date:20050802




 At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood 
and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed 
from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 
1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my 
powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just 
uninformed ? 
 
Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread SCIQuad96



Dan wrote: 
 At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? 
 
-

I just got a similar line yesterday at the beauty salon for my hair cut. I ask is the place wasaccessible for a power wheelchair? I'm paralyzed from the chest down. 

Their answer was; yes, but can you get into the barber seat.

Keith/c4-5/NJ

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread TheOmen723




i didn't know jack shit about quads before i became one and still it took a 
few years for me to learn all the interworkings of quad life. when i first 
had my accident, i rememberpeople asking me if i would ever ride another 
dirtbike and i kept telling people, "oh yea, as soon as i heal up." there 
i was sitting in bed couldn't even feed myself.it's hard for people 
to become conscious to things they don't experience (physically, 
emotionally). if i hadn't been injured i probably would 
beoutat the theaternot knowing the guy in the handicapped 
section in front of mewas pissing through a tube. 

be patient with those who don't understand
besides murderball justcame maybe more people wil understand.

luke c5/6, 5yrs post

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread Jkrocks



 

Why is that such a stupid question? Most paraplegics and some 
quadriplegics can transfer themselves. The beautician or the owner of the 
business might know this and wanted to find out to see if he/she needed to make 
any adjustments to his/her station. The first time I went to the dentist 
he thought I would be able to get into his room because his other patients with 
wheelchairs had no problem. I was not able to get in without him moving 
the dentist chair because my wheelchair has a longer wheelbase than standard 
because of my size. Now, when I arrive for my appointment the 
dentistchair is movedout ofthe way and I back right in with no 
problems.

I have a sign in the back of my van that says "Handicap driver, please be 
patient" because of all the drivers that are in a rush all the time. 
Believe it or not this sign works very well. I have not been Honked at 
since I put this sign in my window three years ago. Before I put this sign 
in the window I washonked that at least once per day. We as 
quadriplegics and paraplegics also have to be "patient" with able-bodied people 
because they have no idea what our life is like and what we go through. 
When I make a reservation at a restaurant I tell them that I'm in a power 
wheelchair and should be put somewhere where I'm out of their way because I 
cannot fit underneath a table. If they put me in an aisle way and I'm in 
their way that is their problem because I will not keep moving out of the way 
for them. Every restaurant that I have gone to has told me that they 
appreciate the heads up so they can makeadjustments if needed. I 
have never felt rushed or uncomfortable in any restaurant that I have gone 
to.

Jim

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread Stacy Harim





People ask me. I tell them that I got a rare illness 4 years ago that 
left me paralyzed and they ask will I get better. That's no so silly 
except for the people that I have gotten in detail with and I tell them that 
there hasn't been any improvement in over 3. I have even had nurses ask me 
if I can stand up. UGH NO I'm paralyzed is what I think but like 
Billy, I dont want to come off rude so I just tell them nicely as with the 
getting better question.

Stacu

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:52 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us 
  Quads.
  
   At Least Once A Month , people in my 
  neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them 
  i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on 
  Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my 
  powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just 
  uninformed ? 
   
  Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Million Dollar Baby / Roy Oshea







No greg it's nothing like that, I think you'll really enjoy it.
It's a funny movie at times but it's very dramatic and serious too.
If you can't find it to rent you can buy it on Blockbuster.com.


Mark

---Original Message---


From: Greg
Date: 08/01/05 19:02:34
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Million Dollar Baby / Roy Oshea


I just went to this site and viewed the trailer.
It looks very funny. I'd never even seen an Ad for it before.
I am for sure going to try and rent it.
I just hope it doesn't end up being one of those everything is wonderful movies That life is easy and you can walk if you just have enough heart and try hard enough.
Greg

Anyone that wants to see a great movie a sci should see Rory O'Shea was here, great movie, true to sci and great acting  directing in my opinion a much better movie with a good ending.
http://www.roryosheawasheremovie.com/

Re: [QUAD-L] FertiCare

2005-08-02 Thread DiannaL767




In a message dated 8/1/2005 1:55:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i can 
  ejaculate but it takes damn near an hour and i'm sleepy by then. 
LOL
if i were able to feel an orgasm...i'd fight the sleep! 15 yrs  what's 
an hr? :-)

Re: [QUAD-L] Million Dollar Baby / Roy Oshea




 Hi Mark..I noticed this is an Irish movie, is it in 
english or does it have subtitles underneath.
 
