RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Martin

 

 

Following Jim Hearne’s advice, I decided to fit a new standard clutch I bought 
4 years ago. The bite point is a bit lower, so I bought a manual adjust clutch 
pedal from Burton Power, but now that I have driven it more I have found it 
driveable so not rushing to fit it.

 

I’m also pleased to report the judder on moving off has gone.

 

Thanks all for your advice

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of susanandmartin
Sent: 17 February 2023 09:17
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

Hi Chris,

Did you have success with finding a clutch kit?

Martin Scott

 

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow.

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

Thanks Martin and Darren

 

I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I 
first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off 
the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from 
production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. 

 

Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can 
assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a 
compatible substitute. 

 

I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they 
were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong.

 

Chris

 

 

 

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[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of susanandmartin
Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older 
part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t 
expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I 
think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar 
magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well 
as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they 
delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of 
wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the 
cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊

Martin Scott

 

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

 

I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover 
plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the 
original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a 
replacement. 

 

Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the 
clutch.

 

If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a 
replacement for the following?

 

The friction plate is marked

 

Motorcraft

90 AB 7550 CA

LOW LIFT

LUK

 

Thanks in advance

 

Chris Fairlie

Q2-001

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow.

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

Thanks Martin and Darren

 

I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I 
first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off 
the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from 
production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. 

 

Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can 
assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a 
compatible substitute. 

 

I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they 
were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong.

 

Chris

 

 

 

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[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of susanandmartin
Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older 
part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t 
expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I 
think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar 
magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well 
as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they 
delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of 
wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the 
cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊

Martin Scott

 

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

 

I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover 
plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the 
original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a 
replacement. 

 

Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the 
clutch.

 

If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a 
replacement for the following?

 

The friction plate is marked

 

Motorcraft

90 AB 7550 CA

LOW LIFT

LUK

 

Thanks in advance

 

Chris Fairlie

Q2-001

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

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Thanks Martin and Darren

 

I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I 
first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off 
the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from 
production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. 

 

Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can 
assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a 
compatible substitute. 

 

I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they 
were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong.

 

Chris

 

 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of susanandmartin
Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older 
part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t 
expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I 
think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar 
magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well 
as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they 
delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of 
wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the 
cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊

Martin Scott

 

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

 

 

I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover 
plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the 
original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a 
replacement. 

 

Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the 
clutch.

 

If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a 
replacement for the following?

 

The friction plate is marked

 

Motorcraft

90 AB 7550 CA

LOW LIFT

LUK

 

Thanks in advance

 

Chris Fairlie

Q2-001

 

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[Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover 
plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the 
original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a 
replacement. 

Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the 
clutch.

If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a 
replacement for the following?

The friction plate is marked

Motorcraft
90 AB 7550 CA
LOW LIFT
LUK

Thanks in advance

Chris Fairlie
Q2-001

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Electric Windows

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

John

 

I can confirm that MK1 KA window regulators can be used. I wrote an article, 
published on Quantum Mechanics Issue 95 (Autumn 2018) explaining how I fitted 
them in a 2+2. Later I Andy Heaton and I fitted some to his saloon. The link 
Steve provided shows how to shorten the runner. The other issue is the KA 
regulator cables are shorter than the Mk3 Fiesta 3 door units so the motor 
mounting holes need to be relocated.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 27 May 2022 10:51
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric Windows

 

John,

I hope this is the image you remember on the club website.

https://www.quantumowners.club/index.php/faq-qoc/27-faq-saloon/11-qoc-faq-saloon-window-mods

Regards,
Steve

On 25/05/2022 18:36, list...@liberator-systems.co.uk 
<mailto:list...@liberator-systems.co.uk>  wrote:

@ Jim 

The use of 4 core cable may well be for redundancy but my guess is as you say 
they just used what they had ;-) - that fits with a lot of the other additional 
wiring where it appears they only ever had 2 wire colors in stock. 

All 4 cores seem to have god continuity so  at least I don't have to replace 
that as it looks like a pig to do.

Not sure if my window switches are Ford - they look like the generic 
rectangular electric window 5 pin switch with spade terminals - maybe they have 
already been replaced once.

I have not measured the load motors draw but my early version copy of build 
manual show 30A fuse on supply so relays seem a better way than direct - as you 
say need 2 per side

 

Looking at regulators I can now see mine  have the 90 degree bend at bottom 
(what a bodge solution that was LOL) so most likely a failure waiting to happen 
if not already  in progress!

I recall seeing a drawing detailing window mods (I think you were the 
authorJim) but cannot find it now.

 

@Martin

The KA mk1 units look like the best option to me - easily and cheaply available 
and newer. The cable sections are shorter than the the Fiesta MK3 so the motor 
mount position would have to move but that is easy enough. Same motor reverse 
polarity operation via switch (or relay in my case).

 

With regard motor change I think it should be possible (but probably not cost 
effective)  - the motor just drives a worm gear but that of course needs to be 
same on both units. I have taken regulators apart before to replace cables - 
most of them just wind the cables around a grooved nylon drum. I think in 
theory you could shorten the cable instead of fitting spacer on sleeve (need to 
solder on new nipple in correct place). 

 

I have now confirmed that I have the 90 degree bend units so these definitely 
need to be replaced.   

 

John

 

 

On Wednesday, 25 May 2022 at 15:28:12 UTC+1 
susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk 
<mailto:susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk>  wrote:

Hello John,

I adapted a mk1 Ford Ka unit to do the job – I suspect it’s almost identical to 
other Fords. The wiring is 2 core to each motor, and the polarity is changed by 
the switch for either up or down motion. 

I’m pretty sure it’s not possible (or certainly very difficult ) to just change 
the motor unit because the lift wire is coiled within a geared housing attached 
to the motor – If you are brave enough to dismantle an existing unit from your 
car it may answer whether a motor swap is possible. I changed to electric 
because my manual winders had the ‘bend the track’ modification, which is 
ultimately doomed for failure because the lift wire cuts into the track – If 
the tracks on your car are modified in this way (bent 90 degrees) that could 
explain the slow movement. If it is helpful, the 

conversion covering the parts needed and how to make the changes without 
bending the track was in issue 176 (March 2021) of Complete Kit Car magazine 

Back Issues [2] - performancepublishing.co.uk 
<https://www.performancepublishing.co.uk/back-issues/page/2/> 

Regards, Martin Scott 

 

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From: list...@liberator-systems.co.uk
Sent: 25 May 2022 14:50
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Electric Windows

 

I have recently been doing quite a bit of rewiring on my saloon (factory 
built). I noticed the wiring cable for electric windows (looks original) is 4 
core (Red white black brown) going from cabin into door cavity  but at each end 
of this cable 2 pairs are joined so effectively 2 core cable connecting motor 
to centre console switch. Wondering why 4 core cable was used in build? - 
possible wiring of extra door switch? . The wire gauge looks same on 4 core and 
switch connection cables so extra load capacity seems unlikely. Currently the 
switches are wired directly (no relays). New switches and relay operation are 
going to be fitted. 

 

Window movemen

RE: [Quantum Owners] QOC Website

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Hi Steve

I managed to access the site fine.

Chris

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From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 15 April 2020 09:37
To: QOC Google Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] QOC Website

I hope everyone is staying safe and well during these difficult times.

As I am currently isolating too far away from my cars I have extra time on my 
hands at weekends. Therefore I took the opportunity over the bank holiday to 
upgrade the operating system that the club website is hosted from. This allowed 
me to upgrade the website security to support the latest encryption algorithms.

This should not cause any issues if you keep your systems updated, but please 
take a look at https://www.quantumowners.club and let me know if you have any 
issues accessing it.

Regards,
Steve


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[Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh Kit Car Show postponed

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Just looked at the Stoneleigh Kit Car web site. It won’t be a huge surprise, 
there is a message stating the show has been postponed (New date yet to be 
confirmed).

 

Keep safe

 

Chris

 

 

 

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Sent: 14 March 2020 14:05
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel hose

 

Thought we needed to get the ethanol resistant hose these days.   I have bought 
and fitted SAEJ30 R9 hose.  The R6 got eaten relatively quickly.  

 

Derek

 





On 14 Mar 2020, at 10:15, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Geoff,

 

This blog has a good explanation and links that might be useful.

 

https://blog.heritagepartscentre.com/blog/2014/05/15/e10-fuelling-speculation/

 

Regards,

Steve

 

On 13 March 2020 17:15:35 Geoff Ward mailto:carole.ge...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, Does anyone have any recommendations on where to purchase good quality fuel 
hose. Needs to be suitable for unleaded, fuel injection and last longer than a 
year or two!

 

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Another option if we get stuck

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiesta-Mk1-Brake-Servo/323956924112?hash=item4b6d565ed0:g:mOAAAOSwKeNdsFfA

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 11 March 2020 12:07
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 Fiesta servo for 003

 

Hi All,

The servo for Mk1 Quantum 003 has turned out to be seized (never come across 
that before).

We are trying to get it finished for Stoneleigh, does anybody have a spare that 
they would part with ?

It has to be from a Mk1 Fiesta as it’s a smaller diameter body and there is no 
space for the larger Mk2 one (not that they are easy to find either).

 

Many thanks,

 

Jim

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Xtreme build manual

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Mark

Where are you based? 

I'm in Southampton and have a manual you are welcome to borrow it if you are 
local.

Chris Fairlie

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mark Olsen
Sent: 15 February 2019 19:06
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Xtreme build manual

Hello all,
New quantum owner here as I've just bought myself an Xtreme second hand. My 
budget wasn't huge so I ended up buying one that looks like its been a bit 
unloved for a few years and consequently needs quite a few things doing to 
restore it.

What would be really handy would be a copy of the build manual so I can see how 
the car is assembled. Does anybody know if there is a way I can get hold of a 
manual?

Thanks.
Mark

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Genuine Mk3 Fiesta 3 door electric window mechanisms are getting hard to find. 
I managed to modify KA Mk 1 (1996 to 2008) using the later factor method of 
shortening the track and adding a short spacer. I have sent an article to be 
published in the next Quantum Mechanics Magazine. The big plusses here are the 
KA mechanisms are readily available at £20 each, they use exactly the same 
connectors as Fiesta Mk3 and best of all they use the same track profile. The 
only small issues are the top mounting is different and the motor mounts nearer 
to the track, but issues can be overcome.

 

I am happy to help or share more details if required.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 25 October 2018 11:37
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

 

Yes, there was, you could buy it to fit yourself.

I bought one.

It still used the manual lifter and a remote motor with a cable driven gearbox 
that fitted over the manual winder instead of the handle.

 

Jim



On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:12:02 AM UTC+1, Susan and Martin Scott 
wrote:

It seems there was a (maybe dealer fitted)?  kit which replaced the manual 
handle with a motor on the door card! 

I found it on a Fiesta forum on the 'net.

Martin

- Original Message - 

From: Jim Hearne <mailto:j...@quantums.info>  

To: Quantum Owners Group <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:06 AM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

 

There wasn't a MK2 fiesta part with electric windows, these are Mk3 parts 
incorrectly listed. 

 

I've posted several replies to this thread via email but none of them make it 
to the group.

Anybody else getting this ?

 

This reply i've done on the web site.

 

Jim



On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:01:52 AM UTC+1, paulk wrote: 

I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so of the 
rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed on the 
bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 q2129 the 
rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece moved up and 
bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed inline with the 
cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 window mechanism as 
I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw one with electric 
windows.  

 

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews, mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

HI Steve, 

 

I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?

 

ATB

 

Derek

 





On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Derek,

I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the QSC 
recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special tools, so 
welding parts wouldn't have been expected.

 

I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.

 

Regards,

Steve

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quantumowners.club <http://quantumowners.club> 

 

On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Dear All, 

 

To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649>
 &_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

 

This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal rail.  
It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and fit the 
socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm shortening to fit 
the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting. 

 

As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm by 
being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground to 
shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the usual 
way when built?  

 

I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut one end 
shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.  

 

ATB

 

Derek

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Geoff struggled with his scanner, so he sent me a photograph. 

 

Hopefully the attachment will upload with the message.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sir Lancelot
Sent: 10 September 2018 10:44
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris

 

Good to hear you've made some progress but can you enlighten the rest of us on 
the pedal box modification that Geoff has or can Geoff post the details?

On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 9:03:02 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

I’m glad to report some progress. Refitted the original low lift clutch and 
guess what. I have a bite point above the floor, albeit low. Happy Days.

 

So I will try to find an exact replacement clutch kit. Also Geoff Ward provided 
a copy of the pedal box modification from the late build manual which is 
supposed to help too.

 

Thanks for all you help and advice, especially Andy Heaton who helped me to 
take the engine out again this afternoon.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantu...@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 07 September 2018 09:45
To: Quantum Owners Group  >
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I should be able to look it up tonight.

 

Jim



On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 10:10:14 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

Thanks Jim

 

Any idea what part number the short arm is? 

 

I have found on with part number 88AU7515AA, are you able to identify this?

 

Chris

 

 

 

From: quantu...@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 06 September 2018 22:05
To: Quantum Owners Group  >
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I thought i had mentioned this in a earlier reply but maybe i didn't.

 

There were 2 lengths of clutch release lever used that match up with the 2 
cable holes in the gearbox that you've seen.

As you say, the shorter level will give you more movement on the release 
bearing for the same cable movement but at the expense of a heavier pedal.

I'm not really sure why there were 2 lengths but i've always used the short 
lever.

I guess it's possible that the long lever was for the low lift bearing which 
needed less movement.

 

As has been mentioned, the lever can shear off where it is welded to the shaft, 
also the bolt can shear off where the release bearing bracket is attached 
inside the gearbox/

 

The later gearboxes had a different lever arrangment which attached to a 
separate shaft via splines and a pinch bolt.

 

Jim

 

Jim



On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 8:29:22 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

Martin

 

I hear what you are saying about the Quadrant, I want to ensure no easy fixes 
are left untried.

 

Unfortunately it is too late to make more checks as the engine/gearbox are out 
again. However I can confirm he clutch pedal was going to the floor. Actually I 
was hitting the Fiberglass bulkhead as I removed all the carpet and sound 
deadening from behind the pedal just to eliminate that concern.

 

My other thought is the gearbox has two holes for the clutch cable to pass 
through. I am starting to wonder if I can use the other hole which means tha 
cable will pull on the release arm nearer to the shaft so I get more degrees of 
turn for a given movement of the clutch pedal. I know this will lead to a 
heavier clutch pedal, I need to find something that will work. This would need 
a different, shorter, arm of some sort of mod to the existing one.

 

While the gear linkage UJ is a little stiff. I had no problem selecting gears 
before taking the engine out and I can select gears easily when the engine 
isn’t running. So definitely the clutch is dragging even when the clutch pedal 
is fully depressed.

 

Chris

 

From: quantu...@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf Of Susan and 
Martin Scott
Sent: 06 September 2018 13:37
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hmm - Your thought that the thrust bearing may have been pressing (when it 
shouldn't) sounds correct. The movement of the cable will only be 10% more with 
the 55mm quadrant - Is it possible to check how much cable is pulled when the 
clutch is fully depressed, in order to get an idea whether the arm will nearly 
reach the limit (ie hit casing)?  Does the pedal hit the floor, or could the 
arm move more if the pedal was able to move more (ie bigger quadrant will help 
by 10%) if that makes sense.  Just trying to get an idea of the full 
picture... All knowledge gained before tackling the job is probably 
worthwhile. I went round in circles with replacing quadrant/cable until I 
realised the issue must be the clutch (also had the gearchange linkage in bits, 
and although that 

RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Derek

 

This looks like an aftermarket pattern part. While it would probably fit a 
Fiesta fine, unfortunately you may struggle to fit it because not all of them 
can be modified to fit in the shallower door of our Qs. I know because I 
started with a similar item. The plus with the Ka ones is they can be modified 
in exactly same way as the Fiesta ones. Also good used working items can be 
bought for under £20.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Derek Clews
Sent: 10 September 2018 09:59
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

HI All,

 

Just found that you can buy the original 2 door Mk2 version. 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232462190335?ul_noapp=true

 

£68.57

 

I have ordered one for the Coupe to try it.

 

ATB

 

Derek

 

 

 





On 10 Sep 2018, at 08:14, 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Martin

 

Yes Mk1 bubble shape, I believe up to about 2008. If I remember correctly the 
Mk1 was based on a Fiesta.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 09 September 2018 22:12
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Is that 'original' mk1 Ka ie the bubble shaped one, not the mk2 based on the 
Fiat 500 platform?

Martin

- Original Message - 

From:  <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum 
Owners Group

To:  <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> quantumowners@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:21 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Sorry this has been so long. I can confirm that Ford KA electric window winders 
can be used on the 2+2 in place of the Fiesta MK3 ones.

 

While this is good news, they are a straight swap as the cables are shorter 
than the Fiesta ones. I’m guessing the KA ones are the same length as the ones 
off the front a 5 door Fiesta. I managed to fit them using the Quantum 
modification that Jim has detailed on the club site, but I had to put the 
spacer at the bottom of the track rather than the top. The other good news is 
the KA track is identical so the Fiesta one so you can swap the KA cable and 
motor over to the Fiesta track which makes refitting easier. The other good 
news is the KA electrical connector is identical to the Fiesta one. The only 
bad news you need to drill new mounting holes and make sure the motor doesn’t 
foul with the threaded rod for the front window runner.

 

I hope this makes sense. If not, email me direct and I will give more details

 

Chris

 

From:  <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> quantumowners@googlegroups.com [ 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 16 June 2018 09:04
To:  <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Chris's suggestion on ka mk1 may be good, as the ka windows are very deep.

Martin

- Original Message - 

From:  <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> chris.quant via Quantum Owners 
Group

To:  <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> quantumowners@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:45 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

The Saloon uses MK3 Fiesta 3 door regulators as they’re bigger than the 5 door 
version.

I assume the 2+2 uses the same as the doors are a similar size and shape.

 

Chris G

 

 

 

From:  <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum 
Owners Group

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:49 PM

To:  <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> quantumowners@googlegroups.com

Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

I need to replace the electric window regulators on my 2+2. The O/S cable has 
broken and the N/S isn’t far behind. I received an aftermarket replacement 
today which cannot be shortened in the same way as the ford one and the motor 
appear to have shorter cables so it fowls with the lower mounting for the 
quarter light channel. This item is for a 4 door Fiesta Mk3 and Courier van. 

 

I know Quantum supplied Fiesta MK3 items, but does anyone know if they were for 
3 or 5 door models?

 

Also has anyone successfully fitted window regulators from another model as Mk3 
Fiesta ones are hard to find now? Perhaps Mk4 Fiesta or Mk1 KA?

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group [ 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 21:26
To:  &l

RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Martin

 

Yes Mk1 bubble shape, I believe up to about 2008. If I remember correctly the 
Mk1 was based on a Fiesta.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 09 September 2018 22:12
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Is that 'original' mk1 Ka ie the bubble shaped one, not the mk2 based on the 
Fiat 500 platform?

Martin

- Original Message - 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:21 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Sorry this has been so long. I can confirm that Ford KA electric window winders 
can be used on the 2+2 in place of the Fiesta MK3 ones.

