svscan/supervise run script

[John Conover]

When launching a program under svscan/supervise that has no port
connections, (I just want to keep it running,) what is the correct
line in the "run" script if I want to use syslog?

Would something like:

exec env - PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin" my_prog | \
splogger my_prog_id 3

or:

exec env - PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin" my_prog 2>&1 | \
splogger my_prog_id 3

work OK?

Both seem to work OK, but are they correct?

Thanks,

John

-- 

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631 Lamont Ct.  Cel. 408.772.7733
Campbell, CA 95008  Fax. 408.379.9602  http://www.johncon.com

Re: svscan/supervise run script

[Chris, the Young One]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 07:08:38AM -, John Conover wrote:
! exec env - PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin" my_prog 2>&1 | \
! splogger my_prog_id 3

Almost. Use the log directory instead, if you can (replace qmaill with
whatever user you want to run your log process on):

cd /service/foobar
printf '#!/bin/sh\nexec env - PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin" my_prog 2>&1' > run
chmod +x run
mkdir log
printf '#!/bin/sh\nexec setuidgid qmaill splogger my_prog_id 3' > log/run
chmod +x log/run
chmod +t .

If the main process dies for some reason, the logging program is kept
running ``so that no data is lost'' (according to the svscan page).

---Chris K.
-- 
 Chris, the Young One |_ If you can't afford a backup system, you can't 
  Auckland, New Zealand |_ afford to have important data on your computer. 
http://cloud9.hedgee.com/ |_ ---Tracy R. Reed  
 PGP: 0xCCC6114E/0x706A6AAD |_ 

Re: updated load balancing qmail-qmqpc.c mods

[Eric Cox]

Warning: This may be a stupid idea...

Could you take the number of milliseconds in the timeb stucture, 
modulo , and use that as the first server to 
start from?  That could be done with a simple AND of a short, 
and I think would provide a nice even spread across the servers.
And it doesn't require state (i.e. which server was used last time).

Just an idea.  
I may realize how dumb it is after some sleep. 
G'night all.

Eric

Re: ezmlm-idx QMQP support does not work

[P.Y. Adi Prasaja]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:41:19AM +0800, Wayne Chu wrote:
> I installed ezmlm-0.53+ezmlm-idx-0.40.
> Patched qmail-qmqpc as instructed in qmail-qmqpc.tar.gz
> (I checked qmail-qmqpc.c,  it's patched.)
> Put a "DIR/qmqpservers" file in my list directory. 
> 
> But ezmlm-send still uses qmail-queue instead of qmail-qmqpc 
> to deliver posts.  The QMQP support in ezmlm-idx-0.40 does not
> seem to work at all.

Try to add '-Q' into ezmlm-send invocation, for example

|/path/to/ezmlm-send -Q ...

Indeed this is undocumented (yet).

Salam,

P.Y. Adi Prasaja

trouble injecting bounce message

[Joel Gautschi]

hi,
I have a lot of these entries in my /var/log/syslog file. what do these
entries mean? do I have to care about them or are these messages just
'information'?

Aug  3 06:26:22 joshua qmail: 965276782.869518 warning: trouble injecting
bounce message, will try later

thanks for an answer
Joel

RE: trouble injecting bounce message

[Slider]

Hi,

I have just recently had the same problem although in my case I have to
remove alot of spam that was caught in my queue and the ever growing queue
was choking the system... I very brutally removed alot of the spammers mail
from /var/qmail/queue/mess and the others since then the problem started.

Cure came around from rebuilding the queue following the instructions on the
qmail.com page

http://qmail.plig.org/top.html#large

Or if you like:

   Patches for high-volume servers(On your mirror)

Good Luck

Slider







hi,
I have a lot of these entries in my /var/log/syslog file. what do these
entries mean? do I have to care about them or are these messages just
'information'?

Aug  3 06:26:22 joshua qmail: 965276782.869518 warning: trouble injecting
bounce message, will try later

thanks for an answer
Joel

Re: updated load balancing qmail-qmqpc.c mods

[Pavel Kankovsky]

On 2 Aug 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote:

> Generating a random permutation algorithmically is not too easy.

Oh really?

  int i, j, x;
  int a[N];

  for (i = 0; i < N; ++i)
a[i] = i;
  for (i = N - 1; i > 0; --i) {
j = random(i);
x = a[i]; a[i] = a[j]; a[j] = x;
  }

where random(i) is a "good enough" PRNG generating an integer between
0 and i - 1 with the uniform distribution. The result is in a[].

The proof of correctness (i.e. that the aformentioned piece of code
generates a pseudorandomly chosen permutation of (0, ..., N-1) with
the uniform distribution) is left as an exercise for the reader.

--Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak  [ Boycott Microsoft--http://www.vcnet.com/bms ]
"Resistance is futile. Open your source code and prepare for assimilation."

qmail Digest 3 Aug 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 1082

[qmail-digest-help]

qmail Digest 3 Aug 2000 10:00:00 - Issue 1082

Topics (messages 45990 through 46071):

Re: updated load balancing qmail-qmqpc.c mods
45990 by: JuanE
45992 by: JuanE
45996 by: James Raftery
46002 by: Michael T. Babcock
46010 by: JuanE
46013 by: Austad, Jay
46015 by: Michael T. Babcock
46021 by: Austad, Jay
46022 by: JuanE
46025 by: David Dyer-Bennet
46030 by: JuanE
46036 by: Michael T. Babcock
46039 by: Michael T. Babcock
46067 by: Eric Cox
46071 by: Pavel Kankovsky

rblsmtpd
45991 by: Slider
46000 by: Paul Farber
46029 by: Jon Rust
46057 by: Eric Cox

build-rblsmtpd error
45993 by: Neil D. Roberts
45994 by: Petr Novotny
45995 by: Gerrit Pape

Re: qmail-pw2u error
45997 by: Chris, the Young One
45998 by: Dave Sill
46003 by: Chris, the Young One
46006 by: Dave Sill
46054 by: Chris, the Young One
46059 by: Vincent Danen

Re: Mailing list performance
45999 by: Fernando Almeida
46001 by: Vince Vielhaber
46004 by: Irwan Hadi
46005 by: Dave Sill
46007 by: Dave Sill
46023 by: David Dyer-Bennet
46026 by: Dave Sill
46032 by: Fernando Almeida
46053 by: Irwan Hadi

