readable by qmail, does its ownership matter?
2) Which part of qmail needs to read it? My quick scan of the docs 
   says qmail-smtpd is the only thing that looks at control/badmailfrom,
   but I'd like to double-check.
3) Will control/badmailfrom take regexes or any other form of pattern
   matching besides the simple "@host" that matches all addresses at
   a given host? Since it appears not, are there any patches to
   enable this?
4) After altering it, I don't need to restart anything, right?

Hope these questions aren't too simple. Thanks.

-
 Kai MacTane
 System Administrator
  Online Partners.com, Inc.
-
From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)

scram switch /n./ 

[from the nuclear power industry] An emergency-power-off switch (see
Big Red Switch), esp. one positioned to be easily hit by evacuating
personnel. In general, this is *not* something you frob lightly;
these often initiate expensive events (such as Halon dumps) and are
installed in a dinosaur pen for use in case of electrical fire or
in case some luckless field servoid should put 120 volts across
himself while Easter egging. 



Re: rblsmtp - I need to change the bounce report.

1999-03-12 Thread torben fjerdingstad

On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 10:56:46AM -0500, Timothy L. Mayo wrote:
 You don't without a lot of work.  The error message is the TXT record from
 the ORBS database.  If Alan Brown wants the IP address in the message, he
 should modify his scripts to place it in the TXT record in his ORBS DNS
 database.

What kind of work? Changing rblsmtpd? At the same time I think
it should be modified to be able to take multiple -r flags.
 
Alan Brown also wrote me this note about TXT records:

*-I don't have individual TXT records for ORBS as the zonefile is
*-already 2.5Mb. With TXT records in there, that grows to 7Mb. :-(

 On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
 
  I registered a mail server at orbs and got the following
  note from Alan Brown:
  
   Would you mind editing things so that it gives the IP number of the
   host it's rejecting?
   
   451 The server sending this mail is in the ORBS database as an
   insecure email relay.  See http://www.orbs.org/ for more
   information.
   
   Isn't very informative for an enduser.
  
  How do I edit the message as requested?
  
  My smtp startup script says:
  
  /usr/local/bin/supervise /usr/local/qmail/supervise/tcpserver env - \
  PATH="/usr/local/bin:$PATH" TZ=MET-1METDST,M3.5.0,M10.5.0 \
  tcpserver -x /usr/local/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
  -v -p -t 5 -c 400 -b 40 -u 203 -g 200 0 \
  smtp /usr/local/bin/smtplog \
  /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -rrelays.orbs.org \
  /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -rrbl.maps.vix.com \
  /usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 \
  | /usr/local/bin/accustamp \
  | /usr/local/bin/cyclog -s14000 -n2 /var/adm/smtpd smtpd 3 

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Netdriftgruppen / Network Management Group
UNI-C  

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Fax. +45 35 87 89 90   Bygning 304
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Re: Badmailfrom Questions

1999-03-12 Thread Chris Johnson

On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 12:03:35PM -0800, Kai MacTane wrote:
 Hello, Folks--
 
 I have a couple of questions about the control/badmailfrom file:
 
 1) As long as it's readable by qmail, does its ownership matter?

Nope.

 2) Which part of qmail needs to read it? My quick scan of the docs 
says qmail-smtpd is the only thing that looks at control/badmailfrom,
but I'd like to double-check.

Only qmail-smtpd reads it.

 3) Will control/badmailfrom take regexes or any other form of pattern
matching besides the simple "@host" that matches all addresses at
a given host? Since it appears not, are there any patches to
enable this?

The only things you can have in badmailfrom are user@host or @host. I do recall
seeing some patches to allow regexes; check www.qmail.org.

 4) After altering it, I don't need to restart anything, right?

Right. It's reread every time a new qmail-smtpd is run.

Chris



child crashed for non-existant users (qmail-mysql)

1999-03-12 Thread Omer

Hi,
  First of all, my apologies if you have received this twice.

 I have just finished setting up a qmail system here.
 The system is supposed to handle quite a lot of users
 (mail-only) so I decided to use the mysql patch to manage
 all the accounts using a mySQL database, and use a single
 uid for the pop-boxes themselves. Ok, so everything works
 fine, until...Someone tries to logon on with a user that
 doesn't exist. Fex:

 telnet localhost 110
 +OK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 USER bozo
 +OK 
 PASS theclown
 -ERR aack, child crashed
 Connection closed by foreign host.