 

While this is good news, they are a straight swap as the cables are shorter 
than the Fiesta ones. I’m guessing the KA ones are the same length as the ones 
off the front a 5 door Fiesta. I managed to fit them using the Quantum 
modification that Jim has detailed on the club site, but I had to put the 
spacer at the bottom of the track rather than the top. The other good news is 
the KA track is identical so the Fiesta one so you can swap the KA cable and 
motor over to the Fiesta track which makes refitting easier. The other good 
news is the KA electrical connector is identical to the Fiesta one. The only 
bad news you need to drill new mounting holes and make sure the motor doesn’t 
foul with the threaded rod for the front window runner.

 

I hope this makes sense. If not, email me direct and I will give more details

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 16 June 2018 09:04
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Chris's suggestion on ka mk1 may be good, as the ka windows are very deep.

Martin

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:45 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

The Saloon uses MK3 Fiesta 3 door regulators as they’re bigger than the 5 door 
version.

I assume the 2+2 uses the same as the doors are a similar size and shape.

 

Chris G

 

 

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:49 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

I need to replace the electric window regulators on my 2+2. The O/S cable has 
broken and the N/S isn’t far behind. I received an aftermarket replacement 
today which cannot be shortened in the same way as the ford one and the motor 
appear to have shorter cables so it fowls with the lower mounting for the 
quarter light channel. This item is for a 4 door Fiesta Mk3 and Courier van. 

 

I know Quantum supplied Fiesta MK3 items, but does anyone know if they were for 
3 or 5 door models?

 

Also has anyone successfully fitted window regulators from another model as Mk3 
Fiesta ones are hard to find now? Perhaps Mk4 Fiesta or Mk1 KA?

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 21:26
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Thanks Jim

 

From: 'Jim Turner' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 10:30
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Find attached the copy of the review of the first 2+2. The cover shows the car 
tested, but it also had a doctored picture of a planned flapped headlight model.

Jimt

On Friday, 25 May 2018 16:30:07 UTC+1, Stephen Fairhurst wrote:

I would like to sell my 2+2 which I have owned for 14 years .

 

The Chassis No is Q2-001 which I assume was the first car of the second 
generation built by Quantum.

 

I would like to offer it to the owners club members before I put it on general 
sale I only want £800 Iam more concerned she goes to a good home.

 

Here are some details

 

Original quantum spec Ford XR2 1600 engine/gearbox running gear etc 

Colour - red

Current mileage - 58600

MOT to 29th Nov 2018

4 recent new tyres

The hood is faded and has a few blemishes on it otherwise OK

A fe

RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Sorry this has been so long. I can confirm that Ford KA electric window winders 
can be used on the 2+2 in place of the Fiesta MK3 ones.

 

While this is good news, they are a straight swap as the cables are shorter 
than the Fiesta ones. I’m guessing the KA ones are the same length as the ones 
off the front a 5 door Fiesta. I managed to fit them using the Quantum 
modification that Jim has detailed on the club site, but I had to put the 
spacer at the bottom of the track rather than the top. The other good news is 
the KA track is identical so the Fiesta one so you can swap the KA cable and 
motor over to the Fiesta track which makes refitting easier. The other good 
news is the KA electrical connector is identical to the Fiesta one. The only 
bad news you need to drill new mounting holes and make sure the motor doesn’t 
foul with the threaded rod for the front window runner.

 

I hope this makes sense. If not, email me direct and I will give more details

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 16 June 2018 09:04
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Chris's suggestion on ka mk1 may be good, as the ka windows are very deep.

Martin

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:45 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

The Saloon uses MK3 Fiesta 3 door regulators as they’re bigger than the 5 door 
version.

I assume the 2+2 uses the same as the doors are a similar size and shape.

 

Chris G

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:49 PM

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

I need to replace the electric window regulators on my 2+2. The O/S cable has 
broken and the N/S isn’t far behind. I received an aftermarket replacement 
today which cannot be shortened in the same way as the ford one and the motor 
appear to have shorter cables so it fowls with the lower mounting for the 
quarter light channel. This item is for a 4 door Fiesta Mk3 and Courier van. 

 

I know Quantum supplied Fiesta MK3 items, but does anyone know if they were for 
3 or 5 door models?

 

Also has anyone successfully fitted window regulators from another model as Mk3 
Fiesta ones are hard to find now? Perhaps Mk4 Fiesta or Mk1 KA?

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

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Sent: 14 June 2018 21:26
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Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Thanks Jim

 

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Sent: 14 June 2018 10:30
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Find attached the copy of the review of the first 2+2. The cover shows the car 
tested, but it also had a doctored picture of a planned flapped headlight model.

Jimt

On Friday, 25 May 2018 16:30:07 UTC+1, Stephen Fairhurst wrote:

I would like to sell my 2+2 which I have owned for 14 years .

 

The Chassis No is Q2-001 which I assume was the first car of the second 
generation built by Quantum.

 

I would like to offer it to the owners club members before I put it on general 
sale I only want £800 Iam more concerned she goes to a good home.

 

Here are some details

 

Original quantum spec Ford XR2 1600 engine/gearbox running gear etc 

Colour - red

Current mileage - 58600

MOT to 29th Nov 2018

4 recent new tyres

The hood is faded and has a few blemishes on it otherwise OK

A few small cracks have appeared in the rear bumper area but nothing major

 

I also knew the previous owner who owned her for 4 years 

 

I live in Sandbach Cheshire about 2 miles from junction 17 of M6

 

I have enclosed a few pictures

 

For anymore infomation please contact me.

 

Kind Regards

 

Steve

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

I’m glad to report some progress. Refitted the original low lift clutch and 
guess what. I have a bite point above the floor, albeit low. Happy Days.

 

So I will try to find an exact replacement clutch kit. Also Geoff Ward provided 
a copy of the pedal box modification from the late build manual which is 
supposed to help too.

 

Thanks for all you help and advice, especially Andy Heaton who helped me to 
take the engine out again this afternoon.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 07 September 2018 09:45
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I should be able to look it up tonight.

 

Jim



On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 10:10:14 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

Thanks Jim

 

Any idea what part number the short arm is? 

 

I have found on with part number 88AU7515AA, are you able to identify this?

 

Chris

 

 

 

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[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 06 September 2018 22:05
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I thought i had mentioned this in a earlier reply but maybe i didn't.

 

There were 2 lengths of clutch release lever used that match up with the 2 
cable holes in the gearbox that you've seen.

As you say, the shorter level will give you more movement on the release 
bearing for the same cable movement but at the expense of a heavier pedal.

I'm not really sure why there were 2 lengths but i've always used the short 
lever.

I guess it's possible that the long lever was for the low lift bearing which 
needed less movement.

 

As has been mentioned, the lever can shear off where it is welded to the shaft, 
also the bolt can shear off where the release bearing bracket is attached 
inside the gearbox/

 

The later gearboxes had a different lever arrangment which attached to a 
separate shaft via splines and a pinch bolt.

 

Jim

 

Jim



On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 8:29:22 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

Martin

 

I hear what you are saying about the Quadrant, I want to ensure no easy fixes 
are left untried.

 

Unfortunately it is too late to make more checks as the engine/gearbox are out 
again. However I can confirm he clutch pedal was going to the floor. Actually I 
was hitting the Fiberglass bulkhead as I removed all the carpet and sound 
deadening from behind the pedal just to eliminate that concern.

 

My other thought is the gearbox has two holes for the clutch cable to pass 
through. I am starting to wonder if I can use the other hole which means tha 
cable will pull on the release arm nearer to the shaft so I get more degrees of 
turn for a given movement of the clutch pedal. I know this will lead to a 
heavier clutch pedal, I need to find something that will work. This would need 
a different, shorter, arm of some sort of mod to the existing one.

 

While the gear linkage UJ is a little stiff. I had no problem selecting gears 
before taking the engine out and I can select gears easily when the engine 
isn’t running. So definitely the clutch is dragging even when the clutch pedal 
is fully depressed.

 

Chris

 

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] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 06 September 2018 13:37
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hmm - Your thought that the thrust bearing may have been pressing (when it 
shouldn't) sounds correct. The movement of the cable will only be 10% more with 
the 55mm quadrant - Is it possible to check how much cable is pulled when the 
clutch is fully depressed, in order to get an idea whether the arm will nearly 
reach the limit (ie hit casing)?  Does the pedal hit the floor, or could the 
arm move more if the pedal was able to move more (ie bigger quadrant will help 
by 10%) if that makes sense.  Just trying to get an idea of the full 
picture... All knowledge gained before tackling the job is probably 
worthwhile. I went round in circles with replacing quadrant/cable until I 
realised the issue must be the clutch (also had the gearchange linkage in bits, 
and although that wasn't the root of the problem it was too tight)

Martin

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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 1:16 PM

S

RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Thanks Jim

 

Any idea what part number the short arm is? 

 

I have found on with part number 88AU7515AA, are you able to identify this?

 

Chris

 

 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 06 September 2018 22:05
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I thought i had mentioned this in a earlier reply but maybe i didn't.

 

There were 2 lengths of clutch release lever used that match up with the 2 
cable holes in the gearbox that you've seen.

As you say, the shorter level will give you more movement on the release 
bearing for the same cable movement but at the expense of a heavier pedal.

I'm not really sure why there were 2 lengths but i've always used the short 
lever.

I guess it's possible that the long lever was for the low lift bearing which 
needed less movement.

 

As has been mentioned, the lever can shear off where it is welded to the shaft, 
also the bolt can shear off where the release bearing bracket is attached 
inside the gearbox/

 

The later gearboxes had a different lever arrangment which attached to a 
separate shaft via splines and a pinch bolt.

 

Jim

 

Jim



On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 8:29:22 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

Martin

 

I hear what you are saying about the Quadrant, I want to ensure no easy fixes 
are left untried.

 

Unfortunately it is too late to make more checks as the engine/gearbox are out 
again. However I can confirm he clutch pedal was going to the floor. Actually I 
was hitting the Fiberglass bulkhead as I removed all the carpet and sound 
deadening from behind the pedal just to eliminate that concern.

 

My other thought is the gearbox has two holes for the clutch cable to pass 
through. I am starting to wonder if I can use the other hole which means tha 
cable will pull on the release arm nearer to the shaft so I get more degrees of 
turn for a given movement of the clutch pedal. I know this will lead to a 
heavier clutch pedal, I need to find something that will work. This would need 
a different, shorter, arm of some sort of mod to the existing one.

 

While the gear linkage UJ is a little stiff. I had no problem selecting gears 
before taking the engine out and I can select gears easily when the engine 
isn’t running. So definitely the clutch is dragging even when the clutch pedal 
is fully depressed.

 

Chris

 

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[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 06 September 2018 13:37
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hmm - Your thought that the thrust bearing may have been pressing (when it 
shouldn't) sounds correct. The movement of the cable will only be 10% more with 
the 55mm quadrant - Is it possible to check how much cable is pulled when the 
clutch is fully depressed, in order to get an idea whether the arm will nearly 
reach the limit (ie hit casing)?  Does the pedal hit the floor, or could the 
arm move more if the pedal was able to move more (ie bigger quadrant will help 
by 10%) if that makes sense.  Just trying to get an idea of the full 
picture... All knowledge gained before tackling the job is probably 
worthwhile. I went round in circles with replacing quadrant/cable until I 
realised the issue must be the clutch (also had the gearchange linkage in bits, 
and although that wasn't the root of the problem it was too tight)

Martin

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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Marin

 

No slack at the  gearbox or pedal end when depressing the clutch

 

Chris

 

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[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 05 September 2018 22:09
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris,

If I recall correctly the Escort quadrant is the 55mm black one. With an 
observer, is it possible to see if the arm starts moving when the pedal is 
depressed, or if there is a delay indicating slack being taken up. Could also 
'twang' the cable at the arm to guage if there is any slack.

Martin

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To: quan

RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Martin

 

I hear what you are saying about the Quadrant, I want to ensure no easy fixes 
are left untried.

 

Unfortunately it is too late to make more checks as the engine/gearbox are out 
again. However I can confirm he clutch pedal was going to the floor. Actually I 
was hitting the Fiberglass bulkhead as I removed all the carpet and sound 
deadening from behind the pedal just to eliminate that concern.

 

My other thought is the gearbox has two holes for the clutch cable to pass 
through. I am starting to wonder if I can use the other hole which means tha 
cable will pull on the release arm nearer to the shaft so I get more degrees of 
turn for a given movement of the clutch pedal. I know this will lead to a 
heavier clutch pedal, I need to find something that will work. This would need 
a different, shorter, arm of some sort of mod to the existing one.

 

While the gear linkage UJ is a little stiff. I had no problem selecting gears 
before taking the engine out and I can select gears easily when the engine 
isn’t running. So definitely the clutch is dragging even when the clutch pedal 
is fully depressed.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 06 September 2018 13:37
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hmm - Your thought that the thrust bearing may have been pressing (when it 
shouldn't) sounds correct. The movement of the cable will only be 10% more with 
the 55mm quadrant - Is it possible to check how much cable is pulled when the 
clutch is fully depressed, in order to get an idea whether the arm will nearly 
reach the limit (ie hit casing)?  Does the pedal hit the floor, or could the 
arm move more if the pedal was able to move more (ie bigger quadrant will help 
by 10%) if that makes sense.  Just trying to get an idea of the full 
picture... All knowledge gained before tackling the job is probably 
worthwhile. I went round in circles with replacing quadrant/cable until I 
realised the issue must be the clutch (also had the gearchange linkage in bits, 
and although that wasn't the root of the problem it was too tight)

Martin

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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Marin

 

No slack at the  gearbox or pedal end when depressing the clutch

 

Chris

 

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[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 05 September 2018 22:09
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris,

If I recall correctly the Escort quadrant is the 55mm black one. With an 
observer, is it possible to see if the arm starts moving when the pedal is 
depressed, or if there is a delay indicating slack being taken up. Could also 
'twang' the cable at the arm to guage if there is any slack.

Martin

- Original Message - 

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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:57 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Dave

 

The car already had an escort quadrant fitted. 

 

Martin

 

I refitted the pedal box and fully depressed the clutch. The is still quite a 
bit of travel on the release arm. So looks like there is an issue with the 
adjuster and or cable.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

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[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave English
Sent: 04 September 2018 18:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris

 

I had a similar problem for years, the clutch bite point being too low. My fix 
was to modify the white quadrant to increase the radius to the cable and 
increase the amount the cable moved. Eventually I fitted a quadrant from a Mk3 
Escort (81-86), Ford part number 78GB7L583AC. This was coloured black (I don't 
think that means much). This had a larger radius and solved the problem. The 
bite point is still on the low side but doesn't create an issue.

 

Regards

 

Dave English

Q2-009

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Hi Mark

 

There was something in the back of mind about this, but I don’t have access to 
a later manual. Andy kindly lent me Lady Q’s manual, but it is a First Edition. 
If you can have a look I would be very greatful.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mark
Sent: 06 September 2018 16:33
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Chris

 

For reference the later build manual that came with my dad's car suggested a 
mod to the pedal box to do with the pawl release that might help. Can't be 
undone though, as involves cutting about 9mm off the release and subsequent 
stop. 

Haven't got the details at hand, but can sort at the weekend if you want.

 

I have similar set-up and issue to that which Dave E has, where the bite point 
is very close to the floor. Which can be annoying at times, but you get used to 
it. I have messed about with the set-up and components but not achieved much.

 

Mark

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

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Marin

 

No slack at the  gearbox or pedal end when depressing the clutch

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 05 September 2018 22:09
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris,

If I recall correctly the Escort quadrant is the 55mm black one. With an 
observer, is it possible to see if the arm starts moving when the pedal is 
depressed, or if there is a delay indicating slack being taken up. Could also 
'twang' the cable at the arm to guage if there is any slack.

Martin

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:57 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Dave

 

The car already had an escort quadrant fitted. 

 

Martin

 

I refitted the pedal box and fully depressed the clutch. The is still quite a 
bit of travel on the release arm. So looks like there is an issue with the 
adjuster and or cable.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

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[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave English
Sent: 04 September 2018 18:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris

 

I had a similar problem for years, the clutch bite point being too low. My fix 
was to modify the white quadrant to increase the radius to the cable and 
increase the amount the cable moved. Eventually I fitted a quadrant from a Mk3 
Escort (81-86), Ford part number 78GB7L583AC. This was coloured black (I don't 
think that means much). This had a larger radius and solved the problem. The 
bite point is still on the low side but doesn't create an issue.

 

Regards

 

Dave English

Q2-009

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Thanks Andy

 

I’m becoming reasonably sure that there isn’t enough travel in the clutch pedal 
to properly operate the clutch release arm. I suspect that someone previously 
managed to get the lever further back meaning that the leaver was pressing on 
the thrust bearing was permenantely (like someone riding the clutch). I have 
ordered a 55mm Escort quadrant, but won’t be here for Sunday.

 

I will pull the engine back out to double check the clutch parts and the 
release arm for any defects.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of andyheaton64
Sent: 05 September 2018 21:23
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

 Chris I will be over around 2pm on Sunday after work 👌

 

Regards Andy 

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 

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Date: 05/09/2018 20:57 (GMT+00:00) 

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Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem 

 

Dave

 

The car already had an escort quadrant fitted. 

 

Martin

 

I refitted the pedal box and fully depressed the clutch. The is still quite a 
bit of travel on the release arm. So looks like there is an issue with the 
adjuster and or cable.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

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Sent: 04 September 2018 18:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris

 

I had a similar problem for years, the clutch bite point being too low. My fix 
was to modify the white quadrant to increase the radius to the cable and 
increase the amount the cable moved. Eventually I fitted a quadrant from a Mk3 
Escort (81-86), Ford part number 78GB7L583AC. This was coloured black (I don't 
think that means much). This had a larger radius and solved the problem. The 
bite point is still on the low side but doesn't create an issue.

 

Regards

 

Dave English

Q2-009

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Dave

 

The car already had an escort quadrant fitted. 

 

Martin

 

I refitted the pedal box and fully depressed the clutch. The is still quite a 
bit of travel on the release arm. So looks like there is an issue with the 
adjuster and or cable.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Dave English
Sent: 04 September 2018 18:11
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris

 

I had a similar problem for years, the clutch bite point being too low. My fix 
was to modify the white quadrant to increase the radius to the cable and 
increase the amount the cable moved. Eventually I fitted a quadrant from a Mk3 
Escort (81-86), Ford part number 78GB7L583AC. This was coloured black (I don't 
think that means much). This had a larger radius and solved the problem. The 
bite point is still on the low side but doesn't create an issue.

 

Regards

 

Dave English

Q2-009

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Thanks Chris

 

The bushes look to be in good condition.

 

Chris

 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 04 September 2018 09:57
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’ve just remembered my pedal pivot bushings have worn out and gone oval, 
creating more play in the pedal.

Could this also be a cause of your problem?

 

Chris G

 

From: Jim Hearne <mailto:j...@quantums.info>  

Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 9:22 AM

To: Quantum Owners Group <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

These are the details for manual clutch adjust modification but it's for a Mk3 
Fiesta. 

I have done it on my 2+2 but i had to modify the pedal to get it to match the 
other pedals.

 

Somewhere i have details on the Escort Quadrent mods.

