[qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel for fresh install

2008-11-25 Thread Jim Bassett
Hi. I have a new CentOS 5.2 installation. I have attempted to use qtp- 
newmodel to do a fresh install of qmail toaster. There was a recent  
thread on the list asking about this although it was never resolved  
whether it was possible or not. I have done it. The builds failed at  
numerous places due to missing dependencies, but once everything  
needed was installed qtp-newmodel appears to have built and installed  
qmail toaster successfully. Very cool. My one problem is that mysql  
was not configured for vpopmail (no vpopmail user; no vpopmail  
database) so I can't add any domains. If I try to do /home/vpopmail/ 
bin/vadddomain I get: Error - no authentication database connection.  
Initial open. (obviously, since MySQL doesn't have the user/database!)


Any suggestions on the best way to make the vpopmail user and database  
in mysql? I have another installation I could just copy by hand, but  
is there something I could just run that would make everything?


MySQL was not running when I installed via qtp-newmodel. Would qtp- 
newmodel have made the database and mysql user if MySQL had been  
running? If so, can I just uninstall qmailtoaster and install it again  
with qtp-newmodel (and MySQL running this time?) If so, what is the  
best way to do this? I can't find anything on the wiki about  
uninstalling.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel for fresh install

2008-11-25 Thread DG

Jim Bassett wrote:
Hi. I have a new CentOS 5.2 installation. I have attempted to use 
qtp-newmodel to do a fresh install of qmail toaster. There was a 
recent thread on the list asking about this although it was never 
resolved whether it was possible or not. I have done it. The builds 
failed at numerous places due to missing dependencies, but once 
everything needed was installed qtp-newmodel appears to have built and 
installed qmail toaster successfully. Very cool. My one problem is 
that mysql was not configured for vpopmail (no vpopmail user; no 
vpopmail database) so I can't add any domains. If I try to do 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vadddomain I get: Error - no authentication 
database connection. Initial open. (obviously, since MySQL doesn't 
have the user/database!)


Any suggestions on the best way to make the vpopmail user and database 
in mysql? I have another installation I could just copy by hand, but 
is there something I could just run that would make everything?


MySQL was not running when I installed via qtp-newmodel. Would 
qtp-newmodel have made the database and mysql user if MySQL had been 
running? If so, can I just uninstall qmailtoaster and install it again 
with qtp-newmodel (and MySQL running this time?) If so, what is the 
best way to do this? I can't find anything on the wiki about 
uninstalling.


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one of the manual setup scripts (bash) adds the vpopmail user and 
database and chkconfig's it on...prolly the mysql-setup.sh from the cos5 
directory...available from the main site.  edit the script first, 
because it also sets the password.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel for fresh install

2008-11-25 Thread Lucian Cristian

You only need to run the script that make the database

I always used the newmodel for fresh installs, but be attentive at 
clamav it tends not to install correctly, maybe this version is working 
ok using newmodel


Regards,
Lucian

Jim Bassett wrote:
Hi. I have a new CentOS 5.2 installation. I have attempted to use 
qtp-newmodel to do a fresh install of qmail toaster. There was a 
recent thread on the list asking about this although it was never 
resolved whether it was possible or not. I have done it. The builds 
failed at numerous places due to missing dependencies, but once 
everything needed was installed qtp-newmodel appears to have built and 
installed qmail toaster successfully. Very cool. My one problem is 
that mysql was not configured for vpopmail (no vpopmail user; no 
vpopmail database) so I can't add any domains. If I try to do 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vadddomain I get: Error - no authentication 
database connection. Initial open. (obviously, since MySQL doesn't 
have the user/database!)


Any suggestions on the best way to make the vpopmail user and database 
in mysql? I have another installation I could just copy by hand, but 
is there something I could just run that would make everything?


MySQL was not running when I installed via qtp-newmodel. Would 
qtp-newmodel have made the database and mysql user if MySQL had been 
running? If so, can I just uninstall qmailtoaster and install it again 
with qtp-newmodel (and MySQL running this time?) If so, what is the 
best way to do this? I can't find anything on the wiki about 
uninstalling.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel for fresh install

2008-11-25 Thread Chris Hillman
I ran in to the same issue - I think this will fix it...

