Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-08-06 Thread Fragile
I seem to remember someone mentioning miracle myst (mist?) a few years ago,
never needed to try it myself.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:55 PM, linda...@comcast.net wrote:

 I believe in the honey.

 Lindaf



Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-08-06 Thread Quadius
I bought the honey based on your recommendation a few months ago, but if you
remember how you said they use it.
Quadius

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:55 PM, linda...@comcast.net wrote:

 I believe in the honey.

 Lindaf



Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-08-05 Thread lindakrn


I believe in the honey. 

Lindaf 

Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-08-04 Thread Quadius
I used bag balm for a stage III ulcer I had under my testicles and it healed
within nine days, but that was nine days of bedtime.

I have also had some problems with a stage III just above my coccyx. The
first time I had this it took about nine days to heal with complete bedtime.
I used bag balm both times on the open as well as around the area. We
noticed significant improvement as soon as I started using the product.

I have another one which started the other day, but I spent five days down
and used bag balm once again and it is nothing more than a small red spot
now. My problems being caused by the recline feature on my chair, so I had
them shut it off. So hopefully I won't have any more problems.

I have the honey also, but I don't know which is better. I'll be happy to
read what others say.
Quadius

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:41 AM, donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 eric, is it ok to use the bag balm on a open soar?

  *From:* Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com

 *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 6:36 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

  I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff.

 Eric W Rudd
 c5sc...@gmail.com

 - Original Message -
 *From:* donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
 *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM
 *Subject:* [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

  hi group,

 ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first
 pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about
 the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay
 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month
 ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze
 pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for
 awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has
 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day.
 it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming.
 i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i
 need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or
 bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i
 know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is
 the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?

 thanks for your input and help,
 donald c5/c6 complete







Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-08-04 Thread Quadius
Bob,
I have had some problems over the last year, but so far I am managing them
pretty well. I think I have the cause of my difficulties identified and
hopefully remedied.

I am wondering if I might be classifying my skin problems different than
everyone else. Could you go over the stages of the ulcer. I want to make
sure I'm on the same sheet of music.
Thanks,
Quadius

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@pacbell.net wrote:

 I wrote an article about healing pressure sores in January New Mobility.  I
 was fortunate to speak with the best wound care specialists in the
 business--all of them said that
 proper hydration with H20 is an important key, AND proper nutrition and
 taking in enough calories is also crucial.  I've had a few battles with tiny
 sores that have gotten
 to the stage II  even stage III area.  First thing I do when I get
 anything at stage II or beyond is go straight to my local outpatient wound
 care specialist--they usually fit
 me in to their schedule quick--and they know exactly what to do at each
 stage of the wound, when to take away dead skin, when to leave it alone, how
 to add products
 to change the PH in the wound when healing is stalled.

 I have other friends that do their best by avoiding the hassle of going
 to a specialist and work with various dressings, preparations, etc. but are
 relying on friends of friends
 advice--some of them have been battling the small manageable pressure
 sores for years.  Just sayin'

 Here is a link to the New Mobility article--I'm hoping it helps.  Wising
 fast healing.
 http://www.newmobility.com/articleView.cfm?id=11781srch=pressure%20sores

 Bob Vogel

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:09 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote:

  but not recommended for open wounds, sores or ulcers.
 Best Wishes

  In a message dated 7/22/2011 8:37:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
 c5sc...@gmail.com writes:

 I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff.

 Eric W Rudd
 c5sc...@gmail.com

 - Original Message -
 *From:* donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
 *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM
 *Subject:* [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

  hi group,

 ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first
 pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about
 the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay
 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month
 ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze
 pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for
 awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has
 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day.
 it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming.
 i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i
 need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or
 bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i
 know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is
 the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?

 thanks for your input and help,
 donald c5/c6 complete






[QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread donald scott
hi group,
 
ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he 
recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as 
trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be 
up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work 
before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly 
better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion 
yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i 
give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing 
result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay 
down in bed but she needs to work. also is
 the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?
 
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete

Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread Eric W Rudd
I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff.

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: donald scott 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine


  hi group,

  ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he 
recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as 
trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be 
up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work 
before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly 
better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion 
yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i 
give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing 
result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay 
down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one 
in the green can or something else?

  thanks for your input and help,
  donald c5/c6 complete


Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread donald scott
eric, is it ok to use the bag balm on a open soar?