 

Jim



On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 4:27:38 PM UTC+1, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: 

Hi Chris,

The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280

It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012

Martin Scott

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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

 

Chris G

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind the 
pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to lift 
the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage with 
the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person (this 
releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as it 
will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced as a 
set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had too 
much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far enough 
for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

 

I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather high 
and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. I 
bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

 

I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my issues. 
Wrong!

 

Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks 

 

Chris Fairlie

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Thanks Jum

 

Wow, as I feared, I would really need to find a car in a scrap yard and grab a 
matched set of bits.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 04 September 2018 09:22
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

These are the details for manual clutch adjust modification but it's for a Mk3 
Fiesta.

I have done it on my 2+2 but i had to modify the pedal to get it to match the 
other pedals.

 

Somewhere i have details on the Escort Quadrent mods.

 

Jim



On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 4:27:38 PM UTC+1, Susan and Martin Scott wrote:

Hi Chris,

The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280

It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012

Martin Scott

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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

 

Chris G

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind the 
pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to lift 
the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage with 
the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person (this 
releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as it 
will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced as a 
set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had too 
much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far enough 
for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

 

I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather high 
and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. I 
bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

 

I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my issues. 
Wrong!

 

Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks 

 

Chris Fairlie

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Andy 

 

Responses below.

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of andyheaton64
Sent: 03 September 2018 23:11
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Just trawling my memory bank as Q001 is a prototype. 

 

Is there any remarks I have written in the build manual from Lady Q about mods 
to the pedal box? [CF] Nothing in Lady Q’s build manual

 

Does there happen to be any history that Rob at qoc can put his hands on or do 
you have a copy of the file ? [CF] There was nothing in the Quantum file about 
the build, only sales invoices for the car and parts supplied to various owners.

 

Where pressure has been put on the clutch, the Fulcrum arm to the gearbox 
release bearing isn't fractured is it? [CF] Didn’t look like it, but I cannot 
check unless I take the engine out again and split the gearbox off which is 
looking increasingly likely.

 

I am just wondering whether the pedal box needs moving away from the bulk head 
to give more clearance? Or would that have the opposite effect ? [CF] I tried 
lengthening the cable sheath by adding a jubilee clip at the gearbox end. It 
made no difference as the clutch pawl still didn’t engage with the quadrant.

 

Does the gear linkage need adjusting ? [CF] I don’t think so as I can select 
any gear with the engine off and can get in to 3rd, 4th and 5th gears with the 
engine running, but the clutch is dragging so I get a sort of ‘automatic 
gearbox creep’

 

Did both clutches look the same ? [CF] Yes.

 

I will trawl through the history files and see if I can find any info for you 
Chris [CF] Thanks

 

P.s I can pop over Sunday afternoon when i finish work if your about ? [CF] 
That would be very much appreciated.

 

Regards Andy 

 

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > 

Date: 03/09/2018 22:27 (GMT+00:00) 

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem 

 

I bought/fitted a complete 3 part Valeo clutch kit. I have to admit I am close 
to taking thee engine/gearbox out again to investigate further. I may refit the 
old clutch kit to see if there is similar free movement.

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 03 September 2018 22:11
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

That's a good question, that I don't know the answer to as I've got the pedal 
but haven't got around to fitting it! Did you buy your cluitch as a complete 
kit? It could be a mismatch on parts as Jim has alluded to.

My clutch has a disengagement problem (having worked ok for some 20k miles) - I 
suspect the the 'fingers' on the clutch plate have lost their strength. We had 
the same problem 20 years ago on Ford Escort, and replacing the complete clutch 
cured it. We also had the same problem on a Fiat Grande Punto we bought from 
new, after only 8k milesand it was replaced under warranty. Other clutches have 
lasted in excess of 100k miles. Anyway, on my Q I replaced the quadrant with a 
larger (55mm?) diameter one and then a new cable - I then looked at what was 
happening at the clutch lever end, and it became clear the quadrant or cable 
couldn't be the issue because when the pedal was fully depressed the clutch arm 
was only about 2mm from hitting the gearbox casing. I'll have to get around to 
changing the clutch, but must get the body painting finished (weather 
permitting).

Martin

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From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 8:15 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Chris. 

 

After Jim’s post I removed a layer of carpet and some sound deadening material 
from behind the clutch pedal. That made no difference. So I managed to get the 
pedal box out tonight and the quadrant works fine on the bench, but wasn’t in 
the car. Is it a white 50mm quadrant part number 88AB7L353AA made in 1995 so 
someone changed it out well after the car was built. Sill cannot understand why 
it won’t work now.

 

Martin

 

This is an interesting thought, does the manual adjust pedal need a specific 
quadrant?

 

Regards

 

Chris 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroup

RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

I bought/fitted a complete 3 part Valeo clutch kit. I have to admit I am close 
to taking thee engine/gearbox out again to investigate further. I may refit the 
old clutch kit to see if there is similar free movement.

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 03 September 2018 22:11
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

That's a good question, that I don't know the answer to as I've got the pedal 
but haven't got around to fitting it! Did you buy your cluitch as a complete 
kit? It could be a mismatch on parts as Jim has alluded to.

My clutch has a disengagement problem (having worked ok for some 20k miles) - I 
suspect the the 'fingers' on the clutch plate have lost their strength. We had 
the same problem 20 years ago on Ford Escort, and replacing the complete clutch 
cured it. We also had the same problem on a Fiat Grande Punto we bought from 
new, after only 8k milesand it was replaced under warranty. Other clutches have 
lasted in excess of 100k miles. Anyway, on my Q I replaced the quadrant with a 
larger (55mm?) diameter one and then a new cable - I then looked at what was 
happening at the clutch lever end, and it became clear the quadrant or cable 
couldn't be the issue because when the pedal was fully depressed the clutch arm 
was only about 2mm from hitting the gearbox casing. I'll have to get around to 
changing the clutch, but must get the body painting finished (weather 
permitting).

Martin

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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 8:15 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Chris. 

 

After Jim’s post I removed a layer of carpet and some sound deadening material 
from behind the clutch pedal. That made no difference. So I managed to get the 
pedal box out tonight and the quadrant works fine on the bench, but wasn’t in 
the car. Is it a white 50mm quadrant part number 88AB7L353AA made in 1995 so 
someone changed it out well after the car was built. Sill cannot understand why 
it won’t work now.

 

Martin

 

This is an interesting thought, does the manual adjust pedal need a specific 
quadrant?

 

Regards

 

Chris 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 03 September 2018 16:28
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris,

The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280

It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012

Martin Scott

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

 

Chris G

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind the 
pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to lift 
the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage with 
the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person (this 
releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as it 
will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

You can't mix low lift a

RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Another question, is it normal that the clutch release arm has 25mm of free 
movement before the thrust bearing touches the back of the splines?

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 03 September 2018 20:16
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Chris. 

 

After Jim’s post I removed a layer of carpet and some sound deadening material 
from behind the clutch pedal. That made no difference. So I managed to get the 
pedal box out tonight and the quadrant works fine on the bench, but wasn’t in 
the car. Is it a white 50mm quadrant part number 88AB7L353AA made in 1995 so 
someone changed it out well after the car was built. Sill cannot understand why 
it won’t work now.

 

Martin

 

This is an interesting thought, does the manual adjust pedal need a specific 
quadrant?

 

Regards

 

Chris 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 03 September 2018 16:28
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris,

The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280

It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012

Martin Scott

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

 

Chris G

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind the 
pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to lift 
the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage with 
the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person (this 
releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as it 
will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced as a 
set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had too 
much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far enough 
for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

 

I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather high 
and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. I 
bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

 

I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my issues. 
Wrong!

 

Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks 

 

Chris Fairlie

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

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Thanks Chris. 

 

After Jim’s post I removed a layer of carpet and some sound deadening material 
from behind the clutch pedal. That made no difference. So I managed to get the 
pedal box out tonight and the quadrant works fine on the bench, but wasn’t in 
the car. Is it a white 50mm quadrant part number 88AB7L353AA made in 1995 so 
someone changed it out well after the car was built. Sill cannot understand why 
it won’t work now.

 

Martin

 

This is an interesting thought, does the manual adjust pedal need a specific 
quadrant?

 

Regards

 

Chris 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 03 September 2018 16:28
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris,

The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280

It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012

Martin Scott

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From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

 

Chris G

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind the 
pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to lift 
the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage with 
the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

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Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person (this 
releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as it 
will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced as a 
set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had too 
much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far enough 
for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

 

I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather high 
and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. I 
bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

 

I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my issues. 
Wrong!

 

Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks 

 

Chris Fairlie

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind the 
pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to lift 
the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage with 
the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person (this 
releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as it 
will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced as a 
set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had too 
much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far enough 
for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

 

I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather high 
and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. I 
bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

 

I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my issues. 
Wrong!

 

Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks 

 

Chris Fairlie

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[Quantum Owners] Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

 

I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather high 
and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. I 
bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

 

I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my issues. 
Wrong!

 

Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks 

 

Chris Fairlie

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Electric door lock tantrums

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Julian

 

I’m not too familiar with H4/MK3 Fiesta electric, but I have had issues with 
central locking. 

 

It sounds like the contacts in one of the motor/lock mechanisms have got 
faulty. Given that you have disconnected the driver’s side mechanism, perhaps 
there is a fault with the passenger side mechanism. You can lock/unlock many 
cars at either front door lock. When you operate the key in the lock it 
activates some contact that apply voltage to the other locks. It sounds like 
the contacts in one of your locks are working correctly.  So I’d try 
disconnecting the passenger side and reconnecting the driver’s side lock. If 
that doesn’t solve the issue I’d suspect the control relay.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Julian Coleman
Sent: 30 July 2018 16:03
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Electric door lock tantrums

 

Hi

 

My H4 has developed a problem which I cannot immediately fathom. The car has 
electric windows from the original donor but it also has an aftermarket 
security system. However I suspect the latter is not responsible as the problem 
seems entirely independent of the security system status.

 

Basically the locking just keeps locking and unlocking, stopping occasionally. 
It does this when static or on the move. It appears to have no effect on any 
other system - the alarm which triggers the locks is not itself being triggered 
to set/unset.

 

I took the door card off the driver's door wondering if I had accidentally 
unhitched something. I unplugged the cabling to the mechanism and the fault 
remains as it was, constantly locking and unlocking but sometimes stopping for 
a while. So clearly the fault is not in the driver's door lock module. 

 

I've left the car without power for now - it took me a while to figure out how 
to set things so I could still get in after I'd closed everything without power 
connected! But that appears to be OK.

 

Anyway, if anyone knows what might be causing this, I'd appreciate any words of 
wisdom.

 

Regards

 


Julian Coleman
City Audio Services



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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Thanks Jim

 

My build manual is a First Edition one so it doesn’t cover fitting electric 
windows. However I found your diagram explaining how to shorten the track on 
the QOC  web site. So now I need to find MK3 or Mk4 3 door ideally,  but will 
buy 4 door item if necessary.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 15 June 2018 20:26
To: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

They are from the 2 door Mk3 Fiesta.
The 4 door ones can be used but the motor ends up in a different place on the 
door due to the shorter cables as you have found.
There are also 2 types used on the Mk3 Fiesta, the manual only describes how to 
modify the early sort but both can be modified to fit the 2+2.
You need to shorten the vertical section to fit inside the door by removing the 
fitting at the bottom, shortening it and then refitting the bottom section.
Then because you have shortened the channel you need to take up the slack in 
the cable by fitting a spacer in the outer of the cable.
Post a couple of pictures, including a closeup of the end and i can describe 
what you need to do.
Mk4 Fiesta is very similar the the later Mk3 Fiesta so should be able to be 
modified in the same way.

Jim




On 15/06/2018 18:49, 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group wrote:

I need to replace the electric window regulators on my 2+2. The O/S cable has 
broken and the N/S isn’t far behind. I received an aftermarket replacement 
today which cannot be shortened in the same way as the ford one and the motor 
appear to have shorter cables so it fowls with the lower mounting for the 
quarter light channel. This item is for a 4 door Fiesta Mk3 and Courier van. 

 

I know Quantum supplied Fiesta MK3 items, but does anyone know if they were for 
3 or 5 door models?

 

Also has anyone successfully fitted window regulators from another model as Mk3 
Fiesta ones are hard to find now? Perhaps Mk4 Fiesta or Mk1 KA?

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 21:26
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Thanks Jim

 

From: 'Jim Turner' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 14 June 2018 10:30
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Find attached the copy of the review of the first 2+2. The cover shows the car 
tested, but it also had a doctored picture of a planned flapped headlight model.

Jimt

On Friday, 25 May 2018 16:30:07 UTC+1, Stephen Fairhurst wrote:

I would like to sell my 2+2 which I have owned for 14 years .

 

The Chassis No is Q2-001 which I assume was the first car of the second 
generation built by Quantum.

 

I would like to offer it to the owners club members before I put it on general 
sale I only want £800 Iam more concerned she goes to a good home.

 

Here are some details

 

Original quantum spec Ford XR2 1600 engine/gearbox running gear etc 

Colour - red

Current mileage - 58600

MOT to 29th Nov 2018

4 recent new tyres

The hood is faded and has a few blemishes on it otherwise OK

A few small cracks have appeared in the rear bumper area but nothing major

 

I also knew the previous owner who owned her for 4 years 

 

I live in Sandbach Cheshire about 2 miles from junction 17 of M6

 

I have enclosed a few pictures

 

For anymore infomation please contact me.

 

Kind Regards

 

Steve

 

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[Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

I need to replace the electric window regulators on my 2+2. The O/S cable has 
broken and the N/S isn’t far behind. I received an aftermarket replacement 
today which cannot be shortened in the same way as the ford one and the motor 
appear to have shorter cables so it fowls with the lower mounting for the 
quarter light channel. This item is for a 4 door Fiesta Mk3 and Courier van. 

 

I know Quantum supplied Fiesta MK3 items, but does anyone know if they were for 
3 or 5 door models?

 

Also has anyone successfully fitted window regulators from another model as Mk3 
Fiesta ones are hard to find now? Perhaps Mk4 Fiesta or Mk1 KA?

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 21:26
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Thanks Jim

 

From: 'Jim Turner' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 10:30
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Find attached the copy of the review of the first 2+2. The cover shows the car 
tested, but it also had a doctored picture of a planned flapped headlight model.

Jimt

On Friday, 25 May 2018 16:30:07 UTC+1, Stephen Fairhurst wrote:

I would like to sell my 2+2 which I have owned for 14 years .

 

The Chassis No is Q2-001 which I assume was the first car of the second 
generation built by Quantum.

 

I would like to offer it to the owners club members before I put it on general 
sale I only want £800 Iam more concerned she goes to a good home.

 

Here are some details

 

Original quantum spec Ford XR2 1600 engine/gearbox running gear etc 

Colour - red

Current mileage - 58600

MOT to 29th Nov 2018

4 recent new tyres

The hood is faded and has a few blemishes on it otherwise OK

A few small cracks have appeared in the rear bumper area but nothing major

 

I also knew the previous owner who owned her for 4 years 

 

I live in Sandbach Cheshire about 2 miles from junction 17 of M6

 

I have enclosed a few pictures

 

For anymore infomation please contact me.

 

Kind Regards

 

Steve

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Thanks Jim

 

From: 'Jim Turner' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 10:30
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Find attached the copy of the review of the first 2+2. The cover shows the car 
tested, but it also had a doctored picture of a planned flapped headlight model.

Jimt

On Friday, 25 May 2018 16:30:07 UTC+1, Stephen Fairhurst wrote:

I would like to sell my 2+2 which I have owned for 14 years .

 

The Chassis No is Q2-001 which I assume was the first car of the second 
generation built by Quantum.

 

I would like to offer it to the owners club members before I put it on general 
sale I only want £800 Iam more concerned she goes to a good home.

 

Here are some details

 

Original quantum spec Ford XR2 1600 engine/gearbox running gear etc 

Colour - red

Current mileage - 58600

MOT to 29th Nov 2018

4 recent new tyres

The hood is faded and has a few blemishes on it otherwise OK

A few small cracks have appeared in the rear bumper area but nothing major

 

I also knew the previous owner who owned her for 4 years 

 

I live in Sandbach Cheshire about 2 miles from junction 17 of M6

 

I have enclosed a few pictures

 

For anymore infomation please contact me.

 

Kind Regards

 

Steve

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Jim

 

I don’t know anything of the early history of my car, but Rob Hancock has 
confirmed it is indeed the first 2+2.

 

Dave

 

I would love to gather any information on the history of my car. I have MOT 
certificates from 1996 and know the two owners from 2000 to now, but nothing 
earlier. I thought I had an old kit car magazine with an article on the 2+2 
launch with a red round headlight model, but cannot find it now.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: 'Jim Turner' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 11 June 2018 18:36
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Hi All

I thought that the first 2+2 was a red round headlight version which was tested 
by various magazines. I believe it was scrapped by Quantum because it had been 
badly damaged by the magazine's journalists.

This would make Q2-002 the oldest 2+2. A round headlight version owned by my 
son James, previously owned by me.

Jimt 

On Friday, 25 May 2018 16:30:07 UTC+1, Stephen Fairhurst wrote:

I would like to sell my 2+2 which I have owned for 14 years .

 

The Chassis No is Q2-001 which I assume was the first car of the second 
generation built by Quantum.

 

I would like to offer it to the owners club members before I put it on general 
sale I only want £800 Iam more concerned she goes to a good home.

 

Here are some details

 

Original quantum spec Ford XR2 1600 engine/gearbox running gear etc 

Colour - red

Current mileage - 58600

MOT to 29th Nov 2018

4 recent new tyres

The hood is faded and has a few blemishes on it otherwise OK

A few small cracks have appeared in the rear bumper area but nothing major

 

I also knew the previous owner who owned her for 4 years 

 

I live in Sandbach Cheshire about 2 miles from junction 17 of M6

 

I have enclosed a few pictures

 

For anymore infomation please contact me.

 

Kind Regards

 

Steve

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

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Hi Andy

 

Yes drives well, but needs some TLC on the appearance.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of andyheaton64
Sent: 08 June 2018 21:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Great news Chris tidy example ? 

Does it need much work ?

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 

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Date: 08/06/2018 19:37 (GMT+00:00) 

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Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001 

 

Hi All

Q2-001 is now safely tucked up in my garage. 

Chris

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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

It a relief the car is in good hands!
On the subject of demo strator cars: is the white 2+2 demonstrator car still 
around?

Enjoy your trip in France!

Rolf

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Ford Central locking motor identification

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Martin

Yes any information appreciated. When I unlock the o/s it unlocks the n/s door, 
but when I lock the o/s door it doesn't lock the n/s door. N/S side lock works 
correctly.

I was thinking this is likely to be a faulty contact in the o/s actuator, but 
could equally be a wiring fault.