Re: why qmail is more secure, was: Mailing list performance
46008 by: Ronny Haryanto
46011 by: Dave Sill
46012 by: Ronny Haryanto
46014 by: Michael T. Babcock
46024 by: David Dyer-Bennet

Re: Cannot send mail thru SMTP
46009 by: Dave Sill

Outlook choking on messages
46016 by: Albert Hopkins
46018 by: Petr Novotny
46028 by: Henrik Öhman
46046 by: Albert Hopkins

[Announce] oMail 0.90a - Completely redesigned version
46017 by: Olivier M.
46050 by: Olivier M.

help - qmail rejecting mail. "no mailbox here by that name".
46019 by: J
46020 by: Dave Sill

Any special order of install for various qmail "tools" ?
46027 by: Andy Meuse
46040 by: Jack Barnett

Re: Duplicate Message-ID question
46031 by: Dave Sill

how do you apply a patch?
46033 by: Russ Ringer
46035 by: Jack Barnett
46042 by: Erwin Hoffmann

update Re: help - qmail rejecting mail. "no mailbox here by that name"
46034 by: J

change password via web
46037 by: Mark Lo

Re: New to list and to DNS - need just a little help
46038 by: Ben Beuchler

Re: SPAM BLOCKING
46041 by: Robin S. Socha

maildirmake
46043 by: Eddie Greer
46048 by: qmail List
46049 by: Bryan Ischo

EZMLM Moderation Woes
46044 by: JB

qmail - cyrus
46045 by: Wolfgang Wagner
46047 by: Vince Vielhaber

Qmail and redirecting mail
46051 by: Wilson Fletcher
46052 by: Gavin Cameron

ezmlm-idx QMQP support does not work
46055 by: Wayne Chu
46064 by: Oliver Koch
46068 by: P.Y. Adi Prasaja

Re: Microsoft to Move Hotmail to Windows 2000
46056 by: Irwan Hadi
46061 by: Irwan Hadi
46062 by: Sean C Truman

Always got like this ? Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown
46058 by: Irwan Hadi

Refuse long list rcpt!
46060 by: Nguyen Dang Phuoc Dong

source rpm
46063 by: Sumith Ail

svscan/supervise run script
46065 by: John Conover
46066 by: Chris, the Young One

trouble injecting bounce message
46069 by: Joel Gautschi
46070 by: Slider

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Jay,

A small modification to what you have done can get rid of the problem of
banging one server. Instead of just sampling a random starting point for
the search, just get a random number between 1 and N (N being the number of
servers) and if that server is down just sample again until you find a
server that's up. This way, you will redistribute the load randomly to all
servers and not just the next one on the list.

What I propose sounds very expensive computationally, but there might be a
way to bypass using rand. If there is a way to get the time down to
microseconds (I believe gettimeofday() will do this), then you can use the
microseconds in the time as your random variable. Just take the number of
microseconds mod N. This should be much faster than using rand and close
enough to uniform for this purpose (anybody disagree??).

If this is feasible, then it sounds much simpler than trying to deamonize
qmqpc.

Hope this helps.
JES

Austad, Jay writes:

> You are correct.  However, since qmail-qmqpc does not continually run, it is
> not possible to 

Creation of /Maildir/user/ instead of ~/Maildir

[Thomas Fahle]

Hello all,


I've come to a point where I'm stuck, and need some help.

I have a separate partion called /Maildir on my LinuxBox.

I want qmail to make the maildirs for each user below /Maildir
eg. /Maildir/joedoe/Maildir instead of /home/joedoe/Maildir




tia


Thomas

Re: trouble injecting bounce message

[Joel Gautschi]

thanks for your help. I've just found out another way to fix this problem. I
used the queue-fix (http://www.netmeridian.com/e-huss/queue-fix.tar.gz)
program by Eric Huss.
It repairs or generates a qmail queue structure. You can use this to help
move your queue location, or if you regenerate the file system and the inode
numbering changes. It will also fix permissions and ownerships of the files.
Have a look at http://qmail.plig.org/top.html#usersoft

thanks for your help anyway,
Joel


> I have just recently had the same problem although in my case I have to
> remove alot of spam that was caught in my queue and the ever growing queue
> was choking the system... I very brutally removed alot of the spammers
mail
> from /var/qmail/queue/mess and the others since then the problem started.
>
> Cure came around from rebuilding the queue following the instructions on
the
> qmail.com page
>
> http://qmail.plig.org/top.html#large
>
> Or if you like:
>
>Patches for high-volume servers(On your mirror)
>
> Good Luck
>
> Slider
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> hi,
> I have a lot of these entries in my /var/log/syslog file. what do these
> entries mean? do I have to care about them or are these messages just
> 'information'?
>
> Aug  3 06:26:22 joshua qmail: 965276782.869518 warning: trouble injecting
> bounce message, will try later
>
> thanks for an answer
> Joel
>
>
>

Re: Mailing list performance

[P.Y. Adi Prasaja]

On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 08:32:37PM -0600, Irwan Hadi wrote:
> I saw, at least at evaluation 3, postfix beat qmail ;)

BTW, still don't know how about exact configuration that the author's
using while doing the experiments.

If this information could be gathered from:

http://www.kyoto.wide.ad.jp/mta/eval1/eoperation.html

then one can make a conclusion that the authors no nothing about
postfix. /etc/postfix/master.cf has nothing todo with concurrency
control in postfix, at least if he think that it has the same fashion
as qmail.

Salam,

P.Y. Adi Prasaja

Anti Virus

[Slider]

Hey,

Please can anyone inform me as to the best anti virus package that is not
going to cost me an absolute fortune and is really reliable to plug onto the
server side!

Thanks

Slider

RE: Creation of /Maildir/user/ instead of ~/Maildir

[Brett Randall]

Ummm...why? Do the users store other information in their home folders? Why
not just put all the home folders in the seperate partition? But, forsaking
that, just make the .qmail file in each user's home directory point to
/Maildir/user (or did you really want /Maildir/user/Maildir? If so, I ask
the same question as above?). Will need a slight modification of the adduser
script (I totally rewrite mine for each new situation) so that it writes the
.qmail file relevantly instead of the generic one found in /etc/skel.