Run the following as root on your mysql server:

create database vpopmail;
grant all on vpopmail.*
to 'vpopmail'@'localhost'
identified by 'yourpasswordhere';
flush privileges;

Then, from the FAQ:

Change the /home/vpopmail/etc/vpopmail.mysql file with your new
password, from your favorite editor.

Cheers,
Chris

-Original Message-
From: Jim Bassett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:37 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel for fresh install

Hi. I have a new CentOS 5.2 installation. I have attempted to use qtp- 
newmodel to do a fresh install of qmail toaster. There was a recent  
thread on the list asking about this although it was never resolved  
whether it was possible or not. I have done it. The builds failed at  
numerous places due to missing dependencies, but once everything  
needed was installed qtp-newmodel appears to have built and installed  
qmail toaster successfully. Very cool. My one problem is that mysql  
was not configured for vpopmail (no vpopmail user; no vpopmail  
database) so I can't add any domains. If I try to do /home/vpopmail/ 
bin/vadddomain I get: Error - no authentication database connection.  
Initial open. (obviously, since MySQL doesn't have the user/database!)

Any suggestions on the best way to make the vpopmail user and database  
in mysql? I have another installation I could just copy by hand, but  
is there something I could just run that would make everything?

MySQL was not running when I installed via qtp-newmodel. Would qtp- 
newmodel have made the database and mysql user if MySQL had been  
running? If so, can I just uninstall qmailtoaster and install it again  
with qtp-newmodel (and MySQL running this time?) If so, what is the  
best way to do this? I can't find anything on the wiki about  
uninstalling.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Received: from unknown (HELO xxxx.xxxx.xx ) (127.0.0.1)??

2008-11-25 Thread raunak
But I'm using the standard squirrel installation in the qmail toaster
virtual appliance.. is there some way i can edit the squirrel hostname?

Regards,
Raunak

 Unknown is the host from where the mail sent using a mail client (outlook
 etc.) and mail server was unable to resolve the hostname for that host, i
 think so.


 Regards,

 Anil Aliyan

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 Hi,
 Just did a qmail virtual appliance install. I've edited the hostnames
 where ever required. My entire email header seems to be perfect , except
 for this
 Received: from unknown (HELO xxx.xxx.xxx ) (127.0.0.1)
 the HELO contains the host name , but where are the unknown and
 127.0.0.1
 coming from?
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Received: from unknown (HELO xxxx.xxxx.xx ) (127.0.0.1)??

2008-11-25 Thread Eric Shubert
Squirrelmail parameters are in the /etc/squirrelmain directory. The 
config.php file contains base (stock) package parameters. You can make 
modifications in the config_local.php file. Looks like $domain might be 
what you're looking for.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But I'm using the standard squirrel installation in the qmail toaster
virtual appliance.. is there some way i can edit the squirrel hostname?

Regards,
Raunak


Unknown is the host from where the mail sent using a mail client (outlook
etc.) and mail server was unable to resolve the hostname for that host, i
think so.


Regards,

Anil Aliyan

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Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:39 AM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Received: from unknown (HELO ..xx )
(127.0.0.1)??



Hi,
Just did a qmail virtual appliance install. I've edited the hostnames
where ever required. My entire email header seems to be perfect , except
for this
Received: from unknown (HELO xxx.xxx.xxx ) (127.0.0.1)
the HELO contains the host name , but where are the unknown and
127.0.0.1
coming from?
raunak




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Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel for fresh install

2008-11-25 Thread Jim Bassett
Hey thanks, that worked. I thought I had to recreate the specific  
tables too, but it looks like that gets taken care of for you as long  
as you have the user and database in MySQL. Super easy.




On Nov 25, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Chris Hillman wrote:


I ran in to the same issue - I think this will fix it...

Run the following as root on your mysql server:

create database vpopmail;
grant all on vpopmail.*
to 'vpopmail'@'localhost'
identified by 'yourpasswordhere';
flush privileges;

Then, from the FAQ:

Change the /home/vpopmail/etc/vpopmail.mysql file with your new
password, from your favorite editor.