Chris

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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Ford Central locking motor identification

It doesn't look like you have, and it's in the usual format of Ford FINIS. 
Looking at the diagram which came up with the title "Central Locking/Tailgate 
Release FORD Escort/Orion 1986-1990" I think it includes the central door 
locking AND tailgate release. As you say there are 5 wires on the front door 
actuators. I think I used escort releases, but for some reason (probably 
because I got them from the scrappy) I didn't include them in my extensive 
parts list. I think I have a note of the wire functions for the actuators in my 
'wiring book' if it's any use to you I can dig out the info.
Martin

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To: 
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Ford Central locking motor identification


Thanks for the rapid response Martin. The Item I'm trying to replace has 5 
wires which I assumed would be a front door actuator with switch wires as 
well as wires to operate the motor. Generally tailgate actuators are slaves 
and only have 3 wires to operate the motor.

Is it possible I have misread the code?

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Sent: 08 June 2018 20:11
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Ford Central locking motor identification

A quick search comes up with this

Central Locking/Tailgate Release FORD Escort/Orion 1986-1990 Martin




- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:04 PM
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Ford Central locking motor identification


Is anyone able to identify what model this central locking motor was fitted?

There isn't a ford design number, but there is a paper label stuck to it
with the Ford logo and 5028 190.

Chris


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Great news, glad to see common sense prevails Cheers Mark

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Ford Central locking motor identification

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Thanks for the rapid response Martin. The Item I'm trying to replace has 5 
wires which I assumed would be a front door actuator with switch wires as well 
as wires to operate the motor. Generally tailgate actuators are slaves and only 
have 3 wires to operate the motor.

Is it possible I have misread the code?

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Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 08 June 2018 20:11
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Ford Central locking motor identification

A quick search comes up with this

Central Locking/Tailgate Release FORD Escort/Orion 1986-1990 Martin




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To: 
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:04 PM
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Ford Central locking motor identification


Is anyone able to identify what model this central locking motor was fitted?

There isn't a ford design number, but there is a paper label stuck to it 
with the Ford logo and 5028 190.

Chris


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Great news, glad to see common sense prevails Cheers Mark

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RE: [Quantum Owners] For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

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Hi All

Q2-001 is now safely tucked up in my garage. 

Chris

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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

It a relief the car is in good hands!
On the subject of demo strator cars: is the white 2+2 demonstrator car still 
around?

Enjoy your trip in France!

Rolf

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RE: [Quantum Owners] xtreme rear bushes?

[Chris Fairlie]

Ian

 

I think I had some of them too, as I nearly broke my vice trying to press them 
in. 

 

Chris

 

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Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: Monday, 23 May, 2016 8:37 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] xtreme rear bushes?

 

Have I go the old style bushes then? Standard metalastic rubber/metal ones. 

On Sunday, 22 May 2016, Chris Young mailto:chris.young...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Chris,

 

good to hear from you!

 

what you say seems to be what I have read elsewhere too.

 

I'm calling a company someone on locostbuilders suggested tomorrow, see what 
they reckon, I'll give Mark B at Quantum a call and see if I can get hold of 
him too.  something that fits in the gap would do for now!

 

cheers for thinking back,

 

Chris

 

 

 

On Sun, 22 May 2016 at 19:41 Chris Fairlie  > wrote:

Chris

 

As far as I remember they were a Quantum specific item. Rather naff grey hard 
plastic top hat shaped items. I also think I ended turning up some nylon 
spacers because when the bushes were fitted in to the arm there was fore/aft 
play in the suspension arm.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

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[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Chris Young
Sent: Friday, 20 May, 2016 11:16 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] xtreme rear bushes?

 



this is what the bush looks like once I cut the bolts to get it out (rusted to 
the inner tube)

 

anyone know what type of bush it is?

 

cheers, Chris

On Thu, 19 May 2016 at 11:33 Chris Young  > wrote:

cool, I hope he can get onto pushing the cars again, I really like the xtreme, 
at some point I'd love to build another one, maybe a more modern v8 and wider 
rear tyres :)  (oh if i had the money never mind the time!)

 

 

 

On Thu, 19 May 2016 at 11:25 Steve Kodź  > wrote:

I think he is finally getting back on top of things after relocating to Dorset. 
 He is getting a rolling road finalised, so should be able to offer tuning 
services again soon.

Regards,
Steve


h4-turbo.co.uk <http://h4-turbo.co.uk>  
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On 19/05/16 11:17, Chris Young wrote:

thanks Steve, was trying to save the man some hassle ! 

 

I'll ping him an email now, it is normally me that sends that email address 
round!

 

 

 

On Thu, 19 May 2016 at 11:16 Steve Kodź  > wrote:

Chris,
Contact Mark Burley, i...@quantumcars.eu 
 .  He might take a couple 
of days to respond, but should be able to help.

Regards,
Steve


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On 19/05/16 10:25, Chris Young wrote:

Hi, 

 

does anyone by chance know what bushes are used for the rear lowest bush on the 
wishbones?  nearest the bottom of the brake drum?

 

I see from the manual that there are 2 in there, but only quantum part numbers 
listed.

 

many thanks, 

 

Chris

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fiesta Parts

[Chris Fairlie]

Jon

 

I have a gearbox free to a QOC home. I can’t remember where it came from, but 
I’m in Waterlooville so not too far if you want come and have a look if you 
think you can make use of it.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, 12 February, 2016 1:50 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fiesta Parts

 

Hi Eddie I want a good gearbox but sadly 150 miles means you are too far away 
from me.

I also like the thought of a 2litre CVH too.

 

On Thursday, 11 February 2016, 22:13, Edward Ruskin mailto:eruski...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi John
Just north of Bristol in Chippimg Sodbury



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[Quantum Owners] A possibel Southern Meet on 6th September

[Chris Fairlie]

As some of you know, I spend most Sundays Volunteering at a preserved 
waterworks near Winchester. We have an openday on 6th September and QOC have 
been invited to display their cars at the Openday. It is a fascinating site 
with lots to see for all the family.

 

For more information have a look at the following link

 

http://www.twyfordwaterworks.co.uk/Events-at-Twyford-Waterworks.aspx#84

 

No need to book in advance, but it would be good if you can advise me that you 
plan to attend.

 

Thanks

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Paschal Carroll
Sent: 28 June 2015 19:35
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Breaking 2+2 - update

 

Yes. The front screen and rubber are from Mk 2 Fiesta. Hopefully the faulty 
laying up on your tub was a one off as mine is quite close to it at number 313 


On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:56:54 PM UTC+1, barnacle wrote:

I believe that I have discovered why my 2+2 has been unable to handle the power 
of the Fiat engine, and was giving sudden and unpleasant steering lurches when 
the torque got too high...

While removing the rear suspension today (the car will be scrapped on Monday) I 
discovered that the fibreglass was seriously internally delaminated around the 
rear suspension pickup points. Where it should have been a solid mass of 
fibreglass and resin, while the interior of the layup and the gelcoat were both 
apparently fine, the interior layers - about five millimetres thickness - was 
dry and loose, as if it had never been exposed to resin.

Not a good condition, and obviously if one part of the tub has that issue, it's 
reasonable to expect that other parts of the tub would also suffer from it. The 
strength of the tub is obviously badly affected by this - though I'm not in a 
position to quantify this - and worst of all, there is no immediately visible 
cue that this situation exists. I'm not even sure how you would test for it - 
ultrasonic examination, perhaps?

It does convince me that scrapping this tub - number 359 - was the right thing 
to to.

On a more cheerful note,Dean collected a quantity of parts today - thanks Dean 
- and I'm happy that at least some of the car is going to get another quantum 
on the road!

I have salvaged the windscreen and rubber - can anyone confirm that this is a 
Fiesta Mk2 part?

Neil

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: MTX75 Gearbox into a 2+2

[Chris Fairlie]

Jim

Good point

Chris

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [quantumowners@googlegroups.com] on behalf 
of Jim Hearne [j...@quantums.info]
Sent: 10 October 2013 12:13
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: MTX75 Gearbox into a 2+2

Focus’s were all blacktop zetecs (it was introduced in them i think), and all 
Black top Zetec had the 2 part sump.

Jim


From: Chris Fairlie<mailto:chris.fair...@btconnect.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:08 PM
To: quantumown...@googlegroups..com<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: MTX75 Gearbox into a 2+2

Keith

Have you by any chance got a later black top Zetec engine with a part ally part 
steel sump?

If yes then part of the sump webbing needs to be trimmed to get the starter in. 
The Silver Top engine is much easier to fit.

Chris Fairlie

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [quantumowners@googlegroups.com] on behalf 
of Keith Joseph [ksj.mob...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 October 2013 11:51
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: MTX75 Gearbox into a 2+2

Hi Jim,

I thought that as well originally, however now I have everything in bits on my 
garage floor, I find that the webbing / framework at the bottom of the Zetec 
engine does not allow me to get the starter motor into the bell housing on the 
original gearbox. Also, on the other side, similar webbing clashes with the 
driveshaft.

It is possible to remove the lower part of the engine block but I really don't 
want to start splitting the engine up and start working on the internals - This 
is one of the reasons I'm swapping the CVH out as I don't want to re-build it 
again.

Hence why I'm now confronted with having to put the MTX75 box in.

Any advice?

Cheers,

Keith


On Thursday, 10 October 2013 11:32:30 UTC+1, Keith Joseph wrote:
Hi,

Has anyone ever fitted an MTX75 gearbox into a 2+2?

If so, does anyone have any photo's / dimensions etc as to how and where the 
chassis needs modifying and how / where the mounts fit / what mounts to use?

I'm trying to fit a 2.0L Zetec out of a Mk1 Focus into my 2+2, originally 
thinking that I just needed to swap the engine, but it wont fit on the original 
gearbox, which is a pain. As a result, I've got no reference points as to where 
the engine and box need to be mounted onto the Quantum chassis.

This is turning out to be an even bigger job than I imagined!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Keith
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: MTX75 Gearbox into a 2+2

[Chris Fairlie]

Keith

Have you by any chance got a later black top Zetec engine with a part ally part 
steel sump?

If yes then part of the sump webbing needs to be trimmed to get the starter in. 
The Silver Top engine is much easier to fit.

Chris Fairlie

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [quantumowners@googlegroups.com] on behalf 
of Keith Joseph [ksj.mob...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 October 2013 11:51
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: MTX75 Gearbox into a 2+2

Hi Jim,

I thought that as well originally, however now I have everything in bits on my 
garage floor, I find that the webbing / framework at the bottom of the Zetec 
engine does not allow me to get the starter motor into the bell housing on the 
original gearbox. Also, on the other side, similar webbing clashes with the 
driveshaft.

It is possible to remove the lower part of the engine block but I really don't 
want to start splitting the engine up and start working on the internals - This 
is one of the reasons I'm swapping the CVH out as I don't want to re-build it 
again.

Hence why I'm now confronted with having to put the MTX75 box in.

Any advice?

Cheers,

Keith


On Thursday, 10 October 2013 11:32:30 UTC+1, Keith Joseph wrote:
Hi,

Has anyone ever fitted an MTX75 gearbox into a 2+2?

If so, does anyone have any photo's / dimensions etc as to how and where the 
chassis needs modifying and how / where the mounts fit / what mounts to use?

I'm trying to fit a 2.0L Zetec out of a Mk1 Focus into my 2+2, originally 
thinking that I just needed to swap the engine, but it wont fit on the original 
gearbox, which is a pain. As a result, I've got no reference points as to where 
the engine and box need to be mounted onto the Quantum chassis.

This is turning out to be an even bigger job than I imagined!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Keith

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RE: [Quantum Owners] South West Brewery Tour

[Chris Fairlie]

Paul

I'll be there and want to join for lunch first.

Chris

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Sent: 05 October 2013 11:05
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] South West Brewery Tour

Hi folks

Quick note to let you know about the South West area meet. We are having a tour 
of the Wadwoth Brewery in Devizes (SN10) Wiltshire. There are limited spaces 
for a tour on Saturday 19/10/13 at 2 pm. It is £10 for the tour which includes 
tasting. The tour should include seeing the sign writing, shire horses and 
sometimes the cooper. If you want some luch before hand there is a special 
lunch menu (£6.95) for tour members at the local pub 2 doors down from the 
brewery.

If you would like to come please contact Paul before 12/10/13. There are flyers 
posted on the QOC web site which has more details about the tour and the lunch 
menu if you want to look.

Hope to see some of you there

Paul Fennings- Treasurer

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: New soft top

[Chris Fairlie]

I had a hood made for my 2+2 by Kritch Trimming in Bristol. It looked great
and they should still have the patterns they made for mine.

 

http://www.krychtrimming.co.uk/main.html

 

Pictures at Stoneleigh

 

http://s1116.beta.photobucket.com/user/fairliec/media/22forsale.jpg.html

 

Chris

 

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On Behalf Of Arnie Fuller
Sent: 17 March 2013 21:08
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: New soft top

 

Sounds good to me.
If we could find a supplier who would be willing to make a few I would be
interested in a group buy (If there's enough people).

 



On Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:18:53 PM UTC, Arnie Fuller wrote:

The soft top on one of the Quantum 2+2s is on its last legs, so I'm looking
to replace it.
Had a look through the old topics but couldn't find anything from the last
year or two (so i'm unsure if the information is still correct)

 

Does anyone have a spare/unused soft top, contacts that can sell a soft top
or information on where I can purchase one from?
I've been looking for a while but have had no luck.

Currently in the process of stripping out the interior and replacing, but
would want to get the roof more water tight (lots of holes at the moment)
before I put down any soundproofing, carpet and a new set of seats.

 

 

I was thinking about purchasing the fabric and just taking apart the old
roof to create my own, but it looks a little advanced for me at the moment
and I'm struggling to find suitable material.

 

If anyone had any information I would forever be in their debt.

Thank you,
Arnie

 

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] H4s

[Chris Fairlie]

Chris

 

As far as I remember the H4s was just that. New shape for front and rear
bumpers attached to a standard H4 that the Sampson's bought second hand.  I
also believe none were built because there was never sufficient interest for
John Sampson to invest in getting a new H4 mould made.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

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On Behalf Of Chris Reid
Sent: 26 December 2012 23:11
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] H4s

 


thanks Eddie. It's worth a thought (still not a 'proper one' though is it?
hehehe

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From: Eddie 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] H4s
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 26 December, 2012, 23:08

Hi Chris
Not aware of any H4s being built. However, Mark Burley does have the moulds
for the front and back ends. It would be possible to convert a normal H4
into one if you order the body sections from Mark.
Hope this helps.
Eddie

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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Fuel Tank Capacity

[Chris Fairlie]

>From memory it is 36 litres or just under 8 gallons.

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Fuel Tank Capacity

Hi. Does anyone know the capacity of a 2+2's fuel tank? Thanks. 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Clutch adjustment

[Chris Fairlie]

QSC Stourbridge recommended replacing the MK2 Fiesta quadrant with a MK3
Escort quadrant because the channel is shallower. Effectively this makes the
cable shorter.

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 27 May 2012 20:48
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Clutch adjustment

When you were removing and refitting the cable were you holding the pedal up
against the stop to release the pawl ?
When you refit the cable you need to also hold it against the stop and pull
the quadrant right round to reset it.

The tab shouldn't need modifiying on a Quantum but some of the build manuals
do mention putting spacing washers behind the pedal box and making sure you
don't have thick carpet and soundproofing behind the clutch pedal as it can
stop the auto adjust working if the pedal hits the bulkhead.

Jim


On 27/05/2012 20:10, Dave C wrote:
> Don't know if this is of any use to anyone or if anyone would care to
> comment but have had some clutch pedal issues recently with the bite
> point being very low and possibly not fully disengagingwere
> advised to change the auto adjust quadrant and pawl and were given a
> new oneon removing the pedal box, couldn't find anything wrong
> with the old one but changed it anyway but did notice that the cable
> radius in the quadrant was smaller.anyway, fitted the new one and
> tested it without noticing much difference but when out the following
> day, new adjuster failed completely and clutch wouldn't disengage at
> allkept having to fiddle with the adjuster to get it to stay in.
> Decided to investigate a bit more with a view to trying to bodge some
> kind of manual adjustment but on re-fitting the old bits and having a
> look at what was going on decided it was worth trying to change the
> point where the auto adjust operates by filing the tab that knocks out
> the pawl as it looked like it had already been hacked previously.
> Took a couple of mm off the tab and stop which effectivly means the
> pedal comes up a bit higher (now to the same height as the brake
> pedal)net result when re-fitted is that the bite point is now a
> bit higher than it was which was the object of the exercise and gears
> seem to engage better, presumably because the clutch is now fully
> disengaging.
> Does anyone have any commentsis it normal or necessary to modify
> the adjustment point tab
>

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Quantum spare need a new home

[Chris Fairlie]

Bill

 

The MAFs and 1 of the coil packs have gone, but I will put you down for the
Rocker cover (if I have room), rocker gasket and 2 of the Coil Packs.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of bill green
Sent: 03 May 2012 17:21
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Quantum spare need a new home

 

Hi Chris would it be possible to have the zetec bits if you will have room
for them all, ie the coil packs, maf sensors, rocker tops and the gasket, I
will be most happy to make a donation to QMOPS.
   Regards Bill
cvh h4 shortly being upgraded to 1.8 zetec
 

  _  

From: soni...@hotmail.com
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Quantum spare need a new home
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 19:25:27 +0100

Hi Chris
 
It is possible to have the CVH starter motor and a set of sierra rear lights
and i'm happy to make a donation to QMOPS
 
Cheers
 
Chris Harker
 

  _  

From: chris.fair...@btconnect.com
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Quantum spare need a new home
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 07:22:17 +0100

Hi there

 

Only a few days to Stoneleigh, let's hope the weather improves soon!

 

I've just been tidying up my garage and found various spares for my old Qs.

Send me a private email if you want any of the items?

 

CVH Rocker Cover Gasket

CVH 1.6 Ignition Coil

Mk2 Fiesta Engine/Gearbox cradle

CVH Starter Motor

Fiesta 1.6 CVH Radiator (only fit for exchange or repair)

Mk2 CVH engine mount

Mk 2 Fiesta  XR2 Gearbox 

 

Sierra Smoked Rear lights O/S x 2

Sierra Smoked Rear lights N/S x 3

 

Sierra Heater Fan unit

Sierra Column switches??

Standard Xtreme Wing Mirrors

Xtreme complete Head lamp unit

Xtreme Head lamp casing minus glass and reflector

Sierra Haynes Manual Covers 4 cylinder Petrol models with Pinto, CVH and
Zetec models (includes strip down and rebuild of type 9 gearbox)

Sierra Haynes Manual Covers 4 cylinder Petrol models with Pinto, CVH and
Zetec models

 

Universal Choke Cable

Zetec Silver Top Rocker Cover Gasket

Zetec Silver Top Rocker Cover x 2

Zetec  MAF 93BB12B579BA x 2

Zetec Coil Packs and HT Leads x 3

Mk3  Fiesta 1.6 Si gearbox

Escort Mk5? Manual 1990 to 1997 Petrol HCS, CVH and Zetec engines
covered.(doesn't cover RS2000, Cosworth and Diesel models)

Mondeo 1993 to 2000 Covers 1.6, 1.8 & 2.0 Zetec plus 2.5 V6 Petrol engines.

 

I cannot guarantee any of these items are in working order so all I will
suggest that people make a donation to QMOPS or charity.

 

I plan to be at Stoneleigh from Sunday afternoon through to Monday, so I
will bring what I can with me.