Thanks, Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread DiannaL767





In a message dated 8/2/2005 9:58:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 At Least Once A Month , people in my 
  neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them 
  i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on 
  Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my 
  powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just 
  uninformed ? 

dan,
that's a winner! i'd say really dumb! sounds like a joke coming from 'larry 
the cable guy'. i often wonder... if the general public only knew the whole 
ordeal of being a quad, what we go thru each day to survive, what they would 
think? most think our only problem is that were unable to walk!
diane

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread Greg




I don't mind questions about my injury. If people don't 
know anyone with a spinal injury, they probably don't know much about it. There 
are so many reasons people use chairs, so many ways people get paralyzed. You 
see people listed as quads who can walk with a walker, but don't have perfect 
control. Being paralyzed doesn't always mean "complete".
Plus, anyone who doesn't know much about it can get 
misinformation from watching TV movies where everyone who is paralyzed ends up 
walking because "They have such courage".
I say to the non disabled... "Ask Away" it's the only way 
to learn. The more they learn about us, the more they will see we are just like 
them... only different :-)
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Million Dollar Baby / Roy Oshea







English,
I think the Irish just have a thick accent don't they?
But no subtitles and easy to understand even with the accent.

Mark

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 08/02/05 13:07:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Million Dollar Baby / Roy Oshea

 Hi Mark..I noticed this is an Irish movie, is it in english or does it have subtitles underneath.
 Thanks, Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Million Dollar Baby / Roy Oshea







I rent all my movies off www.blockbuster.com and they had it there.
BTW it's a pretty good deal if you rent a lot of movies or just a few.

Mark

---Original Message---


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 08/01/05 22:28:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Million Dollar Baby / Roy Oshea

They don't have Rui O'Shea at Blockbuster I guess they will not be carring :-(Dana (C 4-5, 31 years post, 51, KC)

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread ~LittleQuad~

uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady once asked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my mom put her hand over my mouth HAHA
I would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumb and assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they find out i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? 
 Dan

http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread ~LittleQuad~

uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady once asked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my mom put her hand over my mouth HAHAI would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumb and assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they find out i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? 
 Dan

http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad

Re: [QUAD-L] Million Dollar Baby / Roy Oshea




 Yes, I think your right Because Ireland Is part of the United 
Kingdom...that consists of Enland, Ireland Scotland and Wales. So most probably 
do speak English. I can buy the movie for $ 21 at blockbusterthey don't have 
any to rent, so i'll probably get it soon.
Thanks, 
Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.




 Yes, DianeI think that is correct about most walking 
people, Also very many can't understand how we have any pain if we are 
paralyzed LOL .
 
Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.







Kids crack me up, when my nephew seen me for the first time after my accident he told me "OK get up it's my turn" I waslmao because it was soinnocent because they just don't know but when kids ask questions they usually ask more intelligent questions than adults andthey have a million of them on your chair.


Mark

---Original Message---


From: ~LittleQuad~
Date: 08/02/05 13:41:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady once asked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my mom put her hand over my mouth HAHA
I would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumb and assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they find out i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? 
 Dan


http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad

[QUAD-L] Thanks Dave

2005-08-02 Thread William Willis

Dave, thanks for sharing your story. It took some kinda grit and guts to 
make those decisions. God bless. By the way, what do you do as a workout? 
Larry

From: David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Quad quad-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK...
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT)

Hi JT,

I'm sorry that this feedback is getting to you so late.  First, let me 
welcome you to the Quad-List.  As Lori says you've already received some 
good responses so I'll just add mine to them.

Every SCI case is different, just as every person is different, but one 
thing most of us will agree on is that the first couple of years after a 
SCI are the hardest.  It may not be that life gets better but you'll learn 
to deal with life in a better way.