BTW If you put all the home folders in the seperate partition (advised for
simplicity), remember to change the folder names in /etc/passwd
(obviously...) A simple perl script could do this pretty easily. eg:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
while (<>) {
s!/home/(\W+)\:!/Maildir/\1\:!g;
print;
}

Then a 'cat /etc/passwd | script > /etc/passwd~'

Check passwd~ and make sure it looks ok, then overwrite the old one. Easier
is just to literally move the /home folder to the new partition and mount it
as /home though.

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Thomas Fahle
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 8:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Creation of /Maildir/user/ instead of ~/Maildir
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> I've come to a point where I'm stuck, and need some help.
>
> I have a separate partion called /Maildir on my LinuxBox.
>
> I want qmail to make the maildirs for each user below /Maildir
> eg. /Maildir/joedoe/Maildir instead of /home/joedoe/Maildir
>
>
>
>
> tia
>
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Mailing list performance

[Dave Sill]

Irwan Hadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>   http://www.kyoto.wide.ad.jp/mta/eval1/eindex.html
>
>I saw, at least at evaluation 3, postfix beat qmail ;)

Check again. qmail won all three tests. In Evaluation 3, qmail
finished in ~125 seconds, and Postfix took over 150 seconds--next to
last place.

So where's that 3x speed Postfix has over qmail?

-Dave

Re: Mailing list performance

[Dave Sill]

"P.Y. Adi Prasaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>If this information could be gathered from:
>
>   http://www.kyoto.wide.ad.jp/mta/eval1/eoperation.html
>
>then one can make a conclusion that the authors no nothing about
>postfix. /etc/postfix/master.cf has nothing todo with concurrency
>control in postfix, at least if he think that it has the same fashion
>as qmail.

He apparently confused incoming concurrency with outgoing
concurrency. Luckily, Postfix defaults to 50, so the results are still 
valid.

-Dave

Re: Anti Virus

[Robin S. Socha]

* Slider  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please can anyone inform me as to the best anti virus package that is
> not going to cost me an absolute fortune and is really reliable to
> plug onto the server side!

Use procmail to filter out all attachments. Keep a LART at hand in case
your cow-orkers start whining. Make them fear you. Tell your management
to release a policy on the grounds of which anyone sending or receiving
binary attachments will be sacked immediately.  Works fine for me.

As an alternative, install an Operating System on the clients and get
rid of viruses for good. Rationale: we were running 4 virus scanners at
once and that still would not have prevented us from being infected with
(to mention just two) Melissa and ILOVEYOU. Search freshmeat for anomy
or sanitze or something.
-- 
Robin S. Socha 

RE: Anti Virus

[Slider]

Hello again!

Thanks for the tip on procmail, looking at it, it seems to be more a
personal solution. apologies for not being clear, is there a bulk method
of scanning viruses?

Thanks

AC



-Original Message-
From: Robin S. Socha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 03 August 2000 13:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anti Virus


* Slider  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please can anyone inform me as to the best anti virus package that is
> not going to cost me an absolute fortune and is really reliable to
> plug onto the server side!

Use procmail to filter out all attachments. Keep a LART at hand in case
your cow-orkers start whining. Make them fear you. Tell your management
to release a policy on the grounds of which anyone sending or receiving
binary attachments will be sacked immediately.  Works fine for me.

As an alternative, install an Operating System on the clients and get
rid of viruses for good. Rationale: we were running 4 virus scanners at
once and that still would not have prevented us from being infected with
(to mention just two) Melissa and ILOVEYOU. Search freshmeat for anomy
or sanitze or something.
--
Robin S. Socha 

qmail - cyrus

[Wolfgang Wagner]

Hello,

does anyone know or has working the connection
from qmail to IMAP-daemon Cyrus?

I am experimenting with these two, but qmail
does not deliver mail to cyrus.

I want to use qmail as MTA and cyrus as IMAP-daemon
for all users.

TIA

Wolfgang Wagner
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: qmail - cyrus

[Greg Owen]

> does anyone know or has working the connection
> from qmail to IMAP-daemon Cyrus?
> 
> I am experimenting with these two, but qmail
> does not deliver mail to cyrus.
> 
> I want to use qmail as MTA and cyrus as IMAP-daemon
> for all users.

Are you using the deliver program that comes with Cyrus?  (You have
to).

Have you wrapped it or modified its permissions? (You need to).

Read the following archive messages, give it a try, and if you're
still having problems come back with some details about what you're trying,
where it is failing, and what log messages result.

http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/03/msg01173.html
http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/02/msg00561.html

-- 
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: ref: qmail+mrtg+multilog mods

[Cedric Fontaine]

Peter Green said in June 12, that he modified the qmailmrtg stuff to work
with multilog format

Do you have some infos on it ??? Where can I find that ???
Or what shall I do if I want to use the qmailmrtg stuff ??

Thanks

Re: source rpm

[Charles Cazabon]

Sumith Ail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Can anybody tell me where can I find source rpm of
> qmail + patches + init scripts for my RH Linux 6.2 on
> i386

Try http://www.em.ca/~bruceg/ and look under "qmail+patches" or something
along those lines.

Charles
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
---

Re: ref: qmail+mrtg+multilog mods

[Magnus Bodin]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 04:21:00PM +0200, Cedric Fontaine wrote:
> Peter Green said in June 12, that he modified the qmailmrtg stuff to work
> with multilog format
> 
> Do you have some infos on it ??? Where can I find that ???
> Or what shall I do if I want to use the qmailmrtg stuff ??

Have some patience. Or pay somebody.
I've just returned from a vacation from the midnight-sun-zone. 

I'll deal with this Very Soon Now. 

/magnus

--
http://x42.com/

backup of server is timing out

[Albert Hopkins]

I'm (still) getting request time-outs from the same server.  Checking the
client's amandad.debug reveals:

amandad: waiting for ack: timeout, retrying
amandad: waiting for ack: timeout, retrying
amandad: waiting for ack: timeout, retrying
amandad: waiting for ack: timeout, retrying
amandad: waiting for ack: timeout, giving up!
amandad: pid 30738 finish time Thu Aug  3 00:04:58 2000

Any clues why this is happening or how to fix it?