 

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: 30 April 2012 22:28
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: STONELEIGH KIT SHOW - not long now

 

M, Oatcakes...

 

I'll be there on Sunday Vince and happy to help out any way I can. 

 

Not sure about Monday yet, I depends on the weather gods...

 

Ian

Sent from my iPad


On 30 Apr 2012, at 21:35, "Jan"  wrote:

Hi

 

Oatcakes are ordered for the potteries breakfast on Sunday and Monday.

 

Jan

- Original Message - 

From: Paschal Carroll   

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:09 PM

Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: STONELEIGH KIT SHOW - not long now

 

 

Hi Vince

The IKCC will be providing the sausages as usual. Nuala will be getting the
usual 300 on Friday and will also bring over her relish. We will available
to help out whenever we're needed.

 

Paschal and Nuala 

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[Quantum Owners] Quantum spare need a new home

[Chris Fairlie]

Hi there

 

Only a few days to Stoneleigh, let's hope the weather improves soon!

 

I've just been tidying up my garage and found various spares for my old Qs.

Send me a private email if you want any of the items?

 

CVH Rocker Cover Gasket

CVH 1.6 Ignition Coil

Mk2 Fiesta Engine/Gearbox cradle

CVH Starter Motor

Fiesta 1.6 CVH Radiator (only fit for exchange or repair)

Mk2 CVH engine mount

Mk 2 Fiesta  XR2 Gearbox 

 

Sierra Smoked Rear lights O/S x 2

Sierra Smoked Rear lights N/S x 3

 

Sierra Heater Fan unit

Sierra Column switches??

Standard Xtreme Wing Mirrors

Xtreme complete Head lamp unit

Xtreme Head lamp casing minus glass and reflector

Sierra Haynes Manual Covers 4 cylinder Petrol models with Pinto, CVH and
Zetec models (includes strip down and rebuild of type 9 gearbox)

Sierra Haynes Manual Covers 4 cylinder Petrol models with Pinto, CVH and
Zetec models

 

Universal Choke Cable

Zetec Silver Top Rocker Cover Gasket

Zetec Silver Top Rocker Cover x 2

Zetec  MAF 93BB12B579BA x 2

Zetec Coil Packs and HT Leads x 3

Mk3  Fiesta 1.6 Si gearbox

Escort Mk5? Manual 1990 to 1997 Petrol HCS, CVH and Zetec engines
covered.(doesn't cover RS2000, Cosworth and Diesel models)

Mondeo 1993 to 2000 Covers 1.6, 1.8 & 2.0 Zetec plus 2.5 V6 Petrol engines.

 

I cannot guarantee any of these items are in working order so all I will
suggest that people make a donation to QMOPS or charity.

 

I plan to be at Stoneleigh from Sunday afternoon through to Monday, so I
will bring what I can with me.

 

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: 30 April 2012 22:28
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: STONELEIGH KIT SHOW - not long now

 

M, Oatcakes...

 

I'll be there on Sunday Vince and happy to help out any way I can. 

 

Not sure about Monday yet, I depends on the weather gods...

 

Ian

Sent from my iPad


On 30 Apr 2012, at 21:35, "Jan"  wrote:

Hi

 

Oatcakes are ordered for the potteries breakfast on Sunday and Monday.

 

Jan

- Original Message - 

From: Paschal Carroll   

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:09 PM

Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: STONELEIGH KIT SHOW - not long now

 

 

Hi Vince

The IKCC will be providing the sausages as usual. Nuala will be getting the
usual 300 on Friday and will also bring over her relish. We will available
to help out whenever we're needed.

 

Paschal and Nuala 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh, best day to go?

[Chris Fairlie]

And it is british built :-)

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k566/fairliec/DSCF4511partreg.jpg

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Sent: 20 April 2012 08:58
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh, best day to go?

Like Kevin, it has 8 cylinders.
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On Thursday 19 Apr 2012, Susan and Martin Scott wrote:
> please reveal then
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Fairlie" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:51 PM
> Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh, best day to go?
> 
> 
> I'll be there from mid-afternoon on Sunday through to Monday without a 
> Q, but still a fibreglass car.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Kodz
> Sent: 18 April 2012 17:04
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] stoneliegh, best day to go?
> 
> From midday on Saturday until Monday afternoon?  There is camping on 
> the club stand, plus Sunday evening BBQ for club members.
> 
> Regards,
> Steve
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> On Wednesday 18 Apr 2012, jin wrote:
> > cant quite remember which day is/ was the busiest?
> > which day do most people go on?
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > hope to see you there
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh, best day to go?

[Chris Fairlie]

I'll be there from mid-afternoon on Sunday through to Monday without a Q,
but still a fibreglass car.

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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] stoneliegh, best day to go?

>From midday on Saturday until Monday afternoon?  There is camping on the
club stand, plus Sunday evening BBQ for club members.

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On Wednesday 18 Apr 2012, jin wrote:
> cant quite remember which day is/ was the busiest?
> which day do most people go on?
> 
> cheers
> 
> hope to see you there

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RE: [Quantum Owners] v8 mpg in Xtreme

[Chris Fairlie]

I had a 3.5 litre Rover V8 powered Xtreme with a 4 barrel Holey carb. I used
to get about 25mpg on tour, but that dropped below 20mpg with more spirited
driving.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Young
Sent: 16 March 2012 17:08
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] v8 mpg in Xtreme

 

thanks for the replies..  Ian, I am keeping an eye on that thread re the
fury..  pretty much what I would have to do as my starting point.

Just, curious for real work experience - as you say with the load pedal
pressed!

I'm only getting about 22mpg with my ish tuned pinto, so it probably isn't
going to make too much difference to me in practical terms. (twin 40s, fr30
cam)

cheers



On 16 March 2012 15:44, Ian Harrison  wrote:

There is a guy called scudderfish on locostbuilders who runs a v8 on MS in
his Fury. I will ask him what he gets. Well, that is got... He is rebuilding
a 4. something ex TVR v8 to do an engine swap!

Ian


On 16 Mar 2012, at 14:47, Chris Young  wrote:

> in my seemingly constant deliberation as to should I do up the v8 that
> is in my garage and shoehorn it into the Xtreme;
>
> does anyone have any idea as to what I could expect fuel economy wise?
>
> It is a rover v8 3.9 efi.  (I would aim to keep it efi, but probably
> with mega squirt etc)
>
> I have seen that in a Range Rover I could expect about 18mpg,   how
> does that translate to a car the weight ~ a quarter of this?  could I
> expect more?
>
>
>
> ( I know the whole argument about its a fun car don't worry about the
> mpg etc, but I use mine a lot, did 6k miles last year. Also it is not
> a cost issue as doing up the v8 will cost enough, it is more about how
> many times I will have to fill up and will I want a bigger tank)
>
> cheers
>
> Chris
>

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Quantum Specifications

[Chris Fairlie]

Eddie

I've sent you a scan of the back page of an Enville Street QSC brochure
which gives some measurements. The front and rear track should be in the Mk2
Fiesta Haynes Manual which unfortunately I don't have anymore.

Regards

Chris

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On Behalf Of Eddie
Sent: 13 January 2012 20:31
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Quantum Specifications

Hi all

I am currently writing the new Quantum Kit cars web site.
I want this web site to be a good reference point for new and old members
alike.
Therfore I need some help. Whilst I have all the specifications from the
build manuals, I still can not find items like the wheel base, track etc.
Now I am hoping that Hans and how fellow countrymen might be able to help
here as I know they have had to produce this for the equivalent To our DVLA
in the Netherlands.
However, is there any othe info that you, the owners feel might be of help
to either you or a new owner should they need some help reference etc.
Please let me know. Your help is appreciated.
Please also remember that I am also trying here, to achive a window on our
world that, hopefuly will encourage more potential owners into our world.
Thanks in advance.

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Southern area xmas dinner and birthday wishes.

[Chris Fairlie]

A belated Happy Birthday Jan and John.

 

Yes we will be at the SQOC bash on 17 Dec.

 

Chris and Maureen

 

 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: 04 December 2011 12:13
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Southern area xmas dinner and birthday wishes.

 

Hi all.

 

just to let you know the southern area xmas dinner will be held on the 17th
dec at 7.30pm.starting at our house and then on down to the riverside, let
us know if you would like to stay over, as ever plenty of floor space will
be available.

I would just like to say happy birthday to Jan (the big 50) and john a
little older;) great weekend here in wick and just had the first snow ball
fight 

 

See you all soon.

Andy and Ali h.

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: mk2 saloon mirrors

[Chris Fairlie]

They look rather like the Mazda 323 mirrors that are often fitted to 2+2s. 

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of cormorant
Sent: 29 November 2011 19:57
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: mk2 saloon mirrors

Have reset it again as a public album and saved the changes
again...fingers crossed it now works

On Nov 28, 10:27 pm, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> Not sure if it's just me, but the link gives a file not found :-(
>
> Is it a public album?
>
> Ian
>
> On 28 Nov 2011, at 22:16, cormorant  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > here is a picture, hope it is big enough otherwise will take a close 
> > up tomorrow
>
> >https://picasaweb.google.com/101916880161554797495/QuantumMk2Saloon#5...
>
> > On Nov 28, 8:33 pm, Jim Hearne  wrote:
> >> Those are the normal ones.
> >> Can you takes some pictures, maybe somebody will recognise them.
>
> >> Jim
>
> >> On 28/11/2011 20:16, cormorant wrote:
>
> >>> The glass has broken on the door mirror of my mk2 saloon.I 
> >>> thought the options were Rover metro, Mazda 323 or Mk2 fiesta, 
> >>> however it doesn't seem to be any of thesewere there any other 
> >>> options? The mirrors are non-electric and not heated
>
> >>> cheers
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Xtreme fuel leak solved - but could be a concern for other owners...

[Chris Fairlie]

Chris

I had the first road going V8 Xtreme. I fitted a standard Rover Bell housing
with a SD1 gearbox and linkage. There were 2 main modifications to the
chassis which were a small box cut in to the driver side foot well behind
the clutch pedal. This was to clear the starter motor mounting in the bell
housing. The second mod was on the seam at the back of the engine bay. It is
the horizontal one between the pedal box and battery, the lip was cut off
and welded flush above transmission tunnel. The other major mod was to
replace the standard water pump with an electric one because it wouldn't
clear the front suspension cross member. QSC did the chassis work for me so
they should have drawings. Finally at the back end I replaced the standard
2.0 Petrol diff with one from a Diesel Sierra with a lower ratio. This meant
I was running about 2800 RPM at 70 MPH.

As regards fitting the engine, I found it easier to fit the gearbox first
and then fit the engine and offer it up in the engine bay. Not ideal, but
the trying to guide the gearbox back and lift it clear of the mounting was
near impossible.

Go for it, you know you want to. :-)

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Young
Sent: 21 November 2011 18:08
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Xtreme fuel leak solved - but could be a
concern for other owners...

cool - just trying to guage if the ratio would match what i have. I believe
there are quite a few available.

I am still toying with the idea of sticking a  V8 into my xtreme.. (I have a
v8 in the garage that is meant to be a runner that i got cheaply. i took my
pinto out last winter and tried to shoehorn the rover v8 in with a type 9
bell housing.. didn't fit! the bell housing needed to sink into the car more
and thus why quantum say you can get the chassis modded.)

thanks for the info.

On 21 November 2011 16:30, Doug  wrote:
> One 3.62 LSD to another 3.62 LSD, both bolt on shafts from XR4x4s.
> Old one clearly a bit past its best, and off to the metal recyclers!
> Concur with wet weather tail slides, but fantastic in the dry.
> Standard Type 9 box, and mildly tuned Pinto 2.0 inj - 130bhp?
>
> Doug
>
> On Nov 21, 8:15 am, Chris Young  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Which Diff did you switch to using?  mine is also pretty noisy and I 
>> have been wondering about a LSD ?  what is the difference like?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 21 November 2011 07:51, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > My replacement was bought along with some other stuff from Quantum.
>> > It's still listed on the Xtreme Spare Parts site (http://
>> >www.quantumcars.co.uk/products/fuel/) as J459 at £7.75.
>> > Having driven the car this weekend, it seems I still have a smell 
>> >on  left hand bends, although it is less apparent than before.  
>> >Could be  because the fuel level is now a bit lower though.
>> > My next attempt to fit it will involve taking the tub off again,  
>> >removing the filler cap from the body and attaching it back to the  
>> >filler pipe and breather, then unstrapping the tank and tipping it  
>> >down.  Should be easier than tipping the car up!
>>
>> > On a more positive note, the replacement LSD is much quieter than 
>> > the old one.
>>
>> > I'll let you know what it was... and hoping for dry weather to 
>> > continue.
>>
>> > Doug
>>
>> > On Nov 19, 12:01 pm, Ian Harrison  wrote:
>> >> This is interesting as mine smells if I leave it in the garage with
the tank too full. I assumed it was the degraded rubber filler pipe, but it
may be the same thing.
>>
>> >> Can you get the seals new? If so where from and what's the part
number?
>> >> Ian
>>
>> >> On 19 Nov 2011, at 09:21, nigelp  wrote:
>>
>> >> > Thanks.  Mine has started to smell this year after left hand  
>> >> > bends so was going to remove the tub during the winter 
>> >> > hibernation to investigate.  Its about 5 years old!!
>> >> > Nigel
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Child seats in the back of a 2+2

[Chris Fairlie]

Hamish

Thanks for the advice. I know what you mean about the ISO Fix, they do look
rather flimsy.

Regards

Chris

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On Behalf Of Hamish Freeman
Sent: 20 November 2011 17:45
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Child seats in the back of a 2+2

Having had to look into this to take grandchildren in our cars, there appear
to be two types:  Those with ISO fittings and those that are retained by the
normal seat belts.

ISO fittings are installed in all new cars from whenever and consist of two
loops per seat secured firmly to the floor or rear seat assembly such that
they meet a "Pull Test" for the appropriate standard.  The child seats have
a metal frame that extends back from under the seat, fitted with
self-locking clamps that engage with the afore mentioned loops.  The seats
have their own belt assembly.  The other type may also have their own belt
assembly but rely on having standard lap diagonal belts that meet all of the
legislative requirements to hold them in place.  

Sorry but it is very unlikely that either the H4 or 2+2 would meet the
current requirements for rear seat belts for kit cars.  I had to weld in a
50 mm square tube frame across the back with side A brackets on which to
provide top anchors for the rear seat belts on the Beauford before it would
pass IVA and even then there was some doubt whether this was sufficient from
the inspectors - the fact that it was strong enough to halt a double decker
bus seemed irrelevant!

A final comment on the ISO anchors - they do seem to be somewhat lacking in
strength compared to what is required elsewhere as above.  Memory suggests
that they are only 8 mm dia rod bent to shape and welded to the existing
seat frame.

Hope this is of some help but sorry about the negative aspects.

Hamish

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On Behalf Of Chris Fairlie
Sent: 20 November 2011 13:14
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Child seats in the back of a 2+2


I have a guy interested in buying my 2+2, but he has two small children. At
the moment my car doesn't even have the lap belts fitted.

Has anyone fitted child seats in the back of a 2+2? If so how did you do it?
Do you have any photographs?

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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Sent: 19 November 2011 12:01
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Xtreme fuel leak solved - but could be a
concern for other owners...

This is interesting as mine smells if I leave it in the garage with the tank
too full. I assumed it was the degraded rubber filler pipe, but it may be
the same thing. 

Can you get the seals new? If so where from and what's the part number?
Ian 


On 19 Nov 2011, at 09:21, nigelp  wrote:

> Thanks.  Mine has started to smell this year after left hand  bends so 
> was going to remove the tub during the winter hibernation to 
> investigate.  Its about 5 years old!!
> Nigel
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[Quantum Owners] Child seats in the back of a 2+2

[Chris Fairlie]

I have a guy interested in buying my 2+2, but he has two small children. At
the moment my car doesn't even have the lap belts fitted.

Has anyone fitted child seats in the back of a 2+2? If so how did you do it?
Do you have any photographs?

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: 19 November 2011 12:01
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Xtreme fuel leak solved - but could be a
concern for other owners...

This is interesting as mine smells if I leave it in the garage with the tank
too full. I assumed it was the degraded rubber filler pipe, but it may be
the same thing. 

Can you get the seals new? If so where from and what's the part number?
Ian 


On 19 Nov 2011, at 09:21, nigelp  wrote:

> Thanks.  Mine has started to smell this year after left hand  bends so 
> was going to remove the tub during the winter hibernation to 
> investigate.  Its about 5 years old!!
> Nigel
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Searching for Q2-245

[Chris Fairlie]

Rolf

It depends when the car was built. QSC Enville Street identified a potential
problem and sent out letters in about 1998. They supplied reinforcing plates
for the affected cars and beefed up the area on the later cars.

Here is a picture of the plate fitted to my first 2+2 chassis Q2-227 built
in 1995.

http://s1116.photobucket.com/albums/k566/fairliec/?action=view¤t=Pictu
re012-1.jpg 

Chris

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On Behalf Of Rolf
Sent: 17 November 2011 20:37
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Searching for Q2-245

Should  there be a sandwich plate on the inside of the boot on the
panhard-bracket  fixingbolts? Or should there be any other mounts?
On mine, there are just two washers, and the bootfloor isn't quite flat in
there. (In the space betweeen the boot and the rear bench, I
mean)
Is the area too weak for washers?

Please explain,
Rolf

On 14 nov, 23:21, Steve Kodz  wrote:
> I'm hoping someone on hear may be able to help me trace the current 
> owner of Q2-245.  Within some spares donated to the QMOPS project I 
> have found mounts for the panhard rod that should have been fitted to 
> the car as a safety upgrade.  I have already contacted the last known 
> club member owning this car, who was helpful, but couldn't locate any 
> contact details for the new owner.
>
> If you own the car, or know who does/might please contact me off list.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
> --www.h4-turbo.co.ukwww.quantumowners.co.ukwww.quantumcars.co.ukwww.qu
> antumheritage.co.uk

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Time issue?

[Chris Fairlie]

Received at 21:11 :-)

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Time issue?

Is the group hosting server time incorrect or do the majority of quantum
owners put their posts up in the early hours? I am posting this at 21:10

Paschal

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RE: [Quantum Owners] RE: Brakes

[Chris Fairlie]

I managed to get a New Old Stock one from New Ford Parts Centre
www.newfordparts.co.uk or newfordpa...@btconnect.com. I also got a new servo
vacuum pipe seal direct from a Ford dealer.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: 09 November 2011 12:21
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] RE: Brakes

 

Do you know if Ford still sell them or is it a case of eBay again?

>From what you were describing about the servo seal being temperamental I
think that's my problem.

 

Chris G

 

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On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 08 November 2011 12:51
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] RE: Brakes

 

You can't repair servos, they are crimped together, you need to replace it.

You can (or used to) be able to buy seal only or seals and piston kits to
repair the master cylinder.

 

Jim

 

From: Chris <mailto:chris.quan...@virgin.net>  

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 12:06 PM

To: Quantum Owners Google <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: [Quantum Owners] RE: Brakes

 

If the master servo seal is on its way out, who sells them?

 

Chris G

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: .

[Chris Fairlie]

H

I don't think the front will fit because the strut tops were moved in
slightly compared with the Fiesta. Not sure about the rear, but I think they
are standard. However the fibre glass body shell is so strong I don’t think
you would gain much at the back anyway.