I was white-water rafting on the Upper Salt River in '76 when I broke my 
neck at C4-5.  I was 22 and had been married for 5 years.  We had two sons, 
5  2 1/2, and I was managing the second largest car-wash in Phoenix 
(Freeway Car Wash, Black Canyon Highway  Camelback Rd.) at the time.  Part 
of my pay package was an insurance policy on me and my family, but the 
place had been sold to a new man in Jan. of '76, and he had changed 
insurance carriers, and to save money the new policy went into effect on 
May 01 and the old policy expired April 15.  I should have been on top of 
that but I was running the place, keeping the books straight, and doing all 
of the hiring  firing, and that little gap of two weeks went unnoticed 
until I broke my neck April 25!  Well, the old company felt real bad but 
they couldn't do anything to help, and the new company's policy hadn't 
taken effect yet so they felt real bad but they couldn't help, either.  
Life sure has a sense of humor!

I did my rehab at Good Sam, and took the ACT and with the help of VR I 
started taking classes at GCC.  I was taking the PT's advice and was 
pushing myself around campus in a manual chair.  I made the Dean's List the 
first semester and was on my face most of the time letting my bottom heal 
through the next semester.  I went back the next semester and made the 
Dean's List again, and spent the next 6 months letting the flap surgery I 
had to have done on my bottom heal.  With all of that time to think about 
my priorities my wife and I decided that it would be better if she went to 
work and I stayed home with the boys.

By this time life was starting to seem ''normal'' and things were looking 
better.  I was staying out of the hospital, had taken a position on the PTA 
Board at my boys school, and my wife was working days.  Life seemed like it 
would be okay but going in a new direction.  I took over running our home, 
getting the boys through school, and keeping my wife involved, etc.

Now, I know everyone is different, so by when I noticed that my wife was 
having trouble sleeping and showing other signs of depression we sat down 
and had a good long talk.  After talking with a councilor we were able to 
see that my wife felt like she wasn't contributing to our family, and that 
because we had married young she felt that there wasn't anything that she 
could look at and get the satisfaction that she'd accomplished that on her 
own.  She felt like her dad had taken care of her until we married and I 
had taken care of her since then.  I knew she was an equal partner in 
everything we had, but knowing something and changing the way someone feels 
are very different things.

We discussed different ideas but I could tell that if things continued the 
way they were going that in a year, maybe two, what she was feeling as 
dissatisfaction would turn to anger, and eventually hate, and it would be 
directed toward me.  So, in early '85 we came up with a plan that while I 
knew would be hard on me and our boys in the short run, would be the best 
thing for us all in the long run.  We decided that we would sell our home 
and she and our boys would move back to central MI where she grew-up and 
get a place that she felt was her own.  I moved back to Lincoln Park, a 
suburb of Detroit.  I would be far enough away so she would feel that she 
was going it alone, but close enough that my boys could come to visit when 
we needed to see each other.  The plan was for her to take two years and if 
she didn't think she had made the right decision we'd get back together and 
go on from there.

By late '86 she had succeeded in creating a new home and life that she felt 
she could call her own.  The boys had adjusted to the changes and I decided 
that she would be okay on her own, so I made the decision to move back to 
AZ where the weather was better suited for me.  The boys would stay with 
Mom and spend the summers with me.  I had an Uncle that lived in Arlington, 
TX that asked me if I wanted to spend a few weeks with them before going on 
to AZ.  I agreed and was staying with them for the start of the New Year, 
1987.

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 At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood  and at church or etc. 
will 
ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed  from upper chest down 
and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd  1997.Then they ask how 
far 
can I walk on my own without my  powerchairAre most 
people 
really this dumb or just  uninformed ? 
  
Dan 

LOL.  Some of it is ignorance and most of it is nervousness when approaching 
movie
stars... and quads.  Out of excitement, they say something that appears right 
at the time, but I'm sure that later they think, boy was that a stupid thing 
to ask.

I have the same problem with female movie stars...

Take it with a grain of salt. or have some fun with it.

W

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Next time that you are out and about, try this.  Going to a place where 
dangerous things can happen... and when people ask you question, just tell 
them you 
were injured
at the dangerous event.  LOL, did that sound right?
We do this a amusement parks, near the scary rides.  Parents briskly move 
their children elsewhere.
Try it. You'll like it!
W

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 I just got a similar line yesterday at the beauty salon for my hair cut. I 
ask is the place was accessible for a power wheelchair? I'm paralyzed from 
the 
chest down. 
 
Their answer was; yes, but can you get into the barber seat. 
 

