Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
I seem to remember someone mentioning miracle myst (mist?) a few years ago, never needed to try it myself. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:55 PM, linda...@comcast.net wrote: I believe in the honey. Lindaf
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
I bought the honey based on your recommendation a few months ago, but if you remember how you said they use it. Quadius On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:55 PM, linda...@comcast.net wrote: I believe in the honey. Lindaf
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
I believe in the honey. Lindaf
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
I used bag balm for a stage III ulcer I had under my testicles and it healed within nine days, but that was nine days of bedtime. I have also had some problems with a stage III just above my coccyx. The first time I had this it took about nine days to heal with complete bedtime. I used bag balm both times on the open as well as around the area. We noticed significant improvement as soon as I started using the product. I have another one which started the other day, but I spent five days down and used bag balm once again and it is nothing more than a small red spot now. My problems being caused by the recline feature on my chair, so I had them shut it off. So hopefully I won't have any more problems. I have the honey also, but I don't know which is better. I'll be happy to read what others say. Quadius On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:41 AM, donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com wrote: eric, is it ok to use the bag balm on a open soar? *From:* Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 6:36 AM *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - *From:* donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM *Subject:* [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine hi group, ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else? thanks for your input and help, donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
Bob, I have had some problems over the last year, but so far I am managing them pretty well. I think I have the cause of my difficulties identified and hopefully remedied. I am wondering if I might be classifying my skin problems different than everyone else. Could you go over the stages of the ulcer. I want to make sure I'm on the same sheet of music. Thanks, Quadius On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@pacbell.net wrote: I wrote an article about healing pressure sores in January New Mobility. I was fortunate to speak with the best wound care specialists in the business--all of them said that proper hydration with H20 is an important key, AND proper nutrition and taking in enough calories is also crucial. I've had a few battles with tiny sores that have gotten to the stage II even stage III area. First thing I do when I get anything at stage II or beyond is go straight to my local outpatient wound care specialist--they usually fit me in to their schedule quick--and they know exactly what to do at each stage of the wound, when to take away dead skin, when to leave it alone, how to add products to change the PH in the wound when healing is stalled. I have other friends that do their best by avoiding the hassle of going to a specialist and work with various dressings, preparations, etc. but are relying on friends of friends advice--some of them have been battling the small manageable pressure sores for years. Just sayin' Here is a link to the New Mobility article--I'm hoping it helps. Wising fast healing. http://www.newmobility.com/articleView.cfm?id=11781srch=pressure%20sores Bob Vogel On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:09 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: but not recommended for open wounds, sores or ulcers. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/22/2011 8:37:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - *From:* donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM *Subject:* [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine hi group, ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else? thanks for your input and help, donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: donald scott To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine hi group, ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else? thanks for your input and help, donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
eric, is it ok to use the bag balm on a open soar? From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: donald scott To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine hi group, ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else? thanks for your input and help, donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
don't think you're suppose to use it on open sores. i use it in crotch/butt area for chaffing, red areas, etc. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: donald scott To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine eric, is it ok to use the bag balm on a open soar? From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: donald scott To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine hi group, ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else? thanks for your input and help, donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
pressures sores, should always be your 1st priority. Everything else is 2nd. In time you will learn the difference between staying off your butts vs complete bedrest and turning each 3 hours. Meds and Chemicals only do so much. Diet is equally important, as with age and skin texture. Pressure sores usually get worse, before they begin to get better and dead tissue is removed and fresh tissue is promoted. Some change dressing twice a day and the wound vac should also be part of your therapy. I hope you heal quickly. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/22/2011 8:31:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rollingl...@yahoo.com writes: hi group, ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else? thanks for your input and help, donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
but not recommended for open wounds, sores or ulcers. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/22/2011 8:37:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: I use _http://www.bagbalm.com/_ (http://www.bagbalm.com/) daily great stuff. Eric W Rudd _c5sci97@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _donald scott_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine hi group, ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else? thanks for your input and help, donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