Regards

Chris

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On Behalf Of HB
Sent: 02 November 2011 16:33
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: .

Sorry if i sound dense but how do i find out what number quantum i have?
Also, will fiesta front/rear struts that fit between the top of the
suspension posts fit the 2+2?

Thanks for all your help, i'm really greatful chaps.

H
On Nov 1, 8:53 am, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:
> There are all sorts of variations on the spring and shock specs on the 
> Mk2 Fiesta.
> But aftermarket parts tend to be specified as 1.1L and lower, 1.3L and 
> 1.4L and then the XR2 which are both harder shocks and slightly lower.
> 2+2's often have rear shocks and/or springs from a 1.1 as the rear end 
> 2+is a
> lot lighter than the rear of a fiesta.
> Watch out if you've an early 2+2 (before the low 100's) as they have a 
> higher rear spring and shock mounting which mean special springs and 
> Quantum made extensions on the shock absorbers.
>
> Jim
>
> --
> From: "HB" 
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 4:34 PM
> To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks Bob. When you refer to fiesta shocks/springs as opposed to 
> > xr2 components, are the spring/shock specs the same for all types of 
> > mk2 'normal' fiestas?
>
> > I believe it's a zetec block after checking. The oil filter is about 
> > 10cm in from the bottom rear corner, on the LHS from the drivers POV.
> > Can you recommend any online spares stores for the dipstick apart 
> > from the obvious Ford?
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > H
>
> > On Oct 31, 9:12 am, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:
> >> Do you know if the bottom end is a 1.8 CVH , not that common as it 
> >> was only used on the Sierra and needs a few mods to fit FWD.
> >> Or was it a 1.8 Zetec bottom end ?, often used with a CVH head to 
> >> make what is commonly called a ZVH engine.
>
> >> The best way to tell is to see where the oil filter is on the back 
> >> of the engine.
> >> If it's roughly in the middle of the block then it's a CVH, if it's 
> >> down on the bottom corner of the engine (actually mounted on the 
> >> oil pump) then it's a Zetec.
>
> >> You need the dipstick and tube that matches whatever the block is.
>
> >> Jim
>
> >> >> On Oct 30, 3:05 pm, HB  wrote:
> >> >>> Hi there, I ve recently acquired my first Quantum 2+2 and my 
> >> >>> first impressions are, wow! The licence plate is F229 UPB, if 
> >> >>> by any chance one of you have owned it! However, after a few 
> >> >>> Sunday drives a couple of niggles have appeared.
> >> >>> Firstly and quite worryingly, under harsh 
> >> >>> acceleration/cornering, particularly around roundabouts (i can 
> >> >>> t resist), the rear arches do rub against the outside of the 
> >> >>> rear wheels.  It s running 195/50/R15 tyres, which I don t 
> >> >>> believe are the problem, but if any of you do think they are 
> >> >>> the problem, please say. Other than that, could I have some 
> >> >>> advice on what springs/shocks to replace the current ones with 
> >> >>> to avoid the problem?
> >> >>> Secondly, the engine is a 1.4cvh head with a 1.8 bottom end. 
> >> >>> Well, this is what the guy i bought it off has told me! The 
> >> >>> issue here is, the dipstick is from the 1.4 block so does not 
> >> >>> even reach the oil with a fresh 3.5L in. So my question is, 
> >> >>> will the 1.8 cvh dipstick be fit for purpose? Or, if any of you 
> >> >>> could point me in the right direction to what dipstick would 
> >> >>> suit/someone in the know, it d be greatly appreciated.
> >> >>> FYI, the quantum was registered in 1992 and is based on a 1.4 
> >> >>> mk2 of 1989. The now 1.8 engine has been gas flowed with a kent 
> >> >>> cam and scorpion exhaust with a TDLM carb. It s a beautiful 
> >> >>> black, with some tidy 15 alloys. 0-60 has been timed at 7.8 
> >> >>> Thanks for reading this far, any information will be greatly 
> >> >>> appreciated.
> >> >>> HB
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Quantum Coupe on E bay

[Chris Fairlie]

Steve

Sorry I don't recognise this one although it does look nice in the pictures.

Another thought, I've just put my 2+2 up for sale on the QOC web site.

Regards

Chris

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On Behalf Of steve c
Sent: 18 October 2011 16:11
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Quantum Coupe on E bay

Hi
AS my search for a H4 isn't bearing fruit, I'm tempted to consider a coupe
(on the weatherproof get through winter front...) - Does anyone know
anything about the history of B657BBM, advertised on e bay - link below

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160666866176

Cheers
StevieCee

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Pinto - getting it to run cooler in an Xtreme

[Chris Fairlie]

Sean

I had problems getting the V8 in my Xtreme to run cool. I fitted an oil
cooler, water wetter, 3 core rad, drilled holes in the nosecone, exhaust
bandage on the headers, fitted a cowl between the nosecone and the rad. In
the end I fixed it by moving the rad forward and fitting a fan behind the
radiator.

Before cutting holes in the nose cone/bonet, try driving without the bonnet
and see if it helps the temperatures.

Good luck

Chris Fairlie

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On Behalf Of Sean
Sent: 11 October 2011 15:35
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Pinto - getting it to run cooler in an Xtreme

Its been like it for a while. I know the radiator looks like its seen better
days, so that is probably a good starting point.

I'm planning a trip to classis Le Mans next year and want to do all I can to
prevent it doing its normal trick of breaking down on the M25 !
Not that either time has been anything to do with overheating

On Oct 11, 2:09 pm, Steve Kodz  wrote:
> If it has got worse over time it is likely to be either a rad (and 
> possibly engine system in general) full of crud, as Bob Craig's 
> suggestion, or like my Saloon rad and losing the cooling fins due to age.
>
> If it used to be OK definitely worth looking at those 2 areas.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
> --www.h4-turbo.co.ukwww.quantumowners.co.ukwww.quantumcars.co.ukwww.qu
> antumheritage.co.uk

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Springs 2+2

[Chris Fairlie]

QSC at Enville Street used to sell Special Red front springs. I believe
these were the same rating as Ford XR2 ones but there are longer. Therefore
you get better more ground clearance.

Try Eddie at QKC to see if there are any left.

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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Sent: 27 September 2011 14:56
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Springs 2+2

Hi can anyone advise what type of springs to fit a 2+2. My son bought his
car a few weeks ago and the ride is very hard and very low and catches his
exhuast on any sleeping policemen or bumps in the road...

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Pinto Xtreme will not start

[Chris Fairlie]

Ian

That is good news. 

Regards

Chris

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On Behalf Of Ian Mac
Sent: 18 September 2011 20:44
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Pinto Xtreme will not start



Gents,

Thanks for the responses.  I have now got it running this afternoon:
Distributor was out by some distance.  I am not fully sure why as I was sure
that I had set up correctly.  When I get a chance, I will take a look at
final position against what I had done previously.

Anyway, now running and I can try and get car sorted and back on the road.

Regards,

Ian Mac

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Pinto Xtreme will not start

[Chris Fairlie]

Ian

Sounds like you've thought of most things. I've been there too and it was
the timing 180 degrees out. The tell tail was an occasional back draft out
of the carb when a spark ignites fuel with the inlet valve open. The easiest
way to elongate this is to move the plug leads around on the dizzy cap.

Good luck.

Chris

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On Behalf Of Ian Mac
Sent: 17 September 2011 11:14
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Pinto Xtreme will not start

Looking for some help here as I cannot get my Pinto Xtreme to start now that
I have changed the cylinder head.
Car was running before on 40's but was smoky at start up so changed the head
for one that I knew was good.
Head back on and everything seems to be connected: I have fuel going to
engine, I have a spark at each of the plugs and I am sure that I have set
camshaft, crank timings  and distributor correctly.  Crank timing marks line
up with compression stroke timing marks on camshaft and distributor aligns
with scribe mark for No.1 cylinder.
It does not seem to want to start at all.
In addition, I have just checked the compression on the engine (should have
done it before I took it apart, but I forgot!) and compression is not what I
woud expect at 7-8 Bar, but car not turning very fast as battery starting to
run low.
Any suggestions greatly received.

Ian Mac
Xtreme S3-059

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[Quantum Owners] Brit24, Silverstone's answer to LeMans 30 September to 2 October

[Chris Fairlie]

Dear all

Steve Kodz and I have just booked for this event. Seamed great value for
money. If any else fancies joining us get booking.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=23844

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On Behalf Of george
Sent: 02 September 2011 18:02
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] quantum shells in fife

The quantum shells in fife are no longer with the (put your own words
in) man you will be happy to know we have retreived them and they are now
stored in a small town on the kent coast that some of you may have visited
recently Whitstable. Eddie and I are knackered..  A very big thanks to Eddie
and his help...

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Texalarm keyfob

[Chris Fairlie]

Matthew

I managed to get 2 replacement alarm fob cases from this company last year.

http://www.abacuscaralarms.co.uk/alarms/remote_controls/autowatch-remotes.ht
ml

Not cheap, but better than replacing the alarm or losing your car!!

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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On Behalf Of MatthewG
Sent: 29 July 2011 11:45
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Texalarm keyfob

Hi all,

My 2+2 is fitted with a Texalarm system which unlocks the car via a keyfob
but unfortunately the little keyring loop on the keyfob has broken so it no
longer stays attached to my keys. I'm so paranoid about losing it (and
leaving myself stranded) that I'm currently checking it's still there dozens
of times a day...

Inside it's just a very tiny circuit board so although I did a quick google
for a replacement outer shell for it (which came up with nothing useful) I
started thinking perhaps there might be a better solution.

I've found a website called 'Shapeways' (www.shapeways.com) which suggests
that they can make pretty much anything, in a variety of materials, based on
plans you submit online. I don't have the technical wizardry to do that but
it did make me wonder if any of you fine folks either know how to create
such plans, or if you know of another way to get something made. I quite
like the idea of a polished metal keyfob, perhaps with the Quantum logo as
the lock/unlock button, into which I pop my little Texalarm circuit board.

Any ideas, folks?

Matthew

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Former Keepers on V5

[Chris Fairlie]

Dave

I bought a car with a standard plate on it. I then transferred my private
plate on to the car. When I took the private plate off the car I got the
original registration back, but it now states 'Non Transferable' .  This
refers to the plate cannot be transferred to another car, but you can
transfer another plate to the car.

Regards

Chris

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On Behalf Of Dave the Subbie
Sent: 19 July 2011 19:00
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Former Keepers on V5

For what it's worth, my 2+2 was registered on a new "R" reg when built by
the factory, but still has the number of registered keepers from the door on
the V5. How that works, I'm not sure, but there it is.
Either it was new, or it wasn't? Seems like DVLA couldn't quite decide?

I understood that the non-transferrable marks were just to stop you putting
them onto another car, not to stop you putting a personal plate on that car.
Which is a heck of a cheek, when DVLA are selling similar age-related plates
by auction. Presumably, you would get the non-transferrable mark back when
you took the personal plate off. I haven't transferred a plate onto or off
such a car, though, so I'm not sure if I'm right?

I also understood that you couldn't (legally) transfer any other plate onto
a Q-reg car. I'm pretty sure that the direct.gov website does say that.

All seems a bit of a minefield, really. But may be worth a try, just out of
curiousity?

Dave.

On Jul 19, 6:02 pm, Magic Jayne  wrote:
> I put a personal plate on my original 2+2 but we registered it with 
> the the donor reg number (its was pre-SVA days). I think if you have a 
> "non-transferable mark" note on the V5, then you probably wouldn't be 
> allowed to do a cherished transfer, as usually, but not always, they 
> revert back to their original mark when you take it back off. I am 
> just about to do a cherished transfer on my new H4 so fingers crossed!
>
> Thanks for all the V5 info, I am trying to work out the history of 
> this H4. Its chassis number is QH4-001 and its definitely factory 
> built as I have the original build receipt signed by one of the 
> Wooldridges. I also have quite a lot of the service history and it 
> would seem that it has probably only had one owner up to the last 9 
> months, but the V5 said 8 previous owners so I was wondering if that 
> actually applied to the donor, but it is sounds like it probably does.
>
> Anyone know any other history for it?
>
> Many thanks
> Jayne
>
> On Jul 19, 3:42 pm, "Susan and Martin Scott"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> > Mine had SVA, and was issued with an age-related plate (old Ereg), 
> > and a date of first registration 01/08/2009.
> > Marked as previous keepers NONE
> > also in special notes
> > "Non-transferable registration mark"
> >  "Rebuilt - Assembled from parts some or all of which were not new"
> > also "SVA cert 27/4/2009 emission limit - %CO 3.5 HC 1.12"
> > I wonder if I decided to put a 'cherished number' on it if they 
> > would allow it - after all I wouldn't be transfering the 
> > registration mark, I'd be binning it!
> > Interestingly although I took it for SVA 27 April, they took so long 
> > to register it that I don't need an MOT until 01 Aug!
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jim Hearne" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Former Keepers on V5
>
> > I don't think you can keep the original donor registration anymore,  
> > you will get is a new registration number from the same year.
> > My 2+2 got a replacement age related B registration but unlike Sean 
> > mine says 0 previous owners.
> > It also says something along the lines of date of manufacture 1985, 
> > date of registration 1998.
>
> > Jim
>
> > --
> > From: "Magic Jayne" 
> > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:28 PM
> > To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Former Keepers on V5
>
> > > Hi
> > > Can you tell me, when you register your car on the original plate 
> > > (not Q plates) does it keep the same number of former keepers or 
> > > does it revert to zero?
> > > Thanks
> > > Jayne
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Gearbox linkage mod

[Chris Fairlie]

Tony

Yes I replaced the nylon bushes in the linkage at the gear box end as
described in Zetecinside. It works a treat. I decided to use Stainless Bolts
with the unthreaded shoulder the right length to fit between the bearings.

I left the Gearstick end unmodified and didn't need the rubber cotton reels.

Regards

Chris

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of TonyV
Sent: 19 July 2011 19:01
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Gearbox linkage mod

Has anybody carried out the modification mentioned on one of the Fiesta
tuning websites (zetecinside?)

I was tempted to bin the joint and use a group4 escort steering joint that I
happened to have lying around, but the Fiesta mod looked more
straightforward.

The latter part of the mod involves using rubber bobbin mounts under the
gear lever to reduce the noise transmitted through the new linkage mech.

Is this necessary, or is it just due to the quickshift which he also fitted?


PS.  If anybody is considering the mod, ebay has the same bearings for a
fraction of the price at RS.

TonyV

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RE: [Quantum Owners] QOC haynes action day - change of date

[Chris Fairlie]

Andy

 

Maureen and I are planning to be there.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

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On Behalf Of ANDREW HEATON
Sent: 11 July 2011 22:06
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] QOC haynes action day - change of date

 

hi all

 

just to confirm that we've had to change the date for Haynes action day as
building work will be commencing from 1st september.

 

so the new date is sunday 28th August, yep it's the bank holiday weekend and
the week after qmops/air show.

 

please confirm your intention to attend 

 

thank you 

 

andy h

 

 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 hood catches

[Chris Fairlie]

Jin

I can't see the picture you posted. 

I believe the design was changed to comply with SVA (approx. 1997 or 1998).
What chassis number is yours, if it is an earlier one it may be different
from mine.  My current 2+2 is chassis Q2-397 and made in 2002, but my
original 2+2 was pre SVA and chassis number Q2-227.

Regards

Chris

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On Behalf Of jin
Sent: 09 July 2011 09:36
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 hood catches

anybody?

pleeease

On Jul 6, 7:37 pm, jin  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> At the factory open day (great day as it was) I did happen to notice 
> that all other 2+2s had hood catches on the screen top that were 
> straight outwards
>
> Mine however are more bent upwards like so
>
> [IMG]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC01715.jpg[/IMG]
>
> even before the open day i had identified straightening  the catches 
> out as a way to stop the header rail on the hood from sticking up at 
> the back as this would effectively lower there height of the catch 
> that the latches latch onto and hence move them slightly lower down, 
> if that makes sense?
>
> So my big questions are
>
> Are every one else’s catches straight?
> And is there any reason why mine are bent before i whip them off and 
> make new straight ones?
>
> Cheers loads

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Open day F1 simulator

[Chris Fairlie]

Jin

Good to see some new faces.

Eddie and Karen

Thank you for organising a great day, shame we didn't get the V8 rumble. I
was ready for a fix. :-(

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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On Behalf Of jin
Sent: 02 July 2011 18:48
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Open day F1 simulator

What a great day we had
Thanks to all for making us feel so welcome

I learned loads and am happy to report my car returned home safe and sound
with no problems whatsoever on its maiden voyage, even got 40mpg!!!

Im looking forward to the next gathering im able to attend in the near
future

Best wishes

Justin


On Jun 30, 2:04 pm, Eddie  wrote:
> Well done Jim. Good luck with the boot
>
> Eddie
>
> On Jun 30, 9:35 am, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > The 2+2 is washed and ready to go :-) I've yet to find out if i can 
> > get a saloon boot inside the boot of a 2+2 !
>
> > Jim
>
> > --
> > From: "Eddie" 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:27 AM
> > To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Open day F1 simulator
>
> > > Ok, best of luck with that.
>
> > > Eddie
>
> > > On Jun 30, 7:08 am, jin  wrote:
> > >> looking forward to this too
>
> > >> so far ive still got to sort out my on going timing belt 
> > >> tensioner issuse / balance the wheels / re-fit the exhaust / put 
> > >> the seats back in, all by saturday then a 200 mile trip to test 
> > >> it all .
>
> > >> On Jun 30, 12:27 am, Eddie  wrote:
>
> > >> > Hi Cg
>
> > >> > Take a look atwww.dynamicmouldings.co.uk On there you will see 
> > >> > a page ,how to find us'
> > >> > Put in your post code and it will show a map that you can print
off.
>
> > >> > Address is.
> > >> > Unit C1 Backfield Farm Businnes Park Wotton Road, Iron Acton 
> > >> > Bristol BS37 6XR
>
> > >> > Look forward to seeing you
>
> > >> > Eddie
>
> > >> > On Jun 29, 10:57 pm, "Craig Evans" 
> > >> > 
> > >> > wrote:
>
> > >> > > Hi Eddie,
>
> > >> > > Could you provide the location.
>
> > >> > > Regards
>
> > >> > > Craig
>
> > >> > > -Original Message-
> > >> > > From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> > >> > > [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
>
> > >> > > On Behalf Of Eddie
> > >> > > Sent: 29 June 2011 22:20
> > >> > > To: Quantum Owners Group
> > >> > > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Open day F1 simulator
>
> > >> > > Hi All
>
> > >> > > Just got back from setting up the F1 simulator at work.
>
> > >> > > It costs �10 for an out lap and 2 timed laps.
>
> > >> > > Now the question is, is who will be the fastest QOC driver.
>
> > >> > > See you here on Sat 10am to 3.30pm
>
> > >> > > Eddie
>
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Newark last week...

[Chris Fairlie]

Just spotted some pictures of the QOC club stand on the Newark Show web site
taken on the Saturday I believe.

