Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question
yeah Andre... Your are right and clearly explain us how you make QtCreator best every day... First let's me say that QtCreator make me fall in love developing Qt Apps ! So you have done a very good job for Qt and your users. Thank you. On the other side, in fact, everyone is looking for his own perfect IDE but which was out-of-the-box made by someone else than himself if possible... We are som many user that you have to do choices and you made the good ones for me even if I have some dreams about features in QtCreator. I do not complain about them. I am waiting that they come in a future release.. to be able to say : Wooh, they did it ! We could understand that for some features we have to be patient. If we could not wait, we have to choose a better IDE (is it existing one ? :)) or make the modifications we want to this one. The sources are provided (it seem to me that MSVC doesn't, isn't it ?)... Keep on going. We are behind you ! Thank's for all you do. Best regards Stéphane Ps : sorry if there are some mistakes in my English. Hope you could understand what I mean. ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question
Danny Price, Friday 20 November 2009:
I would consider the abilty to rename a file more fundamental to an IDE
than supporting every major source control solution under the sun.
Source-control support in IDEs is generally mediocre, if it exists at
all, and most developers use dedicated source control clients or the
command line. And dedicated solutions will always beat a one-size-fits
all IDE.
Please take into consideration, that you might not stand for the majority
of users. I for example consider the source-control integration mandatory
and working fine, 90% of my (SVN) operations I can do directly from
Creator.
I don't stand for the majority of Creator users either, since I don't even
code Qt programs with {q|c}make and git, but normal C++ programs with
autotools and SVN. But the few things that I missed, I have been able to
add easily myself and some even got merged into mainline Creator.
You seem to be spending a _lot_ of time posting to the Creator mailing
list about features you are missing. Of course it's useful for developers
to hear suggestions from their users, but also as you said:
But we're all developers on this list [...]
That is completely right, and that's why I think there should be a bit of
a balance on how much time one spends talking about Creator and coding on
it.
Please don't get me wrong... it's fine if a feature request is made (maybe
the new bug tracker is also better for that than the mailing list?). But
then don't write again and again how important this or that feature is and
how Creator is completely useless without it. That's simply a PITA for all
readers of the list (or at least me and a few more as that discussion has
shown).
Thanks,
Frank
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Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question
Well said. Personally I can live without file system integration as anything complicated SVN-wise I can do with the awesome TortoiseSVN plugin. Alt-Tabing to an Explroer window when I need to rename files is not the end of the world. Qt Creator is a superb product and I am forever evangelising about it to co-workers and fellow programmers. My only gripe is with the 'session' system which is well documented here. :) I think the Trolls have done an amazing job with this product, and considering it's only a 1.x release, the features are impressive - I much prefer editing C++ code using this IDE than I do MSVC (even with the Visual Assist plugin.) So, well done to all involved and long may the good work continue. 2009/11/19 Andre Poenitz andre.poen...@mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 03:34:25PM +, Danny Price wrote: I'm fairly certain both VisualStudio 1.0 and Eclipse 1.0 had the ability to rename source files. Danny, if the developers of VS and Eclipse had enough resources to spent to integrate cross-platform, cross-VCS file manager capabilities, so, well, I admit it, I envy them. I don't have these resources, and the ones I have I rather spent not on duplicating functionality that is already available in abundance on everybody's desktop - at least not as long as there is a long wish list of more important things. Everybody who wants to have a file manager can have that rather easily, VCS integration inclusive. Switching applications every now and then might be inconvenient and cumbersome, but it's a process that can be handled resonably well by most programmers. On the other hand, not all of them can read the contents of a QHash by looking at the d pointer in gdb, so at least for me it's pretty clear what's going to the top and what to the bottom of the todo list... Andre' ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Commenting breakpoint
On Friday 20 November 2009 12:01:43 ext GenaCid wrote: Hi! I've noticed a bug(feature?): comment breakpoint doesn't disable it. If it's a feature, it's a little confusing especially when commenting a big piece of code. It's not an intentional feature, it's just what happens if one does not implementing anything special. Andre' ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Commenting breakpoint
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:01:43PM +0100, ext GenaCid wrote: I've noticed a bug(feature?): comment breakpoint doesn't disable it. If it's a feature, it's a little confusing especially when commenting a big piece of code. that's completely expected. the debugger will set the breakpoint at the next location it can. if you think about it, that's the only sensible course of action, as seemingly obvious locations often don't actually produce any executable code - think function headers. ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question
Fairly often as I'm working on prototype interface classes and data frameworks. Lots of refactoring. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Oswald Buddenhagen oswald.buddenha...@nokia.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:45:00AM +0100, ext Danny Price wrote: Five laborious steps! and how often do you have to execute those steps (several files at a time don't count)? ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Commenting breakpoint