Cheers,
Chris

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From: Jim Bassett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:37 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel for fresh install

Hi. I have a new CentOS 5.2 installation. I have attempted to use qtp-
newmodel to do a fresh install of qmail toaster. There was a recent
thread on the list asking about this although it was never resolved
whether it was possible or not. I have done it. The builds failed at
numerous places due to missing dependencies, but once everything
needed was installed qtp-newmodel appears to have built and installed
qmail toaster successfully. Very cool. My one problem is that mysql
was not configured for vpopmail (no vpopmail user; no vpopmail
database) so I can't add any domains. If I try to do /home/vpopmail/
bin/vadddomain I get: Error - no authentication database connection.
Initial open. (obviously, since MySQL doesn't have the user/ 
database!)


Any suggestions on the best way to make the vpopmail user and database
in mysql? I have another installation I could just copy by hand, but
is there something I could just run that would make everything?

MySQL was not running when I installed via qtp-newmodel. Would qtp-
newmodel have made the database and mysql user if MySQL had been
running? If so, can I just uninstall qmailtoaster and install it again
with qtp-newmodel (and MySQL running this time?) If so, what is the
best way to do this? I can't find anything on the wiki about
uninstalling.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel for fresh install

2008-11-25 Thread Eric Shubert

Lucian,

Let me know the next time you have a problem with newmodel and clamav, 
and I'll see about fixing it. You can always create a ticket at 
qtp.qmailtoaster.com too. ;)


Lucian Cristian wrote:

You only need to run the script that make the database

I always used the newmodel for fresh installs, but be attentive at 
clamav it tends not to install correctly, maybe this version is working 
ok using newmodel


Regards,
Lucian

Jim Bassett wrote:
Hi. I have a new CentOS 5.2 installation. I have attempted to use 
qtp-newmodel to do a fresh install of qmail toaster. There was a 
recent thread on the list asking about this although it was never 
resolved whether it was possible or not. I have done it. The builds 
failed at numerous places due to missing dependencies, but once 
everything needed was installed qtp-newmodel appears to have built and 
installed qmail toaster successfully. Very cool. My one problem is 
that mysql was not configured for vpopmail (no vpopmail user; no 
vpopmail database) so I can't add any domains. If I try to do 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vadddomain I get: Error - no authentication 
database connection. Initial open. (obviously, since MySQL doesn't 
have the user/database!)


Any suggestions on the best way to make the vpopmail user and database 
in mysql? I have another installation I could just copy by hand, but 
is there something I could just run that would make everything?


MySQL was not running when I installed via qtp-newmodel. Would 
qtp-newmodel have made the database and mysql user if MySQL had been 
running? If so, can I just uninstall qmailtoaster and install it again 
with qtp-newmodel (and MySQL running this time?) If so, what is the 
best way to do this? I can't find anything on the wiki about 
uninstalling.


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[qmailtoaster] yahoo deferrals fix

2008-11-25 Thread Paul Heard
I am having major issues with all outgoing emails to yahoo being deferred.
Have filled out all the postmaster forms and installed domain keys to no
avail.
Yahoo really sucks...

As a temporary fix, I have added a qmailctl doqueue cron task to run every
minute
To try to create more attempts and get the mails delivered.

It seems to be working but I wonder what the pitfalls are here at higher
loads...

Am I playing with fire here?

Thanks so much... 

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Re: [qmailtoaster] yahoo deferrals fix

2008-11-25 Thread Jake Vickers

Paul Heard wrote:

I am having major issues with all outgoing emails to yahoo being deferred.
Have filled out all the postmaster forms and installed domain keys to no
avail.
Yahoo really sucks...

As a temporary fix, I have added a qmailctl doqueue cron task to run every
minute
To try to create more attempts and get the mails delivered.

It seems to be working but I wonder what the pitfalls are here at higher
loads...

Am I playing with fire here?