-- 
 Albert Hopkins
 Sr. Systems Specialist
  Dynacare Laboratories 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is never any good dwelling on good-byes. It is not the being together that 
it prolongs, it is the parting. 
-Elizabeth Asquith Bibesco 

Re: backup of server is timing out

[Albert Hopkins]

Sorry, wrong mailing list ;-).  I haven't had my coffee yet.

-- 
 Albert Hopkins
 Sr. Systems Specialist
  Dynacare Laboratories 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One is not idle because one is absorbed. There is both visible and invisible 
labor. To contemplate is to toil. To think is to do. 
-Victor Hugo 

Re: Anti Virus

[Alexander Pennace]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> * Slider  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Please can anyone inform me as to the best anti virus package that is
> > not going to cost me an absolute fortune and is really reliable to
> > plug onto the server side!
> 
> Use procmail to filter out all attachments. Keep a LART at hand in case
> your cow-orkers start whining. Make them fear you. Tell your management
> to release a policy on the grounds of which anyone sending or receiving
> binary attachments will be sacked immediately.  Works fine for me.

Not all binary attachments are bad. PGP/MIME signed messages (such as
this one) put the PGP signature in a MIME attachment, see
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2015.txt.

I would be very unhappy if someone was removing the PGP signatures
from my messages.

 PGP signature

Re: Anti Virus

[Robin S. Socha]

* Slider  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Your quoting is an abomination. Please fix it or refrain from using
software that simply is not meant to be used in a technical environment.

> Thanks for the tip on procmail, looking at it, it seems to be more a
> personal solution. 

It isn't. Take a look at proc.sh that comes with the source distribution.

> apologies for not being clear, is there a bulk method of scanning
> viruses?

Did you bother visiting the qmail website first?
http://www.qmail.org/top.html#microsoft
-- 
Robin S. Socha 

Re: updated load balancing qmail-qmqpc.c mods

[Frank D. Cringle]

Pavel Kankovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2 Aug 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote:
> 
> > Generating a random permutation algorithmically is not too easy.
> 
> Oh really?
> 
> [ swap each element with a randomly chosen partner ]

Yes, that will do it.  When I was originally working with this stuff
the context involved using "real" random bits and we needed to
conserve them.  In principle you only need log2(N!) bits, and then it
is hard.  I had forgotten the details.  I also made a typo in the
reference to Sedgewick's article.  It was 1977, not 1997.  Time flies
when you are having fun.

-- 
Frank Cringle,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice: (+49 2304) 467101; fax: 943357

Problems with qmail startup on OpenBSD 2.7/Intel

[Charles Roten]

I'm trying to set up a redundant "store-and-forward" mail server.  
This box will reside much farther towards our network periphery 
than the present Exchange server we are currently using.  If we 
lose a critical internal network node for, say, a day or two, the 
intent is that this box will act as a "cache" until connectivity 
is restored, then will forward the email it has been storing to 
the again-available Exchange server.  

Natch, I am a *complete* qmail newbie.  I have been over the Linux-
centric qmail HOWTO at http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html, 
and the "Life with Qmail" page at http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html

I installed the copies of daemontools and qmail bundled with OpenBSD 
2.7, since this seemd the safest and quickest way.  

I am trying to put together a system to start qmail, based on the 
instructions on Dave Sill's site.  I placed the initialization 
script he supplied in /var/qmail/etc/qmail.rc, since OpenBSD does 
not have the Solaris/Linux style of statup scripts (scripts in 
/etc/init.d, hard links/symlinks to them in /etc/rc?.d/).  This is 
symlinked to by /usr/local/bin/qmail

After installing daemontools as per Dave Sill's page, I appended the 
following lines to /etc/rc.local:

  # Daemontools stuff
  csh -cf 'svscan /service &'

  # Qmail startup
  if [ -f /var/qmail/etc/qmail.rc ]
  then
/var/qmail/etc/qmail.rc
  fi

The contents of /var/qmail/etc/rc (modified path; Dave Sill's is 
/var/qmail/rc) are as follows:

  #!/bin/sh

  # Using stdout for logging
  # Using control/defaultdelivery from qmail-local to deliver messages
by default

  exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
  qmail-start

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run, 
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/run, 
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run, and  
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/log/run
are exactly as Sill's site specifies, allowing for the changed path 
to /var/qmail/etc/rc.


When (as root), I try to start qmail with 

  /var/qmail/etc/qmail.rc start

this is the output I see:

  Starting qmail: svscan.
  # supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error
  supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error
  supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error
  supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error
  supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error
  supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error
  supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error
  supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error

The only cure is a reboot!

Can someone advise me as to what I am doing wrong?

Thanks, 
Charles

RE: Problems with qmail startup on OpenBSD 2.7/Intel

[Greg Owen]

> When (as root), I try to start qmail with 
> 
>   /var/qmail/etc/qmail.rc start
> 
> this is the output I see:
> 
>   Starting qmail: svscan.
>   # supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error
>   supervise: fatal: unable to start log/run: exec format error

Very likely, one or more of your log/run executable files
(/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run, for example) is in DOS format.
You can check this by typing 'file filename' or 'vi filename' and see if it
says it is DOS text (and type ':q!' to get out of vi afterwards).  Convert
them to DOS (see http://kb.indiana.edu/data/acux.html for some ways to
convert) and you should be fine.


-- 
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

RE: maildirmake

[Eddie Greer]

Adam,

thanks for responding.  The answer that I am trying to find is whether the
maildirmake command creates a file of any sort that keeps track of the
mailboxes.  We changed someone's mailbox, and copied the new current and tmp
directories into their mailboxes but qmail did not redirect their mail (even
after we did the maildirmake and specified their new home directory).  I am
hoping that their is a way to modified a user home directory and Maildir
folder without recreating the user from scratch.

Eddie

-Original Message-
From: Adam Langley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 2:14 PM
To: Eddie Greer
Subject: Re: maildirmake


On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 12:56:54PM -0700, Eddie Greer wrote:
> Question to all the qmail professionals:

I certainly can't claim tobe one of those

>
> when you issue the /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake command to create the
Maildir
> folder for a perspective user; where does store this information.--

The maildirmake command takes 1 argument, a directory name and creates that
directory and subdirs in the Maildir format (tmp/, new/, cur/ - look up the
format is you need). It doesn't store the information anywhere - you have to
setup .qmail files (or whatever) to point to the directory.

