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I humbly disagree. The print Is the only little thing about it. BW, john From: Steve Crowder To: Eric W Rudd ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:52:29 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Eric -- what are you doing? Forums like this have standards and the things you are posting in here are well below them. Why don't you show Jim Lubin and the rest of the people here at the quad list a little bit of respect and limit your posts to legitimate topics and keep that nonsense and foul language to yourself? You been a member here a long time. Why go out and tarnish your image so extensively as you are doing every time you push the send button and send out your poetry and other nonsense to a forum where that sort of behavior is more commonplace and acceptable? Honestly, the things you're saying you this long string of posts sound like drunken babble. Do you really want to portray yourself as someone capable of sending THAT TRASH out for other people to read? Think about this. Yours truly, Nick Danger - Original Message - >From: Eric W Rudd >To: quad-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:03 PM >Subject: [QUAD-L] > > >It's been a while >Since I could hold my head up high >and it's been a while >Since I first saw you >It's been a while >since i could stand on my own two feet again >and it's been a while >since i could call you >But everything I can't remember as fucked up as it may seem >the consequences that I've rendered >I've stretched myself beyond my means > >It's been a while >since i could say that i wasn't addicted and >It's been a while >Since I could say I love myself as well and >It's been a while >Since I've gone and fucked things up just like i always do >It's been a while >But all that shit seems to disappear when i'm with you >But everything I can't remember as fucked up as it may seem >the consequences that I've rendered >I've gone and fucked things up again > >Why must i feel this way? >just make this go away >just one more peaceful day > >Its been awhile >Since I could lok at myself straight >and it's been awhile >since i said i'm sorry >It's been awhile >Since I've seen the way the candles light your face >It's been awhile >But I can still remember just the way you taste >But everything I can't remember as fucked up as it may seem >I know it's me i cannot blame this on my father >he did the best he could for me > >It's been a while >Since I could hold my head up high >and it's been a while since i said i'm sorry > >Eric W Rudd >c5sc...@gmail.com > > > ..
Re: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR
I don't have a bladder problem. i've been a quad for 33 years and my bones are similar to chalk but the nerves feel obligated to send pain signals to my spine where it biuilds up untill it is feeding the excess impulses into the autonomic nervous system where it interupts with the autonomic system causing my organs and glandular system to freak out. Any thing you can imagine having done without thinking of doing it, you can still do because the autonomic system controls it. those moments when you feel fright or fear and theres no reason. AD just sent a signal that released a hormone from a gland that no longer gets impulses from your brain. The upper part of your spine seems to get the electro chemical signal to you sympathetic, or Autonomic nervous system in some manor that has only been recently understood. This excess signal from pain that was on its way to the brain to say ouch is now flooding your Autonomic system as and causing spasms, mood swings, profuse sweating, rapid heartbeat, high blood pressure, dry mouth, convulsions,m etc A painful UTI will cause the sweating as you said. I Think we can sweat from any pain caused from low back fractures. or even a broken toe. Lyrica and neurontin and cymbalta are designed to interupt communication between the central nervous system and the Autonomic nervous system. I'm not dissin your theory. I'm just saying that I broke so many bones and did so much internal damage along with breaking my neck that figuring out whats causing it has taken back seat to stoping it. i'm argueing with a doctor now about a high diabetes test. It was done while was in pain and when I stopped thge pain my sugar level returned to normal when I took the Lyrica. I've checked it with my new meter and its normal. The office test showed 470. Out of pain its 85-92. It isn't on any definition of AD. He isnt that sure of my insistance in the hormone release can cause a pancreatic malfuntion. I'm curious about anyone else testing sugar while in pain? It causes everything else to malfunction. I got a free glucose meter now. Best Wishes, john From: donald scott To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:41:27 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR Hi group, I read some of the posts regarding the sweating problem. I too have had this problem and ran a bunch of test. The doctors where pretty stumped. I think that I have finally figured out that it's a UTI problem. When we sit up it puts more pressure on the bladder which irritates the bladder when it's already upset from the UTI. It causes pain and then we sweat. I take a daily antibiotic for urine and have no more sweating. I may be wrong but it has helped me. Good luck and great health, Donald C5
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WOW! i came home from rehab on 32 different drugs. i have got down to 2 (spasm)...do u not have spasms? IF i 4get my pills, my legs remind me. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: hellodav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR Both my mom and dad died from medical over-treatment. Mom took so many arthritis meds, they weakened her stomach so when they 'scoped' her they poked a hole. At 83 she never recovered heart failed. Dad went nuts after taking a anti-depressant at 10 times the 'normal' dose. He died of heart failure. Cudos John for knowing better than the ER folks. A very BOLD call.!!! AZDAVE (p.s. I'm off all Rx drugs.)