  


If they're anything like AOL, you're playing with fire and gasoline.
AOL will keep en eye on your redelivery attempts for deferred messages 
and score you higher and eventually block you if you attempt too many 
deliveries in a specific timeframe.
In my experience, when you employ domainkeys you need to have them in 
DNS for 10-15 days before Yahoo will start to pick them up.  DKIM takes 
2-7 days as well.  I also have 2 Yahoo accounts that I will send mail to 
for new servers and when they come in make sure they're not marked as 
spam and add addresses to the contact list - this gets them whitelist 
preference from what I've seen.
Also check your SPF records.  They should also be giving you a message 
when they defer you.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] yahoo deferrals fix

2008-11-25 Thread Paul Heard
Thanks Jake, you rule.

My SPF records checkout, I have been manually running doqueue just to clear
get the mail delivered.

I have no problems with AOL.

I will try the yahoo account method thanks!

I am getting the typical 421 deferred message over and over again.

Eventually the messages go through if I continue to flush the queue,
But if I leave it alone a lot of them time out the next day and I get the
NDR from my box.

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Sincerely,

Paul Heard

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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:24 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] yahoo deferrals fix

Paul Heard wrote:
 I am having major issues with all outgoing emails to yahoo being deferred.
 Have filled out all the postmaster forms and installed domain keys to no
 avail.
 Yahoo really sucks...

 As a temporary fix, I have added a qmailctl doqueue cron task to run every
 minute
 To try to create more attempts and get the mails delivered.

 It seems to be working but I wonder what the pitfalls are here at higher
 loads...

 Am I playing with fire here?

   

If they're anything like AOL, you're playing with fire and gasoline.
AOL will keep en eye on your redelivery attempts for deferred messages 
and score you higher and eventually block you if you attempt too many 
deliveries in a specific timeframe.
In my experience, when you employ domainkeys you need to have them in 
DNS for 10-15 days before Yahoo will start to pick them up.  DKIM takes 
2-7 days as well.  I also have 2 Yahoo accounts that I will send mail to 
for new servers and when they come in make sure they're not marked as 
spam and add addresses to the contact list - this gets them whitelist 
preference from what I've seen.
Also check your SPF records.  They should also be giving you a message 
when they defer you.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] yahoo deferrals fix

2008-11-25 Thread Jake Vickers

Paul Heard wrote:

Thanks Jake, you rule.

My SPF records checkout, I have been manually running doqueue just to clear
get the mail delivered.

I have no problems with AOL.

I will try the yahoo account method thanks!

I am getting the typical 421 deferred message over and over again.

Eventually the messages go through if I continue to flush the queue,
But if I leave it alone a lot of them time out the next day and I get the
NDR from my box.

  


That's strange. Qmail will attempt to redeliver the message every 5 
minutes until queuelifetime is met, so it should eventually make it out.
I am just warning you that Yahoo may treat your behavior like AOL 
would.  Yahoo also has a guilty-until-proven-innocent policy on email.
In there deferred messages there should be a link in there that explains 
why you were deferred. Hopefully!



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RE: [qmailtoaster] yahoo deferrals fix

2008-11-25 Thread Paul Heard
Hi Jake,

Not sure why qmail is not succeeding in the 5 minute retries.
I have my contacts in my yahoo account I just checked.
They have been in there for weeks, still not whitelisted.
I will create a few more accounts to see if it helps...

I have filled out the postmaster forms at yahoo at least a half dozen times,
Still no help on their end.

The link in the smtp message is to the typical;

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html

which resolves to

http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/postmaster-22.html

Yahoo is a clown show...

I am not sending any bulk mailings,
Purely 1-1 correspondence for my clients.

It's ridiculous.

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Paul Heard

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Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] yahoo deferrals fix

Paul Heard wrote:
 Thanks Jake, you rule.

 My SPF records checkout, I have been manually running doqueue just to
clear
 get the mail delivered.

 I have no problems with AOL.

 I will try the yahoo account method thanks!

 I am getting the typical 421 deferred message over and over again.

 Eventually the messages go through if I continue to flush the queue,
 But if I leave it alone a lot of them time out the next day and I get the
 NDR from my box.

   

That's strange. Qmail will attempt to redeliver the message every 5 
minutes until queuelifetime is met, so it should eventually make it out.
I am just warning you that Yahoo may treat your behavior like AOL 
would.  Yahoo also has a guilty-until-proven-innocent policy on email.
In there deferred messages there should be a link in there that explains 
why you were deferred. Hopefully!


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