AGL

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Now redhat's mailling lists have been removed to mailman and postfix

[Irwan Hadi]

As you can see from the header, it doesn't use qmail anymore.

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Re: ref: qmail+mrtg+multilog mods

[Peter Green]

also sprach fontain:
> Peter Green said in June 12, that he modified the qmailmrtg stuff to work
> with multilog format
> 
> Do you have some infos on it ??? Where can I find that ???
> Or what shall I do if I want to use the qmailmrtg stuff ??

I've attached this a number of times to a number of lists. Instead, just
fetch it from

  

It works for me, it's dog-ugly, it could probably use a little more
explanation. However, of those three points, I find the first most
important. :)

Good luck!

/pg
-- 
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---
Actually, typing random strings in the Finder does the equivalent of
filename completion.
(Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of commands: file
completion vs. the Mac Finder.)

Configuring a "Store-and-Forward" backup qmail server

[Charles Roten]

I'm trying to set up a redundant "store-and-forward" mail server.  

This box will reside much farther towards our network periphery 
than the present Exchange server we are currently using.  We will 
set up a *secondary* MX record for it in DNS, so mail will only 
go to it if the primary is unavailable.  If we lose a critical 
internal network node for, say, a day or two, the intent is that 
this box will act as a "cache" until connectivity is restored, 
then will forward the email it has been storing to the again-
available Exchange server.  

I seem to have qmail running now .. thanks, again, to Greg Owen.  
The problem now is how to set it up to *forward* mail to 
*another* server.  Paul Gregg's Single UID Mailbox HOWTO, at 
http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html, 
really does not seem to be what I am looking for, since it seems 
to require a distinct entry in /var/qmail/users/assign for each 
individual user.  This is perfect for a situation where the 
server is being used to manage POP-3 accounts, but the management 
problems of this approach for a domain with, perhaps 300 to 400 
users, whose accounts are really managed at the Exchange server, 
are unreasonable.  

What I need is a configuration such that *all* emails coming into 
the foo.com domain will be stored and, once the network link to 
the primary server is back up, will be forwarded.  There doesn't 
seem to be any information at http://www.qmail.org/top.html about 
how to do *that*.  

Has anyone done something like this using qmail?  Any pointers to 
configuration data would be much appreciated.  

Thanks, 
Charles

Re: Configuring a "Store-and-Forward" backup qmail server

[James Raftery]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:03:32PM -0700, Charles Roten wrote:
> than the present Exchange server we are currently using.  We will 
> set up a *secondary* MX record for it in DNS, so mail will only 
> go to it if the primary is unavailable.  If we lose a critical 
> internal network node for, say, a day or two, the intent is that 
> this box will act as a "cache" until connectivity is restored, 
> then will forward the email it has been storing to the again-
> available Exchange server.  

Put the domains you wish the backup box to accept mail for in
control/rcpthosts. Do NOT put them into either control/local or
control/virtualdomains.

Have a /var/qmail/queue which is large enough to store the volume of
mail you expect the backup machine to take. This machine accept mail for
all domain in control/rcpthosts, queue them and attempt to deliver them
to the higher preference MX until it succeeds or 1 week passes, after
which time it will bounce the messages.

If one week is too short, put the number of seconds after which messages
should bounce in control/queuelifetime.

This is standard configuration for a backup MX.

Regards,

james
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Re: Now redhat's mailling lists have been removed to mailman and postfix

[Robin S. Socha]

* Irwan Hadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As you can see from the header, it doesn't use qmail anymore.
[...]

Well, good luck to them...

,
| -
|Red Hat, Inc. Security Advisory
| 
| Synopsis:  Updated mailman packages are available.
| Advisory ID:   RHSA-2000:030-03
| Issue date:2000-05-24
| Updated on:2000-08-03
| Product:   Red Hat Secure Web Server
| Keywords:  N/A
| Cross references:  N/A
| -
| 
| 1. Topic:
| 
| New mailman packages are available which close security holes present
| in earlier versions of mailman.
| 
| 2. Relevant releases/architectures:
| 
| Red Hat Secure Web Server 3.0 - i386
| Red Hat Secure Web Server 3.1 - i386, alpha, sparc
| Red Hat Secure Web Server 3.2 - i386
| 
| 3. Problem description:
| 
| New mailman packages are available which close security holes present
| in earlier versions of mailman.  All sites using the mailman mailing
| list management software should upgrade.
`

And what do we learn from this?
(lart@deathwish):(~)# uname -a
OpenBSD deathwish 2.7 DEATHWISH#0 i386
-- 
Robin S. Socha 

Re: Anti Virus

[Noel Mistula]

Hi,

Speaking of filtering binary attachments?
Use my method...right here.
http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1999/07/msg00518.html

just modify it at your own requirements.

cheers

Noel

-Original Message-
From: Robin S. Socha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, 3 August 2000 22:45
Subject: Re: Anti Virus


>* Slider  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Please can anyone inform me as to the best anti virus package that is
>> not going to cost me an absolute fortune and is really reliable to
>> plug onto the server side!
>
>Use procmail to filter out all attachments. Keep a LART at hand in case
>your cow-orkers start whining. Make them fear you. Tell your management
>to release a policy on the grounds of which anyone sending or receiving
>binary attachments will be sacked immediately.  Works fine for me.
>
>As an alternative, install an Operating System on the clients and get
>rid of viruses for good. Rationale: we were running 4 virus scanners at
>once and that still would not have prevented us from being infected with
>(to mention just two) Melissa and ILOVEYOU. Search freshmeat for anomy
>or sanitze or something.
>-- 
>Robin S. Socha 
>

Re: Anti Virus

[Jason Haar]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:28:38PM +0100, Slider wrote:
> Hello again!
> 
> Thanks for the tip on procmail, looking at it, it seems to be more a
> personal solution. apologies for not being clear, is there a bulk method
> of scanning viruses?

Go look at http://www.geocities.com/jhaar/scan4virus/

A Qmail-specific Email scanner that supports many Unix versions of
commercial AV scanners (e.g. Trend, MacAfeee/NAI). 