Pictures 8 to 18 at the following link
http://www.kitcarshow.co.uk/gallery/2011/kitcarshow/4

Regards

Chris 

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On Behalf Of jin
Sent: 26 June 2011 09:43
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Newark last week...

Yeah, Stretched Limo and hire it out for hen parties :)

Glad you’re saving all these endangered species Eddie

You must be eligible for a lottery grant by now :)

On Jun 25, 7:03 pm, "Chris"  wrote:
> Stretched Limo with hydraulic dampers to get over speed bumps?
>
> Believe me, I did consider going that route a few years ago when the 
> 'er indoors was on about getting a bigger car!
> Luckily both ideas fizzled out.
>
> Chris G
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
>
> On Behalf Of Eddie
> Sent: 24 June 2011 22:57
> To: Quantum Owners Group
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Newark last week...
>
> Hi All
>
> Just let everyone know, the Coupe that was on the Newark stand for 
> breaking is now tucked up safe in my garage.
> I will take some time to consider it's future. It's a toss up between
> 1) restoring and selling on. 2) breaking up and selling the parts. 3) 
> turning it into a track car. Or 4) turning it into a 6 wheeler van.
>
> Your thoughts ???
>
> Eddie
>
> On Jun 24, 8:28 pm, "Susan and Martin Scott"
>  wrote:
> > The Mirov builder/owner is QOC member Brian Thompson - I can 
> > recommend his book of the build process!
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "barnacle" 
> > To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 5:48 PM
> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Newark last week...
>
> > A quick question: what was the significance of the Mirov coming and 
> > parking with us? Is it owned by a QOC member?
>
> > Oh, and Andy H, I changed the exhaust to a 2.25" system (standard 
> > for the 20vt engine) custom made (obviously, given my engine!) by 
> > powerflow at a place in St Albans this morning. Lovely work in 
> > stainless. By my calculations, that's twice the flow of the the 1.5"
> > system that was on... it's cut the noise on boost somewhat though 
> > there's still a lot of intake noise.
>
> > I thought it was quick before... oh dearie me!
>
> > Neil
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RE: [Quantum Owners] QMOPS on Saturday

[Chris Fairlie]

Robert

 

Only another week. J

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of robert greig
Sent: 04 June 2011 14:54
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] QMOPS on Saturday

 

I hate my job.

I never get to join you chaps.

 

still our trip is soon.


Robert Greig

 

  _  

From: andy heaton 
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 2 June, 2011 21:03:03
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] QMOPS on Saturday

Yeah that is absolutley fine steve. 
 
> From: st...@h4-turbo.co.uk
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] QMOPS on Saturday
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:38:50 +0100
> 
> Having just spoken to Eddie, he is not currently ready for a QMOPS meeting

> down at his workshop on Saturday, so the alternative is a meeting down at 
> the barn in Dorset. If we have enough interest, we will meet at the barn
to 
> catalogue and box up metal parts from 003, ready to be taken away for shot

> blasting and electroplating.
> 
> If you are interesting in this please contact me asap,
st...@h4-turbo.co.uk. 
> If we don't have enough interest I will cancel this meet and we will put 
> extra effort into the August meeting.
> 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Xtreme Headlight

[Chris Fairlie]

Needs to be gently levered apart with a screwdriver near to bolt fixing at
the top. Good luck in not scratching the paint off though!

Regards

Chris

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On Behalf Of Steve Kodz
Sent: 01 June 2011 21:32
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Xtreme Headlight

Feel free to laugh and point, but can someone please tell me how to open up
the Xtreme headlight, so I can change the bulb?

I've removed the allen head bold from the top of the case, then tried
pulling, prising and twisting the front part of the headlight to open the
casing.  There are holes in the bottom, but they appear to be just drain
holes, so I'm completely stumped :(

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Another screen bites the dust...

[Chris Fairlie]

I had a screen crack soon after I got my Xtreme on the road. I contacted
Footman James and they passed the claim on to their preferred windscreen
repairer. (Someone like Autoglass)

I happened to have a trip to QSC Loddiswell the next day so I just got the
screen replaced, at my own expense, while I was there. This wasn't a great
fit as the bottom edge touched the scuttle at the sides, but there was a
3-4mm gap in the middle. QSC just filled this with sealant. 

The day after I got back, Autoglass called to arrange replacement. I
explained it was a kit car with a unique shaped screen. They weren't at all
phased as they can get flat sheets of glass and cut it to fit on site using
the original screen as a pattern. By then I was kicking myself, as they
would have replaced the screen under insurance and it probably would have
been cut differently to fit better than the one supplied by QSC.

My advice, speak to your insurer first.

Good luck

Regards

Chris

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On Behalf Of Doug
Sent: 27 May 2011 12:49
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Another screen bites the dust...

Woe is me!

Little cracks in the lower corners of my Xtreme windscreen recently grew to
the top meaning another dead screen.  That's 2 broken duing the build, and
now the third broken in 4000 miles use.  Not one of them from stone chipping
either.  I made sure there was no point loading or bending on the screen
caused by the upper and lower frames last time I fitted a new screen about a
year ago, so I've no real idea why it broke again.  Anyway, just ordered a
new one from Quantum, and while they've only got the standard ones at the
moment, albeit now at over £30 more than they were before, the next set they
have ordered will be thicker.  How much I don't know, but hopefully thicker
screens will be stronger.  Add postage at £40 to the £80 for the screen, and
vat on top of that, and it's now getting pretty expensive.  I wonder if I
can claim on my insurance - I have the club linked FJ policy.
Any ideas?

Doug

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RE: [Quantum Owners] No Barbeque on 12 June

[Chris Fairlie]

Hamish

 

Oh my goodness, that is awful news.

 

I hope no one was hurt and you get it sorted rapidly.

 

Regards

 

Chris & Maureen

 

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On Behalf Of Hamish Fre...
Sent: 22 May 2011 19:27
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] No Barbeque on 12 June

 

Sorry but we will have to cancel any idea of a barbeque on 12 June as
yesterday our house caught fire and is sufficiently damaged to be
uninhabitable.  

We are currently staying with friends in lieu of contacting the insurance
tomorow, which will be followed by a period away from home whilst the damage
is repaired - we hope!

No services operable means that we are essentially incomunicardo until I can
get some power back, this message being sent from our friends machine.

Hamish 

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[Quantum Owners] Detling - Any one going?

[Chris Fairlie]

Is anyone planning to visit the Detling show? 

If so which day?

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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[Quantum Owners] Newark Show accommodation

[Chris Fairlie]

Dear All

Are any of you planning to say Friday or Saturday night for the Newark Show
QOC birthday bash?

If so I can recommend The Halfway Motel on A46 a couple of miles from the
show ground, a few of us have stayed there for the last 2 shows. I checked
last week and they still had some rooms available. 

More info at http://www.halfway-farm-motel.co.uk/index.htm.

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Eddie
Sent: 11 May 2011 17:34
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: stonleigh

Hi Brian

Glad you enjoyed your time with us.
Welcome to the world of the QOC, it's a truly great place to be.

Eddie

On May 10, 11:48 pm, xtreme brian  wrote:
> Thank you to you all for making me feel most welcome on my first 
> outing with the QOC.I had agreat weekend,met a lot of nice folk and 
> picked up a lot of useful information.
> Regards Brian Whitmarsh.

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs

[Chris Fairlie]

Thanks Chris

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On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: 06 May 2011 21:43
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs

According to my copy

RH XR2 1984 - 1986  R87FX 3219 KA
   1986 - 1988  R87FX 3219 LA

LH XR2 1984 - 1986  R87FX 3220 KA
   1986 - 1988  R87FX 3220 HA 

Chris G 
  

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On Behalf Of Chris Fairlie
Sent: 06 May 2011 18:39
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs

Does anyone (other than Jim) have access to FINNIS Ford Parts system?7

I need the part numbers for O/S and N/S drive shafts for a 1985 Fiesta XR2.
Eddie has some in stock and I want to check if they are the right ones.

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jur
Sent: 06 May 2011 09:10
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs

You could try and source some fiesta 1.6D shafts, as these are the same..
and used to be easier to find, half the price etc.

regards
Jur

On May 5, 8:21 pm, "Chris Fairlie" 
wrote:
> Has anyone got any usable XR2 driveshafts and front hubs I can buy?
>
>  I have a bad vibration between 50 and 70mph. I've changed the brake 
> discs, tyres, & wheels and they have been balanced many times. So time 
> for more drastic measures.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris Fairlie

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs

[Chris Fairlie]

Does anyone (other than Jim) have access to FINNIS Ford Parts system?7

I need the part numbers for O/S and N/S drive shafts for a 1985 Fiesta XR2.
Eddie has some in stock and I want to check if they are the right ones.

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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On Behalf Of Jur
Sent: 06 May 2011 09:10
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs

You could try and source some fiesta 1.6D shafts, as these are the same..
and used to be easier to find, half the price etc.

regards
Jur

On May 5, 8:21 pm, "Chris Fairlie" 
wrote:
> Has anyone got any usable XR2 driveshafts and front hubs I can buy?
>
>  I have a bad vibration between 50 and 70mph. I've changed the brake 
> discs, tyres, & wheels and they have been balanced many times. So time 
> for more drastic measures.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris Fairlie

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs

[Chris Fairlie]

Hamish, Jon and Geoff

 

Thanks for the thoughts.

 

The vibration has been there since I bought the car 4 years ago. The last
time I had the balanced the wheels were check by eye on the balancing
machine and all 4 were found to be slightly buckled, but there is no sign of
kerb or pothole damage to the rims. They do have the plastic inserts to
ensure they are aligned on the hubs. The new wheels also have similar
plastic inserts and fit very snugly on to the centre of the hubs. As I said
before I hoped that replacing the buckled wheels with new ones would get rid
of the vibration. I’m now thinking, as Hamish suggested, that perhaps the
drive shaft is unbalanced or bent. This may have caused the buckled wheels.

 

I’ve found a couple of places where I can get new CV Joints, but no one has
complete drive shafts.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of geoff ward
Sent: 05 May 2011 23:26
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs

 

Hi Chris,

 

Jon could be right, if you haven't checked they are really snug fit it could
be worth checking. Strangely 2 off Carole's wheels an extra sort of ring
thing to make the bit that fits over the spigot and 2 have been machined to
fit perfectly as they are. When one of the special rings went missing some
time during a tyre replacement

to a front wheel the vibration between about 55 to 70mph was very
noticeable. fortunately i found a suitable replacement and the problem
completely disappeared. Good luck hope you find the cure.

 

Regards, Geoff.

On 5 May 2011 22:58, jon jackson  wrote:

Hi Chris,
  before you change the shafts have you checked to make sure your
whels are located on the hubs centrally as some aftermarket wheels are too
big and its vital that the hub spigot is a snug fit.or you get
vibration between 50 and 70 mph!
Just a thought, good luck.
Cheers
Jon
- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Fairlie"

To:  


Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:21 PM

Subject: [Quantum Owners] Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs



Has anyone got any usable XR2 driveshafts and front hubs I can buy?

I have a bad vibration between 50 and 70mph. I've changed the brake discs,
tyres, & wheels and they have been balanced many times. So time for more
drastic measures.

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Craig
Sent: 04 May 2011 19:47
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 PARTS & SUBTLE MODIFICATIONS FOR 2+2 AND
COUPE

Also DCNFs fit better in the XR2/Quantum engine bay. the DCOEs end up very
or hard against the subframe at the bulkhead.

Bob Craig Q2-267
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From: "Ian Harrison" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 PARTS & SUBTLE MODIFICATIONS FOR 2+2 AND
COUPE


Yep dcnf are downdraft twin choke carbs.
Ian

Sent from my iPad

On 3 May 2011, at 15:31, Jim  wrote:

Very interested in the dcnf carbs.

Out of interest what's the difference betwixt them and the dcoe?
Thought it was side vs top draft? Do both types fit a 2+2? (with 2,0
cvh conversion ongoing)(slowly - hopefully unlike the final result!)

Jim Wall


Sent from my mobile

On 2 May 2011, at 17:34, Kelvin Chambers  wrote:

Following the sale of my 2+2 last year due to ongoing neck pain
[following a serious RTA in my Audi] I have been having a clearout of
my shed and am now disposing of all my XR2 parts and serious
modifications I was planning for my 2+2. So here is a list of parts
with estimated prices before I list them on ebay - If anyone is
interested in a job lot I am open to sensible offers...


Brand New Zetec 1800 Engine with gearbox and CV Joints connected.
Plus Lightweight 4 branch Stainless Steel manifold and front exhaust
pipe, Plus wiring loom to connect XR2 wiring loom to the Zetec
engine. Plus complete fuel injection system all brand new. Superb
opportunity to upgrade a tired CVH engined Quantum.  Offers for the
whole lot around
£400

4 x Wolfrace Quantum Alloy Wheels 6.5J x 15 5 Spoke for Fiesta Mk 2
and 3 so OK for H4 as well as 2+2 and Coupe complete with Uniroyal
Rainsport 1 Tyres 195/50 R15 82V Rotational. Wheels and Tyres are
almost brand new and look lovely on a Q.£200 set of 4 (photos
available)

Weber Twin 40s DCNF Matching Carbs. Numbers are 99-250 3M / 100-250
4A. Complete with K&N Filters on CVH Manifold plus 2 x Weber Service
Kits 9214100501. I had these on my 2+2 and are jetted for a 1.6 CVH
engine. They increased power output to around 120bhp. These are
expensive. Will sell to Q owner for£200

Weber Twin 40s DCOE Matching Carbs with small trumpets. Matching
Numbers 151   242  02 on each carb. On a CVH Manifold complete with
Filter King Fuel Pressure Regulator and 4 x 

[Quantum Owners] Wanted XR2 drive shafts and hubs

[Chris Fairlie]

Has anyone got any usable XR2 driveshafts and front hubs I can buy?

 I have a bad vibration between 50 and 70mph. I've changed the brake discs,
tyres, & wheels and they have been balanced many times. So time for more
drastic measures.

Regards

Chris Fairlie

-Original Message-
From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Craig
Sent: 04 May 2011 19:47
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 PARTS & SUBTLE MODIFICATIONS FOR 2+2 AND
COUPE

Also DCNFs fit better in the XR2/Quantum engine bay. the DCOEs end up very
or hard against the subframe at the bulkhead.

Bob Craig Q2-267
- Original Message -
From: "Ian Harrison" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] XR2 PARTS & SUBTLE MODIFICATIONS FOR 2+2 AND
COUPE


Yep dcnf are downdraft twin choke carbs.
Ian

Sent from my iPad

On 3 May 2011, at 15:31, Jim  wrote:

> Very interested in the dcnf carbs.
>
> Out of interest what's the difference betwixt them and the dcoe? 
> Thought it was side vs top draft? Do both types fit a 2+2? (with 2,0 
> cvh conversion ongoing)(slowly - hopefully unlike the final result!)
>
> Jim Wall
>
>
> Sent from my mobile
>
> On 2 May 2011, at 17:34, Kelvin Chambers  wrote:
>
>> Following the sale of my 2+2 last year due to ongoing neck pain 
>> [following a serious RTA in my Audi] I have been having a clearout of 
>> my shed and am now disposing of all my XR2 parts and serious 
>> modifications I was planning for my 2+2. So here is a list of parts 
>> with estimated prices before I list them on ebay - If anyone is 
>> interested in a job lot I am open to sensible offers...
>>
>>
>> Brand New Zetec 1800 Engine with gearbox and CV Joints connected. 
>> Plus Lightweight 4 branch Stainless Steel manifold and front exhaust 
>> pipe, Plus wiring loom to connect XR2 wiring loom to the Zetec 
>> engine. Plus complete fuel injection system all brand new. Superb 
>> opportunity to upgrade a tired CVH engined Quantum.  Offers for the 
>> whole lot around
>> £400
>>
>> 4 x Wolfrace Quantum Alloy Wheels 6.5J x 15 5 Spoke for Fiesta Mk 2 
>> and 3 so OK for H4 as well as 2+2 and Coupe complete with Uniroyal 
>> Rainsport 1 Tyres 195/50 R15 82V Rotational. Wheels and Tyres are
>> almost brand new and look lovely on a Q.£200 set of 4 (photos
>> available)
>>
>> Weber Twin 40s DCNF Matching Carbs. Numbers are 99-250 3M / 100-250 
>> 4A. Complete with K&N Filters on CVH Manifold plus 2 x Weber Service 
>> Kits 9214100501. I had these on my 2+2 and are jetted for a 1.6 CVH 
>> engine. They increased power output to around 120bhp. These are
>> expensive. Will sell to Q owner for£200
>>
>> Weber Twin 40s DCOE Matching Carbs with small trumpets. Matching
>> Numbers 151   242  02 on each carb. On a CVH Manifold complete with
>> Filter King Fuel Pressure Regulator and 4 x ITG Megaflow Filter 
>> Socks.  These are very special carbs and are like new - approx 500 
>> miles use only. I had these with a 2.0 litre ZVH engine but have sold 
>> the engine to a Quantum Owner who didn't require the carbs. Jetted 
>> for a 2.0 litre ZVH engine.  Again, these are very expensive carbs.
>> £300 ono
>>
>> Electric Power Steering Conversion Kit. Comprises a Vauxhall Corsa 
>> electric power steering column C/w steering wheel and knuckle joint, 
>> wiring loom and electronic brain to operate the system. These are 
>> about £1400 for a new kit from Demon Tweeks. Selling for what I paid
>> for it£240
>>
>> 2nd Corsa Electric Power Steering Column with motor and ECU control
>> box.£100
>>
>> Haynes Weber Carburettors Owners Workshop Manual  £5
>>
>> 2+2 Boot Cardboard Trim Pieces to trim the boot area - was
>> £14.82£5
>>
>> XR2 Pair Headlights   £10
>>
>> 2+2 Boot lid Fibreglass Inner Liner - good condition £5
>>
>> Fiesta Mk 2 Steering Rack from AP Lockheed Brand New but broken 
>> bracket on one side. It could be repaired or use two large washers
>> either side  £5
>>
>> Fiesta Mk 2 Steering Rack from AMK Automotive Components. Brand New
>> £10
>>
>> Weber 32/34 DFT square top twin choke carb. For spares or repair - you
>> would need to strip it down  £10
>>
>> XR2 Fog light / Heated rear window switch plastic cluster. Screws to
>> side of dash. Excellent codition. £5
>>
>> XR2 Hand Brake Cabels. Brand New with adjuster£10
>>
>> XR2 Dashboard Car

[Quantum Owners] STONELEIGH KIT SHOW Another great year for QOC

[Chris Fairlie]

A great big thank you to all who made this year's Stoneleigh such a great
success.

Sorry we disappeared without say goodbye to most of you, but we needed to
get back.

Thanks

Chris & Maureen


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RE: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh.

[Chris Fairlie]

Good luck with the move and the decorating. I know what I'd rather be doing!

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 20 April 2011 11:13
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh.

 

We need the rest of the holiday weekend to decorate the old house (once it's
empty) so we can sell it ASAP.

 

Jim

 

From: Susan and Martin Scott
  

Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:08 AM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh.

 

Surely only one day required to move! Take it steady - Maybe see you both at
Newark?

- Original Message - 

From: Jim Hearne   

To: quantumowners@googlegroupscom 

Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:51 AM

Subject: [Quantum Owners] Stoneleigh.