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John you are so right. The same thing happened to me, twice. The first time I had a uti and the er doc had me take Keflex which I'm allergic to. After I told him that he said ok we'll give you something stronger by iv - that something was Keflex! I asked what was going on. He said most people are only allergic to a drug orally. "You'll be fine". I could feel my body swelling and no urine in my bag. I told him this and he says - that's because you have a uti!?! After the iv was empty, I said ok I'm leaving. The second time the er doc said I had a uti that had gone septic. They admitted me and started iv antibiotics. Doc said I would be in the hospital 4 or 5 days. I felt fine so I said I'll give you 2 days. After the second day he said I was doing much better but I should stay a couple of more days. I said no thank you so against RTAMA, I went home. My rule of thumb is, if I start to feel worse the longer I stay in a hospital, that means I'll do better at home. The last time I was in the hospital I didn't follow my rule of thumb. I went in for an adjustment of my vent. I was released 5 days later weak as a kitten. I hardly ate the whole time and lost half my body weight. On the day I was to be released the intern came in and said I would have to stay longer because they found something strange in my blood - like I had ingested antifreeze. What the Hell was she talking about?! Then when rounds came along she told the resident that they found Ketones in my blood - Ketones for Gods sake. Was she an idiot? I hadn't eaten for 5 days and she couldn't figure that one out?!? I looked at the resident and he explained to her why I had Ketones in my blood/urine. I left that day. But I learned a valuable lesson - never trust the docs - always question why and then make up your own mind. Dan At 06:49 PM 9/1/2009, John S. said something that elicited my response: In the 80's I had an indwelling catheter and took antibiotics daily to prevent infections. I was taking macrodantin. After about 7 months I was having trouble breathing and i was not producing any urine. Ambulance took me to the hospital were they increased the macrodantin by IV and began treating me for heart failure. I asked to see the PDR and a nurse complied. the side effects were identical to what was happening to me. I had them remove the IV medicine packs and refused any more antibiotics. Within 6 hours I was urinating big time. 2 liters in 4 hours. Within a day my heart had returned to normal and my breathing was incredibly easier. You can become septic from antibiotics that are taken over long periods of time. It is important to understand how each works and drugs that can turn to poison when your system no longer removes them. I ditched that urologist and went to a different one who got me into bladder training. It may never happen to others, but I wanted to relate the importance of being able to recognize antibiotic poisoning and toxic reactions. I'm allergic to any drug in the macrodantin and keflex families. My point is obvious I guess. just always get the pharmacy PDR info on any drug and e careful. I was within hours of dying when I started to refuse treatment against medical advice (RTAMA) from a doctor that was furious with me and insisting that I needed an even larger dose of what was killing me. The next day a resident came in my room and told me my stubbornness kept me from the morgue. I honestly feel that many of us using CMS medical treatment are not getting the treatment given to those with beefy insurance policies. I hope this changes but I will always read the fine print as should we all. If I had died it would have been listed as heart attack due to Renal failure. I always wonder how many of us die from the treatment we get from people we trusted to "do no harm". Ultimately, it is up to each of us to read and ask questions about our health care and use our judgment. Doctors aren't gods and mistakes happen all to often. I hope what you take works for you as long as you need it. I don't mean to scare or frieghten you or any one else. I just want to relate an experience I had because I did everything my doctor said without question. KNOW YOUR ENEMA! BEST TO ALL, john From: Merrill To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 5:33:23 PM Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR Greg, What is the antibiotic? Merrill -- From: Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:20 PM To: 'donald scott'; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR I too take a daily antibiotic. I know most people say not to do it, but I was getting UTIâs every other week. Plus the symptoms really were hard on me. I would sweat and get fevers before the UTI was bas enough to show up on tests. The Uro wanted to do a bladder augmentation, but thought we should try this first as a l
Re: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR
Both my mom and dad died from medical over-treatment. Mom took so many arthritis meds, they weakened her stomach so when they 'scoped' her they poked a hole. At 83 she never recovered heart failed. Dad went nuts after taking a anti-depressant at 10 times the 'normal' dose. He died of heart failure. Cudos John for knowing better than the ER folks. A very BOLD call.!!! AZDAVE (p.s. I'm off all Rx drugs.) In a message dated 9/1/2009 3:49:41 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, alcibiat...@yahoo.com writes: In the 80's I had an indwelling catheter and took antibiotics daily to prevent infections. I was taking macrodantin. After about 7 months I was having trouble breathing and i was not producing any urine. Ambulance took me to the hospital were they increased the macrodantin by IV and began treating me for heart failure. I asked to see the PDR and a nurse complied. the side effects were identical to what was happening to me. I had them remove the IV medicine packs and refused any more antibiotics. Within 6 hours I was urinating big time. 2 liters in 4 hours. Within a day my heart had returned to normal and my breathing was incredibly easier. You can become septic from antibiotics that are taken over long periods of time. It is important to understand how each works and drugs that can turn to poison when your system no longer removes them. I ditched that urologist and went to a different one who got me into bladder training. It may never happen to others, but I wanted to relate the importance of being able to recognize antibiotic poisoning and toxic reactions. I'm allergic to any drug in the macrodantin and keflex families. My point is obvious I guess. just always get the pharmacy PDR info on any drug and e careful. I was within hours of dying when I started to refuse treatment against medical advice (RTAMA) from a doctor that was furious with me and insisting that I needed an even larger dose of what was killing me. The next day a resident came in my room and told me my stubbornness kept me from the morgue. I honestly feel that many of us using CMS medical treatment are not getting the treatment given to those with beefy insurance policies. I hope this changes but I will always read the fine print as should we all. If I had died it would have been listed as heart attack due to Renal failure. I always wonder how many of us die from the treatment we get from people we trusted to "do no harm". Ultimately, it is up to each of us to read and ask questions about our health care and use our judgment. Doctors aren't gods and mistakes happen all to often. I hope what you take works for you as long as you need it. I don't mean to scare or frieghten you or any one else. I just want to relate an experience I had because I did everything my doctor said without question. KNOW YOUR ENEMA! BEST TO ALL, john From: Merrill To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 5:33:23 PM Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR Greg, What is the antibiotic? Merrill From: Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:20 PM To: 'donald scott'; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR I too take a daily antibiotic. I know most people say not to do it, but I was getting UTI’s every other week. Plus the symptoms really were hard on me. I would sweat and get fevers before the UTI was bas enough to show up on tests. The Uro wanted to do a bladder augmentation, but thought we should try this first as a last resort. Since starting the daily half dose, I have had 2 UTI’s in 4 years. Greg Hi group, I read some of the posts regarding the sweating problem. I too have had this problem and ran a bunch of test. The doctors where pretty stumped. I think that I have finally figured out that it's a UTI problem. When we sit up it puts more pressure on the bladder which irritates the bladder when it's already upset from the UTI. It causes pain and then we sweat. I take a daily antibiotic for urine and have no more sweating. I may be wrong but it has helped me. Good luck and great health, Donald C5
Re: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR
In the 80's I had an indwelling catheter and took antibiotics daily to prevent infections. I was taking macrodantin. After about 7 months I was having trouble breathing and i was not producing any urine. Ambulance took me to the hospital were they increased the macrodantin by IV and began treating me for heart failure. I asked to see the PDR and a nurse complied. the side effects were identical to what was happening to me. I had them remove the IV medicine packs and refused any more antibiotics. Within 6 hours I was urinating big time. 2 liters in 4 hours. Within a day my heart had returned to normal and my breathing was incredibly easier. You can become septic from antibiotics that are taken over long periods of time. It is important to understand how each works and drugs that can turn to poison when your system no longer removes them. I ditched that urologist and went to a different one who got me into bladder training. It may never happen to others, but I wanted to relate the importance of being able to recognize antibiotic poisoning and toxic reactions. I'm allergic to any drug in the macrodantin and keflex families. My point is obvious I guess. just always get the pharmacy PDR info on any drug and e careful. I was within hours of dying when I started to refuse treatment against medical advice (RTAMA) from a doctor that was furious with me and insisting that I needed