Works great - but then I'd say that ;-)

-- 
Cheers

Jason Haar

Unix/Network Specialist, Trimble NZ
Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
   

Re: Anti Virus

[Noel Mistula]

I like AV. I really do. But the thing is "all" AV are "reactive".
You can only be protected all the time iff, your dat file is updated every
minute.
But if the LoveBug or Melissa or any html borne worm
is mutating every minute then your AV dat file is useless.

the choice is yours...

cheers

Noel


-Original Message-
From: Jason Haar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, 4 August 2000 9:07
Subject: Re: Anti Virus


>On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:28:38PM +0100, Slider wrote:
>> Hello again!
>>
>> Thanks for the tip on procmail, looking at it, it seems to be more a
>> personal solution. apologies for not being clear, is there a bulk
method
>> of scanning viruses?
>
>Go look at http://www.geocities.com/jhaar/scan4virus/
>
>A Qmail-specific Email scanner that supports many Unix versions of
>commercial AV scanners (e.g. Trend, MacAfeee/NAI).
>
>Works great - but then I'd say that ;-)
>
>--
>Cheers
>
>Jason Haar
>
>Unix/Network Specialist, Trimble NZ
>Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
>
>

Re: Configuring a "Store-and-Forward" backup qmail server

[James R Grinter]

Charles Roten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What I need is a configuration such that *all* emails coming into 
> the foo.com domain will be stored and, once the network link to 
> the primary server is back up, will be forwarded.  There doesn't 
> seem to be any information at http://www.qmail.org/top.html about 
> how to do *that*.  

Easy. You just need to feed all mail for your elected domain into a
Maildir, and then use the serialmail tools when you finally want to
deliver them to the end system.

You'll need an appropriate entry in virtualdomains, the corresponding
~alias/.qmail- file, and some disk space to locate the Maildir on.

Check out the manual page for maildir2smtp. It covers it all in there.

James.

Re: Configuring a "Store-and-Forward" backup qmail server

[James R Grinter]

James Raftery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If one week is too short, put the number of seconds after which messages
> should bounce in control/queuelifetime.
> 
> This is standard configuration for a backup MX.

[I wibbled on about maildir2smtp]

James's advice is, of course, far more appropriate if you're going to
have the secondary MX there the whole time. You'll probably find that
you'll receive mail there quite often, even when you believe your
primary MX to have been available the whole time.

Just watch out for bringing your exchange server back online after
upgrades or crashes before you've configured it to accept your
domain's email. I've seen huge amounts of bounces for mailing lists
happen for cases like that.

James.

Re: Configuring a "Store-and-Forward" backup qmail server

[David Dyer-Bennet]

James R Grinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 4 August 2000 at 00:22:25 +0100
 > Charles Roten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 > > What I need is a configuration such that *all* emails coming into 
 > > the foo.com domain will be stored and, once the network link to 
 > > the primary server is back up, will be forwarded.  There doesn't 
 > > seem to be any information at http://www.qmail.org/top.html about 
 > > how to do *that*.  
 > 
 > Easy. You just need to feed all mail for your elected domain into a
 > Maildir, and then use the serialmail tools when you finally want to
 > deliver them to the end system.
 > 
 > You'll need an appropriate entry in virtualdomains, the corresponding
 > ~alias/.qmail- file, and some disk space to locate the Maildir on.
 > 
 > Check out the manual page for maildir2smtp. It covers it all in there.

But do bear in mind that in "normal" operation a small percentage of
mail will end up at the secondary MX, because of remote DNS and
network outages and sheer perversity of the universe.   I was
originally going to have all the mail at the secondary held, and
trigger delivery to the primary manually (so it wouldn't catch some
intermediate state where the primary wasn't realy back up yet), but
that approach won't work because mail will sit at the secondary
without your noticing because the primary was never down.  So I now
have a process that does maildir2smtp every 10 minutes, and I hope I
remember to stop it before I start working on recovering the primary.  
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sslwrap problems

[Adam McKenna]

I've been having problems running sslwrap out of inetd so I decided to run it
via tcpserver instead..  I'm using svscan.  But for some reason, the logs
refuse to go to /var/log/qmail/ssl/.

Here's my "run" file:

#!/bin/sh
PATH=$PATH:/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin

exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 1000 \
tcpserver -u65534 -g65534 0 995 /usr/sbin/sslwrap \
-cert /etc/sslwrap/server.pem -port 110 -without_pid

and here's log/run:

#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t s250
/var/log/qmail/ssl

Now, the files get created:

orbicus:/var/qmail/supervise/ssl# ls -l /var/log/qmail/ssl/
total 0
-rw-r--r--1 qmaill   nogroup 0 Aug  3 17:38 current
-rw---1 qmaill   nogroup 0 Aug  3 17:38 lock
-rw-r--r--1 qmaill   nogroup 0 Aug  3 17:38 state

But, nothing ever gets logged there.  The logs go to the terminal I started
svscan from.

I am pretty sure svscan expects the logging to come through on a certain file
descriptor, but not positive.  Does anyone know if this is the case?  If so,
which one is it?  Should I just add a 2>&1 at the end of "run"?

--Adam

Re: sslwrap problems

[Ian Lance Taylor]

   Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:58:26 -0400
   From: Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   I am pretty sure svscan expects the logging to come through on a certain file
   descriptor, but not positive.  Does anyone know if this is the case?  If so,
   which one is it?  Should I just add a 2>&1 at the end of "run"?

svscan simply creates a pipe.  That is, it redirects stdout of ./run
to stdin of ./log/run.  It doesn't do anything with stderr.  If your
program logs to stderr, then 2>&1 in ./run will redirect the logs to
the stdout of ./run and hence to the stdin of ./log/run.  So that
should fix your problem.

Ian

Re: sslwrap problems

[Adam McKenna]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:08:10PM -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> svscan simply creates a pipe.  That is, it redirects stdout of ./run
> to stdin of ./log/run.  It doesn't do anything with stderr.  If your
> program logs to stderr, then 2>&1 in ./run will redirect the logs to
> the stdout of ./run and hence to the stdin of ./log/run.  So that
> should fix your problem.

Yeah, that's what I figured, just wanted to double check before changing it.

(When running under inetd, the errors get printed out to the tcp connection!)