 

Hi All,
Due to moving house on the 27th i won't be at Stoneleigh this year.
I hope you all have a nice weekend.

At least the new house has a double garage so i'll be able to get back onto
working on the Quantum projects quite soon now.

Jim

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Sierra Wiper stalk

[Chris Fairlie]

Nigel

I may have one in my garage. What is the part number on your faulty one?

Regards

Chris Fairlie

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On Behalf Of nigelp
Sent: 17 April 2011 18:20
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Sierra Wiper stalk

Just been getting my car ready for the MoT, so can get to Stoneleigh and the
hazard warning switch and left hand indicators went on the blink.  Problem's
definitely the stalk, so this is a plea for help, does anyone have a circa
1990 Sierra indicator stalk and hazard switch (all one unit) lieing around
in their garage wanting a new home.  Will gladly pay and for postage.  Will
also try the local breakers  first choice autos and motor factors tomorrow ,
althoigh haven't seen a Sierra in the breakers for quite a while.

Nigel

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Xtreme wheel rim size

[Chris Fairlie]

I fitted Peugeot fitment 15" Wolfrace wheels to Kevin. I think they were
about ET25. This was on the recommendation of John Sampson. The only problem
was the Peugeot hubs and about 2mm larger diameter and the Wolfrace wheels
didn't take the plastic insert they were just machined to fit direct.

Regards

Chris

-Original Message-
From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of barnacle
Sent: 16 April 2011 08:49
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Xtreme wheel rim size

Note that standard ford 15" wheels (e.g. Focus) are offset 55 - and as a
result don't fit without spacers. I found that out the hard way...
anyone want some focus wheels?

Neil

On Apr 15, 8:31 am, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:
> It will be marked somewhere on the wheel.
> Either stamped on a flat area on the rim, under the centre cap (if it 
> has
> them) or sometimes on the rear of the wheel in the recesses between 
> the bolt holes.
> I don't remember any alloys that didn't have the size and the offset 
> stamped somewhere.
>
> Jim
>
> --
> From: "Sean" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:29 PM
> To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Xtreme wheel rim size
>
> > My old Fox 1 evo were 6.5J x 15 with an offset of ET35. The 
> > replacements are 7J x 15 ET32
>
> > Sean
>
> > On Apr 14, 7:16 pm, nigelp  wrote:
> >> Does anyone have a quick answer to the rim width for the standard 
> >> 15 ins alloys as supplied by Q, bought mine approx 5 years ago.  I 
> >> believe they are 6J, but not 100% sure.  Thx
>
> >> Nigel
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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2011 French Tour Proposal

[Chris Fairlie]

Count me in.

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On Behalf Of Pete M
Sent: 29 November 2010 22:28
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2011 French Tour Proposal

Advanced notice - this should be in the next magazine too, but I'm trying to
gauge interest in next years QOC Tour.  As it's the club's 21st birthday at
Newark next year, we thought that it would be good to pop down to Rheims in
northern France and pick up some champagne to celebrate this event.  The
planned event (with distances) is as follows, although this can be changed
if it doesn't appeal:

Saturday 11 June.  All meet in Hythe; distance depends if you live in
Folkestone or Glasgow :-)

Sunday 12 June. Catch the Eurotunnel at about 10am for a 30 mins crossing,
then head down to Rouen area (hopefully including the coast road to
Etretat).  Approx distance 140 miles

Monday 13 June.  Tour in the Rouen area, to include the Pegasus bridge
museum, one of the Normandy beaches and a crossing of the Pont du Normandy.
Distance will depend upon what we plan to do.  Overnight in the Rouen area.

Tuesday 14 June Rouen to Amiens - directly this is less than 80 miles, but
we could head down to Giverny for a bit of culture (Monet's garden), making
the trip about 170 miles.

Wednesday 15 June.  Amiens to Rhiems via the underground city at Naours.
Approx distance 120 miles

Thursday 16 June.  Rhiems area - visit to the old GP circuit at Gueux, tour
of a champagne house in Epernay & collect some birthday champagne.
Overnight in Rheims

Friday 17th June: Rhiems to somewhere near Calais, maybe via Laon (location
of an annual historic hillclimb); approx distance 170 miles.

Saturday 18th June: Back via the tunnel to Folkestone, then (for those who
want) up to Newark for the 21st birthday celebrations.  Folkestone to Newark
is just under 200 miles via the delights of the M20 & M25.

I've come up with an estimated maximum cost of £700 per person for this.
This includes bed and breakfast in Hythe, dinner bed and breakfast in the
hotels in France (staying in Logis de France) plus the tunnel crossing in
both directions.  Costs on top of this would be tolls on the autoroutes,
lunches and drinks with dinner.

We're not looking for deposits yet, but do need an idea of numbers so that I
can get a more accurate costs together, so please let me know by Sunday 12th
December if you would like to go and I can get some prices over Christmas.

Pete

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RE: [Quantum Owners] identify the mistery engine?

[Chris Fairlie]

Darren

Looks very like the Zetec Black Top I had in my 2+2. Especially the twin
treaded rods in front of the timing belt cover (middle picture).

Regards

Chris

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Sent: 05 November 2010 13:13
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] identify the mistery engine?

So saw this on ebay but the info doesn't seem right.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Escort-1-4P-1997-Complete-Engine-/320612833182?pt
=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa603979e


i have checked with the seller , he confirms that it is 1.4 and the gearbox
is automatic.

is this a blacktop or is it one of the alloy yam engines (they did the
1.25 ,1.4 and 1.6 in the fiesta)

anyone shed any light or thoughts on this?

Darren

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Kevin is looking for a new home again

[Chris Fairlie]

Ian

 

No I've spend the money on a Skoda vRS.

 

http://cid-7260cc3f5ee4d7ef.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Car%20Photos/Osca%20an
d%20Perry%20cropped%2060%20x%20468.jpg

 

Someone else will have to cherish him.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ian Harrison
Sent: 24 October 2010 20:04
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Kevin is looking for a new home again

 

Still looking good Chris.

 

Thinking of buying back???

Ian

Sent from my iPad


On 24 Oct 2010, at 11:17, "Chris Fairlie" 
wrote:

Gary Brokenshire spotted this on eBay last night.

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-QUANTUM-XTREME-ORANGE-/260680767190?pt=Automobile
s_UK
<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-QUANTUM-XTREME-ORANGE-/260680767190?pt=Automobil
es_UK&hash=item3cb1c8d6d6> &hash=item3cb1c8d6d6 

 

Anybody fancy a Xtreme with a rather nice stereo? I have no interest apart
from I built it originally.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie 

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[Quantum Owners] Kevin is looking for a new home again

[Chris Fairlie]

Gary Brokenshire spotted this on eBay last night.

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-QUANTUM-XTREME-ORANGE-/260680767190?pt=Automobile
s_UK
<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-QUANTUM-XTREME-ORANGE-/260680767190?pt=Automobil
es_UK&hash=item3cb1c8d6d6> &hash=item3cb1c8d6d6 

 

Anybody fancy a Xtreme with a rather nice stereo? I have no interest apart
from I built it originally.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie 

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem

[Chris Fairlie]

Jim

Thanks for the offer.

The black electronic module on the side has the following codes on it:

93BB-12B579BA
AFH60-02A

There are no markings on the alloy casting apart from a manufacture date
which has a large 3 in the middle, but nothing round the outside is ledge
able.

Regards

Chris

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 13 July 2010 21:21
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem

The MAF is the only other part that has to be matched to the ecu.
Tell me the part number on yours and i'll look it up on Microcat.

Jim


On 13/07/2010 20:37, Chris Fairlie wrote:
> I've tried 99 Octane fuel, but made no difference.
>
> Going back to basics can anyone confirm the part numbers to work with a
2.0l
> DESK Mondeo ECU on a 2.0l Silver Top Zetec, Fiesta Alloy Inlet manifold
and
> Brown Injectors.
>
> MAF
> Throttle Body
> Throttle Position Sensor
> Any other 2.0 Mondeo specific sensors or parts?
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
> -Original Message-
> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
[mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Matthew Wastell
> Sent: 30 June 2010 22:41
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> How about filling up with some Tesco 99 octane?  This is what I originally
> (stupidly) tuned mine to which caused pinking on any other fuel.   Might
be
> worth a go to at least see if it is likely fuel related. I'd say at least
to
> try a new tank of fuel, I've heard anecdotal of pinking on same octane
> different brand fuel.
>
> I've some octane boost lying about I bought for the Ireland trip as there
> was no super available over there, however it didn't seem to help for me.
> if you happen to be passing you are welcome to it. Although I doubt it
will
> prove anything.
>
> Good luck
>
> Matthew
>
> On 30 Jun 2010, at 22:06, "Chris Fairlie"
> wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>> Definitely sounds like Pinking rather than a knock.
>>
>> It happened all last week during the Haggis Hunt II with a mixture of
>> different brands of petrol (Esso, Jet, BP, Murco etc. ) only one tank of
>> Asda fuel.
>>
>> I checked the plug gaps this evening and they were about 2.5mm. I reduced
>> this to the 1.3mm stated in the Haynes manual. Then drove it from cold in
>> cooled air. It still pinks.
>>
>> Any more ideas?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>>  
> [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
>
>> On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
>> Sent: 28 June 2010 09:12
>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem
>>
>> Are you using Tescos petrol ?
>> I've noticed my 2.0 Mondeo pinking the last few weeks.
>> It's now back to a standard engine spec so shouldn't be due to that.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On 27/06/2010 21:56, Chris Fairlie wrote:
>>  
>>> I have a 2 litre silver top with Ford DESK ecu in a 2+2.
>>>
>>> It runs well ms of the time, but whenever I try to accelerate hard it
>>>
>> makes
>>  
>>> a rattling noise like pre ignition.
>>>
>>> Any ideas what might be causing this?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Chris Fairlie
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>>>
>> [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
>>  
>>> On Behalf Of barnacle
>>> Sent: 24 June 2010 18:44
>>> To: Quantum Owners Group
>>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Fuel injection question for Jim Hearn
>>>
>>> Thanks for that Jim. I've ordered the Hadrian injection Mk2 Fiesta
>>> tank, which appears to have the outlet in the same place as yours (I
>>> assume OEM from the lack of filter?).
>>> A filter was definitely on the plan. Should be room for a small one...
>>> good tip on the half-inch bend, thanks!
>>>
>>> So, tank 12mm ->   bend 12mm ->   filter 12mm ->   pump ->8mm ->   fuel
rail.
>>>
>>> Ta!
>>>
>>> On 24 June, 14:15, Jim Hearne   wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The Ford tank has a filter in the tank so you don't need a pre pump
one.
>>>> A pattern one pr

RE: [Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem

[Chris Fairlie]

I've tried 99 Octane fuel, but made no difference.

Going back to basics can anyone confirm the part numbers to work with a 2.0l
DESK Mondeo ECU on a 2.0l Silver Top Zetec, Fiesta Alloy Inlet manifold and
Brown Injectors.

MAF
Throttle Body
Throttle Position Sensor
Any other 2.0 Mondeo specific sensors or parts?

Thanks

Chris

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Matthew Wastell
Sent: 30 June 2010 22:41
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem

Hi Chris,

How about filling up with some Tesco 99 octane?  This is what I originally
(stupidly) tuned mine to which caused pinking on any other fuel.   Might be
worth a go to at least see if it is likely fuel related. I'd say at least to
try a new tank of fuel, I've heard anecdotal of pinking on same octane
different brand fuel. 

I've some octane boost lying about I bought for the Ireland trip as there
was no super available over there, however it didn't seem to help for me.
if you happen to be passing you are welcome to it. Although I doubt it will
prove anything. 

Good luck

Matthew

On 30 Jun 2010, at 22:06, "Chris Fairlie" 
wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions.
> 
> Definitely sounds like Pinking rather than a knock.
> 
> It happened all last week during the Haggis Hunt II with a mixture of
> different brands of petrol (Esso, Jet, BP, Murco etc. ) only one tank of
> Asda fuel.
> 
> I checked the plug gaps this evening and they were about 2.5mm. I reduced
> this to the 1.3mm stated in the Haynes manual. Then drove it from cold in
> cooled air. It still pinks.
> 
> Any more ideas?
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
[mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
> Sent: 28 June 2010 09:12
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem
> 
> Are you using Tescos petrol ?
> I've noticed my 2.0 Mondeo pinking the last few weeks.
> It's now back to a standard engine spec so shouldn't be due to that.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> On 27/06/2010 21:56, Chris Fairlie wrote:
>> I have a 2 litre silver top with Ford DESK ecu in a 2+2.
>> 
>> It runs well ms of the time, but whenever I try to accelerate hard it
> makes
>> a rattling noise like pre ignition.
>> 
>> Any ideas what might be causing this?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Chris Fairlie
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of barnacle
>> Sent: 24 June 2010 18:44
>> To: Quantum Owners Group
>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Fuel injection question for Jim Hearn
>> 
>> Thanks for that Jim. I've ordered the Hadrian injection Mk2 Fiesta
>> tank, which appears to have the outlet in the same place as yours (I
>> assume OEM from the lack of filter?).
>> A filter was definitely on the plan. Should be room for a small one...
>> good tip on the half-inch bend, thanks!
>> 
>> So, tank 12mm ->  bend 12mm ->  filter 12mm ->  pump ->8mm ->  fuel rail.
>> 
>> Ta!
>> 
>> On 24 June, 14:15, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>> 
>>> The Ford tank has a filter in the tank so you don't need a pre pump one.
>>> A pattern one probably doesn't so one would be a very good idea.
>>> But you need a low pressure filter not a high pressure one.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On 24/06/2010 13:04, barnacle wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Jim, on this
>>>> 
>> 
>
photohttp://www.quantums.info/pictures/rst_in_2plus2/Fuel%20pump%20in%20fr..
>> .
>> 
>>>> you show the fuel pump... do you recall the part number, and perhaps
>>>> more critically, the output size of the tank? It *looks* like 8mm, but
>>>> I need to order filter and pump urgently and would hate to then find
>>>> it's 12mm.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I won't be getting the tank till Saturday so I can't measure it!
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Neil
>>>> 
>> 
> 
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Hood Restraining Band

[Chris Fairlie]

I bought 1m of round black elastic from a fabric shop. I cut about 6" off,
threaded it through the p clip and tied a knot in it. works a treat.

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Andy Cowley (Q2-379)
Sent: 29 June 2010 18:25
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Hood Restraining Band

Hi All

One of the rubber bands that is used to hold down the hood on my 2+2
when it's open has snapped. Looking on Quantum Heritage in the spares
section they've got them listed but no longer available.

What do people use now? I was looking on fleabay & a Hoover Senior
Vacuum Cleaner drive belt loks very similar, just unsure of the size
compared to the one fixed on the car.

Andy C

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem

[Chris Fairlie]

Thanks for the suggestions.

Definitely sounds like Pinking rather than a knock.

It happened all last week during the Haggis Hunt II with a mixture of
different brands of petrol (Esso, Jet, BP, Murco etc. ) only one tank of
Asda fuel.

I checked the plug gaps this evening and they were about 2.5mm. I reduced
this to the 1.3mm stated in the Haynes manual. Then drove it from cold in
cooled air. It still pinks.

Any more ideas?

Regards


Chris

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 28 June 2010 09:12
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem

Are you using Tescos petrol ?
I've noticed my 2.0 Mondeo pinking the last few weeks.
It's now back to a standard engine spec so shouldn't be due to that.

Jim


On 27/06/2010 21:56, Chris Fairlie wrote:
> I have a 2 litre silver top with Ford DESK ecu in a 2+2.
>
> It runs well ms of the time, but whenever I try to accelerate hard it
makes
> a rattling noise like pre ignition.
>
> Any ideas what might be causing this?
>
> Regards
>
> Chris Fairlie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
[mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of barnacle
> Sent: 24 June 2010 18:44
> To: Quantum Owners Group
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Fuel injection question for Jim Hearn
>
> Thanks for that Jim. I've ordered the Hadrian injection Mk2 Fiesta
> tank, which appears to have the outlet in the same place as yours (I
> assume OEM from the lack of filter?).
> A filter was definitely on the plan. Should be room for a small one...
> good tip on the half-inch bend, thanks!
>
> So, tank 12mm ->  bend 12mm ->  filter 12mm ->  pump ->8mm ->  fuel rail.
>
> Ta!
>
> On 24 June, 14:15, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
>> The Ford tank has a filter in the tank so you don't need a pre pump one.
>> A pattern one probably doesn't so one would be a very good idea.
>> But you need a low pressure filter not a high pressure one.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On 24/06/2010 13:04, barnacle wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Jim, on this
>>>
>
photohttp://www.quantums.info/pictures/rst_in_2plus2/Fuel%20pump%20in%20fr..
> .
>
>>> you show the fuel pump... do you recall the part number, and perhaps
>>> more critically, the output size of the tank? It *looks* like 8mm, but
>>> I need to order filter and pump urgently and would hate to then find
>>> it's 12mm.
>>>
>>  
>>> I won't be getting the tank till Saturday so I can't measure it!
>>>
>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>  
>>> Neil
>>>
>

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[Quantum Owners] Zetec acceleration problem

[Chris Fairlie]

I have a 2 litre silver top with Ford DESK ecu in a 2+2.

It runs well ms of the time, but whenever I try to accelerate hard it makes
a rattling noise like pre ignition. 

Any ideas what might be causing this?

Regards

Chris Fairlie

-Original Message-
From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of barnacle
Sent: 24 June 2010 18:44
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Fuel injection question for Jim Hearn

Thanks for that Jim. I've ordered the Hadrian injection Mk2 Fiesta
tank, which appears to have the outlet in the same place as yours (I
assume OEM from the lack of filter?).
A filter was definitely on the plan. Should be room for a small one...
good tip on the half-inch bend, thanks!

So, tank 12mm -> bend 12mm -> filter 12mm -> pump ->8mm -> fuel rail.

Ta!

On 24 June, 14:15, Jim Hearne  wrote:
> The Ford tank has a filter in the tank so you don't need a pre pump one.
> A pattern one probably doesn't so one would be a very good idea.
> But you need a low pressure filter not a high pressure one.
>
> Jim
>
> On 24/06/2010 13:04, barnacle wrote:
>
> > Jim, on this
photohttp://www.quantums.info/pictures/rst_in_2plus2/Fuel%20pump%20in%20fr..
.
> > you show the fuel pump... do you recall the part number, and perhaps
> > more critically, the output size of the tank? It *looks* like 8mm, but
> > I need to order filter and pump urgently and would hate to then find
> > it's 12mm.
>
> > I won't be getting the tank till Saturday so I can't measure it!
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Neil

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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2 quantum 2+2 on ebay

[Chris Fairlie]

The Blue one is my old car, I wondered where this had got to. 

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On Behalf Of markymark
Sent: 27 April 2010 13:22
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2 quantum 2+2 on ebay

blue
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1988-QUANTUM-2PLUS-2-FIESTA-BLUE-/150436663150?cmd=Vie
wItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2306b94f6e

white
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1988-QUANTUM-kit-car-white-fiesta-xr2-based-bucket-sea
t-/160425898183?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item255a20f0c7
 just seen them
  mark

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