 And it core dumps inside the control directory.
 qmail-getpw just returns the alias user for non-existant users,
 so I guess that's ok. Users that exist work just fine.

 Can anyone offer any insight/help on this?

 Thanks,

-- Omer
|---|
| A bus station is where a bus stops.  A train| Omer Efraim |
| station is where a train stops.  On my desk I   | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| have work station...   -Author Unknown  | |
|---|



Gateway test - ignore

1999-03-12 Thread Robin Bowes

Sorry.

R.



qmail Digest 12 Mar 1999 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 577

1999-03-12 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 12 Mar 1999 11:00:01 - Issue 577

Topics (messages 22858 through 22896):

Filtering mails with file attachment
22858 by: "Sam" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How to monitor qmail-send and friends?
22859 by: Greg Moeller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22861 by: Samuel Dries-Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22862 by: Van Liedekerke Franky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22863 by: Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22864 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22866 by: Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22868 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

qmail + IMAP
22860 by: Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22890 by: Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Strange Phenomen with virtualdomains-file
22865 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

where do I get spong ?
22867 by: Eduardo Jaime Quiros Batres [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22883 by: Gordon Soukoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22884 by: Jay Soffian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22887 by: Paul Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED]

rewriting to: addresses
22869 by: "Adam D. McKenna" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22870 by: xs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22871 by: "Adam D. McKenna" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22872 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22873 by: Justin Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22876 by: xs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

need help ASAP, error to deliver virtual addresses
22874 by: "Iwao Makino" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22875 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22877 by: "Iwao Makino" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22878 by: Stefan Paletta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22879 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22880 by: "Iwao Makino" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22881 by: "Iwao Makino" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22882 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22885 by: Manfred Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22886 by: "Iwao Makino" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

newaliases problem with fastforward
22888 by: "Adam D. McKenna" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22889 by: "Jay D. Dyson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

cname_lookup_failed_temporarily
22891 by: "Adam D. McKenna" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22892 by: "Adam D. McKenna" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

qpopper vulnerability?
22893 by: Bruce Guenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Attachments in failure notices
22894 by: Andreas Altenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Limit recipients (some how).
22895 by: Georgi Kupenov [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Problem solved! Thx. to all! (was RE: Strange Phenomen with virtualdomains-file)
22896 by: "Joerg Toellner (INB)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Administrivia:

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David Lee Haw Ling writes:

 Round-file? How?
 
 I am not talking about filtering at the email client's end but at qmail server.

So?  Write the code to do it.  Have Qmail reject all mail with a
Content-Type: multipart header.

-- 
Sam





We're running a fairly big Qmail site and have all essential services 
monitored with paging and such. (SMTP, POP, PING, all that)

Now, what happened last night was that qmail-send got stuck.
Everything else was working perfectly, just the Email wasn't being sent 
anywhere.  The only way we noticed it was clients complaining about not 
getting any mail they knew was sent. When I checked the system, the queue was 
at over 500 Meg.
Telling qmail-send to quit didn't help, nor did a regular kill of it, I 
eventually had to kill -9 the process.  When I started it up again, all was 
fine.

The question is how best to monitor that qmail-send is alive and well?
All the processes were there, just not doing anything.

Ideas anyone?

Greg







What I would do is monitor the queue using qmail-qstat or one of the other
utilities like it. Perhaps a good idea would be to check for a number of
messages you think is too high, and if the queue has the same or greater
messages within x timeframe then send the page. 

Can you share some of the scripts you use for paging? We use one called
'checknet' that was written here...it does a cycle of pings across our
network, then it prioritizes which sytems, hubs, etc and pages with the ip
addresses of the non-responsive item. We are interested in moving to a
paging system that checks services, not just network 'upness'.

Samuel Daffner
Mills College ITS


On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Greg Moeller wrote:

 We're running a fairly big Qmail site and have all essential services 
 monitored with paging and such. (SMTP, POP, PING, all that)
 
 Now, what happened last night was that qmail-send got stuck.
 Everything else was working perfectly, just the Email wasn't being sent 
 anywhere.  The only way we noticed it was clients complaining about not 
 getting any mail they knew was sent. When I checked the