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Next time that you are out and about, try this.  Going to a place where 
dangerous things can happen... and when people ask you question, just tell them 
you 
were injured
at the dangerous event.  LOL, did that sound right?
We do this a amusement parks, near the scary rides.  Parents briskly move 
their children elsewhere.
Try it. You'll like it!
W

In a message dated 8/2/05 10:19:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just got a similar line yesterday at the beauty salon for my hair cut. I 
ask is the place was accessible for a power wheelchair? I'm paralyzed from 
the 
chest down. 
 
Their answer was; yes, but can you get into the barber seat. 

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[QUAD-L] In response to the guy whose wife cheated on him and stuff...

Hiya Kaye!
Welcome to Da Group
I've waited to post an answer to your posting as I read it and re-read it 
several times.
You did good.  You done good.  You did what was  good for you and I'm sure 
that by
now you've realized that some of the early info provided to you after your 
trauma
was wrong and misguided.  People like you make excellent contacts with 
individuals
and families that have experienced similar trauma.  Those first few hours and 
months
can really make a difference when your head is on straight, but ofcourse, 
when your wearing a traction brace, your head has no other place to go. (lol)
What college did you graduate from and what was your major?
W

In a message dated 7/29/05 9:36:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Don't hang out with people that are screwed up and thus good company (the 

whole misery loves company trap). And don't be a captive audience for too 

much of people's crap. Actually, that's what I have to still tell myself! 

Btw, I'm not saying all this because my life is cake right now. It ebbs and 

flows. You'll see that many people have it worse off than you do and many of 

them are able bodied.


Keep your head up, bro!

Hugs, Kaye

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back!


Hi Smurf,

Great to have you back. A tea-bag on the stitches will help them feel better. :)

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey guys,

I'm back! Thanks for all your good luck emails, I really needed your support so.

The surgery itself went well, the wisdom tooth was sucessfully removed which was the main thing.Once they took the tooth out they found that it was bad tooth so it was no wonder it went so easily - it was deformed, at an angle and half growing on a bit at the back of my mouth. The tooth next to it they was able to basically sand down as it wasn't that bad, and my gum was given quite a few stitches (which I managed to knock out hours afterwards.doh!)

Only prob was, where the tooth had grown bad anyway, the root of the tooth was pratically sitting on one of the nerves at the bottom of my jaw, which unavoidably got damaged whilst taking the tooth out so I've now got numbness on my cheek, tip of tongue and corner of lip which they said is going to be temporary, but not to sure weather that's true or not.

Take care all!

Love Smurf xxx

[QUAD-L] (no subject)

2005-08-02 Thread DAANOO




Hi Dave,I really enjoyed reading your story and your many 
accomplishments. Congratulations.Dana (C 4-5, 31 years post, 51, 
KC)

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread DeLiMiTeD4





Dan, you don't want to know how stupid people really are. It is just too 
scarey.

john

In a message dated 8/2/2005 9:58:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and 
  at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed 
  from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 
  1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my 
  powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just 
  uninformed ? 
   
  Dan

[QUAD-L] longest time in wheelchairs/sores

2005-08-02 Thread DiannaL767




to the ole-timers on the list... i was wondering how long before your first 
sore (if any) and are we destined for butt sores in just a matter of time. may 
sound like a stupid question but i'm curious as to can they actually be 
avoided.
diane

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

2005-08-02 Thread DeLiMiTeD4





I find it boring to keep repeating a story about a car wreck I don't 
remember. I enjoy making up more exciting stories. The adults seem to love the 
one where I fell from a 7th floor window while hiding froma woman's 
husband. 
I have told people that I'm highly contagious and unfortunately, It's 
too late, they were exposed when I said "hello'. People are obviously more 
like herd animals than predators. They really aren't particularly smart.

john


In a message dated 8/2/2005 11:49:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  People ask me. I tell them that I got a rare illness 4 years ago 
  that left me paralyzed and they ask will I get better. That's no so 
  silly except for the people that I have gotten in detail with and I tell them 
  that there hasn't been any improvement in over 3. I have even had nurses 
  ask me if I can stand up. UGH NO I'm paralyzed is what I think but 
  like Billy, I don’t want to come off rude so I just tell them nicely as with 
  the getting better question.
  
  Stacu
  
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:52 
AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask 
us Quads.