I wrote an article about healing pressure sores in January New Mobility. I was fortunate to speak with the best wound care specialists in the business--all of them said that proper hydration with H20 is an important key, AND proper nutrition and taking in enough calories is also crucial. I've had a few battles with tiny sores that have gotten to the stage II even stage III area. First thing I do when I get anything at stage II or beyond is go straight to my local outpatient wound care specialist--they usually fit me in to their schedule quick--and they know exactly what to do at each stage of the wound, when to take away dead skin, when to leave it alone, how to add products to change the PH in the wound when healing is stalled. I have other friends that do their best by avoiding the hassle of going to a specialist and work with various dressings, preparations, etc. but are relying on friends of friends advice--some of them have been battling the small manageable pressure sores for years. Just sayin' Here is a link to the New Mobility article--I'm hoping it helps. Wising fast healing. http://www.newmobility.com/articleView.cfm?id=11781srch=pressure%20sores Bob Vogel On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:09 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: but not recommended for open wounds, sores or ulcers. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/22/2011 8:37:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: donald scott To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine hi group, ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else? thanks for your input and help, donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat losing
air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we bought wound
care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried we applied the
lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag balm and
{boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early stage of
pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it has a funny name
but
works very well---these can be found at stores like kmart--target and some
walgreens I think. good luck ! hope this helps, Dan H.
From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
hi group,
ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he
recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as
trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be
up
more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work before
summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly better but
now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion yesterday
which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i give up on
the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing result? any
suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay down in bed but
she needs to work. also is the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can
or something else?
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
The best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal the
earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast. It costs about
$9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months
of using it evening and morning on my butt. Works well on skin anywhere. I
apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin. I learned this from a
world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and Supercrip--he
swears by the stuff.
Bob V
On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:
Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat losing
air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we bought
wound care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried we applied
the lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag balm and
{boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early stage of
pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it has a funny name
but works very well---these can be found at stores like kmart--target and
some walgreens I think. good luck ! hope this helps, Dan H.
From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
hi group,
ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago.
he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as
well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but
need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks
of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get
slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a
new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on
is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a
quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious
answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you
folks use the one in the green can or something else?
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
Would that be Mark Welman?
Best Wishes
In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:59:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes:
The best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal
the earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast. It
costs about $9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months
of using it evening and morning on my butt. Works well on skin anywhere.
I apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin. I learned this
from a world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and Supercrip--he
swears by the stuff.
Bob V
On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:
Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat
losing air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we
bought
wound care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried we
applied the lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag balm
and {boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early stage
of pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it has a funny
name but works very well---these can be found at stores like kmart--target
and some walgreens I think. good luck ! hope this helps, Dan H.
From: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com)
To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
hi group,
ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about
the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month
ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad
as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile
but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more
weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did
get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did
get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need
opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm
for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the
obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag
balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
=
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
You guessed it! He used to drone on and on about The Sween Cream brother!
Gotta have the Sween Cream to keep the skin strong. About 6-months ago I
started having serious problems with red, dry cracking
skin and started having heal tiny stage II cracks. I remembered his animated
Gotta have the Sween Cream Brother! Remark--and hunted some down. Available
online and at specialty pharmacies.
Within a few days of using Sween Cream the redness and dryness and cracking
went away. It rubs in well too so there is no residue--and within 10-minutes
of rubbing it in you can apply bandages or adhesives over
it. I know I sound like a commercial--but I have no affiliation with them.
Wish I did...
Bob V
On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:11 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote:
Would that be Mark Welman?
Best Wishes
In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:59:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes:
The best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal
the earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast. It costs
about $9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months
of using it evening and morning on my butt. Works well on skin anywhere. I
apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin. I learned this from a
world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and Supercrip--he
swears by the stuff.