--Adam

Maildir archiving

[Michael T. Babcock]

I'm looking for an easy way to archive old messages in a Maildir (by
compressing them, like the gzip patch does, perhaps) for users who don't
believe in deleting old mail (especially their sent mail folder).
Incidentally, its an IMAP system, with several Maildirs (courier-imap).

eg:
scan folders, find messages older than 3 months and
1) (maybe) move to different folder with (3 month ago's) date attached
2) compress messages

I prefer something with the moving of the files as listing the contents
of the folder becomes much faster.

--
Michael T. Babcock (PGP: 0xBE6C1895)
http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/

Re: Maildir archiving

[Ben Beuchler]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:15:07PM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote:

> I'm looking for an easy way to archive old messages in a Maildir (by
> compressing them, like the gzip patch does, perhaps) for users who don't
> believe in deleting old mail (especially their sent mail folder).
> Incidentally, its an IMAP system, with several Maildirs (courier-imap).
> 
> eg:
> scan folders, find messages older than 3 months and
> 1) (maybe) move to different folder with (3 month ago's) date attached
> 2) compress messages

find /Maildir/ -mtime 90 -print |xargs mv /somewhere/else
tar czvf mail.tgz /somewhere/else

-- 
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MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101
Bitstream Underground   www.bitstream.net

Re: Maildir archiving

[Ben Beuchler]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:30:00PM -0500, Ben Beuchler wrote:

> find /Maildir/ -mtime 90 -print |xargs mv /somewhere/else
> tar czvf mail.tgz /somewhere/else

Oops.  Of course, there should be a "+" in front of that 90...


find /Maildir/ -mtime +90 -print |xargs mv /somewhere/else
tar czvf mail.tgz /somewhere/else

-- 
Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101
Bitstream Underground   www.bitstream.net

Re: Now redhat's mailling lists have been removed to mailman and postfix

[Irwan Hadi]

At 10:43 PM 8/3/00 +0200, Robin S. Socha wrote:
>* Irwan Hadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > As you can see from the header, it doesn't use qmail anymore.
>[...]
>
>Well, good luck to them...

and seems
, PayPal/Confinity, Red Hat's mailing lists, Hypermart.net, Casema,
^^
Rediffmail.co.in, Topica, MyNet.com.tr, FSmail.net, and vuurwerk.nl.

at www.qmail.org/top.html should be removed right ?

Re: Mailing list performance

[P.Y. Adi Prasaja]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:14:32AM -0400, Dave Sill wrote:
> >then one can make a conclusion that the authors no nothing about
> >postfix. /etc/postfix/master.cf has nothing todo with concurrency
> >control in postfix, at least if he think that it has the same fashion
> >as qmail.
> 
> He apparently confused incoming concurrency with outgoing
> concurrency. Luckily, Postfix defaults to 50, so the results are still 
> valid.

Then you wrong either :-)

Default _maximum_ concurrency is 10, but postfix will use 'slow
start' strategy, then the concurrency will started at 5, it would be
increased, slowly, as long as the remote host happily accept (all of
these are configurable).

Even though the author increase the number at master.cf, say 1000 (as
I said that it has nothing todo with concurrency, neither incoming nor
outgoing, beside the fact that there are no _incoming/outgoing_
concurrency in postfix, the number is for differrent purpose).
then the concurrency still be limited to 10 and will started at 5,
etc... etc...

Salam,

P.Y. Adi Prasaja

Re: duplicating sendmail's virtusertable

[Sam Carleton]

Ben Beuchler wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 08:52:16PM -0400, Sam Carleton wrote:
> 
> > I am switching over to qmail from sendmail.  I am no expert in sendmail,
> > I simply know that sendmail's virtusertable would allow incoming mail
> > sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be mapped to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I need
> > to do this with qmail, how do I go about doing that?
> >
> > I also need to change the from header from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I am trying to stealth my user account because
> > it is the only account able to su in as root.  I would prefer if folks
> > do not know the user name on the account:)  (No, it isn't sam, that is
> > simply my example )
> 
> Both of these can be accomplished using fastforward, available from
> http://www.qmail.org.

I have installed fastforward and I am aliasing incoming mail from
sam.carleton@domain to sam@domain, but I do not have a clue as to how to
use fastforward to change the From: header on out going mail from
sam@domain to sam.carleton@domain.  Can someone enlighten me?

sam

Re: Anti Virus

[Eric Cox]

Alexander Pennace wrote:
> 
> Not all binary attachments are bad. PGP/MIME signed messages (such as
> this one) put the PGP signature in a MIME attachment, see
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2015.txt.
> 
> I would be very unhappy if someone was removing the PGP signatures
> from my messages.

What PGP signatures?  



:-)


Eric

Re: duplicating sendmail's virtusertable

[David Dyer-Bennet]

Sam Carleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 3 August 2000 at 23:05:47 -0400

 > I have installed fastforward and I am aliasing incoming mail from
 > sam.carleton@domain to sam@domain, but I do not have a clue as to how to
 > use fastforward to change the From: header on out going mail from
 > sam@domain to sam.carleton@domain.  Can someone enlighten me?

Fastforward doesn't need to be involved for the outbound mail; you can
get whatever header and envelope settings you want by setting
appropriate environment variables in the user environment when
qmail-inject is called to send the mail (including via the sendmail
wrapper).  See the discussion of environment variables in man
qmail-inject. 
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using fetchmail on qmail machine

[Vincent Danen]

I've got an interesting thing that I can't quite figure out.  It
works, but I'm wondering if this is normal.  I've got a user who is
reading/writing email on a machine with qmail as the MTA for the
domain pellaria.com.  Her email address belongs to the domain
danen.net, which is run on another qmail machine about 5 feet from
her.

I'm using fetchmail to retrieve the email from danen.net, which in
turn sends it to localhost on the pellaria.com machine.  At first
qmail refused to deliver it since fetchmail was sending it to
"adanen@localhost" and qmail was complaining about localhost not
being in control/locals.

Is this normal?  I'm running fetchmail with the --invisible option,
but I'm not sure if it's necessary or not.  I was kind of under the
impression that qmail should deliver the mail to localhost
regardless.  If the username matches to a local user, why not deliver
it?  Obviously I don't want to rewrite the mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] because that is not the "preferred" email
address, and she wants to know who is sending to what address (she
has two, one at danen.net and another with our ISP).