 At Least Once A Month , people in my 
neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell 
them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car 
wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my 
powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just 
uninformed ? 
 
Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

LOL John.  You ARE my kind of Quad.  If you got a boring stories, give the 
crowd
what they want to hear.  Make'em crawl and cry, then bring out the cup, lol.
Still looking for the most inventing story, lol.
W

In a message dated 8/2/05 6:05:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I find it boring to keep repeating a story about a car wreck I don't  

remember. I enjoy making up more exciting stories. The adults seem to love 
the  one 

where I fell from a 7th floor window while hiding from a woman's  husband. 

I have told people that I'm highly contagious and unfortunately, It's  too  

late, they were exposed when I said hello'. People are obviously more  like 

herd animals than predators. They really aren't particularly smart.

 

john

Re: [QUAD-L] longest time in wheelchairs/sores

2005-08-02 Thread MikeyBird3






In a message dated 8/2/2005 7:00:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i was wondering how long before your first sore (if any) and are we 
  destined for butt sores in just a matter of time. may sound like a stupid 
  question but i'm curious as to can they actually be 
avoided.

My first came on my tailbone about 8 months after my injury. It was 
due to an accidental bump against my wheelchair. I have a skinny ass and 
very littlr "meat" over my tailbone. I think they can be avoided with care 
and diligence. 

BillLeesburg, 
FLC-6 Incomplete since 7/20/68AOL/AIM  Yahoo ID: 
MikeyBird3Stupidity is NOT a handicap! Park 
elsewhere!

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

Hi Stunt,

I don't like to be used by others for them to make money, either. The site I gave lists lawsuits filed, so if Mr. Moore settled before the suit was actually filed, it wouldn't be listed.

As far a any lawsuit being filed against Mr. Eastwood just because he has money, the outcome of any lawsuit is determined on its merits. That's the way our legal system works. It may not be perfect, but it is better than most people on the earth live under.

I do understand that while Google doesn't retrieve everything, but do a quick check and you'll find the sites run as much against Mr. Moore's movie as forit. I think a fair reading would give both sides of the issues you say the media ignores. I'm not a tabloid reader so I'll take your word on their coverage, but both sides of the issue are in print.

If I am not allowed to visit a resort for the simple reason that I don't live in the community it is in, that is wrong. Either AB or a person with a wheelchair should have that right. If I am not able to get into a court room or Federal building, then they are doing the same wrong. But two wrongs don't make it right. Change must be made across the board. In the 'Left' and in the 'Right.' To stand against change for what is right,is wrong for both sides, AND the middle!

IMHO --If we as a Country are not moving forward, we are moving in the wrong direction, and all the effort that you and your fellow Veterans give to this Country would be lost. I pray thatnever happens.

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moore settled that one out of court very quickly. It is difficult to find any mention of it (due to extreme limited coverage) and having changed my HD, I no longer have the org link. But it was to a Colorado newspaper (local story) with a headline something like; "Local victim from Columbine sueing Film Maker of Bowling for Columbine" (to the best of my recollection).Google doesn't retrieve everything, and while I can recall the gist of the name of the article it has been a while (when the movie first released).The person who wrote what you're calling an article, wrote an opinion piece. To give it any more legitimacy would be a mistake. If anyone has a vandetta, the writer should look into a mirror. As far as my leftist media reference, I was talking about all the tabloids that fawn over the meathead moores of the world,!
and not
holding them to the same standards as those they crucify whom they don't agree with. The Acadamey has shamed itself for calling Bowling for Columbine a Documentory and the honoring it as the worlds best for that year. And where was the leftist press??? Honoring him instead of exposing him as a fraud.As for Eastwoods desire to maintain the style of his resturaunt... do you think it is highly likely that he was targeted just because he is a celeberity and somebody smelled money?Personaly I find that offensive.To try to tie it to his motive for making the movie is also offensive.You see, I don't like being used.IMHO there are too many lawyers making themselves rich using us.And we have more important issues than forcing someone who doesn't even have a quad living in his small community to meet ADA standards when many of our courts and Federal buildings have that same fault.Sometimes a molehill isn't important.!
And
no, this wasn't about endorseing Eastwood, my opinion was towards the motivation and conclusion of the writer.IMHO BS is BS and it doesn't do any org good to spread it.Instead of accusations w/o merit, a simple critique would have sufficed.We need allies not enemies.Personally I liked the movie and if I'd suffered that high an injury, a friend who came to visit me 2 mo into rehab would have been asked to keep his promise made when I first became a stuntman.Stunt Hi Stunt, When you say this is an "opinion," if you're referring to the term "Vendetta" used in the title of the article, then I agree, that is an opinion. Mr. Eastwood's legal issues with the State of CA is a matter of public record. -- http://thor.prohosting.com/stunttnt/http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/