From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine


I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff.

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
- Original Message - 
From: donald scott 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine


hi group,

ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he 
recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well 
as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to 
be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work 
before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly 
better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion 
yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i 
give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing 
result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay 
down in bed but she needs to work. also is
 the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?

thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete


Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread Eric W Rudd
don't think you're suppose to use it on open sores.  i use it in crotch/butt 
area  for chaffing, red areas, etc.

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: donald scott 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine


  eric, is it ok to use the bag balm on a open soar?



  From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine


  I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff.

  Eric W Rudd
  c5sc...@gmail.com
- Original Message - 
From: donald scott 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine


hi group,

ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he 
recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as 
trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be 
up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work 
before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly 
better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion 
yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i 
give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing 
result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay 
down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one 
in the green can or something else?

thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete





Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread wheelchair
pressures sores, should always be your 1st priority.  Everything else  is 
2nd.  In time you will learn the difference between staying off your  butts 
vs complete bedrest and turning each 3 hours.  Meds and Chemicals  only do so 
much.  Diet is equally important, as with age and skin  texture.  Pressure 
sores usually get worse, before they begin to get better  and dead tissue is 
removed and fresh tissue is promoted. Some change dressing  twice a day and 
the wound vac should also be part of your therapy.
I hope you heal quickly.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2011 8:31:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rollingl...@yahoo.com writes:

 
hi group,
 
ok, here  we go again with the pressure soar question. i  developed my 
first pressure soar after 20 years.  it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about 
the size of a quarter. it's  located on my buttock and was caused by my  jay 
2 cushion. i've been  fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month 
ago. he recommended  sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad 
as well  as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile 
but need to  be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she  has 2 more 
weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a  day. it 
did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did 
get a new cushion yesterday which  i'm hoping helps. i guess what i  need 
opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag  
balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know  
the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the  bag 
balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?
 
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
 




Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread wheelchair
but not recommended for open wounds, sores or ulcers.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2011 8:37:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
c5sc...@gmail.com writes:

I use _http://www.bagbalm.com/_ (http://www.bagbalm.com/)  daily great  
stuff.
 
Eric W Rudd
_c5sci97@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) 

- Original Message - 
From:  _donald scott_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com)  
To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30  AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs  sulfadiazine



hi group,
 
ok,  here we go again with the pressure soar question. i  developed my 
first pressure soar after 20  years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about 
the size of a  quarter. it's located on my buttock  and was caused by my jay 
2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months  now and saw my dr. a month  
ago. he recommended sulfadiazine  or also known as silverdine and  a gauze 
pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed  for 
awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work.  she has 2 
more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10  hours a day. it 
did get slightly better but now coming back from being up  i'm assuming. i 
did get a new cushion yesterday  which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i  need 
opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag  
balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know  
the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is  the 
bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?
 
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
 





Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread Bob Vogel
I wrote an article about healing pressure sores in January New Mobility.  I was 
fortunate to speak with the best wound care specialists in the business--all of 
them said that 
proper hydration with H20 is an important key, AND proper nutrition and taking 
in enough calories is also crucial.  I've had a few battles with tiny sores 
that have gotten
to the stage II  even stage III area.  First thing I do when I get anything at 
stage II or beyond is go straight to my local outpatient wound care 
specialist--they usually fit
me in to their schedule quick--and they know exactly what to do at each stage 
of the wound, when to take away dead skin, when to leave it alone, how to add 
products
to change the PH in the wound when healing is stalled.  

I have other friends that do their best by avoiding the hassle of going to a 
specialist and work with various dressings, preparations, etc. but are relying 
on friends of friends
advice--some of them have been battling the small manageable pressure sores 
for years.  Just sayin'

Here is a link to the New Mobility article--I'm hoping it helps.  Wising fast 
healing.
http://www.newmobility.com/articleView.cfm?id=11781srch=pressure%20sores

Bob Vogel

On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:09 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote:

 but not recommended for open wounds, sores or ulcers.
 Best Wishes
  
 In a message dated 7/22/2011 8:37:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 c5sc...@gmail.com writes:
 I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff.
  