an even larger dose of what was killing me. The next day a resident came in my room and told me my stubbornness kept me from the morgue. I honestly feel that many of us using CMS medical treatment are not getting the treatment given to those with beefy insurance policies. I hope this changes but I will always read the fine print as should we all. If I had died it would have been listed as heart attack due to Renal failure. I always wonder how many of us die from the treatment we get from people we trusted to "do no harm". Ultimately, it is up to each of us to read and ask questions about our health care and use our judgment. Doctors aren't gods and mistakes happen all to often. I hope what you take works for you as long as you need it. I don't mean to scare or frieghten you or any one else. I just want to relate an experience I had because I did everything my doctor said without question. KNOW YOUR ENEMA! BEST TO ALL, john From: Merrill To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 5:33:23 PM Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR Greg, What is the antibiotic? Merrill From:Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:20 PM To: 'donald scott'; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR I too take a daily antibiotic. I know most people say not to do it, but I was getting UTI’s every other week. Plus the symptoms really were hard on me. I would sweat and get fevers before the UTI was bas enough to show up on tests. The Uro wanted to do a bladder augmentation, but thought we should try this first as a last resort. Since starting the daily half dose, I have had 2 UTI’s in 4 years. Greg Hi group, I read some of the posts regarding the sweating problem. I too have had this problem and ran a bunch of test. The doctors where pretty stumped. I think that I have finally figured out that it's a UTI problem. When we sit up it puts more pressure on the bladder which irritates the bladder when it's already upset from the UTI. It causes pain and then we sweat. I take a daily antibiotic for urine and have no more sweating. I may be wrong but it has helped me. Good luck and great health, Donald C5
FW: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR
Greg, What is the antibiotic? Merrill _ From: Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:20 PM To: 'donald scott'; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR I too take a daily antibiotic. I know most people say not to do it, but I was getting UTI's every other week. Plus the symptoms really were hard on me. I would sweat and get fevers before the UTI was bas enough to show up on tests. The Uro wanted to do a bladder augmentation, but thought we should try this first as a last resort. Since starting the daily half dose, I have had 2 UTI's in 4 years. Greg _ Hi group, I read some of the posts regarding the sweating problem. I too have had this problem and ran a bunch of test. The doctors where pretty stumped. I think that I have finally figured out that it's a UTI problem. When we sit up it puts more pressure on the bladder which irritates the bladder when it's already upset from the UTI. It causes pain and then we sweat. I take a daily antibiotic for urine and have no more sweating. I may be wrong but it has helped me. Good luck and great health, Donald C5
[QUAD-L] Another way to raise funding for SCS
We finally have the site set up for the SCS Visa card. This card will pay 1% of all purchases directly to SCS and will give a $25 bonus donation when you make your first purchase with it. Even if you don't want to have the card you could get it, make one purchase to get the $25 and then toss the card. Or you could replace a card you're using with this one. To sign up go to https://www.cardlabconnect.com/AffinityPortal/visitorAction.do?affinityName=CURE-NOT-CARE and follow the instructions. We have 3 specially designed cards available to choose from or you can design your own. Also, don't forget about using GoodSearch.com and GoodShop.com for all your internet work. And tell all your friends and family to use it too. We've seen a nice uptick on that in Aug. but our chapter alone should have a large enough audience to do even better than that. It's all free money for SCS and we need every dollar we can get.
[QUAD-L] Another way to raise funding for SCS
We finally have the site set up for the SCS Visa card. This card will pay 1% of all purchases directly to SCS and will give a $25 bonus donation when you make your first purchase with it. Even if you don't want to have the card you could get it, make one purchase to get the $25 and then toss the card. Or you could replace a card you're using with this one. To sign up go to https://www.cardlabconnect.com/AffinityPortal/visitorAction.do?affinityName=CURE-NOT-CARE and follow the instructions. We have 3 specially designed cards available to choose from or you can design your own. Also, don't forget about using GoodSearch.com and GoodShop.com for all your internet work. And tell all your friends and family to use it too. We've seen a nice uptick on that in Aug. but our chapter alone should have a large enough audience to do even better than that. It's all free money for SCS and we need every dollar we can get.