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Hi Larry,

I have8 main different sets that I go through 30 times each. I do them while still in bed. Arms straight over my head up then brought downand back up, armsout to the side brought in meeting (I try to think I'm wrapping my arms around a beach ball), arms at my side bringing each one up to my chin, arms down brought up straight overhead (the reverse of set one so the breathe is let out on the opposite move, arms bent with hands at my chin then arms pushed out to the side and back in, arms straight out to the sidemaking circles, arms straight up overhead doing circles, arms in a bent position with a running movemen pump. Each move is made in time with a breath and with wrists cockedwhile I hold and relax. The longer I've worked on these moves I've found I'm able to work the muscles connected to the ones I can control (stomach, back, etc) and the faster I move the faster I breathe to keep my heart rate up. I wish t!
his was
clearer but if you're really interested I'm sure we can figure out a way to show you how each set is done.

I hope this helps some.

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA William Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave, thanks for sharing your story. It took some kinda grit and guts to make those decisions. God bless. By the way, what do you do as a workout? LarryFrom: "David K. Kelmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Lori Michaelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK...Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT)Hi JT,I'm sorry that this feedback is getting to you so late. First, let me welcome you to the Quad-List. As Lori says you've already received some good responses so I'll just add mine to them.Every SCI case is different, just as every person is different, but one thing most of us will agree on is that the first couple of years after a SCI are the hardest. It may no!
t be that
life gets better but you'll learn to deal with life in a better way.I was white-water rafting on the Upper Salt River in '76 when I broke my neck at C4-5. I was 22 and had been married for 5 years. We had two sons, 5 2 1/2, and I was managing the second largest car-wash in Phoenix (Freeway Car Wash, Black Canyon Highway Camelback Rd.) at the time. Part of my pay package was an insurance policy on me and my family, but the place had been sold to a new man in Jan. of '76, and he had changed insurance carriers, and to save money the new policy went into effect on May 01 and the old policy expired April 15. I should have been on top of that but I was running the place, keeping the books straight, and doing all of the hiring firing, and that little gap of two weeks went unnoticed until I broke my neck April 25! Well, the old company felt real bad but !
they
couldn't do anything to help, and the new company's policy hadn't taken effect yet so they felt real bad but they couldn't help, either. Life sure has a sense of humor!I did my rehab at Good Sam, and took the ACT and with the help of VR I started taking classes at GCC. I was taking the PT's advice and was pushing myself around campus in a manual chair. I made the Dean's List the first semester and was on my face most of the time letting my bottom heal through the next semester. I went back the next semester and made the Dean's List again, and spent the next 6 months letting the flap surgery I had to have done on my bottom heal. With all of that time to think about my priorities my wife and I decided that it would be better if she went to work and I stayed home with the boys.By this time life was starting to seem ''normal'' and things were looking better. I!
was
staying out of the hospital, had taken a position on the PTA Board at my boys school, and my wife was working days. Life seemed like it would be okay but going in a new direction. I took over running our home, getting the boys through school, and keeping my wife involved, etc.Now, I know everyone is different, so by when I noticed that my wife was having trouble sleeping and showing other signs of depression we sat down and had a good long talk. After talking with a councilor we were able to see that my wife felt like she wasn't contributing to our family, and that because we had married young she felt that there wasn't anything that she could look at and get the satisfaction that she'd accomplished that on her own. She felt like her dad had taken care of her until we married and I had taken care of her since then. I knew she was an equal partner in everything we had, but!
knowing
something and changing the way someone feels are very different things.We discussed different ideas but I could tell that if things continued the way they were going that in a year, maybe two, what she was feeling as dissatisfaction would turn to anger, and eventually hate, and it would be directed toward me. So, in early '85 we came up with a plan that while I knew would be hard on me and our boys in the

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