 Eric W Rudd
 c5sc...@gmail.com
 - Original Message -
 From: donald scott
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM
 Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
 
 hi group,
  
 ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
 pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
 size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock  and was caused by my jay 2 
 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. 
 he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as 
 well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but 
 need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks 
 of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get 
 slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a 
 new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on 
 is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a 
 quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious 
 answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you 
 folks use the one in the green can or something else?
  
 thanks for your input and help,
 donald c5/c6 complete
  



Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread Danny Hearn
Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat losing 
air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we bought wound 
care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried we applied the 
lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag balm and 
{boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early stage of 
pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it has a funny name 
but 
works very well---these can be found at stores like kmart--target and some 
walgreens I think.  good luck !  hope this helps, Dan H.





From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine


hi group,

ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he 
recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as 
trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be 
up 
more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before 
summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but 
now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday 
which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on 
the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any 
suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but 
she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can 
or something else?

thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete


Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread Bob Vogel
The best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal the 
earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast.  It costs about 
$9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months
of using it evening and morning on my butt.   Works well on skin anywhere.  I 
apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin.  I learned this from a 
world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and Supercrip--he
swears by the stuff.

Bob V

On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:

 Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat losing 
 air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we bought 
 wound care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried we applied 
 the lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag balm and 
 {boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early stage of 
 pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it has a funny name 
 but works very well---these can be found at stores like kmart--target and 
 some walgreens I think.  good luck !  hope this helps, Dan H.
 
 From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
 Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
 
 hi group,
  
 ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
 pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
 size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. 
 he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as 
 well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but 
 need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks 
 of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get 
 slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a 
 new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on 
 is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a 
 quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious 
 answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you 
 folks use the one in the green can or something else?
  
 thanks for your input and help,
 donald c5/c6 complete
  



Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread wheelchair
Would that be Mark Welman?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:59:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes:

The best  stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal 
the earliest  stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast.  It 
costs about  $9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months  
of using it evening and morning on my butt.   Works well on skin  anywhere. 
 I apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin.  I learned this 
from a world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and  Supercrip--he
swears by the stuff.


Bob V


On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:



 
Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my  bottom from my seat 
losing air---Some of the quads on here recommended (  lantiseptic ) so we 
bought 
wound care saline and would clean it with that  then after it dried we 
applied the lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very  quickly after that--- Bag balm 
and {boudreaux butt paste} are very good for  rash, redness oe early stage 
of pressure sores. My doctor told us about the  butt paste---it has a funny 
name but works very well---these can be found at  stores like kmart--target 
and some walgreens I think.  good luck  !  hope this helps, Dan H.


 

 From: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) 

To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47  AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs  sulfadiazine


hi group,
 
ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my  first 
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2  and barely open. it's about 
the size of a quarter. it's located on  my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now  and saw my dr. a month 
ago. he  recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad 
as well as trying  to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile 
but need to be up  more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more 
weeks  of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did 
get  slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did 
get a new cushion  yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need  
opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm 
for a  quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the 
obvious  answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag 
balm  you folks use the one in the green can or something else?
 
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
 









=


Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread Bob Vogel
You guessed it!  He used to drone on and on about The Sween Cream brother!  
Gotta have the Sween Cream to keep the skin strong.  About 6-months ago I 
started having serious problems with red, dry cracking 
skin and started having heal tiny stage II cracks.  I remembered his animated 
Gotta have the Sween Cream Brother!  Remark--and hunted some down.  Available 
online and at specialty pharmacies.

Within a few days of using Sween Cream the redness and dryness and cracking 
went away.  It rubs in well too so there is no residue--and within 10-minutes 
of rubbing it in you can apply bandages or adhesives over
it.  I know I sound like a commercial--but I have no affiliation with them.  
Wish I did...

Bob V

On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:11 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote:

 Would that be Mark Welman?
 Best Wishes
  
 In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:59:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes:
 The best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal 
 the earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast.  It costs 
 about $9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months
 of using it evening and morning on my butt.   Works well on skin anywhere.  I 
 apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin.  I learned this from a 
 world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and Supercrip--he
 swears by the stuff.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:
 
 Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat losing 
 air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we bought 
 wound care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried we 
 applied the lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag 
 balm and {boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early 
 stage of pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it has a 
 funny name but works very well---these can be found at stores like 
 kmart--target and some walgreens I think.  good luck !  hope this helps, Dan 
 H.
 