The reason I ask is because she is my guineau(sp?) pig.  =)  My work
machine runs sendmail for the mailer but I'd like to switch it to
qmail as well, but I'm hesitant because I get far more mail than she
does.  =)

I was going to use getmail until I found out it delivered directly
to the maildir, which is not what I want (I need to use procmail to
filter mailing lists into seperate mailboxes).

I have written down somewhere how to use procmail in the .qmail file
with preline (I think).  Need to dig that up.

Can someone let me know if the adding localhost to control/locals is
the "normal" behaviour?  I think a lot of people would like to use
qmail as their own MTA instead of sendmail or postfix, so knowing
this would be of great help to me.

Thanks.

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Re: using fetchmail on qmail machine

[Peter Green]

also sprach vdanen:
> Can someone let me know if the adding localhost to control/locals is
> the "normal" behaviour?  I think a lot of people would like to use
> qmail as their own MTA instead of sendmail or postfix, so knowing
> this would be of great help to me.

I don't know if it's the ``normal'' behavior, but I have localhost in my
control/locals with the identical setup to you.

/pg
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---
Sigh.  I like to think it's just the Linux people who want to be on
the "leading edge" so bad they walk right off the precipice.
(Craig E. Groeschel)

RE: Anti Virus

[Brett Randall]

On another note...

Our organisation has an NT (sorry :> ) box which acts as the primary MX
server for our domain. All mail goes to it and gets scanned via the
(brilliant, automatic, no-maintenance) Norton Antivirus Enterprise software
(worth a little money but what is your company's data worth to you?). It
then just relays it on to the internal mail machine (via an MX lookup in the
internal DNS for the same domain as the e-mail was sent to). We route
several domains through the one server, and it works like a dream!

Brett.

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

RE: Anti Virus

[Brett Randall]

Sorry, forgot to add that we use Norton Antivirus as a 'plug-in' for the
Lotus Notes e-mail server on our internet-viewable SMTP machine. This of
course adds the possibility of much more functionality, which we use as if
it was sand on the beach in summer, but that's up to your organisation's
needs :>

Brett

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/



> -Original Message-
> From: Brett Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 3:44 PM
> To: qmail
> Subject: RE: Anti Virus
>
>
> On another note...
>
> Our organisation has an NT (sorry :> ) box which acts as the
> primary MX server for our domain. All mail goes to it and gets
> scanned via the (brilliant, automatic, no-maintenance) Norton
> Antivirus Enterprise software (worth a little money but what is
> your company's data worth to you?). It then just relays it on to
> the internal mail machine (via an MX lookup in the internal DNS
> for the same domain as the e-mail was sent to). We route several
> domains through the one server, and it works like a dream!
>
> Brett.
>
> Manager
> InterPlanetary Solutions
> http://ipsware.com/
>

Re: Anti Virus

[Noel Mistula]

But then again, scripts kiddies are "Always" one step
ahead compared to the dat files of your beautiful Norton Enterprise
Antivirus.

cheers

Noel

-Original Message-
From: Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: qmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, 4 August 2000 15:51
Subject: RE: Anti Virus


>Sorry, forgot to add that we use Norton Antivirus as a 'plug-in' for the
>Lotus Notes e-mail server on our internet-viewable SMTP machine. This of
>course adds the possibility of much more functionality, which we use as if
>it was sand on the beach in summer, but that's up to your organisation's
>needs :>
>
>Brett
>
>Manager
>InterPlanetary Solutions
>http://ipsware.com/
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Brett Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 3:44 PM
>> To: qmail
>> Subject: RE: Anti Virus
>>
>>
>> On another note...
>>
>> Our organisation has an NT (sorry :> ) box which acts as the
>> primary MX server for our domain. All mail goes to it and gets
>> scanned via the (brilliant, automatic, no-maintenance) Norton
>> Antivirus Enterprise software (worth a little money but what is
>> your company's data worth to you?). It then just relays it on to
>> the internal mail machine (via an MX lookup in the internal DNS
>> for the same domain as the e-mail was sent to). We route several
>> domains through the one server, and it works like a dream!
>>
>> Brett.
>>
>> Manager
>> InterPlanetary Solutions
>> http://ipsware.com/
>>
>
>

RE: Anti Virus

[Brett Randall]

True, and I shouldn't have recommended Norton Enterprise without the use of
some other filtering software to hold back the yucky vbs, sh, ... files, but
even then our organisation (and how many others?) deals with corporations
from all over the world who do various bits of work for us - art,
programming, web site design...I guess corporate policy and training is the
best solution but a combo of good anti-virus software and good filtering
software (perhaps something to alert sysadmin with it the script attached so
it can be verified and either permanently banned or passed through?) would
do most people fairly well...

Brett.

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/



> -Original Message-
> From: Noel Mistula [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:02 PM
> To: Brett Randall; qmail
> Subject: Re: Anti Virus
>
>
> But then again, scripts kiddies are "Always" one step
> ahead compared to the dat files of your beautiful Norton Enterprise
> Antivirus.
>
> cheers
>
> Noel
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: qmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, 4 August 2000 15:51
> Subject: RE: Anti Virus
>
>
> >Sorry, forgot to add that we use Norton Antivirus as a 'plug-in' for the
> >Lotus Notes e-mail server on our internet-viewable SMTP machine. This of
> >course adds the possibility of much more functionality, which we
> use as if
> >it was sand on the beach in summer, but that's up to your organisation's
> >needs :>
> >
> >Brett
> >
> >Manager
> >InterPlanetary Solutions
> >http://ipsware.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Brett Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 3:44 PM
> >> To: qmail
> >> Subject: RE: Anti Virus
> >>
> >>
> >> On another note...
> >>
> >> Our organisation has an NT (sorry :> ) box which acts as the
> >> primary MX server for our domain. All mail goes to it and gets
> >> scanned via the (brilliant, automatic, no-maintenance) Norton
> >> Antivirus Enterprise software (worth a little money but what is
> >> your company's data worth to you?). It then just relays it on to
> >> the internal mail machine (via an MX lookup in the internal DNS
> >> for the same domain as the e-mail was sent to). We route several
> >> domains through the one server, and it works like a dream!
> >>
> >> Brett.
> >>
> >> Manager
> >> InterPlanetary Solutions
> >> http://ipsware.com/
> >>
> >
> >
>