Bob V
On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:
Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat losing
air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we bought
wound care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried we
applied the lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag
balm and {boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early
stage of pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it has a
funny name but works very well---these can be found at stores like
kmart--target and some walgreens I think. good luck ! hope this helps, Dan
H.
From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
hi group,
ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago.
he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as
well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but
need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks
of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get
slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a
new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions
on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a
quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious
answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag balm you
folks use the one in the green can or something else?
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
=
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
I just knew it. Mark is a super human being and a talented para-glider, in
his spare time. His group performs at places like county fairs and
performs trick maneuvers , while wearing smoke grenades. They land away from
the
grandstands and then roll out in their chairs to the screaming audiences.
I'll never forget Mark's performance at the 1996 Summer Paralympics in
Atlanta.
Thanks and Best Wishes
In a message dated 7/22/2011 4:27:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes:
You guessed it! He used to drone on and on about The Sween Cream
brother! Gotta have the Sween Cream to keep the skin strong. About 6-months
ago
I started having serious problems with red, dry cracking
skin and started having heal tiny stage II cracks. I remembered his
animated Gotta have the Sween Cream Brother! Remark--and hunted some down.
Available online and at specialty pharmacies.
Within a few days of using Sween Cream the redness and dryness and
cracking went away. It rubs in well too so there is no residue--and within
10-minutes of rubbing it in you can apply bandages or adhesives over
it. I know I sound like a commercial--but I have no affiliation with
them. Wish I did...
Bob V
On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:11 PM, _wheelchair@aol.com_
(mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) wrote:
Would that be Mark Welman?
Best Wishes
In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:59:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_rhvshark@pacbell.net_ (mailto:rhvsh...@pacbell.net) writes:
The best stuff I've found to protect skin, heal redness, dryness, and heal
the earliest stages (non-broken) skin is Sween Cream by Coloplast. It
costs about $9-$12 bucks for a tube that will last several months
of using it evening and morning on my butt. Works well on skin anywhere.
I apply it each morning and evening to protect my skin. I learned this
from a world famous Paraplegic Rock Climber and Supercrip--he
swears by the stuff.
Bob V
On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Danny Hearn wrote:
Hi, Don--I had a pressure sore a while back on my bottom from my seat
losing air---Some of the quads on here recommended ( lantiseptic ) so we
bought
wound care saline and would clean it with that then after it dried we
applied the lantiseptic cream--Mine healed very quickly after that--- Bag balm
and {boudreaux butt paste} are very good for rash, redness oe early stage
of pressure sores. My doctor told us about the butt paste---it has a funny
name but works very well---these can be found at stores like kmart--target
and some walgreens I think. good luck ! hope this helps, Dan H.
From: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com)
To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:30:47 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
hi group,
ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my
first pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about
the size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay
2 cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month
ago. he recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad
as well as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile
but need to be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more
weeks of work before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it
did get slightly better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did
get a new cushion yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need
opinions on is should i give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm
for a quicker healing result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the
obvious answer is stay down in bed but she needs to work. also is the bag
balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete
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Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
Thanks for the Cool Reply, You have all of the info correct... Except, you are rolling 3 wheelers into one it's totally understandable. All three of us will take this as a compliment. Mark Wellman made national television and newspaper headlines when he--a T12 paraplegic--climbed the 3,000 foot rock wall--El Capitan in Yosemite National Park in 1989. He made more national news a few years later when he climbed Yosemite's 3,000foot Half Home live on national--the last few days of the climb ended up being live because of two reasons A) New Anchor Tom Brokaw is a rock climber and a Wellman fan. B) They were pinned down by sickness and weather--the climb lasted 13 days instead of the planned-upon 9-days and they ran out of food and water on the rock, but made it anyway. Mark is also a adaptive adventure video producer. Enter Person #2--me, Bob Vogel, T10 paraplegic. I'm Marks age, same hair color, same mustache, similar build--his arms are much bigger than mine. I'm a hang glider pilot. In the late 1987 I created a famous advertisement for Everest Jennings Wheelchairs where I flew my hang glider next to my empty EJ wheelchair, on the edge of a 150 foot cliff--see below. I also produced an adaptive sports video in 1987 called Go Beyond the Limits featuring paraplegics and quadriplegics doing the following sports: Hang Gliding, HobieCat Sailing, Airplane Flying, Off-road car off-road racing, Wheelchair racing, Basketball, and Wheelchair tennis--and I toured the country for many years doing speaking presentations at hospitals, rehab centers, and abilities expos. Enter Person #3 Dan Buchanan--A T6 paraplegic and professional air-show hang glider pilot. Dan fly's a propeller driven hang glider--an ultralight--and also has an airshow act where he gets towed up to about 2,000 feet behind a vehicle that pays out line to get his hang glider to altitude--complete with smoke bombs, and throws candy to kids You nailed it--Mark is the guy that climbed up the tower and lit the Torch at the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta. To further confuse matters, Dan, Mark and I are all good friends, and Dan and I have had separate segments in one of Mark's adventure videos--Me Scuba Diving with a Manta Ray and Sea Lions in the Sea of Cortez, Dan Hang Gliding on the Pacific Coast of California. I've had many people compliment me on my amazing Yosemite climbs, Mark has had many people compliment him on his amazing hang gliding advertisement--we crack each other up playing off of this. Our friend enjoy giving us a hard time about this. And--I SWEAR THIS IS TRUE--I was at a hang gliding festival in Lakeview, Oregon and a very attractive woman came up to me around 11:00am--gave me a huge hug and kiss, complimented me on my incredible lovemaking skills, she had never been satisfied over and over again like that and she was ready to go on the tandem hang glider ride I promised her. Dan Buchanan IS a licensed tandem hang glider pilot, I DON'T have my tandem rating. Apparently Dan Buchanan had a fantastic evening with this woman AND forgot he was supposed to take her tandem flying, he had already headed to launch to go flying. I tried to explain that there is another hang glider pilot in town, who is a paraplegic, has a mustache, etc.--she ended up getting really pissed and stormed off--much to the uproarious laughter of my friends--friends that refer to us as DanBob. Friends that will accidentally say to me Dan, do you want your chair out of the back of the truck.? A) Errr, I'm Bob. Dan's at work today. Yeah, fine, whatever. Do you want your chair?. yup... Bob V On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:42 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: I just knew it. Mark is a super human being and a talented para-glider, in his spare time. His group performs at places like county fairs and performs trick maneuvers , while wearing smoke grenades. They land away from the grandstands and then roll out in their chairs to the screaming audiences. I'll never forget Mark's performance at the 1996 Summer Paralympics in Atlanta. Thanks and Best Wishes In a message dated 7/22/2011 4:27:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes: You guessed it! He used to drone on and on about The Sween Cream brother! Gotta have the Sween Cream to keep the skin strong. About 6-months ago I started having serious problems with red, dry cracking skin and started having heal tiny stage II cracks. I remembered his animated Gotta have the Sween Cream Brother! Remark--and hunted some down. Available online and at specialty pharmacies. Within a few days of using Sween Cream the redness and dryness and cracking went away. It rubs in well too so there is no residue--and within 10-minutes of rubbing it in you can apply bandages or adhesives over it. I know I sound like a commercial--but I have no affiliation with them. Wish I did... Bob V On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:11 PM,