 From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
 Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
 
 hi group,
  
 ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
 pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
 size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. 
 he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as 
 well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but 
 need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks 
 of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get 
 slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a 
 new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions 
 on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a 
 quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious 
 answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you 
 folks use the one in the green can or something else?
  
 thanks for your input and help,
 donald c5/c6 complete
  
 
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2011-07-22 Thread wheelchair
I just knew it. Mark is a super human being and a talented para-glider, in  
his spare time.  His group performs at places like county fairs and  
performs trick maneuvers , while wearing smoke grenades. They land away from 
the  
grandstands and then roll out in their chairs to the screaming audiences.
I'll never forget Mark's performance at the 1996 Summer Paralympics in  
Atlanta.
Thanks and Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2011 4:27:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes:

You  guessed it!  He used to drone on and on about The Sween Cream 
brother!  Gotta have the Sween Cream to keep the skin strong.  About  6-months 
ago 
I started having serious problems with red, dry cracking   
skin and started having heal tiny stage II cracks.  I remembered his  
animated Gotta have the Sween Cream Brother!  Remark--and hunted some  down.  
Available online and at specialty pharmacies.


Within a few days of using Sween Cream the redness and dryness and  
cracking went away.  It rubs in well too so there is no residue--and  within 
10-minutes of rubbing it in you can apply bandages or adhesives  over
it.  I know I sound like a commercial--but I have no affiliation  with 
them.  Wish I did...


Bob V


On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:11 PM, _wheelchair@aol.com_ 
(mailto:wheelch...@aol.com)  wrote:



Would that be Mark Welman?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:59:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_rhvshark@pacbell.net_ (mailto:rhvsh...@pacbell.net)  writes:

The  best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal 
the  earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast.  It  
costs about $9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months  
of using it evening and morning on my butt.   Works well on skin  anywhere. 
 I apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin.  I learned this 
from a world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and  Supercrip--he
swears by the stuff.


Bob V


On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:



 
Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on  my bottom from my seat 
losing air---Some of the quads on here  recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we 
bought 
wound care saline and would  clean it with that then after it dried we 
applied the lantiseptic  cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag balm 
and {boudreaux  butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early stage 
of pressure  sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it has a funny 
name but  works very well---these can be found at stores like kmart--target 
and  some walgreens I think.  good luck !  hope this helps, Dan  H.


 

 From: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) 

To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47  AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs  sulfadiazine


hi group,
 
ok, here we go again with  the pressure soar question. i developed my  
first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a  stage 2 and barely open. it's about 
the size of a quarter. it's  located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 
2  cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months  now and saw my dr. a month 
ago. he  recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad 
as well as  trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile 
but need  to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more  
weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it  
did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did 
get a new  cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i  need 
opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm 
for a  quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the 
 obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is  the bag 
balm you folks use the one in the green can or something  else?
 
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
 









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Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread Bob Vogel
...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Would that be Mark Welman?
 Best Wishes
  
 In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:59:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes:
 The best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal 
 the earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast.  It costs 
 about $9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months
 of using it evening and morning on my butt.   Works well on skin anywhere.  
 I apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin.  I learned this from 
 a world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and Supercrip--he
 swears by the stuff.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:
 
 Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat 
 losing air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we 
 bought wound care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried 
 we applied the lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- 
 Bag balm and {boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe 
 early stage of pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it 
 has a funny name but works very well---these can be found at stores like 
 kmart--target and some walgreens I think.  good luck !  hope this helps, 
 Dan H.
 
 From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
 Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
 
 hi group,
  
 ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
 pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about 
 the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 
 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month 
 ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze 
 pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for 
 awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 
 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a 
 day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm 
 assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess 
 what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try 
 honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be 
 helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to 
 work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or 
 something else?
  
 thanks for your input and help,
 donald c5/c6 complete
  
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread Bob Vogel
 the Sween Cream Brother!  Remark--and hunted some 
 down.  Available online and at specialty pharmacies.
 
 Within a few days of using Sween Cream the redness and dryness and cracking 
 went away.  It rubs in well too so there is no residue--and within 
 10-minutes of rubbing it in you can apply bandages or adhesives over
 it.  I know I sound like a commercial--but I have no affiliation with them. 
  Wish I did...
 