André Pönitz wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009 12:01:43 ext GenaCid wrote: Hi! I've noticed a bug(feature?): comment breakpoint doesn't disable it. If it's a feature, it's a little confusing especially when commenting a big piece of code. It's not an intentional feature, it's just what happens if one does not implementing anything special. I understand that this is how gdb works but IMHO this is a bug, not a feature... Not very serious though :-) Abdel. ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Commenting breakpoint
On Friday 20 November 2009 13:42:28 ext Abdel Younes wrote: André Pönitz wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009 12:01:43 ext GenaCid wrote: Hi! I've noticed a bug(feature?): comment breakpoint doesn't disable it. If it's a feature, it's a little confusing especially when commenting a big piece of code. It's not an intentional feature, it's just what happens if one does not implementing anything special. I understand that this is how gdb works but IMHO this is a bug, not a feature... Not very serious though :-) I think it makes sense that gdb moves the breakpoint to the next line for which actual code was generated. That's almost always the thing I'd like to see happen. Otherwise I'd have to poke around to find out which lines generated code, i.e. is 'elegible' to receive a breakpoint, and which aren't. Andre' ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
[Qt-creator] 'Build settings - General - with tool chain GCC' cannot be changed in Qt Creator 1.2.94
Hi All, I'm trying Qt Creator 1.3 RC and when I want to build a Symbian app for the emulator and the only option I have for building is the tool chain GCC, so I can't change that to WINSCW. In the Beta version, 1.2.92 everything seemed to be fine. Am I missing something obvious? Thanks for your help, Sal attachment: qtc-rc-bldsettings.PNG___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] 'Build settings - General - with tool chain GCC' cannot be changed in Qt Creator 1.2.94
On Friday 20 November 2009 13:52:00 ext Salvatore Rinaldo wrote: Hi All, I'm trying Qt Creator 1.3 RC and when I want to build a Symbian app for the emulator and the only option I have for building is the tool chain GCC, so I can't change that to WINSCW. In the Beta version, 1.2.92 everything seemed to be fine. Am I missing something obvious? The content for that toolchain are derived from the selected Qt. I can only see the name (which looks correct), please check whether the actual path of the qt version is correct. daniel ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] ToolTip colour in dark themes
Thanks a lot! 2009/11/19 thorbjorn.lindei...@nokia.com ext Oleg Shalnev wrote: Good day. May I ask again for one very important feature. I am talking about function parameters tooltip. Is it possible to fix this problem or to extend color tuning. Thanks for the reminder! I will try to get it fixed for the 1.3.0 release. I have created the following bug report for it: http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-322 Regards, Bj�rn -- Thorbj�rn Lindeijer Software Engineer Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator -- Oleg Shalnev (Kalpa Project) -- mailto: o...@kalpa.ru skype: oleg_shalnev jabber: oleg.shal...@gmail.com icq:366619571 http://kalpa.ru ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question
It may be 5 laborious steps, but how often do you actually need to do that? I find that on average I have to rename a .h/.cpp file once in its lifetime. Usually it is when I was just whipping up a class, so I gave it a quick name, but then after a few days of working on it and realizing that it was actually going to work, I'll rename it to something more accurate. So for me, adding this feature would be way low on the list. Sean From: qt-creator-boun...@trolltech.com [mailto:qt-creator-boun...@trolltech.com] On Behalf Of Danny Price Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:45 AM To: qt-creator@trolltech.com Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Robert Caldecott robert.caldec...@gmail.com wrote: Well said. Personally I can live without file system integration as anything complicated SVN-wise I can do with the awesome TortoiseSVN plugin. Alt-Tabing to an Explroer window when I need to rename files is not the end of the world. It's not just 'alt-tabbing to an explorer window', it's: 1) Removing the file from project (either manually from the .pro file or via the menu which requires dismissing the SVN prompt). 2) Closing any open documents for that file as Creator will not do with for you (and this is an easy way to get into a mess). 3) Renaming the file in explorer / your SVN client. 4) Re-importing the file (as above). 5) Re-running qmake. Five laborious steps! But I'll take a hint and drop the subject! Qt Creator is a superb product and I am forever evangelising about it to co-workers and fellow programmers. My only gripe is with the 'session' system which is well documented here. :) Agreed. I think the Trolls have done an amazing job with this product, and considering it's only a 1.x release, the features are impressive - I much prefer editing C++ code using this IDE than I do MSVC (even with the Visual Assist plugin.) So, well done to all involved and long may the good work continue. 2009/11/19 Andre Poenitz andre.poen...@mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 03:34:25PM +, Danny Price wrote: I'm fairly certain both VisualStudio 1.0 and Eclipse 1.0 had the ability to rename source files. Danny, if the developers of VS and Eclipse had enough resources to spent to integrate cross-platform, cross-VCS file manager capabilities, so, well, I admit it, I envy them. I don't have these resources, and the ones I have I rather spent not on duplicating functionality that is already available in abundance on everybody's desktop - at least not as long as there is a long wish list of more important things. Everybody who wants to have a file manager can have that rather easily, VCS integration inclusive. Switching applications every now and then might be inconvenient and cumbersome, but it's a process that can be handled resonably well by most programmers. On the other hand, not all of them can read the contents of a QHash by looking at the d pointer in gdb, so at least for me it's pretty clear what's going to the top and what to the bottom of the todo list... Andre' ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question