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
DOH!!??!! Link to Mark Wellman article: http://www.newmobility.com/articleView.cfm?id=134srch=Mark%20Wellman On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: I forgot--here is a link to my article on Mark Wellman--from 1998 And a photo from my 1987 EJ ad for the EJ Impulse Wheelchair. Bob V EJ Hang Glide by Chair.JPE.jpg On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: Thanks for the Cool Reply, You have all of the info correct... Except, you are rolling 3 wheelers into one it's totally understandable. All three of us will take this as a compliment. Mark Wellman made national television and newspaper headlines when he--a T12 paraplegic--climbed the 3,000 foot rock wall--El Capitan in Yosemite National Park in 1989. He made more national news a few years later when he climbed Yosemite's 3,000foot Half Home live on national--the last few days of the climb ended up being live because of two reasons A) New Anchor Tom Brokaw is a rock climber and a Wellman fan. B) They were pinned down by sickness and weather--the climb lasted 13 days instead of the planned-upon 9-days and they ran out of food and water on the rock, but made it anyway. Mark is also a adaptive adventure video producer. Enter Person #2--me, Bob Vogel, T10 paraplegic. I'm Marks age, same hair color, same mustache, similar build--his arms are much bigger than mine. I'm a hang glider pilot. In the late 1987 I created a famous advertisement for Everest Jennings Wheelchairs where I flew my hang glider next to my empty EJ wheelchair, on the edge of a 150 foot cliff--see below. I also produced an adaptive sports video in 1987 called Go Beyond the Limits featuring paraplegics and quadriplegics doing the following sports: Hang Gliding, HobieCat Sailing, Airplane Flying, Off-road car off-road racing, Wheelchair racing, Basketball, and Wheelchair tennis--and I toured the country for many years doing speaking presentations at hospitals, rehab centers, and abilities expos. Enter Person #3 Dan Buchanan--A T6 paraplegic and professional air-show hang glider pilot. Dan fly's a propeller driven hang glider--an ultralight--and also has an airshow act where he gets towed up to about 2,000 feet behind a vehicle that pays out line to get his hang glider to altitude--complete with smoke bombs, and throws candy to kids You nailed it--Mark is the guy that climbed up the tower and lit the Torch at the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta. To further confuse matters, Dan, Mark and I are all good friends, and Dan and I have had separate segments in one of Mark's adventure videos--Me Scuba Diving with a Manta Ray and Sea Lions in the Sea of Cortez, Dan Hang Gliding on the Pacific Coast of California. I've had many people compliment me on my amazing Yosemite climbs, Mark has had many people compliment him on his amazing hang gliding advertisement--we crack each other up playing off of this. Our friend enjoy giving us a hard time about this. And--I SWEAR THIS IS TRUE--I was at a hang gliding festival in Lakeview, Oregon and a very attractive woman came up to me around 11:00am--gave me a huge hug and kiss, complimented me on my incredible lovemaking skills, she had never been satisfied over and over again like that and she was ready to go on the tandem hang glider ride I promised her. Dan Buchanan IS a licensed tandem hang glider pilot, I DON'T have my tandem rating. Apparently Dan Buchanan had a fantastic evening with this woman AND forgot he was supposed to take her tandem flying, he had already headed to launch to go flying. I tried to explain that there is another hang glider pilot in town, who is a paraplegic, has a mustache, etc.--she ended up getting really pissed and stormed off--much to the uproarious laughter of my friends--friends that refer to us as DanBob. Friends that will accidentally say to me Dan, do you want your chair out of the back of the truck.? A) Errr, I'm Bob. Dan's at work today. Yeah, fine, whatever. Do you want your chair?. yup... Bob V On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:42 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: I just knew it. Mark is a super human being and a talented para-glider, in his spare time. His group performs at places like county fairs and performs trick maneuvers , while wearing smoke grenades. They land away from the grandstands and then roll out in their chairs to the screaming audiences. I'll never forget Mark's performance at the 1996 Summer Paralympics in Atlanta. Thanks and Best Wishes In a message dated 7/22/2011 4:27:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes: You guessed it! He used to drone on and on about The Sween Cream brother! Gotta have the Sween Cream to keep the skin strong. About 6-months ago I started having serious problems with red, dry cracking skin and started having heal tiny stage II cracks. I remembered his animated Gotta have the
Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine
I remember Go Beyond The Limits when it first came out. Mark's best show was when he opened the 1995 Summer ParaOlympics during the torch lighting ceremony. The Stadium was packed with standing room only. Tickets for the ceremony were sold out long before the event. I bet there were thousands more on the outside of the stadium that night when the stadium went dark. Mark entered a totally dark stadium with the torch held between his knees. All anyone could see in the pitch dark was the moving torch. Sudden the torch stop and began a graceful ascent towards the Paralympic Torch. As he neared the top and just before he lighted the flame, the lights in the stadium were brought up ever so slowing. Most could not tell that a human had wheeled in and had climbs a cable with his hands and the torch between his knees that evening. The languages began describing to others what was happening and you could hear the ground swell of support with yelling and clapping, with shouts and cheers and Mark continued up the cable, without effort. During the same ceremony two weeks prior for the Summer Olympics the same stadium was cleared by midnight, but on this night the crowd with so much excitement and energy was still packed at 2AM the next morning. Mark's performance that night will live in my mind forever. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/22/2011 5:25:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rhvsh...@pacbell.net writes: Thanks for the Cool Reply, You have all of the info correct... Except, you are rolling 3 wheelers into one it's totally understandable. All three of us will take this as a compliment. Mark Wellman made national television and newspaper headlines when he--a T12 paraplegic--climbed the 3,000 foot rock wall--El Capitan in Yosemite National Park in 1989. He made more national news a few years later when he climbed Yosemite's 3,000foot Half Home live on national--the last few days of the climb ended up being live because of two reasons A) New Anchor Tom Brokaw is a rock climber and a Wellman fan. B) They were pinned down by sickness and weather--the climb lasted 13 days instead of the planned-upon 9-days and they ran out of food and water on the rock, but made it anyway. Mark is also a adaptive adventure video producer. Enter Person #2--me, Bob Vogel, T10 paraplegic. I'm Marks age, same hair color, same mustache, similar build--his arms are much bigger than mine. I'm a hang glider pilot. In the late 1987 I created a famous advertisement for Everest Jennings Wheelchairs where I flew my hang glider next to my empty EJ wheelchair, on the edge of a 150 foot cliff--see below. I also produced an adaptive sports video in 1987 called Go Beyond the Limits featuring paraplegics and quadriplegics doing the following sports: Hang Gliding, HobieCat Sailing, Airplane Flying, Off-road car off-road racing, Wheelchair racing, Basketball, and Wheelchair tennis--and I toured the country for many years doing speaking presentations at hospitals, rehab centers, and abilities expos. Enter Person #3 Dan Buchanan--A T6 paraplegic and professional air-show hang glider pilot. Dan fly's a propeller driven hang glider--an ultralight--and also has an airshow act where he gets towed up to about 2,000 feet behind a vehicle that pays out line to get his hang glider to altitude--complete with smoke bombs, and throws candy to kids You nailed it--Mark is the guy that climbed up the tower and lit the Torch at the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta. To further confuse matters, Dan, Mark and I are all good friends, and Dan and I have had separate segments in one of Mark's adventure videos--Me Scuba Diving with a Manta Ray and Sea Lions in the Sea of Cortez, Dan Hang Gliding on the Pacific Coast of California. I've had many people compliment me on my amazing Yosemite climbs, Mark has had many people compliment him on his amazing hang gliding advertisement--we crack each other up playing off of this. Our friend enjoy giving us a hard time about this. And--I SWEAR THIS IS TRUE--I was at a hang gliding festival in Lakeview, Oregon and a very attractive woman came up to me around 11:00am--gave me a huge hug and kiss, complimented me on my incredible lovemaking skills, she had never been satisfied over and over again like that and she was ready to go on the tandem hang glider ride I promised her. Dan Buchanan IS a licensed tandem hang glider pilot, I DON'T have my tandem rating. Apparently Dan Buchanan had a fantastic evening with this woman AND forgot he was supposed to take her tandem flying, he had already headed to launch to go flying. I tried to explain that there is another hang glider pilot in town, who is a paraplegic, has a mustache, etc.--she ended up getting really pissed and stormed off--much to the uproarious laughter of my friends--friends that refer to us as DanBob. Friends that