 Bob V
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:11 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Would that be Mark Welman?
 Best Wishes
  
 In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:59:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes:
 The best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal 
 the earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast.  It 
 costs about $9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months
 of using it evening and morning on my butt.   Works well on skin anywhere. 
  I apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin.  I learned this 
 from a world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and Supercrip--he
 swears by the stuff.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:
 
 Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat 
 losing air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we 
 bought wound care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried 
 we applied the lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- 
 Bag balm and {boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe 
 early stage of pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt 
 paste---it has a funny name but works very well---these can be found at 
 stores like kmart--target and some walgreens I think.  good luck !  hope 
 this helps, Dan H.
 
 From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
 Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
 
 hi group,
  
 ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my 
 first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's 
 about the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by 
 my jay 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a 
 month ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a 
 gauze pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed 
 for awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. 
 she has 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 
 hours a day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up 
 i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i 
 guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and 
 try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would 
 be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs 
 to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or 
 something else?
  
 thanks for your input and help,
 donald c5/c6 complete
  
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

2011-07-22 Thread wheelchair
 that will accidentally say to me Dan, do you want your chair out  
of the back of the truck.? A) Errr, I'm Bob.  Dan's at work today.  
Yeah, fine, whatever.  Do you want your chair?.  yup...


Bob V



 
On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:42 PM, _wheelchair@aol.com_ 
(mailto:wheelch...@aol.com)  wrote:



I just knew it. Mark is a super human being and a talented para-glider,  in 
his spare time.  His group performs at places like county fairs and  
performs trick maneuvers , while wearing smoke grenades. They land away from  
the 
grandstands and then roll out in their chairs to the screaming  audiences.
I'll never forget Mark's performance at the 1996 Summer Paralympics in  
Atlanta.
Thanks and Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2011 4:27:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_rhvshark@pacbell.net_ (mailto:rhvsh...@pacbell.net)  writes:

You  guessed it!  He used to drone on and on about The Sween Cream  
brother!  Gotta have the Sween Cream to keep the skin strong.  About 6-months 
ago 
I started having serious problems with red, dry  cracking   
skin and started having heal tiny stage II cracks.  I remembered  his 
animated Gotta have the Sween Cream Brother!  Remark--and  hunted some down.  
Available online and at specialty  pharmacies.


Within a few days of using Sween Cream the redness and dryness and  
cracking went away.  It rubs in well too so there is no residue--and  within 
10-minutes of rubbing it in you can apply bandages or adhesives  over
it.  I know I sound like a commercial--but I have no affiliation  with 
them.  Wish I did...


Bob V


On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:11 PM, _wheelchair@aol.com_ 
(mailto:wheelch...@aol.com)  wrote:



Would that be Mark Welman?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:59:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_rhvshark@pacbell.net_ (mailto:rhvsh...@pacbell.net)   writes:

The best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness,  dryness, and heal 
the earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream  by Coloplast.  It 
costs about $9-$12 bucks for a tube that will  last several months  
of using it evening and morning on my butt.   Works well on  skin anywhere. 
 I apply it each morning and evening to protect my  skin.  I learned this 
from a world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber  and Supercrip--he
swears by the stuff.


Bob V


On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:



 
Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back  on my bottom from my seat 
losing air---Some of the quads on here  recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we 
bought 
wound care saline and would  clean it with that then after it dried we 
applied the lantiseptic  cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag balm 
and  {boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early  stage 
of pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it  has a funny 
name but works very well---these can be found at stores  like kmart--target 
and some walgreens I think.  good luck  !  hope this helps, Dan H.


 

 From: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) 

To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47  AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm  vs sulfadiazine


hi group,
 
ok, here we go again with  the pressure soar question. i developed  my 
first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a  stage 2 and barely open. it's about 
the size of a quarter. it's  located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 
2  cushion. i've been fighting it for 2  months now and saw my dr. a month 
ago. he  recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad 
as well as  trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile 
but  need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2  more 
weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours  a day. it 
did get slightly better but now coming back from being  up i'm assuming. i 
did get a new  cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what  i need 
opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag 
balm  for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i  know 
the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to  work. also is the 
bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or  something else?
 
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
 









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