Whoops, ignore this one Danny, I didn't see that Oswald asked you pretty much the exact same question between your post and my response! I don't want to make it sound like I'm piling on! Sean From: qt-creator-boun...@trolltech.com [mailto:qt-creator-boun...@trolltech.com] On Behalf Of Murphy, Sean M. Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:44 AM To: qt-creator@trolltech.com Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question It may be 5 laborious steps, but how often do you actually need to do that? I find that on average I have to rename a .h/.cpp file once in its lifetime. Usually it is when I was just whipping up a class, so I gave it a quick name, but then after a few days of working on it and realizing that it was actually going to work, I'll rename it to something more accurate. So for me, adding this feature would be way low on the list. Sean From: qt-creator-boun...@trolltech.com [mailto:qt-creator-boun...@trolltech.com] On Behalf Of Danny Price Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:45 AM To: qt-creator@trolltech.com Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Robert Caldecott robert.caldec...@gmail.com wrote: Well said. Personally I can live without file system integration as anything complicated SVN-wise I can do with the awesome TortoiseSVN plugin. Alt-Tabing to an Explroer window when I need to rename files is not the end of the world. It's not just 'alt-tabbing to an explorer window', it's: 1) Removing the file from project (either manually from the .pro file or via the menu which requires dismissing the SVN prompt). 2) Closing any open documents for that file as Creator will not do with for you (and this is an easy way to get into a mess). 3) Renaming the file in explorer / your SVN client. 4) Re-importing the file (as above). 5) Re-running qmake. Five laborious steps! But I'll take a hint and drop the subject! Qt Creator is a superb product and I am forever evangelising about it to co-workers and fellow programmers. My only gripe is with the 'session' system which is well documented here. :) Agreed. I think the Trolls have done an amazing job with this product, and considering it's only a 1.x release, the features are impressive - I much prefer editing C++ code using this IDE than I do MSVC (even with the Visual Assist plugin.) So, well done to all involved and long may the good work continue. 2009/11/19 Andre Poenitz andre.poen...@mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 03:34:25PM +, Danny Price wrote: I'm fairly certain both VisualStudio 1.0 and Eclipse 1.0 had the ability to rename source files. Danny, if the developers of VS and Eclipse had enough resources to spent to integrate cross-platform, cross-VCS file manager capabilities, so, well, I admit it, I envy them. I don't have these resources, and the ones I have I rather spent not on duplicating functionality that is already available in abundance on everybody's desktop - at least not as long as there is a long wish list of more important things. Everybody who wants to have a file manager can have that rather easily, VCS integration inclusive. Switching applications every now and then might be inconvenient and cumbersome, but it's a process that can be handled resonably well by most programmers. On the other hand, not all of them can read the contents of a QHash by looking at the d pointer in gdb, so at least for me it's pretty clear what's going to the top and what to the bottom of the todo list... Andre' ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] General Usage Question
It's not just 'alt-tabbing to an explorer window', it's: 1) Removing the file from project (either manually from the .pro file or via the menu which requires dismissing the SVN prompt). 2) Closing any open documents for that file as Creator will not do with for you (and this is an easy way to get into a mess). 3) Renaming the file in explorer / your SVN client. 4) Re-importing the file (as above). 5) Re-running qmake. You can save yourself a step by renaming the file in the .pro file instead of removing it and re-adding it, and unless I'm mistaken (and it's possible I am) the .pro file is listed as a dependency for the Makefile so trying to build after modifying the .pro file SHOULD (in theory) automatically re-run qmake for you. This brings it down to three steps. /s/ Adam ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
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Re: [Qt-creator] Consider
On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Please consider adding to Creator, click and drag resize for DockWidgets, and adding of Icon buttons to the Toolbar while in design mode. Collapsable DockWidgets much like in .Net addons (similar to those in VS 2008 IDE) would be a nice feature for QT applications. thanks ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
[Qt-creator] Creator
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Re: [Qt-creator] Consider
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:04:42PM -0800, Ken Ray wrote: Please consider adding to Creator, click and drag resize for DockWidgets, and adding of Icon buttons to the Toolbar while in design mode. Collapsable DockWidgets much like in .Net addons (similar to those in VS 2008 IDE) would be a nice feature for QT applications. Please consider filing a feature request on http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/. Andre' ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@trolltech.com http://lists.trolltech.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