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yep, i didn't know if they'd make it to the list w/ all the heavy traffic. maybe Crowder's list would be more fitting for her??? Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: lissw...@hotmail.com ; c5sc...@gmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sometimes, he feels like a nut.. and sometimes he don't. Songs are a form of visual communication. Rare here but it happens on occasion. Wait until the topic evolves into drug, sex and rock n roll. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/1/2009 2:15:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, lissw...@hotmail.com writes: is this a song lyric forum now? I have 4 pages of quad-l emails and half of them are song lyrics Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com From: c5sc...@gmail.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:36:35 -0500 Subject: [QUAD-L] A last fire will rise behind those eyes Black house will rock, blind boys don't lie Immortal fear, that voice so clear Through broken walls, that scream I hear Cry, little sister - Thou shall not fall Come to your brother - Thou shall not die Unchain me, sister - Thou shall not fear Love is with your brother - Thou shall not kill Blue masquerade, strangers look on When will they learn this loneliness? Temptation heat beats like a drum Deep in your veins, I will not lie Little sister - Thou shall not fall Come to your brother - Thou shall not die Unchain me, sister - Thou shall not fear Love is with your brother - Thou shall not kill My Shangri-Las I can't forget Why you were mine I need you now Cry, little sister - Thou shall not fall Come to your brother - Thou shall not die Unchain me, sister - Thou shall not fear Love is with your brother - Thou shall not kill Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. Find out more. = --
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is this a song lyric forum now? I have 4 pages of quad-l emails and half of them are song lyrics Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com From: c5sc...@gmail.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:36:35 -0500 Subject: [QUAD-L] A last fire will rise behind those eyes Black house will rock, blind boys don't lie Immortal fear, that voice so clear Through broken walls, that scream I hear Cry, little sister - Thou shall not fall Come to your brother - Thou shall not die Unchain me, sister - Thou shall not fear Love is with your brother - Thou shall not kill Blue masquerade, strangers look on When will they learn this loneliness? Temptation heat beats like a drum Deep in your veins, I will not lie Little sister - Thou shall not fall Come to your brother - Thou shall not die Unchain me, sister - Thou shall not fear Love is with your brother - Thou shall not kill My Shangri-Las I can't forget Why you were mine I need you now Cry, little sister - Thou shall not fall Come to your brother - Thou shall not die Unchain me, sister - Thou shall not fear Love is with your brother - Thou shall not kill Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
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It's a good song but I gree, this isn't the place for it Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Suite #4 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com From: pjacob...@san.rr.com To: dangerwo...@san.rr.com; c5sc...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:32:55 -0700 I like Staind. - Original Message - From: Steve Crowder To: Eric W Rudd ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Eric -- what are you doing? Forums like this have standards and the things you are posting in here are well below them. Why don't you show Jim Lubin and the rest of the people here at the quad list a little bit of respect and limit your posts to legitimate topics and keep that nonsense and foul language to yourself? You been a member here a long time. Why go out and tarnish your image so extensively as you are doing every time you push the send button and send out your poetry and other nonsense to a forum where that sort of behavior is more commonplace and acceptable? Honestly, the things you're saying you this long string of posts sound like drunken babble. Do you really want to portray yourself as someone capable of sending THAT TRASH out for other people to read? Think about this. Yours truly, Nick Danger - Original Message - From: Eric W Rudd To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] It's been a while Since I could hold my head up high and it's been a while Since I first saw you It's been a while since i could stand on my own two feet again and it's been a while since i could call you But everything I can't remember as fucked up as it may seem the consequences that I've rendered I've stretched myself beyond my means It's been a while since i could say that i wasn't addicted and It's been a while Since I could say I love myself as well and It's been a while Since I've gone and fucked things up just like i always do It's been a while But all that shit seems to disappear when i'm with you But everything I can't remember as fucked up as it may seem the consequences that I've rendered I've gone and fucked things up again Why must i feel this way? just make this go away just one more peaceful day Its been awhile Since I could lok at myself straight and it's been awhile since i said i'm sorry It's been awhile Since I've seen the way the candles light your face It's been awhile But I can still remember just the way you taste But everything I can't remember as fucked up as it may seem I know it's me i cannot blame this on my father he did the best he could for me It's been a while Since I could hold my head up high and it's been a while since i said i'm sorry Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com .. _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
